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The Eagles Secondary Is Stepping Up

The Eagles secondary might just be the most disrespected unit on the team.

When the Eagles secondary took the field last Monday against the Redskins, 3  of the 4 starters were not drafted out of college. Only Asante Samuel, who  was drafted in the 4th round, was a house hold name.

Survey the fans, and they will tell you that the secondary is the thing that scares them the most about this team. But take a closer look at the numbers, and it becomes far less frightening.

The Eagles are giving up 221 yards a game through the air, good for 16th in the league. They have given up less through the air then the Pittsburgh Steelers and New England Patriots. So while that number is respectable, it definitely is not where you want to see it. But that number is also a little misleading.

Of the almost 2,000 passing yards the Eagles have given up through 9 games, over 500 of those have been to the tight end- a position primarily covered by the tight end. Or in the Eagles case, a position covered by Stewart Bradley waiving his arms and not turning his head around to see the ball.

If you subtract the yards gained by tight ends, the Eagles secondary is giving up 161 passing yards a game. In this pass happy league, where wide receivers are allowed to roam free and untouched, that is a very respectable number- especially when you consider this unit has faced Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan.

The secondary is also producing turnovers, intercepting the ball 16 times this seasons, tops in the league this season. The Eagles have gotten zero interceptions from any of their line backers, despite having a LB unit that is small and quick- one you think could jump a route. That means all 16 have come from the secondary. The Eagles are also second in the league with 59 pass deflection. This shows that their corners and safeties are in the right position to make a play, and consistently with their man.

Couple that with Michael Vick’s ability to not turn the ball over, and the Eagles have a turnover ratio of +12. That is a sign of a good football team, and unit.

Many people called for Asante Samuel to focus on tackling more this season. He has 21 combined tackle so far, more then his starting counterpart Ellis Hobbs. While he still has a long way to go in the area, he is at least showing that he is willing to stick his head in their this season, which is more then you could say in past ones.

The Eagles have had players step in when they needed to. In fact, other then Ellis Hobbs, no player in the unit has been a liability this season. Dmitri Patterson has played phenomenal in Hobbs absence, and Kurt Coleman has held his own while Nate Allen has been out. Allen also has played well, minus a few plays against the Tennessee Titans.

The Eagles secondary will face another test this week, then they will be given the challenge of covering Hakeem Nicks, who will give them trouble with his size and physical play. But overall, the Eagles have managed to find players that no one else wanted and turn them into one of the better secondaries in the league- and one that is helping, not hurting this team.

Eliot Shorr-Parks

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BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
November 18, 2010 12:45 pm

Good article Elliot. I didn’t know we were tops in the league in INT’s and second in pass deflects (due to being lazy and not looking it up) — so thanks for the information. Our secondary has definitely been fantastic. The defense as a whole, aside from the Lions game, has been impressive.

KTDawk
KTDawk
November 18, 2010 12:53 pm

3 out of 4 weren’t drafted??? not sure who you are talking about, but kurt coleman was drafted (7th rd) and our normal starter was a 2nd round pick.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
November 18, 2010 12:54 pm

The secondary has played well the last couple games but we aren’t that far removed from the Titans game either. So I don’t think it’s strange that people still have concerns. They have to keep on doing it. You don’t just get full confidence after 2 games. You just don’t. So I agree they have been playing well lately but they have to keep it up before people put their full confidence in them. I don’t care what anyone says they are still prone to giving up big plays and that’s what scares some people because you aren’t going to blow everyone out and giving up a deep pass to a guy like Fred Davis could be the difference between winning a losing. We’re one injury away from having Ellis Hobbs starting again. And we have to see if Nate Allen can rebound. So if I HAD to pick 1 unit on the entire team that I still have some concerns with it would be the secondary.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
November 18, 2010 1:01 pm

Scorp — what concerns me is that I knew the Skins were going to try that roll out right back pass to Fred Davis again (after he was left so wide open in the first meeting) and the Eagles STILL didn’t stop it. If I knew they were going to try it, I’m sure the coaching staff/players knew they were going to try it didn’t they? Goodness gracious that play pissed me off. Just because I talked all week to a couple Redskin co-workers that the Skins were going to take a crack at it — that poor level of attention to detail can and WILL kill this team if we don’t tighten it up.

Paul Mancini
Paul Mancini
November 18, 2010 1:01 pm

Good Article Elliot,

I envision the future Secondary of the Eagles like this by 2012 (any maybe sooner)

Starting Safeties — Allen/Coleman
Starting CB’s — Sammuel/Patterson with Lindley as the Nickel back.

Off course there will be players added next year and Mickell will play for another season at least
but I think Hobbs/Hanson will be on the way out .

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 18, 2010 1:02 pm

Secondary has been stepping, my concern is the quick touchdowns given up in the 2nd quarter against the Skins is unnacceptable, regardless! Its the big plays that have hurt us this season…Even on running plays, the secondary hasn’t always come up and been able to make the stop.

What I’d really like to see is our special teams, have a nice return to setup the offense with good field position…seems like its been an eternity since I’ve seen the return team do something positive to impact the game! The last few games the special team defense has done a solid job, but they have slipped up in the past (in a few games) They need to be solid and not give NY a short field…

Paul Mancini
Paul Mancini
November 18, 2010 1:11 pm

Does anyone think Def/Secondary Coach D Jauron hasn’t made a positive difference with these players
He was a great hire and is paying off dividends in his 1st season with the Eagles..

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
November 18, 2010 1:17 pm

Does anyone think it’s a coincidence our secondary is better now that Hobb’s is not in the game?

And the running game is more stout with Bunkley on the sideline while Dixon is collapsing the middle. Why can’t the coaches see these jewels before they trot obvious holes out on the field?

There’s another beast named Howard who played well on the offensive line this preseason when given the chance, we’ll be asking why he didn’t play in a year our line was decimated.

daggolden
daggolden
November 18, 2010 1:41 pm

Coleman is just a PLAYMAKER. IMO, I just love the way Coleman plays. He is physical and hes a playmaker. Im not as high on Allen as others are. I think Allen is soft and plays 20 yards off the ball. Allen seems to react to everything while Coleman makes things happen. Coleman comes up and can hit. Hes just always around the ball. The moment isnt to big for him. Will he make mistakes like of course. Hes got a Philly thing about him. He has a little Dawkins in him. I was seeing the same thing last year with Dixon. .

Paul Mancini
Paul Mancini
November 18, 2010 1:41 pm

Starting O/Line for 2011

LT Peters, LG Herremans, C McGlynn, RG W Justice, RT A Howard

Back-ups will be K Dunalp,MJG,J Jackson and 2 draft picks

Paul Mancini
Paul Mancini
November 18, 2010 1:46 pm

To Birdo
If you get a chance to watch replays on big pass play to TE F Davis.
Bradley saw it coming and got hit by Davis and then tell down, it’s the only reason that Davis was so open,the guy in coverage responsible for him simply fell down so it wasn’t like the Eagles D was caught surprised or with their pants down, Bradley fell and his man became open.. it happens…

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
November 18, 2010 1:50 pm

Agreed Paul and at the same time Bradley shouldn’t be left covering TE down the field. So I’m sure if was McDermott thinking we can take that kind of risk since we were winning by so much. It’s not just that one play. These guys can get beat. Asante is close to a genius defending intermediate routes but he can get beat. Mikell can be caught out of position at times too. I agree on that one play but these guys are prone to giving up the big play.

erock
erock
November 18, 2010 3:00 pm

Patterson has some skills…young guy with a good attitude and grit. Could see him as the starter next year.

Does anyone else have this sense when they watch Vick that everything is gonna go our way?

5 was the man and i dont wanna get into baching the dude. He gave us a buncha great years and football memorys..some bad.But it was always like we were waiting for a mistake….a off target crucial throw.With Mike…its $..and i know it.

jroc757
jroc757
November 18, 2010 3:01 pm

Man…. This season thus far Hanson has stepped it up…… I can admit when im wrong on that…… i think with the addition of Dick Juron….. He’s got these guys on a TURNOVER mission…… I’ve looked closely at games and see that Asante hasn’t been too aggressive with jumping routes….. Which is good……. Sheldon Brown was good with the Eagles but lacked speed and to me he looked more of a safety size more than a corner……..(Scary against a speedy receiver)…… With Curt Colemen who can play both sides….. He can put fear into receivers and Te’s….. And with Nate Allen he can create a Turnover……. This secondary is looking good… Better than last year…. But the thing is that it all starts up front and thats what the eagles FO focused on early this season…………….!!!!!

jroc757
jroc757
November 18, 2010 3:07 pm

!@Erock….. I feel you bro!!! With Mcnabb he was more of a thinker……. With Vick it just looks so natural……. He doesn’t try to do to much is what Im saying…… Mcnabb looked more hesitant……. Yea we’ve seen Mcnabb have a good stretch of games….. But then another game the birds look like the King of 3 and outs on offense…… LOL!!! I got much love for D-mac……. But he looked more like he wanted to play for stats more than the win……. Thats my opinion……………

jroc757
jroc757
November 18, 2010 3:11 pm

NO dis-respect Mcnabb is like Randall Cunningham who I loved growing up as a kid…… It hurt me to see him go to the Vikings and just ball out of his mind with them….. When he got older we all saw his skills fade away…….. It’s like I see it now with Mcnabb!!!!

Paul Mancini
Paul Mancini
November 18, 2010 3:23 pm

McNabb’s toast and will be out of the NFL by 2012,
He just doesn”t decipher defenses and coverages quick enough (he never really has mastered that skill even during his prime) If he doesn’t have time to throw the deep ball and have WR’s who can get deep and catch the ball, then he basically is a bottom 12 NFL Starter anymore.
It’s a shame, he was, is still is a warrior, but he is simply a below average QB in the NFL behind the likes of D Garrard,M Cassel,R Fitzpatrick, and probably more on par with QB’s like V Young, D Anderson, J Campbell, C Palmer, Cutler, Hassleback
But to say he is in the same league as top QB’s like the Mannings,Brady,Brees,Rivers,Vick,Flacco,Big Ben,Rodgers,Ryan,Schaub, even K Orton is a stretch…

jroc757
jroc757
November 18, 2010 3:24 pm

You know whats funny!!!! I was at a bar with a friend of mine a while back and I had on my Mcnabb jersey you know “representin” and A guy comes up and says…..”OH no we got a Eagles fan here”, he said I, “hate the EAGLES”, I told him “I hate your ass too”! He was like “Wooooooo WOOOO buddy it’s just a game”! I dont care that the fact he didnt know me and said that….. It’s the fact he disrespected the Eagles! LOL am I crazy or what……… I dont care what anybody has to think about that….. But it’s just the passion for the team………

jroc757
jroc757
November 18, 2010 3:31 pm

To PM, They say the older the Qb’s get the more seasoned they are which is true to an extent! I agree with what your saying and I beleive the rest of the season is really a big decision on if Mcnabb stays or goes….. He was great the 11years here…… I saw that Pro bowl game last year and when Mcnabb came in to play he looked HORRIBLE!!! The AFC defense were not even playing that aggressive but alot of the throws were pitch and catch and he missed receivers terribly!!!! I know it’s short timing with other players but simple slants and posts routes should be completed with no problem…….

phillywill
phillywill
November 18, 2010 3:41 pm

whatever pman lol
u die for these days to say this about certain athletes
i find it funny
but to rekindle ur memory
u also said vick was done awhile back so i guess u saying this means nothing
no news here

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
November 18, 2010 3:58 pm

Paulman is the same guy who said that Vick wasn’t a starting NFL QB. Anyhow, while I do agree that McNabb is on the downside of his career but like ANY older QB he just needs to go to the right situation. Some people still ignore the facts of being in one system for 11 years and then going to a new one with no good skilled players, new coaches, new team and bad offensive line and then put out dumb statements. At this point in his career (and even for the last 3-4) he needs quality talent around him. This is not pre-2005 McNabb that could put a team on his back. But there aren’t many QBs in the league that would be able to do that as well in the same circumstances. It wasn’t that long ago that he was the quarterback of this team setting franchise offensive records. Listening to some of you guys, you’d think he’d was just as bad last year and the year before that. Seriously, please show some football knowledge.

erock
erock
November 18, 2010 3:59 pm

Jroc…i feel that passion. Realness recognizes realness.

Havent we learned by now Paulmandomis predicts everything so eventually he’s right about something.

I predict that tomorrow in the D-valley there will be sunshine..maybe some showers..eventually it will be clear…possible winds. And we all will have too go too work with some vacation time sprinkled in there.

Paul Mancini
Paul Mancini
November 18, 2010 3:59 pm

Yes I did on Vick since he couldn’t beat out Kolb in Pre-Season where neither QB looked all that good..
Let’s be honest, Vick is playing the best QB of his life right now and has played a high level since the
Week #2 or #3, but anyone who says they saw this coming is a liar… So yes, I am enjoying the Vick Express because I am an Eagle fan first and I will jump on board with which players give the Eagles the best chance to Win and I’ve said since week #3 that I think that Vick as the Starter gives the Eagles the best chance to win which was obvious then as it is obvious now.
I don’t believe many people who follow football, outside of the Eagles Coaching Staff, would have ever thought that Vick would become the typwe of Pocket QB that he has been this year.. He’s never demonstrated in the past and whether he had poor coaching,poor talent,poor work habits in the past. The reality is, that Vick’s history showed him to be a runner first before a pocket QB.. Now that he has fully matured into a Pocket Passer first who can happen to run when things go bad, it’s awesome to see.. and I am sure glad he’s on the Eagles and playing well, but for anyone who wants to say I told you so, I told you Vick would lead the league in Passing Efficiency and have Zero Turnovers is a bunch of nonsense.. Let’s enjoy Vick’s ride as he has re-established himself as a true superstar in the NFL.

erock
erock
November 18, 2010 4:02 pm

SCORP TOLD EVERYONE….COME ON MANNNNN!!!

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
November 18, 2010 4:03 pm

How did Kurt Warner look when he had a bad offensive line and Marshall Faulk retired and Isaac Bruce and Torry Hold weren’t special receivers? He looked bad enough to be replaced. Then he goes to the Giants and looks worse. Well looky here, he goes to Arizona where they actually have great skilled players in Fitz, Boldin and James and now he’s an MVP candidate again. Favre was brutal as a Jet and came back as a Viking and played great. I’m pretty sure many people said these guys were done too well before they were actually done. Don’t get me wrong, McNabb is not either one of these guys but my point is that older QBs need a team around them. That’s nothing new and anyone can look at Washington and see McNabb has nothing to work with. They don’t even have a top defense anymore. Not sure what he’s supposed to do. I just don’t listen to folks who says someone is done when players prove time and time again they aren’t ESPECIALLY at the QB position. Jeff Garcia was “done” for a long time. Well in Philly some still talk about him like he won a Super Bowl well after his prime with the 49ers. So just stop it.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
November 18, 2010 4:07 pm

Paulman, no one saw this coming BUT you said he wasn’t even a starting QB when myself and several others said he would be a starter because the Michael Vick from last year was still better than half the starting QBs in the league. But you wasn’t trying to hear. Don’t try to justify you being totally wrong by the fact that Vick has exceeded expectations. Yes he has exceeded expectations but you were such a genius to declare him barely good enough to be in the league. So stop it please.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
November 18, 2010 4:11 pm

I thought I told all of y’all that Paulman’s predictions and opinions (that he tries to pass off as fact) are asinine.

Paul Mancini
Paul Mancini
November 18, 2010 4:17 pm

To Scorp,
2 Huge difference’s between Warner and McNabb..
Warner has always been very accuarte who could read defenses and coverages well.
McNabb is not very accurate and never have been able to read coverages and defenses very well

2nd Big Difference is that Warner has a Super Bowl Ring and McNabb doesn’t..

“Times Yours”

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
November 18, 2010 4:21 pm

LOL @ Birdo. Paulman’s stuff is entertainment most of the time but sometimes it just cracks me up when some are completely wrong and then try to justify it by saying “well, everyone else was wrong too”, while completely ignoring facts. Just funny stuff. Is it so hard just to say, “I was wrong”. Why do we have to qualify it by saying “I’m not the only one who thought this”. Anytime someone make bold predictions someone else is going to call them out on it and bring up their record for bold predictions. It’s just the fun thing to do. This may be why guys like schiller try to stay away from making predictions. Schiller goes out of his way sometimes to refute any conversation that involves talking about games in the future or future outcomes of situations. It’s actually quite comical, but because of this, he doesn’t come away looking like gcobb.com forum drunk.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
November 18, 2010 4:25 pm

Paul, just like I said…. McNabb isn’t either one of those QBs. My point, again (please read) was to point out that WHEN PEOPLE OFTEN MARK PLAYERS AS DONE ESPECIALLY THE QB POSITION, YOU HAVE A GOOD CHANCE AT BEING WRONG. Please understand the point before you respond. Again, if Mcnabb is put in a situation that has good skilled players and at least a decent offensive line, he’d be much better. If some want to stop being morons, McNabb would be having a much better year if he was still here. Surely not as good as Vick but nowhere as bad as what’s going on in DC. If anyone thinks otherwise, they clearly don’t know football.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
November 18, 2010 4:28 pm

You ignore the facts and make dumb predictions. This is a team sport. Please tell me what does McNabb have to work with down there? I’ll answer it, not much. If you switched Vick and McNabb, Vick would not have the same year that he is having now. He would probably be better than McNabb because at this point I think he’s a better QB and he would make stuff happen with his legs. But he wouldn’t have anyone to throw to either. A worse Oline than what we have and let’s not even talk about the atmosphere down there with all those immature players who do nothing but run their mouths and rebel against coaching. Please just stop it.

Paul Mancini
Paul Mancini
November 18, 2010 4:56 pm

The problem with McNabb is that he can’t use his legs to get out of trouble like he used to.
He was never that strong in reading defenses and coverages and in the Eagles System, the QB goes with the play that AR/MM Call, the Eagles don’t vary or change many plays based on the Defensive Formations.. Shannahan’s Offense is different and does call for adjustments and calls to be made at the line of scrimmage by the QB and McNabb,bottom line, is struggling to handle this which is the root of the real proble with him and the Shanahan’s.(and of course it doesn’t help that he doesn’t have a avery good O?Line or frontline WR’s but he didn’t for years in Philly either)
A bad match indeed with him and the Redskins and it’s McNabb’s & Redskins fault for that’s the team that McNabb gave his blessing to Coach AR to be traded to..It happened 7 months ago and as a 11 yaers Professional QB, he is still having a hard time picking up the offense/2 minute drill..
I am sorry, but I find that Inexscusable for a supposed Hall of Famer…
Didn’t J Montana play pretty good for KC Cheif after being traded from the 49ers,
Or D BRees from the Charges to the Saints or K Warner from the Rams,Giants to the Cardianals
or even Kyle Orton from the Bears to the Broncos…

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
November 18, 2010 5:07 pm

It must be really simple to make it to the pro bowl (6 times), Conference Championship and the Superbowl. I wonder why that doesn’t occur more frequently. Perhaps, McNabb did it because ALL of that talent he had around him. You don’t need to be able to read defenses to accomplish those things.. Any idiot can do the things he did. It’s a wonder none of us has ever done it.

Paul Mancini
Paul Mancini
November 18, 2010 5:09 pm

and yes,
I will admit that I was way wrong about VIck ever getting back to being a top flight QB in the NFL..
I didn’t think he had it in him, the discipline,work ethic, team first attitide, but obviously, I was way wrong.. I am happy for him and it proves once again and to me that I shouldn’t judge, what I don’t know, and none of us know what really goes on behind closed doors in in those meetings,practice sessions,film studies,the off-season,etc,etc.
So as of today, Paulman will suspend himself (with full pay and benifits of course) until a new article is posted..

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
November 18, 2010 5:11 pm

Fully agree. Which is why I said he needs to be in the right situation. Again, if he was in the same system with receivers like Jackson and Maclin, he’d be playing better. I think that’s a no brainer. So in my opinion he’s not done until I see him in a good situation and he still looks bad. That’s when a player is done. Many QBs will look horrible in the same situation. So you guys can judge prematurely. You certainly have that liberty. But until he is in an offense that he’s comfortable with and has good players a round him, I’ll refrain from making those kinds of predictions. Now if your predictions are based on the premise that he may never be in the right situation than he very well could be done BUT I won’t make that declaration until that happens and not while he is in his first year in a new system, garbage skilled players, terrible line and bad defense. I just won’t make that assertion. Under those circumstances many QBs would be classified as “done”. Anyhow, Paulman I already know of your idiotic biased that you had against McNabb that spilled over to Vick. So I’m done talking to you about it. Thanks anyway.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
November 18, 2010 5:15 pm

Of the countless hundreds of thousands of people who have ever donned a helmet and played the QB position in high school, college, various pro leagues, why have so few accomplished what McNabb did? And why does it pay so much. With salaries reaching 100 million, it would seem that anyone who had an inkling that they could accomplish what McNabb has would give their right arm for the opportunity to do it. Yet, somehow, McNabb’s records remain at the top of all QBs who have EVER played the game. Baffling, isn’t it?

xHorusx
xHorusx
November 18, 2010 5:18 pm

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drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
November 18, 2010 5:23 pm

Goodell ‘proud’ of Vick, sees example for overcoming obstacles
NFL.com Wire Reports

Michael Vick put an exclamation point on his comeback with his performance in Monday’s 59-28 win over the Redskins, and his resurgence has the entire league buzzing — including Commissioner Roger Goodell.

Can Giants stop Vick?

The Giants know they must be at their best Sunday night in Philadelphia or Michael Vickis going to make them look foolish in what has become a battle for first place in the NFC East. More …

In a Thursday interview with the Daily News, Goodell praised Vick, saying “There is a big message in what Michael is doing. He’s a superstar athlete who everyone thought had everything in the world. He fell from grace tragically by making some horrific mistakes, paid a significant price, worked his way back in and now he’s being successful.

“It demonstrates to me to get to these young men earlier and work with them and make them understand their responsibility making decisions that will define them for a period of time.”
The last time the commissioner spoke publicly about Vick was in August, when Goodell told Vick he would not face disciplinary action for a shooting at Vick’s 30th birthday party at nightclub in Virginia Beach, Va. While Vick had behaved like a model citizen on and off the field in his first season with the Eagles, a meeting between the two led to the agreement that “additional support measures” needed to be added.

“My main concerns were off the field,” Goodell told the Daily News on Thursday. “He’s done terrific off the field. I’m proud of how he has responded. There are so many examples in our society of failure, people falling short. We need more success stories. I’m hoping Michael Vick will be a success story. People need to see that. People need to be inspired by that — a person made a tragic error and he’s overcome it.”

“It’s a good lesson,” he added. “There is not anybody out there who has not made mistakes.”
Goodell told the Daily News that he and Vick keep in frequent contact by phone or by text message on matters ranging from “encouragement to guidance.”

“I let him know that I care and want him to succeed,” Goodell said. “He’s probably so much more satisfied and comfortable with his life right now. He’s getting married next spring. He’s got children.
He’s doing all the right things.”

On Monday, Vick led the Eagles to a 35-0 lead after the first play of the second quarter. He completed his first 10 passes and finished 20 for 28 for 333 yards with four touchdowns. He also ran eight times for 80 yards and two scores, moving past Steve Young and into second place in NFL history for yards rushing by a quarterback.

The Eagles set team records for total yards in a game (592), points in a half (45) and had the biggest lead after the first quarter for any NFL road team (28-0) since at least 1950.

The win moved Philadelphia (6-3) into a first-place tie with the New York Giants in the division, with both teams two games ahead of the Redskins (4-5). The Eagles are 4-0 when Vick starts and finishes the game. They meet the Giants (6-3) on Sunday night.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
November 18, 2010 5:52 pm

Exactly Drummer. People crack me up talking about all the stuff he couldn’t do. Yet he was still able to accomplish things that a small percentages of players could with below average skill players for the majority of his career. Don’t tell me he could neve read defenses and all that crap. I guess it must be easy to do all those things. You don’t need to know how to read defenses or anything related to be successful. I guess McNabb is a prime example of that. I wonder why so many QBs fail. Over 30k passing yards to who? Who were these mysterious receivers that were pro bowl talent that caught so many 3 yard passes and took them 70 yards for TDs. Drummer, some people just prefer to be idiots.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
November 18, 2010 7:13 pm

Scorp

We are certainly kindred spirits. Go Birds!

Paul Mancini
Paul Mancini
November 18, 2010 8:09 pm

Even AJ Feely playing in Coach AR’s system for 11 years where you pass 60%-65% of the time,
even to mediocre WR’s, would accumulate 25K-30K in passing yards during that time…
Show me a Winner, A Real LEader and play Big in the Big games… McNabb was not this type of QB..

jakedog
jakedog
November 18, 2010 8:29 pm

McNabb record: solid statistics, not a big time qb. Reid covered for his defects. No big drives to win games in clutch. Held ball instead of making plays to pad stats, especially no interceps. Bad locker room guy. Fractionalized teammates, fans. Threw up in super bowl. Brags he was the leader, any true leader never talks like that, the play does the talking. Too big, out of shape, can’t effectively read ds, throws 90 mph at the knees, should pitch for the phillies instead, killed families of worms at Linc, the ultimate what about me guy, a flaming narcissist, millionaire because the Boss, Roger Goodell, told Reid and Lurie to pick this guy because the WWF, I mean NFL, needs diverse people, I mean black people, to root for a black qb, increasaed jersey sales shared among all teams, increased Madden sales, profits shared among all teams, benched after Baltimore, poor play, can’t do that, insult the feelings of people, give him bonus for apology, Shanahan benches him, knowing he can’t win on the last drive, can’t speak the truth like Limbaugh and the ultimate Philly warrior Hopkins, instead makes up stories why he put in stiff Grossman to give game away, pouts on sidelines when TO lectured him about winning, pouted again when Vick played the game of his life on Monday, a choke artist, a clown, with that gdamn air guitar, embarrassing us philly fans against the fing cowboys, give it up, forget about the act, and move forward with what appears to be the best qb to lead the Eagles to super bowl

Paul Mancini
Paul Mancini
November 18, 2010 8:35 pm

Good Stuff Jake,
Your not a speech writer, by chance, for Sara Palin are you ???

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
November 18, 2010 9:18 pm

Yeah let’s listen to jake, the dude that think Kolb should still be the starter. Right.

jakedog
jakedog
November 18, 2010 9:37 pm

correct, Scorp, bf the play of Vick and compared to 5, Kolb was and should have been the starter. Just ask Reid

phillywill
phillywill
November 19, 2010 8:50 am

u fighting a loss cause scorp because there are just some guys they just dont like and they all seem to be the same type of players
they r saying r the right things about vick right now but they cant wait to pounce on him too very sad

greenfan
greenfan
November 19, 2010 9:07 am

jakedog….poor timing on your vent…can’t we just enjoy the current state of our team instead of jawwing at each other over who is a better fan, or who liked this guy first?

5 is gone, Vick is the starter and Kolb is the backup….that is fact. Each can play QB, and each will have their own level of success, but right now this team is being lead by Vick, and they are playing great. Why not get behind your team and tear apart Giants fans, Cowgirl fans & the Deadskins?

jakedog
jakedog
November 19, 2010 9:22 am

yeah, we don’t like the overrated, the prima dons, and they play all different sports and come in all colors

phillywill
phillywill
November 19, 2010 9:24 am

so u dont like kolb at all then do u
most overrated player in the league

jakedog
jakedog
November 19, 2010 9:28 am

let it go Phil, Kolb started 6 games, you can pick at his record as you have done, good and bad, 5 played 11 seasons, now 12.