Eagles quarterback Michael Vick spoke to 97.5, and discussed his issues with ball security.
“The other day, I broke out in the pocket, and the first thing Chip told me was to tuck the football,” Vick said. “So I showed him how I was running with it, and he looked at it and he knocked the ball right out of my hands. And he was like, ‘Hold it like this.’ And what he told me felt comfortable. I had a tighter grip on the football. That should secure that problem as long as I work on it.”
So, 12 years in the NFL and not one coach has ever attempted to take a look at how he secures the ball and tried to correct it?
And now after several weeks worth of OTA work with Chip Kelly, the coach spoke a couple of magic words, and now the problem is solved?
That’s ridiculous.
A bad habit isn’t corrected overnight. When a player has been playing the game a certain way at the professional level for over a decade, it’s almost impossible for him to make dramatic adjustments to his game. A year ago, Vick claimed that having a full offseason to work with the coaching staff was going to help him make some serious changes to the way he approaches the game, with one of the key focuses being on getting himself to slide instead of dive on runs in order to cut down on his exposure to vicious hits from defenders.
And once the regular season came around, we saw Vick slide just as rarely as he had in any other year of his career.
The intensity of a regular season game is much different animal from the intensity of an OTA practice. The speed and intensity of the game is ramped up to another level, and typically a guy is going to go back to his comfort zone, and play the same way he’s played throughout his career.
In the interview, Vick also spoke about his critics.
“I’m really tempted right now to just say no comment to that because like I said a second ago, you don’t last 12 years in the NFL not being able to read the defense,” Vick said. “Those people who are talking and saying that are just ignorant, and they know nothing about football. Unless they turn on the film and watch my game and see what goes on, then they’ll replace those comments with the right comments.”
I’ve got two strong words of advice for Vick.
Shut up.
Vick’s got to stop throwing out empty promises while taking jabs at the fan base. It’s a battle he’s never going to win, and he’ll only make things worse for himself in the process. Every time he opens his mouth to talk about his game, he always seems to say something that gives his critics more ammunition. The idea that his fumbling problem is now magically cured after several workouts with Kelly is just as laughable as when Vick claimed that he’s not injury-prone, or that the 2012 Eagles would be the beginning of a dynasty (it’s also worth noting that he saw fit to make the dynasty comment months after his Pro-Bowl left tackle Jason Peters was already lost for the season).
Vick’s words portray him as over-defensive, sensitive, and bitter. And the best words that he can offer in defense of himself are “well you people are ignorant just don’t know football”. When considering his empty promises, unfulfilled guarantees, and poor performances in the past, how can anyone take him seriously at this point?
Why is Vick even concerned about what the media or fans say about him? Right now he should be worried about getting Chip Kelly’s offense down, and getting his teammates to buy in to the new regime.
Few sayings in life hold greater meaning than “actions speak louder than words”. The best thing that he could for himself right now is keep his head down, work hard, and wait for his play to do the talking.
Michael, work your heart out this offseason. Take everything that the coaching staff says to you seriously. Move into the film room. Prove your doubters wrong. Prove me wrong. Prove that Chip Kelly was right to give you another chance to be the star of this team.
Stop telling us that you’re going to fix these problems, and start showing us.
But until the day comes, based on Vick’s past history, when I hear from him that Chip Kelly has supposedly solved his fumbling problem and that everyone that criticizes him “doesn’t know football”, all I can do is shake my head.
Denny Basens is the editor of GCobb.com. Email him at dbasens@ycp.edu
A tiger never loses his stripes. Hey Vick your a bum… Look how pathetic you sound. I can’t slide. Really dude. He’s so stupid he doesn’t even know how to fall down. And now u kno how to hold the ball to stop fumbling.. Lmao. What a lame.. I can’t wait for the day we shit his sorry ass outta here!
Coach Kelly DOES have the Power and intelligence to stop All of Vick’s turnover issues TODAY!
CUT HIM!!!! CUT HIM!!!! CUT HIM!!!
See.. then he can not turn the ball over anymore for us!
It’s so simple it’s Bellicheck ..I mean Genuis
When I hear mike Vick I immediately think of
Stupid
Selfish
Arrogant
Ignorant
Over rated
Unaware
Uncoachable
Oblivious
Wasted talent
Savage
Tomorrow Kelly will solve Vick’s Interception Problem by telling him to be more careful where he throws the ball!
Well he never solved –
Favre
E. Mannings
Bress
And their INT problems are all worse than M. VIck’s so…
All 3 won Super Bowls, & are considered franchise QB’s, something Vick can’t profess. So what’s your point, or this your attempt at yet another way, to throw the race card out? Grow up, & bring something worthy to the discussion, other than ignorant verbal diarrhea.
Um…who said anything about race? That’s clearly your issue not mine.
“All 3 won Super Bowls,”
That’s my point. And all those super bowl guys have higher INT percentages than Vick”s – Vick’s are in the league with Mannings (Peyton) actually – YET all I hear his how he’s an INT machine.
He’s NOT.
Facts bear that out. He is a fumble machine however, but he’s all accumulated an ungodly some of yards on the ground – so no surprise there. He def needs to get that under control.
On a side note – when folk about out fact about M. Vick it’s race card and all other kind of foolishness – but okay…lol…
Dumb argument. U know what those qbs do also ? Throw fucking touchdowns. Take away Eli’s rookie season and Vicks most Tds thrown in a season is lower than Eli’s season low. Same with his passing yards.
Lmfao pathetic. His best season doesn’t compare to Eli’s worst and I didn’t even look at Brees …
Vick is just a bad qb period. If u can’t throw for yards and Tds u stink
If ur career season highs can’t beat some other guys seasons lows you stink
Mike Vick
Turnover machine
Sack machine
Excuse machine
3 and out machine
HERE ARE SOME NOTABLE QBS WHO THREW FOR MORE TOUCHDOWNS LAST YEAR THEN VICK EVER HAS IN A SEASON:
RUSSELL WILSON
JOE FLACCO
MATT SCHAUB
CARSON PALMER
ANDREW LUCK
RYAN FITZPATRICK
ANDY DALTON
JOSH FREEMAN
YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO BE A TOTAL LOSER NOT TO THROW A MINIMUM OF 21 TDS A YEAR
Did I mention ANYTHING about the number of TDs M. Vick throws in a given season.
Way to go for missing the point.
SO we’re extracting playing years for people to make a point?
M. VIck can’t throw touchdowns? Really?
Well guess what Eli can’t run any either – the point is and remains those Super Bowl winning QBs have HIGHER INT percentages than the supposed “Turnover Machine”
Farve leads the league.
But keep missing the point.
and when he was leading the league he stunk.
Look, I hate Favre…..Favre somehow went down to the crossroads, made a deal with the devil, and ripped off a riciculous 4 year run from 1994-1997…he then was able to parlay that into a decade of mostly undeserved accolades.
Very much like the way Vick has been able to paylay his little 6 game run into unending accolades from clowns like you.
The fact is that during those SB run years, Favre kept his int % around 2.4….and ALSO during that time he was throwing 35+ TDS a year!
Takes Vick 2 seasons to throw 38 tds!
From 1995 – 1997 Favre threw 42 ints and 115 TDS! Almost 3-1 TDs to ints
From 2010 – 201v Vick threw 30 ints and 51 tds. About 1.5 – 1 tds to ints.
God, I hate Favre, and you’ve got me frikkin’ defending him because your comparisons are so fucking stupid.
Mike VIck sucks.
Ah and by the way….Favre’s int % really starting going to shit when he hit….wait for it…..33. Before that he had kept thinks in the 3% range, then it just deteriorated.
How old is Vick again?
Good point for missing the point Vinnie –
I’ll say it again – the comparison isn’t stupid – CAREER INT percentages – Brees – Favre and Eli have MORE.
So now stats don’t matter?
You’re making break downs that don’t matter. Favre is the all time leader in INTS –
INTs haven’t been Vick’s problem. Historically they are low (2.5ish) – the numbers bear that out – fumbling however is another story entirely.
It’s amazing – only your stats seem to matter – AMAZING. What accolades am I giving him – I’m point the NUMBERS Vinnie – you know like you always do.
yea really. he cant throw tds really. his season high is 21, TWENTY ONE – THAT IS FUCKING PATHETIC. 21 was his season high for passing touchdowns. 18 qbs threw for more touchdowns last year than Vick has for a season high. I REPEAT EIGHTEEN QBS THREW FOR MORE TD’S IN 2013 THAN VICKS BEST SEASON TOTAL TDS THROWN
THAT IS PATHETIC, EMBARRASSING, PROVES HE CANT THROW TDS AND SUCKS ASSHOLES AT THE QUARTERBACK POSITION.
ITS NOT EVEN DEBATABLE
No the comparison is actually really stupid. Farve has played about 200 more games than Vick. If Vick played about 200 more games from today do you really think his interception percentage wouldn’t get worst? It would be a scary sight (his play today already is). He would be throwing picks and fumbling from his wheel chair.
ANd please stop comparing losers like Vick to Super Bowl winners, and most likely 3 future HOFers. Its pathetic and embarrassing.
Thats like me saying because Matt Cassel has fumbled less in his career than Aaron Rogers so….lets try to say Cassel is just as good/or better because of one stat, without taking into account all other variables/numbers. It would make me sound like a fucking lunatic.
vick doesnt just have an int problem
he has a
cant throw tds problem
fumble problem
int problem
accuracy problem
3 and out problem
accountability problem
People can’t read and comprehend…
1. The number of games doesn’t’ matter. How many TDs he’s thrown doesn’t matter (and why people act like rushing TDs don’t count is beyond me). It’s not about that.
2. You do realize it’s a PERCENTAGE meaning the stat accounts for those who throw many TDs versus those who may not throw as many TDs it’s based on their INDIVIDUAL production.
3. I didn’t mention anything about Vick being a better QB. I pointed out he was NOT an INT machine – the STATS don’t back that up. They. Do. Not.
Now fumbles – that’s another story. But if you’re gonna CLAIM a guy is an INT machine you should back it up – and you can’t.
You guys eat up bullshit stats like crazy – but when I point a widely publicized stat that just happens to be in favor of M. Vick folk lose their shit and try to discount something that’s pretty fucking simple.
Farve may be Hall of Fame QB but he was STILL an INT machine.
You may not like VIck but he is NOT an INT machine.
Those are REAL facts backed up by REAL stats not bullshit stats like Vinnie regularly pulls out of his ass.
The. End.
What IS your point of comparing Vick to them, when there is no comparison. Just because they have similar TO #’s doesn’t make Vick comparative to any of them. All 3 are much better QB’s than him, all 3 won SB’s. Your point is senseless, & stupid. What was your point, in bringing them in the discussion, if it wasn’t racially backing Vick! Vick sucks, & is in no way, shape, or form, anything close to those 3 QB’s. 2 are future HOFers (Favre, Brees) & Eli is very good. So your point is stupid, ill-informed & meaningless! He’s a TO machine, interceptions included. Stop making excuses & stupid, senseless comparisons. It makes you look idiotic! Just saying. I think you’re smarter than that.
Unless Vick had, undocumented off-season surgeries, to replace his brain & undersized hands, what his deluded beliefs, & normal verbal diarrhea he’s spewing, are irrelevant! All talk, all the time! JUST STFU! Everyone is sick of the pandering, condescending talk, & the insults to our intelligence! I just wish he’d go the f^#@ away! Enough, is enough already!
Chip also figured out how to win in the NFL
Score more points than the other team
Vick needs to talk with Tiki about learning ball security, I doubt old Chipper solved that in one non contact practice and for being sensitive about certain subjects your right Denny he would be better off blowing those questions off. Then he’ll just be called arrogant. LOL
Haha all I’d ever want him to say when he’s asked those questions is “I’m working as hard as I can to be the best quarterback I can be”.
I mean honestly, why does he feel the need to talk down to and insult his fan base just because they’re critical of the way he plays? Why does he feel the need to make things personal with the fans by claiming they know nothing about football? Come on Michael, you’re one of the biggest faces in one of the largest sports towns in the country. People here are passionate, and they’re going to rip you apart when you underperform…but that doesn’t mean that they’re rooting against you.
People ripped the hell out of Andy Reid, Donovan McNabb, and every other important figure of the team when they didn’t get things done on the field…just like a lot of people will talk about Vick’s turnovers, injury problems, etc throughout the offseason, people would spend the offseasons ripping Reid because they knew he was never going to run the ball, they ripped McNabb because they thought he’d never get it done, but when the regular season came, the vast majority of fans were all-in 100% and ready to cheer on the team in full force for the next game.
Criticism comes with the job. You can shrug it off, handle yourself with class, and focus on the larger goals that are more important…or you can be petty, make a big deal out of minor issues, and waste your time and energy focusing on those things instead.
Makes me wonder sometimes why somebody hasn’t come up with classes these guys can take for dealing with the media. Lot of money to be made right there.
they have come up with classes and players take them and have their own pr people and organizational pr people. some people are just mental midgets/
That’s my point too, Denny. Just STFU, that’s all I ask of him! It’s bad enough he’s still here, but now we have to deal with his delusions & verbal diarrhea! Just S..T..F..U..!!!!
The more I think about the title of this article “Vick Believes Kelly Has Solved His Fumbling Problem” and the quotes associated with it I can’t help but think this guy totally has mashed potato brains.
For this man to think Chip solved his 10+ year fumbling problem in what 2-3 days and for him to be so adamant about it and his ability literally is absolute proof that Mike Vick has mashed potato brains, I mean this guy is a fully functioning mentally challenged individual.
Really this is mind boggling that he legit believes this.
Guaranteed fact he will be running around “palming” the football around his hip and away from his body week 1 of preseason.
Eagles are going nowhere fast with Vick at the helm.. Why is he even on this Team any longer is beyond me..let’s move on already..
I don’t get it either…
Keeping him on the team is like changing the oil in your car but not changing the oil filter…
Once you start the engine the oil looks the same…(not new)
In Eagles News:
Mike Vick said, ” “So I showed him how I was running with it, and he looked at it and he knocked the ball right out of my hands. And he was like, ‘Hold it like this.’ And what he told me felt comfortable. I had a tighter grip on the football. That should secure that problem as long as I work on it.”
In other Eagles news:
Mike Vick plays pop warner football.
All i think a out now when vick talks is Andy Reid. I seriously and I think you all will agree.. That we are all suffering from Vick fatigue, just like Reid fatigue. He sounds just like Andy when he talks. He talks about how he needs to do a better job and fix his mistakes, then when it’s game time, nothing is fixed and the same dumb mistakes. I’m done. I could care less what he says.
I’m more inteterested in foles and Barkley and Dixon. He’s is really a full blown dumb f*ck.. He still wants to be a G, more worried about his appearance and how he’s perceived instead of getting better. If he starts, I wish for him to take a nasty one and end his season!
TS
You wrote:
“And all those super bowl guys have higher INT percentages than Vick”s”
Except when they were winning SBs they weren’t. They were all in the low 2s when they won.
And….they also had TD% production that obliterated anything MV has ever been able to produce.
Brees SB year 34 tds 11 ints. 2.1% int % and a 3:1 td:int ratio
Fave SB years 77 tds 26 ints 2.3% int % and a 3:1 td:int ratio
Eli a bit of a different story…. never great reg seasons then guy catches lightning in a bottle…2 playoff runs 15 tds 2 ints…a ridiculous 7:1 td:int ratio
Vick last 3 years 1.5 tds to ints…(take away those first 6 games and Vick is at 1:1 td to int)
Mike Vick cannot oven beging to compare to that shit so give it up.
Please stop comparing MV to SB winners….he’s not even in the same stratosphere as the guys you mentioned.
And…you seem to convieniently skip my point about how Favre was able to hold his int$ under 3 (like Vick) till he began to fall off the earth…I expect the same for Brees….and for Vick…
Those guys may have had the same int% as Vick, but at least they were able to compensate by throwing 2x more yrds and tds.
God I could imagine how fast you’d want anyone else run out of here with a career 1:1 td int ratio with the Eagles. For the past 2.5 years he’s thrown 40tds, 30 ints….give it up!!! That’s a David Carr ratio!!
33
Why do the Vickpologists completely ignore age?? Qbs always have their best years from 27-32 (give or take) then fade….Vick is in “fade” time.
And he ain’t fading from much.
This is pure comedy. “Its Gold Jerry, Gold!”
Sorry, but this is too frikkin’ funny….and I have to bring it back up….because frankly I’m having a hard time believing its true…..
I go away to the lake for a few days, no news, and come back to
“So I showed him how I was running with it, and he looked at it and he knocked the ball right out of my hands. And he was like, ‘Hold it like this.’ And what he told me felt comfortable. I had a tighter grip on the football. That should secure that problem as long as I work on it.”
No seriously. Funniest shit I’ve read yet. Thank you Mike Vick.
TS – no one promotes the idea that it is % that should be looked at over pure numbers….but if you are going to compare int%s, then you better also look at TD%s…
Favre’s career int % is 3.3, but his TD% is 5. 6x he had a td% over 6%. 10x a td % over 5%
Brees has TD % over 6 4x
You know how many times Vick has a 6% TD%. Zilch.
Those guys may have int% near Vick, but they compensated by throwing a lot more Tds.
And don’t give me this “running tds” BS. BTW – Brees has as many rushing TDs over the past 2 seasons as your hero does.
And why do you keep hiding from the age question/factor.
Here’s Favre’s int % before he turned 30
2.8, 4.6, 2.4, 2.3, 2.4, 3.1, 4.2, 3.9, 2.8, 2.9…..
his average came in just under 3. Right where Vick is.
And after 32
2.9, 4.5, 3.1, 4.8, 2.9, 2.8, 4.2, 1.3 (outlier), 5.3
His average fading to well over 3…..
The opposite (predictably) happened to his td %.
Vick is 32.
SInce he turned 30
INT % 1.6, 3.3, 2.8
TD% 5.6, 4.3, 3.4
One rising…one falling……and not the way that bodes well.
He’s finished. He’s done.
But we might get a few more funny quotes from him:
“That should secure that problem as long as I work on it.”
You Vick haters throw out bullshit claims about Vick being an INT machine, and when that’s not backed up by actual facts, then you have to move the discussion to other stats the commenter wasn’t talking about.
Tsjohnson made a simple comment about INT%, then made it clear he was only talking about INT%, and Vick Derangement Syndrome kicks in and you have talk about other things he didn’t comment on.
And the comparisons to other QBs is beside the point. Brees, Manning (Eli or Peyton), whoever you people want to talk about, WEREN’T AVAILABLE. You clowns keep blowing a gasket about Vick being here, and Chip Kelly made it clear why he’s still here. He still thinks Vick has tremendous physical ability (he does), and he was the best QB available out of any QBs who could be had in a trade or off the free agent market. Foles hasn’t done shit to just hand him the franchise. He wants the QB job, he has to WIN IT.Plain and simple. Not have it handed to him on a silver platter like last year.
The title of this post was bogus in the first place. Vick said Kelly gave him pointers about his ball security, not that he thought he was cured of all fumbling issues.
If Vick wants to sound off about no nothings like some of the people on this site he’s well within his rights. It’s not like anything he says wins him any points with you people, so he didn’t come out any worse in the deal. You may hate him, but he doesn’t have to shut up and eat bogus claims about his football IQ, since none of you know jackshit about what reads he was supposed to make.
who cares about 1 aspect of this stupid fucker vicks game (ie interception machine or not)?
1 FUCKING STAT CATEGORY DOES NOT EVEN BEGIN TO DESCRIBE HOW AWFUL VICK IS AT QB ITS THE WHOLE PACKAGE COMBINED. YOU KNOW THE PICKS, THE FUMBLES, THE SACKS, THE SACKS 15 YARDS BEHIND THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE, THE 3 AND OUTS, THE LACK OF TOUCHDOWNS…
Case in point of Vick derangement Syndrome. Here goes the pattern:
– Vick hater makes claim about Vick.
– Vick hater is shown to be factually incorrect.
– Vick hater resorts to emotional diatribe because they’re wrong and pissed of about being showed they’re wrong.
– VDS kicks in. Vick hater responds with a post in ALL CAPS.
vds is you
vick dick sucker
the real vds (vick dick sucker syndrome)
– a eagles fan says vick has an interception problem
– vick dick sucker twists his words and changes the fans interception problem comment to interception machine
– vick dick sucker then says legends of the game have comparable interceptions
– vick dick sucker ignores the fact that the comparable candidates put up twice as many points, yards and have higher completion percentages and way less total turnovers…
– eagles fan tries to explain reality around vick and explain with facts why vick is god awful
– vick dick sucker calls the fan a hater.
Com’on Mehinski…you don’t have to stoop to that.
The Vick shit just writes itself. The more you dig, the worse he gets….
I actually think its such a beautiful paradox that blinder wearers like Skayne or TS come on here, read stats that completely expose Vick as one of the worst QBs in the league, ignore those stats, fail miserably at trying to compare Vick to SB winning QBs, and then claim that everyone else is “factually incorrect”
Fantastic.
You can’t make this shit up.
So no need to drop insult….its funnier actually reading their twisted logic.
sorry vinnie everyone has the path they chose for themselves and i dont resort to playing childish name calling games until people call me names. im just a little classless like that… so we have skayne call me some dumb idiotic made up syndrome and call me a hater.
so i fire back to something 50 times funnier and 50 times more honest.
i win.
ps
if you stick up for vick and try to use numbers to compare him to brees, eli, favre. you really have VDS – both versions
skayne, what stats are you referring to, that are factually incorrect? Use our eyes, he’s turns the ball over alot. He can’t read a DF. He is a lose. He sucks. How is that factually incorrect? Proof & he evidence is 10 years in the making. Keep on worshiping your false idol, maybe someday, he’ll come through for you.
Ummmmm, ” Vick said Kelly gave him pointers about his ball security, not that he thought he was cured of all fumbling issues.
Actually Vick said exactly that:
“That should secure that problem as long as I work on it.”
The problem is now secure. Done. Kelly told him once, and as long as he “works on it” the problem has been secured.
Just like the whole “sliding” thing was secured after he said it was last year.
Of course mhenski has to resort to insults. He’s one of those idiots Vick is talking about. As I said VDS. He can’t debate with resorting to insults cuz that’s all he’s got.
I don’t ignore stats. As I said, Tsjohnson made a point about a very narrow topic. Instead of conceding that point, others have to respond with diatribes that don’t address what he was talking about.
When I wrote my first post I didn’t call anyone out by name, Why did you think I was personally talking to you Mhenski? I mean, who here really has the hard-on for Vick?
holier than you approach on a message board what a joke you are. you insult people with your vds comment and saying people have vick derangement syndrome and call people haters all of which are insults and then someone gives you your own medicine and you cry and whine and act like you have class and say some dumb shit like of course i have to resort to insults.
who the fuck resorted to insults first genius?
you played a game and lost, now go suck a vick dick
As I said, where in my post did I name you. But out all the people who criticize Vick, you thought I was personally talking to YOU?
As I said: Who’s really sucking Vick’s dick here?
A lot of you also didn’t seem to notice something. All the turnovers committed on this team are all blamed on Vick. But we had ample opportunity to see this offense run by QBs not named Vick in the last two years. The results were always the same. Turnover prone offense that couldn’t get out of its own way. Kafka turned the ball over, V. Young turned the ball over, Foles turned the ball over.
That’s because you people can’t put the blame where it rightfully belongs. The reason we had so many turnovers is because we had any idiotic pass-happy head coach. If you’re going to throw the football the insane amount of times Reid wants to throw it, turnovers are going to happen. Turnovers as a percentage happen more often on passing plays, and that includes fumbles as well. Increasing pass attempts just increases the chances that a turnover is going to happen. No balance in an offense leads to mistakes because the defense knows ahead of time how you want to attack.
Is anyone here going to claim Kurt Warner is an idiot QB? Yet by the end of his tenure with Rams, they were a turnover prone offense with Warner getting sacked and hit repeatedly by opposing defenses. They’d move the football up and down the field and short circuit with turnovers. That’s because he had Mike Martz calling an insane amount of passing plays, with no regard for balance. His release was one of the fastest in football, yet he was holding on to the ball and taking punishment. Why? Because when the defense doesn’t have to honor run, D-lineman pin their ears back and ramp up the pass rush with no fear of being out of position to defend the run, while giving the defense the freedom to devote more defenders in coverage, squeezing the windows the QB has to throw into. You want less turnovers? Put balance in the offense. The very few times Reid attempted to have balance, Vick or Foles played more efficient football.
The coaching this team has received under Reid has been mediocre for a long time. The Eagle peaked in 2004 and since 2005 Reid is about six games over .500. In 2004 the NFC was garbage. A 9-7 team and TWO 8-8 teams made the playoffs. Now that the NFC is a minefield with very few pushovers, Reid’s flaws that were papered over by J. Johnson’s defense came to the forefront with JJ’s unfortunate passing and the disappearance of any competence on special teams.
a lot of you and you people, that says it all
I see Marcus is back with a new screen name! get a job Marcus!
How does the difference of games not matter? If he played another 200 games like Farve did till the age of like 40, do you really not think the interceptions numbers would go up? Were talking about 200 more fucking games.
Lets me make it very simple for you=The more games you play, the more chances you will throw interceptions.
Vick is the most injury prone QB in the league. Of course he wont throw as many picks as guys that are playing 4-5 more games a season. That just common sense. But of course you never mention that stat. Don’t want to expose your argument for being a joke.
So please just stop its embarrassing to try and compare that loser to HOF/SB winners, esp a guy that can put Vick’s fragility to shame.
The toilet paper Farve uses after eating Chipotle is more durable than Vick.
@skayne that last post was outstanding. Not to much to argue with you on that one.
Nothing to argue….. except he called the Eagles a “turnover prone offence” with or without Vick and then mentioned…..wait for it….Kafka, Vince Young and Foles.
1 – Mike Kafka…he has 16 NFL throws under his belt. Comparing Vick to Kafka is beyond stupid. Saying that everyone is turnover prone in this offence and then mentioning “see – Mike Kafka had turnovers too!!” is just silly.
2 – Vince Young???? Fine. I’ll grant you Vick is better than Vince Young. Vince young threw more ints than tds in his first 3 years in the league. Vince Young is a POS QB. Vince young loves throwing ints. Vince Young couldn’t make the Buffalo Bills or Oakland Raiders. To say that this is a “turnover prone offence” by mentioning Vince Young’s turnovers is like saying the Beatles were popular because they sold a lot of records.
3 – Foles…well, actually….the statement that Foles was just as turnover prone in this turnover prone offense is flat out wrong. Foles interception % (in his limited, rookie games) was a full percent below what Vick’s was in the same season. Take out Foles first start (God forbid a Vickpologist gives a rookie one game to make mistakes) and Foles int rate was half Vick’s.
Strange how someone could throw ints at half the rate as Vick in this “turnover prone offence”.
Amazing how Foles had a 1.9% int rate in this “turnover prone offence”
Amazing how Mcnabb had a 2.2% int rateover his career (including 5 years undr 2%) in this “turnover prone offence”
Amazing how Garcia had a 1.1% int rate in this “turnover prone offence”
But not so amazing how Vick could have a 3.1% int rate over his past 2 and a half seasons.
BAM! Choke on that Vick slurpers! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Hey Vinnie he wasn’t comparing Vick to anybody what he said was in the last years of Andy Reid’s regime it didn’t matter who the QB was turnovers were happening. So what are you talking about? The facts are the facts. Since McNabb left the only run of good Quarterbacking was when Vick took over in 2010. I guess I’m delusional or that didn’t happen. Everything isn’t about Vick, you Mhenski your son Regal are ridiculous. Facts are facts if or when Vick fails and after Foles does nothing we’ll be watching golden boy and his weak arm take over and be in a prime position to draft Bridgewater or Boyd. Then we’ll have another round of which black QB can’t read defenses. And who are you calling racist or stop playing the race card. So predictable.
Big, & it goes on & on!
Totally missing the point hell with percentages Foles had 11 turnovers in 6 games. Period end of story. Reid threw his ass to the wolves and ran his big behind to Kansas City and came out smelling like a rose. Meanwhile we have 5 QB’s 23 te’s 4 de’s trying to be lb’s and two guys playing both ways who just need to be cut. Why am I a Eagles fan again?
LOL! I hurt 100% with you brother!
The stupidity & idiocy, makes my soul weep! LOL!
Some clarity and harbor and avant playing defense
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The Philadelphia Inquirer reports neither Jason Avant nor Clay Harbor are changing positions despite taking snaps on defense in OTAs.
Harbor ended up spending only one day at outside linebacker, while Avant took a handful of reps at defensive back. Reporter Jeff McLane describes the moves as “an effort to explore different scenarios.” Avant says he’s open to anything. “It’s one of those things that I work hard, and whatever that may be, and whatever the team wants me to do, I’ll do it,” Avant said. “I’m going to do it the best I can. I don’t necessarily think it’s a clouded future. I think it’s an honor, in any way, for any coach to think you can do other things.” May 20 – 8:23 AM
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News
We all know that Chip Kelly loves Players who are Versatile.
Remember the Patriots using Troy Brown as a 3rd/4th WR, then on Special Teams and then as a Nickel Back on Defense for them a few Years back.. Troy Brown ended up with a pretty long NL Career due to his Versatility and Positive Attitude and High Football IQ.. Maybe Avant will have be in a similar Path of Opportunity to extend his Career as an Eagle..
Reid’s ass and smelling like a rose should never be used in the same sentence.
Any time a player makes ‘feeling sorry for himself’ or ‘my problem’ comments, he’s going to get flack from the fans…Reporters are really digging hard for stories now, because of limited access to Eagles practices…I expect that to continue this summer because there will be more ‘closed door’ practices, and no wide open access like Lehigh Valley.
You really won’t get an idea of what Kelly’s going to be running this year until the first pre-season game.
Probably not until the 3rd Pre-Season Game..
It will be Curious the first few Games of 2013 (especially a Divisional Rival like the Redskins to hear how they are trying to devise a Defensive Games plan against the unknown of the Kelly and new Look Eagles)
Eagles should have a huge Advantage schematically with the Game Planning for the Opening Game versus the Redskins and need to Win that Game
“Problem has been secured”
You’d think after 10 years the guy would “get it”. But he doesn’t. Throws fans, teammates, coaches under the bus…blames everyone from the refs, to the oline, to the coaches for his troubles, and then there is suprise that people don’t believe the garbage he spews?
Lets break down the lines:
“So I showed him how I was running with it, and he looked at it and he knocked the ball right out of my hands. And he was like, ‘Hold it like this.’ And what he told me felt comfortable. I had a tighter grip on the football. That should secure that problem as long as I work on it.”
Translation. I am a 14 year old High school Freshman. No one ever told me this before. Chip Kelly is good. Everyone else was bad. Oh, and by the way, despite being 4th all time % fumbler in NFL history, I never once sought to seek out another coach to solve this problem. It wasn’t my problem, it was theirs. I waited till Kelly told me during my 12 season.
“Those people who are talking and saying that are just ignorant, and they know nothing about football.”
Translation: Eagles Fans are idiots who know nothing about football. Unless they like me….then its all good!
“Unless they turn on the film and watch my game and see what goes on, then they’ll replace those comments with the right comments.”
Translation: Eagles fans have not “seen what goes on”. They’re blind. One day they will have the “right comments” and the only “right comments” are those that are the same as mine.
Fabulous way to endear yourself to the fanbase – call them stupid…why not flip them the bird while he’s at it….oh wait…..already did…..
“We had a lot of deeper throws last year, which required more time,” Vick said.
Translation: It wasn’t my fault – it was the play calling. All I did was throw deep. (note: the fact that 70% of his throws were under 10 yards last year notwithstanding)
“It’s just a big difference. Not to say there was anything wrong with the west coast system, I loved it. I spent seven years in it, and it was cool.”
Translation: Not to say there was anything wrong with the offense, even though I just said there was something wrong with the offense. But by my saying I didn’t say anything was wrong, the second after I said something was wrong clearly means I didn’t say anything was wrong. You dig?
“But I think the change of pace for me at this point in my career is good and the game is a lot easier now.”
Translation: I’m just trying to sell the same bill of goods I tried to sell after Reeves, then after Mora, and now after Reid. Why isn’t anyone buying??
When this guy gets cut in August my emotion will not be one of jubilation, or happiness, just relief.
The Only Time DENNY has an original thought is when he is exposing his man crush on Michael Vick. The rest of the time this bum is plagiarizing off the boys at the inquirer. Philly.com has Basens’s stories a few hours before he does. NO CREDABILLITY!!!!! Reporting your ignorant ass too.
credibility*
YOUR MOTHER!!!!!!!!
Really Theone, your mother? How old are you? That’s not cool at all.
Hey, Theone1, take your Troll @$$ to Philly.com & stay there, if you don’t like it here! We don’t need POS, infantile, weasels, like you anyways! GTFO!!!!
BTW, while you’re there, get hooked on phonics!
Who else has Mike Vick-Fatigue.. I do and it’s getting as bad as Andy Reid fatigued.. Enough already..