Have you noticed how the evaluation of quarterbacks has changed here in Philadelphia over the last year? It used to be that a quarterback was judged by the Super Bowls they had won or the likelihood that they would lead this current Eagles team to a Super Bowl victory.
That was stressed and rightfully so because ultimately that’s the goal or should be the goal of every team in the National Football League.
I think that’s the reason Andy Reid decided to go with Michael Vick or Kevin Kolb as the team’s starting quarterback.
I believe Reid realized that if he doesn’t have a big-armed quarterback with tremendous escapability to avoid the pass rush and get the ball deep to DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin, he won’t have any success with this football team.
I believe Reid realized that Kolb’s strengths don’t gel with the talents of his current wide receivers, especially Jackson. He’s not a classic west coast receiver, who can take the hits that are dished out by safeties and linebackers when a receiver is going across the middle.
If you’ve noticed, Kolb has most his success throwing the ball in the middle of the field. The slant route is an anchor of the west coast offense, but how many of them have you seen run by Jackson this season. It doesn’t make sense to have him run slant routes and give the safeties and linebackers a chance to knock him out of the game.
You’ve got to get the ball deep to him. It’s that simple. Vick like Donovan McNabb has a cannon for an arm and can get the ball deep to Jackson. It’s not so easy for Kolb.
Therefore it’s unlikely that Kolb can lead this current Eagles team with Jackson as their premiere weapon to a Super Bowl title.
Yes Super Bowl title. That was supposedly the reason we traded McNabb to Washington. All that mattered here was winning a Super bowl title.
Now the focus is on the feelings of the quarterback. The media coverage of the Eagles quarterback position has done an about face.
It’s changed to the point where there’s now more discussion of how a quarterback feels about being benched as compared to whether his play or limitations warrant it. Since when did we care how a player feels about being benched.
Shouldn’t it be about leading us to a Super Bowl title?
I don’t remember hearing the “how does he feel” discussion when we were discussing taking the ball from Brad Lidge last year, just a year after he led us to a World Series title and had a perfect season as a closer. Local baseball analysts and fans were going after him with no mercy.
It was simple, he wasn’t getting the job done.
Have you heard anybody discussing how Kyle Kendrick felt about being left off the NLDS roster? That was a challenging demotion, but I don’t see anybody crying for him.
Did anybody care last year about how the Flyers goallies felt about being benched and yoed-yoed around by their coach when we were in pursuit of the Stanley Cup? It was taken for granted that they had to do their job. Who cares how they felt?
Now it seems like Oprah and the ladies on the View are covering the Eagles. Everybody has gotten so sensitive. I’ve seen articles and heard discussions that never took place before here in Philadelphia.
Here in the city of brotherly love we’ve been known for being tough on our athletes. They can’t accuse us of that any more with the media and fans here crying about how a player feels about being benched. The coach is being accused of “not caring”.
Imagine that a coach not caring how his players are feeling.
Professional athletes are paid millions of dollars to be tough physically and tough mentally. Things are done to them that aren’t fair.
I’ve never seen a benching portrayed as a crucifixion. Players get benched every day. Guys are traded for not performing well enough.
Is anybody crying for Matt Leinart, who was drafted in the first round by the Cardinals, yoed-yoed around with Kurt Warner taking his place. This year he was supposed to get his chance, but they decided not to and released him.
Did anybody care how he felt?
Have you heard or read anybody wondering how Akeem Jordan feels about having his starting job taken from him?
If Kolb starts feeling mistreated, he can lean on the shoulders of quite a few other players in the locker room, who have been previously benched.
uh G, you interact with the media more than anyone of us because you’re a part of it and you are there at the press conferences, practices…etc…. and this is another article where basically, you’re just venting about the media. I don’t think any fans (at all) give two craps about feelings (except those who feel more victimized by Desean’s lack of ultrawealth than he does him self of course….)]
But seriously, where have you seen fans caring about Kolb’s feelings?
How could you not care about kolbs feelings. You fans out there r being just flat out hateful. I mean i personally fell TERRIBLE that kolb is ONLY making FIVE TO SIX MILLION dollars this year to hold a clipbaord. You people honeslty think thats fair to kolb …………….ok honeslty was that sacrcastic enough LOL?
I agree with Schiller, that again, it’s the local media stirring up the pot for endless articles to keep a
“QB Controversary” front and center … Most fans that I know are not feeling sorry for anyone,
Most realize that Vick, when healthy, will be the Starting #1 QB and gives the Eagles the best chance of winning now which I think Coach AR has even publicly acknowledged and spoke to his team about..
LEt’s play ball…
Hey G Kolb ain’t the one writing the articles
I haven’t heard him whining or saying he was mistreated or wants to be traded so whats your problem with him and stating he can cry on other benched players shoulders
When he starts bitchin then you can dump on him until then save it for the reporters etc
yeah schiller got it right. apparently you are the only one who cares about kolbs feelings. do i wish good chemistry for our team ? sure, but you clearly just took something the wrong way as you don’t really support it with anything other then “the media”
I think you take issue with the fact that the city isnt even 60% behind Vick. I think we can all agree he’s fun to watch and gives our best chance at winning a title this year. having said that, i cant cheer for the guy, he’s paid his time and I’m not talking about his awful deeds. He just isnt likeable and you I still wouldnt trust our franchise to him. How is a fan suppose to react, yes all we want to do is win… but to enjoy the ride would be nice.
Actually, you sound like someone hurt YOUR feelings G. You’ve had your feelings hurt every since McNabb was traded. So what others are saying that. You sound just like them complaing.
Get back to ANALYZING football. You do that well. Leave the other stuff alone.
If you ewant to paint the media as sensitive thats fair I guess…But you cant throw stones at Kolb…He cant help what people write or say…He has handled this whole quagmire with nothing but class..slow your roll G..
Arm strength, arm strength, arm strength. This is getting to be a broken record. Listen. I’ve been watching the mobile QB with the Cannon arm movie for 20+ years now. I know how it ends. And I’m pretty sure how its going to end with Vick.
I want to try the prescision passer without the touch passing movie once. The one that starred Montana, and Aikman and Simms. I don’t know how that movie will end for the Birds. Could it star Kolb? Maybe. I want to find out. He’s gotten better in each game he’s played. Going in to SF against a good D and a team absolutely desperate for a win was certainly more impressive than Vick lighting it up against Det and Jax.
The bottom line is the team needs to find out what it has in Kolb to move forward. Playing Vick serves nothing. And frankly, the article is about “who cares if Kolb’s feelings are hurt.” Well, who cares if Deesean’s feelings are hurt that he’s not putting up highlight performances and instead the glory goes to McCoy or Celek or Maclin.
If we eliminate the GB game where Kolb was hurt early…the guy is 2-1 as a starter.
@ vinnie sry bud atm the moment i dont think there is a comparison between vick and mnabb. Vick is clearly the better qb atm. Between vick and kolb its not even remtoly close. What your comment should have been was youve seen how it ended with mcanbb. The new mick vick you dont have a clue how his story will end. I honeslty think vick has a lot better of a chnce with this team than mcanbb did. GO BIRDS
The main problem with Philly is the local media that seems to love to stir things up and invent a story rather the reporting on what actually is. That added to the nitwits on 610wip in the morning. And then you have the Vick haters that will never like Vick as a qb mainly because of his past. i can name a few more issues, but i don’t want to get into all of that. All of that being said, the majority of people realize that this team is better with Vick rather than Kolb.
It’s a joke! Between the “Sentimental-Sally-Visits-Get-Over-Valley Articles” and the “Rose-Colored-Glasses” viewpoints, I’m amazed at all the Kolb hype.
I try to maintain a balanced viewpoint, and it’s sometimes difficult. But really! This is the same QB who couldn’t get into the end zone since the pre-season. Andy helped him greatly by running the ball, but even then, the guy did barely enough to win the game.
San Francisco is woeful and inexplicably decided not to blitz Kolb, but eventually some team is going to come after him. Even absent the blitz, Kolb’s inability to go downfield has rendered our pro-bowl receiver to punt returning duties, exclusively.
We all know why the shift in media coverage has occurred, but no one wants to say it. So, I’ll say it. After nearly two decades of black QBs, the media and some of the fan base desperately want a white QB. Hey, the majority of paying customers are white and they want to see a white QB. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Personally, I couldn’t care less who’s quarterbacking, as long as he can play. Kolb, thus far, in my humble opinion, has proven to be only a serviceable back-up (much like Detmer).
A QB like Sam Bradford, a true rookie, has already shown more ability than Kolb, and there’s no way to justify trading away our 1st-round pick in 2007 and picking Kolb. The team had many needs ignored and instead helped improve a divisional opponent, who, in turn, kicked our butts good!
At this point, I’d take Anthony Spencer over Kolb. At least one of our linebacker spots would be secure.
I keep reading that Vick gives the Eagles the best chance to win “now.” Exactly when will Kolb give the Eagles the best chance to win? It’s already been 4 years. This isn’t college.
I’ve seen how it ended with Cunningham, and McNabb. And I’ve seen how it ended with “old” VIck too as you put it….(and BTW there is no “new vick/old vick” You think there’s “new Vick” ’cause he got to throw against the 2 worst secondaries in the league.) I saw how it ended with Tarkenton. I haven’t seen how it will end with Kolb.
VIck may be better than McNabb now, but not 6 years ago. McNabb was superior. And the result……….? And I said 20 years, so I’m tossing Cunningham into the pile too. I’ve seen the scramblers. I want to see a touch guy.
And who really says Vick and Kolb are “not even close” You have enough data for that? Kolb is 2-1 beating KC, losing to NO and beating SF. He looked very good in 2 of those wins. Vick is 2-0 beating Det and Jax and looking good in both of those.
Vick looked good in relief during the GB game and Kolb looked good in relief in the Wsh game. Look, if you think a guy scrambling for 20 is “better” that’s fine. I personally prefer a checkdown to Schmidt that picks up the 1st. I think that’s what wins in the long run.
Scramblers are exciting, but eventually Ds learn to defeat them.
Drummer…you mean the woeful SF D that last week held Matt Ryan to a 67.3 rating and 2 picks…and that this week Kolb played nicely against?
“Andy helped him greatly by running the ball??” You think? You write this like its a bad thing. He “only” won ’cause they ran the ball. This was the most positive development I’ve seen from Reid in weeks. Ask Joe Flacco if he enjoys his running game.
Who the hell cares that Kolb didn’t get the Birds to the endzone in the preseason? In the regular season he’s 63% for 478 and 2 tds in 1 and 3/4 games. Clearly terrible.
And if you’re referrring to me as a member of the ‘fan base” wanting to see a white QB I just want to see a pocket QB. I could care less what colour he is. My name isn’t Belichick.
hey G i here ya
i read the paper yesterday and in the article it was raving about kolb’s play lololol and how spectacular he was and how this was the future of the eagles and how we have such a bright future with him
what makes them say he’s the future lmao
his performance was solid like i said in a previous post its a good game compared to other qb’s its a spectacular performance if u compare it kevin kolb himself
vinnie its the same niners d that gave 31 to chiefs 25 to saints and 31 to seahawks
its the 20th ranked football in the nfl pleas stfu
kolb played 3 games he’s 1-2
vick 2-0
if u gonna say stats say all the stats san fran is putrid on both sides of the ball i dont give a shit about patrick willis he need help
I give Kevin credit for not doing any crying. He has carried himself like a professional, which expected of every other player on the team. My comments are about his play and the coverage of the team. I share my opinions and you react to them, that’s the essence of this site. I write about what I want to write about and you chose to read it or not read it.
I have no problem with people disagreeing with me. I can understand people disagreeing with me because I find myself disagreeing with myself over time. I may have felt a certain way for a time, then I changed my mind.
I respect everybody’s opinion and think it’s part of the fun of the discussion. We can disagree without being disagreeable.
get used to vick he gonna be your starting qb for some time the next 3 or 4 yrs for sure
he dont have no competition its a landslide
Acutally i do have enough data for that vinnie. Im sry but i may be missing your point too. You defend kolb with two wins KC AND SF……who both suck WORSE than DET AND JAC who vick beat. Need more proof vick has won ALOT of games in his career. I hate to break this to you but he has won agaist some GREAT TEAMS in the past. How can you honselty say there is any comparison between the two. Not like the popularity contest is much of a bar to set(AKA probowl) but vick has a few of those too. Honeslty if you think this isnt a completly dif mike vick then was in atl i dont know what youve been watching all season. He is ALOT more accurate then he was, has great touch on the ball now, and is by FAR NOT a run furst quaterback anymore. Plus he still has one of the most deadly set of legs in the leauge. As far as defenses learning to deafet vick i dont really think its as easy as you make it sound. What ive seen temas TRY to do is always have him “ghosted” which constanly takes a defensive player out of the back field to shadow vick which further gives us an advantage.
“Can’t we all just get along”…. I am tired of hearing this too…. good grief Charlie Brown…
Vinnie,
First, you couldn’t be more wrong about me writing like running the ball is a bad thing. Here’s my post from yesterday. I think it would be more accurate to say that you are reading into it.
drummerwinslow says:
October 11, 2010 at 11:49 am
My Thoughts Eagles v. Niners
Once again, Andy Reid has changed his personality because of the loss of his starting QB. That’s a good thing!!! He actually put Kolb in a position to succeed.
Reid’s scripted first 15 plays were awesome!! He mixed up the run, screens and mid-range passes, thereby keeping the defense off-balanced.
Even better, he continued those types of calls throughout the game. I watched the Niners’ defensive linemen and they were hesitant (worried that McCoy would run past them). Again, that’s a very good thing. Because of their hesitancy, our offensive line was able to give Kolb time to read the coverage and deliver the ball. Given that time, Kolb looked like a capable NFL quarterback.
I don’t believe you need a superstar QB to win in this league. With a strong defense and solid all-around offense, I believe, you can succeed. We don’t need to lead the league in rushing. However, our run game must be a threat.
Unfortunately, when Reid has a QB with above-average skills, he likes to wing the ball 50 times a game. I believe he threw only 30 times yesterday and ran 27 times. That’s great balance. If he had done that with McNabb, we’d have some jewelry by now.
My opinion of Kolb is up for revision. I still have to see how he responds to the blitz and taking hits. I was certain that Singletary would blitz, but I was wrong. If Kolb can hang in during the blitz and not play scared after being hit, he could be anything from a serviceable back-up to a starter on a good, balanced team.
Also, Vinnie, I care that Kolb didn’t get them into the end zone. It’s not just that he didn’t get them in, but it’s how he has gone about not getting them in the end zone. The guy cannot throw downfield.
Like I said, if McNabb had enjoyed that same “balance” of attack, he undoubtedly would have won a ring or two. After all, when he finally got a pro-bowl receiver, he became a record-breaking QB. Unfortunately, Reid’s predictable, pass-happy offense nearly got him killed.
Why do you blame the QB for the loss, when he had no support? Do you think Kolb would have fared any better? McNabb was getting creamed from the very first play. Besides, wasn’t McNabb a pocket QB? He ran very little. In fact, people complained that he didn’t run enough.
What did BWest do in the Superbowl? How about the defense? The offensive line was horrendous!! Richard Seymour absolutely owned Hank Fraley. Anyone who knows football understands that no quarterback stands a chance when pressure comes up the gut.
Paul
Like G said, if you tired of it, don’t read it.
PW, I guess you didn’t see my question a few articles back but I gotta know..How TF do you get Kolb is 1-2 and Vick is 2-0. So Kolb only started how many..2 games? But he gets 1 win and 2 losses? Your playing blame the loss on the QB you don’t like. Let me spell it out for you. So Kolb won 1 game (SF) and lost 2 (GB and WAS?) so by your logic, Kolb starts the GB game, gets hurt, Vick comes in, we lose and Kolb gets the loss, OK so why then does Vick start the Wash game, get hurt, Kolb comes in we still lose and Kolb gets the loss? Because your biased to Vick that’s why. It needs to work both ways in all fairness. Kolb 1-1 as a starter Vick 2-1 as a starter. Now respond with how Kolb sucks and all that but you’ll only prove that you just a biased Vick fan and will refuse logic in spite of that. And before you say it, I know it’s obvious Vick is a better QB than Kolb, there’s no point in arguing that fact, but saying Kolb is 1-2 and Vick is 2-0 is rediculous.
G, also i think alot of what people miss about this Kolb/Vick thing is besides the fact that Vick is better at this point, and his abilities help open up the offense more than Kolb’s can, is that Andy Reid as a head coach LEARNED HOW TO BE A HEAD COACH, with the help of the abilities of a QB that made plays. He NEEDS a playmaker at that position to be sucessful himself. He was NEVER a NFL head coach or even called plays on a Pro level before his first year with the birds. Half the year was Doug Peterson, the boom…right into McNabb making chicken salad out of chicken *bleep*. Vick is his comfort zone. Those sack strip fumbles and crucial interceptions are coach killers. Kolb played well, but Reid knows teams with upper echelon coaching staff, like Green Bay that blitzed him into submission, and the Giants, Indy,the Titans, and Dallas would take advantage of Kevin. The 49ers suck, and i didnt realized they were this bad, until i watched that game.
Wilcher
I agree with your post.
oh so vick should get wash loss and he only played 10 min and we all know we win that game with vick
im not a biased vick fan
kolb stinks im not a kolb fan period
vick came in at halftime and if we had more time we win that game if he came in when the 2nd qtr starts we win that game but we sat thru bum ass kolb for a half
thats y i said what i said
it dont matter u been on kolb dick since off season and who cares if im biased or not ur head coach is biased lmao
hey u can always root for kolb somewhere else
and andy saw this movie before with d5
5 gets hurt kolb gets bum ass chiefs and he’s the greatest please
we know how this movie ends already we wont see the sequel
hopefully our starting qb that i told u many months ago would overtake this bum and did will be able to start this week
if not we in trouble
point blank period www u can like kolb all u want but vick like 3 times better lmao
he’s better than kolb at what kolb does
and nobody better than #7 at what he does so i dont care if im pissing u off the truth does that
thanx andy now put that bum banck on the bench with clipboard thats where he belong
I’ll put it like this: If Kolb were Reid’s first drafted QB (instead of McNabb), one (or both) of them would have been gone a long, long time ago.
Could you see Kolb throwing 50 passes a game to Charles Johnson, Torrance Smalls, Na Brown, Freddie Mitchell, Gari Scott, James Thrash, Dameane Douglas, Carlos Johnson, David Foye, Greg Lewis, Billy McMullen, Sean Morey, Reggie Brown, Carlos Perez, Jared Jones, Hank Baskett, Donte Stallworth, Michael Gasperson?
dont worry about this argument to much longer for kolb probably wont wanna be a backup all his life even though thats what his talent indicates so he’ll be gone next yr we can argue vick kafka lol
“G” I completely agree and understand your article. This has been a hot topic in offices and in barber shops for weeks. I am amazed at all these hard tough “McNabb” hating fans that blasted everything he did but when it comes to Kolb we all of a sudden have patience. I could see if Kold was a 22 year old rookie but he is a 26 year old man with 4 years of studying under a good QB coach in AR. The people who say his arm will get better etc. either are so out of touch with reality or have some deeper issues with the overall situation that they will stick with a player that is not as good as the other guy. I’ve been waiting since Kolb’s rookie year to see him in preseason or other appearences just throw a 25 yard dig route or deep out but I have yet to see it and I now know that he is not caple of such throws that are necessary to win in the current NFL. You can only go so far with Kolbs abilities unless you become a total running team. The bottom line is that any quaterback with ability is going to show that in all phases of their career. Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford , and Josh Freeman all proved to make NFL caliber throws in their first year. They may make mistakes reading coverage etc. but they show that can make necessary NFL throws. Please go back and look at Kolb in College with this spread offense that contained quick slants to WIDE open receivers. Never had consistant pass rush to deal with. He has run the Spread his entire high school and college career and I think Kolb is the same as Graham Harrell from Texas Tech. The eagles gambled with him and to me they lost.
drum i dont see him throwing passes to djax maybe a cpl hitches to maclin and a wounded duck that was supposed to be a bomb to maclin in which he made a great play on the ball and the dback was retarded
he throws to owen schmitt lol
thnx d roc
Kolb is a college spread QB not a Drop back NFL QB
Phillywill
I was dumbfounded when some called Kolb’s pass to Maclin a great one. It should have been picked off. In fact, the majority of his passes covering more than 20 yards have been up for grabs for the defender.
If Reid were building an offense for a QB such as Kolb, he should have drafted big, possession-type receivers and traded for all-pro linemen (across the board). Also, he should have drafted a strong corp of running backs.
How long do you think it would take for Reid to put such an offense together for Kolb?
I’ll say it. Kolb is white. Philadelphia has not had a white starting quarterback for over a decade. And not since Jawarski, one that started very long. People like Didinger, and other beat writers are protective of Kolb unlike any recent QB. Kolb is the 1st high draft pick on a white QB and he is their Rocky.
There.
In the Washington game, Vick was getting untracked. He had just gotten to the 1-yard line, but a holding penalty moved the ball back. I believe Vick would have won that game.
Forget the fans and the media for a second. If you asked each defensive coordinator throughout the league which QB they’d like to face (either Vick or Kolb), undoubtedly, to a man, they’d choose Kolb. He scares no one.
How is G not getting this? It has nothing to do with feelings, at least in regards to the fans stance. We allowed McNabb to walk away because we understood that he was not going to win a title. We accepted Kolb, took the winter and spring to put us in the mind set to allow for a rebuilding season, but under the condition we’d be better off down the road. Instead, we ditch Kolb, pick up Vick, who is worse then McNabb. At least McNabb was durable and could figure out how to avoid hits. Vick missed a ton of time towards the end of this tenure in Atl. and he is probably going to try and break the bank on his next contract. reference chapter 11. What’s worse then taking a year to rebuild? Taking two years to rebuild.
It has always been about “feelings.” When Donovan McNabb was here, you initially couldn’t criticize him. You would be shouted down on WIP for saying that he through wormballs, or couldn’t win the big one. Remember? Then, after about 8 years of near misses and whining and passive-aggressive behavior by McNabb, it became acceptable to “hurt” Donovan’s feelings. Then the Ed Block Courage Award was given to Michael Vick because people had been hurting his feelings and calling him a dog-killer, etc. He was (and is) beyond reproach. It’s always about feelings!
Ok, bsmvideos..phillwill, drummer, songs, are we starting the race debate again?
If it is how you say, I would suggest that the Kolb-hater club is also full of members with similar motivations that you prescribe above. They will support, or root against a player purely based on the color of his skin.
BSMvideos, for you it seems about being black. So Ray Didinger is a racist? More likely you are. Didn’t Philadelphia writers have to be extremely careful how they described or discussed Cunningham or McNabb because of race? And do all white people worship at the feet of the White Rocky? Please advance the discourse on this website and in life.
Say it, WWW!! Counting Kolb and Vick as starting QB’s under Reid and QB’s of record, Kolb is 2-2 and Vick is 2-1 counting Kolb’s starting experience from last year also.
McNabb, Vick or Kolb couldn’t or will not ever win a SB because they have to work with Reid’s system, under which the defense is also 50% of scheme. This organization, of which Roseman is now a part, really need to seriously consider what kind of NFL, not just NFC east, pro football team they want playing at the Linc in order to get the big prize…. a SB. It’s not by accident that we are the only NFC east team to never win a SB!!!!
I don’t think Ray Didinger is by any means racist. I think a big issue is that so called “experts” had an opinion of Kolb in the summer and now they look wrong. So people have to hold true and make excuses to not be proven wrong. Its not black or white its about ability and reality. If Kolb was Peyton Manning everthying would be fine. I think the expectations set on Kolb were too much for a second round draft pick, weak armed, spread quarterback from the University of Houston.
Race should not play a part in sports especially in a team sport like football, but race is still an issue in our society so it does creep in. I know personally people who want to see a “White” quarterback and people that just want to see a “Black” quarterback. I personally want a quarterback that can make all the throws.
hey green i never mentioned race
dont pull me into that 1
but since race was brought up let me say what i think lol
i dont think any1 is prejudice i just think people are pro their race
i dont know if thats good or bad
but i really believe when it comes to race people arent saying i dont like vick cause he is black well at least not my generation
and vice versa black ppl arent sitting at home saying i dont like the qb he is white
i think it may be a lil bit of human nature to maybe pull for ur own race i could be wrong but i dont think majority of ppl are racist anymore especially the younger generation
now i do think ppl are pro race tho and i dont know if thats racism i dont think so tho
but pro race or not kolb is just gonna piss ppl off if thats the reason they wanna see him cause he aint that good
lets get ryan mallet in here and be pro race im black i will be pro race with u guys for him lmao
PW, I never said Kolb was better than Vick, in fact in my post I make it clear it is obvious that Vick is better than Kolb. I know that, I’m not stupid. I supported Kolb because in the offseason he was named the starter, so as a fan of the team I put my support behind the team out on the field. If it was an open QB competition in the offseason and through camp and Vick won, I’d be behind Vick as the starter. It has nothing to do with being on Kolbs junk bro, I supported the teams decisions and got behind them regardless if I think AR is making the right decisions or not.
Now you say if this happened…we win that game, or if this happens we win that game…well, REALITY is that none of those things happened. People got hurt, we lost games, we won games. But saying just because you think if Vick didn’t get hurt we would’ve won that game and then put the loss on Kolb is like saying..well if Mcnabb didn’t throw the ball in the dirt we would’ve won the game so that’s another “win” for D5…or if K Curtis catches that ball in the NFCCG against Arizona we would’ve had a first down and we would’ve won that game and then won the SB. Or if a whole bunch of other things would’ve happened we’d have 20 effin Lombardi trophies right now.
Quit with the emotional BS and look at the facts. THIS year Kolb 1-1 as a starter Vick 2-1 it’s that simple. Root for who you want, I support the team, do I need to make it any plainer for you. The TEAM. If Vick is the QB or Kolb or if Joe Montana came out of retirement with his Sketchers sneekers and is our #1, that’s who I’m behind.
And for the record, I don’t give 2 flying effs what color anyone is and it pisses me off when ppl here gotta bring it up. It’s always “well no one wants to say it but I will” No one says it because it doesn’t need to be said.
Stop it with the racism charges because nobody can read somebody else’s heart and motivations. Let’s keep the discussion on football. I’m starting to believe that if they’re going to build this team around Kevin Kolb, they should trade DeSean Jackson for a bigger and more physical receiver.
If they build the team around Vick, Jackson fits. If it’s Kolb he doesn’t fit.
I am with Wellwellwell for the most part. Since I love the eagles and have had emotional ties with the team since I was 5 years old, I support the team. I was a teenager with Bobby Hoying was named the starter and I had optimism that year as well until I saw his play. Since I love the “Eagles” it will be hard for me to accept Kolb as the starter knowing that we have a better chance to win with Vick but Andy also has an intersest in the team’s success so he made the correct decision to start Vick. The head coach made the decision that Vick is the starter for the remainder of the season. Lets see how it pans out.
G, If you can..ask someone in the Philly org why they cut K. Washington.
I’ve always know Rad Didinger to be fair and I think he’s been fair in this situation. He and Brian Baldinger did a great job of showing what Kevin Kolb was doing right in his earlier games and what he was doing wrong. We can’t accuse something just because we don’t agree with them.
Again I get back to the point that it doesn’t make sense to believe Kolb can lead us to a Super Bowl title if he can’t get the ball deep to DeSean Jackson. If the guy teamed with Jeremy Maclin was Hakeem Nicks then I think Kolb would able to work the middle of the field with intermediate throws which are his strengths.