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Thoughts From Eagles-Ravens

Hats Off To Andy

Andy Reid put his players in a great position on Sunday by calling a balanced game. The head coach took pressure off of Michael Vick by leaning heavily on LeSean McCoy and the running game. Not only did Reid give McCoy a steady flow of carries throughout the game, but he also made an effort to involve some of his other tailbacks; Bryce Brown got three carries and even fullback Stanley Havili touched the ball a couple of times.

When Reid put the ball in Vick’s hands, he called a number of plays that took advantage of Vick’s best asset, his legs. The Eagles ran a couple of quarterback draws for Vick, and had a few designed rollouts that the quarterback enjoyed some success on.

Reid also made tight end Brent Celek a focal point in the gameplan today, and he became Vick’s favorite target, finishing with eight catches for 157 yards.

How About That Defense?

Juan Castillo’s unit was strong for the second straight week, controlling an offense that lit up Cincinnati for more than 40 points on Monday. The key for this unit’s success wasn’t to shut down the Ravens, but to limit the damage they could do.

Star running back Ray Rice did pick up nearly 150 total yards, but I thought the Eagles did a good job limiting the damage he could do. The Pro Bowler didn’t have many big plays.

Joe Flacco was also limited, throwing for just 232 yards on 42 attempts. He did throw a touchdown to Jacoby Jones, but also threw an interception. The Eagles’ defensive backs did a good job shutting down the Baltimore receivers.

DeMeco Ryans turned in another fabulous performance, finishing with seven tackles, a sack, and an interception. The former Texan is performing like the player he was advertised as; a playmaking middle linebacker and a leader.

The unit as a whole was very opportunistic. They played with a bend-don’t-break mentality, and when opportunities for turnovers were there, they were able to make plays to keep the team in the game.

Best of all, the group was able to shut down Joe Flacco on the final drive in the fourth quarter. A year ago, Castillo’s inexperience combined with the lack of talent on the field would have resulted in a blown fourth quarter lead, but this time that wasn’t the case.

Vick Delivers

Michael Vick didn’t play a completely clean game, but he did play like a competent quarterback this week. He started out slow, and his worst moment of the game came on the team’s opening drive when he threw a careless pass to Clay Harbor that resulted in an interception.

Vick did finish the game with a total of three turnovers, but two of them weren’t his fault. His second interception was the result of a tipped pass that went off of the hands of Brent Celek and into the arms of Ed Reed. The quarterback was also credited for a fumble in the redzone on a botched exchange to LeSean McCoy, but I thought McCoy didn’t do a good enough job to secure the ball and was the one at fault.

I credit much of Vick’s improvement to Andy Reid’s gameplan, which as I mentioned previously put the quarterback in a better position to succeed, but I will say that Vick seemed to see the field much better, and did a better job finding the open receivers.

I’ve been as critical of Vick as anyone, but this is a week to praise him. He spent the week hearing all of the doubters (myself included) criticize his game, but he came out an executed his plays very well for the most part, and led the team on a game-winning touchdown drive for the second week in a row, and there’s something to be said for that.

His performance hasn’t changed my view of him as a player at all, but it wouldn’t be fair if I didn’t give him his dues when he deserves it. Vick is going to have his moments, good and bad. We’ve the seen the worst he has to offer, and he we haven’t seen him at his best yet. The question will always be whether or not he can sustain a high level of play, and he’s got a long way to go before he can prove that.

Quick Thoughts

  • DeSean Jackson made a play today that I don’t think he would have made a year ago. In the second half, Jackson caught a 49-yard pass, but had to take a vicious hit from a safety to make it. The 2011 Jackson might have shown some alligator arms, and ducked out of the way of contact to keep himself healthy. This year, DeSean made a play that required him to sacrifice his body. The speedy wideout finished with seven catches for 114 yards.
  • Bryce Brown cost this team a chance for points with his fumble. I was surprised to see the Eagles stick the rookie back in the game after that, but it will be interesting to see how his performance impacts his touches once Dion Lewis returns.
  • As good as Chas Henry was punting the football last week, he was pretty bad today, averaging just 32 yards a punt on five attempts.
  • I thought Nate Allen played a strong game, picking up 10 tackles and breaking up several passes.
  • Brandon Boykin had another solid game as the slot cornerback.
  • Did you all see the play when Akeem Jordan tried to jam Dennis Pitta and was knocked to the ground? It won’t be long before someone else gets a shot at the WILL.
  • Offensive line reserves Dallas Reynolds and Demetress Bell were both called on today when Jason Kelce and King Dunlap went down with injuries, and both performed admirably. We’ve seen in the past how injuries on the offensive line can really disrupt the timing of an offense, but it wasn’t an issue today.

Final Thoughts

This was a really nice win for this football team. They had to overcome a considerable amount of adversity for the second straight week, but this time they did it against a legitimate contender.

I think the best thing that Eagles fans can take from this game is the play of their defense. DeMeco Ryans is really making a difference for this unit. It’s still early, but this defense could be the best we’ve seen since 2008, Jim Johnson’s last year with the team.This unit held a powerful offense to just 23 points, and made big plays and stops when it mattered most.

As for Michael Vick and the coaching staff, it’s a week-to-week thing. You’ll have your share of games where you see the coaches put together a strong gameplan, and Vick executes well, but history says that you can’t count on this to be the case on a regular basis.

The bottom line is the Eagles now have a win that they can feel very good about, and they have a good chance to go to 3-0 when they visit the Arizona Cardinals in Week 3.

 

 

Denny Basens

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RegalEagle
RegalEagle
September 16, 2012 8:48 pm

Vick was improved but a game winning drive would not have been needed 2 weeks in a row if Vick (and his peers) would stop the sloppy stuff and play sound controlled football. There was potential for quite a few more picks today. Thats the problem with this Jekyll and Hyde (for his whole career) QB. Greatness followed by …WTF…

mimitaro
mimitaro
September 16, 2012 9:05 pm

I dont think it was Mccoy who is in the backfield on that botched handoff…

mimitaro
mimitaro
September 16, 2012 9:10 pm

Also, did anyone else notice the 4 NFC East teams are leading in the NFL in yards with 2 games to go this week…

mryan
mryan
September 16, 2012 10:30 pm

Great article Denny, but I have to be the troll on the Jordan comment. He was fine….Rolle or Chaney didn’t see the field..nitpicking. It may not have been a pretty offensive effort, but if we roll 5-2 into the bye I will be a happy camper. Watch out for the Trap game next week against Arizona. If we come out 3-0 (first time since 2004) Andy and Juan should come out w their heads held high.

paulman
paulman
September 17, 2012 12:46 am

Defense really came thru (with a little help fromFlacco and Ravens play calling)
LB Ryan’s played anther strong game along with Nate Allen and DRC
Eagles got a break with penalty on2nd TD pass caught over Asmo who again
Made a journeyman Receiver look like an All-Pro
The play call that left me scratching my head from the Ravens was on final drive on 3rd Down with close to a minute Why not call a quick trap to RBRice who averaged almost 7 yards a touch RVens still had time-out and has a FG Kicker who was. Liming them instead they elected 2 short passes on 3rd and 4th Down to revivers who were covered but the Eagles will take it and Vick McCoy and Celek came up big. Eagles Special Teams are still a concern. Their Coverage Units gave up big yardage their returns game was minimal and their Punt has to be more consistent, lots to work but bottom line they are 2-0 and would have lost these type of Hanes in recent SeAsons so I give them credit for sticking it out.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
September 17, 2012 5:12 am

Fraudman– Wow was that commendation or condemnation? You say the defense came thru (with a little help from flacco and the ravens play calling)? What does that mean? So the Ravens playcalling loss the game for them not because the Eagles took the game? So when the other team makes mistakes its not because the eagles caused it its because of the other team shooting themselves in the foot? But when the birds make mistakes, its because the team was clearly better and the eagles were overmatched? And the birds winning the game with starters Maclin, Kelce, and dunlap injured and playing an AFC powerhouse means nothing now right, fools gold? Your the fool. You go in a complete circle and all you wanna be is right some kind of way and when your proven wrong you look for something else to nitpick. You leave alot of details out so you can somehow be proven right. Funny, if the ravens lost torrey smith and two of there offensive lineman we wouldnt of heard the last of that, esp from you “Oh the birds were fortunate bc the ravens were hit with alot of injuries.” More bs bs bs. Stay in the Boones fraudman and get a clue. You shouldnt of even shown yourself after being proven wrong and wrong and wrong again and again and again as usual.

Remember what you said before the game fraudman:

Ravens 30-Eagles13
Boo Birds out in ernest by 3rd Period and this time are directing their Boos at QB M Vick .. Coach AR pulls Vick late in the 3rd after his 3rd Turnover resulting the Ravens to go up 27-3 aand essentially ending the game.. Foles comes in the 4thQuarter and leads the Eagles to 10 Points in his 2 Possesions/drives of the Quarter and yes with a TD Pass to my man, Mardy Gilyard
Vick gets one more chance in Week #3 against the Cardinals

Is this not a fraud or what?

lionsden
lionsden
September 17, 2012 7:06 am

Right now I am extremely proud of this team. They’ve had adversity, injuries, and the usual boat load of criticism but in the end they won. I am glad that the first two games have gone the way they have because they’ve tested this team early and they’ve passed with flying colors. Last two SB winner’s were 10-6 and 9-7 and had to overcome adversity while playing clutch ball. This team has shown tremendous maturity by overcoming their own mistakes and bringing home victories. I would not change anything from these games because when the playoffs come and they need something to draw on they can recall these games and how they found a way to win.

This team is loaded with tough players who won’t quit. This defense is only going to get better. DEMECO RYANS IS A BEAST(That was my Michael Ervin impression)! Without the turnovers this offense is going to be hard to stop, but the fact that they’ve committed 9 turnovers thus far and still found ways to win shows me that they indeed have championship caliber composure. If they avoid a “trap” game next week in Arizona and win, I will be certain this team will be making it deep into the playoffs this season.

chevron2105
chevron2105
September 17, 2012 9:17 am

I agree with the part about Vick. I mean the guy took a pounding yesterday but kept on getting back up. I was very impressed with his performance. Jackson really held his own yesterday( both on the field and on the sidelines..lol) and I am glad that he and Maclin were active and was able to contribute to this team. The Defense once again was stellar minus a few mistakes. Even the playcalling was more balanced. I found myself double checking to make sure that it was indeed Marty M who was calling plays. lol.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 17, 2012 9:59 am

I have to applaud Reid and Morningwheg for installing a well run high school offence for Vick to execute.

One look reads all day. Stationary Wrs and TEs to hit.

When he followed the simpleton plays he did very well, but whenever anything broke down….as is apt to happen….trouble.

Also still took ridiculously long on many plays to get rid of the ball. You all saw the timer on the pick…almost 7 seconds. Crazy.

Still turnovers are ridiculous. 2 more picks – both his fault. And both botched handoffs are also on the QB. It is the Qbs job to slam that ball into the RBs gut. The one to McCoy was ridiculous . Why was his left hand in there? Again, that’s a mistake coaches don’t allow in high school.

Again – lots of praise around here for the “comeback”. But again, a comeback that was unnecessary. 3 turnovers on the QB when in scoring position = -9 pts = doing what he does best keeping both teams in the game.

lionsden
lionsden
September 17, 2012 3:10 pm

“I have to applaud Reid and Morningwheg for installing a well run high school offence for Vick to execute.”

Well said… All that knowledge you’ve gleened from coaching that 13 to 14 year old girls touch league is astounding. It’s a wonder you haven’t been approached for a OC or HC job.

Vinne the Evicted, Clown Prince of GCobb.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 17, 2012 3:30 pm
Reply to  lionsden

That’s one of the teams I coach right now bucko. I’m gettin’ older retired from coaching full time a while back. These kids are fun to teach. Love the game. Super enthusiastic. And listen to what their coach says. But I understand that you’d think it irrelevant….

I can guarantee you thins…none of my QBs would ever hand the ball off with 2 hands.

Justt rest assured, I’ve played more, coached more, scouted more, and watched more FB than you’ve dreamed.

So you keep on reading your Sheil Kapida, and taking your players quotes to heart, and remember that I’ve forgotten more about the game then you

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 17, 2012 10:00 am

@Jon Hart – I love your comment above…you hit it right on the head, and it pertains to so many others on this site as well! you’re absolutely correct, the Negadelphians, don’t give credit when credit is due…much respect for the “real talk” in your comment!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 17, 2012 10:05 am

@Vinnie you are silly. Everything on Vick…neither fumble was Vick’s fault…McCoy had the ball, defender placed the helmet on the ball, in my opinion that simply was a great defensive play. The botched handoff involved Brown, not McCoy! so, were you really watching the game? The one INT, was off of Celek’s hands, both hands! Couldnt throw the ball much better considering Lewis was all over Celek.

Again, the Eagles are 2-0, as a fan, I’m happy! your no fan, you sound miserable in your above post, unhappy, sour, simply spiteful!

DCar
DCar
September 17, 2012 10:23 am

Come on Vinnie, although he is still playing stupid, reckless football, he still drove us to 2 game winning drives, 2 games in a row. You got to give him some props. I can’t stand Vick either, but we didn’t get this, McNabbs entire tenure here. You gotta give him a little credit. The 1 fumble was McCoys fault (2 weeks in a row), by the way he protects the ball, & the defender timed it perfect & hit it helmet on. Real, the botched, Brown handoff, was Vicks fault.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 17, 2012 10:26 am

So the excuse now….is that the Eagles ran a high school offense against one of the best defensive teams in the NFL. and this NFL team couldn’t prevent the Eagles and the high school offense from moving ball…I don’t think the Ravens defense would like your comment much…Half the times Vick hit Celek it was him going through his progressions….when Vick hit DJ (rook) he went through his progressions…number of other plays as well a few that went to Avant… Also when Vick hit DJAX with the bomb, he went through his progressions…Vick has done something you said he can’t, never has, or won’t do and that is lead two 4th quarter drives for a TD…Eagles 2-0, hata!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 17, 2012 10:31 am

– so you say it was Vick’s fault…Ike Reece says different and so do the others. But hey if it was Vick’s fault then so be it! He’ll probably take the credit for that mistake instead of putting it on his rookie…

The first series, on that INT in the end zone, was a terrible, terrible, terrible, decision….Other than that, when did he play reckless, stupid football? I guess I gotta just get used to knowing that hata’s hate, that’s what they do…

DCar
DCar
September 17, 2012 11:09 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

Real, do you conveniently read what you wanna read? Didn’t I dispute Vinnie & give Vick his props? Or did you completely skip that part? Just because he had tiny bit of a better game, doesn’t exuse him of hi reckless, careless & lackadaisical play. He still, makes stupid decisions with his throws, throws across his body, & throws side arm. BTW, did you watch the game? He f^#@ed up the Brown handoff. He had both his hands in on the handoff? I don’t need Ike “Vick apologist” Reese, to tell me $#!T. I saw the game live & in person, watched the DVR, & saw all of the highlights. If you are going to except all of the positives, you have to except all of the negatives, like I do. You can’t pick your poison. Be Real, like you say you are. Regardless, we won.

reed_richards
reed_richards
September 17, 2012 10:47 am

We beat Cleveland, its “we won because they were Cleveland”. We beat Blatimore and its still negative. Not to mention most eagle fans on this site didn’t even expect the eagles to win the game!! What is going on here?? Its bad enough we have to listen to Paulman’s nonsense (who was wrong AGAIN by the way), can’t we enjoy some victories???? The scary part about this win is that we left several points on the board with redzone turnovers and had we taken care of that, we would have won easy. People, and I don’t mean everyone because there are several fans here that agree with me, but this team is better than some of you give them credit for. These were the games we lost last year.If I didn’t know any better, I would have thought we were 0-2 from some of these posts!!!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 17, 2012 11:07 am

Realtalk. Read closely

1 – Recklessness. Yes, Vick drove the team to the go ahead td. Good job But…do you remember the play before he dove into the endzone? When he tried to throw the ball after the defender had picked him up…and he was being tackled backwards. That was a terrible, stupid ,reckless throw. The refs initailly called it a fumble (wrong) but what they should have called was intentional grounding. Even if they didn’t…look at the play again….the only one near that wobble ball was a Balt defender. Had he thrown that just a bit harder….it would have been a long pick 6. A terrible play…much like the 2nd last play in Cleveland last week. You might be all “the end justifies the means” but sooner or later, those bad decidions are going to result in Ls.

2 – He did not “go through his reads”. These were simple one read plays. At least through the 1st half. To stationary Wrs all day. I think he hit 3 guys in stride all game. (Haveli on an ‘in’. The fly to Jackson, and a shallow corner to Celek. Otherwise all the throws were to one primary target, standing still. Sitting down in front of deep safties. Look…as I said, props to the coaching staff for creating this gameplan to suit their limited QB.

3 – Handoffs. Putting the ball in the RBs gut is the QBs responsibility. Anyone and everyone who has played/coached at any level knows this. The RB has hands ready and eyes downfield, and the QB stuffs it in there. RB reacts to the feel of the ball getting placed in the breadbasket. Vick did not give the ball properly to Brown on the first fumble.

But look at the second closely. McCoy never had it secured properly before he got hit, and its because Vick handed him the ball with 2 hands. Just look. Its right there on the replays. Both Vicks hands were on the ball at the handoff. Any high school coach will tell you what will happen if the upfield hand hits the RBs gut before the ball does. Result: Fumble everytime. This is basic qbing fundamentals.

DCar
DCar
September 17, 2012 11:13 am

Vin, both fumbled handoffs, were given with 2 hands. It needs to stop!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 17, 2012 11:18 am

Exactly Reed….both these wins should have been easy. But they weren’t. Why not?…its not ’cause of the D….not because of the RB…not because of the Wrs….and certainly not the TE….the K has missed one FG….but there haven’t been any glaring disasters on spec teams…no kr returns against….so why have the games been close.

Turnovers.

Here we are after week 2 and the QB is making the exact same mistakes as last week. – despite a very simplified passing attack this week. ( Int across body, High and wide Int like to Maclin last week, stupid attempted throw when being tackles – twice this game).

He also had at least 3 more passes that went right off Balt defenders. It is just blind luck that they aren’t going tohe other way.These are the same stupid mistakes….how they haven’t been more damaging is a tribute to the team’s defense.

Again…in 2 games:
Vick has thrown 6 ints. On pace for 48.
Vick has 13 throws that have hit defenders before Eagles’ – On pace for this to happen 104x. (wWr’re pretty lucky right now to only have 9 turnovers)
Credited for 3 fumbles…..on pace for 24.

….go ahead…revel in the victory…..but like last week….you cannot be happy with the QBs play.

We’ve won at Cleveland and the home opener….should this be expected? Why is this being considered something special??

On pace for 48 ints and 24 fumbles…..and you don’t think that’s going to catch up with this team at some point?????

lionsden
lionsden
September 17, 2012 3:16 pm

You must really be cramping today giants fan…

Some one help me out here… when was the last time you’ve seen a “fan” so bitterly disgruntaled by their supposed team coming up clutch? Championship teams overcome adversity even if it was their own doing. What we’ve seen the last two weeks is championship resolve and although it was not pretty, it is very encouraging.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
September 17, 2012 11:20 am

Great game and win. Still very concerned about the turnovers, but it is what it is. Vick made plays when he had too and thank God they finally featured Celek. They can get that every week if they want it.

So pumped about Ryans and Kendricks. Defense came up big in the 4th quarter.

Biggest worry now is the o-line which was already a concern. Now it looks like Kelce may be out for the season.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
September 17, 2012 11:25 am

Vinnie, you are just too consistent in your inconsistency. Aren’t you worried about McCoy who has now fumbled in 2 straight games? He is on pace for 16 fumbles this year. Aren’t you worried about the O-line which is down 2 starters from a year ago? Worried about Nnamdi who was awful yesterday? Nate Allen on the TE? All of those things are concerns of mine including the interceptions, but I am not just going to focus on Vick.

Just enjoy an Eagles victory for once in your life.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
September 17, 2012 11:26 am

Why do you clowns give this CLOWN vinnie the time of day? He’s obviously not an Eagles fan. No fan of the Eagles would bash the QB so relentlessly when that QB had an OUTSTANDING game aside from ONE ill-advised pass.

Good win for my Birds and a great come from behind drive by OUR FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK Michael Vick.

I hope we dismantle Arizona from the beginning cause I don’t think I can take another one like this three weeks in a row.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
September 17, 2012 11:28 am

Oh and I forgot to mention Boykin. Dude was awesome yesterday shutting down Boldin and then skying to knock down a pass downfield. He needs to be in the game during any hail Mary opportunities.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 17, 2012 11:40 am

I don’t believe my eyes – Juan Castillo is saving the Eagles season

I saw a Derrick Gunn interview with Shady, and McCoy said that the Ravens D although extremely strong sacrificed speed for all that size and the Eagles speed advantage was a major reason the Eagles won

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
September 17, 2012 11:42 am

2 consecutive 1 point come from behind victories while the defense shuts the door on the opponents O who both had plenty of time to drive for a potential game winning field goal —— Go D and Juan, I’m eating crow

jakedog
jakedog
September 17, 2012 12:23 pm

I remember plenty of games mcnabb executed, took care of ball, yet when the game on the line we all knew he could not lead the team in a fourth quarter (late) drive to win the game, vinnie you’re too jazzed up about stats, the stats that matter are 2-0, and Vick deserves a lot of credit for winning drives in both when it counted, the problems I see ahead still relate to the head coach

Rasheed1
Rasheed1
September 17, 2012 12:35 pm

*There was some real GROWN MAN football being played in South Philly yesterday.. I’m of the birds standing up to the Ravens and winning the game like that.. That will give us a huge boost mentally.

*Demeco Ryans = Beast

he made all kinds of plays yesterday. His presence has made all the difference in the world on this defense. We still have the occasional breakdowns, but the players look alot less confused, and thus more confident play in and play out.

*Desean Jackson & Bent Celek deserve game balls. With our speed outside, Celek should have more games like this. Vick is starting to use him more consistently. Jackson gets credit for catching all those passes… Last year he would dropped more than half of those.. Keep up the good work.

*Hope the center position doesnt mess everything up.. Kelce is an important piece

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
September 17, 2012 12:52 pm

How is Spagnulo doing down in NEw Orleans? Remember the ‘clamor’ for him? How is that going for him? Now looky looky at Castillo…

Could this be the best Eagle defense of the Reid era? I made several comments (they were called excuses back in the day) about the turnovers..

but now objectively – how many points would this team have given up in two games if we discounted points of off turnovers? Imagine how much better this D could be if those turnovers became field goals and put the other teams behind…

Oh – I have not heard an Eagles can;t draft Defensive talent comment for a while? Where you all at…

Does anyone want to be critical of Nate Allen? How about the safeties – have they been ‘exposed’

Is Kendricks out of position? Seem to me he could play anywhere and be fast enough to get into position –

Jake – problems ‘relate’ to the head coach – really?? Love to read you expound on that..

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 17, 2012 1:57 pm

you said…. He f^#@ed up the Brown handoff. He had both his hands in on the handoff? saw the game live & in person, watched the DVR, & saw all of the highlights” you said this…

Well I am curious to you wear bifocals? are you blind? if you truly taped the game…go to the 2nd quarter the 10:08 left in the 2nd quarter and there’s the play…

well I have DVR too..I had to tape the game because my son had a pop warner game yesterday…

the botched handoff….it CLEARLY SHOWS ONE HAND ON THE BALL OF VICK’S, HANDING OFF TO BROWN….

so AGAIN>…..did you watch the game?!!!!

I’ve watched the botched hand off over and over again, and at no time do I see Vick with two hands on the ball….or does 1 mean two, to you and Vinniethesister?

DCar
DCar
September 18, 2012 1:20 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

You are right Real, I got it mixed up with the McCoy hand-off. LMFBO!!!! My bad! Vinnie is getting out of hand with the Vick hate. I don’t like the way he QB’s either, but gotta give him some props, when they are warranted.

Erock
Erock
September 17, 2012 2:16 pm

I see nothing to be concerned about after this win. There an AFC powerhouse who came into our place and tried to bully us. They ended up getting bullied(wideouts dissapeared and o-line was manhandled) and here we are talking about Vick and one pick?

I see him improving to the point were he has zero picks for a 5 -6 week span. His improvising in the pocket yeilded us huge gains so i’ll take it. PLus how many times did he hustle out of bounds?

He put on the cape when he needed too.

Boykin is a special player…not everyday a rook comes in and locks a vet reciever down during a game.Plus he seems to play confident every week…no moment is too big for him and hes learning from two great corners.

NA has to realize he has no deep help there and not lose one step on the stutter and go. ok…he almost gave up another …almost almost almost…almost doesnt count in football…..its win or lose.

Anyone else notice the quicks and power Flether Cox has inside?

Ryans on that game alone is the leader of the D.

House the Cards and bring on the Champs.

Paul….Marty Gilyard just called and said your check should be there soon…he’s gonna need some positive write up on here today as well.As you’ve stated before he shoulda made the 53 man roster.

Frank22
Frank22
September 17, 2012 2:25 pm

Simple is better! I have been stating that for a while… Payton Manning runs one of the simpelest offenses in football, always has.

This was one of the best football games I have seen in a while. From the standpoint of hustle, intmidation and real hard nosed play.

Mike Vick did not have the best game, as far as decision making. Ill tell ya one thing tho, he has some guts. I thuroughly enjoyed watching this game.

This team has an edge to it. One that they did not have last year. Last year if they faced this same Baltimore team, it would have been a blow out.

There were def somwe negatives to there performance. A win is a win is a win!

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
September 17, 2012 2:28 pm

Vinnie Wants Style Points
Eagles Fans want WINS

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
September 17, 2012 2:39 pm

2 games into the season I’m prepared to give Juan Castillo an apolgy for the way I dragged his name through the mud. Juan said that people woud say that we would say e ws happy tht he ok the DC job.I’m pepared to eat my humble pie. This defense looks et and it willonly ge etter as tme oes on. There, ‘e mannned upand gt tha off of mychest.
Now all of youDesean haters, dare you to do the same. Look at the game he had yesterday, thats heart He had a magificent game and showd courage agianst the ravens D.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 17, 2012 3:01 pm

I don’t want style points…I just need people to recognize that we are 2 ridiculously BS lucky plays from being 0-2.

1 – Vick throws the ball into Browns player’s hands – he drops it.
2 – Ngata in process of bodyslamming Vick and, while in air, tries to throw ball to no-one – with only a Ravens defender in the area. (Thank god for the replacement refs because that was intentional grounding at the least).
That ball travels another 34 feet in the Air and we’re watching a Balt LB go 90yrds the other way.

Yes – an the 2 very next plays the Eagles scored TDs. I get that.

But what you guys don’t get, is that this kind of BS luck will not last. The wheel will turn. If Vick keeps making these stupid plays, eventually the Eagles’ are going to pay.

By my count, he’s now hit 13 defenders with his throws….eventually they’re going to start catching more of them.

I saw no evidence this week….Terrible 1stQ pick, high to Celek, and two other terrible decisions – the aformentioned with Ngata and the other as Lewis was taking him to the ground and he tried to throw…that Vick has corrected these boneheaded decisions….and they’re going to haunt.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 17, 2012 3:02 pm

3 or 4 feet

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
September 17, 2012 3:11 pm

I have to admit that I was wrong about Demeco Ryan’s decline….He’s a beast!

Also, being Juan’s most starch critic (Last year gave us every reason to be harsh) …He called 2 hellava games.

Asmo is worrying me a lil…but if we clean up these turnover issues, this team may get to the big dance.

I’m changing my prediction…….11-5

Which will end my posting on Gcobb after the season.

Navy! …….. You’re in the lead Bro.

And for the sake of us ending the SB drought….I’ll be willing to eat crow.

DCar
DCar
September 18, 2012 1:22 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

WOOOW!!!! Humbleness & humility! I’m proud of you bruh!!!!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 17, 2012 3:19 pm

ONe more thing – though I think more people will agree here.

Reid is getting a lot of praise for his gameplan and adjustments and all that, but we saw again, that he comitted the same mistakes he has in the past.

Timeouts. Its being glossed over, but Reid completely botched 2 timeouts early in the 2nd half.

First he challenged a spot of the ball…..and while the original placement probably wasn’t correct….there was no way they were going to get a first down on a new spot, so it was still going to be 4th down regardless. That was one timeout.

Then the 2nd came after Desean was nailed OB after that nice catch. I understand Desean was winded a bit, but he was OB. Why the timeout? You can’t just run a FB dive on the next play. We’ve seen this before after long plays and Eagles take a TO because they can’t seem to get up to and organized on the LOS after a play of more than 40.

Now….again…people going to say…clutching at straws…..but timeouts have been a big Reid issue….and here we were again…..5 mins to go in a close game int he 4th with only 1 TO.

Just sloppy.

paulman
paulman
September 17, 2012 3:46 pm

Who cares JH,
If the Eagles read my posts and get more fgired up and play better, then so be it.. It was a great game yesterday and the Ravens had a chance to put the game away in the 3rd Quarter up by 17-7 and with the ball after an Eagles Turnover.. Flacco ha a poor 2nd Half and the Eagles took advantage which is a great sign for these are many types of games they have lost in the past..

Xevious
Xevious
September 17, 2012 4:06 pm

Well I just don’t get it. We have 2 1-point wins that should have been a lot bigger. The defense is really good this year but when the weather gets cold we cant afford these turnovers. People are happy, I get that but we cant survive yet win a SB with a turnover machine at QB. Something will eventually break, the fact 2/5 of his offensive line is out should be a huge worry. Im a huge Eagles fan but im a realist..Vick cant continue putting the team in this position week after week.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 17, 2012 4:16 pm

Hmmm is Castillo a legit dc? I’m just asking?

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
September 17, 2012 4:27 pm

HAC – no doubt the D is loaded with talent – not sure if it is Castillo, Bowles, Washburn, or hell Ryans and frankly do not care! One things lost was the eagles enjoyed a very nice time of possesion advantage throughout the game and that deep D line rotation…but again – who cares after 2 weeks we are top of just about every D category..

watching replays the most amazing play – did you see how HIGH Boykin got on that 4rth qtr play – that was some serious air

JoeFriday
JoeFriday
September 17, 2012 4:44 pm

My cousin is a UGa grad, was on the phone to me 5 minutes after the Birds drafted this young man. He said Boykin was an outright steal in the 4th round, and we’d love the way he plays. Nicky is getting a better Christmas present this year, he was dead on right about #22.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 17, 2012 4:53 pm

I was very critical of AR for hiring Castillo and for going with Vick… He knows more than me and the rest of the clowns on here. It’s great to criticize etc… But these guys get it. They also understand that sometimes it doesn’t go your way. It took huge balls for AR to make those two decisions.

Xevious
Xevious
September 17, 2012 5:16 pm

dont know why my comments keep getting taken down

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
September 17, 2012 6:56 pm

Fraudman– AGAIN your trying to discredit this defense and team by saying Flacco just had a bad second half instead of saying that the Birds were the cause of his poor second half. Thats the stuff im talking about. Because you picked the Ravens to blow the birds out and were proven wrong wrong wrong your trying to make excuses for why the ravens beat themselves rather than why the Eagles beat them. You talked about DRyans being washed up and not a every down LB and that hes not a top 15 MLB. Your ridiculously clueless and say stuff without thinking. You wouldnt get called out if you spoke with some sense.You root for the Eagles to lose and pick against them every week. Your already getting the ball rolling on the cardinals this week saying they have a tough defense and this and that your just a fraud. Can’t possibly be a Eagles fan, so now your new name is fraudman..

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 17, 2012 7:08 pm

Jon with your permission may I use the ‘fraudman’ moniker for that dipshit?… It is a perfect name for him. Makes a million predictions and when they don’t work out he is full of excuses

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
September 17, 2012 7:15 pm

havacigar– haha yes by all means! Its his name lol R.I.P to paulman

romelloscuggs
romelloscuggs
September 17, 2012 8:05 pm

I find it extremely odd that vinnie complains about vick, mcnabb, (a little reassuring and highly understandable concerning young but nonetheless) and young yet praises kolb and foles. I wonder why smh. Now we play Arizona and your boy Kolb is starting. If he stinks it up will you critique every down he played? Please don’t disappear Mr. Victor after the game at least calling you out. I have read GCOBB for years never posted only read them but it is time to start calling people out. I

romelloscuggs
romelloscuggs
September 17, 2012 8:08 pm

Oh and for the record we have a really solid team this year considering the disparity that exists in this years nfl teams. I really think we can do some special things barrring serious injuries to key players, we cut down on turnovers and shore up our offensive line. Eagles all the way (true eagles fans)

Stevo
Stevo
September 17, 2012 9:32 pm

That Manning fellow is no eli manning… when will he learn? 3 picks tonight so far…. he’s just not smart enough right vinnie?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 18, 2012 8:05 am

I suspect you find a great many things “odd” romelloscuggs.

I suspect that happens a lot because you cannot read.

I have stated continually that McNabb was the best birds QB to have played for the Birds – though he had a precipitous drop off after 2009.

You really going to pull your not so subtle race card BS because I pointed out that VY is not a good QB? Then you better call the coaches of the 3 teams that cut him over the past 2 seasons racist too, because they apparantly came to the same conclusion.

The enthusiasm for Foles/Kolb is not so much a affirmation of their talents, in as much as it was a recognition of McNabb post 2009 (an analysis again arrived at by the clearly racist managemtent teams in Philly, Washington – who benched him for Rex Grossman!! – clearly a decision motivated by race – and the Vikes – though we all know how they feel about African Americans up in Minny eh?) and an understanding that Vick is still not a good QB.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 18, 2012 8:10 am

Stevo,

I mentioned on here over a year ago that I wanted no part of Manning because he’s finished. Guy can’t throw the ball more than 25 yards. He’s had 4 neck surgeries.

He’s done. Of course you didn’t notice I said that a year ago, because you only read what you want to read.

As an aside….I would have found it funny if he had gotten the ball back and orchestrated a comeback….guys like you would have to announce that he played a good game!

Isn’t that right? According to some of you, all that matters is the final drive (or in fact the final play)…everything that happens before that….even if it is the sole reason a final drive is required….is irrelevant!