• August 17, 2022

Bringing Back Spagnuolo Won’t Solve The Main Problem With The Eagles

There is an axim is sports that”defense wins championships” which has been embraced by Eagles fans after their tumultuous 2011 season. With the speed of a cornerback blitz, speculation for defensive coordinator Juan Castillo’s job began as soon as the season concluded. Compounded with the firing of Steve Spagnuolo as coach of the Rams, rumors began of a Spagnuolo-Eagles reunion with Spagnuolo taking over as defensive coordinator.

Being the architect of the defense that stopped the undefeated Patriots in 2007, this change would be the dream many hope would fix the biggest perceived flaw from the Eagles nightmare season. However, is this change necessarily needed?

Critics of Castillo point to the unprecedented five 4th quarter collapses in the Eagles 8-8 season. Prevent one of those and the Eagles would have won the division and made the playoffs where anything can happen. While the defense did relinquish five 4th quarter leads, there was also another thing missing in those games that no one mentioned – 4th quarter offensive points.

The Eagles lost five games by seven points or less. In four of those games, the Eagles scored a total of 3 points in the 4th quarter. In six of their 8 losses, the Eagles scored a total of 13 4th quarter points while committing a total of 14 turnovers. Furthermore, Michael Vick was responsible for 10 of those turnovers. The hiring of Steve Spagnuolo cannot fix that.  Juan Castillo was not the main problem of the 2011 Eagles.

Turnovers, specifically those from the quarterback position, were the reason the Eagles did not make the playoffs. All of this talk regarding Spagnuolo replacing Castillo should be pure hogwash. Castillo’s defense ranked 8th in the NFL (2nd in the NFC). They allowed the 10th fewest points in the league and only San Francisco and Seattle allowed fewer in the NFC.

Castillo’s defense also led the league in sacks. Among the NFC playoff teams, only San Francisco had a higher ranked defense than the Eagles. If it was not known that Castillo was the offensive line coach the previous year, there would be minimal criticism of Castillo. In contrast, the Eagles were ranked 31st in the league in giveaways with an astonishing 40% more giveaways than the closest NFC playoff team- the N.Y. Giants.

The same Giants who squeaked by the Eagles for the NFC East crown. The same Giants playing in the NFC Championship game.  While no one will ever confuse the 2011 Eagles defense with that of the historical 1991 Eagles Gang Green defense, it wasn’t the main reason the Eagles did not make the playoffs.

Of the twelve teams that made the postseason, the Eagles defense gave up fewer points than seven of them, ranked higher than seven of them and had more sacks than all of them.  In contrast, only Cincinatti’s Andy Dalton at 80.4 (a rookie) and Baltimore’s Joe Flacco at 80.9 had lower qb ratings than Vick’s 84.9 (excluding Houston’s Yates who was a 3rd stringer forced to play because of injuries). Out of all the playoff quarterbacks, none had a higher ratio of turnovers per start than Vick (1.38 turnovers per start).

However, next year the Eagles need to do a better job defensively in creating turnovers. The Eagles defense ranked 17th in the league in interceptions and a putrid 29th in forced fumbles. And as bad as the defense was, the offense was even worse in the turnover department for an overall ranking of 31st in giveaways/takeaways.

Replacing Castillo with Spagnuolo, or anyone for that matter, will accomplish nothing if there are as many turnovers next season. To improve next year, the focus should be on a cutdown of turnovers. With the record breaking offenses this year, the Eagles have a good enough defense to compete for a championship.

Of the four teams remaining in the playoffs, the Eagles defense was ranked better than two of them (Giants and Patriots).Certainly improved play from the linebackers and safeties would make it easier but the main objective this offseason should be turnovers. Because while “defense wins championships”, sometimes the best defense is a good offense – with minimal turnovers.

Chris Tremoglie

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  • Amen.

  • All that offensive explosion this season didnt mean anything in the playoffs, which goes to show, in the playoffs, DEFENSE still wins ballgames! I dont care where we were ranked this year, not being able to cause turnovers were our doom this year, without having studs at safety who know how to hit and strip the ball will only make us average next year, if people keep talking about Allen n Colemen being improved players and should be even better next year doesnt have a clue, they are backups at best, after watching these games the past two weeks i believe it should now be safety first, LB second as far as needs for the Eagles.

  • GM-in-Training- Paulman’s Mock Draft (#159)

    1st Rd PIck (#15)- Safety Mark Barron (Alabama) 6-2 220lbs Runs a 4.55
    2nd Rd Pick (#45) – MLB Vontae Burfict (Arizon St) 6-3 250 lbs Runs a 4.67
    2nd Rd Pick (#47) – OLB Ronnell Lewis (Oklahoma) 6-2 245lbs Runs 4.63
    3rd Rd Pick (#79th) – WR Dwight Jones (UNC) 6-4 225lbs Runs a 4.53
    4th Rd Pick (#101) – DE Alex Okafor (Texas) 6-4 260lbs Runs a 4.62
    4th Rd Pick (#111) – OT Tony Bergstrom (Utah) 6-5 310lbs
    5th Rd Pick (#143) – DT Derek Wolfe (Cincinnati) 6-5 305 lbs, Runs 5.1

    Use the 3 Selections in the 6th Round for depth at RB,FB,TE,C/G

  • Paulman, I like your picks for the Eagles but I’m willing to bet a lot that Vontaze will not be there at #45.

  • Your are probably right BTC,,
    I have seen him (Burfict) Rated anywhere from the 20th Selection all the way to the 40th Selection..but he did not have a very good Senior Season and had some real issues/questions with his Coaches and Teammates are far as maturity and coachability issues which has caused him to drop

    Not to change the Subject
    Does anyone know if the Indy Combines allow “Junior Players” who have filed for the Draft to participate in the Drills/Evaluations or is it simply for Seniors…
    I am pretty sure the Senior Bowl Week dowin in Mobile, Alabama at the end of January is only for Senior Players but not sure about the Indy Combines..
    1st – Safety Mark Barron
    2nd –

  • Paulman, I wouldnt have a problem with those first two picks at all, btc24, remember, we have extra picks in the second round, we can always make a trade to move up to get him, whatever it takes, but you have to get that LB also.

  • “Castillo’s defense also led the league in sacks. Among the NFC playoff teams, only San Francisco had a higher ranked defense than the Eagles. If it was not known that Castillo was the offensive line coach the previous year, there would be minimal criticism of Castillo. ”

    You have to be joking.

    Washburn would get more credit than Juan for the Sack total.

    Juan moved a successful middle linebacker and replaced him with a complete bum. Then everyone acted like they could not see what every Eagle fan saw…A bum at Middle Linebacker.

    Juan was lost for most of the season.

    Juan missused our prize free agent pick-up at cornerback.

    The run defense was a complete joke.

    Yes…Juan would have been critisized for being a bum, whether he was a offensive line coach or not.

    Having “Bozo the Clown” for a defensive coordinator affected the offense.

    Marty Morningweg and Jim Washburn fight on the sidelines.

    You don’t think that the offensive players had similar emotions of anger and no confidence in this complete bum.

    Spags or any real NFL qualified defensive coordinator would bring confidence and swagger to the defense. Instead the defense was lost and clueless.

    Steamrolled by the Seahawks, and complete outclassed by the Patriots.

    “there would be minimal criticism of Castillo. ”

    Minimal criticism in Philadelphia of a sports bum…

    Yes that’s a reality we all believe.

  • The first line of business is to see what the Eagles do with Desean. I think that will have a big impact on what the Eagles then do in free agency and the draft. While we all talk about the defense, our offense left a lot to be desired in various games throughout the season and a big time WR to go along with Maclin shouldn’t be out of the question. I mean, just look at the Patriots, Saints, Giants, and Packers. All had extremely potent offenses yet their defenses were ranked at the very bottom of the league. Just goes to show that a defense doesn’t necessarily win championships anymore.

  • Andrew….

    7 of the 8 playoff games have gone “over” the total this year. Winning scores this week were:

    45-10
    36-32
    37-20
    20-13

    One “defensive” game. Each other winner scored over 32.

    Last week:
    31-10
    45-28
    29-23
    24 -3

    So…..of the 8 winners. 6 scored 29pts or more. There have been perhaps, 2 “defensive” victories so far…..NYG vs ATL and Balt vs Houston (and they playing a 3rd QB).

    You must score 30 to be successful in today’s NFL. The bird’s scored under 24 pts a whopping 10 times this year and were 3-7 in those games.

    Even worse…Ealles scored 20 or less in 7 games!! and were 2-5 in those.

    Was it “defense” that had GB drop the ball 700x? Did the D cause the Saints to muff 2 punts inside their 20?

  • Bsm Videos

    “steamrolled by the Seahawks” Was 31-14.
    The game whereYoung threw 4 ints in what was one of the worst QBing displays in the history of the NFL.
    Where INT 1 was at the 40 and led to a seahawks td
    Where int 2 was at the 30 and led to a TD
    where pick 3 was a pick 6

    Where the Eagles’ 1st half posessions went: Int, 3-out, 3-out, 4-out, Touchdown!, 3-out, 4-out, 3-out.
    Is that the game that you balme on our terrible defense???

    Or the NE game: Where after taking a 10 point lead the Birds went: 3-out, INT, 3-out, fg, 3-out. You going to blame the D? For what? Giving up 38 to New England? Newsflash…they scored over 30 in 12 games this year, They only had 3 games with less than 20 pts (and we’re a predictable 1-2 in those games). The Birds had 7 games less than 20 pts.

    There’s your season. Our O did not score pts.

    Did you know our D held 10 teams under 21pts this year (8-2) ? Not too shabby. Especially for a team with an entirely new coaching staff and 8 new starters on D.

    Lets look at some of these other “defensive” teams (I’m assuming you’re talking about the ones left in the playoffs) and see how many times they held opponents under 21pts:
    NYG: 9x
    SF: 12x
    Balt: 11x

    So the eagles pretty much in line with those teams….how about the Pats (as they’re still alive)
    NE: 8x (though there were 4 20 and 21s in there)

    This team has problems on offence…most specifically at the quarterback position.

    I am not saying that I would object to an LB or safety being drafted in the first round….but the #1 issue on a team that scored less than 20 7x this season is on offence.

  • Vinnie, those strips by the backers had everything to do with the outcomes, u cant overlook that, as for our stats? people want to bring up how we were 8th in the league in overall D but we were 29th in force fumbles, that explains why we couldnt keep alot of those leads this year, we need ballhawks in the D backfield.

  • I feel better now….AR is back from his vacation.

  • Pman anyone meeting the NFL and NCAA requirements are eligible. A.J. Green participated last year as a Junior.

    I like your picks, but I’d like to see the Eagles bring in a solid vet to man the middle (I’m looking at you Dave Hawthorne) and let Burfict fight with Chaney for the SAM (although I think he’d excel at the WILL). I’m not convinced Burfict has the head for the MIKE and needs to improve his ability to get off blocks.

    Hawthorne, Burfict and Barron would immediately sure up the back 7

  • 3-4 Major Decisions the Eagles really need to address before a Complete Draft Strategy can be implemented…

    #1) Decide if Eagles want WR D-Jax or not, even by franchising him or let him walk…
    #2) Decide if Eagles will resign LG Evan Mathis to keep OL Continuity
    #3) Decide fate on CB Samuel , maybe trade with one of those 2nd Round Picks to move up to a 1st Rounder (Cleveland & Cincinnati each have 2 1st Round Selections) or do they end up releasing him to get nothing in return

    Other trade pieces for the Eagles to use
    — RT W Justice is under contract and could probably return a 4th/5th Round PIck as OT with starting experience are always in demand
    — DE D Tapp who is due a $3.8 Million Salary in 2012 which is very high for a rotational player.. If Graham is good to go and with the emergence of DE P Hunt, Tapp may be expendable to trade for 4th/5th Round Selection or again, used with one of their 4th Round Selections to move up in the Draft..

  • I’m was trying to tell you guys you need linebackers and safeties that play with reckless abandonment thats why I wanted Donta Hightower as the Eagles linebacker you guys worried about coverage skills when guys are scared to come across the middle because you hit with intentions it matters just look at San Fran and Baltimore teams. I don’t want London Fletcher I want a guy who’s good and put fear into ball carriers.

  • This is not really accurate since some bush-league elements of the organization have been put in the spotlight and are being force checked. I tend to believe that if Spagnuolo becomes the DC it will solve a couple more critical problems. DeSean Jackson clearly and justifiably played out of character for the vast majority of the season, impending free agency is around the corner. With Washburn lashing out at Morningweg and subsequently seeing the Eagles run the ball more I firmly believe Morningweg fears another fiery sideline outburst from Washburn roaming in his direction and that’s a good thing. Spagnuolo, after being a HC, is going to demand to have some significant say in the personnel, so that should help transistion the LB situation into a better one. Hopefully, he sees having Washburn as a potential ally and the “Wide 9” as a new and powerful element in his defensive bag of tricks as very beneficial. My only concern is that rumors out of St. Louis seemed to be that he was a possessive, micromanaging ego maniac. Hopefully, that’s just an apparition.

  • Paulman, although that draft would make me happy, they ain’t drafting a safety #1, & neither Burfict, nor Lewis will still be there, at 45-47. They’re both ranked top 20, in mostly all mocks.

  • Dcar,
    I use a lot of my rankings from NFCDraftScouts.Com whi I find to be a very reliable source of informations, trankings, player strengths and weaknesses, etc,etc…
    Most have Burfict as the 3rd MLB in the Draft behind Kuechley and Hightower and I see no way 3 MLB will be selected in the 1st Round of a Draft.. Burfict will most likely fall to the early 2nd Round and the Eagles will have a very good shot at getting him when you look at the teams ahead of them who have good MLB already and have other other needs to address (I could see the Vikings,Buffalo,or maybe Jacksonville as potential teams with needs at MLB enough to use their 2nd Rounder on him)

    The Rankings on OLB Lewis have been consistently in the #40-#55 Range so I am not sure where you have seen him on the Top 20.. Lewis is Ranked d as the 5th Top OLB behind Ingram,Upshaw,Zach Brown who will all be 1st Rounders) and then D Lavonte Bobby Wagner and Lewis all in the 2nd ROund… What Ranking source are you using…

  • Defense still does and will always win championships…when you don’t have a Brees, Manning, Brady, Rodgers throwing the ball for your team. The best fallacy is when people try to shut this down by just looking at the past decade of SB winners. Again, think for a second and realize we don’t have any of those Qbs so we will need exceptional defensive players and coaches on that side of the ball to win it. Vick is not throwing for 400 plus yards like Brees will do…or throw 5 tds in a first half like Brady. Defense will have to win championships if your an EAgles fan

  • fools gold!!!!!! by the way……I’m selling the delaware river at a serious discounted price.

  • BTW, its ridiculous in how these TEs are playing right now. They make their Qbs so much better its a joke. Jimmy Graham basically gets half of Brees yards by himself. Same with Gronk from the Pats. They make those QBs look ridiculous…Just look at that last TD from the Saints…Brees just threw that ball up there in double coverage and Graham did it all for him…Same thing happens for Brady and so on…

    Don’t get me wrong, Im a huge brent Celek fan (prolly my fav eagles right now) but imagine having that elite TE on the other side of him. I think it would do wonders for Vick. Does anybody think any potential TE’s in the draft could be that good? I havn’t really been paying attention the the TE position in the NCAA this year? Paulman you know any? I think I’ve actually seen the eagles tied to the guy from Clemson (i think) in the 2nd round in some mock drafts

  • There was a recent discussion on TV among players about the myth of defense winning championships… that it was just that, a myth. They said it takes entire team rising to the occasion, limiting mistakes and taking advantage of other team’s errors. That’s what the Giants did to the Pack, with Eli, WR’s and backs playing on offense at a high level, not just the D. Even the Ravens championship years ago took an average QB in Dilfer to rise to the occasion and manage the offense with no turnovers. Even the Steelers with the young Rothisberger proved plenty of great offense to finally win for Cowher, Brad Johnson and offense beating the Eagles and eventually winning it all. I have never seen any team win a SB with bad plays on offense and the defense actually winning the game. There may have been offenses with fewer skilled players, but they still played skillfully and up to their potential.
    This one of problems with Reid-coached teams: no balance on both sides of ball through intelligent drafting and FA signings. Bringing in a bunch of FA’s proves exactly that the FO has not drafted well over the years. I agree that hiring Spags does not guarantee anything for this team; the offense turned ball over too much and the LB and DB situations were awful.

  • Pheags, I gave a list of Top TE’s on one of these postings the other day..
    There are some good ones coming out ..

  • Can we please give up on this notion that the eagles will draft a safety in the first rd of the draft,they just use 2 senond rd picks in back2back years on safety’s so,and also they will not draft a lb in the first rd either for they will be in the same spot as last year with having young guys outhere on the field and may not know what they are doing.So with that said the eagles will either draft a 1.de,2.rt,3.dt in rd1 they may take a shot with a lb in the 2nd rd since they will have 3 second rd picks after the asante deal goes thru but not in the first it will be a vet like fletcher,or curtis lofton that they may sign or somebody via trade.AND THE safety spot unless they have no hope at all for jarrett,and i dont see that being the case after one year no ota’s or mini camps and no real training camp the eagles dont give up on early picks that soon see abiamiri,mcdouggle,frd-ex,stankston,bunkley,reggie brown,shawn andrews,lito,ect…..you get the point the eagles brass gives players at least four years to show them something sorry brandon graham man the eagles drafts have sucked do you right now our de’s could be cole,tuck,jpp but instead its cole,graham,abiamiri we took graham over jpp,and victor over tuck great job guys hell for that this year since we have no luck in the draft outside of late rd picks i would take 1st rd pick and babin and trade it to houston for mario williams

  • Paulman, the two mock drafts on NFLdraftscout.com don’t even have Hightower going in the first round.

  • This team broke the bank to create an elite defense, one that would flourish when we had the lead.

    Now, suddenly, the defense was not at fault because the offense didn’t build a big enough lead, or they built it too early, or they didn’t regain the lead? The philosophy was to throw “fastballs” once we got the lead, which lead to turnovers.

    We finished 8-8, missed the playoffs and blew 5 4th quarter leads!!!!

    The Kool-Aid always tastes better a few weeks after the season has ended. That’s when memories begin to fade.

    Personally, every time I watch a playoff game, I’m pissed. Lurie, FINALLY, opened his check book. The front office ID’d and addressed the primary area of concern. How is it, now, that the defined area was not really the area of concern?

    Give me a break.

  • Butch…..Jackson, “clearly and justifiably played out of character for the vast majority of the season”

    Justifiably…of course…. ‘Cause he was disrescected by the FO right? Didn’t get him his dollaz!!

    And they signed Steve Smith for more $$ than him….an INSULT!!!!!

    So he justfiably played like shit. Totally Justifiably. He is the only guy in the NFL to be treated this way!! Injustice from a notoriously cheap front office. (you might as well as “damn jews” to the cheap comment)

    I mean all he did was act exactly llike Lesean McCoy did when they brought in Ronnie Brown at twice his salary.

    Or just like Adrian Foster did making league min despite leading the league in rushing last year.

    Or Ray Rice at 500K despite 2 years as a top 5 back in the league…

    or Forte…

    or Gronkowski (10 tds last year +17 this year – getting league minumum – he scores more tds in a game than Desean did this year),

    Or Mike WIlliams who is better than Desean and gets paid less.

    They all bitched and complained when other guys came in or signed for more than them
    They all alligator armed half their catches….
    They all started signaling fair catch the moment the kicker made contact like a certain #10 did this year (honestly, at any point did you feel Jackson was making any attp at returning punts. Oh, another fair catch – that’s a suprise)
    They all missed meetings….

    If I hear one more, Jackson was “disrespected” business I’m gonna lose it. You know who feels disrespected? Just about every player in the league! Every time a new contract gets signed for more $$, which is just about every 2 days in the NFL. Jackson didn’t get the $$ he thought he “deserved” and instead of going out, ratcheting it up, putting on a show and making himself both a gazillion dollars in contract and endorsement $$, to go with the support and loyalty of a rabid fan base, he pouted and whined and sulked and bsically showed his true colours as the baby-la-la that he is.

    Too bad for him I guess. I hope he enjoys the Raiders.

  • Oh, Vinnie go root for Kolb! lol

  • Raiders have plenty of young promising speedy WR’s already under contract and don’t need D-Jax since they Jacoby Ford, Heyward-Bey and Louis Murhpy..
    D-Jax will sign a deal for the 49ers who have no real deep threat and he will give them a home town discount but still get a bigger Deal than he will from Eagels… 49ers already released WR Braylon Edwards and have Wr’s Josh Morgan and Ted Ginn Jr as Free-agents after this Season and still have the underachiening Michael Crabtree under contract for 1 more Season

  • Gloomsmitty….I tend to agree….I have a feeling the Birds will go DL with the first pick too. I would not be suprised with OT at all.

    Drummer…you’re half right. The Eagles problem in 2009 was defense. And the FO went out and did an overhaul to fix it. Clearly it was going to take a half a season for 8 new players and a new coaching staff to figure things out. They were playing well the final half of the season….they showed some promise for next year…….the defense imporved over the course of the year, and improved from the year before…..

    The offence, however, was worse than the year before. They regressed. Points down. Turnovers up. Of course that this was going to happen was predicted well in advance by a certain someone – (though I won’t sing my own praises here) who figured it was pretty damn obvious that the first half of 2009 was an offensive mirage.

    The team scored 20 or less 7x last year. Putrid. 24 or less 10x.

    We scored 28 pts 5x this year (and were a predictable 4-1 in those games)

    Take a look at the remaining playoff teams and notice how many 28 pt games they’ve had…
    NE 13
    Balt 6
    NYG 9
    SF 4

    Offence and D work together…I’ll give you that….but over the course of the year the D continued to improve and the O wasn’t any good. I see promise on D. I think with the addition of a new LB, expected improved play from the ridiculously young safties, NNamdi with a year…a pretty ferocious pass rush, with perhaps the addition of a new pass rusher in the draft….promise….

    Now on O. I think there is promise in a young and imporving oline that will get even better, a stud young wr. Solid, pass catching options in Maclin and Celek…….and what area needs the most improvement. Well there’s the rub isn’t it. An about to be 32 yr old veteran QB, who survives on his legs and just isn’t a good QB. Do you see hope there?

  • meant stud young rb

  • Once again, Reid’s team beat up a few cupcakes, especially after its season had already ended. Stats tell lies. What happened to the statistically monster offenses of the Packers and Saints? How about the undefeated Pats against the Giants?

    Whoever claims that defense doesn’t win championships is dead wrong.

    Obviously, any one phase of a team can lose a game for you. So, yes, it takes an effort by everyone. However, a dominating D can make everyone else’s job so much easier.

    There’s a huge difference between managing a game (not making mistakes) and winning a game (making game-changing plays), especially against a playoff-caliber opponent.

    All of these passing records mean nothing. In fact, I believe, these passing teams are causing their defenses to suffer. The defenses are getting no rest. Like Buddy used to say, a defense’s best friend is a running game. That’s why he punched Kevin Gilbride in the mouth.

    Yesterday, during the 2nd half, the Packers sent the Giants into two consecutive 3 and outs. I was blogging with a few buddies at the time. I told them that if the offense didn’t mount at least a 5-6 minute drive, they’d lose the game.

    Sure enough, the Giants’ offense did mount a drive, although they failed to score. Although the momentum had shifted in GB’s favor, I told my buddies not to worry, because the defense was well rested. Two plays later they picked off Rodgers, and the rest, as they say, is history.

    This is a game of balance. While the powers that be want an exciting passing game, the defenses have begun to catch up. Everyone has “fastballs” at linebacker and DE.

    The name of the game, now, is “ball control.” Ice the other team and give your “fastballs” some rest. The opposing QB can’t win from the bench and a well-rested, top notch defense almost has an advantage over the offense, because when you pass the ball, only 3 things can happen and two of them are bad.

  • I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, Eagles should draft Russel Wilson from Wisconsin. I really think this kid can play.

  • You guys can guess all you want as far as who we will pick, but we all know that Reid and the FO will pull a rabbit out his ARSE and trade our 1st round pick for a 2nd and 3rd round 2013 pick. you guys are to drunk off of the green koolaid…come on and get with the program after 13 years of this crap. Then, our 1st pick will be a 2nd round Casey Matthews type of Lb who is already coming off an injury in college who gets hurt in training camp and sucked prior to that anyway. Trust me boys! After a recovering addict coming out of this drug called “green kool-aid” for 13 years, nothings gonna change until the supplier (Reid) is ran off this block.

    Now that I can see clearly now the rain is gone, i can only tell you guys from experience. Trust me; you’re waisting your time trying to guess on which drug you’re going to try to get high off of next year. Just go ahead and get in recovery like I have so that you can see clearly and get a new lease on life as an Eagles fan. The sooner you get admitted, the better you will become! Trust me on this guys; good luck!

  • Fair point Rocko; however, keep in mind that Reid knows this may in fact be his last year so he knows he better get it done and once again “go all in.” Reid doesn’t have time to try and develop players or play the salary cap game anymore. I would have to assume this could change his approach to the draft.

  • Vinnie

    You’re half wrong. lol

    They improved, but to what degree? What powerhouse did this “improving” defense beat?

  • Just another typical Reid cream-puff-beating team. Those regular-season Superbowls flavor the Kool-Aid, and that’s it.

  • 26-44 against playoff bound teams during the reg. season and much, much worse against AFC teams. This record was built with Jim Johnson at the defensive helm.

    Reid is a sure-fire mediocre-team-beating coach.

  • So, drummerwinslow–this is what I say to everyone that brings up that stat against Reid–do you think coaches like Walsh, Gibbs, and Parcells built their resumes around beating powerhouses? Nope, they did not. Same with Belicheck–how many teams with winning records did Belicheck beat this year? Try ZERO–the only teams with winning records they played, they lost to–at Pittsburgh and at home to New York. And as far as having Jim Hohnson at the defensive helm, I can’t understand why the guy is revered so much–yeah, he helped them win a bunch of games in the regular season–but when it came to the playoffs–specifically the four NFCCGs and the SB the Eagles lost–he got outcoached. But no one wants to admit that.

    And G Cobb–got a 2question for you–I’ve been readong on another board that Micah Warren has been saying the Eagles won’t bring back Spagnoulo because he’s got issues with Joe Banner. If that’s true, I’d like to see him put it in print here.

  • Of course the name of the game is “ball control”. And our O, led by the turnover machine, is exactly the opposite of “ball control”.

    Unless by ball control you me controlling how many times the other team gets a freebie. We excelled at that this year.

    I was suprised by how the GB O fell apart yestterday – though I think its a complete misnomer to say they were shut down by the NYG D. I think most of GBs offensive troubles were self inflicted.

    I, in no way, am saying the D isn’t important. I think that both GB and NO were hampered by themselves having historically terrible defenses. I think this might not bode well for NE, though Flacco is mediocre at best, so they should be able to handle the Balt O.

    But the Birds are not historically bad on D anymore. And there is a lot of promise and hope on D. Plenty of young promise.

    And perhaps that’s what I’m getting at. Honestly, are you at all excited about the QB position on the birds? Do you have faith Vick is going to magically revert to 1st half 2009? I don’t.

    I think the fanbases in Det, Car, Cinci, Denv (though misguided) – they right now have hope. Hope that their QBs will continue to improve. Grow. Get them to the level they need to win a SB.

    Do you think they’re worried about their safeties? Do you really think the reason SF is continuing thru the playoffs is because of their defense??

    Its because their QB gave the ball to the other team only 5x this year.

    Do you feel that with the Birds? You still holding out hope that a 32 year old guy is going to raise himself up to a level of above-average consistency?

    I don’t.

    Do you know that Vick was 6th in the league in % of passing attempts that were picked off? Behind only Carson Palmer, Christian Ponder (note – never draft a QB with initials CP) John Skelton……Sexy Rexy and of course the incomperable Vince Young!!!!!!

    That’s pathetic company. Not “bad” company. Pathetic company. A rookie, a second year bench warmer, and 3 washed up never-wases.

    100 million dollar superstar my ass.

  • Drummer…as I poted earlier…..most of the teams in the playoffs have losingrecords against other playoff teams.

    I think the only 2 that had winning records against above .500 teams (GB and NO) both lost.

    Most every team in the league has a winning losing record against “winning” teams. YOu’re going to find that same stat with just about every single coach in the league.

  • Former Saints D/C Gregg Williams takes the DC postion with the Rams to rejoin freind and HC Jeff Fisher, Saints also offer FIred Brian Shottenheimer the OC Position with the Rams..
    Don’t want to be the bearer of bad news, but Spags will be the next DC of the NO Saints, expect an announcement come Thursday/Friday or so..
    I will repeat for the umpteenth time, that Spags has very little interest in coming back to Philly and especially at this stage with this dysfunctionble Organization that the Eagles have become.. As far as Spags having issues with Banner, I have no idea, but word is, that Spags has no interest in coaching with DL Washburn and his Wide-9 Scheme..

  • Correction,, Shoud be the Rams offered former OC Brian Shottenheimer, from the Jets, to be the new OC of the Rams

  • Spags will only make an impact with better talent…

    Round #1 – S Mark Barron, Alabama
    Round #2 (from Cardinals) – CB Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina
    Round #2 – LB Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State

    3 players who could start as rookies and make an impact…

  • @Paulman – DJax is the missing piece to the 49ers offense…. add him to Gore, Crabtree and Davis…

  • Paulman your right about Spaggs he’s not coming here but I don’t understand this organization the season has been over two weeks ago and the elephant in the room hasn’t said a word and like last season all the coordinators are being snatched up leaving us with the scraps just terrible.

  • I agree jott1972 and like your Draft picks
    CB Gilmore could be an All-Pro CB in 2 ytears time and may be the most complete CB in this Draft in my opinion…
    I am not sold yet on DCR who will be entering his final year of his Contract in 2012.. If he has a big time year and makes the Pro-Bowl, he will demand crazy $$$ and maybe leave Via Free-Agency next Off-Season

    There is little doubt in my mind that D-JAx ends up with the 49ers, it’s a perfect match for him and for them.. He basically replaces Ted Ginn Jr and provides with a deep threat that they don’t have on their Roster..

  • The main problem is Andy, no playoff win in 3 years and counting!!!! He did not run mcCoy in Pats game this yr(11 rushes), 11 rushes in 2011 playoff game, 6 rushes in 2010 Cowboy playoff game……oh well atleast Pats rushed 30 times and Giants know what balance is 27 rushes(34 passes)

  • Vinnie

    What are those records? I’m reading a lot, but I see NO stats. Don’t make it up as you go.

  • BULL!

    In comparison, Bill Belichick is 40-17 against playoff teams since 2003.

  • Vinnie the “Inventor” is at it again.

  • In comparison, Bill Belichick is 40-17 against playoff teams since 2003. Not every coach can have a losing record against playoff teams. It’s mathematically impossible. Someone has to account for all those wins and the good coaches are winning against playoff teams.

  • Tomlin is 10-12.

  • Sean Payton – 13-12 vs. playoff teams. 36-19 vs. Non-playoff teams.

  • I think Coach AR has reached out for Mike Sherman to become OC for the Eagles for I think Coach Marty M will be leaving to pursue a HC position.. Defensively, I don’t think anything is going to change except the hiring of a Secondary Coach, Maybe a Kevin Ross from the Raiders to reunite him with
    CB Asmo. I expect the Raiders to hire Packers Asst HC Winston Moss who will bring Secondaty Coach Darren Perry to the Raiders with him…
    The usual moving parts will apply here as well…

  • Vinnie, you were saying?

  • W-L records don’t lie.

  • The bottom line is that Reid fares well against the weaker teams, but he’s not nearly as good as the top coaches against playoff teams, and that was with Jim Johnson at the helm. Now that he’s gone, Reid is much worse and will continue to be worse. He doesn’t even know how to find a DC. He’s an idiot.

  • What’s Tony Dungy’s Record, Tom Coughlin or Mike Shanahan’s playoff record..

  • Do your own homework.

  • I can tell you this, however. They all won SBs.

  • man i hope the texans dont resign mario williams him and cole you wont need a wide 9 and then you can trade that i only fit in one system babin to the rams for a 3 or 4 rd pick

  • While you’re doing that research, find out which coach has lost more playoff games in which his team was favored and/or hand home-field advantage?

  • I see that Vinnie has transformed into “the Invisible.”

  • It doesn’t matter, most coaches will not have winning records for only 1 Coach out of 32 every year goes 3-0 or maybe 4-0 while the other 11 Playoff Coaches go 0-1, 1-1, or 2-1 during 1 Playoff Season..

  • The Rams have no interest in Babin, Gloomy
    They have 3 good DE’s on their roster already in Long,Hall and last years 1st Round Pick Robert Quinn)
    Babin stays in Philly working with DL Coach Washburn (at least for 2012 anyways)

  • This article is a joke. It seeks to relieve this high-priced defense (which was supposedly designed to play with a lead) of its responsibility for 5 4th quarter losses.

    If anything, the offense did what it was supposed to do (at the very minimum). It gave this multi-million defense a lead going into the 4th quarter.

    The ingredients continue to change, but its still Kool-Aid.

  • WHO IN TH LEAGUE HAS IT WORSE THAN US…”NOOOOOOOOBODY”! Cheers everyone; the next round of green kool aid’s on me boys!

  • It absolutely does matter!

    We’re not looking for “most coaches.” We’re looking for a winning coach who can FINALLY win a SB for Philly.

  • ok paulman im talking about if wasburn leaves and who do you want here mario or babin you free up money when we get a 2and a 4 for asante then jp money will be off the books and maybe they trade or just get rid of wiston justice and then they can sign mario and flecther for i think the eagles will trade djack for 2013 picks and sign someone like robert mecheam,also i think the birds will running alot of two te sets and steal from the pats.Then in the draft they can get ur lb in the 2nd rd but not in the first and there will be no safety in the 1st either sorry dt,de.rt will be the choice

  • Without Jim Johnson and without his Rhodes holdovers, and with an open checkbook, Reid couldn’t get into the playoffs, despite the NFC East being up for grabs.

    Still the drinkers say, it’s not Reid. It’s the players, the coaches, the F.O., everyone and anyone, except Reid.

    The day will come, and very soon, when all the drinkers will realize (though they may never admit it) that Reid is a bum!

    Like Rocko said, “Have another round on me!”

  • Did reid tell maclin to drop that pass against the falcons did reid tell casey matthews to fall for a play action and get beat deep by jacobes,did reid tell jp to jump at the bills did reid tell the kicker to miss to easy kicks when they played s.f.,did reid tell vince young to stink it up in against the seahawks,did reid tell djack to drop two touchdowns vs the pats,did reid tell djack to miss a meeting,did reid tell vick not to slide hell i keep going did reid tell mccoy to miss a block in the atl so vick could get knocked out of the game did reid tell any of his dbs to miss a tackle all season the answer to all of these ?s is NOOOOOO he didnt at some point players have to play dont get me wrong reid could coach better he could use the best rb in the nfl alittle bit more and throw about 5% less he has flaws but doesnt every coach i mean has bill belichick won a damn thing since spy gate no coach is great to the core.

  • paul , i believe you r right spags is new orleans bound !

  • Drummer,
    The Next Eagles HC has not even Coached his 1st NFL Game yet, they will hire some non-descript yes man from the Coordiantor Level from the NFL and not be a Proven HC… This Front Office will not allow it … C’Mon Man…

  • Gloomy, and Washburn is not leaving.. he’s here thru 2012 likethe rest of them..

    And who are the Eagles going to trade CB Samuel to for a 2nd and 4th Round picks when he’s due $9.5 Million in 2012 and $10 Million in 2013..
    Keep dreaming Gloomy and now I know how you got your name from..

  • the lions had a deal in place to get him before the season and the bears are looking for cb help and like ive said before any team that trades for can redo his deal so he can fit under the cap sorry paulman he will be traded

  • Bears have no interest in Samuel, they look for press-coverage and man to man Coverages CB’s which is not Samuel’s style of play..
    Sorry Gloomy, All interested Teams and GM’s know the Eagles will release him right after Draft Weekend and will take their chances of signing him as a Free-Agnet and not have to give up any compensation to the Eagles
    I do see Teams like Vikings/Panthers/Cowboys/Dolphins/Lions as being serious in going after him once he’s a Free-Agent..

  • Word about the Lions Trade Breakdown is that the Lions wanted to re-work the 2012/2013 Years od his backloaded contract and that he and his Agent said no…

  • Gloomy,

    If it’s not Reid, then tell me one thing. How do YOU identify a poorly coached team?

    If it’s all on the players, then tell me who chose those players?

    No coach can win every year and Belichick hasn’t won since Brady got injured, but he has won. It’s Reid who hasn’t won anything. No one expects Reid to win the SB every year, but win one, or at least show some improvement. Where’s the improvement?

    Just tell me how YOU identify a poorly coached team.

    In my book a poorly coached team does all the things you mentioned. We’ve led the league in dropped passes how many years?

    There are drills made to improve that situation. I saw the Vikes have their receivers lay on their stomachs to catch passes. I saw another Eagles coach have their receivers call out numbers which had been painted on the balls before they caught it. This increased their concentration.

    No, Reid didn’t “tell” those players to do those things. That would be ridiculous, but he sure didn’t stop them either.

    So, again, how do YOU identify a poorly coached team. Perhaps, I’m seeing things wrong. I have an open mind. Just tell me.

  • Gloomy

    Here’s another example: Tikki Barber used to fumble frequently, then Coughlin came along and taught him to hold the ball differently. In his last year, Tikki may have had one fumble. It was a huge difference. That’s coaching.

    Many said Tikki couldn’t hold on to the ball, but coaching changed that outlook. It’s very easy to blame the players, but players often don’t reach their potential because of poor coaching.

    Randall Cunningham, in my opinion, would have been a completely different QB had he been taught the pro game, but Buddy Ryan told him to just “make plays.”

  • Geez, I guy can;t go spend the evening with his family without a slew of “where’d you go – you hidin?” lines…

    Drummer, I’m sure no other coach told Tiki to hold the ball differently either. Just Coughlin.The only good thing Coughlin did in terms of Barber was to send him packin’

    I’m happy to see that you mentioned Peyton, Belli, and Tomlin as 3 coaches with winning records against playoff teams though. Funny that they all have legit top 10 NFL QBs. We don’t.

    I can only imagine what their records would be if they had post 2006 McNabb followed by Vick at the helm for the past 5 years. Think those winning %s would have dropped a bit? If you don’t then you’re deluding yourself.

    Wait, I don’t have to imagine….I can back it up. Now pay attention Drummer, because you’re about to learn something here….Lets look at your uber-coaching hero Belichick. He of the .780 winning percentage against playoff teams that you’re touting.

    Remember 2008? When Cassel came in and they went a respectable 11-5?? Remember that? Well, guess what the great 780 winning percentage did against playoff teams that year….a solid….wait for it….2 wins and 4 losses…getting hammered by Miami, SD, Pitt, and losing to Indy…their wins were the return vs Mia and Arizona in a blizzard that the Cards wanted no part of.

    So what does that say bucko? Saddle Bellicheck with the mediocrity we’ve been dealing with at the QB position for the past 5 years and his record takes a beating too.

    Calling me the inventor doesn’t make it so buddy.. I don’t invent, no matter how hard you want to believe I do. Name me any hall of fame coach and I’ll point you to a hall of fame QB at the helm. Quarterback. Quarterback. Quarterback. Ours stinks. (And yes, the #1 reason I am upset with Reid is he has clearly deluded himself into thinking that he can win with these guys). Oh, and not just Qb…Qbs that are consistently good and STAY ON THE FIELD for more than 3 game stretches at a time. Guys that get to develp with their Oline, Wrs and Backs over the course of years consistently. Guys that play game after game after game because they’re not reckless idiots like the guy we have under centre right now.

    Oh….and as for every other coach not named Peyton or Belichick….
    As I stated earlier and pointed out clearly…of all the teams that made the playoffs this year, only 3 (I think – and no I don’t want to go back and research that again – go check my older posts if you’re that concerned) had winning records against playoff teams this year.

    Of the 4 remaining teams, I believe only the Ravens are left with that distinction at this point and their wins over “playoff teams” included 2 over cinci and they don;t really count as a playoff team do they?.

  • Vinnie – Who chose those QBs? Who traded Cassel?

    You’re making MY point! Reid sucks! You can’t keep blaming the players if the coach is one the choosing and coaching them. If i put cheap gas in my car, I can’t blame my car for under-performing. It’s on me, the operator.

    As I said, the jury’s still out on Vick. It was you who thought that bum Kolb was the greatest thing since sliced bread. He can’t even beat out John Skelton.

    Who’s the student now?

  • Vinnie,

    Again, I ask the question: How do YOU identify a poorly coached team?

  • Vinnie,

    The difference between you and I is simple. You blame everything on the QB and I blame everything on the head coach, where it rightfully belongs.

    The defense was designed to play with a lead. They had 5 4th quarter leads which they blew. You blame the QB and I blame to coach.

    This pass-happy offense gets QBs killed. You blame the QB and I blame the coach.

    This pass-happy offense doesn’t allow the defense to rest. You blame the QB and I blame the coach.

    We’ve had red-zone problems for years and refused to run the ball in the red zone until the final 4 games. You blame the QB and I blame the coach.

    The head coach allowed a rookie to start in the middle rather disregarding last year’s success. You blame the QB and I blame the coach.

    These terrible draft picks, you blame the QB and I blame the coach.

    Whatever’s clever!

  • drummer , you gotta admit ried has been less arrogant since the season has ended ! apparently lurie sent him on an extended vacation for his fine effort this year ! no changes needed here every thing will be just fine!

  • Nev856

    I have no idea whether Reid’s been less arrogant, and with all due respect, I really couldn’t care about his arrogance. I’m more concerned with his play-calling, head-scratching decisions (i.e., having mediocre receivers while throwing more than any team in NFL history, for 7 years), blowing an entire season because he didn’t secure a punt returner, refusing to run the ball against Carolina (despite our success and Runyan’s pleas that he “owned” his man), refusing to run Correll Buckhalter week after week (despite his 6+ yards per carry), his refusal to run McCoy in the red zone (until the season was all but over), his time management, his drafts, his predictability (i.e., the Patriots didn’t go into goal-line stance inside the 5-yard line because they knew Reid would throw the ball). Not only did they know he would throw, but they knew where the play was designed to go. And speaking of that fact, how many defenses have bragged that they knew exactly what Reid would call during games?

    I’m concerned with his appointment of an offensive line coach to defensive coordinator and his appointment of Howie Roseman, an attorney, to GM.

    The list goes on and on. Sorry, but his arrogance is the least of my concerns.

  • With all due respect to everyone, I have no need to go back and forth on whether Reid is a good or poor coach. Just educate me: How do you identify a poor coach?

  • Let me say that this is only my “opinion.” I am not so well versed with the NFL that they pay me. While I would love to cash in on that multi-billion dollar pie, here I sit, blogging. I am open-minded because a new idea can’t be grated onto a closed mind (like Vinnie, lol).

    So, my simple questions is “How do you identify a poor coach?”

  • I am not sure any of this matters in the here and now,
    Coach AR will be the HC for the Eagles in 2012 and JC will be the DC
    SO let;’s see how they imptove the Eagles Roster for the 2012 Season…
    The last 50 Years without a Championship is a mot point and really doesn’t matter to me at this point.. If we won the Super Bowl in 2004, what would it matter for 2012, that’s right, zippo… Every Season, each team and franchise has a unique identity of it’s own regardless of who the COach is and who the players are… Does anyone think in Green Bay how winning the Super Bowl last year and almost playing for an undefeated Season thuis year means anything at this point… Time moves on…

  • Paul

    It matters to me. The Eagles will be here this year, next year and the year after. Perhaps, 50 years without a championship is moot to you, but not to everyone.

    And you still didn’t answer the question.

  • Your discussions of who the Eagles might pick is relevant? You have no idea what they’re going to do. So, isn’t that moot? Sorry, but you don’t speak for everyone and you don’t control this board. I discuss whatever I want to discuss. If you have nothing to say on the issue, that’s fine, but don’t tell me my discussion is moot. It’s no more moot that your fantasy football discussions.

  • Like I was saying, please, someone tell me how to identify a poorly coached team. I’m beginning to believe that no one will answer because Reid possesses all the attributes of a poor coach, but I remain open-minded.

  • How many times are we all going to rehash the Failures of the Eagles and Coach AR, the play-calling, time-manamgent,poor Draft record, etc,etc… We all know that 2012 Season is his final Season for the Eagles won’t be much better than a 8-9 Win team next Season… I am looking forward and not backward… A poorly Coach Team is easy to spot when they show up flat for games (Bills,Cardinals,Seahawks against lesser competition and that should have been winneable is one example, When Teams fail consistently in the same areas year in and year out (Red Zone Scoring,Red-Zone Defense)
    Too many Penalties, Unbalalnced Play calling, Time Managament, etc, etc… I hear you and agree with you, Coach AR has become less than avearage as HC as he has become way too predictiable and stale as this Franchsie has… but he is here for 2012 and that’s all I can worry about at this time and see/specualte on who they Draft/Pursue in Free-Agency, Trade or Release and ultimately upgrade this Roster for obviously it wasn’t good enough last season
    How do they address the FB, Back-up RB, Back-up QB Postions
    How do they address D-Jax and WR if he movs on, How do they address CB Samuel as they try to trade him to get out his back-loaded Contracy and of course, how do they address the LB adn Safety positions which has hurt this Defense over the last 4-5 Seasons,,,
    The reason I say it’s moot and not to diss waht your brining up for you have all valid points, but what your talking about is the past and none of us can change what’s happened,but what they do about the future make-up of this team moving forward is what I am concentrating on for as an Eagle Fan, it’s the only thing I have to look forward too since Coach Ar and his Staff are all returning for 2012.. Next Off-Season will even be crazier, for we will be specualting about who the Eagles should or will hire, whether QB Vick remains and Eagle etc,etc.. I think This Off-Season, with Coach AR ass on the line, we will see little chaanges made (outside of adding a Secondary Coach) they will keep about 1/2 of their own Free-agents and sign 3-4 and Draft for the Future.. Coach AR went thru a ton of changes last year with medicore results, I don’t see him doing this again in 2012 for which will most likely will be his final Season as HC for the Eagles..

  • It would seem to me that you would be more tired of Reid making the same mistakes than you are of discussing them.

    No one is forcing you to talk about that. If you want to discuss drafts, etc., who’s stopping you? Welcome to America, Paul!

    Just remember, you can’t control the future either. So, what’s the difference?

  • Paul, I can understand that you’re tired of discussing certain subjects. You’re on here a lot more than I. I asked a question and no one’s given me an answer, until now. My question is directed at those who believe Reid is a good coach.

    If someone believes Reid is a good coach, I’d like to know how they identify a bad coach.

  • Teams and Coach’s AR Record in the last 5 Years is nothing special and his Playoff Record is actually pretty poor…Unfortunately, Fans are stuck with him thru 2012 Season.. This Eagle Team, as I stated for 2-3 years now, is just not that good and basically are slightly above average… and besides having a Stale Coach and outdated,predictable schemes, the #1 Issue I have is they don’t have a qualified and real Football GM either so they are doomed to fail in my opinion until both Positions are addressed and if I were Owner Lurie, my next Hire would be a real GM who in turn would hire the next HC and Coaching Staff..which is probably more wishful thinking on my part..

  • What makes a good coach? Are his players playing? or are they rolling over like the Bucs and Colts did this year? Seems to me The Eagles’ kept playing, albeit with apparantly inferior talent on several positions. QB, LB, Safety to name the most glaring areas.

    Does he have a winning record? Has he made the playoffs 9 of his 13 years? Do you recognize how hard that is? This wasn’t all just because of Jim Johnson or “ray rhodes players” (completely untrue)…BTW, even if JJ played a role in the team’s success…didn’t Reid hire him? So he’s good when he hires JJ, and Morningwheg…but not when he hires Castillo or McDermott? Win some lose some I guess.

    You write about how “poor tackling” is an indicator of poor coaching. Is it? You really don’t think the coaches preach “wrap up” 50x a practice? Was it poor coaching when the SF safety tried to torpedo Coulston the other day instead of wrapping up and he trotted into the endzone…or later when the same thing happened to Jimmy Graham…hmmm…I though SF was a well coached “tackling” D, and here were 2 plays where the guys did exactly what you’re accusing the “uncoached” birds did all year. Poor tackling is a league wide problem. Caused primarily (I believe) by a desire for the big sportcentre kill shot highlight.

    Is Reid a good coach?….well lets look at it this way. Could a bad coach have rolled up the record he has, pretty consistently for what…13 years?

    Here’s the deal. You can be a good coach, and despite all the things that infuriate me about the guy (god I wish he would just hire a clock mgmt coach – hopefully me), Reid is a good coach, and produces winning teams. But you cannot be an elite coach without an elite QB.

    Just look at Reid’s record. Compare his first half and 2nd half. Its all about the QB. He had 1999-2005 McNabb playing at a very high level…then he didn’t. Everything else stayed pretty much the same.

    Look at Bellichick. You think he really changed his philosophy from Cleveland to NE? From Brady to Cassel? Nope, but with Brady he smashes playoff teams, whith anyone else at the helm he’s sub 500 against said same playoff teams..

    Or another way….be honest. Put Mcnabb/Vick at QB for NE the past 10 years and Brady here. I guarantee you we’d be talking about Reid for HOF.

    As for your other points. I’ll address them one by one.

    “The defense was designed to play with a lead. They had 5 4th quarter leads which they blew. You blame the QB and I blame to coach”
    At least 2 of those were not “blown 4th Q leads” When the other team has the ball at the 50 to start the Q and Birds up 2, I’d hardly characterize it as a blown lead. Also, the Eagles scored 0 points in the 4th Qs of those games. Gimmie a break.

    “This pass-happy offense gets QBs killed. You blame the QB and I blame the coach.”
    Look at the numbers. I can name a gaggle of other teams who are even more pass wacky than the Eagles are…including your beloved Belichick. Pass atts per game….Vick 32, Stafford 41, Brees 41, Brady 38, Eli 37, Rivers 36….get the picture

    “This pass-happy offense doesn’t allow the defense to rest. You blame the QB and I blame the coach.”
    Turnovers and 3-outs don’t allow the D to rest. Vick is an innacurate turnover machine. I don’t want to do the research, but if I did I have a feeling the Eagles’ just might be top 10 in 3-outs. AIs that the play calling, or failure to execute.
    Birds ranked 31st in interceptions given up. 26th in fumbles given up. 31st overall in turnovers given up. SEASON OVER. Did Reid throw the ball to the other team?

    “We’ve had red-zone problems for years and refused to run the ball in the red zone until the final 4 games. You blame the QB and I blame the coach.”
    Didn’t McCoy score 17 rushing tds? As a team they scored 20 rushing TDs…the vast majority coming inside the redzone.

    “Add that to the The head coach allowed a rookie to start in the middle rather disregarding last year’s success.”
    Granted….this didn’t make a lot of sense at the time and still doesn’t.

    “These terrible draft picks, you blame the QB and I blame the coach.”
    As has been proven over and over and opver on here by the listing of draft picks from multiple teams, the Eagles’ are right with other teams as far as drafting goes We get the same # of starters/pro bowlers etc from the draft as anyone else. In fact, this last draft looks like it might be very good with Watkins and Kelce playing well, the team looking set at K and P for the next decade, and an exciting looking change-of pace RB. You expect every pick to be a homerun? 4 solid contributing picks from a draft is very solid.

  • This entire article is a perfect illustration of the old adage, “Too many people use statistics like a drunk uses a lamppost … more for support than illumination.”

  • I know it sounds like I’m advocating for Reid. I’m not. I believe his time has come, though I appreciate the run he took the birds on 1999-2005. Was fun. And needed. Seems to have run its course, and its time to move on.

    (though I also believe he will be successful whereever he lands….and you can guarantee there will be several teams bidding for him when he is released from here.

    What I am saying, is some people better lower expectations as far as what’s going to happen if a new coach comes in (in 2013). This team is headed nowhere with the Qbing situation the way it is. If you can’t see that….then you’re deluding yourselves.

    My hope is that the FO recognizes this and picks one up with one of the top 3 selections. And maybe another the year after that.

  • Paulman’s list of the Eagles Next Head Coach for the 2013 Season

    Jay Gruden (O/C for the Cincinnati Bengals)
    Chuck Chudzinski (O/C for the Carolina Panthers)
    Dennis Allen (D/C for the Denver Broncos)
    Chuck Pagano (D/C for the Baltimore Ravens)
    Juan Castillo (D/C for the Philadelphia Eagles)

  • Why aren’t the Eagles all over BILL POLIAN like White on rice????? He can’t draft DBs, but the Eagles only need one really good safety, he’s drafted virtually every other position well and been a part of so many “Gold Standard” situations. This seems like a no-brainer.

  • Vinnie,

    Didn’t those same problems plague, the Niners last year? What’s the difference this year? It’s not about preaching. It’s about teaching. It’s about those things you and I have know nothing about, but the evidence shows up in games.

    You don’t see Belichick’s receivers routinely dropping balls and missing tackles. The 49ers went from worst to first, with only coaching change. They may even end up in the SB. To me, that’s clear evidence that coaching is “the most important” issue attached to our Eagles.

    Like I said earlier, I watched the Vikes (when they had Chris Carter, et al) have their receivers pass catch while laying on their stomachs and another coach had their players call out the numbers written on footballs before catching them to increase their focus.

    That’s what makes the difference between a good coach and a bad coach. Hell, I can “preach” about what should be done. Any idiot can, but the “professionals” know how to teach it.

    And the question was, “How do you identify a poor coach?” Not what makes a good coach. Those are two completely different things.

  • Actually, the questions was, “How do ‘you’ identify a poorly coached team?”

  • Why is Michael Vick getting a PASS????? McNabb would be getting crucified and run out of town if the roles were reversed. Something really smells here…..

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