According to Geoff Mosher of CSNPhilly.com, the New York Jets are reportedly interested in Eagles’ wide receiver Jeremy Maclin.
The Jets are a team that desperately needs help at the wide receiver position, and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg is very familiar with Maclin from their years together in Philadelphia, so New York would make sense as a possible destination for Maclin.
The Jets will be the first of 2-3 teams that are going to offer Maclin an additional year plus more guaranteed money then the Eagles. I think we will offer Maclin a legit 2 year deal, he will have to decide at this point in his career, with the surgery last season and the one in college, take the $ with a team on the rise, or take more $ with a team that is mid-level or a bottom dweller.
Maclin and his agent should know this contract is a stepping stone. If they are confident in his abilities u take a short show me deal in philly with the hopes u prove u can play and set yourself up for a 30-40 mill deal in 2-3 years.
If they aren’t confident yea sign with whoever gives you the most money. Signing with the jets would be a huge mistake as they can’t pass and really no rob Rex or buddy team really ever could. Calvin Johnson wouldn’t get 70 catches on the jets …
at least the eagles can’t get toasted by Maclin in a jet uniform next year – Dunlap, Reid, and DRC really did a number on the birds in the first month sticking it to their former team
My goodness how can the Eagles survive without a career 60 catch 800 yard injury prone reciever. What shall we do! Damn the Eagles offense will take a step back without Maclin this year. Oh thats right they set records without his let me find the 1st soft patch of grass to lay down on, never broke a tackle 1st roud bust. Nah he cant be replaced.
LOL – dag writes funny stuff
If you listened to Roseman on the radio the other day with Reuben Frank, he expressed a strong desire to address the safeties position this offseason, and get this, said “you dont want to go into the draf with such a glaring hole at a position, youd wanna address that in free agency”. Now Roseman never said they wouldn’t go after a high priced safety but he mentioned the word “stop gap guys” basically guys that are mid level type with the potential to excel. So if the Byrds or Wards of the world get resigned or tagged, these names should be noted. Taylor Mays and Mike Mitchell
Taylor Mays is 6’3 220 and 26 yrs of age. Remember Tommy Gamble was the Director of Pro Personnel when San Fran drafted Mays so he surely had scouted him and/or has some type of input. Mays also played his college ball at USC and faced Kelly once per year during his time there. So they’ll know who they’re getting involved with. The kid has had his struggles but he is fast and can lay a hit. Many have labeled him a bust and maybe he is, but may be the perfect fit for what Davis is trying to do here.
Mike Mitchell is 6’1 220 and turns 27 in june. This guy had a huge yr. He started for the first time of his career and didnt disappoint. He posted four INTs, four sacks and two forced fumbles. He’s also a guy that quickly became the leader of Carolina’s defense and plays aggressively, sometimes too aggressive as he’s prone to get some penalties because of his level of physicality. Look out for this guy as well..
The birds may not get Byrd or Ward, it remains to be seen. Roseman may be sending smoke screens, saying stop gap mid level type guys, while really eagerly looking to make a run for a big time safety. But with all this still remember what Roseman said, they do not want to enter the draft with a glaring hole at safety because then they would be drafting for need instead of the best guy on the board. They want to go into the draft with a “clean slate and open mind”..
I’ve seem Mike Mitchell play all year here in Carolina.. He’s a very good players,smart and physical and would become a fan favorite in PHilly
A good locker room guys who came up the hard way as an undrafted Player from OHio State a few years back and has bounced around the NFL
I would be very surprised if Panthers let him go, but they have alot of free-agents to deal with and would love the Eagles to snatch him up…
Byrd and TJ Ward are going to be too expensive for the Eagles to sign
so a 2nd Tier/Under the Radar type of Player is who they will target..
I think they will talk to Byrf who played for Kelly in Oregon and hope to maybe get a discount deal, but chances are both Byrf & Ward will get
$30-$40 Million Deals that include Guaranteed $$ and I don’t see the Eagles going that high
Mitchell actually reminds me a little of Brian Dawkins to be honest
not as good, but pretty close when you look at the total package
Mitchell couldn’t shine BDawks jock strap! Dude is the definition of a 1 year wonder.
Dawk had some very good Players surrounding him during his Prime Years… but look how Dawkl played his final 2 Seasons as the Defense got weaker and softer with Samuel & Mikell, etc,etc
Dawk gets revered and should, but he was not the same player his last few years and still was a liability in Pass Coverages..
Yeah, & he still was better than anyone we had, since he left. What’s your point paul? Mitchell was a stiff until this year! But, that’s more than likely the kind off stiffs we will be getting as FA signings again! If Weaselman goes another offseason, without signing a legit, difference making, nucleus building Safety, the Birds need to be boycotted! They are $20M+ under the cap, & the inevitable roster cuts, & contract restructuring’s are oncoming, so I don’t want to hear $#!t about signing rotational, & mediocre players again! They won the division last year, & with a stud Safety, & couple of other key FA signings, & a good draft, this team could possibly make a legit run this year. If Weaselman goes another offseason, the Ruin 2morrow way, the team needs to be boycotted, PERIOD!!!!
I agree DCar….
Completely agree.
I still say Coach AR and teh Chiefs take a run at Maclin..
Chiefs have no other WR, outside of Bowe, and Bowe is more of a possesion type and not a deep threat that Maclin could be and never really got to showcase in Philly since D-Jax was the main Deep Threat..
KC makes all the sense for Maclin to play for, He will Play for the man who Drafted Him, play close to home town of St Louis and will be a feature WR on a legitimate Team for the Playoffs the next few Seasons..
Eagles Priority should be to Re-Sign Cooper, than Draft another big-target WR in the 3rd/4th Round after addressing the Defense in the first 2 Rounds
Bowe is good wr so is Maclin but if Maclin goes there he stats are gonna suck like Bowes odd cause they have a pussy armed qb Alex smith so of wants money he can go there if he wants the ball and the money he will stay here him and foles finished the 2012 season with real good chemistry when they played together
Maclin Stays. I don’t get the Desean vibe from him where he wants the money and would leave if another team offers. Desean has never been in this situation, but he would burn us in a minute if the Eagles didn’t pay up. Maclin has probably spent smart, and his finances may be in order after his first round pick rookie deal, which was lucrative. Maclin stays, proves he cant block as well as moonshine man, and gets traded the following season on that 2 year deal. I like cooper better as a blocker anyway, and the draft is soooooo friggin DEEP! We get our legit big receiver this year!
See ya! Don’t let the door hit you in your soft, injury prone, alligator armed @$$!
Maclin isn’t going anywhere unless someone over pays. Maclin stays Cooper goes they go receiver round 1 they sign at least 1 of the safeties on the market and go from there. Taylor Mays is a LB not a safety anymore and I do like Mitchell just don’t overpay for him. I would prefer drafting Pryor or Buchanon but who the hell knows. My top three targets in this draft would be Benjamin, Buchanon and Piere Desir.
Kelly prefers Cooper (style wise) to Maclin.
For Kelly’s offense to work, Wrs and TEs that block down field are essential. Cooper may not be as fast as Maclin is, but he is light years ahead as a blocked.
Go back and look at the tape and you’ll see how enthusiastically Cooper blocks…often riding guys 10 guys down the field.
If Eagle have to decide between the two, Cooper is the choice.
Maclin has always been a good downfield blocker watch the film.
I don’t like “French Name” Players for my Eagle Team…
Let Piere Desir try out for the Flyers..
Haitian paulman try Haitian.
But a Team will overpay, that’s what happens in Free-Agency where
The first wave or two of signings for any Player are
Overpaid.. We see it every Off-Season..
I believe the Eagkes Offense set Team Records last year for
Yards gained, Points, first Downs etc, and this was without
Macilin, so I see no need to Overpay to keep him with his history
Of injurires.. He’s missed 26% of his Games in his 5 Years with the Eagles
Move on and Draft a young WR to groom
I know you’re joking, but seriously, Desir is a really good player who has hugh upside. If we don’t go CB in rd 1, he would be an excellent pick in rd 2,
Yes he is a good prospect no doubt,
Has size, speed and appears to be on the rise up the Draft boards..
I think he goes in the earlly in the 3rd Round before the Eagles
Get a chance to select him, not sure if he has a 2nd Round Grade
But all Teams want bigger,longer CB’s now
WR Cooper Stays and signs a reasonable
3 Year Deal,
Maclin goes out the Door
Avant Re-Structures Current Deal
Eagles Select a WR in the first 3 Rounds
Maclin, Avant, Benn, & Smith are all gone, & should be gone!
We need more speed on the field and Maclin is faster and a better receiver than Cooper…who is easily shut down by average CB’s! Depending how the draft shakes out…we can probably grab a better receiver than Coop in the draft!
Cut ties with him unless he comes back very cheap and keep Maclin unless Maclin wants more than what is reasonable. He is gonna go to the Jets if he gets offered more money…and who can honestly blame him?
You can’t take anything away from Cooper, for his production this year.
But, some may also be ignore the obvious fact that some that production would have been Maclin’s had he not been hurt……..It’s not unreasonable to assume that.
What is unreasonable, is to think Cooper, is more talented than Jeremy Maclin – even with the injury…I say they will sign both, if it is economically possible.
Yeah, but, If he takes a one year deal, and performs, he could put himself in line for an even bigger payday…
People like to limit the possibilities, because they feed in too much into what the media is saying, and get stuck on just that.
It would be smart for Maclin to stay with the Eagles, and for the Eagles to sign him.
I could see them going after Malcolm Jenkins
That would be my choice of pursuit Breezy……Malcolm Jenkins, been saying it for a year now…
Malcolm Jenkins, can also play both Safety spots……..
i want them both back. Team building is about keeping guys like Cooper who will be better here than with another team. Keeping Maclin even if we had a good year without him. He is a vet who has been studying the offense and can make plays. Yes his inj history is a concern but with Cooper stepping up he won’t counted on as much as he was when Desean was hurt and Cooper didn’t have a role. Maclin is better than any WR we could draft especially bc there is so NFL learning curve. He hurt the knee in training camp and will be fine by the time the season starts. We have other needs on D and our attention should be there in the draft and FA not on getting a WR. I only draft a WR if they can help return kicks and are dynamic. Avant is not a fit for this O. I still like him as a football player but he makes too much for what we need him for. Desean Cooper Maclin with Celek and a better Ertz is more than enough when you consider we have Shady. The Champs just won with Doug Baldwin, Golden Tate and Co. Draft get that d line unstoppable add that safety in FA. get more pressure on the QB and the secondary will be better!
NuG, you can’t spend a major portion of the salary cap, on one position, especially on mediocre players, that can be upgraded, rather easily. Use your brain. It is smart, nor feasible, to re-sign both Maclin, & Cooper, unless they are taken a major hometown discount, in which I sincerely doubt! Maclin is an injury prone, alligator armed, overrated, underachieving, bust, & Cooper is a half season wonder, & neither should be overpaid. If someone is going to, sayonara!
*Isn’t smart*
Anyone who thinks bringing back Maclin and Cooper would be spending a major portion of the salary cap on the Eagles has no clue about players contracts, player value and salary cap.
Can you explain it better NuGreembol..
What should Eagles do are far as their Own Free-Agents and who to pursue while keeping an eye on the Salary Cap..
Eagles are fine cap wise I don’t get the concern. We don’t have many guys hitting the streets that we have to sign back let alone any big contract guys up for FA. Maclin and Cooper are not up for huge paydays or extended time on their deals especially not Maclin so im confused as to where Dcar is saying you can’t spend a “major” portion of the salary cap on one position. When you move on from Avant that’s even more money avail. as far as free agency I see one big money move and that’s at Safety other than that nobody is breaking the bank. The Eagles are always among the top teams under the cap. It boils down to who you want to draft after that as far as who you bring back. I would much rather put a patch on the wr corps by drafting signing Maclin back bc you know what you are getting, a vet who is capable of getting open and he knows the offense, Rookie wr take time to adjust you can still draft one later and hope you get lucky. We prob will have to sign a WR anyway if we let him walk so why not him on a short deal. Also we have Ertz who will see a larger role. If they don’t resign him ar we doomed? no way but its the logical fix for a small issue going into the offseason. Like I said the Seahawks won it with Doug Baldwin and Co. so the emphasis is on smart football taking care of the ball on offense which we did last year. keeping the team intact goes a longer way than letting pieces go when you don’t have to. Focus on adding to the D. Some fans make me sick with all the extremism its either a hometown discount or you have to overpay in their eyes. If Maclin wants you to overpay its obvious you let him walk I would think that goes without saying.
I believe what DCAr means is the WR Position itself
When looking at $12.5 for D-Jax, $4.6 for Avant
And then lest say they Sign Cooper @ $3 Million and Maclin at
$2.5 Million which are realistic figures and now your Talking about $21-$22 Million for the WR
Position all for 2014 which is 1/6th the Total Team Cap
(approx $125 per Team)
This is what he means by having too much
Cap Space allocated at 1 Position and this doesn’t include the 5th/6th Receivers on the Squad..
I stated in the first comment Avant would be gone if you bring them back. So you can redo your imaginary cap which btw may be above the 130 million mark this year.
paul that’s exactly what I meant, & those numbers you gave are low, compared to what Cooper, & Maclin will get on the open market, unless they give a major hometown discounts. But, don’t waste your time explaining it to the ill-informed, clueless, & irrational on here. Everybody wants to be right, & lack common sense, & a fully functioning brain. BTW, NuGreenballs, I’ve forgot more about finances, & football acumen, than you can ever hope to attain.
So ignore that I said Avant wouldn’t be on the roster. Dcar your acumen can’t help you if you are going to ignore key points in what was said in a rush to try and dispute. With him gone it’s more than feasible given the numbers. Your point is void regardless of what you meant or how much Paulman understood what you was saying.
I missed you stating that Avant would be out of the picture and not on the Roster and Part of the Salary..
So now, you are down to 3 Players (D-Jax/Cooper & Maclin) Costing you about $17.5 Million with 2-3 more Recievers to add which means your still over $20 Million and 1/6 of your Total Cap Space
Not to mention, that Maclin is also a fragile, injury prone, underachieving, alligator armed midget, who will get too much money in the open market. This dip$#!t doesn’t understand, because of his malfunctioning brain. You especially don’t overpay at a position, when you don’t have a true stud #1 WR to begin with, on the roster. DJax a deep threat, & a #1a, #2 WR. IMHO, Avant, Maclin, Cooper (half season wonder), Benn, Smith, all should be/ could be upgraded. But, that’s not feasible, nor smart to do, in one season. It shouldn’t happen, & it won’t happen. Cooper will be re-signed, Avant & Benn will be cut, Smith will be an all purpose #5 WR, & we will draft at least 1 WR (1st half of the draft, & UDFA). Bank on it!
So true DCar when you state that the team does not have a “true #1 reciever”.
DJax is listed as our #1, but truth be told he is more of a “novelty act” as opposed to a reliable workhorse of a #1 in the Larry Fitz mold. Don’t get me wrong here. I am very appreciative of what DJax brings to the team and the offense, but due to his size alone we are always at the risk of an injury or being man-handled by bigger corners. Yes, his speed is a difference maker, but as you stated, being down to 3 players (DJax, Coop & Maclin) you still need to upgrade the position to see this team improve next year.
So while I want to see this team focus on the defense, that is where going after Benjamin is tempting. I think I might like seeing us use our #1 on a defensive back and getting Robinson with the #2.
You don’t need a “true #1 WR” who is Seattle’s #1 Who was Baltimore’s #1? all these couch potatoes GM’s are funny. Maclin deal would not be long term. Sitting here acting as if the cap will be so bogged down. Dcar you are not smart I saw where you say things like Dion Jordan for Brandon Graham in a trade so you can stop talking to me all together on here. Save yourself all the name calling and CPU tough guy antics.
BTW teams that have that #1 guy how much cap space do they have tied up at WR? the key is to be under the cap comfortably which the Eagles will be easily Maclin or no Maclin. So many players on early deals and friendly contracts it won’t matter if it makes your team better for one year. Now if you just don’t like Maclin that’s different but don’t act like it will tie so much money up. we have over 21 mill in space not including guys that will be let go. with only 3 players to possibly bring back Cooper Maclin Allen. Contract are drawl up all kinds of ways to keep room in the current year like come on.
If you look at the Teams with True #1 WR’s that earn big $$$$
Calvin Johnson with Detroit, Fitz with Cardinals, AJ Green with Bengals, R White & J Jones with Falcons, D Bryant, Miles Austin
With Cowboys, M Wallace with Dolphins, A Johnson with Texans,
B Marshall with Bears and others..
What’s the one common theme here..
That’s right, either no Playoffs or a 1 & done Season
Look at the consistent Teams year in and year out
Patriots, Packers, Ravens & Steelers and now 49ers, Seahawks and you will find most of these successful Teams don’t really have a true #1 WR but instead 3-4 WR’s who all contribute and make Plays when called upon .. Sone thing to think about…
The point I am making, if you spend too much Salary at anyone position, the Team will suffer elsewhere and most of the Teams I mentioned who have overspent have little running game or a poor Defense and can’t stop anyone..
The smart organizations allot x amout for WR like they do at all their Positions and therefore have more quality Team throughout with Talent in all facets of the game..
Paulman you are arguing for and against my point at the same time. I am the one who said you don’t need a #1 wr. What do you think a wr corps of desean Macklin and cooper is? Its not a big money trio. And it will only be for one year. You are starting to talk out of both sides of your mouth. Playing a guessing game of what the numbers will be its been reported the cap will be above 130 this year. Bringing Macklin and cooper back would not push us close to what those teams are spending on we which was my point not their record. I already know a #1 wr doesn’t garauntee victory. Do the numbers we wouldn’t be where those teams spend on wr to make your point valid for the Eagles.
You have to treat each situation individually. Is it wise to spend a lot of money on one position? absolutely not. Will it hurt you for one year when you have so many other good players on reasonable contracts that start for you? No. In the Eagles situation Desean’s contact while it is high it is not at the point where we have draft WR this year. Maclin is a familiar rental which makes sense and would not I repeat would not stop us from making other moves like signing a TJ Ward. There are contracts like Chung 3.2, Avant 4, Casey 4 that are all questionable to be there. more than enough money for one year luxury if you want to call it that. it would not put us where the Cowboys and Co are.
NFC is loaded! Was just thinking about the Eagles chances and looking at the conference. The NFL has built a monster with parity and some damn good football teams in the NFC. The Eagles better draft well. With Seattle, SF, Arizona and even St Louis(who have multiple picks and a very good defense). To Carolina, NO, Atlanta(who has a franchise QB and great WR) and similar to Eagles. To Tampa who is loaded on defense, a rb and great receivers and a coach. To Detroit who is loaded with talent and only a good coach away, to GB with there great QB and offense but needs some defense. Chicago who is loaded on offense but no defense. The Eagles saving grace is that the NFC East stinks.They better go 6-0 or 5-1 in the division. With all these quality teams in the NFC a lot of luck will be involved with whomever makes it. They better friggin fix the defense. .
Jeez relax. The birds will have a bit of a pullback next year (record wise). Totally expected for a team that’s rebuilding. Schedule is also very tough. They’re working towards setting up a run through Foles’ prime (26-31).
But stop worrying about the teams you mentioned.
Seattle has to now face the consequences of their steroid program.
SF will not with with stubborn dickhead Harbaugh as coach, plus they don’t have a QB.
NO is over the hill
Det is still led by a frat boy at QB.
Chicago? You do realize they just re-signed Jay Cutler, thus guaranteeing at best a 1st round playoff flamout every year for the next 3 years….again…at best
GB has no oline or D. McCarthy is a bad coach.
Carolina? Did you watch Newton coming down the stretch. That guy single handedly brings down the whole team with his body language.
I think you may have mentioned TB in the discussion, but that must have been a mistake.
Atl? Maybe…but are you really afraid of them?
STL is led by Jeff 8-8 Fisher.
I don;t have as much regard for these teams as you do.
Again, Eagles not ready for a run next year either. Drafting more Offensive players this year to complete that transformation. Goal to get them acclimated over the course of the year….then D players at the 2015 draft to set up the run from 2015-2020.
You can’t be serious with this crap? Rebuilding? Sorry Vinnie that train left the station they are going into next year with the mindset they are a couple of players away they could give a damn about 2015 or Foles prime years. Realistically they were a play away from being in the NFC championship game this year because they would have beaten Carolina. Nobody wants to hear that step back nonsense, make the right moves this off season and they are right there in the hunt. Make the wrong moves and they will take a step back. Dag stop worrying about other teams because I guarantee Kelly isn’t worrying about them.
vinnie, that was the stupidest, most clueless post, you have ever posted! Seriously?
I think 9 wins gets us the division next year.
The cowboys are a circus with no defense and have like 4 guys calling plays on offense right now…seriously what does that dork Garrett even do? And their QB is a choker in big games
Giants are going to have to rebuild on both sides of the ball. They should just let Coughlin walk now.
Washington is a mess even tho they got rid of Shannahan. The QB is an injury prone drama queen and they have no defense and just lost their leader in Fletcher.
As long as we stay reasonably healthy and do well in the draft/FA we should be in the playoffs for the next 5 years.
I also think the Panthers take a step back this year. And the Seahawks wont be as good either. Its just a natural effect of winning the superbowl, guys dont train as hard in the offseason, got the whole league coming after you, and you got guys who are trying to get paid now more than ever.
While I think Saints/Colts get better
Also that building the program nonsense is for reporters and talking heads so they have something to write about and talk about every team goes into every year thinking it’s their turn. Not okay guys were building towards next year.
Since thus Drafe is pretty thin along the DL
I would like the Eagles to sign 2 Free-Agents along the DL
(NT Linval Joseph, DE Lamarr Houston or DE Arthur a Jones
Or NT Paul Solai) to add to Cox,Fletcher,Logan & Curry
Then Sign a true Strong Safety
And then Draft a Safety, OLB, WR, CB & OL Depth and add a back-up
QB who is somewhat mobile..
Then they are good to go for the next few Seasons
Their Schedule is more difficult next Season pkaying the
NFC West Teams (Seahawks,49ers,Cards & Rams)
But they also play the weak AFC South Teams
(Colts are tough, then Titans, Texans & Jags)
They also have the Packers & Panthers
Then their 6 Divisional NFC rivals
If they can Split in NFC West (2-2)
Split with Packers & Panthers (1-1)
Then go 3-1 vs the AFC South
That makes them 6-4 and then go 4-2 in the NFC East
And they can finish 10-6 which probably wins the NFC East
Again..
NFC. Standings for 2014
NFC East
Eagles 10-6
Cowboys 8-8
NY Giants 6-10
Redskins 5-11
NFC North
Packers 10-6
Bears 9-7
Lions 8-8
Vikings 5-11
NFC South
Saints 11-5
Panthers 9-7
TB Bucs 7-9
Falcons 7-9
NFC West
Seahawks. 12-4
Cardinals 10-6
49ers. 8-8
Rams 7-9
2014 AFC Standings
AFC East
Patriots 11-5
Jets 9-7
Dolphins 9-7
Bills 7-9
North
Bengals 10-6
Ravens 9-7
Steelers 9-7
Browns 6-10
South
Colts 11-5
Titans 9-7
Jaguars 6-10
Texans 5-11
West
Broncos 10-6
Chargers 10-6
Chiefs 9-7
Raiders 6-10
Hopefully the Eagles sign Maclin before March 11 instead of creating a hole in the roster where one didn’t exist before.
The Eagles Offense did well without Maclin last year didn’t they
D-Jax,Cooper had Career Highs, 2 TE’s threats
I don’t see the sense of Urgency of over-paying for
Jeremy Maclin.. He’s missed 21 of his 80 Games due
To Knee,Concussion and Illness..
If they can get him on a 1 Year Prove it Deal,
Then fine, but no way am I signing him to a 3-4 Year
Big Deal, he just hasn’t earned it in my book
He’s a good Receiver, don’t get me wrong,
But Eagles need to add another Big, Strong & Tough Receiver
Instead of the 6ft- 200lbs Maclin in my opinion
To win the SB the Eagles need at least:
1 better DT
1 (or 2) better DE/Pass-rushing OLB
2 new safities
1 – (probably 2) new cornerbacks
An upgrade at wr
and upgrade over Herremans at guard
Also, they have to think about replacing Peters who will be a FA after the season and LT is the 2nd most important position on the field…If Johnson is the replacement, then they need to replace him.
Now, I understand you simpletons think this can be accomplished in 1 draft.
But that’s ridiculous.
Eagles will address the coming hole at LT, then WR and probably the Dline Early this draft.
Probably pick up a 2nd tier stopgap at safety in FA.
The following year will be heavy on D and the Birds ready for SB runs for several years.
Don’t get me wrong, I think the Eagles will win the East, because the rest of the teams are in freefall….
No one said they aren’t going to “compete” or anything like that….but lets be realistic, a couple draft picks is not going to get them through SF or Sea in their buildings, probably not at NO yet either……..
They are still BUILDING to that. Its still 2 seasons out.
Eagles brass knows this, and its why you guys are all going to be pissed off when the birds draft an OT with their first pick.
Oh, and they also need a new kicker and kick returner. A punt returner that scares other teams would be nice also (and no, that’s not Desean ‘fair catch’ Jackson.
But don’t worry….not rebuilding at all…..need new starters at 10 new positions (min) but not rebuilding……not at all….
That is your opinion I don’t think the Eagles front office sees it way. You don’t rebuild after winning a division so maybe we’re just using different terminology. You don’t need that entire list to win a Super Bowl.They need to upgrade the secondary they need a pass rusher you can get that done this off season. So no rebuilding is not what’s going on in South Philly.
call it rebuilding call it building call it whatever the hell you want but anyone with a brain knows this D is at rock bottom and needs to be built up to contend at anything. Everyone on the Eagles payroll knows this. Our entire D could go tomorrow and I wouldnt lose any sleep, they are a disgrace.
For those that think this team isnt rebuilding/building you are just dumb.
GMCliff said the Defense had to be re-built for the past 4 years….
and it still does…
We need a better option at rushing the QB than Barwin, and Cole –
We need to replace, and or upgrade both CB’s in 2 years –
We need to replace both Safeties period –
We need DeMeco Ryans, but also need to find the eventual replacement for him – My Choice is Andrew Jackson – Western Kentucky
We need a Stronger. more Stout DT than Benny Logan –
We have to determine if Fletcher Cox, is a DE, or DT, do what ever they can as Coaches to make sure he doesn’t lean towards bustville.
We need 2 better QB Back up options than Matt stinking Barkley. and the Practice Squad guy…..
We need to upgrade Todd Herramans at OG, and a backup plan at RT, when it’s realized the Lame is not the answer……
and of course we need a WR, – A BIG, and FAST one that isn’t a 1st, or 2nd Round Pick…..
Cliff I like the upgrading terminology I know you get it. Plus you allow me to say Barkley is a stiff, I appreciate that buddy. LOL
🙂
I guess everyone in the Eagles camp from the owner to the coaches are stupid or as you put it dumb. Or maybe just maybe you and Vinnie don’t understand that you can fine tune and win at the same time without rebuilding. Can you comprehend that?
Sorry clown you don’t know what the eagles staff thinks. That’s just ur opinion on what they think.
Let see we just rebuilt the qb, te , defensive scheme, secondary Now we are about to rebuild the wr , secondary , linebacker and possibly d line. Nope not rebuilding the team at all.
Just like last year when they tore the defense down and rebuilt it? You are an idiot Mhenski if you think anyone in that building thinks they have to rebuild anything. Your comments are from someone who has never stepped on and played a real football game in your life. So you don’t understand that’s cool. That brought a new coaching staff in with a different system they didn’t rebuild anything.
Henski let me dial this down, we just have a difference of opinion I don’t want to turn this in to another episode of the Springer show.
Yea last year the d was torn down and rebuilt. Changing schemes and replacing half your starters is tearing it down and rebuilding it.
I guess if you don’t see that no sense debating any further.
The word is upgrade, you rebuild when you lose, you upgrade when you win. When you WIN your division you upgrade. When you finish UNDER 500 you rebuild. See isn’t that easy to understand? But your right if you don’t understand that there is no sense in debating that.
U just tried to tell me we didn’t rebuild last years d we upgrade it? Lol. Ok bro.
We went down in virtually every statistical d category this yeAr compared to 2012 but we upgraded. ?
And ur trying to convince me the 2013 wasn’t completely rebuilt d from 2012 ? Ok.
U were right about me never playing football though however your point was pointless especially when considering the eagles gm never played 1 down of football in his life
Your right this entire discussion is pointless
One last time what was their record in 2012? What was their record in 2013? They rebuilt because they sucked in 2012, now they will upgrade why the hell is that so hard to understand. Damn
Wow… vinnie talking D? The superbowl has changed you hu? Im kind of proud… I feel ive taught you so much this year.
I think Maclin comes back. There will be a bunch of stories coming out within the next few weeks which 99% are probably made up bullshit. Don’t be so gullible. I wouldn’t be surprised if the “source” from the Jet story came from Maclin agents to try and push the Eagles to give Maclin a better deal.
Maclin would be completey stupid to go to that jets offense. Geno is one of the worst starting Qbs I have ever seen (thank god we didn’t use a high pick on him which I was not on board with) and that is a run first offense.
Same with the Chiefs. Look at Bowes numbers last year…if your a WR trying to get a big deal coming off injury why in the hell would you go there? They don’t even attempt passes beyond 10 yards to take advantage of Maclins speed.
These moves make no sense for Maclin. The only reason why they get brought up by these reporters is because of Reid/Marty connection. Thats called lazy reporting when you know absolutely nothing and need to just get your name in the press under a story.
Offense:
By the end of this past season there were new young starters at QB, TE, RT and WR (Cooper)
By the end of next season there will be a new starter at RG, WR and they’ll be grooming a new tackle.
Entering the 2015 season they’ll have replaced:
QB, LT, RT, RG, TE, and 2 WRs….keeping ONLY the RB, centre (who is also pretty young) and left guard, with Desean in a diminishing role by 2015
Replace 70% of your offense in 2 seasons……But that’s not a reuild.
Not a rebuild at all.
Once that “upgrade” (not rebuild) is set, THEN they will move to defense, where players can get acclimated quicker. Then there will be a concentration on DL and DBs who will begin to jell as the new offensive players move into their 2nd and 3rd seasons with one another.
Its not that tough to figure out….Players on O, especially when a QB change is made, take 2 or 3 seasons to really start working together (esp Oline, QB and wrs – you can pretty much drop any dime a dozen rbs in there now-a-days)
It is logical to go heavy on O for the first 2 years of the rebu…..errrrr….upgrade so that they can get those 2 years working together before hitting up the D for its reb….errrrr…..upgrade.
Anyway, I’m off to Portugal for a holiday. Talk to you “win now” simpletons later.
While your there pick up NFL football terminology for dummies, it’ll help you comprehend the difference between upgrading and rebuilding.
They are rebuilding on D and upgrading on O. This is simple. They will however go for D mostly this off season.
Vinnie that’s a very interesting thought process. If the Eagles can upgrade on defense with one of the FA safties and OLB I would not at all object to them loading up on offense with there 1st 3 picks in the draft, stud WR, KR and Olineman. Then finding depth on defense later in the draft. If Benjamin is there 1st pick I wouldn’t be mad at them. Then going heavy on defense the next 2 years. The offense would be set for the next 4-6 years. Very interesting.
If the Eagles don’t sign Maclin by or before March 11 there’s going to be a long list of suitors. I fully expect Maclin to fly the coop if he makes it to free agency.
If Maclin ends up in free agency he’ll likely go to one of these teams:
(remember Maclin probably grew up a Rams fan, but the Chiefs are in his home state)
Chiefs
Rams
Panthers
Ravens
49ers
Jets
I would not discount the Colts (Reggie Wayne getting older and coming off knee surgery) and need another consistent WR
Also the Vikings are in need of a WR as Greg Jennings was a disappointment
After signing a big contract and WR Jerome Simpson will get released this off-season due to his off the field problems leaving them only the young
WR C Patterson who will be a stud in a year or two
For the convo about rebuilding or upgrading…. they r taking best avail players. If thats an OT… fine. But they are not tanking and they are playing their best players again. Just like I said they would last year. In today’s NFL, you cant sit back and coast. Shady may not be shady in 3 years. Djax may be gone. All teams are rebuilding… u think denver isnt looking for a
qb? U think Seattle isnt looking and tall corners? FA will strip them of players in a year or 2.