Most Eagles fans expected starting quarterback Michael Vick to go down at some point in the season, but nobody expected it to be because of a hamstring injury. Backup quarterback Nick Foles took over for Vick today and stole the show while leading the Birds to a 36-21 victory over the Giants.
Foles completed 16 out of 25 passes with two touchdowns and was on the money with most of his throws. He finished with a 114 quarterback rating. For the most part, he threw the ball short and underneath of the Giants pass coverages. As has been his custom, he let the ball go early and accurately. Foles showed an amazing feel for the offense as he led the Birds offense down the field.
It makes the Birds 2-3 for the season and they find themselves now tied for the division lead with the Dallas Cowboys.
The former Arizona quarterback made a great throw to tight end Brent Celek for his first touchdown pass of the season. Celek,who has been prone to dropping passes this year, made a great catch over his shoulder for the touchdown. It seemed like a play, which Chip Kelly had in his back pocket all along, but he was just waiting for the right opportunity to call. It was a nice play call and a good example of how to go for the jugular when the time was right.
Eagles defensive end Trent Cole and nickel back Brandon Boykin had forced an interception when they hit Giants quarterback Eli Manning as he was throwing the football. It was a good call by defensive coordinator Billy Davis to shake things up by sending Boykin in there on a blitz. The Eagles wound up with the first turnover of the game and it started a turn around which ended with an Eagles victory.
Foles finished off another Eagles touchdown after Boykin picked off a Manning pass, when he hit DeSean Jackson on a shake and bake fade route. Jackson froze the defender by starting and stopping his route. Foles laid the ball over Jackson’s shoulder perfectly in the end zone.
The Boykin interception was a great one. He laid out for a pass, which Giants number one receiver Victor Cruz originally caught, but the Birds nickel back wrestled it away from him with one arm on his way to the ground. Boykin did a great job on Cruz throughout the game when he was in the slot.
Michael Vick did a good job of running with the football in the first half and it helped him stay away from turnovers, but he struggled trying to complete a pass during his time under center. The Birds offense had trouble putting the ball into the end zone with Vick at the helm. They settled for three field goals along with a short touchdown run by LeSean McCoy.
The speedy quarterback had trouble finding any open receivers as he completed only six of 14 attempts for 105 yards.
The Giants did a good job of slowing down McCoy. They were intent on tackling McCoy on the read options and making Vick run with the football. With the Giants defensive line swarming all over him, McCoy was able to gain only 46 yards on 20 carries.
Vick on the other hand ran the ball 7 times for 79 yards as he set up a couple of the field goals with his legs.
I liked the way Eagles number one wide receiver DeSean Jackson battled through the game despite the fact that it took the Birds a while to get him the football. Jackson has had a problem of shutting things down when a defense is getting the best of him. He continued to compete today and things worked out for him when opportunities opened up for him.
Vick hit Jackson on a deep pass for 56 yards, which should have never been completed. Giants cornerback Trumaine McBride should have picked off the pass, but he let it go right through his hands. The Eagles number one wide receiver was facing double team coverage for much of the game, but he battled throughout the contest and wound up with a big day. He caught 7 passes for 132 yards and a touchdown.
oh sure, now Andy Reid runs the ball!!!!
2 games in a row Mike Vick had to be yanked out of the game
e0, watch it, the idol worshipers, will reprimand you for being a hater.
You are haters, stop denying it. You people nitpick Vick for EVERYTHING.
Funny how when it’s Foles, you see nothing wrong. Last time I checked, he was handed a lead, then lost that lead. Vick haters act like we were behind when Foles came into the game. We were behind after he was in for a full quarter. People criticized Vick after 22-36, 429 3tds no picks. So while Foles did some good things, I’m going to use the same harsh lense that Vick haters use.
Fact is the defense came to the rescue. This season will hinge on the defense just playing average. When the defense does its job, we’ll win most of those games. The defense showed up so we won the game.
No one mentions Foles was completely shutdown in the third and he had the exact same troubles completing passes and making anything happen offensively and finding an open receiver.
lol
Typical (fake) Philly fans.
All I know after a Slow Start, Foles came on as he warmed up and got his legs under him and got into a nice rhythm
When it counted during the 4th Quarter
And led the aeagkes to the decisive points and 2 TD’s to actually Win the Game.. This is all I care about, scoring TD’s and getting the W
He was spotted 16 points.
His nice rhythm came after 3 turnovers and a short field.
He played well, but let’s keep things in context shall we.
God you are such a hater.
Yes. I’m a hater for pointing out the obvious.
lol/smh
RIIIIGHT, haters, & fake Philly fans!!! None of you, are Philly fans, & you 2 nitwits prove it, every time you you make excuses for, apologize for, & protect your messiah Vick! Give it a f^#@ing rest! I don’t root for the name on the back of the jersey, I root for the team. You delusional, irrational, imbeciles can’t understand that! Foles played against the same DF, that Vick was shutout against! You are absolutely brain damaged! Seriously!
this is the 1st exhibition game I’ve seen Foles. Go back to your Vick koolaid
Vick started the game:
Overthrow deep to Jackson
Deep to double covered jackson
Short to a covered Jackson
Overthrow deep to Ertz.
Deep deep deep, Jackson, Jackson, Jackson
Foles came in and went :
Short to McCoy
Short to Avant
Short to Brown
Short to Desean
Deep to Desean
Beautiful 1 minute drive for points. Short passes to set up the toss to Jackson.
Poise, intelligence, game management, awareness of what is available.
All things alien to the Vickpologists. That’s why they can’t comprehend it.
And then he was shutdown in the third quarter.
Foles did a few good things. So you point out the good things and conveniently ignore we lost the lead. The lead Vick had established.
We went a whole quarter where the offense did nothing. The offense scored both tds off defense turnovers.
There are no Vickpologists. Just people who defend him from unfair attacks by Vick-haters.
There are no Vickpologists. Just people who defend him from unfair attacks by Vick-haters.
RealTalk Supports the above statement!
This constant defense of Vick is insane, perhaps an irrational defensive reaction to the criticism Vick receives, but as Irish pointed out, if Vick were playing even at an above average level you could understand why Vick should be the qb when healthy, but as pheags posted uou are either ignorant or have some othe agenda if you could not see how much better the offense runs with foles under center
Here’s something I particularly notice: the offense has a crisp, fast tempo with foles, there was one point when foles gestured for the offense to step it up
He also makes throws that Vick seems not to, throwing the ball in tight, one on one coverage, throwing the ball before the receiver breaks, it was enjoyable to watch
We will continue to hear excuses for Vick, and I also believe foles will struggle with a better defense until and unless he adjusts, but he’s a far better quarterback than vick, now and going forward
“I particularly notice: the offense has a crisp, fast tempo with foles, there was one point when foles gestured for the offense to step it up”
Like when he was shut out in the third quarter and lost the lead Vick had given him?
Vick gave them the lead, really? The 4 FG’s, that we had to settle for, because of Vick’s short field failures, & the TD run by McCoy didn’t do it, huh! Man, you are dense & irrational.
thanks dcar. dont need to say nothing. its clear this tsjohnson5 is clueless and has been since day 1. further it was also clear she wasnt an eagles fan either. im glad in the last 12 hours most gcobb readers have arrived at this same conclusion.
it was 3 FGs to be real and a TD…no short field..
its funny how the vickpologists somehow take it as a negative that a QB actually scored a TD after a turnover…. ‘oh it was on a short field’–like that somehow detracts from foles play… i don’t get it– i really don’t!
Vickpologists? last time I checked Eagles had the lead with Vick in the game…Vickpology for what??? you don’t have to understand or get it…I’ve tried explaining, in other posts, that the ball did not move particularly well…if not for the defense actually playing defense we may have still won that game with FG’s…but some big throws by the kid closed the Giants out wells….that’s all, take from it what you like…because i’m not on here pom pom waving for Foles and giving other aspects of the team some shared credit, I’m a vickpologist? and you know what I think you are, a dumb ass!
By throwing in there that it was a short field you took a view that he was somehow not as good as 7
Foles was spotted 16 points and 3 interceptions. IF you can’t win a football game with all that, well you just shouldn’t be playing in the NFL.
october 2, 2011 mike vicks eagles were winning 23-3 halfway through the 3rd quarter. eagles lost
go away your not an eagles fan and your dumb
Mheshe…watch how you talk to a female, you pussy….wtf does 2 years ago have to do with anything…2010…Eagles were losing 31 to 17 in 4th qtr and the Eagles came back and won…the past is the past…don’t mean shit today!
No, the constant hate of Vick is insane.
Vick is playing at an above average level. You haters refuse to acknowledge it!
What about being tenth in qb rating coming into the Giants game, tenth in a league of 32, with at least 2 qbs on each team, doesn’t fit the definition of above average?
In Vick-haters world, that’s where!
In Vick-haters world you give all the credit to the backup qb when he loses the lead the starter gave him!
Smh
In Vick-haters world you give all the credit to the backup qb when he loses the lead the starter gave him!
LOL – this is not baseball, quarterbacks don’t lose leads unless they turn the ball over…
The Giants took the momentum back in the third quarter and took the lead. Foles was next to Vick on the sideline when the Giants scored their points.
Otherwise, I agree – Vick didn’t do anything to lose his job. And he hasn’t lost his job according to the coach. Nobody else matters.
He also hasn’t done enough to quiet the masses who don’t think he is a good quarterback. And he will never quiet those who just hate the man.
Lol How Predictable! The Vick Haters Never Provide A Fair Assessment Of The Game! When The Game Was Being Contested The Giants Had Shut Foles Down. The Giants Took The Lead And Foles Went 3 And Out With The Same Problems…. Receivers Unable To Get Open…Files Was Holding The Ball…We Were Done Finished….Until Eli Started Giving sGifts And Turning The Ball Over!
The Turnovers brokE And Demoralized The Giants…Then Files Did His Job! Foles Is A Backup He May One Day Be A Good Backup…Mike Vick Is The Wb nd That Is it
At the time Vick was pulled the Giants had all the momentum of the game going their direction. The FG to end the half came after a nice drive by a QB who was thrown into the fire, with his back to his endzone. Not a bad drive for a minute and some odd seconds, but that did nothing to sway the momentum to the eagles favor. Second half starts, Giants make adjustments to the eagles new offensive attack, and their offense comes out and starts to light up the defense and the lead is surrendered. This has never happened in our starting QB’s 12 year career?? Then the eagles are led down the field and get a FG to take the lead back. 4th quarter starts, Eli gives us the ball back on an interception and we make nothing of it. Eli then gives us the ball back again after his pass to Victor Cruz. The QB throws a dime to our TE who everyone accuses of being dead, and we then take a 29-21 lead. This is a the 10:26 mark. Then Eli trying to make a play forces another turnover and the eagles cash in again with a RedZone TD. I would like to point out that it came from and I quote “FADE PASS” to the shortest guy on the field. Perfect ball placement. Brian Billick also backs up that statement. Score 36-21 and also the final score. So, Foles gets 3 turnovers 2 get cashed in and 1 they do nothing with. The question is what was he supposed to do with the 3 turnovers, sit on them and do nothing? Short field people say? Isn’t that supposed to make it easier to score the TD instead of settling for a FG? We scored a TD on 2 of them. We lost the lead in the 3rd after the offense stalled but we took it back to end 3rd with a FG drive, so whats the problem there? QB was shut down in the third? Vick was shut down the entire 1st with no pass completions. He actually didn’t start to turn it one until late in the second. O he made plays with his legs? Cool he normally does that. Point I’m trying to make here is the Giants took his one weapon away in DeSean Jackson, the Offense looked like crap. If we had played run the ball all day the fact is the Giants would have won that game and we would essentially been tied for last place. Now, I’m not say that magically the team is better with Foles at the helm or that I’m hating on Vick (which I kind of am, but I’m not really trying to its all in how I worded it and is interpreted) because I know I’m going to get accused of that.
So Foles was shut down in the 3rd the way Vick was shutdown in the 1st.
Gotcha.
Yes mam that is what I stated. Vick was 0-5 passing in the 1st.
Here’s how they scored.
11:37 1st & 10, PHI20
Michael Vick incomplete pass down the middle
11:26 2nd & 10, PHI20
LeSean McCoy rushed to the left for 7 yard gain
10:59 3rd & 3, PHI27
Michael Vick rushed to the right for 5 yard gain
10:33 1st & 10, PHI32
NY Giants committed 15 yard penalty
10:23 1st & 10, PHI47
LeSean McCoy rushed to the left for 2 yard gain
9:58 2nd & 8, PHI49
LeSean McCoy rushed to the left for 1 yard loss
9:14 3rd & 9, PHI48
Philadelphia committed 11 yard penalty
9:01 3rd & 20, PHI37
Michael Vick rushed up the middle for 34 yard gain
8:21 1st & 10, NYG29
Michael Vick rushed up the middle for 2 yard loss
7:53 2nd & 12, NYG31
Michael Vick rushed to the left for 11 yard gain
7:33 3rd & 1, NYG20
Bryce Brown rushed to the left for 2 yard loss
6:49 4th & 3, NYG22
Alex Henery kicked a 40-yard field goal
6:49
Philadelphia kicked off, David Wilson returned kickoff for 16 yards
Foles in the 3rd: 5-10 for 60 yds.
Completions:
11 yds to McCoy
11 yds to Celek
9 yds to Jackson
22 yds to Avant
7 yds to Jackson
On the FG drive Foles was 2 for 5 for 29 yds and took a sack for a loss of 3 yards which then lead to the FG being kicked.
I don’t know about shutdown, but it was close. What can be taken from this is that we got the lead back.
LOL.
I wasn’t arguing with you.
That’s been my stance from jump.
The first and the third quarters played out in pretty much the same way.
I knew you weren’t arguing. I was just posting facts to also say the 1st and 3rd quarters were pretty much identical, except for the Giants scoring 2 tds instead of 1. This was meant to show people who might later make the argument.
I will give Foles credit that he stepped in and did a good job of running the Offense. He has a good arm and is good at making reads and getting the ball out to the recievers. But if he is the QB going forward, I guarantee you will see him struggle against better Defenses and even not so great defenses whose Coaches who have time to gameplan for him. In fact, we have Tampa Bay coming up next and their defense is not too shabby.
The Giants are not a good team. In fact It would have been a complete embarrassment for the Eagles not to win against the Giants. But, I am not taking anything away from Nick and I am glad that he is on this team and that we got the Win.
If you want to see stupid in print, just read kool breeze above , “one day foles may be a good back up”
I also want to mention did any see Tuck knee Vick on that one play? What cheap shot! I can’t remember if that was before of after Vick came up limp. Still cheap in my book.
Laughing at how stupid some of these comments are. You have those fake Eagles fans saying if Foles played a better D he would struggle? Yea and so would Vick so wtf is the point. Vick struggled against some very bad defenses like Denver, freaking Romo almost put up 50 on them and Vick could only put 13. Pryor/Flynn offense put up more points than Vick lmao. And no shit Foles would struggle he has like 6 games of NFL experience. Even the best Qbs in the league struggled when they had that much inexperience so again wtf is the point of making a ridiculous argument like that. Newsflash Qbs with a little experience tend to struggle in the beginning of their careers.
And You also have stupid people on here who are bringing up pathetic arguments like Foles loses the lead (when in fact the defense did) Yet they just happen to forget to mention that it was Foles who got the lead back with 2 perfect TD throws. So again, wtf is the point people are trying to make here. Are that that desperate and stupid? Are they that racist? Because obviously they are if they cant enjoy what Foles did to the Giants in their own house. Only the real fraud fans wouldn’t enjoy it and try to make BS arguments like that.
– Denver isn’t a bad D. Witten and Bryant are a forced to be reckoned with and when Romo is on, he’s on. He was on last night.
– Foles was shutdown in the third. Same way people are bitching about the first quarter with Vick the EXACT SAME THING happened with Foles in the third. Hence the “he lost the lead”
– Yes two TDs handed to him by the defense with a short field to work with.
Yes but Foles led Offense to TD’s (7 pts) when it matters in the 4th Quarter where Vick has been unable to do so and has the Offense settlling for FG (3 Pts) . .and that’s the Difference which is a huge difference in Winning and losing in the NFL..
Vicks first game versus the Redskins, didn’t the Redskins have 3 Turnovers in the their first 6 Plays.. Got off of the Vick Train TS, for you are embarrasing yourself again..
Expose people for what they truly are Paulman, great points. Look at these people trying to argue the bad play of Eli as the reason for Foles throwing 2 beautiful TD passes. As if Eli throwing INTs can magically give Foles the accuracy and poise to make those td throws all of a sudden. Its one of the most embarrassing things Ive ever seen on here.
Yet these same people didn’t say a damn thing about RG3 sucking it up, throwing 2 ints in game 1. Again I wonder why?
You’re embarrassing yourself.
Did the bulk of VIck’s scores in the Redskins game come off of turnovers?
I’ll wait…
“Yes but Foles led Offense to TD’s (7 pts) when it matters in the 4th Quarter ”
Yes because he was given a short field by the defense. AND he lost the lead by only get 3 in the third. A fact everyone so casually dismisses.
Foles lost the lead? He plays DF now? WOW, you are a nimrod!
-Look at what opposing QBs have done to the denver defense before you make stupid statements like that. Instead of making yourself look clueless just take a look at other Qb stats against that defense. Even Pryor threw for more yards and TDs against them than Vick. Fucking pathetic. I wonder if the Jags can put up pathetic 13 next week
-Actually it clearly wasn’t the exact same thing. Vick didn’t even complete a fucking pass in the entire 1st quarter. Not one completion.
-Yea actually got TDs vs field goals so whats your point. Vick would never be able to make that throw to Djax. Just rewind the game and look at his throw to Avant in the corner of the endzone. Avant had separation (wait I thought the Wrs never get separation) and Vick overthrew a terrible pass that a rookie could make in his sleep. Ill take the Tds v. the FGs, but clearly you don’t appreciate the TDs when they come from Foles. I wonder why
lol.
– I’m sorry did one of those ofenses beat Denver? No? Okay.
– Actually it’s VERY much the same thing. Either you move the chains or you don’t. You (and Vinnie) seem to be the only ones caught up in how that gets done.
– So Vick wasn’t responsible for getting that ball down to the 1 yard line? Shady did that himself huh?
– I guess Foles didn’t make any bad throws the whole game either? He was just lighting it up…oh wait…
Only in TS’s world is 5 of 10 for 60 yards the EXACT SAME THING as 0 of 5 for 0 yards
you don’t even belong here…you’re a ghost…I put you out of your misery a month ago…you little bitch!
Only in Vinnie’s world does 7 carries for 79 yards don’t count.
Not when 5 of the carries should have been throws to someone else. Mobile Qbs can win SBs. Running QBs cannot.
He can’t make folk catch the balls either last I checked.
right those two passes that VICK NEVER WOULD HAVE MADE were a gift
he was 5-10 in the third quarter and led an amazing 2 minute drill for a fg before the half…
He made the exact same throw to Ertz on the exact same route and Ertz dropped it…hit him dead in the hands.
Vick has made that Celek throw a gazillion times. This time Celek caught the ball. Or do we just miraculously forget all of Celek’s drops ’cause he decided to catch a Nick Foles pass yesterday.
pointing out drops takes your insane argument to a new low…. there are always drops on everyteam and every QB, there are bad throws by every qb on every team— just some qb’s get their ‘weapons’ in a better position to succeed… while others are mediocre their entire career.
So receivers consistently dropping balls isn’t a problem?
Celek consistently dropping big passes isn’t an issue? Particularly when said receivers aren’t exactly getting open consistently.
A drop here or there..sure. Consistent drops is like an RB who fumbles…a no go.
they are open but your boy refuses to throw it… talking about drops and what others are doing or not doing is an EXCUSE—simple as that. part of the game.
No the Ertz one was overthrown good try though
yea the one to cooper too…the one time Cooper gets open….
agreed..he missed a td.
Quick….lets play my favourite dame.
It’s called “guess which one is Vick”
Against Denver this year:
28 of 49 (57%0 for 362 1td 4 ints
34 of 62 (55%) for 362 2 tds 2 ints
14 of 27 (52%) for 248 0 tds 0 ints
19 of 28 (68%) for 298 1td 0 ints
25 of 36 (69%) for 506 5td 1 int
Lowest comp%, lowest yrds, lowest tds….and of course, lowest in points.
Only Eli was worse with his 4 ints……and its the same story with every team they’ve played….compare apples to apples against any team the Birds have played and Vick comes out at or near the bottom of each barrel.
Superstar indeed.
Wait let’s play the Did Any of Those Teams Beat Denver Game!
No?
Okay.
No. But they put up more than a pathetic 13 points, which isn’t even close to being competitive in an NFL game.
Look at you all huffy trying to defend a guy who went 52% for 248 and nothing else.
Those #s are a complete joke in a league where everything is squewed towards the pass.
Yeah..cause Vick should throw the ball to himself and catch it.
Cause none of the receivers dropped go ahead TDs or 1st and goals in the Denver game. And they were consistently open the whole time. Vick was just missing them left and right.
Oh and penalties. Oline penalties…he caused those dude that killed some big drives in the Denver game. I know. I know. It’s all Vick’s fault.
Okay.
So afraid you both are that you won’t even entertain the possibility that the kid might just be better than your hero.
He’s certainly light years ahead if where Vick was at 24. and improving…..
That hammy isn’t going anywhere soon. That will linger all year. Frankly, it’d be good fun for Vick to hurry back. It’ll be completely comical to watch him play qb without bring able to run, and I’m due for a good laugh.
The “Kid” was in a QB competition and lost.
So no I’m not worried about him being better. Not. At. All.
Are you an Eagles fan or a Vick fan?
I would venture to guess that once Vick’s career is over with the Eagles there will be a lot less people posting on here.
Eagle fans are happy with the win, and looking forward to seeing them grow and progress in the weakest division in football. Instead, we get endless debates about the QB.
We’ll smoke em out!!! Hahaha.
@greenfan…..Are Regal and Vinnie Eagle fans…they seem to only focus on the QB also…so because one defends the starting QB of this Eagles teams, fan hood is questioned? What about for those like Eagle and the “ghost” who probably watch the games hoping the Eagles lose or 7 gets hurt, just so their QB gets in the game….you cats are hilarious!
I want the Eagles to get better at every position. I want them to play the better players at every position. Including QB. The better QB for this team is Foles.
You want the Eagles to get better at every position….except one.
You want to continue with the same shitty player who’s been bumbling along at the bottom of the QB rankings for the better part of a decade (save a couple games in 2010).
That’s the difference.
Now, If you’d like I will gladly write about the miserable secondary, the undersized and out of position Dline, perhaps you’d like me to comment on the clear deterioration of Herremans’ career. Maybe the glaring need for an effective WR over 6′ tall…
wait….what? You agree with all those things?
That’s weird.
“The better QB for this team is Foles.”
Right. That’s why he’s starting now…oh wait…didn’t he lose that competition. He did.
But you are clearly a guy who doesn’t understand anything about losing….
since we are all clear on our vick feelings can we say who are 5-7 players on each side of the ball that will be contributors to a good eagles team in the next 2-3 years?
Foles, (if given a chance) Johnson, McCoy (obv), Ertz…now its getting thin…..whichever new OL is drafted this upcoming year?
D is even harder
Cox, Curry maybe, Kendricks maybe……….
no reply from ts because she is not an eagles fan and doesnt know any players names besides vick and foles.
@RT777….I don’t determine who “is” and who “isn’t” a fan. I just asked TS becuase I see an irrational attachment to a single player….a need to defend him at all costs….so it makes me wonder if this person is really a fan of the team or just idolizes her QB.
As far as what you described at “ghost” fans, you will need to give me some more REALTALK and an explaination, because I don’t understand what that means. As fan as I am concerned, I cannot even root for the Eagles to lose even when it is in their best interest (like an improved draft position or to get that fatass AR fired), I watch every game, including the pre-season, and watch till the last whistle.
I am tired of the QB talk…just like with politics these days, there are 2 different sides that are cast in concrete, never to actually listen to an argument from the other side, only spout the same old cliches ad naseum. It is now bordering on an obsession with posters on both sides of the argument….and it is all too predictable who and how they will post after each game. I am tired of this….I am happy to see the Birds win on Sunday…while we are 2-3, we are 2-0 in the division and the rest of the division sucks also…..i am interested in seeing our rookie coach get better….i am pleased to see that we are scoring alot more points this year, and believe that there is more room for improvement on offense that it can get even better…..i think that we have a coaching and personel problem on the defense, and want to see what this HC is going to do to address a side of the ball that he seems to neglect.
So RT77…from where I sit, the more Eagles fans the better. Yeah, we don’t all agree, but when we focus too much in individual players instead of the results of the TEAM, that is when I disappear from this site for a while and look elsewhere for good discussion about the team.
“ghost” was just referred to the poster who lost a bet, he’s a ghost to me because he shouldn’t be here…I won’t speak his name…
I agree with you, I’m tired of the talk too. All along I’ve been talking about football as a team game and how the defense needs to play better…But from the posters I speak of, they place the fault at the feet of the starting QB….SD game the Eagles defense did nothing to get TO’s nor get off the field…While the offense still put up 30 points and missed a FG…30 points with little time of possession …but they still yet concentrate on the starting QB, with things like “he should of won the game and got a TD instead of a FG”.then say things like “Foles is obviously the best choice in this offense”…after that SD game how can anyone say that with a straight face…if we received a semi better effort the defense the Eagles would have won easily……But its all out support for the backup when he is aided the help of 16 points as well as strong defensive play….But not taking anything away from the backup he played the way he needed to play we needed him to play and did a great job in relief….see I give credit when credit is due…big reason as to why I get sucked into these QB discussions, because I see the bias in bold…
I know when, Vick went down, I stayed in the game, continued to root for my Eagles team…My son who is 10, was actually being hard on Foles in the 3rd qtr and I had to remind him no one is perfect and just to stay patient, if the defense holds we will win……I’m a coach, I understand team, problem is many of our brother “Eagles fans” dont
I’m not sold on DC Davis either…Mainly his calls sometimes in the game and the lack of adjustments. Need to see more of the 4 down linemen out there on the field.We saw a little more of that against the Giants, Barwin was getting some pressure, at least getting off the ends pretty well at time… We can’t play press conference much with our CB’s because of the lack of speed…But Fletcher and Williams are physical…so if we can generate pass rush consistently, we can start playing more press coverage….Our LB’s have to get better in zone defense…they gotta start looking for players entering their zone, meeting and covering them as if its man to man.
*press coverage…press conference…wtf…ha
OK, thanks for clearing up the ghost comment. Makes sense now.
Really with the way the offense has improved its point production this year, the defense is the biggest stumbling block to us having a winning season. We cannot kid ourselves, even with the improved offense, there are still areas that need to get better. Penalties, red-zone scoring, and some late game time management are all areas that Kelly needs to get better.
I am not a Davis fan either. I think he was a poor choice, along with Shurmer as OC. We all know that Kelly is running the offense, but he leaves the defense pretty much alone. He has his assistant HC looking over the defense too, but Davis does not have a successful background in establishing a winning defense, so you combine that with some poor drafting and trying to change to a 3-4, we have a recipe for disaster. More than anything else I see erratic play on the defense….Kendricks looks like a stud one week and a scrub the next…Williams will play like an all-pro against the redskins and a practice squad player against the Broncos….they do not all look like they are on the same page, and I blame the coordinator for this. I hope that Kelly is paying attention to these issues and makes a change after the season.
Bottom line is this. Chip Kelly chose Vick for whatever reason over Foles maybe he fits better into his system of what he is trying to do. Arguing over whose stats are better won’t change that!! IMHO It doesn’t matter who the QB is right now as long as we win games.
Look! Nobody here is taking anything away from Foles or the way he played. He did what he was supposed to do against a depleted Giants Defense. Forgive me for my indifference but I am not impressed though I will and did give him props for the way he played.
But if you honestly think he is the answer to this teams problems you are delusional. I don’t think he is the answer long term (nor do I believe Vick is).
This team has bigger issues right now and we are going to struggle this year until we get all of the peices in place on both sides of the ball. Meantime, I am just going to sit back and enjoy the rest of the season.
UH OH
Michael Vick (hamstring) participated in individual drills in Tuesday’s practice, and said he was “very surprised I was able to go out there and do what I was able to do.”
Wicked. We are in for a treat.
Mike Vick playing this weekend, but unable to run due to his hammy will be a grandiose spectacle of pure quarterbacking comedy.