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Offensive Tackle Eric Fisher Could Be The Eagles Top Pick

Central Michigan’s offensive tackle Eric Fisher wants to walk in the footsteps of current San Francisco 49ers All-Pro left tackler Joe Staley, who also played his college ball at Central Michigan.  Fisher said he saw Staley’s picture on the wall when he was being recruited at the school as a high schooler and he said to himself, “I want to follow him there”.

He didn’t just say, I could tell from the way he works and the execution of his technique that this young man has put in the time and the work to get himself ready.

The big, lean blocker caught my eye at the Senior Bowl practice yesterday and I couldn’t take my eyes off of him during the one-on-one pass drills and nine-on-seven run drills, then the team drills.  He was kicking butt and taking names.  He dominated everybody yesterday including fellow likely first round pick Texas defensive end Alex Okafor.

The first thing I thought when I watched Fisher doing the drills at the beginning of practice is “That is a grown man”.  He 6’7″ and he weighs 305.  This kid is going to get bigger and stronger.  He’s got the frame to put on a 20 or 30 pounds, which will make him stronger, but still just as quick and mobile.

Fisher put Okafor on his back on a drive block during the nine-on-seven run drills.  The Texas defensive end isn’t a very good run stopper, but it was unusual for me to see him put the defender flat on his back at this level.  This young man has been taught very well because he rarely gets out of position.  This kid was a beast out there yesterday and he was dominating everybody who came near him, yet he doing it while under control.

Okafor, who is one of the best pass rushers in the draft, did have a good pass rush against Fisher, but it wasn’t a clean win for him.  Fisher dominated the Longhorn pass rusher for the most part, all day long.

The Central Michigan product is a very good athlete and he has everything it takes to be an outstanding offensive tackle in the National Football League for a long time.  I like the fact that he could play either offensive tackle position right or left, but he’s playing the all important left side right now.

Fisher is  disciplined with his technique.  He stays balanced and doesn’t make the mistake of trying to attack the pass rusher.  He strikes him with his hands, then gets them back into the strike position to strike again.  I like the way he keeps himself in position for the next move.

The Central Michigan blocker does a good job of using his hands to stop pass rushers from grabbing his pads.  I like the fact that he’s got a mean streak, but he keeps it under control.  You could tell that he would love to totally finish off the pass rusher, but he maintains that discipline.  I love the way he finishes a block by staying after the defender until the whistle blows.

Is he worth the fourth pick in the draft? YES. I saw nothing to suggest that he wouldn’t be.

The Eagles have stressed the fact that they’re going to draft the best player available, when they pick, so I could see Fisher coming to Philadelphia.  He’s got the total package, plus he’s right handed but has been playing on the left side.

I talked to him after practice and I like this kid.  He’s a sharp young man, who is focused and motivated.

The youngster says he could play either tackle position, which would give the Eagles the choice of using him to replace Jason Peters if he can’t come back from the Achilles tear, or he could play right tackle and allow them to move Todd Herremans to the right guard position.

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Tech Triumph
Tech Triumph
January 24, 2013 7:51 am

I do hope the Eagles commit to drafting the best player available.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 25, 2013 1:54 pm
Reply to  Tech Triumph

Good point Tech, I believe the Birds will finally follow that course of thinking. They implemented that last draft and look at all the gems they came back with. Years prior guys like Banner tried to keep the cap under control and bring guys in with marginal talent, guys that can play the position but not at a particularly high level or good at all. That allowed them to go out and get a bunch of stiffs yet no impactful guys. Cared more about the Cap/Money over the success of the team. So this new thought process is what the great organizations do. Mainly the Steelers and Ravens. They just stay right where they are in the draft and always get a good player.

mr1charlton
mr1charlton
January 24, 2013 8:48 am

ditto, thats all I want also . 2 yrs ago Earl Thomas was the best player @ # 12 and we missed him and that will haunt us for yrs to come ( thomas is in his 3rd pro bowl) trading back a little isn’t a bad thing as long as we draft correctly with the extra pick

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 24, 2013 8:06 pm
Reply to  mr1charlton

Oh my God, get over it already and move on.
The Eagles can draft FS DJ Swearinger and they will be fine there. People, you gotta move on from the Earl Thomas pick. It’s over, for three years already!!!

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2013 10:10 am

Eagles need as many picks as they can get in the first 4 Rounds
If they can trade back from #4 to later in the 1st Round, they should be
able to get a couple of extra picks and then use T Cole, Maclin and or others in Trades to get more picks in that 2nd-4th Round area…

Tech Triumph
Tech Triumph
January 24, 2013 11:14 am
Reply to  paulman

I just don’t see a lot of teams that are going to want to move up in this draft. But who knows, the new salary rules may change this way of thinking.

Under the old rules there is no way teams would want to move up for anyone in round 1.

Frank22
Frank22
January 24, 2013 10:28 am

Tthe only position, other than Defense, I would not mind see them going is tackle. I have a feeling Peters will be healthy and ready to roll. Will he be the players he was last season? Thats a tall order. I dont think you trade this #4 pick, take best available and see what we can get.

Paul, why trade Maclin?

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2013 10:46 am

Maclin in final Year of his Contract and will want a big Contract
I can’t see the Eagles having D-JAx ($50 Million) & Maclin ($40-$50 Deal) on the same Roster.. Word is that Maclin is homesick and doesn’t really like the Philly area and would prefer to play for hometown Team of SL Rams or even KC Chiefs due to his familiarity of Coach AR.. I think his Value is as High as it will ever be and if I could get a 2nd Round Pick for hime or even a HIgh 3rd Round for him, I jump on it..
I just can’t see both D-Jax/Maclin with both big Contracts on this Team in 2014 (and especially for average production)

atra1781
January 24, 2013 10:53 am

I am not impressed with Maclin. They need. Big physical receiver with good hands. Trade down gran a few extra picks and build.

Eagles should look into mike wallace this offseason.

Frank22
Frank22
January 24, 2013 4:12 pm
Reply to  atra1781

Mike Wallace is not a big, physical receiver. He is in the mold of a Desean Jackson.

Frank22
Frank22
January 24, 2013 4:13 pm
Reply to  Frank22

mike is listed at 6 feet 190 lbs. So in actuality, hes probably 5’10 180-185

Frank22
Frank22
January 24, 2013 10:59 am

I see your points, but I think I am on the other side of the fence. I say let him play out his deal and see what happens. He seems to be a little bit of a prick, always seems arrogant when he is interviewed. That dosent bother me, just a observation. Say the eagles trade him, than what?

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2013 11:04 am

Off of a 4-12 Season, the Eagles have very few Players with actual Trade Value
I keep bringing up Maclin and Trent Cole since they probably have the Highest Value of any other Eagles… (maybe Cullen Jemkins also)
the Rest of the Veterans either have too large of Contracts (Vick/Asmo/D-Jax/Ryans) or have health Issues and age creeping up them (Herremans/Patterson/Celek)

If the Eagles want to rebuild on Defense and add 5-7 Quality PLayers to rebuils that side of the Team, this is the Draft to do it but they need 2 Additional Picks in the earlier Rounds which means some other Players on the Roster who may not be long-term Players for the Eagles and Chip Kelly may be the ones that need to go

Everyone has to keep in mind , a very healthy 2011 Eagle Team was 8-8
and banged up Eagle 2012 Team was 4-12, the Reality is that this Core Of Eagles Players has been 12-20 since the 2011 Season, so I believe that no Player is untouchable as far as Trades go if it improve the Overall Team
WR’s are a dime a dozen… Both Maclin/D-Jax’s Production #’s Rank in the #40-#50 Range of WR’s in the NFL so we are not talking about replacing some Top notch Production # here..

jakedog
jakedog
January 24, 2013 11:21 am

Paulman, you have to lay off these side angles of this player homesick, that coach prefers to stay on the west coast, etc. are you homesick living away from probably not and that’s a good thing for us

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2013 12:04 pm
Reply to  jakedog

No homesick for me Jake,
I moved away in 1988 and haven’t looked back at the ceasepool that is PHilly area.. IN fact, I don’t how people even live up in the Northeast anymore..
Traffic,Pollution,Crime,Taxes,Cost of Living.. You can have have it..
My extended Family all still live in South Jersey, so I vist twice a year and that’s enough for me.. I miss the Beach and the Food and that’s about it
but even the Beach Towns are overriden with people and congestion that it;s a nightmare to park,eat out,etc,etc..

Frank22
Frank22
January 24, 2013 11:47 am

I honestly believe Maclin will have a ton more success with Foles at the helm. You could see the rapport that was building last year between the two. I would prefer to hang onto Maclin and let him play the deal out. You could see Mac is a receiver predicated on getting the ball at a spot and on time. That is def not mike Vicks strength. I do not know this for a fact, it seems like it could be a strenght of Nick Foles.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
January 24, 2013 2:57 pm

Paulman is correct about one thing. Either DJax or Maclin are gonna go. Who it will be is anyones guess.

DMAN
DMAN
January 24, 2013 3:41 pm

Paulman i agree with 100% on trading Maclin. I’m also ok with Desean Jackson being traded too. We need to get bigger at WR. I know Kelly likes the small quick receivers, but size and speed is what this team needs. Multiple draft picks is what this team needs. I’m all for it. But we all know that the Eagles are smarter than everyone else and will go against the grain like always…

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2013 4:06 pm

Rams would love MAclin as a consistent outside Target for QB Bradford
Rams haev 2 1st Round PIcks (#16 & #22), and 1 2nd Round Pick (#48) and I believe 2 3rd Round Picks as well with that big trade with the Redskins last Year..
I would send Maclin to the Rams for their 2nd Rounder (#48 Overall) in a Heartbeat

upperdecker19
upperdecker19
January 24, 2013 4:28 pm

I honestly can’t imagine getting anything better than a 4th rounder for either Cole or Maclin. And I’d do it in both cases. Those top 3 round picks are rarely traded for anything other than a QB or pro bowler. Randy Moss went to the Pats for a 4th rounder years ago. Can’t imagine Maclin fishing anything better than that. But, if the offer is there for anything prior to the 4th round….I give a huge hell ya!!!

EaglesSuck
EaglesSuck
January 24, 2013 4:30 pm

Revis is available for the right price. Make a offer for this years 2nd rounder and next years 1st rounder and id make that deal in a heart beat. Revis is NOT Nnamdi. I know the injuries but I dont care. The best corner in the league. He will shutdown Victor Cruz twice a year, Shutdown Dez Bryant twice a year he is more than worth it and he’s only 27 years old.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 24, 2013 7:31 pm
Reply to  EaglesSuck

28 with those money demands, coming off injury… By the time the eagles are in contention he is over the hill… They have to build young

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2013 4:51 pm

Revis will be 28 in July, coming off major ACL Surgery and who knows how this impacts his Lateral Movement and Overall Speed,
No way do I as a 4-12 Team in a rebuilding mode spend a 2nd Rd (36th Overall) and a 1st Rounder in 20114 (probably a Top 10) Pick for a Player with heatlh Concerns.. This Eagle Roster needs a make-over and like 20 new Players and is 2 Years away from competing for a Playoff Spot.. Why mortgage the Furture for an expensive Veteran whose best years are probably behind him
If Eagles were a Playoff Contending Team right now, than maybe It would make sense, but Eagles need to follow the Colts and Seahawks Blue PRint..
Cut the CHord with Players over 29 Years of Age and draft,draft and acquire young players and Coach them up instead of relying on short-term injured,overpaid,underperforming players from other Teams,.Systems,etc,etc The Eagles have already done this the last 2 Off-Seasons with disastrous results.. Why go down this road when this Eagle Team is far from contending in 2013…

DMAN
DMAN
January 24, 2013 5:08 pm

I agree once again Paulman. Revis sounds tempting, but the Eagles need to stock pile picks. Plus Ashmo really put a bad taste in our mouths. And I’m sure the Eagles are a little gun shy at this point when it comes to high prized free agents. Not gonna happen this yr. It’s trade away what we have, and stock pile picks. I truly believe this is the directions the Eagles are going in.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 24, 2013 5:28 pm

I would not be surprised if Luke Joeckel, Lane Johnson, DJ Fluker, and Eric Fisher all go top 10… What do you think?

phillyfan
phillyfan
January 24, 2013 5:41 pm

Forget about Revis and his injuries. The Eagles got burned with a healthy Nnamdi. Get the secondary fixed with some draft picks and a FA safety like Jairius Byrd.

Your right Paulman this team needs picks and you never give away a first and second for damaged goods.

EaglesSuck
EaglesSuck
January 24, 2013 7:02 pm

Adrian Peterson came off the same injury and he’s had a MVP season. Revis is still young and by far the best corner the league has had in years. The Secondary is arguably the most important thing this team needs to fix. Consider this. We dont know how good the 4th overall pick will be but I know how good Revis is. Revis is not Nnmandi. Revis is unlike anything this city has ever seen. He would immediately be the best tackler on the team. He would shutdown any WR across from him (other than Steve Johnson). In a not so impressive draft I cant see why you dont trade the 4th pick for him.

EaglesSuck
EaglesSuck
January 24, 2013 7:08 pm

Paulman I dont think you are seeing the big picture here. The Eagles are sitting at #4 in a draft where there are not any eye catching Quarterbacks. For a team to trade up it would mean they want someone they think would be there at #4. Usually a quarterback. This year you dont have those kind of players that a team would want to trade up for. Eagles will not turn the #4 pick into 2 1st round picks this year. Perhaps a 1st next year but why do that when you can trade that pick for the best player at his position (revis)

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2013 10:14 pm
Reply to  EaglesSuck

The Rams have #16 and #22 picks and would a shot at OT Joeckel, Or Fisher, there are no Franchise QB’s in this Draft so I agree with you that not a lot of Teams will want to move up but believe the Rams could be one of those Teams to get an elte 10 year Starter at OT where many Teams need

daggolden
daggolden
January 25, 2013 6:49 am
Reply to  paulman

There are a few OT that grade just a bit lower than Joeckel so why in the world would you trade both your picks for him. Just think about it would you want to do that if you were the Eagles?

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2013 6:56 am
Reply to  daggolden

What happens if Joeckel goes 1st (very possible)
Then you have Eagles, Lions,Cardinals,Jets,Panthers all Selecting before
The Rams at #16 who all need OT’s as well..
So then the Rams if they want to Top 3 OT’s may have to move up
As a Scenario
Top 3 OT (Joeckel, Fisher & Lane Johnson)
Will like go in the Top #15 Sekections as Day 1
Starters at OT which is a difficult position to Fill as we know too well in Philly…

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2013 1:15 pm
Reply to  paulman

why don’t we want a top 3 tackle? a foundation… i know we need a lot of players but man a tackle for 10-12 years… think tra and john…. when you have players like that it makes everything so much easier!

Butch007
Butch007
January 24, 2013 9:48 pm

Steve Spagnuolo should get snapped up by the Eagles as he just got fired by the Saints. Absolutely ludicrous dismissal considering how little talent New Orleans had left on the defensive side of the football and even then he had them playing pretty well by the end of the season.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 25, 2013 8:34 am
Reply to  Butch007

Since his 1, yes 1, good season as DC of the Giants, Spagnuolo has failed miserably with both the Rams and Saints. While I understand there were other issues with the Saints this year, his D was historically bad (except when they played the Birds). You can have him.

paulman
paulman
January 24, 2013 10:09 pm

Saints signed some big name free-agents in LB’s Curtis Lofton,
And the LB from Seahawks whose name escapes me, they have former #1
Picks in DL Cam Heyward, Sedrick Ellis and Jenkins in the Secondary and Spags was a failure for 3/4 of the Season

Frank22
Frank22
January 24, 2013 10:40 pm

I pass on spags

mhenski
mhenski
January 24, 2013 10:41 pm

Profootballtalk suggests Ravens practice squad QB Dennis Dixon could end up in Philadelphia next season with his college head coach Chip Kelly.
PFT is simply connecting the dots here, but it’s a logical option. Dixon has been running the scout team in Ravens practice as the team prepares for Colin Kaepernick in the Super Bowl. Dixon played for Kelly at Oregon and was a Heisman candidate in his 2007 senior season before a torn ACL ended that run. Dixon passed for 2,136 yards and 20 touchdowns while adding 583 yards and nine more scores on the ground that year. He hasn’t appeared in an NFL game since 2010 with the Steelers.
Related: Eagles
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports

haaaaa

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 25, 2013 8:34 am
Reply to  mhenski

That’d be great.

Rocko
Rocko
January 25, 2013 1:29 am

I don’t even read these so called draft prospect articles on here anymore because it becomes a waste of time speculating. All I care about is what coach Kelly believes is the right guy, not what is being said on here and every other site. After years and years of this crap, I’m just waiting on draft day. Kelly might trade a first rounder for three 2nd round picks and turn them into first round talent. Fellas, just be glad Reid is gone and be happy we got a new general in charge who wants to win now. Also, I’m most delighted that Marty is gone as well, the thought of him and Reid’s pass happy arse’s destroyed my love for our team week in and weak out. Enough speculation, I ain’t assuming anything until I see the direction General Kelly takes us. If the guy doesn’t fit into Kelly’s style of team play then his pick round doesn’t mean a thing, and we saw that with Allen and Jarrett.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 25, 2013 9:06 am
Reply to  Rocko

I agree Rocko, we all see these guys play and have our own opinion which counts for absolutely nothing. Roseman and Kelly are the only ones that know what they want.

Rocko
Rocko
January 25, 2013 1:30 am

Cont: Oh and the overgrown fireman as well…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 25, 2013 8:44 am

I actually think the Eagles are in a good spot at 4. They’re going to get one of Joeckel(OT), Lotulelei (DT) or Milner (CB).

These are all positions of need. And in 2 cases extreme need (OT and DB)

People only trade up for QBs and OTs. There are no QBs worth trading up for and Joeckel will either be gone or available at 4 for the Birds.

Again, the Eagles in a bit of a bind as far as the QB position goes if they want one….missed the boat last year, and are a year early for what is expected to be a QB rich draft next year. Taking a QB this year, even in 2nd round would be a reach at best. Typical.

I can’t see how they don’t run at QB with what they have….if he’s good then $$ and we’re on our way….if he’s not then there is another 4-12 sseason and we’re in line for one of the several solid well hyped prospects coming out next year including Manziel, Bridgewater…..much better option than taking a project again and hoping he’s good in 2 years.

Frank22
Frank22
January 25, 2013 8:55 am

Eagles should stay far, far, far, far away from Johnny Manziel.

Frank22
Frank22
January 25, 2013 8:58 am

Taj Boyd and Teddy Bridgewater are two big bodied, athletic qbs in next years draft that would intrigue me. Thats why I think it’s pointless to go after a qb in this draft with so many other needs.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 25, 2013 9:08 am
Reply to  Frank22

So true Frank thats why like henski posted earlier we may be stuck with a year of Foles/Vick/Dixon until Kelly gets the guy under center he wants and if it’s Boyd or Bridgewater the Eagles will be fine for years to come.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 25, 2013 1:37 pm
Reply to  Frank22

Frank, I will say it again you are a smart man…..thats how a real GM forcasts fixing problems. Totally agree!

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 25, 2013 9:25 am

I agree with both of you. There is no QB in this draft that that I think that the Birds should take over trying to fill many other holes. This yea will be a transition year, and I would attempt to sure up some other things before I throw a young QB into the mix. Stick with what they have at QB and look to fill that position next year. A lot of agreement here which is pretty rare.

jbird
jbird
January 25, 2013 9:39 am

What would you guys think of #4 and #35 to the Jets for Reevis and #9? Milliner is a reach at #4 but I’ll take him at #9. Instant rebuild of the secondary. Ready to rock in 2014. Just give Reevis five years at Nnamdi money with it spread out and not front loaded until we see how the ACL shakes out. That’s fair. I’m not shelling out a ten million signing bonus for a guy that is 28 and hurt. I think he and his agent would have to accept that and take the big raise. If he is worth $ 60 million he will get it in the next five years. If he is busted goods, he is SOL.

Biglion821
Biglion821
January 25, 2013 9:45 am
Reply to  jbird

I’d do it jbird it would be well worth the gamble.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 25, 2013 10:11 am

More Eagles’ senior bowl meetings:

Oregon State wide receiver Markus Wheaton,
Colorado tight end Nick Kasa,
Illinois defensive end Michael Buchanan,
Texas wide receiver Marquise Goodwin Connecticut cornerback Dwayne Gratz
Clemson center Dalton Freeman

daggolden
daggolden
January 25, 2013 10:21 am

Revis wants100 million with 60 million guarenteed coming off a injury. This team isnt close to competing. Build through the draft.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 25, 2013 10:28 am

I agree with Dag here. Revis is going to want/demand a big payday which I think will be more that what you guys think.

daggolden
daggolden
January 25, 2013 10:33 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Thats the reports coming out of Revis camp. He wants Mario Williams money. The Jets then want draft picks for Revis. High draft picks. You will have to give up definetly a #1 plus multiple other high draft picks for the best defensive player in the NFL. Eagles are in NO position to do that.

jbird
jbird
January 25, 2013 10:31 am

daggolden….NO ONE will give him that. He is dilusional. Maybe if he balls out next year and comes back like AP, he gets 14 or 15 for four years. But not right now. I think he has to accept a contract with the money spread out right now. Thats good business. If you are worth $60 million, you will get it. If you can’t play as well anymore, you won’t and don’t deserve it. I am not guaranteeing you a King’s ransom for maybe. If you’re healthy and help my team for five years, you will get what you are worth.

daggolden
daggolden
January 25, 2013 10:56 am
Reply to  jbird

Spoken like a GM who was screwed. lol. Ala Nnamdi has scorned us Eagles fan.Im right with you bro. Honestly I dont care it doesnt effect the Eagles but after listening to H Edwards, B Dawkins, a Jets representative and Revis rep on Mike and Mike this morning not once did the knee come up. its not even a concern. Hes doing great. All that was said by all was most DOMINATING defensive player in NFL bar none and he will be highest paid defensive player in NFL. He doesnt have to prove shit. lol Thats the reality.

jbird
jbird
January 25, 2013 10:33 am

bugs…he can’t get it with the injury and his age. He can demand all he wants. And teams will tell him to fuck off. He has to prove it next year or take less guarantee.

daggolden
daggolden
January 25, 2013 10:51 am
Reply to  jbird

First off he is 27. ancient. Second I really doubt teams will tell the best defensive player in the league to “fuck off”. Trust me i Mario Williams and his 6 sacks a year can get 100 million the most dominating corner/ shutdown/take half the field away corner in the NFL can get the same. IMO.

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2013 11:05 am

SHut hald the field down like CB Asmo was supposed to do..
You have to believe that Revis will have lost a 1/2 Step and may not be as
quick with his lateral movment either.. At least for most of 2013..
I stay clear away from him and do not risk trading High Draft PIcks, Taking on anothe rbig Salary for questions about his health and overall recovery from major ACL Surgery.. Eagles need healthy bodies & players and lots of them.. They should look to trade their own Veterans and stock up on Defensive Players and OL this Draft which is Deep in these areas as they rebuild under 1st Year Chip Kelly..

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
January 25, 2013 11:28 am

Contributing reason as to why the Eagles would get rid of Nnamdi is his contract and performance to fulfill the contract…Same situation with #7….I don’t see the Eagles replacing Nnamdi with Revis at the money, Revis is going to want, coming off a serious injury. I say pass on Revis…Snatch a strong corner like a Xavier Rhodes in the 2nd or 3rd round, who also has the ability to move to safety, good size at 6’2 215.

jbird
jbird
January 25, 2013 11:29 am

paul…I was just thinking if the Jets would take 4 and 35 for Reevis and 9. We get a corner that is still good and has respect from QBs and then we get Milliner at 9 where is more where he belongs. I don’t want to reach for him at 4. Then we maybe get a FA safety and the secondary is fixed. If Ed Reed wouldn’t try to break the bank would you give him three years for the leadership and toguhness he brings? I know it is age 36-38 and he has been hurt. Like I said, I’m not giving him $25 million for three years to retire on. He can find some other sucker for that. But if he would take 14 or 15?

jbird
jbird
January 25, 2013 11:43 am

paul….I am very guarded about BPA at 4 because it is probably a DE. And as a draftnick would you not agree that is by far the hardest position in football to project with a very high bust rate? You almost have to go need over BPA if BPA is a DE. There are so many tweeners these days. Also, another question? Do you agree this team is throwing away some decent talent if they go 3-4? I think Graham and Kendricks have real potential that will be lost in a 3-4.

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2013 11:56 am
Reply to  jbird

Right now at the 4th SPot going by BPA, it will at the DL/LB postions
Star Lotulei,Demontre Morre, Jarvis Jones,Barkevious Mingo will all be close at the Spot..
DE Spot is difficult to project.. remember the Eagles are going on their 5th DL Coach since JJ DAys and their 4th D/C when Kelly annouces his new HIre, so a lack of Stability on the entire Defensive Staff has no doubt hurt the prgress or lack of progress I believe by some of these Eagle Defenders.. Look at the Secondary alone that went for Sean MCDermott, to DIck Jauron, to Johnny Lynne to Todd Bowles, to Mike Zordich in the last 5-6 Seasons.. It’s not wonder that Nate Allen, J Jarett, Curtis Marsh,Brandon Boykin have struggled.. Look at the Veterans Secondary that have stuggled with these constant changes (Asmo/DRC/J Hanson)
I am not making any excuses, the Eagle need to rebuild this Secondary entriely, but a stable Defensive Coaching Staff that speaks the same language and has this Unit play as 1 concerted focus group that know and understand the scheme that they are in will do wonders for the Players to at least have a chance to be succesful, Hopefully Ed Donatell is that Guy calling the Shots from a Defensive Perspective..

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2013 11:44 am

I am sure the Jets would take #4 and #35 for Revis which equates to practically 2 1st Round Picks.. I just don’t believe the Eagles are 1 or 2 Players away fro, legitimately contending so I would pass on this Deal or any Deal to bring in Veteran Players for Draft Picks.. If I am Chip Kelly, I am looking to trade my own Veteran Players who I don’t see as a fit for my system and trade them to other teams to acquire more Draft Picks..
Revis only makes sense going to a team that’s built to win now.. and I don’t believe the Eagles are in that group for they have to make the Playoffs first
Now Legitimate Playoff Teams like the Falcons, Saints, Bengals,Texans, Broncos, going all in for a CB Revis for High Draft PIcks, I can see as a possibility, but not the Eagles, Jaguars,Chiefs,Raiders,Caridnals,etc,etc that need so many other pieces just to get to the PLayoffs that it just doesn’t make sound financial shape to do so in the short-term or the loss of High Drafr Picks for the long-term.. .. I just don’t do it..

jbird
jbird
January 25, 2013 11:50 am

Real……I agree. But I don’t think Reevis is getting what he wants. Guys like Snyder and Jones that would do it are strapped right now and Al Davis is dead so that clears out a lot of the suckers that inflate the market. If you could get him for Nnamdi’s five year sixty million, would you do it?

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
January 25, 2013 12:24 pm
Reply to  jbird

JBird, good point, at Nnamdi’s price tag maybe not so bad, but 12 million a year for a player coming off a serious injury, is a bit risky for me…To me it all depends on the front office plan….If the plan is a 2-3 year plan, I think adding a contract like that will restrict them from some possible moves, that could help the team become deeper.

If the Eagles can free themselves of Nnamdi’s big contract I would go after a young CB in the draft and bring in a free agent safety if possible, player like a Dashon Goldon to play safety (I know wishful thinking, 49ers probably won’t let him go) if that doesn’t work out look at ATL’s William Moore.

jbird
jbird
January 25, 2013 11:56 am

paul… don’t forget my deal entails a swap of firsts. Don’t know if you caught that. They have to give us Reevis and the ninth pick. So they get to move up five spots to the HOF position in the draft and get a high second. I think if you stay 4-3, bring in two good corners in Milliner and Reevis with Cox, Graham, Ryans, Kendricks and a hopefully better Trent Cole and a healthy O line, 10-6 is a real possibility if Chip Kelly is as great on offense as we all hope. We could certainly be the Vikes/Colts of 2013. Happens all the time.

paulman
paulman
January 25, 2013 1:46 pm
Reply to  jbird

I did miss that #9 Pick in return.. I still wouldn’t do it though..

jbird
jbird
January 25, 2013 11:58 am

Paul… Falcons are strapped and Saints and Bengals are way too cheap. So clear those names.

jott1972
jott1972
January 25, 2013 12:44 pm

Need to trade out of #4… too many needs…. #4 = 1800 pts….Rams have #16 and #22 = 1780 pts…. Rams need a stud OT, done deal!

Eagles free agency:

Sign CB Marcus Trufant, Seattle… veteran who is a safe signing..1-2 yr deal.

Build through the draft (rounds 1-3):

#16 – S Kenny Vaccaro, Texas…..plays both saefty positions…. can hit and cover…
#22 – CB Desmond Trufant, Washington…..moving up the draft boards…..stud lockdown corner….held USC Marquise Lee to 2 catches for 32 yards…..pair him with his brother…

2nd round – DT John Jenkins, Georgia 6-5 350….. need a plug in the middle for the 3-4 scheme….Jenkins is a beast in the Wilfork mold….anchor of the defense for the next 10 years

3rd round – QB EJ Manuel, FSU…. mobile, athletic, big-arm, needs time, but can be a potential star with the right coaching…

Frank22
Frank22
January 25, 2013 1:19 pm
Reply to  jott1972

you almost had me until your 3rd round pick.

jott1972
jott1972
January 25, 2013 12:45 pm

forgot to mention DRC is not coming back and CUT Gumby Asomugha – $5m cap hit but saves you from paying him $15m

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 25, 2013 12:45 pm

Remembering that the Eagles are OVER next year’s cap and will be dumping salary this off-season, not acquiring it.

The “kaboom” sound you are going to hear this offseason is the sound this new management/coaching structure is going to do to the veteran player salaries.

They’re not going to be adding any 60-100 million dollar players either. Not for a couple of years. No trading for Revis. No re-signing DRC (thank goodness).

All new. All young. All cheap.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
January 25, 2013 1:00 pm

I disagree Vinnie….The Eagles already have one of the youngest teams on the defensive side of the ball…They need veteran leadership to provide a nice balance…If Nnamdi/DRC are both gone as some suggest, the Eagles will be looking to bring in a veteran DB…This will take some time, Eagles won’t be cleaning house of all the players in one year time…It will take 2-3 years until we see a dramatic change in the personnel. To say the Eagles won’t be looking to bring in good players from free agency is, dumb…no disrespect…if there is a possibility to improve the team, they will try and improve the team.

There are more players you guys want to be released than the Eagles have draft picks….haha…Eagles need to have a full roster somehow….

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 25, 2013 1:11 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

i agree in part… i just wouldn’t call revis veteran leadership… he is an outstanding player but lets not forget that he never stops talking about getting paid more and more… we have had enough of that. they will look to ryans and graham i would imagine for leadership on the D…. maybe a vet but certainly not revis………he isn’t just a ‘veteran DB’ … he is awhole lot more than that! too many headaches, cost too much and no way, no how….STAY AWAY FROM REVIS~!!!!!!!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
January 25, 2013 2:05 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I agree, I don’t think Revis is a good option…as stated above in earlier posts…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 25, 2013 1:37 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

They might be looking to bring in free agents…but they’re going to be young, and cheap.

Xevious
Xevious
January 25, 2013 4:10 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

I just dont see them holding onto to certain players. I think they will sign a few Safties from Free Agency and draft a heck of a lot of Defensive Players. Ryans doesnt fit the 3-4 nor does Jenkins…So much speculation and 2nd guessing going on. I guess well all find out together because honestly this has been the hardest off season to predict that I can remember.

jbird
jbird
January 25, 2013 1:12 pm

vinnie…along those lines. At seven mil, Herremans might be the richest RT in the league. He sucked last year before he got hurt and I think he was one of the people guys like Avant were referring to when they said they are distracted by their creature comforts and resting on laurels. Now if he slides back to OG, don’t you think he will be meeting with Howie sometime this spring about his pay cut or do they let him slide and consider it back pay from the years he was under paid?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
January 25, 2013 1:44 pm
Reply to  jbird

Well if he heads back to guard…which I think is a strong possibility, I could see where they ask him to re-do that deal

Its difficult to guage who those “comfortable” players were I think there were on both sides of the ball….and over the last 6/7 games I was really beginning to question the injuries out there (Watkins, Heremans, Desean, Vick….lot of guys pulling up lame when things weren’t going well….)

I still remember the one day I attended at TC when DRC was completely goofing off doing the “robot” out to his position etc.,…Castillo got in his face…trying to get him to focus…barked at him with some colourful language…adn 30 secs later the “robot” was back. I was there with my wife and kids and turned to my wife and said, “I thihnk this is going to be a long season”

So I am not entirely sure who will be purged…but I would guess Vick, DRC, Nnamdi if we draft a corner #1, Jenkins,…perhaps cole and Herremans (at least a pay cut)…..and perhaps even some suprises with Desean….and even Demarco Ryans…..

I do not agree with Realtalk that we’ll be bringing in any FAs of note…not this year. Kelly will want to establish his culture…..and that’s a lot easier done on young kids.