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Looking Back, The Signing Of Asomugha May Have Been A Mistake

The Eagles won the off season free agency signing period but in the process they may have hurt this football team. After the Eagles made the move to trade backup quarterback Kevin Kolb to acquire Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and a second round draft pick, they had two Pro Bowl cornerbacks but very little talent or experience at the linebacker or safety positions.

Instead of acquiring some talent at the linebacker or safety positions, the Eagles decided to sign another Pro Bowl cornerback, Nmandi Asomugha and pay him $12 million dollar a year. So far it has proven to be a huge mistake.

Teams have attacked the Eagles linebackers and safeties and had tremendous success in doing so. Asomugha has been a major disappointment and it seems that he has been used incorrectly. Rodgers-Cromartie spends quite a bit of the defensive plays on the bench. In many ways, the acquisition of Rodgers-Cromartie was a waste. The Eagles should have traded Kolb for a linebacker or safety instead of a cornerback.

It’s ironic that a signing which was celebrated tremendously at the end of the lockout and at the beginning of the new season may have been a mistake. It might have made a lot more sense for the Eagles to acquire some talent at the linebacker or safety positions.

Think about it, they didn’t have an accomplished or experienced linebacker or safety on the roster, yet they decided to add another Pro Bowl cornerback. They were making the decision to start the season with five of the eleven players lining up on the defensive side of the ball being average to below average players.

Think about it. Starting the season with Asante Samuel and Rodgers-Cromartie at the cornerback position along with two veteran linebackers and a veteran safety would have made more sense than signing Asomugha and putting Rodgers-Cromartie on the bench.

Putting the best football team on the field should be the goal as opposed to winning the free agency signing period. Do you think Juan Castillo had anything to say about which players the Eagles signed.? Do you think he would rather have had a proven linebacker or safety on the roster as compared to three Pro Bowl cornerbacks?

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BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
October 6, 2011 11:51 am

Any chance you have to get one of the best at his position on your team, you have to try.

The problems have been with how the personnel are used, not the personnel…..unless we’re talking about the linebacker corps.

stillaphan
stillaphan
October 6, 2011 12:03 pm

Bird- well said! He shuts down 1on1….these damn coaches and their so called “Trickery” is BS…..just Play!!!

Rasheed1
Rasheed1
October 6, 2011 12:10 pm

I think Nnamdi is a great pickup if the Eagles simply smarten up and use him the way they are supposed to…

IMO its a mistake to assume the Eagles would have gotten the safety help or Linebacker help they needed if they didnt sign Nnamdi..

The Eagles simply dont value Linebackers and the only safety we’ve had in the last 12 years worth talking about was drafted by Ray Rhodes.

We’ve had some linebackers but they all leave when it comes time to pay them some good money..

Every guy from Shawn Barber to Trotter to Emmons to Stewart Bradley have been let go without even a second thought…

they simply dont value the position. Never have..

This is not to say the Eagles are cheap…. they put good money into other positions…. but I think we’ve been thru enough seasons to see a clear trend here and its a weakness that we have to live with maybe even beyond Andy because it seems to be a front office issue more than a Reid issue..

DCar
DCar
October 6, 2011 12:24 pm

Don’t forget the wasted $$$ on Brown, Smith & VY, who were luxuries that we didn’t need! I think they got caught up in getting rid of the cheap stigma & went & signed the best FA’s they could. But didn’t consider the priorities & holes that they had! Wouldn’t a LB, Safety & O-lineman, look better than Brown, Smith & VY!? On top of all of that, the last 2 drafts were useless!

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
October 6, 2011 12:26 pm

I only read the title and I disagree with the article. The mistake was hiring the offensive line coach to be defensive coordinator and surround him with a coaching staff that has little experience running a defense AND equipping him with your poor draft picks to play key positions WITHOUT OTAs, a full offseason and full preseason. That was the biggest mistake.

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2011 12:33 pm

My wish lists for FA were the Following

CB – Carlos Rodgers (who is playing very well with the 49ers and excells in the Red-Zone which is still a big problem with this Eagle Defense)
LB – Steve Tullcoh or Rocky McIntosh (this was a must and was ignored)
DL – B Coefield or B Mebane (C Jenkins is s stud and I didn’t think the Eagles had a real shot at him)
RB – T Hightower (wouldn’t have been utilized enough anyways)
TE – D Lee (they actually picked up a player I thought would help a lot
and especially in the Red-ZOne and theh release him on final cuts???)
WR – M Floyd, P Burress or even D Hagan (I wanted a bigger, phyiscal WR and especially for the Red-Zone for D-Jax/S Smith are just not effective on a short field due to their size and R Cooper has regressed and is not the receiver I was hoping he would be
QB – Had no particular QB in mind and think Kafka is a serviceable back-up and especially with a short camp this year, knew it would be difficult for most QB’s to try to learn the Eagles System in 5-8 weeks..
DE – Babin who has played well and has produced..
Safety – Dwan Landry or resign Mickell.. (Drafting Jarrett in the 2nd Round I didn’t like since the Eagles had used 2 Draft picks the year before on NAte Allen and K Coleman who I think have potenital, Jarrett was a 4th Round Value by most Draft evaluators in a very weak Safety Class, Eagles needed a veteran along this back-end of this Defense

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 12:38 pm

Long season ahead – 24 is too good not to make a significant impact. Give it a little time to let everything work itself out..

Rash 1- excellent post – some real good points

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2011 12:41 pm

I think many of us have stated that the LB adn Safety Positions were areas of concern and especially with a 1st Year DC who has spent the last 10-12 yearsa of his coaching career coahing the Offensive Line
Re-signing Q MIkell for 2 years would have been the smart thing to do beacuse of the familiarity and leadership he brings (and is sorely missed) and could have been a nice mentor for the young Safeties on the Roster
The Eagles needed to bring in at least 1 proven LB and preferebly 2 to help with this new Defense.. COunting on LB Fokou,Chanry and some mid-late round Draft selections was very fooling and will take 2 years to overcome for they will likely go thru this same charade next off-season as they will bring in 2-3 new LB’s next year who will try to learn the Eagles system and will be starting all over again..

shamburg
shamburg
October 6, 2011 12:42 pm

This same article could’ve been written inserting the name “Steve Smith” in place of “Nnamdi Asomugha”

Both signings were nothing more than ego boosts.

zoltek
zoltek
October 6, 2011 12:44 pm

you people are all silly… if they just put nmandi out there on the best wr man to man, he would be fine… making him a zone corner has proven to be a horrible idea, because his help is terrible, and he is lost in these stupid schemes… you dont put a shut down corner in zone coverages.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
October 6, 2011 12:53 pm

Exactly zoltek. You make him ineffective and take away what he does best AND at the same time isn’t making your defense any better.

CT_Philly3
CT_Philly3
October 6, 2011 12:57 pm

The biggest mistake began with our first 3 picks in the draft. Danny Watkins was replaced by a journeyman RG in De Van and he had only be with the team for a week! That was a red flag for me and the only reason Watkins is being forced back in the starting lineup is because he can’t be any worst than De Van’s performance, so he mind as well get some experience. Jarrett can’t even make special teams, which tells me he is not good enough to even get on the field! Don’t get me started on Casey Matthews. He is terribly out of his league and should consider dropping 20lbs and becoming a safety…lol! His career as a linebacker in this league is a joke. Just because you have the last name doesn’t automatically translate to a great linebacker. He flat out stinks! Asomugha has really disappointed me and now I see why Revis is a better cornerback. Revis can play either side in zone or man and unfortunately, Asomugha can only play man on the right side. Castillo doesn’t have the defensive coaching experience to devise a defense that allows his personnel to flourish. Let Asomugha man up on the best receiver on the right side and roll a man zone on the other side of the field so Asante can play to his strength in zone coverage. The “wide 9” works well when you have a solid set of linebackers behind it; therefore, it won’t work consistenty with our current personnel. Teams are running on 1st down against us all of the time, which means we need to pull the defensive tackles in more because that gaping hole is killing us. I can go on and on, but I have a feeling they will perform better next week, but I’m very leery about the defense than the offense. Time will tell!!!

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
October 6, 2011 1:06 pm

Nnamdi wasn’t the wasted money. When we’ve all known this team needed safety help since Dawk left (he still would be better than any safety on this roster) and LB help since Trot got old they decided to spend the money where they always do…. defensive line and CB. Which I don’t mind but the blantant disregard for the same urgency with LB and SS position is ridiculous. Did we really need to sign Ronnie Brown or Vince Young when you could have used that money to get better in other areas? Lord knows these guys aren’t doing anything. How much money is Danny Watkins getting this year being a first round pick when you could have drafted a LB with that pick? G, there are plenty of problems with the philosophy of this team and evidence of disregard to key positions on this defense. Sure, Andy at times makes some brilliant moves. I’ll give him that but he also makes silly ones too. Case in point, 2 years ago we could have gotten Earl Thomas which would have fixed our safety issues. But no, safety wasn’t important enough to draft in the first round so they get Brandon Graham and then Nate Allen. Graham, we don’t know what he is but he’s nothing right now and Allen is crap too. And then you still have to sign a high priced DE this year because your draft pick sucks and your other one isn’t good.

But if you take safety seriously you draft Thomas that year and sign Babin this year and now your defense would be a lot better. This team’s personnel issues does not start with the signing of Nnamdi. It starts with their philosophy which causes them to care less about certain positions THAT CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS TAKE SERIOUSLY. Them not signing Dawk wasn’t about money. They figured “hey, a safety will be easy to replace”. Boy did they misjudge that. How many different starting safety combinations have we had the last 3 years? Too many. And I think we’ve had more LB combinations just this year. Gold standard my arse.

BigE
BigE
October 6, 2011 1:21 pm

Navy the Eagles are 32nd in Redzone defense. Yoy can’t get any worse can you?

Erock
Erock
October 6, 2011 1:26 pm

In hindsight they shoulda gotten a LB for Kolb.Or not draft a Pac 10 lb (where noone plays d) and get a stud from the big 10-12..sec.

Nmandi should slide back to free or just play him on the right side and let em lock up one guy.

I still dont understand why the heck there zoning him up.Its great too watch him apply his press coverage down after down and see the q look away immediatly. but why there making him drop to zone is just inept.

Lets kill the Bills.Whose with me!!!?

Erock
Erock
October 6, 2011 1:28 pm

Or resign Q. He is making plays for an even worse team.Heck we’re not a horrible team,thats why we’re all frustrated.Casue they’re better then this and dont sell me there not.Ahhh….i hate loses that sting till Sunday at 12:30. Thats when we can apply some brew to our wounds and root for them to PICK IT THE HECK UP!!

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 1:33 pm

BigE – there you go – that is the absolute first thing you have ever gotten correct (thounderous applause) you can not in fact get any worse the 32nd place – yeah BigE whooo hooo – he finally got one! yeah…………. BigE BigE BigE BigE – the crowd is going crazy…. he got one – he got one..

Wow – I am so proud – I knew you had it in you!

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 1:34 pm

and if that fact is correct – sucks and needs to be fixed – quickly –

daggolden
daggolden
October 6, 2011 1:39 pm

I think the Eagles never ever anticipated getting Nnamdi. Thats why they traded for DRC. They probably had a vet LB and vet safety on their radar but when Nnamdi decided he wanted to play in Philly everything else when out the window. It was like Xmas and they figured the hell with LB and safety we will make it work. How can we pass on possibly the best CB in the game? Cant blame them all the fans were on board with it.

runtheball09
runtheball09
October 6, 2011 1:43 pm

Navy you’re a hater. This team just needs more time. The linebackers are fine.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
October 6, 2011 1:48 pm

paulman how has cooper regressed when hasnt even been given a chance on the field you dont know what he can do right now with them being in love with djack,maclin,smith,and avant not to mention shady if i were them i use cooper more in the redzone with slants,fades,and post so he can use that size you seen what he did in the preson when they played the ravens he went up and took the ball from ed reed, he can be a beast if you use him in the right way knock on wood but if djack or maclin ever got hurt either one for a long time i would start cooper over smith but the eagles knowing them they would start smith and what are these rumors i hear about the eagles going after aaron curry i hear he just doesnt fit overthere with what the seahawks are doing i mean he is 6’2 255 runs a 4-5 ill take it for 5th or 6th rd pick if anybody else knows whats going on with this us know something

daggolden
daggolden
October 6, 2011 1:49 pm

Nnamdi has been beat in zone and man to man. Missed tackles playing man to man and zone. For 12 million a year he should be able to play both.He gets somewhat of a pass in zone coverage. But lets stop acting like he hasnt been lit up playing man to man. Isnt all the coaches fault with him. Balls in the air make a play Nnamdi. That isnt coaching.

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2011 2:01 pm

I agree a little with yoo Daggolden,
But again , I get back to proper planning and at least having a framework
Take LB for example, Knowing that you are not resigning Bradley,Sims, & Gaither and know you are going to a “Wide Nine” Front 4 Scheme, wouldn’t it make sense to obtain a proven LB with experience in that system that can help the younger LB and Draft Picks on how best to play it,etc,etc..That’s why I have been so anal about the Eagles having to make the signing of LB S Tulloch a priority.. Some of the other players are gravy but you have to have solid players as a foundation of a new Defense with new Schemes and Good LB play can help alot of deficiences of a Defense, but the Eagles have never looked at this positon this way and have always been about the CB & DE positions..

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2011 2:02 pm

I think the 1st thing Nnamdi should do is to change his name..
Maybe to “Cat Stevens” or something…

andrew p
andrew p
October 6, 2011 2:07 pm

Sorry G. i disagree, the mistake was made when Reid made Castillo the DC, your sitting here with a guy who prior to coming here hasnt given up a TD in two seasons and you dont put him in the same position that made him so successful? For all you people talking about he still gave up those plays you just dont get it, running with the guy from the line of scrimmage is different than running after him, hes a completly different player because of that 5 yard difference, its like asking Peyton Manning to stop being a pocket passer and start being a running QB, how do you think that would work? what would you think of the coach for asking him to do that? and if he failed who would you blame?

Rasheed1
Rasheed1
October 6, 2011 2:08 pm

Nnamdi’s mistakes come when he is playing zone and off man coverage.. add to the fact that the whole secondary (aside from Asante) looks lost…

Nnamdi is a man-press cover corner… period

Eagles are wasting everyone’s time and their own money playing him in zone and off coverages…

He is a man-press cover corner…

Maybe they can experiment with him in the future… but it makes no sense to bring in a new D coordinator and have this DC implement a new defense where everyone gets switched and moved around like musical chairs… they havent had any real time to get comfortable playing with each other or in the new defense and moving players around soo much simply compounds the problems…

trying to force Casey Matthews into the starting MLB role when he is a rookie and obviously not up to it is a similarly bad decision…

whoever is making these decisions needs an intervention.. This team and especially this defense need to wake up and stop trying to be so cute..

I heard all this talk in the preseason about the green bay Packers and how our defense is gonna be like theirs…lol

this isnt the GB Packers and the coaches would be wise to focus on the talent they have here and work with that instead of getting ahead of themselves

EaglesSuck
EaglesSuck
October 6, 2011 2:11 pm

In a passing league you can use all the corners in the world. Look what Arron Rogers and Tom Brady are doing? this is quite simply not the Eagles year and it happens. 2010 Cowboys are a prime example of a team with talent that never fully put it together but what happened to that organization that made them turn around? firing Wade Phillips.

You need to show Andy Reid the door and start fresh. This team’s defense if you look at all the players Babin, Cole, Jenkins, Nnmandi. These are all physical players. The way this defense is designed has been softened by your coaching staff not allowing these guys to do what got them here. Haynesworth is a perfect example in Washington how they used him there compared to Nnmandi.

Also you wanna know whos getting a major break right now? your special teams players. No one is mentioning how aweful this kickers looks when he is 30 yards and beyond. Dion Lewis cant seem to return a kick for more than 25 yards. Why not have Maclin return kicks? I dont wanna hear cause he’s your starter he did it in college. after all Desean returns punts. What about steve smith returning kicks? Eagles really need to look into signing a free agent kicker

Butch007
Butch007
October 6, 2011 2:24 pm

I don’t know that the Asomougha signing is as much responsible as the lack of the FO to draft Safeties or LB with talent over the last few years. Even though Stewart Bradley is no good in coverage at least I know how would have added size and a lack of fear in the LB core to attack the ball. Even though Quentin Mikell is an average safety, I know he has somewhat reliable instincts and I know he would have added a lack of fear in the Safety core to attack the ball. At this point a lack of fear in attacking the ball on defense is the best this team could have had this year (which is a LOT comparing it to the current defense) but it doesn’t even have that.

It’s a known fact locally that the Eagles FO has squandered defensive draft picking for YEARS while believing they have the cream of the crop. It’s just now that that fact is being exposed nationally.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 2:27 pm

Dag G – agreed – Rash1 – some good points – and I am conceding he is a great press cover guy – but the theory behind great press cover is that no one threw the ball in his direction because he had them so well covered.. in a couple cases teams have thrown the ball in his direction and had success –
just saying press or no press, he may see a few more throws….

so – you seem (and I am sorry if this ruins your cred with other guys on theboard) to get it –

so simplify – how would you break it down – would you ive 24 one rcvr the whole game no matter where he lines up – would you have him take slot, right how would you do it other then say press him – and i actaully want to know becuase your thoughts are decent.. and then the next time we play a team with a solid TE – say Cooley next week – woul dwe be switching again if we said have 24 cover the TE?

No worries if yo don’t answer – I realize I am going out of my way to piss people off this week

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2011 2:28 pm

please Gary. The mistake is not having LB’s and not having a DC.

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2011 2:30 pm

they had plenty of money to go and grab guys. Tulloch was there and would have been an upgrade. They could have traded one of their picks for a solid player. (most teams 3rd best LB is 10x better than the trash we have right now).

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 6, 2011 2:37 pm

Not so sure I agree, G. Castillo was an unknown to begin with. He can study film, know the ins and out of defense and offensive sets all he wants. But one thing he could not do is study or practice or know how he would make adjustments in game situations. Due to this the defense is inconsistent. In my opinion, the defense would still be inconsistent no matter who we added due to this.

The bottom line is, by adding DRC alone to go along with Asante, that would have been an upgrade at the CB spot in itself. Thats how I looked at it…

But this could have been a future move by the Eagles as well, so keep that in mind.But a future move could have been made at the LB spot instead…There’s many different ways to look at it..But who knows how much longer Asante will be an Eagle….But by adding Nnamdi a pro bowler, in no way can be considered a mistake or a bad move.

..

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 2:46 pm

Then Stevo – and I am asking this nicely – how do you explain the situation in Chicago – where they have great LBs and a very very experinced DC and the D is ranked lower then the Eagles (using YPG and PPG)

This is actually another fine article – doesn’t make assumption or accusations – just lays out a couple what if to think about –

guess the big question that the players and coaches need to answer is can the LBs get up to speed or can the D find a way to compensate for them..

Rasheed1
Rasheed1
October 6, 2011 2:46 pm

I’ll tell ya what I’d do with Nnamdi…

I’d start out by putting him on the right side and leaving him there… I’d let him play man press until his heart’s content…

I wouldnt have him follow some Wr wherever he went until I was certain it didnt disrupt the rest of the defense… You have great corner all over so I dont think Nnamdi needs to do too much moving around

the only move I’d consider with Nnamdi is moving him over a TE in certain situations.. And even then? I’d let him play up on the TE just like he would on a Wr.. I would move Cromartie to Nnamdi’s spot whenever I felt Nnamdi needed to cover a TE who was killing us.. I wouldnt even experiment with zone until the offseason where we would have good time to work with him on it and see if it was doable.. He doesnt look good in space.. he doesnt play the ball well either.. he plays his man and is good at that, so lets start him out doing what he is comfortable with..

I would hide my weakness up the middle by playing 8 in the box on 1st and 2nd downs.. If I still had problems with the run with 8 in the box? I would condense my Dline & limit the wide 9 technique to passing downs..

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 2:47 pm

RT7 – good points

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2011 3:05 pm

Navy, the Fact of the matter is we need to look at what OUR team is. A throwing team that scores lots of points often. I dont always like it…. that we cant put long drives together …. that if we dont score many points we cant win……. but THAT is our team. Therefore…. we need to be able to stop other teams in the air. I have long said that in this league, you need 3 starting CB’s. we all know that this is true. SO getting these 3 guys together IS a good thing.

that said- you cant just ignore postions on the field. And that is JUST what reid did. Again!!. LB’s are crap. and the little talent we may have-chaney, is forced to play alongside scrubs. News flash, last years starting LB’s were not very good to begin with, what makes you think their backups will be much much better?

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 6, 2011 3:08 pm

“G” I have to disagree with you here.

The philosophy and coach is flawed.

If you put Juan Castillo over the best defensive unit in the league the results would be the same.

He’s not a defensive coordinator!!!!!!!

A talented coordinator would know how to scheme and protect weaknesses with multitalented players such as Asmo.

use the wide 9 scarcely, have Asmo man up with every team’s top reciever.

Turn your linebackers into gap responsible players with minimal responsibility…. put Jarrett in as Safety to bring hard hits to the safety position.

Cut Page!

Give Nate Allen one more shot and if he fails…cut him too and plug in Coleman.

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2011 3:09 pm

I agree realtalk. Asam is the one leaving at the end of the year most likely. This gives them that room to let him walk without having to resign a guy like… um… who was the RCB last year???? haha. The question will be…. will Andy Asam to get a LB stud or trade him for a 3rd round pick and draft a tweener with a high motor? wanna place bets now?

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2011 3:12 pm

Songs- YES!!!!!! im with you on all of it except the cutting of the players.

I LOVE the wide 9 when its not 3rd and 1. We need LB’s that can slam the gaps.

I think DCM and NNamdi should be on the outside. I dont really know what we do with Asam but im not sold on how things are.

drummerwinslow
October 6, 2011 3:16 pm

Because they had planned to use the wide 9, I believe it was a mistake.

Even if Asomugha were used correctly, we still don’t have the linebackers to stop the run and cover tight ends.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 4:07 pm

Stevo – OK – no argument with your points –

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
October 6, 2011 4:18 pm

Here’s a direct quote from Juan. And I have to say at least he owns up to a mistake:

“Really when he first came here, I thought, ā€˜Here’s a guy who I can use like Charles Woodson. Here’s somebody who can line up anywhere.’ That’s what we’ve been doing. You saw him last week on [TE] Vernon [Davis] and he did a good job. I probably could’ve put him on [TE] Tony [Gonzalez] with different situations, and those are some of the things that I want to be able to do with him. Bring him off the edge and do a lot of things with him. He’s a special guy, but again, you talk about things that hurt. Those are packages that would have got a lot of reps in the offseason. I have to be careful with that because Nnamdi is human. He’s a great person, but he’s human. I have to do a better job handling him. I think what happens, too, with me is that I have to remember he’s human.”….

“What I’m talking about is that last week I had him in regular and in the nickel package playing against two tight ends and two wide receivers. I had him in a dime package. What I’m saying is that I gave him too much without having camp. Those are all packages that we would have worked on in camp. I wanted to shut down different guys and different personnel. I have to understand that we didn’t have the camps and that he’s human.”

All I have to say is duh

grifft
grifft
October 6, 2011 4:24 pm

OK, this is nuts, especially from someone who played in the league. How do you judge whether a player’s multi-year tenure with a team was a mistake in a month of playing time with a month of practice (reduced practice no less) before it? Have this argument midway through next season.

Whether or not they chose Nnamdi, it’s obvious that they didn’t value any available LB’s more than their talent on the team. The problem was not the signing of Nnamdi, because we picked up Jenkins, Young, and Brown after the deal with Nnamdi was signed. Sure, signing him limits the available cap space, but everyone, including this site, praised the pickups during that time frame.

The LB’s that were available didn’t even come to see the Eagles, so what does that tell you? That Nnamdi called ahead and said “don’t pick up an LB, I’m on my way”?

BTW – Castillo plans to simpify Nnamdi’s role in this week’s game. Just sayin’

skman7
skman7
October 6, 2011 5:09 pm

G I liked having Asomugha here. I problem is the coaching not the players. You need to use each player the right way. We should have our three top corners playing man to man defense not in a zone. On offense we be able to move the ball, however, due to Reid and MM terrible play calling in the Red Zone we having getting the benefits of the yardage. Now is time to put up or shut up. I feel Vick and the players will take the game to another level the question is will the coaches be able to respond the same way!!!!!!

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2011 5:58 pm

GRITT- YES!!!!! nnamdi has nothing to do with the problems on this coaching staff. He needs to get bewtter- no doubt.. but to put it all on him is stupid.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2011 8:33 pm

Adding free agents can be successful…..in year 2. Football is not a quick fix sport. It takes at least half a season, and usually a season to a team with as many changes as the Birds to gel. How many new guys are scrambling around in the D backfield? DRC, NNam with Page, allen and coleman bouncing in and out of there like they’re been chosen at random.

The same is true for the Oline. I stated a month ago that the centre to right side of the line (with 2 rookies and a guy in a new position) should be good……next year.

I relly believe the Jenkins, Nnamdi, Allen, Watkins, Kelse additions will pay dividends…in 2012.

Of course this is another reason why it was a mistake to re-sign Vick. I think the coaching staff, like many of you, thought Vick’s ‘abilities’ would be able to hide the inherent deficiencies that are absolutely natural for a team who went through as much changover as the Birds did.

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2011 9:31 pm

I still think very talented players can come and go, but as long as Coach AR remanis intact with his Philosophy and Pass Happy Offense and the continued reliance on “Small but Fast “Defense just doesn’t cut it anymore.. This entire Franchise has become “Soft” under AR and is not capable of winning the tough games that you have versus the better teams and escpecially come playoff time.. When was the last Playoff Game the Eagles won.. Jan of 2009?? that”s going on 3 years ago.. What the Eagles did 5,7,8,10 years ago has little relevance to me in my book… The Recent trends of having losing record at Home (4-5 Last Season and 0-2 so far this Season) are not good and the way the lat 2 seasons eneded playing like crap at the end of the season in meanignful games (Cowboy games in 2009 and Vkikings game in 2010) just doesn’t sit well with me.. Everything on the line for years years in a row and this team was humiliated, not ready to play, not focued on the task at hand is grounds for termination in my opinion..

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
October 6, 2011 10:24 pm

Pman – how’s everything going. Guess you can tell I have been doing my best to piss everyone off this week.

Biggest disappointment for me is that there used to be a time when the Eagles owned November and December – you could just chalk up 8 wins and didn’t even think to worry until the NFCC game.. now – not so much. You knew if they could just hang tough through the first half – the second half was all ours – actually all after the bye was typically ours – guess we will see huh –

MaybeTheyCan
MaybeTheyCan
October 6, 2011 10:48 pm

paulman – couldn’t agree more with every point on AR. It’s been time for him to go for a long time and he continues to prove it as each seaason and game passes. He’s proven that he either can’t learn from previous mistakes or can’t properly apply what he’s learned. Example, he learns that he wasn’t aggressive enough with Kafka so the next week on his first play he calls an I’ll advised bomb when he should’ve at least given him a couple of shorter passes to get himself in a groove before having make a critical timing pass so far down field. Just plain stupid.

Zukny
October 6, 2011 10:57 pm

I honestly am hoping you are wrong on this, but I just haven’t seen what I expected from him.

Asomsuck has not nearly been playing at the level he should be… You can tell me all you want that Castillo isn’t playing him in the right position, but I have seen him make just way to many mistakes..

Hopefully Castillo makes the defense a bit simpler this weekend for him – The only thing I can think is that he had to much on his mind forcing him to make those mistakes… šŸ™‚