• November 28, 2022

Eagles Hire Billy Davis As New Defensive Coordinator

BillyDavis1According to CSN’s Geoff Mosher, Chip Kelly has decided to hire veteran defensive coach Billy Davis as his defensive coordinator.  Davis has coached for quite a few teams in the league and was recently a linebackers coach for the Cleveland Browns.  The hiring of Davis just about confirms the Eagles will be switching to a 3-4 defense.

I have learned from a NFL source that a number of coaches have turned down the opportunity.  The Birds could have hired Davis a week or two ago if they were so impressed with him.  Instead they waited until the Super Bowl was concluded and then they hired Davis.  Or to put it more accurately, they settled for Davis.

This definitely wasn’t a decision which is going to impress the Eagles fan base because Davis doesn’t have an impressive resume.  Now the Eagles have both offensive and defensive coordinators who were coaching the Cleveland Browns a year ago, Pat Shurmur and Billy Davis.

Davis has coached for the Browns twice, the Panthers, the Packers, the Falcons, the Giants, the 49ers, and the Cardinals. He’s obviously in the coaching fraternity, but I don’t see anything on his resume that shows he’s worthy of getting this job.

The long-time NFL coach has been a defensive coordinator for two organizations, the 49ers in 20005-2006 and the Cardinals in 2009-2010 and each time he did it without distinction.   He has never coached a defense which has finished in the top ten in the league in yards given up or number of points surrendered.

 

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gmcliff
gmcliff
February 7, 2013 12:21 pm

Eric Mangini, would have made a better choice. i really question what the Eagles are doing, but will give it a chance. If they draft with the same quality, they use in selecting coaches we will be set back for 4-5 years….Nice going Howie….

Xevious
Xevious
February 7, 2013 12:27 pm

After being impressed the first few days of Kelly’s regime, I am starting to see everything I feared if we hired him. This could really turn into a disaster really fast. Even though its only been a few weeks, the impression has turned glum. Of course lets just see where all this is going, but I am not impressed one bit by this or any of the other decisions made so far.

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 7, 2013 1:13 pm
Reply to  Xevious

I agree Xevious too many dubious decisions I guess the Baltimore and SF guys were blocked from taking the job here. All I know from the coaching staff hires to the non decision on the Qb’s something just isn’t right here. Who the heck knows what happens with the draft. Geez this is crazy.

dtime
dtime
February 7, 2013 12:37 pm

On the surface this almost looks as bad as Juan Castillo.

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 12:38 pm

Paul…..Are you serious?? I hated hiring Kelly and he hasn’t made one damn decent decision yet. Davis is a failure. This is like rehiring Sean McDermott. His defense in SF and Ariz were awful. Here are his point rankings: 30, 32, 14, 30. THREE TIMES finished bottom three in foru seasons. Great Fucking Hire!!!! Yardage ranks: 32, 26, 20, 29. Bottom half of the league all four years and bottom five twice! Chip Kelly and Howie clearly have no fucking idea what they are doing! Jeffrey Lurie is an idiot who thinks he is soooo clever. We will never win a SB with him as owner because he will never hire a coach with fire and balls! He wants a thinker. How about hiring a DOER!!! The Eagles are fuckred for the next four years until Lurie fires Kelly and hires another bad coach that has no history of toughness. I am so fucking depressed it makes no sense.

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 12:40 pm

cigar…..the worst thing I have ever lived through is Marion Campbell. I did not experience the hell of pre-Vermeil Eagles. I have a feeling this will be similar. This guy is supposed to be a genius?? He is Spurrier just like I thought he would be. Great job Jeff and Howie you just set this organization back even further!!

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 12:42 pm

cigar….I appreciate that you are a diehard fan. I am too which is why I am so pissed off right now. Of all the people he could have hired??? I am just not one of those diehards that loves unconditionally. This moron has not done one damn thing right except appeal to the mustard stained 700 level idiots by going to Wing Bowl. That’s not going to help win football games. He is a college coach and that was so obvious to everyone but Asshole Lurie.

jott1972
jott1972
February 7, 2013 12:46 pm

hope you are happy with this selection because its a terrible move…

the Cardinals were ranked 20th in defense with him running the ship and the 49ers defense was ranked 26th in defense when he ran their defense..

good luck watching this train wreck

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 12:47 pm

I wanted Monachino so bad. I wanted a tough guy and instead we got another bozo nice guy. This day is soooo depressing. We are not going to go anywhere. Chip Kelly has done nothing but confirm he doesn’t know what he is doing. And on top of that he hates Foles and seems to be growing fond of Vick. We are going to be epically bad like I have never seen. I can’t wait until he uses the fourth pick on EJ Manuel. This whole thing has been one bad decision after another. This is a disaster already!!

Xevious
Xevious
February 7, 2013 12:50 pm

Sooooo Spurrier to the stupid visor to bringing back his college QBs to reinvent the pro game…..Such a joke to hire this guy. Now he has 23 million to spen plus Nhamdi and Vick money when they are gone…this is looking bad. Im hoping Im wrong but so far so bad.

paulman
paulman
February 7, 2013 12:50 pm

Where have you gone Andy Reid … Please Hire him back Lurie…
I take every bad thing I have said about him back….

Frank22
Frank22
February 7, 2013 1:50 pm
Reply to  paulman

haha

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 12:53 pm

Hopefully this twit will go running back to college after he fails catastrophically and realizes how reviled he is after two years when he goes 5-27. The next campaign is not to get rid of the coach. We need to put up signs telling Lurie to sell the team. After Kelly bolts he will just hire another jerk that he can manipulate and control instead of hiring an actual man.

paulman
paulman
February 7, 2013 12:55 pm

Word is Ted Monachino at Baltimore is happy where he is and in line for the Ravens DC Position after Current DC Donald Peas retires (which may be soon)
and with Ray Lewis retiring, Monachino now has plans to revamp that Raven LB and looks forward to the CHallenge..
I was hoping Kelly would Hire Grantham from Georgia or the DC from Alabama or even the DC from TCU , but it appears that Chip Kelly is not held as in high-esteem by fellow Coaches as what Lurie/Roseman think of him..
Between Kelly’s lack of NFL Experience and DC Billy Davis low Profile,
does anyone really expect big name Free-Agents to be attracted to coming to play for the Philadelphia Eagles…

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 12:56 pm

Why didn’t we hire Gus Bradley?? Lurie probably didn’t like the tape he saw of him reaming his players and thought he was just too neanderthal and not a great cerebral philosopher like himself.

yojoe
yojoe
February 7, 2013 1:01 pm

I smell cheap contract, yes man and Howie Roseman all over this hire…

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 1:01 pm

Paul….You should do a Chip Kelly Mock Draft. Figure out all the bad decisions he would make round by round. It would be hillarious. I need somethuing to cheer me up. I never liked Lurie and I like him less than ever today. Bad GM hiring. Bad coach hiring. Bad assistant hiring. The Eagles will soon be right there with the Browns, Cards and Raiders as laughingstocks of the NFL.

E-money
E-money
February 7, 2013 1:12 pm

Poaching coaches from the Browns? Awful, just awful.
Maybe Chip is hoping to get the top QB in next year’s draft by finishing worse than 4-12.

Pipolo87
Pipolo87
February 7, 2013 1:15 pm

Lets just have a wait and see approach. Jim Johnson RIP didnt have a great resume before being hired by the Eagles and Paulman i dont know if it is just sarcasm but in the other post you thought it was a good hire the post on the Eagles Cap numbers so which is it. Sorry i am new here an though i like Paulmans post i dont know which way to take it.

paulman
paulman
February 7, 2013 1:34 pm
Reply to  Pipolo87

Welcome aboard Pipolo87
I am usually all over the board about everything as you will soon find out … ha ha… but I think it’s an just an “OK” Hire
Davis has worked for or under some very succesful DC’s/Coaches like Cowher,Capers,Phillips,Nolan,etc,etc.. Now can he translate that experience,knowledge,planning and organizational skills nad communicator enough to translate into putting a good Staff and Game Plans together.. I am not so sure and we will all have to wait and see, but this guy is not a stiff, but probably lacks the Fire that most of us were hoping for …
Personally, I wanted the College DC Coaches from either Georgia,Alabama or TCU for the DC since it was apparent, that not many experienced Current Succesful NFL Coaches were lining up to work for the Eagles or with Kelly at this point..

jakedog
jakedog
February 7, 2013 1:16 pm

Eagles are already worse jbird, think about it, you have this interloper from new England come here with his dorky friends, turn football into pansyville, just look a the hirings, uniforms, players, that passive aggresive bitch mcnabb, then we have the social experiment of turning dog killer into good human being, regardless go how good or bad a qb he is, doesn’t matter, there is alternate agenda with everything this fruit Lurie does, the hiring of chip Kelly just another example of this

And Lurie will never surround himself or his eagles, not my eagles, his, with any strong man like Gus Bradley, he looks for the pussies, Reid, Kelly, look at his gm,

This hiring of a loser for dc is a huge indicator of where the eagles are headed

However, the most significant indicator is the fact that mike Vick is not only still on the roster, but possibly being courted again to start at quarterback, that’s what Lurie wants,nereid wanted no part of it, Reid wanted foles, kolb before that

But this is and always has been lurie’s eagles, not mine, never with this guy

paulman
paulman
February 7, 2013 1:16 pm

Here it is Jbird
Chip Kelly’s Dreaam 2013 Draft for the Eagles

1st Rd (#4th) – LB Mantti’ Te’o (Notre Dame 6-2 245lbs)
2nd Rd (#36th) – WR Tavon Ausitin (West Virgina 5-7 165lbs)
3th Rd (#68th) – RB Monte Ball (Wisconsin 5-11 205lbs)
4th Rd (#100th) – CB BW Webb (William & Mary 5-10 183lbs)
5th Rd (#132nd) – Guard JC Tretter (Cornell 6-4 305lbs)
6th Rd (#168th) – FB Karl Jusczyck (Harvard 6-1 248lbs)
7th Rd (#200th) – OLB Herman Lathers (Tennesee 6-0 224lbs)

Read ’em and weep…

DCar
DCar
February 7, 2013 1:22 pm
Reply to  paulman

Super Bowl BAAAAABY!!! SIGN ME UP!!!! F……..U……. LURIE!!!!

Frank22
Frank22
February 7, 2013 1:54 pm
Reply to  paulman

I have to say, the guy I want the birds to get is your 6th round pick.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
February 7, 2013 1:17 pm

Take a look at Vic Fangio’s record as a DC before he hooked on with the 49ers. This guy might surprise some people. He has worked with some great coaches.

I laugh when I read shit like this –> I have learned from a NFL source that a number of coaches have turned down the opportunity. What a fucking joke, like who? guys that are in line to become DC on their current team?

DCar
DCar
February 7, 2013 1:25 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

So, you like this coaching staff, full of his beer buddies, rag tag retreads & failures?!? ALL RIGHTY THEN!!!!

concrete_marley
concrete_marley
February 7, 2013 3:19 pm
Reply to  DCar

Every single coaching staff in the league is comprised of that same cast of characters you just mentioned. Lets wait and see. If he sucks the we rip him. Ripping him now just makes u look like a wuss. No offense.

DCar
DCar
February 8, 2013 2:41 am

Far from a wuss, just pissed & very underwhelmed!

DCar
DCar
February 7, 2013 1:19 pm

TOP 3 PICK NEXT YEAR! I have zero confidence now! Absolutely, mind boggling! GOD AWFUL STAFF!!!!

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
February 7, 2013 1:21 pm

We should hire some coaches with GREAT past records like – Jim Washburn and Bobby April and Howard Mudd.

Pipolo87
Pipolo87
February 7, 2013 1:28 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

LOL exactly because they work so well because success always follow (sarcastic voice) They all failed so has Spags. but hey all these fans just need to wait and see show some type of optimism. 34-31 was the Score in the Superbowl and we wanted those Lb/DB coaches. Spags worked in NY didnt work in St. louis and NO. You win some you lose some.

jakedog
jakedog
February 7, 2013 1:27 pm

I am starting a defected eagles fan base to pick another team to root for, we still wear eagles stuff, but pick a team in our city’s likeness, maybe the steelers, kind of like Jews for Jesus back in the day, what do you think paulman?

greenfan
greenfan
February 7, 2013 4:55 pm
Reply to  jakedog

Go talk to your buddy FraudSongs, he already started the club and can’t seem to leave us Bird fans alone. I want no parts of your plan. I am an Eagles fan till the end.

andrew p
andrew p
February 7, 2013 1:27 pm

The article says a lot of people turned down the job n it’s obvious why, it’s the same reason why people said no to Reid, with Reid he went an hired Washburn an told people they had to coach around Wash, with Chip he went an hired a whole staff and went and told people they had to work with them. What good coach would of came here and not want to build his own staff? This is scary.

jphalines
jphalines
February 7, 2013 1:30 pm

Joe Banner must have created a false rumor that he was going to extend Davis witht the Browns. Lurie had to outdo Banner so he hired Davis. Banner’s only regret is he didn’t have Ashton Cutcher film his complete punking of Lurie.

DCar
DCar
February 7, 2013 1:32 pm

Why would any good coach, take the job, with his staff already hired, with no input from him?!? It’s Castillo 2.0! It’s a f^#@ing disgrace!

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 1:34 pm

Jake….I was just thinking the same things when I went outside to compose myself with a smoke. This guy has taken our colors, our toughness (We never won anything but damn it we would fight you!!), our passion. Everything. He has destroyed Philadelphia Eagles football and turned it into something unrecognizable. Where have you gone Buddy Ryan?? This team is a bunch of misfits and pussies. Pussies like Trent Cole and Nnamdi Asomougha and Casey Mathews. And misfits like Vick, DRC, Desean Jackson. And all we do is keep on giving him our money. This has to stop. I am not going to any games this year. I have had it.

mryan
mryan
February 7, 2013 1:37 pm

G, by all accounts its not going to be a 3-4 but a hybrid 4-3 Under D. Similar personnel groupings, but 4-3 Under will allow for smaller WDE or “Elephants” (I believe Davis uses the term “Predator”) to stand up and move around in a 2 Pt stance.
This would be the same D Gus Bradley would have brought with him, and the same D currently employed in Seattle.
Less of a focus now on a pure pass rusher this year, but we will still be looking for a NT (which will shade on C strong side shoulder). The NT does not need to be Wilfork sized, but will need to be able to take on double teams. We will need to upgrade the SAM spot (which we would have had to do either way) as he will be covering TEs and RBs out of the backfield, and will occasionally be rushing the passer from the 9-tech.
Kendricks will move back to his strength at WLB and will be the playmaker as he will be the most protected on the weak side (will have weakside A-gap responsibilities). Ryans is going to have strong side A gap responsibilities, but will be the least covered and will have to go up against OGs multiple times a game.
Cox will be able to continue his role as a 3-tech, where he is best and will have weak side B gap responsibility

I will go into more specifics in a later post, but the 4-3 Under Hybrid system we are likely switching to should make for an easier transition and fits current personnel better than a complete 3-4 switch (regardless of what you think of current personnel).

Stevo
Stevo
February 7, 2013 2:57 pm
Reply to  mryan

you will? or…. will you just cut and paste more stuff from the interview that was posted on twitter from 2009?

greenfan
greenfan
February 7, 2013 4:56 pm
Reply to  Stevo

LOL….you tell him Rev!

mryan
mryan
February 7, 2013 5:18 pm
Reply to  Stevo

this article?
http://kan.scout.com/2/866494.html

Aside from “Predator”, where does it talk about gap responsibility, NT size, or allowance for a smaller framed player as the Elephant than in a traditional 3-4 WOLB? You know stuff that is relevant to our current personnel?

* MIKE has SS B gap responsibility not A gap as stated above.

DCar
DCar
February 7, 2013 1:38 pm

\:D/

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 7, 2013 1:38 pm

What in the heck is going on here? Why would you hire the coaches before the coordinator? Who is making these decisions? Why is Vick on the roster? How come Kelly hasn’t met with Foles? At least pitchers and catchers report in 5 days. I think I’ll catch up with Bynum and go on vacation. LOL

andrew p
andrew p
February 7, 2013 1:46 pm

We also have to take in consideration that maybe Pat Shurmur highly recommended him, forget stats, tags Browns did play good D last year, I don’t recall any games where they got blown out.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
February 7, 2013 1:46 pm

The World Is Ending!

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 7, 2013 1:52 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

LOL

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 1:48 pm

mryan…..good post. The current personnel sucks for any defense. Chip Kelly had weak defenses in Oregon and if you look at the stellar players that SF/Ariz drafted while Davis was D coordinator, he cannot evaluate defensive talent either. I don’t see the defensive personnel getting any better. Let’s see if they pass on Lotulelei and draft Milliner at four if both are available. I think Milliner is Sheldon Brown. If you could draft Sheldon Brown (who has made zero PBs) at number four overall would you make that pick?

mryan
mryan
February 7, 2013 2:08 pm
Reply to  jbird

They drafted Daryl Washington while he was in AZ and Nolan was the HC in SF so I would think a D-minded head coach had more sway on the draft board than Davis.
Milliner is not even in the same ballpark as Patrick Peterson (who was picked 5th). I’m of the opinion that if Joeckel and Star are gone I try to trade back into the mid 20’s for a 1rst next year (2014 Top heavy draft 4-6 Elite players). 2013 1rst round has excellent value in the bottom half at S, OG, WR and possibly DE and DTs that slip.

phillylifer033
phillylifer033
February 7, 2013 1:49 pm

What a surprise,people are complaining about a coaching hire and they have no idea how it will turn out! Vic Fangio coached the freaking Texans ands Colts to some of the worse defenses.Comparing Chip Kelly to Spurrier is a joke because Spurrier didnt put in the work as a coach,he would leave early to go golfing!!

Xevious
Xevious
February 7, 2013 1:51 pm
Reply to  phillylifer033

ill grant ya that much but there are way too many other similarities….Im frustrated and worried bottom line. Plus I took a few cheap shots…Happens.

Pipolo87
Pipolo87
February 7, 2013 2:06 pm
Reply to  phillylifer033

Praise the Lord someone has Sense i agree with your post look at Spags he did well with the Midgets an tanked with Rams and Saints. Wade Phillips Sucked as a HC and went to Houston Top 10 Defense back to back

Xevious
Xevious
February 7, 2013 1:49 pm

Lurie has to go no if’s ands or butts. Mr dead fish hand shake high falootin words is a full of shit owner. Our stadium doesnt rock like the vet, our team has no heart on the field, the coaching staff is a bunch of who what wheres the ball coaches and worst of all My Jaworski and Reggie Jersey’s look so much better than this blue tinged “midnight green” garbage…Get this fraud of an owner away from our team and take howie with him. Been thinking maybe Big Joe in Cleveland was showing Mrs Laurie a good time….While Howie showed Jeffrey one. I just put 2+2 together yall.

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 1:53 pm

andrew…….Clev got blown out by the Skins, Steelers, Broncos and Giants. We play five games against those teams this year

phillylifer033
phillylifer033
February 7, 2013 1:54 pm

Vick is still on the roster? OMG!! I guess Im gonna go be a Redskins fan like songs then.It not like they cant cut him b4 march 12 or anything!!Comparing Reid hiring defensive staff first to Chip Kelly is so fuckin stupid;he hired Washburn and made Castillo use his defense!! Billy Davis is coming in here to run the defense his way, thats the difference!! HELLLOOOO!!!

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 7, 2013 2:01 pm
Reply to  phillylifer033

So why wouldn’t you let Billy Davis have any input on his coaches? Does that make any sense to you? These are legitimate questions. If Vicks not in the plans why pay him 3 million nobody is giving up picks for him on or after March 12th. But hey we’re all idiots.

phillylifer033
phillylifer033
February 7, 2013 1:58 pm

You ever think the got blown out because Weeden was trash and kept turning the ball over?Its a domino effect.Dick Jauron was the DC and hes a vanilla coach,but I though the browns D played hard and solid fundamentally,they just were decimated by injury.

phillylifer033
phillylifer033
February 7, 2013 2:06 pm

He doesnt have to have input,Chip Kelly deserves to bring in the people he wants.When you hire a manager he comes in and works with people who are employed.Part of being a good coach is being able to work well with others!! Then if its not working out you make adjustments to the staff.Its not a big deal.

jakedog
jakedog
February 7, 2013 2:06 pm

, I was thinking the same thing, Lurie and Roseman must be queer lovers, but mrs Lurie, although no babe, with that gargoyle with bad teeth?, can’t see it….

phillylifer033
phillylifer033
February 7, 2013 2:08 pm
Reply to  jakedog

Lmao Jake!! You dont think shes in Banners range though? haha

phillylifer033
phillylifer033
February 7, 2013 2:07 pm

Theyre not going to pay vick 3 million because when they release him another team will pick him up and he will make at least 3mil which means the Eagles wont have to pay him.Theyre not stupid;theyre just not gonna throw 3 million dollars away.

Biglion821
Biglion821
February 7, 2013 2:19 pm
Reply to  phillylifer033

We shall see philly, I just don’t like a lot of things that have been going on since the season ended. But hey I am still a fan and I’m hoping for the best.

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 2:09 pm

andrew…Clev gave up +30 four times and +40 once. They also forced more than one turnover just four times and failed to force any twice. The Bengals who ranked just ahead of them in takeaways forced 2+ turnovers NINE TIMES and only failed to get a TO once. Browns ranked 9th based on five take aways courtesy of Mike Vick and 8 in another game against Pitt. Niners ranked 18th and 21st in takeaways under Davis. Cards ranked 10th and 8th. His sack numbers: 27, 34, 42, 33. So his defenses are not particularly good at anything. He should really get the pass rush and takeaways going. The only good thing about him is that at least he will not think LBs are an afterthought. Not that he knows how to pick them.

phillylifer033
phillylifer033
February 7, 2013 2:15 pm
Reply to  jbird

Is the Cleveland Browms!! Even Belichick couldnt win with that shit organization!! Niners when they were at the bottom of the league and the Cardinals with only one respectable season;lucky run that they had.Come on.

Xevious
Xevious
February 7, 2013 3:05 pm
Reply to  phillylifer033

@Phillylifer Bill Coached the Baltimore Organization to be exact…they are the brown organization that skipped town. Cardinals and niners Stunk correct…Im still looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. Im a philly fan for 40 years myself and I can smell danger dude…As for that brown organization Belichick coached they just won their 2nd super bowl in 12 years…pretty good for a shit organization.

haveacigar
haveacigar
February 7, 2013 2:14 pm

hey i hope he hits a grand slam with this hire. i will repeat i have to assume he knows more than me and the rest of you. and maybe davis had back channel input into the coaching staff… these guys play out their moves in private not on blogs or sports pages.

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 2:15 pm

Jake and Philly….a guy that confident and that ugly has to be packin’. Maybe that’s what Mrs. Lurie liked about Joe.

phillylifer033
phillylifer033
February 7, 2013 2:19 pm
Reply to  jbird

Hey you never know man; theres gotta be some reason right? lol

DCar
DCar
February 8, 2013 2:52 am
Reply to  phillylifer033

Yeah, the reason is his BANK ACCOUNT! He’s hung like a light switch, so he ain’t packing $#!T!

phillylifer033
phillylifer033
February 7, 2013 2:18 pm

I dont think that Reids first coaching staff had any ties to Jim Johnson! Everyone is just traumatized from what happend with Washburn(understandably so!) but it is not the same thing.

EaglesSuck
EaglesSuck
February 7, 2013 2:19 pm

Billy Davis???? What about the D line coach in Tampa Bay Randy Melvin? what happened to all the talk about Grantham? this makes no sense at all. I understand he has experience but his resume sucks. He is way overrated with a horrible track record.

EaglesSuck
EaglesSuck
February 7, 2013 2:21 pm

We were all under the impression that they were taking their time to find the right guy and they come up with this? LOL what ever happened to shut out ability?

jakedog
jakedog
February 7, 2013 2:25 pm

Come to think of it, chip never married, eagles are broke back mountain

DCar
DCar
February 8, 2013 2:54 am
Reply to  jakedog

Cue the Blue Oyster Club music, from Police Academy! GOOD GOD!!!!

jbird
jbird
February 7, 2013 2:26 pm

I just can’t see Billy Davis being any good at all. He also has history with DRC so I guess we will be keeping him. I am assuming Ariz fired him and thats how he ended up in Clev as an assistant.

andrew p
andrew p
February 7, 2013 2:26 pm

I know one thing, as of right now, I would take the Browns staff with Norv Turner n Ray Horton over what I see here, you can believe, this is about Banner vs Lurie and who can out due who, on paper it looks like Bsnner has the upper hand