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Peter King: Reid Already Has Deal For 1st Rounder For Kolb

Sports Illustrated’s Peter King says the Eagles have an offer in place from a team to get a first round draft pick for Kevin Kolb, but Reid is trying to get a better first round pick for the backup quarterback.

That’s some great information to have out for the Eagles, being that they want to move Kolb with the quickness.

On April 6th a U.S. District Court judge will hear arguments on the both sides of the request for an injunction by the NFL Players Association. The players want a judge to step in and stop the lockout by the owners which prevents any trades or any other activities in the league outside of the upcoming draft.

For those of you who don’t know it, King and Reid are good friends. Reid talks to King more openly than just about any other journalists and King always has nice things to say about Reid. I don’t know any more than that about their relationship, but the fact that they have a relationship

Do I believe Reid has number draft pick offer for Kolb? Possibly, but I wouldn’t take it to the bank because King has been wrong on other comments. As for Reid trying to get more than is already being offered, that sounds like they’re trying to get a sucker on the hook.

Remember also that a deal can’t be done, so would a team bluff the Eagles knowing that right now, they couldn’t make a trade any way. How did this story get out? Surely it came from the Eagles side, since they’re the ones with something to gain if it’s true.

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nev856
nev856
March 21, 2011 5:46 pm

if its a 2011 pick , good riddens have a nice career , get pouncey and the cb or lb . if its a 2012 pick i got to be a little reluctant . with the luck of this franchise i would rather have kolb than a 2012 pick.

jott1972
jott1972
March 21, 2011 6:20 pm

my money is on Seattle… they are going to lose Hasselbeck and see that Whitehurst is terrible. They have a playoff team and with the addition of Kolb will be much better.

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2011 7:15 pm

My sources tell me a Deal is on the table with the Seahawks for QB Kolb.
The Eagles would receive their 1st Round Selection in 2011 (#25 overall) and a 4th Round Pick in the 2012 Draft which will be around the #110-#115 overall pick.
The Eagles are hoping for a higher 1st Round pick and by putting it our there and talking up Kolb as if he’s a great QB, that teams like the Cardinals, Dolphins,Titans,Vikings, & 49ers will offer their 1st Round picks which are are much higher than Seattle’s #25 Pick..

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2011 7:35 pm

The Eagles will only trade Kolb if they can get a 2011 Pick
If there is no trading allowed and have to wait until a 2012 Pick, then the Eagles will keep him in 2011 as the back-up to Vick in case of injury.. For Kolb’s minimal salary and the fact that they would receive a “Compensatory 3rd Rd pick for Kolb” from the NFL, if Kolb wre to leave via Free-agency after 2011, then why bother moving him now and have no back-up to VIck who is ready..

schiller
schiller
March 21, 2011 7:56 pm

paulman, everyone knows that ‘your source’ is a combination of ESPN, Profootballtalk and a few other ubiquitous news sources. That makes you sound like a goofy dbag because you are posing as someone with access to more knowledge than others, with only massively public ‘sources’. Stop being a fool and grow up.

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2011 8:24 pm

I have stated the Seahawks as an potential trading party for about a month now.. I don’t need a Peter King or Espn to point why it would be a good move for both teams and for Kolb himself..So stop your crying Schill and add something constructive if you can… All you do is whine and complain about my posts and other posters.. Do something about it and contribute something useful once in a while, You act like a beaten down little kid who runs home and cry’s to mommy… Jeez…

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 21, 2011 8:28 pm

I just said in another related article today that the eagles put this report out there themselves. Its called smokescreens,a lot of posturing around this time of year, I also said that even if the eagles didn’t put this report out there, can we really believe or take seriously what comes out of peter kings mouth? That man says a lot of things and is rarely accurate on any one thing.

The 49ers have some serious qb issues I could see kolb going there but anything can happen, the bills vikings cardinals all need a qb so there are many likely destinations but the one team I doubt he will be playing for this yr is the philadelphia eagles

daggolden
daggolden
March 21, 2011 8:31 pm

Kolb is gone, period. There will be FA on April 7th. Arizona will give the # 5 pick for Kolb is what is being reported. I really think the Eagles are also trying to get another pick also. First off I sign Nnamdi Asomugha as my top priority, Then with my pick @ #5 I hope Patrick Peterson drops to # 5 and he is my #1 pick. He goes to my cover, run support everything 220 pound safety/cb. I make it work. If that happens I then drop down at 23 and pick up multiple draft picks. If Peterson isnt there I may drop down from #5 to the teens and pick up picks. Even if there is no FA untl after the draft theres no damn way Im keeping Kolb and getting a compensatory 3rd round pick. Thats ridiculous. If Vick gets hurt Kolb isnt taking this team anywhere anyway. I would trade him for Arizonas 1 and 3 next year.

runtheball09
runtheball09
March 21, 2011 8:38 pm

paulman you live in your parents basement, who could your sources be?

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2011 8:42 pm

I don’t believe a team like the Cardinals would trade the #5 Overall Pick for Kolb
If so, that would be the trade of the Century…
In the end, I would think the Eagles would rather trade Kolb to an AFC Team
(Bengals,Titans,Dolphins,Bills instead of potentially helping out a Competitor in the NFC that the Eagles may have to face (Vikings,49ers,Seahawks,Cardinals)
down the road, but all teams/Coaches have pressure to win and bottome line is whoever gives the Eagles most in return is where he should be traded to but I find it hard to believe that a Team will give up a Top #10 Overall Draft Pick for
Kolb…

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 21, 2011 8:51 pm

If they can get a #1, then they have to trade him. You can’t have both, and they need the picks to fill holes.

nev856
nev856
March 21, 2011 8:55 pm

paulman wether you live in your parents basement or not i have to agree with your last post. if kolb gets you the#5 pick , someone is going to prison.

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2011 8:56 pm

No one from Russia I can tell you that …RTB
I am 48 years old and have my own comfortable basement thank you very much and moved out of my Parents house back when I was 18 years old in 1982…
I also agree with Eagles Bird Gang abouve about the Eagles posturing and putting the talk out there to help build/maintain Kolbs status and value..
I am not sure anybody noticed or cared about a month ago the Cleveland Browns siging back-up QB S Wallace to a pretty good 3 year deal ..
I only state this since the Cleveland Browns new HC (Shurmur) GM (Heckert) probably know and have worked with Kolb as much as anybody in the NFL and If they felt strongly about Kolb, wouldn’t the Browns be a player, have discussion,etc,etc,.. But since they made their Coaching Changes and decided that McCoy is their QB of the Future and re-signed Wallace around with a 3 year Deal pretty quickly after Shurmur was hired, tells me the Cleveland Browns were not that high on Kolb being a true #1 Starter and are very happy with McCoy/Wallace as their QB’s moving forward..

daggolden
daggolden
March 21, 2011 10:07 pm

Paulman what Im hearing is the cardinals and the # 5 pick. Its simple. The cardinals need a qb and a qb you draft just dont cut it. They arent willing to wait 3 friggin years, Kolb is better than any qb thats coming out in the draft and hes ready to play. Why would ANY team that needs a qb pick a qb in the draft over Kolb? Makes absolutely no sense. How can you possibly justify taking an unproven Cam Newton and HOPING he can play? On another note. Personally I think Kolb sucks but the experts seem to think otherwise. lol

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 21, 2011 10:34 pm

Another thought, if the eagles were to get a top 5 to 10 pick would they be interested in any of these young qbs gab or newton? Just a thought.
I don’t think they would do that since they have vick and will have to pay him much cash but newton and gab both are some good prospects. Id rather them draft corner Patrick P though..

schiller
schiller
March 21, 2011 10:40 pm

ebg – Highly doubtful if you ask me. Especially cam newton, because whether you need a QB or not, drafting Cam Newton is a dumb dumb thing to do. I could be wrong, but he has ‘my ego/posse/head problems will ruin any talent or skills on the field in the NFL’ written ALL OVER HIM in my book. The man (ahem…..) BOY put the cart 500 miles ahead of the horse, and the horse hasn’t even left the stable yet.

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 21, 2011 11:07 pm

Schiller, I agree but wasn’t vick sorta arrogant like that early on in his career? You have a guy who is a king at auburn just won the championship can get away with anything there could say and do whatever her wanted, its difficult to stay humble in a position where everyone tells you your great all the time. But I think if the eagles were to use that pick on a qb like newton, vick would make a good mentor and he’d have a stable organization around him who will help him to see that he hasn’t accomplished anything in the nfl and help him to be humble and grounded. This scenario most likely won’t play out but what if the eagles had pick 5 or 7 and cam newton was there, do you pass on someone that gifted over some comments he made? He doesn’t appear to be ready to start at qb so he’d be a project but in the end will probably be well worth it

Stevo
Stevo
March 22, 2011 3:31 am

Things I think I know:

Birds floated the report.
We will not get a top 5 pick for kk.
Kevin kolb is not a good option as our #2.
Cba or no cba kk is gone draft day… Only real q is… What team and will it be a back door deal till the cba gets done?

schiller
schiller
March 22, 2011 6:29 am

boyztomen EBG – You’re definitely right about the environment at Auburn and the NCAA climate in having a huge effect on Newton – it’s wrong to chastise him completely for his behavior and words. And you are correct about Vick, and you could say the same for Vince Young, and countless college QB top prospects coming out – but they didn’t pan out on the field. How can you possibly make the argument that drafting Vick paid off for the falcons (ok, with the pun you can certainly say it did financially, but…)!? They barely had success on the field with him, then they lost him to a huge legal scandal and prison term. Sorry man, horrible example to argue your point. Sure, many years later he’s panning out for ANOTHER team, but that’s not any value to the team that drafted him.

AND – why are you ignoring the fact that the NFL scouts, once they were looking at Newton through the microscope as a NFL prospect, not a college player, they unanimously said HE SUCKS. The scouts and analysts thought he looked like crap. Crap, plus considerable baggage = why da hell do you want to draft the guy?

greenfan
greenfan
March 22, 2011 7:24 am

I agree with you Stevo…I think the Birds have planted the story with Peter King to try and increase his trade value. I have no problem with it if it helps use get the best deal possible.

I have heard that Arizona has shown the most interest.

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
March 22, 2011 9:12 am

Who are the scouts that says Cam sucks ?….
and why would drafting a QB if you need one is a dumb idea…
Who’s MORE talented than Cam in this draft at QB ?

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 22, 2011 10:32 am

Schiller, it paid off for the falcons short term they made playoff appearances and to the nfc champ game, but I ll say this if the eagles drafted vick his career would have been totally different and I ll tell you why, because of the way this team is ran and the way they function. There a qb factory. If mcnabb didn’t play here than he wouldn’t have been as successful the eagles made him who he was. Now look at him. But the same goes for vince young they would turn him into a better qb.

So if they were to draft cam newton he would have a great foundation around him, stability from top to bottom. And they would have time to turn him into a new qb just adding on to his amazing athletisism. But about your remarks that scouts and analysts said he sucks? Where have you read that? It must of been from your own book you created bc noone said that period. They did say that he has to improve his accuracy and that he is an amazing talent.

But I only raised this scenario bc this can possibly occur if they trade kolb for a top 5-10 pick, if the eagles pick is up and cam newton is still on the board and you need a backup qb or one you can groom to be the starter in a few yrs do you pass on him? Just a thought, not something I think they should do but this scenario is very possible.

hot97x
hot97x
March 22, 2011 10:37 am

paulman: are you aware that you only get compensation picks for NET losses of free agents? so if the eagles lost Kolb next year, but signed a big time free agent they wouldn’t be getting a compensation pick. also, the POTENTIAL compensation pick they get for Kolb will be a pick in the 2013 draft. so you think it would be better for them to keep Kolb this year if they can only get a 2012 1st round pick, and hope they can get a 2013 3rd round pick as compensation? that makes no sense to me. a 2013 3rd is equivalent in value to a 2012 4th. obviously there’s a huge difference in value between a 1st and a 4th round pick in the same draft.

atra1781
March 24, 2011 12:00 am

My sources tell me that there are 3 potential suitors.

Minnesota, Cincinnati, San Fransisco.

In the end i think San Fransisco gets Kolb.

paulman
paulman
March 24, 2011 8:41 am

To atra1781,
Are you stealing my “sources”… ha ha
I think Seattle,Cardinals and the Dolphins will all be suitors too..

paulman
paulman
March 24, 2011 8:47 am

To hot97x
I am aware that Compensatory picks are based on overal team’s loss of Free-agents bs gaining free-agents.., I was not aware that it wouldn’t be until 2013
in Kolb’s case.. Good work..

schiller
schiller
March 24, 2011 9:37 am

EBG – You point that Vick paid off for the falcons to some extent in the short term is valid, however irrlevant to the Eagles. Yeah, it got the falcons into the playoffs for the first time in a while – that’s not a problem the Eagles have – not remotely, at all, for the past 11 years. So you’re saying it could pay off for us, in the short term, to an insignificant extent…. doesn’t sound great to me.

And your scenario would also have to take into account that even if they were looking for a young QB prospect to groom/be a backup for a while – which is reasonable, as G pointed out elsewhere – that they’d value that role (future QB prospect/backup) OVER other needs for their highest pick. That’s where I doubt it. They’d have to value a QB behind Vick and Kafka over a CB, LB, OL, S, DE, DT…… highly doubtful.

paulman
paulman
March 24, 2011 10:04 am

Good points Schill,
If Eagle do trade Kolb, then they will need to replace him and probably would go with a Veteran QB for 2011 since they already have the young Kafka learning and they probably wouldn’t want to risk the 2011 Season if Vick were to get hurt and only have 2 Young/Inexperienced QB to be back up. I could see a Troy Smith, signing a 1-2 year deal for insurance in case of emergency.. Isn’t Tom Flynn up at Green Bay a Free-agent this year.. There may be some interest in him and being back-up to Aaron Rodgers, it’s not like he will see too much playing time..

schiller
schiller
March 24, 2011 10:34 am

paul, yeah, who knows about Flynn though, the packers would want to keep him if he’s a viable backup right? But yeah, I agree that they’re more likely to go vet for Vick backup (or 3rd behind Kafka depending on their opinion of his development) if Kolb is traded.

(don’t look now, we’re having a very rational civilized conversation)

phillywill
phillywill
March 24, 2011 12:35 pm

lmao I could be wrong, but he has ‘my ego/posse/head problems will ruin any talent or skills
posse wtf
ridiculous comment
mike jordan had a posse
muhamad ali
mike tyson
the only difference when its a dude u like such as jordan or ali its there friends
when its some1 u might not like tyson its a posses
who cares ridiculous comment posse lmao

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 24, 2011 12:54 pm

schiller, so I answered your question to how did them drafting vick pay off for the falcons, 1st financially, then 2nd playoff appearances nfc champ game so short term it did pay off. I’m not saying the eagles have or had that problem I’m saying they could draft a vick like qb that’s a winner and have him sit for 3yrs and learn the offense, cam isn’t ready to start so he could sit and learn. Again I don’t think this scenario will even play out but if andy sees a qb like newton still on the board when its the birds time to pick idk, esp if they have 2 first rounders, me personally I wouldn’t draft a qb in the 1st round at all bc we have more needs like you mentioned.

But think about this they may not be sold on kafka they may actually get rid of him and draft a qb. Why not someone vick like in newton? We see that there already checking out 2 fast qbs, why not draft a winning qb and sign a vet qb? Who would you have as your 2nd or 3rd qb kafka or newton? Right now I would say newton coming out of college right now but Again I’m raising this as a possible scenario. Andy has done stranger things come drafttime

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 24, 2011 1:11 pm

Schiller, and I was making the point that we run a different organization then what the falcons have. They had No stucture,stability, or solid foundation. So any qb that gets drafted by the eagles will be taken care of. They’d learn the game and they’d learn how to conduct themselves off the field too.

schiller
schiller
March 24, 2011 2:05 pm

EGB, ok man. Whatever…