I think the knowledge that Andy Reid was covering up Donovan McNabb’s weaknesses over the years also gives us some light on what he’s doing now with another quarterback. Just as sure as McNabb has had problems with the two-minute drill, Kevin Kolb doesn’t have a big enough arm strength to allow the Eagles to take advantage of their speed at the wide receiver position.
Reid and Marty Mornhinweg do a great job of coming up with game plans which take advantage of their quarterback’s strengths and hide his weaknesses and that’s what they did in both the San Francisco and Atlanta games for Kolb. Unfortunately, Kolb’s weaknesses were exposed in the Tennessee game.
Reid hasn’t ever come out and explained why he benched Kolb and made Michael Vick the team’s starting quarterback, but you know he had a reason. He didn’t do it, just to be doing it.
Reid could have pointed at Kolb’s arm strength weaknesses but he refused to do so. I also don’t think Kolb responds to being hit. Notice how his plays goes south once he’s sacked. He loses his accuracy once he is hit a few times. McNabb has shown over the years that he can take a pounding and still find a way to beat you. I don’t see that in Kolb.
After benching Kolb Reid sat in the Nova Care Complex auditorium and had the local sports media personally attack him for benching Kolb, but he still refused to point the finger at any of Kolb’s weaknesses. Reid showed again that he’s willing to take the hit for his players.
I think Kolb’s lack of arm strength and inability to make the throws with pressure in his face, along with Vick superb play forced Reid to make a change.
Vick has shown he can throw the ball sixty yards off his back foot with a simple flick of the wrist and he can make accurate throws under pressure. After the locker room saw Vick’s ability in a game, Reid had no choice but to make him the starter.
Notice that Reid has never come out and specified why he made the change to Vick. He refused to identify Kolb’s weaknesses, but you know he made the decision after careful study.
Yes, Kolb can be accurate with a clear pocket. He also can get the ball downfield to DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin, if he’s got great blocking, and if he can throw the ball early before the receiver gets past the fifty-yard mark.
Notice that in the Atlanta game, Kolb hit Jackson on the post route from 34 yard line. On the long throw to Maclin, the Eagles were able to trick the Falcons secondary, so that Kolb’s throw to Maclin was a little over 40 yards.
It was brilliant game-planning but what happens when teams have the time to study a quarterback’s strengths and weaknesses. What happens when the wind is blowing? What happens when a wide receiver gets open deep, but he’s downfield some fifty or sixty yards?
There’s no way Kolb can throw the ball fifty or sixty yards with some zip on it. He surely can’t make deep throws into any type of wind. Notice how all of his deep passes hung in the air in the Titan’s game.
The long pass on the flee flicker should have been an interception, but Riley Cooper came back and took it from the defender. That was only a 37-yard throw to Cooper.
The underthrow to Maclin that could have been a touchdown, just hung up in the air. The interception which ended the game, seemed like it hung up in the air for a minute.
What about that throw to Jackson on the corner route in the Washington game? It just hung up in the air and couldn’t get there.
I think Reid thought about the windy weather in New York and the way the wind kicks up at the Lincoln Financial Field late in the season, when he made Vick the starter.
In retrospect, I think the Eagles made a mistake in trading Donovan McNabb because his ability to throw the ball deep fits this wide receiver group. Vick is able to get the ball deep to these guys, but Kolb can’t get it to them on a regular basis unless all the conditions are ideal.
Teams will learn that they don’t have to worry about Kolb getting the ball deep to Jackson if he’s more than fifty yards downfield.
I think Reid and the Eagles took too long to realize that they had put together a quarterback with a receiver group that didn’t match.
I’ve said all along that you have to watch what Reid and the Eagles do rather than what they say, in order to find out the truth.
G that is his job. I STILL disagree with what you are saying about covering for two minute drill becasue the Eagles STILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT and McNabb is GONE! How soon we forget the play in the Washington game AGAINST McNabb! A coaches job is to maximize the talent you have, and get the most out of your players. Can you say Andy does that all the time well??? NO! Why force Brandon Graham inside to play tackle right now when he is still learning how to be a professional pass rusher? Why bounce Kolb in and out of the game for Vick in those wildcat plays? Why in the Super Bowl put MATT WARE! Who barely played at all during the entire season in the game on Deon Branch? Is that covering up a weakness??? It sounds good..but in reality..its not the case, he is a good coach, but he is definatley not a mastermind of covering up weaknesses. See Hank Fraley in the super Bowl when Seymour undressed him, or for that matter, Winston Justice vs the Giants…..was that covering up weaknesses not giving him help to the tune of all those sacks?? I could go on and on with examples
Andy takes a better MEDIA approach when dealing with players, but he doesnt do them any favors at times when it comes to game plan and “IN GAME” descision making. How about…”we dont beilieve in or value Wide Recievers or Linebackers in our system” ….HHHMMMM! For five years i guess that helped cover up some of Donovans issues, that helped him a million, when recivers that were starting for us, once they left were either out of the league or 4th string(Thrash).
wilcher, with all due respect, do you realize you just compared 11 years to one drive? And suggested that it’s a legitimate comparison? High school kids who are capable of getting a C- in statistics know that that’s utter bullshit.
I’m not saying Kolb is a 2 minute drill master, or a great QB, or anything at all about him, but to compare the Eagles 11 year record in handling 2 minute drills, with 1 bad example of it this year, that’s just plain BS.
I’m not giving Andy Reid a pass. He’s made many mistakes over the years, which McNabb has never come out and gone after him for. Reid does come up with some good ideas for his offense prior to the game in order to utilize the strengths of players, but he’s not a good at making decisions during the game.
You’re right about Hank Fraley and Matt Ware and Winston Justice. Reid has definitely made his share of mistakes.
wilcher, who are you arguing against? Nobody is suggesting that all of Reid’s shortcomings and failures are absolved from this Shannahan thing. You are acting like the general consensus just became that Andy Reid is more perfect than jesus was. Not the case. It’ just one area of his performance and his coach press conferences that is being discussed – not his entire resume and scope of performance.
yo schiller…this article is a contiuation of the previous one. read that one buddy…tyvm..G Cobb understood what io was saying and that means i got my point across.
1st of all, hold off on the sarcasm and bullshit for one second, PLEASE. I’m gonna keep it real. Donovan’s situation in Washington is not his fault. Look at that offensive line! Its worse than ours! Now thats some shit. 2nd, look at the talent around Donovan. Hmm….Something certainly brings back memories to when Donovan had Todd Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell, and James Thrash as recievers. The only star on that offense besides Donovan is Santana Moss. So I think its unfair to judge Donovan and blame it all on him. You people never change. Yeah, he had Desean and Jeremy, but only had the both of them together for one year! Most great QB’s need a few years of chemisty with their wide recievers to get comfortable with them. Donovan has never had that. He had T.O. for a year and a half. He had Desean for 1 year with Kevin Curtis and Reggie Brown SMH. Then he got Jeremy Maclin the next year and that was his last year as an Eagle. When you look at guys like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees, these guys have had their core of recievers for a years, basically giving them time to build a chemistry and gain comfortability with them. Its not fair how Donovan has never been able to have that. Brady has had Moss and Welker for a few years. Brees has had Colston and Henderson for a few years. And Manning, Harrison, Wayne, Clark, Garcon, etc. So look at everything in the picture before you judge the man. Look at that Washington offense and be honest with yourselves. Who does Donovan have to throw to other than Moss that is talented? I know someone is gonna think of some reason to argue with me rather than agree with me, but I’m being real.
Also, I found out an important stat to kind of prove my theory about Kolb. I wouldn’t necessarily call the man accurate just because he had a 68% completion percentage. Why? you might ask…Well 27 of Kolb’s 97 completions have been checkdowns to McCoy. Thats 27.8% of his passes! So I dont think the numbers would have shown him as accurate if you takeaway the checkdowns.
So I never understood how someone could even debate Kolb being the starter a few weeks ago. It was just stupid. Not to mention, Vick hadnt thrown an INT in 96 attempts, whereas Kolb threw 4! The running game is also more effective with Vick as QB. How? Well with Vick in, the Eagles had 4 rushing TD’s in the redzone. With Kolb, Zero in 12 twelve trips to the redzone. So All you Kolb supporters, hopefully what I just proved will make you shut the fuck up and I wont have to hear about that bum for awhile!
Ladies and Gentleman, this has been Dizzy with GCOBB.COM. Have a great day! LOL
wilch, I read all that too. That doesn’t change my point or yours on this post one bit. You are saying Reid still has flaws. Garry agrees. I agree. Nobody disagrees with that. You are misunderstanding the point – it’s not that this news came out and all the sudden people think Andy is perfect – or ANYWHERE close to it. This has NOTHING – NOTHING AT ALL – to do with player/personel decisions – ala ‘not valuing the linebacker or WR position’. The only thing being discussed is how Reid covers for players in press conferences/media appearances and how the evidence is leaning towards McNabb being the main issue in the 2 minute drill department.
You’re stretching out the discussion of those two specific aspects of the Eagles performance over the past 11 years to discuss Reids OVERALL (that’s totally different) performance. And the evidence you offered to back up your point was comparing 11 years to less than 11 minutes.
And for the Record, Reid did fail miserably with the LB and WR positions for most of his time here (and by Reid, you should also look at Jim Johnson and Tom Heckert who also had input on drafting and free agents)… BUT – if he didn’t “Value” those positions (that’s utter bullshit) – than why did he spend big money on Kirkland, Nate Wayne, Sean Barber, Carlos Emmons, Trotter, Spikes, Witherspoon, and high draft picks on guys like McCoy. Now – a lot of those players played poorly, and you can say they were mistakes in terms of picking good ones, but to say he didn’t value them in the system is bullshit – he just did poorly in picking good ones – that’s different.
Same goes for WR – high picks on Reggie Brown, Pinkston, Mitchell, big money on Freeman, Owens (HELLO!?), Curtis, and now the top 4 WRs on the team….. again – he made some mistakes, but to say he didn’t ‘value’ the position or thought it wasn’t important, utter BS.
Schiller..he DIDNT spend big money on Trotter! Thats why he LEFT! and ewe had Levan Kirkland in 2002 playinmg middle LB and Jeraviscious is still running! or Carlos Emmons thats why he was a Giant and we still cant cover a tight end…Pinkston? Reggie Brown? Antonio Freeman?..big money? did you have some Irish Coffee this morning? How is it bs WHEN HE SAID IT OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH!..LMAO!….Dont argue with me…argue with ANDY and JOE BANNER!!!..LMAO…and the two minute drill is STILL NOT FIXED HERE!..Thats the point! You just threw a whole lot of crap on the wall hoping something stuck…psssh,,,,other than owens, shaun barber (who they had for ONE YEAR cause they came out and said they dont pay big money for LBS), Trotter cause the let go, you named BUMS!!! NATE WAYNE??? MATT MCCOY?? ARE YOU SERIOUS BUDDY?
I named contracts and draft picks they spent trying to find good players. But you’re still missing the point of these (two – as you mentioned the last one) articles. The point isn’t – “let’s talk about Reid’s coaching resume as a whole”. The point is that Donovan may have conditioning issues, chronic problems handling terminology and executing the 2 minute offense, and Reid seems to have covered up these issues, perhaps explaining some of the issues that Reid took the hit on for many years.
You took that as an opportunity to air out your (IRRELEVANT) beefs with Reid.
And again – you point out 1 – 1 goodamnit – example of a failed 2 minute drill this season. That proves NOTHING. NADA. ZILCH. Payton Manning threw 1 interception this season – is he a terrible QB? Adrian Peterson fumbled – is he a terrible RB? No – so one example doesn’t prove a point – DO YOU GET THAT?
The only thing that I’m worried about is how over the next few weeks Reid is going to have to cover for a low completion %, a couple of fumbles, and generally poor QB play.
Potentially at least. 🙂
Dizzy
Pats Superbowl I: WR Brown and Patten, TE Wiggens, RB A Smith
Superbowl II: WRs Deion Branch, Troy Brown, TE D Graham, RB A Smith (3 of 4 new guys)
Superbowl III: WRs and TE same, RB DIllon
Superbowl iV Wrs Moss and Welker, TE Brady, RB Maroney
I guess mini-faulk was there the whole time, but I don’t really see “core” guys for years and years. And other than Moss (unless he goes totally nuts) I don’t see any superstars on that list.
Wilcher.
You should get that CAPS LOCK thing fixed. Yours seems to stick a lot. You should be able to pick up a new keyboard for under $25 at Best Buy or something.
A pretty shaky source from the Utah/Idaho/BYU Region, just informed me that Coach AR was so tired of Covering up for RB/Return-man R Mahe inadequacies, that Coach AR just decided that it would be easier if he just ate him whole..
( I am still trying to get a 2nd source to verify..has anyone seend Reno Mahe lately… just sayin…)
@ Schiller….i understood the point of what G was trying to say, you threw out abunch of bums to make your agrument, not me, i was just pointing out that you were an idiot..lmao…hey vinnie, you forgot to list the defensive players…because Reid and Banner said “WR’s or LINEBACKERS!!!”…oops, theres that caps lock again. How many superstars were on that side of the ball genius? How many times did we get burned because of lack of playmakers on defense in big games? Every TIME!…so while your making your neat little list with Man Law violation smiley faces make sure you list the HOF linebackers on those teams…pssssh!
@vinnie
still trying to take your shots at Vick huh? Stop it already, Vick is the starting QB for the Eagles! Kolb is done! Considering your issues with Vick, you may want to find another NFL team, the Vick ERA has just begun and there is no end in sight!
FYI – New Englands 2001 SB- Brown had over 100 catches that season and 1100 plus yards…I think its safe to say he had a great year…He had to run the routes and catch the ball…Brady can’t get all of the credit…A Smith ran for over 1100 yards with 12 TDs…..The Oline had to block for him, brady really doesn’t have much to do with the running game! Not too mention the other people that made contributions…Again, same shit, blame the whole team on a lost, but congratulate one player on a victory! Especially a victory as big as winning a SB? your comment is disrespectful to the NE Patriots SB team as well as the teams that competed against them that season!
LETS GO VICK! Lets go Eagles!
wilch, get over the past. That’s all I gotta say. Clearly, you haven’t.
G,
There are a number details unknown to readers and the last two articles you posted while eliciting responses because you are critical of Mcnabb leave out some details.
First, Shanahan is lying about the two minute terminology. That’s been a huge point of discussion here in DC and is evidenced by the fact the story keeps changing. Many of the fans in DC are not questioning Mcnabb so much as they are questioning the Shanahans. Bear with me for a second and follow the chain of events. First are the personnel moves. They want to run a high octane system, but do not bring in high octane receivers. They bring in an old Joey Galloway and Anthony Armstrong, who was playing in the IFL. Both of these are small and not physical. In addition, they have Santana Moss who is also small and whose playmaking days are behind him. There have been receivers available since Spring, TJ, Moss, Vincent Jackson via trade, Stallworth. They cut their young, big, fast, promising receivers for has beens and unproven receivers. They have center that does not block anyone (sound familiar, Hank Fraley anyone?) and the rest of the line has been a sieve. They can’t block for the run and have no-name guy running the football and attempting to pick up the blitz. By the way, all of these working parts are trying to learn the system like the QB. We know the QB, like him or not, has been far more accomplished than any of the moving parts I just named, but he is taking the blame for why this is not working.
Conventional logic in DC is that McNabb has made the most out of the situation and that they would not even be 4-4 if anyone else Brady, Manning was the QB because there is no line and no skill position players that threaten defenses. McNabb has gotten killed behind this line all season and has still made enough big plays to keep the “Skins competitive. The fans in DC recognize this and see the difference, especially in comparison to the team play they have witnessed over the last 10+ years.
On top of that, Kyle Shanahan is green as a coordinator. His opening drives are fine but he makes no in-game adjustments and the offense stalls and
G Cobb
I think you just want to start controversy. First, suggesting McNabb is dumber than a bag of hammers and Reid somehow covered this up for 11 years and to balance it out You now write Reid covers up your perceived weaknesses of Kolb.
his QB takes a beating but he never changes protections or scheme to take advantage of the defense’s adjustments. Also, the scuttlebut in DC is that he and Grossman are tight and that he has politicked for him from the beginning. The Shanahans intimated that another QB may be better suited to the run the system, but the problem is no QB can run system well with limited skill players and a porous O-line. When Grossman went in the game and got hammered it was game, set and match for McNabb because it became clear that there were other areas of the team that were lacking and that McNabb’s mobiility and big arm were hiding. It became evident that given the choice of throwing Kyle under the bus or McNabb it was easier to throw Mcnabb and protect Kyle. Apparently the events on Sunday were the culmination of some fallout earlier in the week when Kyle and McNabb had a huge blow-up and Mike sided with Kyle. Go figure. So there is more to this than what is being put out there. I agree that McNabb could be better, but he is fighting with arm behind his back. Many of the DC fans see this and appreciate how hard McNabb is fighting and the duress he is under. Given that and the way Shananhan has handled the Haynesworth matter people in DC are giving McNabb the benefit of the doubt. Sorry to disappoint the haters.
Listen Vinnie, it doesnt even matter. Look at the Patriots Coaching staff…which was/is superior to all/most in the league. Brady’s lack of recievers didn’t even matter because the plays put together were genius. And he had been with Troy Brown for a number of years. Dillon ran the ball effectively during his stay with the Patriots too, if you dont recall. You cant downgrade Donovan…Like I said, look at the talent around him. If it was Brady or Manning on that Washington team, they too would probably throw a ton of INTS and not be as effective. That line is horrible. And i thought ours was bad. SMH. And Ryan Torrain is not a star RB, Portis is ineffective, and the only reliable weapon Donovan has is Santana. So what you gotta say now?
From his posting, looks like Dizzy covers for Donovan even more than Reid.
Is there ANYTHING that Donovan should take responsibility, in your view??
The guy was an above average qb for the Eagles for over a decade and was able to lead them to wins in a majority of his games, but he did have flaws in his game also. By making such blanket statements in support of him you force others to be equally negative to make their point.
How can it always be someone else’s fault?
Realtalk, you’re either misreading or misinterpreting.
I was replying to Dizzys statement about how the Brady had years and years to work with the same WRs while McNabb never got that chance. I was just pointing out the turnover on the NE team year after year. He had new guys step in and they didn’t miss a beat.
If you want to argure the T Brown, Branch, Pattern etc were better than Thrash, Pink, Mitchell etc, thats a completely different arguement. And I may agree to that point.
I’m just bringing up that some of you guys make these blanketing statements like, “McNabb never got the chance to work with anyone consistently, and Brady did” when the reality is they had basically the same kind of turnover. Did you see Manning last night? New TE, New 3rd string RB, missing a #2 WR….didn’t change much.
McNabb is in a terrible situation in Wsh that’s for sure. But he was in a pretty great situation at last year’s probowl when he went 3 of 10 with a pick 6, (called back) another pick and several other balls on the hands of the opposition. No pass rush. Guys wide open. McNabb is in a terrible place right now, but that doesn’t absolve his troubles. He’s done I think.
Dizzy, you can’t be serious saying that Manning and Brady would also fail with the Skins, given that both are two of the best QBs of all time and a bazillion times better than McNabb ever was or ever will be. McNabb is just not that good anymore. He’s still throwing balls at people’s feet which is what he did for his entire tenure in Philly. Even his deep ball this year has not been good. He’s an average QB at best at this point in his career. I salute the front office for actually getting this one right and trading McNabb.
hahah good ol matt ware
hey he won a gm for us with a blocked fg lol
wait so btc
ur gonna say manning and brady would be balln in wash
i guess no1 knows the answer but i will venture to say they wont be doing what they r doing now with their respective teams
and would skins have a better record maybe by a gm or so maybe not
I didn’t say they’d be “ballin” but I guarantee they win that game last week and also the Colts game. McNabb just isn’t that good. Why can’t you guys just admit it? Look at what Manning is doing with hardly any talent on offense right now and a very mediocre defense. He’s turned guys like Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon into stars because of how good he is; not the other way around. The three Superbowls Brady won were all done with little star power on offense. Once he got Moss and Welker, you saw the numbers he put up the year they went 16-0.
I didn’t say he’d be “ballin” but I guarantee they win that game last week against Detroit and also the Colts game. McNabb just isn’t that good. Why can’t you guys just admit it? Look at what Manning is doing with hardly any talent on offense right now and a very mediocre defense. He’s turned guys like Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon into stars because of how good he is; not the other way around. The three Superbowls Brady won were all done with little star power on offense. Once he got Moss and Welker, you saw the numbers he put up the year they went 16-0.
@Wilcher… you struck some chords today… I like that you made great points. You even had G interject in the middle of the Blog. Most QBs are a product of their system and stability is #1. How QBs can go somewhere else and be great. If you’ve been a plumber for 11 years and then have to go learn to be a carpenter and be great at it, it’s hard to do. I’ll even take it to the coaching level, how many coaches were great at each coaching stop. Belicheck sucked at his previous job, now he’s considered a genious. You cannot turn AI into a true PG in a year, maybe never. Most QBs are system guys, you put them in the right system they succeed, you put them in a bad system they fail. It has nothing to do with their inteligence or cardio…cop out. BTW, name 3 homeruns that Andy has hit in Free Agency. I will give Andy credit though, he could be my supervisor any day, that guy covers for his people.
This is rubbish G. Whether or not Andy covers for his players is a complete non-factor. It is a coaches job. The people who read your site and the fans who matter sit down to 4 quarters of Eagles football each week. We witness the weaknesses first hand and can identify them clearly on our own, in live game action, when it matters. We don’t need Andy to come out and spill his guts about how Kolb’s limited strengths don’t fit into the explosive offense we’ve spent a decade lazily building, we’ve seen him underthrow/checkdown/not even give a look towards fast, wide open, deep receivers plenty of times by now. How Reid handles the media is merely an afterthought. You’re severely over-analyzing something you heard out of Shanahans mouth (really?) to dig into the past and point a finger in these past two articles. Enough of this nonsense, its Eagles season…. Let’s get back to it.
To Chuck Rob,
3 Home-Runs in Free-Agency in Paulman’s opinion
RT J Runyan, CB A Samuel and maybe FB L Weaver (if he didn’t get hurt)
Some Busts in Free-Agency
WR T Owens, OL Stacey Andrews, DE J Kearse, TE K Wilson, RB M Bell , DT M Reagor, S B Bishop, S Sean Jones
Some average pick-ups during Free-Agency
WR K Curtis, DL D Howard , TE A Smith , DE J Babin (if he was given more time)
Overall, their have been a lot more misses and stretches than hits which is why many teams don’t get ti involved with Free-Agency and rather buikd thru the Draft (like the Pats/Colts/Steelers/Giants)
Yes Kevin kolb’s toughness is in question…… Vick is a warrior…… And he has a strong will to win and be a better QB. AR needs to take a look in the mirror and just say to him self “that i’m not perfect I fucked up and I need to focus on stop defending players that dont have the skill to play”! A lot of these andy reid “projects” have gone down south, the Chris Gocongs and Matt McCoy, and now “his guy” who he’s been looking at for years playing at Houston KK! Yes he’s a man who covers his players asses but who’s going to cover for him when he gets canned right along with his Long time buddy Brad Childress!!!! I know Kolb is not too happy with Andy’s decision! Who would you have at Qb leading your troops: Rambo or Paulie Shore (in the army now)!
and laurie covers for him. ugh…. come on G…. stop this crap.
oops.. my bad G. I had not read what you wrote till after a commented on your title. This was actually very weel written. I wish however that this team (coaches, players, lawers) would not boast about the team in the preseason. I think they should be like andy and say nothing.
well…lol. My comment was not written “weel”. yikes.
I can name quite a few eagle draft picks that were horrible! Dexter wynn, C.J. Gaddis, Matt Ware,Q. Demps, Matt Mccoy,Freddie Mitchell,bum ass Billy Mcmullen, Keith Adams etc. i can go on and on. The eagles FO in the past and present has made poor decisions in picking up players from draft,trade,and Free agent! EVERY TEAM HAS!
@ Chuck Rob…exactly! I will always say that they did not win the Tampa year, not because of McNabb’s play, but because they let Trotter walk away in the prime of his career to play meaningless time in Washington!!! They signed old ass Levan Kirkland and older ass Blaine Bishop WHO WERE BOTH COOKED! That’s why we lost. Donovan is in a tough position just like Brett Farve was with the Jets! How soon we forget how many games in a row he lost that season, was he benched???..hmmmm!
Trying to teach an old dog new tricks. At this point of their career veteran QB’s rely on their grasp of the system and the proper reads to compensate for what they lost in atheletic ability. Donovan cannot do that because he is still learning the system termanology and the differences between how Andy did things and how Mike wants them done, Its probably even MORE confusing because it looks familiar to him, but its a totally different philosophy. Add to it the fact that the offensive line and skill players stink and you have a mix for disaster. Watching the games, i think the problem lies more with Kyle Shanahan, the OC, but because its daddys boy, McNabb gets the blame. This offense does not look anything like the one in Denver, or Houston for that matter.
Paulman’s Early Predictions on Coaching moves after the 2010 Season
Team Fired Coach New Hire Coach
Cowboys – Wade Phillips Bob Stoops (from University of Oklahoma)
Vikings – Brad Childress Leslie Frazier (Current D/Coordinator with a very bright future)
Panthers – John Fox Bill Cowher
Bengals – Marvin Lewis John Fox
Browns – Eric Mangini Marty Mohrnewig
That’s it for now…
I believe T Dungy, J Gruden both receive offers,but enjoy their TV COmmentators Jobs and don’t want to return to coaching anytime soon. I think Dungy is retired for good, but do think that Gruden would accept a high profile coach for the right franchise and for the right money (maybe the Eagles in 2012 after the AR era ends)
I think Andy just started “protecting” McNabb a couple of years ago to be honest. McNabb was a TOP caliber QB in the league until 2007. We saw the fluidity the offense was in when Jeff Garcia took over after McNabb went what? 5-5? 5-4? to start the season? We were up and down that year as well….Garcia came in and the offense had NEW life once again. 2007 forward, under McNabb, the offense had no consistency. He was on the downward slope from 2007 forward and the fans, knowledgable ones at least, noticed.
I will be honest BOB
I think McNabb started to slip once Campbells Soup refused to re-sign him and his Mother to their new
Soup Campaign around the 2007 Season.. He should have jumped on that Ski Equipment Company after that for it’s really been “downhill” since about that time…
If this is anywhere near true ….. from Mike and Mike show on ESPN radio this morning. “One of the things that drove them crazy in Philadelphia was the lack of tempo at which [McNabb] practiced … It was always something where you’re leaving the quarterback meeting and it would be, ‘Hey, listen, the head man wants a little more tempo today.’ Nearly every single day. That’s been the deal with Donovan McNabb. I know exactly what Mike Shanahan is talking about.”
Personally I am truly surprised that none of this came out when the big debate was going on at the end of the year last year… At least in games, he looks (depending on who’s side you are on …) like he is having a great time OR appears very lackadaisical. Maybe that is just him, who knows.
Man that JB2 post was on point. Are you the real JB. I live in DC as well and I thought the same way. Shanahan is another washed up Coach… I refuse to fight this McNabb battle, it will always be an either for or against. I’m for Donnie Mc. He’s not perfect, but who is. I’m totally unboard with Vick now… Go Get em Mike.
Kolb’s main mistake is throwing long into double and triple coverage
NFL QBs throw short on long passes when there is single coverage and their receivers make adjustments–
That 80 yarder by Collins to Britt was short but he adjusted his route and the Eagle defender didn’t
My stance remains the same. When Reid runs a more balanced offense, his QBs have a much better chance to succeed. Reid changed when Garcia was the QB. He also did the same with Kolb. In fact, with Kolb he actually ran the ball more than he passed it (until the 2nd half of the Titans game).
With McNabb, Reid flirted with 70% passing, despite having less-than-average receivers. No QB could succeed under those conditions. It’s very difficult to do anything when you’re worried about your next injury.
I just hope he doesn’t get pass-happy again because he has Vick under center. If he stays under 60% passing, I think Vick will succeed. If Reid passes more than 60% of the time, I foresee another Vick injury.
RCP
Are you saying that Kolb overthrows the deep routes?
Heb badly under-threw passes against the Titans. The TD to Cooper was under-thrown and into double coverage, but Cooper came back on the ball and split the two defenders to make the reception.
Kolb also under-threw Celek and Maclin several times.
I hate it when people try to weigh in on a debate yet don’t have their facts straightened out.
DRUMMERWINSLOW — Cooper didn’t score a TD on that “under-thrown” ball that was caught in the wind, he came back to it and made the catch, but it wasn’t a TD. They scored a TD together a couple plays later. Stop watching the dots on ESPN.com and actually watch the game sometime.
Bird
My bad. I saw enough to know that Kolb under-threw the ball multiple times. Is that correct?
There’s no need to be sarcastic. I hate it when people act like tough guys anonymously. That’s the kind of stuff girls do.
Hey Birdbrain
Phi 3rd&5 Ten5 Kevin Kolb Pass to Riley Cooper for 5 yards for a TOUCHDOWN
What were you saying about weighing in without the facts?
I bet you feel like a penny asking for change.
IdiotWINSLOW, you stated that Cooper scored a TD on a ball that was UNDER THROWN. NO, he did NOT. Did you even watch the game? Are you even an Eagles fan? Did I not just state that they DID connect on a TD but that was a couple plays AFTER Kolbs underthrow.
Now, how do you feel dumbass?
Your mother’s an idiot!
I made a mistake. It happens. My point is still valid. There’s no need to talk tough. I’ve never disrespected you.
If you feel the need to talk tough, you should do so so face-to-face. Otherwise, quit acting like a girl.
Kolb underthrew receivers multiple times. Even the 37-yard completion to Cooper (the only Bomb completion) was severely underthrown, but the Eagles’ rookie made a great play on the ball.