Now that was an awful performance by the Eagles. They looked like a football team that hasn’t even been practicing.
Yesterday was a bad day for Michael Vick in a lot of ways. He had to release a statement during the afternoon on Thursday to say that he signed with the Eagles out of his own volition. That was to counter an article about him in GQ magazine which says Vick was told he couldn’t go to Cincinnati or Buffalo by the NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell.
Of course everybody could see that Vick had a terrible game. His focus wasn’t there. He was staring down his receivers which drew coverage to them, then throwing the ball to guys who were covered and getting it to them late and behind them.
The tackle he made of Troy Polamalu could have been a major mistake if he had been knocked out. Vick played about as bad as a quarterback can play in half. He led the Birds to zero points, while throwing three interceptions. It’s good for him that he didn’t play the entire game.
Vick was unable to get into any kind of flow through his two quarters of work. It seemed like he was starting to think too much rather than reading and reacting. Vick was trying to make something happen even when nobody was open. Help is needed.
“Once we got down 14-0, I just started pressing the issue,” Vick said. “I knew I was only going to be in for two quarters, and I wanted to put some points on the board. All those turnovers can be corrected.”
LeSean McCoy ran the ball well the few times he got the opportunity.
Vince Young played better than Vick but he didn’t have an outstanding day either. He only threw one interception but like Vick led the Birds to zero points. A couple of times you could see that he’s still having trouble with the verbiage because he couldn’t get the offense in and out of the huddle. It’s a good thing he’s got time to study a great deal more before the season starts.
The one quarterback who played well was Mike Kafka, but he was playing against guys who are going to be selling insurance and used car in a few weeks. Kafka was able to hit out routes and intermediate patterns inside to move the ball down the field. He even took off a couple of times and was able to make enough plays to put 14 points on the board.
Defensively we had heard about how Juan Castillo and company were simplifying the coverages. If you went by the way the Birds defense played, they looked like they had gone out their way to complicate every so that receivers were running around wide open on every big defensive play against the Steelers first team offense.
Middle linebacker Casey Matthews needed to show us something tonight and he didn’t. He seemed to be too small and overmatched at the middle linebacker position. I saw him make a couple of ankle high tackles while he was in there, but he’s got to play much better than that or opposing teams will be licking their chops to get a shot at him.
The defensive line rushed the passer effectively at times, but far too many times they were unable to get into the quarterbacks’ face. The defensive end were getting upfield, but too many times it was upfield and out of the play.
The defensive tackles were able to get one very good pass rush, but that was by Cullen Jenkins who sacked Ben Roethlisberger, but it was nullified by Jenkins grabbing of the quarterback’s face mask.
On the first touchdown, Asante Samuel got caught guessing. The Birds sent Nate Allen and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie on a blitz but Allen hesitated which gave Big Ben time to make a good accurate throw.
Allen seemed to be a couple of steps behind all night long. He was missing tackles and unable to cover receivers. Every time I looked up I saw number 29 getting beat or arriving on the scene after yardage had been gained. The other safety back there, Kurt Coleman didn’t do much better.
Roethlisberger showed us what quarterbacks are going to do against the Eagles secondary. They’re going to get their tight ends, running backs and third receivers matched up against the Eagles safeties.
On the second touchdown drive by the Eagles, somebody blew the coverage and it looked like Allen was the guy. There were receivers running wide open all over the place. That was the case far too many times during the game. The Eagles secondary seemed confused and the defensive line was inconsistent and ineffective in their pass rush.
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onlyplayer that looked good was dion lewis and he fumbled.. nate allen sucks, i dont know if its his injury but i always thought he was soft, t he had the first 4 passes completed on him hesitated on the blitz when noone even blocked him which caused them to go over the top on asante who was reading off his blitz.. nate allen is no good i wish we had Q.. also casey mathews is too small and slow and as man handled .. i was rooting for mathews and now i think we should pick up kirk morrison or chaney back in the middle .. i dont want lofa too many injuries.. maybe brian rolle will be able to start mid season on the outside and put chaney in the middle.. who knows…
larrwd–we had Q last year—remember??? He played SS and Allen played FS–good gosh, you people get owrked up over a preseason game??? And Allen is no good, but he more INTs than Q did last year–and it was Q last year who gave the Pack another chance in the playoffs when they fumbled, the ball was right beside him and he didn’t bother recovering it–the Packe recovered it and went on and scroed a TD. Please, the preseason is for evaluating players, execution of the plays called and getting out of games with no injuries–there’s no gameplanning in the preseason.
It was all a bad Dream as in team. 5 turnovers and Matthews is Mark Simineo with long hair. The Eagles really suck at evaluating linebackers and safeties. Allen seems to like rough touch. I guess the Steelers showed them a thing or two. What a lopsided game.
Ugly, all around performance. Andy better straighten out the LB situation, or the RB’s & TE’s will destroy us all year. Can we ease up on the SB chat already! Let things play out.
DTS, SMALL, LBS SMALL, ALLEN SOFT FOR NOW, SEEMS LIKE HE IS PLAYING NOT TO GET HURT, FOR NOW THAT WILL CHANGE, ASANTE? SAFETIES WILL GET BETTER AND BE GREAT, D OVER ALL, SUCKED , NOT TRILLED ABOUT JUAN’S CALLING. THEY WILL BE BETTER BUT WITH NO BEEF AT DT AND LBS ZZZZ….JARRETT WILL BE A ROOKIE OF THE YEAR CONTENDER, BUT WE ARE A YEAR AWAY FROM THE SB, AND THE SECOND ROUND PICK HAS TO BE A MONSTER DT OR LB.
NOW THE OFFENSE, WE HAVE GOT ALL GREAT SKILL PLAYERS, TRADE UP TRADE UP TRADE UP, THESE GAME ARE WON UP FRIGGIN FRONT WATKINS AND HIS SIDE WILL BE FINE, CENTER IS OK IS HE CAN STAY HEALTHY, TRADE UP TRADE UP, WE GOT 12 PICKS, LETS MAKE THAT 5 SECOND ROUND PICKS AND AND OR THREE ONES,,, WE NEED AND RT AND BIG GUARDS, FRIGGING STEELERS HAVE DUDE AFTER DUDE, BIG STRONG BACK UPS BETTER THE OUR CRAP. SORRY KING D, TOO FRIIGIN TALL BRO, SORRY SEE YA AND WINSTON BETTER HAVE A PROBOWL TYPE YEAR, OR SEEYA, WE ALWAYS HAVE A CRAP GAME IN PITT THIS TIME OF YEAR AND WE ALAWAYS COME UP SHORT, NEXT YEAR WE HAVE TO OUT MAN THEM! JUST LIKE AFTER DALLAS DID US, WE NEED PROTECTION AND MOST OF ALL REAL GOD DAMM RUN BLOCKING, ALL THOSE YARDS WERE FLUKE CUZ OUR BACK ARE GREAT, AND MCCOY, SHOUT YOUR FUKIN MOUTH, YOU ARE ON OUR TEAM BRO. A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW, MY KID KIDS WILL STILL BE WATCHING, SO PIPE THE F DOWN, TWATTER. R U F’EN KIDDING ME, FOCUS ON OUR TEAM YOU FUC IN YENTA
DIDNT SEE WESTBROOK TALKIN ON TWITTER, NO MF HE WAS LEARNING TO BLOCK, EVERY FUC GAME WESTBROOK WOULD JUST KEEP HIS MOUTH SHOUT AND PROVE OVER AND OVER, HE WAS THE BEST , AND “MCCOY! YOU COULD BE, BUT I SEE YOU OVER THERE YAPPIN AND TALKIN SHIT BRO, IT BUGGS SO GET SERIOUS CUZ ((((((((( rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR)))))))))) SO GOD DAMM!!!! ! PISSED))))))) THE F O F F !
WE NEED FOUR PLAYERS ONE DT 2 LBS AND ONE RT, TRADE ALL PICKS TO GET THESE FINAL PIECES , I WOULDN’T EVEN BRING ANY BODIES INTO CAMP NEXT YEAR, WASTE SNAPS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY MONEY, NICKEL AND DIMING US TO DEATH. JUSTICE WOULD BE A GREAT BACK UP ETC…. WE NEED STARS AT THE LAST 4 POSITIONS AND TO PAY THE ONES WE GOT. HERE IS OUR NEW MOTTO, WHERE THE BEEF!
WE WE’RE TERRIBLE CRAAAAAAAAPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!! I WAS HOPING I WAS WAKING UP FROM A BAD DREAM. WE NEED A REAL D COORDINATOR, NOT A FIRST TIMER WITH THE TRAINING WHEELS STILL ON.”AARRGGGGHHHH”; ABOUT TO BE ANOTHER WASTED YEAR. CRAP.
Where is Schiller and Navy to defend Casey Matthews. You two little know nothings can kiss my ass. You need more reading assignments Navy you stupid marxist ideologue?
DeSean Jackson is just getting warmed up at this point, Vick was already in sync with the other receivers. I would expect a little more of the same next week when Maclin gets inserted into the mix. AND WHY ISN’T ANTONIO DIXON IN WITH THE STARTERS? Is he injured? (just read he had a knee sprain) He could have helped SIGNIFICANTLY against the run. More importantly a trade for Taylor Mays seems to make even more sense.
Somebody get that man a blindside tackle he can trust or he’ll be forcing throws all season!!! He’ll have an internal clock that only goes to 0:01
If they don’t, we’re gonna end up with Vince Young trying to bring this team out of a 0-6 start!
A couple of areas of a major concern
#1) The Middle of the Defense (from DT to MLB to Safety) the Eagles are very vulnerable and not very big or NFL ready at this point .. Other Teams will copy what the Steelers did in the 1st half which is run the ball right up the gut and throw short passes and expose the middle of the field versus small and inexpereinced LB/Safeties
#2) Offensively, this poor perfomance was on QB Vuick who looked terrible.. I thought the OL protected well enough for Vick to get rid of the ball but he throw into double coverage quite a bit, missed open receivers and just apperead a little flat-tfooted all half that he played.. Vick is still having big problems reconizing the blitz packages and where the pressure is coming from and where the mismatches are comingn from… another thing is that he Eagles WR’s look very average to below average without Maclin in there. You double Team D-JAx and are teams going to be scared of Cooper/Avant and Hallwho can’t get any separation from defenders
The Eagles Defense never got the Steelers off the Field and on OFfense were never able to sustain any drivers.This gfame reminded me a lot of the Vikings game at home last week where the Eagle Hype machine was in high order.. and everyone was praising the Eagles Success in Week 1 vs the Ravenes when I statedIthat VIck got away with some poor decisions on 3 of his 5 completions last week and was beat up as a hater for it.. I have the Eagles ranked in the bottom 1/3 lof the NFC last week and now after this performance, I would expected them to remain there
E, Rocko… the Birds were definitely the Dream Team last night… they made you want to go to sleep to escape the reality of who they were!
A couple of days ago I explained the value of an offense that could put together 8-10 play drives, over flash and dash.
The Steelers made a textbook case in point. Two 14 play drives that wore out the Eagles defense and frustrated the offense.
Desean’s big play ability is nice to have but a WR who gets open more, catches more passes and can break tackles is also valuable. Both have value.
I thank the Steelers for reminding me that Superbowls are won on the field not in the front office. I just could not see how anybody could beat my loaded Eagles this year.
Thanks Pittsburg for that smack back to reality.
The “Gold Standard” passing on Gabe Carimi for a 26 year old interior lineman was just plain dumb. Love Bill Parcells or hate him, he at least knows enough to draft a high value blind side tackle for his qb. Vick is gonna get hammered.
Good God its preseason! Glad it happen to humble some guys. We need to forget the dream team crap and come together as a team. We will be fine. Calm down.
I agree 100% with BSM..
This hopefully will be a wake-up call to the Coaches, the players and the media and fans that this team will be a work in progress for the 1st 2 months of the Season.. They have lots of new players and new schemes on Defense and to be honest, has Vick looked good at QB since the Miracle game vs the Giants..
I don’t think so…
The OL and even Dunlap played pretty solid I thought RTB,
It was the player pulling the trigger (Vick) who was bad last night.. It happens
i agree with “runtheball ” and i think camiri played RT.. its alot easier to fin a guard then a tackle..but its line backer and saftey on defense.. i never liked nate allen he was never a hitter..and he will never be
All this talk about the LBs, but you really saw how bad the safeties are. And same old problem in that they can’t get off the field on 3rd down. No pressure on the QB with the “Stud” DEs.
And Vick, cripes, was he pressured on any of the INTs? I only saw 2 of them, but one was a bad throw and the other was a bad decision. That had nothing to do with the O-line.
It was just preseason, but your first team is not supposed to look that bad.
Eagles defense is SOFT up the middle ……from the DT position to Safety…. they do not have playmakers…. the linebackers are poor and the safeties the same… not looking good.
Nate Allen STINKS! I told you last year he cant tackle he cant cover he is awful. Ask Kenny Britt. Brent Celek hmmmm. Its about time we startasking him WTF do you do? You cant block and you really dont make any plays. Dunlap cudos to you and the oline. You played well. LB stink. Matthews looks like a little boy in there.
McCoy may be best player on team. The kid can ball.
@paulman – agree 100%…. the Eagles better do some serious evaluations of the DT, LB and S positions… they are not NFL ready…. the Steelers showed the NFL how to beat the Birds and it looked so easy…. .Mathews is an NFL WLB not a MLB…. he isnt even starting material yet…. the DT position got blown off the ball and Allen and Coleman looked awful in coverage. Coleman even missed 3-4 open field tackles….
People, Calm down ! You guys act like you dont see this kind of play every preseason, This has been going on for the past 13yrs, Were gonna be fine, This is all about evaluating, Unless Matthews plays like an All Pro next week and thats if he even starts the Eagles know hes not the starter, Expect to see Chaney moved over or they pick up a vet, Does everybody really expect Vick to play like that every week? I havent read one negative thing about him on this site before last nights game now everybody is worried, Take it easy everybody were gonna be fine, Expect to see a few changes in the lineup next week.
The reason I said anything about the Right Tackle is because I think Vick knows what we all know… well at least some of us know… and that’s that his blind side gives him “cause for pause” well in this case… “cause to rush the decision.”
He wants to be a passer but I don’t blame him for reverting back to his old ways of running, we did absolutely nothing for him at the blind spot. I bet he has that in the back of his mind every snap. like oh shit is somebody comin?… quick release.
Schill….where are you this morning buddy?? When I expressed some concern about the run defense and characterized the middle of the D as being soft against the run you ripped me. I’m not saying they cannot improve. I’m just saying I think my concerns are a little more warranted than your enthusiasm right now.
So let’s assess. The Eagles were going to get a run defense test last night. They failed. We were going to see how the defense played for a half against a top team. They failed miserably. We got a chance to test Castillo on making adjustments. He failed. They looked bewildered and more importantly unconcerned that they were getting embarrassed. And Trent Cole. Man, please. I am so sick of his over ratedness. You can’t beat up on a third string tackle and make a play on the QB? He is as soft as soft can be. PLEASE stop mentioning him as one of the best pass rushers in the league. He’s not even in the top ten!! How did the offense look against a top defense? They failed miserably. And I stated yesterday in my lengthy analysis that this team would still struggle to put up points on good defenses. Now I know its only preseason but I am sticking to my guns on that. The O line got tested. They failed. Vick got tested on his blitz recognition. He failed. The coaching staff had the challenge of halftime adjustments. They failed.
I could go on. But I have two burning questions and I’ll just stop. First, WHY ARE YOU NOT PRACTICING?!?!?!? I keep hearing about these lazy walk throughs at Lehigh and they are taking things soooo easy. Let’s frigging do some work!! Second, why would you pass over a good pass blocking tackle in Sean Locklear and go for the injured player (as usual!) with better upside. They should have just got the healthy guy. RT is a mess now.
I was going to mention this yesterday about this game versus the Steelers
that the build-up,overhyping and overconfidence reminded me of last years game versus the Vikings which was delayed due to a 5 inche snow fall..Anyways, I thought Coach AR broke camp a little too soon and the team only had 2-3 practices after last weeks game (Sat/Sun/Mon) and I really didn’t think they played all that great (Offensively) the prior week though many of you did.. and knew the Steelers would come out smoking after a lackluster perfomanc versus the Redskins in their 1st Game.. I believe Coach AR is a little too soft with this team so far and needs to crack the whip starting today.. They were pushed around on both sides of the ball and Vick needs to snap out of his funk.. Take the Giants Miracle comeback which VIck won basically on his legs with some long runs, when was the last overall solid performance that he has played… You have to go back a while..
jbird…the new cba prevents them from having more than 1 real practice in pads per day in camp.
The rt(king) actually did fine last night. You guys have to remember that this is still the preseason! They still havent installed everything yet and arent running everything. This is where you test things to see how they look.
That being said, mathews and nate allen both looked timid last night. They were both catching tackles instead of delivering them. I even say casey go for the legs of issac redman as he came through the hole…that wont work at this level….hell it didnt work when i played him in high school.
Only the 2nd preseason game and all the Eagles weaknesses are already exposed to all the good teams they will play . Can’t stop the run , can’t cover the tight ends , linebackers are too small and terrible ,safetys can’t cover thier grandmothers , and this whole team couldn’t tackle thier grandparents , and I hope Vick has a good supplemental wage insurance policy because he is going to get racked up with those bums blocking his blind side .
Man that was a terrible game last night! Every single cat that took the field can watch tape and see what not to do in a football game…Starting with the QB!..This is why preseason is great though…games don’t count, but you learn early what needs to be corrected/addressed….some things the team tried last night will either be worked on or thrown out completely…
Paulman….lol…Vick only played two games after the Miracle comeback…played against Minnesota and then GB in the playoffs, your making it sound as if its been longer than that…Green Bay game he didnt play great but played solid! Vick played terrible last night, no doubt…he will be fine…
I really should go back futher to the game where I thought VIck lost his magic and came down to earth and it was the Int he threw versus the Bears in the endzone just before the half back in last Niovemenber which lead to their loss, and to me, VIck has been very average and inconsistent since then with his passing decisions and his ability or rather his inability to read coverages..
I agree he wasn’t flat out terrible in those other games (Minnesota he was pretty bad) but the point is, it appears the Vick has to play Great for the Eagles to win and that’s just not going to happen every game out…
and to compound this is the new Kick-off Rule which means teams will be starting at thier own 20 yard line 75% of the time, so teams that have a hard time sustaining drives, grinding out the tough yards on the ground are going to be at a disadvatage and this is exactly where I see this Eagle Offense
take away the big plays and deep passes and let QB Vick and AR?MM offense have a 10-12 play drive and go 80 yards to score and I just don’t seem them being consisntent enough in their play-calling or execution to be able to do this consistently.. See a lot of 3 and outs and putting their newDefense even more behind the 8-ball starting out and having to defend a shorter field…
Before we all scrap this season may I remind everyone about STEVE SPURRIERS redskins…they went undefeated in the preseason that year- how’d it work out? Only thing I can say about Castillo – the way he called that vanilla defense, you’d think he never coached a pro defense in his life! Wait. I’m getting something here. You say he never coached a pro defense in his life?! WTF was Andy trying to outlogic the world on that one.
I think the Eagles could have ran the ball last night…I know key word could of…But McCoy had a few nice carrys…Vick throwing those picks is what ended the drives…I just dont see Vick playing that bad again, Vick is the last cat i’m worried about on this team…..I want him to get it all out of his system now! i want all the players to get the bad play ouf of their systems…if Vick has to play great every game for the Eagles to win, its not good, you’re right…thats too much to ask anyone…But his good can be great! , but one player doesn’t win games…(even though Vick did a lot in the Miracle Comeback game, the D still needed ot get on the field and stop the Giants…Good thing is the entire offense doesn’t need to be corrected, Vick just needs to make better decsiions which he will do…
RTB – I can’t speak for Navy, but I’m here. I didn’t post last night because I was busy watching that shit-show and drowning my sorrows. I was never a huge Casey Mathew’s fan so I don’t know how you got that impression. I think the real problem on defense right now is Juan. I don’t care about where he came from (OL coach v. experienced D coordinator….) I only care about how he coaches the D. But my sense of how he coaches the D right now (and I caution that it would be ludicrous to assume that we know everything about Castillo the DC at this juncture) is that he’s CLUELESS. He seems to think that sending everyone/ or just having players rush up the field (not necessarily toward the QB, but just toward the LOS) as fast and as aggressive as they can, will bring success. We all knwo its WAY more complicated than that.
Just to throw it out there.. Here are QB Vick’s Stats since 11/28/10 which covers the final 6 games of last season and his pre-season work so far this years
142 completions out of 225 passing attemtpts (63 % which is very good)
for 1,828 yards, and 12 TD Passes but 10 Int’s.. His ball protection must get better or this team will be in trouble.. For all the years that McNabb played, he at least didn’t turn over the ball as often as Vick has here lately and Vick was great with ball the 1st half of last season.. Keep him in the pocket, make him read defenses and he will force the ball and make some poor decisions and throws will be the opponents game plan versus the EAgles..
I would not even be surprised if the smart teams like the Giants,Cowboys,Bears,Patriots,Redskins don’t even apply a full rush on him but simply have the DL maintain your lane discipline and make Vick pass the ball to beat you …, You will see many teams employ this strategy to eliminate VIck’s biggest weapons, which are his legs..
I didn’t post anything last night either because I wasn’t surprised by anything to be honest. Everyone was having wet dreams about this team by all the acquisitions but the rational mind says otherwise. Yes we acquired some talent but we left very, very questionable rookies/2nd year players to fill the void of probably the most important positions. I have always maintained that MLB is the most important position. Any two gap plugs will do. It’s what happens after the front line makes their move. I think Jarret will end up starting over Allen, he’s balky on that leg not to mention our defense is still based on a “freak of nature” at Safety. Nate Allen is too small right now. He may add muscle but it’s going to take time. Same thing with Matthews I think the kid in time will get better but how could the Eagles be so damn sure of themselves with the most important position on Defense? I’ll take a neandertal at the mike position as long as he’s a bruiser. We’ve got pee wee herman as our MLB