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It Was Michael Vick And Not Eagles Coaches Who Made The Adjustment

When you step back and look at the offensive game plan and the adjustments which were made during the Eagles-Giants game, there’s a reason to be upset and disappointed.  I know the Birds got that all-important victory, but there’s a reason to look back and say what took so long for the adjustments.

The truth is that Andy Reid and Marty Mornhinweg never really made an adjustment to New York’s defensive game plan in order prevent the Giants from killing Michael Vick with all those blitzes which they were employing.  It was Vick who made the adjustment.

I think Reid and Mornhinweg have had a great year but Sunday wasn’t part of it.  They’ve had game plans that have completely destroyed opponents before they can even think about what hit them.  They weren’t able to come up with the solution against New York, but Vick did.

He dusted off the Atlanta Falcons version of Michael Vick and began to rock and roll.  There wasn’t any Bill Walsh-designed and Joe Montana-executed plan.

This is one of the reasons he’s got to get a lot of votes as MVP.  He pulled the Birds out of the fire in this game.  It wasn’t the blocking or the receivers, it was Michael Vick who took the game into his own hands and worked his magic.

He ducked under number 34 Dion Grant, who had him on a blitz. There wasn’t any design which got him free. Any other quarterback in the league would have been sacked, but Vick ducked up under the sack attempt and hit the gas.

He ran outside when cornerback Aaron Ross foolishly went inside.  Ross let Vick get outside just as New York linebacker Michael Boley was coming free up the middle and intent on pounding our quarterback.

This was on a 3rd and ten when the Birds were backed up.  New York opened the door and Vick went through it, but there was no design to counter the blitz.  It was the Atlanta Vick who was looking for opportunities to run.

“He had been pounded pretty good and we were getting after him,” Giants coach Tom Coughlin said.

“What did they do differently in the last 7 minutes?” he was asked.

“They ran the quarterback up and down the field,” he said. “That’s what they did differently.”

It wasn’t they Coach Coughlin, it was number 7 who decided to get it done.

Vick was the one who saw Jeremy Maclin being loosely covered down on the goalline and threw him the ball.  The Giants had been doing a good job of moving up on the Birds receivers and jamming them when they came off the line.

This was the poorest job Mornhinweg has done as offensive coordinator all year long.  Vick was getting killed all day until he took over himself and started running.  I didn’t see any adjustment made by the Birds.

Vick made them pay for doing all of that all out blitzing.  I think there were other times when he made a few adjustments at the line of scrimmage and he may have changed a few plays.

I know this isn’t the question for right now, but is he going to be able to stay healthy while taking this pounding as heads forward in his 30’s.  The Dude had the Superman cape on his back on Sunday.

Eagles fans, the biggest difference in the football team this year as compared to last year is the running of Michael Vick.  They still are capable of going through stretches where they can’t connect on the deep ball and defensive backs are roughing the wide receivers up at the line of scrimmage.

Vick’s running is the one item which there isn’t any defense for unless all the defensive players are tremendously disciplined.  The Giants were disciplined for three and a half quarters, then they broke down.

Vick’s running allows the Eagles to have some consistency when the big plays downfield aren’t happening, but they should have told him to take off and run much earlier in the game because they weren’t picking up the New York blitz at all.

It does concern me that I didn’t see a plan from the sidelines to counter the New York blitzing.

They’ve got too many experienced coaches over there, for no adjustment to be made as your quarterback is getting his brains beaten in by the blitz.  It made me think of that Winston Justice-Osi Umenyiora 12-sack Sunday night game.

There’s a reason Andy Reid was so happy about getting the win over the Giants.  Reid knows that he and his staff were pathetic in their preparation and adjustments for this one.

Normally he has the team well prepared, but this week they weren’t ready, yet Vick used his legs to bring home the victory.  After the game on Sunday, Reid looked like a big kid opening his gifts on Christmas morning.

This one was wrapped with a big red bow and said Merry Christmas from Michael Vick.

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daggolden
daggolden
December 21, 2010 5:48 am

exactly what I have been saying G-Cobb. MV7 has to take it upon himself to do what he does. Why would any fan in thier right mind want MV7 to stay in the pocket and get pounded? What makes him the human highlight filme(sorry Dominique), is his ability to run. Maybe if he starts running in the 1st quarter they stop blitzing him. The coaching staff has no answers thats why they didnt adjust. McNabb went through this throughout his career but wasnt as talented as Vick to pull it off. It started in Chicago with Vick not running. All he had to do is run a few times to win that game. Besides trying to split the Redskins defenders Vick is to fast to get hit hard in the open field. Their quite possibly be 5 more games for a SB win. He can run every damn game for 150 yards if that works. What doesnt work is him staying in the pocket and getting hit. We can win this thing with him.

daggolden
daggolden
December 21, 2010 6:03 am

Imagine this. There is not a team on earth that can play MV7 any better than the Giants did. Thats the best of the best and he put up 38. It gets no better than the Giants defense. Our run defense has dominated for 12 weeks. All we need is a little pass defense. Just a little. There is no reason to believe we cant win this just because of MV7.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
December 21, 2010 6:26 am

How do you know it wasn’t the Eagles coaching staff that took the chains off Vick and told him to just run?

I mean, you can’t tell me that the guy couldn’t run ALL game — something tells me Marty and/or Andy just gave him the green light at the end in hopes of a miracle and they got it.

paulman
paulman
December 21, 2010 7:01 am

Paulman’s Rankings of the Top Teams in the NFC after week #15

#1) Falcons – 12-2 (Have not lost since Eagles thumped them 2 months ago)
#2) Bears – 10-4 (Have a better Defense and Special Teams than the Eagles)
#3) EAgles – 10-4 (Have the most explosive players and Offense in the NFL, is it enough..)
#4) Saints – 10-4 (Still the SUper Bowl CHamps and will not go down easy, Defense isn’t the same)
#5) Gaints – 9-5 (Still a dangerous team with a habit of self-destructing)
#6) Packers – 8-6 (With no QB Rodgers, they have little chance to do anything)
#7) TB Bucs – 8-6 (Crucial lost to the Lions knocks them out of a legitimate playoff)
#8) Rams – 6-8 (Someone has to win the NFC West- why not the Rams)

Eagles have as good as a chance as anyone, if their Defense steps up..
Let’s see how they do against a beated down and defeated VIking team who has seemed to pack it in for the Season, the Giantts put 28 and dominated them, the Bears put up 40 on the them, if the Eagles don’t put up 30-35 pts on this team,then there should be reason for concern. This upcoming games could be a let-down game after huge comeback win versus the Giants and a final home game versus the COwboys a week later, the Eagles need to keep their focus and finish strong and there is really no reason that the Eagles should not blow this current VIking team off the Field next Sunday …

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
December 21, 2010 7:04 am

I think the Eagles will handle the Vikes easily. Game will be over by halftime, Kolb sees action in the second half.

Lancaster Eagle
Lancaster Eagle
December 21, 2010 7:12 am

1. As Birdo stated above, GCobb has no idea whether it was Vick and/or the coaches that changed things.

2. The Giants stopped plugging the lanes in the 4th Q that they had been plugging all game. Vick just took opportunities that hadn’t been there earlier in the game.

3. The Giants were gassed during those final drives, making it progressively easier for the Eagles and Vick to do their thing.

This was a stupid article, G. You have no idea what happened. The entire team made plays, the coaches coached it well down the stretch, and the TEAM got the W. Why must you speculate like this?

Lancaster Eagle
Lancaster Eagle
December 21, 2010 7:13 am

Vick called the on-side kick??? Hmmm….okay.

paulman
paulman
December 21, 2010 8:06 am

I heard part of VIck’s new Contract Deal with the Eagles, that he will take the playcalling from
Coach MM after the initial 15 scripted plays.. Vick will be the 1st QB/Offensive Coordiantor in the NFL
I also heard that Coach MM is so upset about it, that he may take the HC Position for the Cleveland
Browns that will be offeres to him after this Season is over…

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
December 21, 2010 8:19 am

Yeah G, it was the players that bailed out Andy’s system. All the passes getting batted down and the Giants blitzing and getting no protection and they are still lining him up right under center. There’s no question in my mind that the players won this game. Andy outcoached the Giants on 1 play and that was the onside. Everything else was the players. We only win this game because of Vick’s athleticism. Any other QB is not mounting that comeback because the system got shut down. We saw for years Reid be bailed out by Westbrook and McNabb and we saw it on Sunday against the Giants. Our receivers we getting no separation, o-line not blocking and it’s not until we are down 24-3 that Andy attempts to run the ball. He’s lucky that number 7 refuses to lose.

bsmvideos
December 21, 2010 8:43 am

The fact that Reid could not even throw the red flag shows that he was sippin on some sippurd.

However the onside kick makes up for that blunder. The good news is that the Eagles have played the best defenses in the conference(Giants/Bears) and have time to develope a game plan to answer what they have seen.

greenfan
greenfan
December 21, 2010 8:46 am

Hey G, I wonder if the FO has the same question that you posed.

” I know this isn’t the question for right now, but is he going to be able to stay healthy while taking this pounding as heads forward in his 30′s. The Dude had the Superman cape on his back on Sunday.”

I want them to sign him asap, he desrves a nice contract for the way that he has lead this team, but I am concerned that one injury to his legs and he will not be the same dynamic qb. But if you think about it, I guess you could say that for most qb’s. Get the guy signed before he goes on the FA market, because that will get ugly.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 8:48 am

drummerwinslow says:
December 20, 2010 at 11:45 pm

If Kolb can thrive in the pocket against Atlanta, Vick can thrive in the pocket as well, but it’s about play calling. I give Reid credit for many things, those things I believe are credit-worthy, i.e., play design, motivator, etc., but I try to keep an open mind and not just drink the Kool-Aid, especially after 12 years of much the same stuff. Yesterday, looked a lot like the Dallas play-off game. The difference was Vick. If Vick had stuck to the game plan, he many not have even survived, much less won.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 8:50 am

drummerwinslow says:
December 20, 2010 at 8:13 pm

Micah, against my better judgment, I’m going to post.

You wrote, “I like that Michael Vick can play three quarters or so with absolutely zero of his magic, and then turn it on at a moment’s notice.”

I disagree with your assessment. I don’t think Vick’s lack of magic was the problem.
Vick’s been taught to throw first and run second. He’s also been taught to trust his coaches and the game plan. Hadn’t everyone patted him on the back for doing so? I certainly did.

I believe the problem was with the game plan. In our most important game of the season, the plan was horrible.

I contend that Reid was thoroughly out-coached, that is, until his master stroke — the on-sides kick.
Despite having zero success from the outset, Vick continued to play within the framework of the offense and continued to trust his coach, until he could no longer do either.

When it became obvious to everyone that the Birds would not win, unlike McNabb, Vick went against his coach. He abandoned the game plan and wrote his own script. Perhaps “abandoned” is too strong a word. Let’s say that Vick “revised” the plan.

Just as he had done in Atlanta for years, Vick looked to run first and pass second. It is said that necessity is the mother of invention. Vick, in middle of a game, re-invented himself because he had to.
No one was ready for that move and the Giants certainly had no defense for it. Vick’s “street ball” led to the most incredible comeback in the history of Philadelphia sports.

While I don’t endorse that style of football for an entire season, it worked like a charm yesterday. And even more important, it’s nice to know that when all else fails, Vick can and will take control of the team as he sees fit.

I’m posting only because you made no mention of Reid, except to exonerate him for not throwing the challenge flag.

Doesn’t Reid bear any responsibility for what happened yesterday?

I noticed that the Vick took more snaps from under center than usual.

It was pointed out during the post-game that Reid chose to play his offense tight and not spread them (until the 4th quarter). I don’t know if that’s true, but Vick being under center somewhat validates that claim. If the claim holds true, Reid is certainly accountable for such a poor offensive showing.

In the way of a disclaimer, I reserve the right to change my opinion after I’ve re-watched the game.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 8:51 am

drummerwinslow says:
December 20, 2010 at 11:55 pm

Some people act as if either everything is right or everything is wrong. I see some things that are right and some that are wrong. I’ve said this a million times. Reid’s a great coach in many ways, but his blind spots hinder him from winning the big one.

The guy went 8 or 9 years thinking that he didn’t need skill players, that his “system” was so great that you just plug anyone in. Even after seeing the difference T.O. made, he went right back to mediocrity. If you think that’s perfect, so be it. I don’t.

We had the smallest linebackers in the league for how long?

He refused to run the ball for how long?

What about the years without a punt returner, full-back, etc. The fact is, as many things that Reid has done great, he’s done an equal amount of self-harm.

Reid tried desperately to trade Vick during the off-season. If he had successfully traded him to say the Vikings and they had won a Superbowl while we went 6-10 with Kolb, where would Reid be right now? That could have happened, but no one wanted Vick. But if it had, many would be calling for his head right now, instead drinking Kool-Aid and turning a blind eye to the facts.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 8:52 am

drummerwinslow says:
December 21, 2010 at 12:01 am

Jake

Martin was a great man. Thank you for the compliment. I haven’t given it any thought, but there’s got to be someone to whom you compare. Never mind, you probably wouldn’t agree.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 9:04 am

If Vick did that every game, defenses would adjust. They’d employ spies and make it their priority to make him pay when he took off, just like they when the let a receiver catch the ball coming over the middle then taking his head off.

This is not something Vick should be doing every game. Every coach in the league wants his QB to stay in the pocket, and with good reason. When a QB runs, he’s got defenders converging from every angle, even from behind, and they’ve often got an unabated head of steam. It’s the not same as beating a block while rushing the passer.

The league was just put on notice, Vick can and will return to his old form when the game plan is not working. I have a feeling that we’ll see more of that in the playoffs. Reid might even want to consider designing plays with everyone going deep and having Vick take off with a lead blocker.

phillywill
phillywill
December 21, 2010 9:05 am

yea lancaster
andy said “mike we cant pick up the blitz so when they come untouched duck under guys and run ” yeah im sure those were andy’s words

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 9:08 am

PW

lol

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 9:09 am

PW

Yesterday, I took some flack for saying exactly what G posted today.

Rasheed1
Rasheed1
December 21, 2010 9:13 am

If this were last year… it would have ended like last year’s Cowboy games.. If Donovan was in there, he would have simply continued to take that pounding and Andy reid would not have changed a thing… That bothers me alot about Reid…he is very hard headed from time to time and it costs the team in clutch situations because he doesnt help his QB out.. He is lucky to have Vick and all that speed at QB to balance that out… We lose that game with any other Qb

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 9:19 am

Rasheed

I’m a Donovan fan, but I agree. Donovan toed the corporate line, and who could blame him for $100 million, but Vick’s a gamer. He’ll take the added risk and do whatever is required to win the game.

I find it difficult to believe that Reid told Vick to just run. Like you said, he never told McNabb to do so.

I’m becoming more and more convinced that Vick made an executive decision to “revise” Reid’s game plan. He looked to run first and pass second. That’s leadership from a “field general.”

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 9:22 am

Your post below as brilliant!

scorpiodsu says:
December 21, 2010 at 8:19 am
Yeah G, it was the players that bailed out Andy’s system. All the passes getting batted down and the Giants blitzing and getting no protection and they are still lining him up right under center. There’s no question in my mind that the players won this game. Andy outcoached the Giants on 1 play and that was the onside. Everything else was the players. We only win this game because of Vick’s athleticism. Any other QB is not mounting that comeback because the system got shut down. We saw for years Reid be bailed out by Westbrook and McNabb and we saw it on Sunday against the Giants. Our receivers we getting no separation, o-line not blocking and it’s not until we are down 24-3 that Andy attempts to run the ball. He’s lucky that number 7 refuses to lose.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
December 21, 2010 9:24 am

Lancaster, After 3 /12 quarters of play, the coaching adjustments should have came much sooner..don’t you think? Vick made the adjustment, he started looking to run more instead of holding the ball waiting for the receivers! An onside kick is not an adjustment, that is simply a play call, how can that be considered an adjustment….

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 9:36 am

I’ve been saying years that McNabb and Westbrook won in spite of Reid, not because of him.

We’re seeing the same scenario that was played with McNabb being played out with Vick, who is a much better QB. Already, people are asking did someone tell Vick to stop running. Wasn’t that same question asked about McNabb? Then, when Vick begins to get injured, you’ll hear that he is “injury prone.” Then when he loses his bravado from taking such a pounding, everything can go wrong. Once his body is wracked with and will no longer respond, you’ll hear, “See, I told you Vick wasn’t that good.”

It’s all about play-calling. Why is that Brady can pass from the pocket year after year? He finally suffered one major injury, but that’s to be expected when you play in the NFL.

Honestly, my first statement is over the top. Reid is a great coach in many ways, but his blind spots have kept him from winning against the upper echelon.

I’ve also been saying since the Atlanta game that Reid’s play-calling would get Vick killed. As we face tougher and tougher opponents, it’s becoming more and more evident.

I’ve got to paste my post from last week:

drummerwinslow says:
December 18, 2010 at 6:35 pm

Reid’s being praised for putting this all together. While, I give him high marks for teaching Vick how to play the position, I haven’t forgotten that he tried to trade Vick during the off-season.

What would have been said if Vick had gone to Minnesota and won a superbowl? Let’s take it a step further. What would have happened if Vick had won the superbowl and we finished 4-12? I believe Reid would be on his way out the door.

In what I consider our best game, against Atlanta, Reid ran the ball 54% of the time. Yet, since that time, he’s passed the ball as much as 93% (during the 2nd and 3rd quarters of each game).

The lowest percentage was 77% and the highest was 93%. Let it soak in – 93%!!!

Everyone’s talking about Vick taking hits, but few are looking at “why” he’s taking those hits. I contend that he’s taking those hits, in large part, because of Reid’s play calling.

I listened to Didinger today who said that he thought Reid was doing his best job at play-calling. In my opinion, that’s laughable.

Again, I give Reid high marks for play design, and high marks for the first 15 scripted plays, but after that, he goes into a passing frenzy that would get any QB killed. Think about it. Why would someone with Vick’s escapability and speed take so many hits?

Reid likes to call pass plays that take 4-5 seconds to develop, as opposed to 3 second patterns. It would seem that Reid would shorten his routes and call more diverse plays if his QB were taking so many vicious shots.

Reid did the same thing to McNabb. Regardless of defensive pressure, down/distance, weather, even if we were having great success running the ball, Reid called those pass plays.

If Buckhalter’s averaging 6 yards a carry . . . time to pass.

Regardless of McNabb’s health (broken ankle, broken ribs, sports hernia and the myriad of other injuries), Reid called pass after pass.

McNabb was continually chased, continually hit, and continuously injured. Despite that, he played with courage.

When McNabb was QB, wouldn’t it have made sense to have the best receivers, considering that we threw more passes than anyone in the league? Instead, our receivers couldn’t even have been considered “good.” Sure, we could beat mediocre teams (on the strength of McNabb and Westbrook), but against the upper echelon, we sucked.

Case in point – Ricky Manning!!! I have never seen a situation where a team’s wide receiver couldn’t even get off the line of scrimmage. How is a QB supposed complete passes to him?

Then to add insult to injury, we owned them running the ball — couldn’t be stopped. But what does Reid do . . . you know the story.

And how many times have we seen post-game interviews where the defense said they knew exactly which play was coming? This didn’t happen occasionally. It happened repeatedly. And it happened during crumch time. Why call a huddle?

When he finally got a No. 1 receiver, McNabb broke league records and went to the Superbowl. Never mind that no one else did anything during the game, somehow, it was all McNabb’s fault.

Westbrook did nothing. The defense did nothing. Offensive line, nothing (especially Hank Fraley). McNabb had pressure up the middle from the very first play.

It’s ironic that when Kolb faced pressure, everyone and their momma pointed at the offensive line. When we lost Jamal Jackson, Kolb had yet another reason to give him another year.

When Richard Seymour “owned” Hank Fraley in the Superbowl, that was completely ignored. It was McNabb’s fault.

When Peyton Manning throws a ton of picks, it’s attributed to his lack of playmakers.

When McNabb throws them, it’s because he’s a bad QB. I’m sure McNabb would trade his entire receiving corps for Reggie Wayne.

For years, Peyton was known as the QB who couldn’t win big games. He finally won a superbowl and he was suddenly the best in the game. Last season, he threw a pick to lose the superbowl. Did he revert to the QB who couldn’t win the big one?

What about his 11 picks in 3 games this season? I’m confused. Is he the greatest or the worst?

I told myself that I wouldn’t waste my time posting, but after reading some of the “opinions,” it’s became a necessity to weigh in.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 9:40 am

Lancaster

Coughlin stated in his post-game interview that they changed nothing. Further, he said the difference was Vick running up and down the field.

jroc757
jroc757
December 21, 2010 9:46 am

#1 No matter what in Vick’s young years his numbers wasnt that great……… But he is a proven winner when it came down to clutch moments………. We all seen him make plays in the giants game that CLEARLY………….. Shows he put this team on his back……..(Period)…….. He is Iverson and Kobe in the 4qtr…… A guy who I trust in a clutch moment hands down………. Now he’s lethal with his arm and is by far….. The most dangerous player in the NFL…….. I can argue with anyone………

Kobe and Iverson had bad games……. But were clutch when needed…….. Mike Vick is a guy who clearly is a winner…….. AMEN…….

greenfan
greenfan
December 21, 2010 9:51 am

Jroc…he is not only a winner but he is a leader that the guys on this team will follow….there are plenty of guys who have won games in this league, but the ones that we remember and point to are the leaders….Mike Vick leads by example, speaks up when needed and gets the job done…nuff said

jroc757
jroc757
December 21, 2010 9:51 am

The Philadelphia Eagles have never ever ever a good come back team………. With #7……. Being the Captian of the ship……. How can you argue about his abilities……. I love Mcnabb he’s been great for 11 years with philly…… But Mike Vick’s self confidence shows in the game and on the side-line…….. He’s Clutch……. He has the will to never give up…….. And his COMPOSURE…… Is the best of the best such as Brady, Manning and Drew Brees…….. Even with his numbers in atl…… He still had a good winning percentage as a starter!!!!

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 9:52 am

Honorable mention:

Doug Collins is slowly turning around the Sixers. They’ve focused on defense and have begun winning. If the season ended right now, I believe they’d be in the playoffs.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 9:53 am

Green and Jroc

Kudos.

jroc757
jroc757
December 21, 2010 9:55 am

Greenfan…… I agree 100%……… He knows that guys like McCoy and D-jax and Maclin and Celek and Avant etc. watched him when he was with ATL…….. That just makes these guys want to play even more harder to help win games……. He is something special…….. ANd he could be a good mentor to these younger players because they say you lead by example……. And what Vick went through…….. These guys could learn from his mistakes in life……. AMEN

jroc757
jroc757
December 21, 2010 9:59 am

@Drummer was it me or was it more of the Eagles Offensive line was challenging the Giants front four most of the game…….. There wasn’t alot of shotgun passes…….???? It looked more like a real westcoast style of offense more than what we have been playing with lately….. Or maybe it’s me????

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 10:02 am

Giants coach Tom Coughlin addresses the media
Sunday, December 19, 2010
LAST UPDATED: MONDAY DECEMBER 20, 2010, 8:56 AM
THE RECORD
COURTESY OF THE GIANTS

Giants head coach Tom Coughlin speaks with the media after Sunday’s loss:

Q: What was different in the last seven minutes?

A: They ran the quarterback up and down the field. That’s what they did differently.

Q: Why was he able to?

A: Because we were rushing the passer and the quarterback quite frankly looked to me like he was looking to run.

Q: After the first half, did your defense change or did Vick adjust?

A: Well, up until the time it was 31-10, I thought our defense was – even though there were some moments on their one touchdown – I thought we regrouped and we were doing a good job. From that point on we obviously had difficulty

Q: Was there a sense of nervousness on the sidelines?

A: I didn’t sense anything except we weren’t stopping them and up and down the field they went and they did it with a pass that covered a tremendous amount of yardage in no time and they did it with a couple of quarterback runs that put the ball from the minus-nine or 10 to midfield. They were huge chunks. We didn’t tackle. We had a chance to tackle 87 on the long play and we didn’t do it.

Tberry4
Tberry4
December 21, 2010 10:03 am

The reality is the Giants scored 21 pts off of plays that should have been overturned and or challenged and would have been overturned. That should put the game in perspective.
Nicks 22yd called catch on 3 and 18 wasn;t challenged and clearly hit the ground – led to Manningham TD
Maclin fumble that’s a catch but Calvins wasn’t give me a break- Led to Nick TD
Jackson fumble that was obviously down by contact- Led to Boss TD.

Giants played well but to say they dominated is a gross overstatement. The final 8 min showed at the end of the day who the better team is.

The Reality is even the top two “D’s” in the league Chi, NYG haven’t stopped the Eagles. The Eagles have stopped themselves. Multiple dropped TD’s in the endzone. Poor field conditions supported by Jay Cutler last week before the Pats game and field was re-sodded. “Field is like a H.S. field our guys know how to play on it but it’s still poor” Very obvious in game vs eagles.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 10:06 am

Jroc

Vick was definitely under center more often that in the past. Again, it was said that Reid chose to play his offense tight (to cover for the loss of Winston Justice). It’s my understanding that he did revert to his normal spread offense in the 4th quarter. If that’s true, it was huge help. It allowed Vick to work his magic.

I can’t wait to see the game again. As soon as it’s uploaded, I’m all over it.

phillywill
phillywill
December 21, 2010 10:06 am

sixers certainly playing good ball
boring as hell to watch but playing much better
doug collins seems to have gotten thru to spencer hawes he has been the difference blockin shots scoring like 16 17 a game and grabbing 10 boards
we see u spencer

ozzman
ozzman
December 21, 2010 10:08 am

Fact of the matter is name 1 time Reid has made an adjustment when his offense gets shut down? How many times in the playoffs did we watch this offense get shut down. We see the receivers getting hit at the line and being man handled. We see a total pass happy play calling with QB getting killed or running for his life. 7 step drops and long routes when the QB has no time and the defense has their ears pinned back. The Giants were in nickel and dime all game because they know that the Eagles will not come out and run the ball. We heard it last year from the cowboys saying they knew what the plays were going to be. Same from the Saints a few years back. Up until the comeback, it was the same nightmare i have watched in championship games and playoffs. Luckily we have Vick to take matters into his own hands.

jroc757
jroc757
December 21, 2010 10:09 am

LMAO….. @Drummer……… Good post……. Coughlin also said he sat in the Dark for 2hrs………… And the Monday night game against WSH…… He said he got sick to his stomach…… LMAO………. He had to take Anti-Acids……… Could it be a new Tums commercial for Coughlin to start premiering in…… Because Plex use to give JJ headaches when he was playing……

jroc757
jroc757
December 21, 2010 10:15 am

Ozzman….. You are right bro…….. Vick is the key to this team…… Last year when he threw that TD… Pass to Maclin against the Cowboys….. You can just look at him and see the frustration in him of wanting to play…….. LOL……. I think that he was saying that I can bring this team back……. He has heart and the fight in him to do what ever it takes to be on top…… he took a job from a young prospect who job was basically secured……… Vick got in shape during the offseason…… With no chemistry with the first team…… And rise to the occasion and became a star again…… Thats why he’s my vote for MVP…… Brady had all offseason to get familiar with his players…. But not VICK……

GO EAGLES

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 10:16 am

Look, I’ve criticized Reid, but I also give him praise. I know that change comes about slowly over a period of time, especially in professional football. It’s been said that if a coach listens to the fans that he’ll soon be sitting in the stands with them. I believe that’s true. So, I understand Reid’s reluctance to change.

With that said, some needed changes were painfully obvious. I’m not going to outline them again, but I give Reid credit for finally making some keys changes, i.e.,

Drafting in the first round
Playing rookies
Various personnel upgrades (starters and back-ups)
Making a conscious effort to the run the ball more (at least in the first 15 plays)
Naming Vick as his QB, a HUGE and UNPOPULAR decision
Handing over the play-calling to Mornigweigh a few years ago (though Reid’s influence is evident)

There are other positive changes, but I feel that play-calling is still a huge problem. He showed the ability to call a great game against Atlanta, then for some reason reverted against the Titans toward the end of the first half. Since that time, it’s gotten worse.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 10:17 am

Ozzman

You see things so clearly.

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 10:18 am

Jroc

Yeah, I read that Coughlin interview.

jroc757
jroc757
December 21, 2010 10:20 am

Vick only knew 7-8 plays against GB and almost came back and won that game for us…… WHO does that??????? I’ll wait……..(Katt Williams voice)………. I dont care what sports analyst say or who ever….. THis is some of the best football I’ve ever seen……… I live in NC and I’ve seen about 10 Eagles games being televised out her……. So less Bars for me to sit at……. So he’s saving me money LMAO……. How special is #7……………. Hopefully I’ll save money on my car insurance!!!!!!

jroc757
jroc757
December 21, 2010 10:23 am

Drummer your right…….. Him handing the plays to Morningweigh is a big difference….. Key…….. You hit the nail on the head the first shot bro!!!

paulman
paulman
December 21, 2010 10:26 am

How can a back-up QB with Vick’s experience and tenure with the team (over 12 months) only know
7-8 plays when relieved Kolb and went in versus the Packers on Opening game.. I know back-ups QB’s don’t get reps with the #1 team often during a practice week, but I find that hard to believe going into the Packers game with a unproven starter in Kolb, that your experienced back-up QB only knows 7-8 plays..
If this indeed the case, then that’s some poor Coaching and Preparation by the Coahing staff
(What are they doing the last couple weeks of pre-season…aren’t they preparing for opening game)

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 10:28 am

We have another great opportunity to win it all. If Reid just reviews the Atlanta game, where his greatness as a coach really shined, he might see the difference. But even if he doesn’t, we have someone in Vick who may be able to overcome the odds. That guy is phenomenal!

I’m still pumping adrenaline from Sunday’s comeback. That was dramatic! I paced back and forth between plays, talking to the TV (more like hollering), and bracing myself for a letdown. But it never came.

Those guys did the impossible. Reid has assembled a great group of players. I’m not saying they’re the best players, but they have grit and chemistry. And Vick’s been perfect for them. There’s a great balance of respect and camaraderie.

Thank God, the Vikes are dead and stinkin’. We need an easy game (without any injuries). If we go out to any kind of a substantial lead, I’d play Kolb (for a couple of reasons). First, to keep Vick free from injury. Second, to have Kolb ready in case Vick is injured down the road.

jroc757
jroc757
December 21, 2010 10:30 am

Paulman…… It was told that the Eagles ran the same plays over and over again…… Look at the post conference on week 1…….. vick only knew a few of the plays because he was on the 2nd team…….. Kolb had the whole playbook to refer from………

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 10:32 am

Jroc

Katt Williams . . . I’ll wait. lol!!!

I don’t know how many plays Vick new, but the offense was set up for a right hander and Kolb got the snaps in both training camp and the week leading up to the game. I’ve said it a few times, but when you change from a right-handed QB to a left-handed QB, that’s a HUGE change. Everything is in reverse, from the hand-offs to the running backs, to the protection, to the spin on the ball. It’s all different.

jroc757
jroc757
December 21, 2010 10:34 am

@Drummer….. This is the most fun I’ve had since 2004!!! I’m with you my man….. NO HOMO!!!! LMAO

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
December 21, 2010 10:35 am

I love this headline from Jason Keidel:

“In The Vick Of Time”