According to the Cleveland Plains Dealer, the Philadelphia Eagles are one of the teams that has called the Browns, who will draft fourth in this year’s process and looked into what it would take to move up to the four spot in the draft to possibly draft Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill.
The Eagles have two picks in the second round. They robbed the Arizona Cardinals who eager to secure the services of Kevin Kolb, now they’re not sure that he’s better than mediocre backup John Skelton. The Birds are definitely smiling about that deal.
The word on the street is that the Birds maybe interested in moving up in this year’s draft and selecting Tannehill, so that they have a young developing quarterback on the roster. As you’ve seen with Kolb, Donovan McNabb and A.J. Feeley, the Eagles have been able to use their quarterbacks to make very beneficial trades for themselves.
I think this would be a good move for their future, but it’s not going to make them a better football team this year. I’ll bet you Michael Vick would like to see them use that first pick to make the 2012 team a better squad. If the Birds use two of their first three picks on a player who won’t help them this year, it says that “they’re not really all in this year”.
I never thought I would say this, but I hope they can’t make the deal with the browns. If they are moving up for that reason then I hope it falls thru. Good article G.
I’ve been waiting for this type of story to break. On the mock draft article and the Coples/Poe article I mentioned that the Eagles would be trading up to get Tannehill. You know Andy always likes to have his QB situation settled and we all know Lurie is lying when he says this is Reid’s “make or break” year. Reid was clearly in love with RG3 and I am sure he made an offer to STL but nobody could’ve beat the offer from Washington. Start reading up on Tannehill guys, he will be playing a minimum of 4 games this year as we all know Vick can’t play a full 16…
Ya I hope this is really one of those “Smoke & Mirrors” moves! All I keep hearing about Tannehill is that he is not ready yet… Only other player I could see the Eagles even thinking about at 4 would be CB Morris Claiborne and Id rather see the Eagles stay put and take Dre KirkPatrick or Stephon Gilmor if CB is the position they are looking at. I wouldn’t mind them moving up to 12 or so to snatch up Flecther Cox if he is still there but moving up to 4 to select a back up QB for this year just doesn’t make a hole lot of sense.
If they move up to the #4 spot it looks like Tannehill. Didn’t they bring him in for a visit? Not sure if Morris Claibourne was brought in yet…I just don’t get the Eagles logic. Still looks as if Reid is still in control. You know Howie wants a defensive player. Needs to make up for the REACH of a pick when they moved up to snag Brandon Graham. Let the fireworks begin!
Dman, so its that easy to get you to believe something is true?
Oh my b, I didn’t realize others were taking the bait too. You guys don’t even hesitate to discern fact from low risk speculation just a little? Not at all?
Look at these damn losers!!!!!!
Why would you want to get in the top 10 to draft a player that will not start this year?
You think getting a damn Safety would help this team?
How about a starting SAM?
This is why this team will never go anywhere.
they’ll stockpile rotational players along the line….overstock or corners….but ignore top talent for Safeties.
losers!!!!
Get em songs top ten to get a fucking project quarterback oh boy.
you want a quarterback that’s a project get kirk cousins in the 3rd or 4th.
honestly i like russell wilson depending upon where he is drafted.. its said he has had ” one of the best prodays ever.”. – chris weinke who trained cam newton ,christian ponder, kirk cousins and ryan tanehill all for their prodays
I am coming at everybody who is for doing this deal on here right now here comes DIDDY MODE aaaaaahhhhhhhH. WE HAVE BEEN MOSTLY ALL IN AGREEMENT FOR MONTHS MONTHS THEY NEED TO GO DEFENSE AND NOW YOU GUYS ARE ON BOARD FOR THIS SHIT. I COULD SEE LUCK OR RG3 THIS DUDE HAS ONLY PLAYED QB FOR A SHORT TIME AND YOU WANT TO TAKE HIM. WE DON’T NEED A QB THIS YEAR. VICK IS NOT THE BEST BUT DAM HE WILL DO FOR NOW. THIS GUY IS A PROJECT HE DOESN’T KNOW ALL THE READS THAT A PRO NEEDS TO KNOW. HE JUST STARTED PLAYING QUARTEBACK YESTERDAY DAMMIT, AND SOME OF YOU AGREE WITH THIS. WOW I TELL YOU WHAT IF THEY PASS UP A CHANCE TO GET AN IMPACTFUL DEFENSIVE PLAYER. WHICH THE FIRST ROUND IS FULL OF I WILL CANCEL MY SEASON TICKETS AND LET ANOTHER SUCKER JUMP IN AND GRAB THEM. THIS IS ABSURD AND BULLSHIT, AND THE HELL WITH YOU ALL THAT AGREE WITH THIS. WE OUR NOT REBUILDING RIGHT NOW DAMMIT, LETS TRY AND WIN THE DAM THING WE ARE NOT THAT FAR FROM THE PROMISE LAND BUT THIS IS FUCKED UP.
YES WE DO NEED A YOUNG BACK UP BUT NOT IN THE FIRST ROUND THIS YEAR. ESPECIALLY NOT AT #4, PLEASE I HOPE THIS DOESN’T HAPPEN. okay the rage is gone now.
i dont think we need a young 2nd string quarterback… if we want to replace kafka ok.. my pick is russell wilson becuase of value… all this talk about quarterbacks is depressing me .. i had high hopes for this draft with 3 picks in the first 2 rounds..i was excited ill be disappointed if they trade the picks away
really – the Cleveland Plain Dealer – wow – what a bunch of idiots – the National Inquirer reported Brittney Spears had a sex change, Obama is a radical muslim and was born in another country, a Barbara Bush is really Jennifer Aniston in a fat suit…. of course the Eagles asked about moving up to number 4 – they better have asked about moving up to number 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,and 14 and they better have found out what every team would be willing to give up to move up to 15 – called doing your homework – being thorough, attention to detail….
damn – bad enough when you dipweeds jump all over the team when they don’t say anything – now we are going to jump all over them becuase of what a rag out of Cleveland says?
First 3 picks will be DT/DE and LB –
the last three years the eagles did not bring the guy they drafted in for a visit..
What makes it realistic navy is we deal with cleveland .. they are one of the few teams we have delt with in the past.. i think its 50 50
This would be a bad move to give away all your picks for a overrated QB when you got other needs on this team I don’t understand the logic stay at 15 and draft the best player available. I don’t mind moving up a few spots but to 4 nah not buying it.
turk – exactly – but if Couples and/or Kuelchy are not there I can see them dropping back even – but I think one of those two are the targets –
larrws – 99.994 not going to happen .006 will –
we deal with Cleveland becuase the GM was involved in bringing some of the folks to the Birds and is now taking them there – that’s it…
Guys breath – the Eagles ALWAYS try to get the best deal possible – Reid LOVES draft picks – he is not going to give away his draft picks, he is not going to move up to #4 – if anything – he will trade BACK and get more picks..
in other news the national enquirer is reporting the Bee Gees Robin Gibb is in a coma – Brad and Angelina are engaged and a bunch of other hogwash on par with the article from Cleveland – and speaking of Cleveland for all you Philly whiners –
The city’s failure to win a trophy in any major professional sport since 1964 has earned it a reputation of being a cursed sports city, which ESPN validated by proclaiming Cleveland as its “most tortured sports city”
Big Navy, You and I are on the same page – except for the Kuechly thing – this is the time everybody in the NFL lies, to maneuver draft position to attempt to get their guy.
The Eagles know they are going to be rumored with interest in any
interest in any QB within reach, because people assume Michael Vick is on his way out, with Reid. They’re just taking advantage of that, and using their aggressive assumptions to their advantage.
Listen to Charlie Casserley talk about how he would pump up a player he didn’t plan on drafting, but had knowledge of another team being interested in that player, and he would talk him p so that team would sell high to get who he really wanted. It’s caled posturing gentleman, dont sweat it.
Who do we have evaluating defensive players for he early rounds?
That’s the question we need answered ….
If I’m Lurie I’m paying Modrak as an consultant to choose the best defensive prospects in position and have his alignment stand. period.
This team have sucked ass on defense in the early rounds every since Modrak and Marc Ross left.
Marc Ross went the the Giants and have totally proved the Eagles brass have no damn idea what they wee doing letting him walk.
Now look. We suck choosing defensive players.
Their not interested or are they gong to draft a WR, or a QB in the first round. Bank on it, unless Reid sincerely, doesn’t want his job. They need impact in this draft immediately. There is no immediate impact at those positions in this draft, outside Luck, and Griffin.
I’m on the record saying I want the Eagles to Draft Coples,Cox, Barron or Floyd.
Shitler,
Instead of rebutting everyone else s comments like usual, tell us all mighty one, what should the Eagles do? give us YOUR opinion .
Hahahaha ^^^^^^^ Hilarious Ozzman, thats all that guy does is criticize any and everything people post. He rarely if ever gives his on opinion.
You guys are hilarious. This is a SB year for the Eagles and if they are moving up to #4 then IMO it is to get an impact defensive player they think won’t be there at 15. This FO has made some pretty decent moves in the past 2 seasons so I’m willing to sit back and see what they do before I get up in arms because of rumors from the Cleveland Plain Dealer. I don’t think Tannehill will be sporting Eagles green unless he falls to the 3rd or 4th round. The fact that the Eagles went to his pro day instead of inviting him to the Novacare Complex tells me all I need to know about the potential for this deal.
GCobb for once you and I agree:
“If the Birds use two of their first three picks on a player who won’t help them this year, it says that “they’re not really all in this year”.
GM – hey – I concede I do not know every guy in college coming out – perhaps instead of Kuelchy I should use the phrase – best DE/LB on theboard –
I bust enough chops for people pulling stuff out there butts – I haven’t seen enough college LBs this year to say which one plays that uch better then the other –
but we are on the same page – Defense will be the focus
Ozz, do you have any comment about the specific content in my posts or just how I post?
I think (and I’ve posted all this before by the way) they should draft any of the following players (in no particular order):
Keuchly, Cox, Worthy, Brockers, Wolfe, Hill, Wagner, Couples, Claiborne, Fitzpatrick, Gilmore, Boykin…..Fleener, Kendricks, maybe Poe, maybe Ewing….
I think they should sign Bell, but if they don’t, I get that too – I don’t think that our safties will be that bad if they sure up the LBs. I think our DL was already very good. And I think the CBs will improve if they move Samuel. So I think with much improved play in front and next the Safeties, it will be ok.
Agreed Navy
“You guys are hilarious. This is a SB year for the Eagles…..”
Ummm…no. To win the SB you need a SB capapable QB, That we do not have.
Last 12 sb qbs:
Manning II
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger
Manning II
Manning I
Roethlisberger
Brady
Brady
Johnson
Dilfer
Warner
All but 2 are well beyond Vick in terms of Qb ability. Deny it all you want. Its true,
And yes, there were Johnson (who I’d still take over Vick) and Dilfer (the outlier) but he led a team with perhaps the greatest D of all time….Eagles don’t have that.
Without a SB QB, there will be no SB, Done and done. Deny it all you want. But it is what it is.
ha, maybe to make Jon Hart like me more I should stop discussing content of the conversation and instead post news from days pasts that has been widely REPORTED by REPUTABLE NEWS SOURCES, and title it REPORT so that I look cool. Or post general knowledge concepts about where the team might be leaning, and post it as if I made it up and am posting it for the same time…
Songs –
here is a link so you can look it up yourself:
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/staff.html
now you can stop asking everyone else your stupid questions –
question for you – are you that lazy or that stupid you can’t find any info out for yourself – Modrak is not getting paid by anyone – he is out of work since his complete and total failure in Buffalo – please feel free to correct me if Modrack has since found employment in the NFL – a tidbit from Buffalo:
Bills fire scouting director after decade of incompetence
Tom Modrak was the definition of the “Peter Principle” in the NFL, not anymore. For a decade Modrak was the Buffalo Bills director of scouting, he recommended what players the team should select in the draft. The ROCHESTER DEMOCRAT AND CHRONICLE points out during his time in Buffalo the team failed to make the postseason and drafted turds like J.P. Losman, Mike Williams and John McCargo. The “Peter Principle” states that employees rise to their level of incompetence and stay there.
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Songs –
here is a link so you can look it up yourself:
go to philadelphiaeagles dot comm and look under staff
now you can stop asking everyone else your stupid questions –
question for you – are you that lazy or that stupid you can’t find any info out for yourself – Modrak is not getting paid by anyone – he is out of work since his complete and total failure in Buffalo – please feel free to correct me if Modrack has since found employment in the NFL – a tidbit from Buffalo:
Bills fire scouting director after decade of incompetence
Tom Modrak was the definition of the “Peter Principle” in the NFL, not anymore. For a decade Modrak was the Buffalo Bills director of scouting, he recommended what players the team should select in the draft. The ROCHESTER DEMOCRAT AND CHRONICLE points out during his time in Buffalo the team failed to make the postseason and drafted turds like J.P. Losman, Mike Williams and John McCargo. The “Peter Principle” states that employees rise to their level of incompetence and stay there.
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but Ozzman, in all seriousness – I DONT BELIEVE THAT I HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS. I’m NOT a professional scout, I’m not an NFL employee, I’m NOT an employee of an NFL team. So I don’t sit here and tell you that I know the answers – neither about what they SHOULD do or what they WILL do. That certainly is a contrast to most on here, but that should give you an idea about why I often post in discussion about what others post as opposed to matching their level of arrogance.
navy?
you think Modrak could have done any worse picking defensive players in the early rounds compared to the Eagles the last 5 years?
Brett Schiller- Brett is your real name. Im an insider, dont be upset bc you have to wait until espn tells you whats going on… All joking aside, your an arrogant guy whos claim to gcobb.com fame is being overly critical of any and everyones post. Dont hate on me because i actually post my honest opinions of the team and dont jump down guys throats for there feelings about the team or piggy back on what others comments. Your not creative unless its to attack someone for there opinions. You have a new born baby for goodness sakes you should be happier and loving life guy.. haha
The Eagles really need a pocket passer that makes good decisions.
I like Vick but hes too erratic.
If they lack trust in Vick then why didn’t they tank for better picks??
I think Lurie keeps Reid regardless Shady holds out and the Eagles are .500
@Giants Fan…
Crawl back in your hole… no one was talking to you besides I don’t have the time to slap you around like usual. You consistently troll around Eagles websites trying to undermine this team but it’s ok… you will fail in your efforts.
“To win the SB you need a SB capapable QB, That we do not have.” – Says who… You??? Last I checked you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Last I checked you don’t know squat about football. But hey… Keep saying we won’t make it to the SB with Vick. Every time you make one of those hate filled predictions it works out great for the team.
You say DJax is a punk and thug and is gone…
Front office says DJax has a bright future and is signed to a long term deal.
You say Cullen Jenkins is old and Gone
Front office say Cullen Jenkins is a valuable part of the defense and is signed to finish his career in Philly.
Please keep saying this team will not win with Vick. I am begging you please!!! You have the midas touch… every thing you hate turns to gold.
Hey I got a list for you…
QB’s that have had better help (players and coaches) around them for most of their career than Michael Vick:
Last 12 sb qbs:
Manning II
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger
Manning II
Manning I
Roethlisberger
Brady
Brady
Johnson
Dilfer
Warner
I want you to understand something Giants fan, you don’t know football. Not even a little bit. By the way where are your stats? Normally you’d post a half-assed arguments with a bunch of stats without any context and give a highly jaded incomplete analysis of anyone you don’t like. I love it when you post stats because they show how truly ignorant you are to the game and it’s components. Hey and when you post them please site your source because no one is taking your analysis of anything football related seriously.
vick had 4 -5 tipped INTs and desean dropped 4-5 touchdowns .. that really effected vicks stats last year
Full honesty, Jon Hart, I have never personally known a guy named Brett, including myself. And I by no means am a father. I REALLY hope you don’t think im someone you know that actually is a new father and accuse him… couldn’t be more truthful
If i were the Eagles i would do whatever i can to get DE Michael Brockers from LSU. This guy is 6’5 and weighs 300 + pounds. He’s the next Julius Peppers. Look at what the Giants did in the 2010 draft by selecting DE Jason Pierre-Paul. Some felf it was a reach to draft JPP so early, and that he only started 1 yr as a starter in college.Some NFL experts even called him a bust. Looks like he has proved everyone wrong so far? Anyways, i just hope the birds go defense. But i’m sure the FO will find away to f**k it up
brockers at this point is nothing like peppers hes fat slow and week .. if you want a pass rusher you got get whitney mercilus .. the guy had 22.5 tackles for loss and 16 sacks led the nation.. hes 6’4 261 4.68 but could run a 4.5 i belive … coples is much more like peppers 6’6 285 4.78 speed
I think I posted this on another thread that there is no defensive player in the entire Draft worth mocing up to the #4 Spot, there just isn’t… QB’s Luck/RGIII are about the only 2 players that would be worth giving up a bunch up picks to move up and they will b eloaded in at #1 & #2
Much of the next 20 Selections will all be players with rewards but risks, there are only a few players who will probably be consistent and contributors from Day 1 and become steady NFL players and that’s RB Richardson & LB Kuechley.. Many of the DL, Secondary & WR Players have lots of upside but also some risk to them too ..
I stay away from the following players all together in the 1st Round
DT’s Poe, Brockers,Still, LB Upshaw, OT J Martin, WR K Wright an potential later 1st Rounders like TE O Charles, DE N Perry, CB A Denard
Brockers is DT and not DE so any comparison with to DE Peppers or JPP is not valid and makes no sense.
Brockers is a 6-6 330 lbs run stuffing, space eating DT who is probably better suited for a NT position in the 3-4 Scheme..
I expect Brockers to go anywhere from #9 (Panthers) to #14 (Cowboys)
Pman I agree with your last post, but I believe blackmon could be there target also. I believe he will be excellent.
Paulman..come on man…What about Morris Claiborne?
Are you saying he’s not a top 10 pick and have risks?
I’ll dump DRC at a drop of the dime for Claiborne.
teams have completed near 70% of their 1st downs on 3rd downs throwing to the receiver DRC was playing while with Arizona.
When Asante is gone I think teams will do the same. Arizona knew what they were doing dumping him here.
Another player to say away from at all costs in the 1st Round is CB J Jenkins who has too many off-the field issues (usually involving marijuana) and just cannot be trusted that he will be able to stay clean in the NFL and not get suspended
I think Eagles and Browns may be talking about Browns getting Eagles #15 for their #22 and early 2nd Rounder more than the Eagles moving up to #4
Let’s face it, Browns President Holmgrem needs to make a splash this Draft, they need playmakers at RB,WR, & DE and maybe another QB to make any moves just to be competitice in the very difficult AFC North Division where you are playing the Steelers,Ravens and the improved Bengals twice a year and you have to beat them just to have a shgot at ever making the playoffs..
You get soooo pissy there Lionsden. And I still love the way you try to set yourself up as the great arbitrator and evaluator of all things stats related.
“Bring your stats to the alter of the Great Lionsden, where he, and he alone will rule and decide whether they are worthy of discussion. But of course if they suggest the idea that Vick is not a great QB, then they will immediately be dismissed, as having no validity, for here in the all-knowing mind of the one Great Wizard Lionsden, the quarterbacking supremacy of the amazing VIck cannot be questioned!
Buddy, I’ve played more, coached more, and watched more football than you could dream of. I’ve forgotten more about the game than you have seen.
As for your inaccuracies (of which there are many)
1 – I said Desean was a punk. (I may have said “wannabe thug) He is. A whiny punk. Who quit last year. But go ahead, keep defending a guy who quit. I disagree with the FOs decision to keep him, but at least they got him relatively cheaply.
2 – I like Cullen Jenkins. A lot. However I did point our he is over 31 and has had an injury plagued career. (is this incorrect oh great wise one?) I said this because I think the Eagles will select a DT early this upcoming draft – and thet would be a good idea. Sorry for “undermining the team” by saying this.
Listen buddy, stop getting your panties in a knot every time I….. Check that….its too much fun reading your your predictable “(as you un screaming from your Vick postered room) “Mommy, Mommy the bad man is making fun of Mike Vick again – he’s Undermining the Team!!” posts.
Oh….bty….You know how you’re always saying we’ve got to listen to the FO, coaches, players and take them at their word? (so Naive) ANd you’re always harping on how I ignore what coaches and expert say and blah de blah blah…
VInce Young last week:
“I asked Andy, ‘could I be part of the team again?’ He was like ‘I would love for you to stay here but you’re not a backup quarterback’ so when I heard the big guy, big red, say that it showed me more confidence and more respect that he had for me when he said he wanted to see me somewhere playing,”
“I can truly understand that and they wanted to give Mike Kafka a little more of a chance to go out and compete and backup up Mike Vick but basically he didn’t see me backing up again. He felt like I should be starting somewhere and playing so that’s just the respect he had for me and saw the hard work that I put in to get better as quarterback last year with those guys.”
Andy Reid saying that Young is a NFL starting QB….highest of high comedy…..so keep on keeping on lionsden…keep putting your faith in what players and coaches say publicly.
Are you talking about Morris Claiborne who scored a 4 on his Wonderlic, still has that wrist injury and is a non-tackler too.Is he bright enough to pick-up NFL Defensive Schemes .. He’s a strong cover guy no doubt about it but I think you could draft a CB S Gilmore at #15 who will be a better all around and much more physcial CB as a Pro than Morris Claiborne which is what the Eagles need in their Secondary..I think Claiborne is a lot like DCR, tall, rangy, makes plays on the ball but not very bright and shys away from being Physcial..
Paulman, I’m hoping J. Jenkins drops enough to us for our 1st pick in the 2nd round. Don’t get me wrong the guy has some issues in his personal life but the dude can ball. I watched his video against A.j Green and Julio Jones when he was at Florida and he shut both of them down. If I’m Reid and the FO and this dude is sitting there for the taking with that 1st pick in the 2nd round Im taking Jenkins and crossing my fingers. I think with Asmo and Ryans there is some leadership here that could put him in place.
The Blackmon report is intriguing but it would probably piss me off just as much if they traded for Tannehill. There are still MAJOR holes on this defense that need to be improved big time. The 1st 3 picks in this draft should be defense period. You can find another WR in the later rounds. (Jeffrey,TY Hilton, Adams, Quick)…
I also think we get better play from both MAclin (will come in much healthier hopefully) and Djax (who can maybe just play with a free will again now that he has some financial security).