Is it too soon to think Super Bowl for the Eagles?
Why not this season? Is year two of the Chip Kelly regime too early for justifying the Eagles as contenders to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl?
Las Vegas has Seattle, Green Bay, New Orleans and San Francisco ranked ahead of us as favorites to win the NFC. The Saints knocked as out of the playoffs last season and have upgraded on the offensive and defensive side of the football. The other three teams are on the 2014 schedule, we will battle on the gridiron; speculation with how we rank will be answered.
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When the2014 schedule was released, 10-6 “at best” was my prediction for the Eagles. NFC East champions and a minimum of one playoff win would be a step in the right direction I rationalized as a successful season.
Forget that; I’m re-visiting our thirteen opponents this season.
NFC East (5-1)
-The Giants are learning a new offense with a digressing quarterback leading the charge. Their defense and special teams will help with the turnover woes of Eli. Eagles take both games this season.
-Dallas will be a solid offense; they have playmakers, and will need to outscore their opponents to have any shot of winning games, as their defense is atrocious. Eagles can score with the best of them and handle the Cowboys in Philly, and rally late in big D to sweep the series.
-Washington will ruin our flawless record of the NFC East, they will win on their home turf, and it could very well be D-Jax with the game ball. I hope he enjoys a season that ends week 17; with his new contract, he can focus on upgrading his equipment at the recording studio.
NFC West (2-2)
The Rams are not beating us on our home field with a back-up quarterback. The Cardinals have taken some huge hits to their defense but their secondary is really good and they can limit opponents rushing attacks; I chalk this one up as a loss. 49ers, I feel the Eagles are the better team here, and 49ers are short some key players on their offensive and defensive line. The game is going to be physical, and San Francisco comes through with the victory. Seahawks game will be flexed to Sunday Night football, with the defending Super Bowl champions battling the high tempo Philadelphia Eagles. I expect this game to be close; the Seahawks are not going to be a team that suffers a setback the year after being the best in the game. Eagles win, Eagles win, Eagles win!
AFC South (4-0)
I’m not afraid of big bad Andrew Luck. The third year quarterback is a stud, but their offensive line is iffy, Trent Richardson is average at best, and the Eagles will minimize the big play potential of the receiving core taking this Monday Night affair. The Titans, Jags and Texans are led by quarterbacks who are starters by default, offenses that can’t hang with us, clean sweep of this woeful division.
Green Bay Packers-Eagles are going to see Rodgers, and will be coming off a short week after a Monday Night battle with the Panthers. I think under different circumstances, the Eagles could a win at Lambeau Field for the second season in a row. Not one of their best efforts of the season and the third loss of the season week 11. LOSS
Carolina Panthers- This will be one of the best performances by the Eagles during the regular season. All three phases of the game, the Eagles bring it, changing both the local and national stance on how far the Eagles could go once the playoffs get underway. WIN
Season Review
-A 12-4 finish for the Philadelphia Eagles this season.
-A first round bye.
-Hosts to a minimum of one playoff game.
Super Bowl bound? Yes, but the NFC has some teams who have proven to turn it up several notches come the post-season.
The Eagles are a young team, with elite players at only a few starting positions. There are justifiable reasons why the Seahawks, Packers, Saints and 49ers are ranked ahead of us; they have better “what have you done for me lately” track records.
So why a projected record that most would say is foolish, amateur and at best wishful thinking?
-The best rushing tandem in the NFL with McCoy and Sproles.
-One of the top three offensive lines in the game.
-An underrated quarterback in Nick Foles who will only get better with his first full season as the starter.
-Diversity with the wide receiver/tight-end position to make up for elite play-making ability.
-A top five special teams units both in coverage and in the return game.
-A defense that not only keeps the Eagles in games, but can also win games.
-Charles “Chip” Kelly.
Jeff you kidding me? I could see 10-6 but you’re really reaching at 12-4 and super bowl. This team still needs some fixin,pass rush,secondary,defense big question mark plus the schedule is tough man, you taking colts lightly wow! I will tell you this I’m not happy they didnt keep Josey or Tucker mccoy gets hurt you think Sproules can take over no way and Polk still not well I’m worried bout this area of the team too.I think our special teams improved lets see if maclin can stay on the field and if coop can get open, we’re good at te, love curry when hes used which i wish was more but I think we are still couple yrs from sb, defense not there yet for me thats the one thing i want over everything else is a shut down D then we talk sb cause thats what wins the big games
I’m liking it — Go Eagles!
Last season was so gloomy entering it with the glass frame Mike Vick and a coach/GM tandem that no one believed in.
I know the Birds have weaknesses but I am so exited I don’t see them, I’m blinded with playoff fever — Go Birds!
Love my Birds, and no doubt I would Looooove to see this team in a SB, but pump the brakes Jeff.
Let’s let Kelly win a playoff game first before we start talking SB this year. No doubt that stranger things could happen, but until this defense starts to show that it can play better than last year, I say take it one game at a time.
GO BIRDS!!
Greenfan you nailed it, if the defense is better the sky’s the limit.
Biggy, what is the talk in Jacksonville this week about the game? I know that there is excitement in every NFL team at the start of the year, but how are most in Jacksonville looking at this game? What are they concerned with and where do they think the Birds are vulnerable?
They are excited down here, they can play with anyone on defense it’s the offense that will be their downfall. They will press the receivers and come after Foles and McCoy. Surprisingly they don’t expect much from the Jags down here, but I really like the vibe coming from the team and of course they hired Gus Bradley who is a high energy guy. This game will not be easy they really get after the QB.
Thanks for the local perspective. If we only had a “spy” in every NFL city..haha.
I liked Gus when the Birds were looking to make a change from AR, and for me everything starts with the defense. If you have a strong defense you should be in every game.
I guess this should be a game where the team with the powerful offense goes up against the team with a strong defense. Even though we have a high powered offense I am still a bit nervous about our pass protection, mainly Barbie at RT. If the Jags can get a lot of pressure up front I can see it slowing things down enough to make it a close game. Hopefully we come out strong and our own defense will show that it has improved since last year!
GO BIRDS!!
I just don’t see the Jags being able to cover (Celek/ Ertz), Matthews, and (McCoy/ Sproles) all at the same time on pass routes — Seahawks have the Safeties and Linebackers to do it but the Jags don’t have a pray.
oops, prayer
Of course its too soon . Maybe we should wait for the season to start , Thats a good place to start , The start of the season…..
I live in the DC area and most knowledgeable skins fans are ready to see cousins they think rg3 has gotten worst and they think we should win this division easily
I wasn’t aware that DC Area had any “knowledgeable fans” .. 🙂
(Besides you that is…)
Lol not many pman
They’ve gotta prove they can beat playoff caliber teams first before you there’s any realistic talk of a possible superbowl run.
No doubt Sherel. Let’s see Kelly win a playoff game first before we put them in the SB. It would be great, but let’s not put the cart in front of the horse just yet.
No need to even comment on this delusional nitwits articles! One article is as ridiculous as the last. Let’s win a playoff game 1st, before we start talking SB! Ridiculous! SMMFH….
Hey, are there any repercussions if any one person’s prediction is wrong, no. So get excited. Add a win or two on your prediction! And if you are overly optimistic and by the end of the season you are wrong… nothing happens.
If you’re more concerned about your street cred here than getting excited for a promising season, you’re missing out!
Can’t wait for Sunday!
I think people are over blowing the toughness of the schedule. Why is it tough? Tough is playing teams with explosive offenses like the Saints or Broncos or Packers. Remember our weakness is defense. So playing teams that are “tough” because of defense like SF, Seattle and Carolina plays into our hands. No one is going to hold us under twenty. We have Seattle on the road in December. Carolina is NOT a playoff team this year. And SF is in deep shit and no one seems to want to point that out. By the way if Smith/McDonald suspensions are pending appeal three weeks from now I will fucking lose it. That shit needs to be upheld way before 9/28! Colts and Packers present the biggest issues. You have to account for those one or two you are supposed to win that you don’t and the one or two you are supposed to lose but you win. Put me down for Rams as the game we lose. Our only home loss by the way. D line too much for L Johnson welcoming back from his suspension. Speaking of which, do people realize we are going to duck Aldon Smith and Robert Mathes?? Thats HUGE! Seatle is the predicted loss we win. I don’t think beating SF on the road is one we SHOULD lose. And I DO think losing to Ariz on the road is to be expected by history. I have them at 11 or 12 wins depending on the Indy game and if the Week 17 Ginas means anything. The low point will be when we get hammered by GB making people seriously doubt that D stands any chance in the post season, followed 11 days later with gut wrenching loss on Thanksgiving to the hated 6-10 Cowboys (only divison loss). We stand at a crossroads at 7-5. The bounce back is a sound victory over the Seahawks after a ten day rest and then a revenge thrashing of the Cowboys on Sunday Night Football for the whole country to see (49-17). We finish with four straight wins and look back at the GB game as just “one of those days.”
An NFCC loss would be a successful season. And yeah I know we have recently lost like a million of those under AR so that sucks to lose a fifth time in 14 years. The key is not losing them over and over under Chip Kelly. And I don’t think we will. We are going to have to get a couple absolute studs on defense to get over the hump. I don’t know how that happens but its gonna have to happen. They need an All-Pro pass rusher and an AP in the secondary. And let me distinguish. Not a PB player like the former Trent Cole. I mean an AP like a JJ Watt type beast. Not really good. I mean fantastically great top twenty player in the league!
Jbird, I agree one playoff win would constitute a successfull year with Foles continuing his progress and the defense getting better.
So 10-6 good stats, improved play and go to Seattle and lose is an unsuccessful season… You guys crack me up!
****NFL News****
Broncos WR Wes Welker suspended first
4 Games for “amphetamine use****
How STUPID are these guys? They know they will get caught but yet they still do the stupid crap! SMH……pay me millions of dollars a year and watch me become a genius!
***NFL News****
Dallas Cowboys flying in Michael Sam
For Physical & Workout..
This actually is his best opportunity to make an NFL Roster as Cowboys are desperate for DL and especially Pass-Rusherd..
They will probably wait until after the 1st game to avoid paying him a guaranteed 1 Year Salary.,.
Cut me mick…this ain’t Hollywood it’s the nfl …there are more question marks than answers ..we may very well have offensive woes early on as we try two tight end sets to compensate for protection packages to fill the void of lane Johnson.Its always a great thing to go down the schedule and check off w and losses…but it’s a crap shoot …in order to go 12-4 a lot would have to break right literally …it’s not a likely scenario,with the teams we are playing in the NFC west …I’d be very satisfied to see 9-7 and would be ecstatic for 10-6 …I agree the NFC east is within a realistic goal ..but going 5-1 is very unrealistic..familiarity breeds success ..hers my hopes going in ..Foles clearly in a contract year seizes the reigns …the pass rush improves markedly as graham gets more plays as does curry…this will help the back end ,our Achilles ..if all things are breaking right we win the east we host and win a playoff game and we insure we have a franchise qb…years a success …with a team on the rise..
Don McNabb up to his usual passive aggressive bitch self, commenting on foles in a negative manner , what a surprise bitch ass mcnabb
Just like his bitch ass protégé big puss big lion
A little early in the week to be drinking don’t you think asshole?
On a more serious note has there ever been
more of an overrated quarterback in the history of the NFL and has there ever been a bigger first rate clown, air guitar, shit head
How about McNubb’s picking up the phone vs this Giants on their sidelines/bench area after scrambling for a 1st Down…
What a Clown .. And I am pretty sure that it was Coach AR who cuddled and protected him and soon as he left the Eagles, he became
An Ass saying and doing stupid stuff…
Who really gives a shit what chunky soup has to say …it takes being a franchise qb who can win big games to know one…enuff said.
You dudes kill me with the references to his off the field nonsense no other QB did as much with as little but then again you same clowns were ready to usher in the Kolb era. LOL how quickly we forget. Paulman AR protected McNabb? I thought you knew football.
I not only know Football but psychology also BIggy
There is little doubt that AR shielded, protected & coddled McNabb which is why he had such a hard time accomplishing anything else on or off the field ever since he left Philly.. How did McNabb become known for being a poor pracitice player once in Washington and Minnesota, that his Conditioning was poor, that he picking up the Playbook and work ethic come into question.. Did he just decide he didn’t give a shit once the Eagles got rid of him or was he always like this but AR Protected him..
Yo ube the judge, but hear and read what Teammates say about him and you get a picture of a spoiled,coddled Player who thought he was better than he was, didn’t work hard and was AR’s Golden-Child… Not a lot of Love for D McNabb around the NFL… and this is the reality of the situation whether you want to hear it or acknowledge it Biggy…
Who gives a shit what he did in Washington and Minnesota? I’m talking about Donovan McNabb the EAGLE now acknowledge that. And those teammates rode that shit of a bad teammate to conference championship games and a Super Bowl, you might not like him but give the man his due.
FUCK Kolb and Mcnabb never got shit for weapons until owens and it was too late but McNabb does complain a lot and whine but he is our greatest qb we ever had
smh…McNabb is the best QB to play for the Eagles…hands down! The Eagles have to prove that they can beat playoff caliber teams…Here is the real breakdown for the year:
NFC East (4-2)-They drop 1 game to the Redskins and 1 to the hated Cowboys who give Foles problems
NFC West (1-3)- Not ready for primetime-Seattle lead by Russell Wilson at QB and their tough defense proves to be much too physical and tough for Chip Kelly’s finess offense and no pass rush defense. SF with Kapernick runs rough shod over us in an embarrassing loss, and Arizona pays us back for the luck win last year…we will eke out a win against the Rams who are done because they loss their QB-Bradford
AFC South (2-2) We grab wins against the Jags and Titans but lose to a physical Houston defense and get craved up by Andrew Luck and Indianapolis…lack of pass rush bites us in the ass again!
Green Bay Packers-LOSS- Aaron Rodgers is too much for us
Carolina Panthers- LOSS their defense and Cam Newton works us over again-the lack of a pass rush kills us against the quality QB’s that we face this year that we didnt see last year
Prediction 7-9 in a division so bad that we win the division with this dismal record and get knocked out in the first round-again!
In 2004 with T.O. as his top receiver, McNabb lead the league in TD percentage – 5.7% of the passes McNabb threw that year went for TDs. That was his best year by far.
Last year Foles lead the league in TD percentage – 8.5% of the passes Foles threw last year were TD passes….. 8.5%!!!
Nick Foles is playing in an offense that McNabb never had the luxury of experiencing. McNabb can’t comment intelligently about what Foles might do in this offense. It’s a different game. All McNabb could think to criticize was Foles foot speed….
No Irish Eagle it is YOU who cant comment intelligently about Foles. McNabb gave a balanced evaluation of Foles and an excellent explanation of the offense which, like McNabb said, is based upon the running game.
Listen to the whole interview instead of cherry picking McNabb comments!
McNabb and Baldinger noted how Foles does not have to make tough throws in this offense…receivers are wide open. This is what we saw against sub-par teams…I say that when we play tougher, playoff team defenses….those throws wont be so wide open.
Forget about stats…its about making winning plays in tough, critical situations of games against quality defenses…McNabb did that and won playoff games-like him or not-Foles has his shot to do that this year
McNabb and Baldinger noted how Foles does not have to make tough throws in this offense…receivers are wide open. This is what we saw against sub-par teams…I say that when we play tougher, playoff team defenses….those throws wont be so wide open..
That’s funny… I heard McNabb and Baldinger talk about Kelly’s offense being the reason receivers are always wide open. I heard nothing about sub-par defenses being the reason. Those are your words.. and that is your hope.
You can hope all you want koolbreeze, it’s not going to make Foles fail.
I heard you predict every week last season that – “this will be the week that Foles will crumble”. Now you predict that it will be coming this season…. You don’t have a clue what a balanced evaluation is… You’re a fucking hater….
Mcnabb is such a passive aggressive insecure a.hole who would never say an eagles qb is good! He has mental issues for sure.
He is the best qb in team history but when he opens his mouth it is just blabbering… I loved him as a player, supported him and his efforts, spent many Sundays just marveling at his play… But he is a total idiot when he opens his mouth!
Koolbreeze that is a bad prediction San Fran is.ripe.for.the picking and why do you hype these running qbs kap has terrible accuracy and Carolina starts jason avant at wr we will blow them out
McNabb couldn’t run a two minute offense at the end of a half let alone a no huddle offense the entire game which is Chip Kelly’s offense. McNabb was a game manager hiding behind a great defense. He didn’t fail in the playoffs because he wasn’t the reason they succeeded in the playoffs in the first place. The Eagles were a defensive team in the mcnabb era.
The NFC was a pretty Weak Conference in the mid 2000’s
With Teams like TB Bucs, Carolina Panthers, Chicago Bears competing with the Eagles as the Typical Strong Teams like the 49ers,Packers,Giants were mostly rebuilding during this time.. The Eagles Offensively with McNabb at the helm was simply not good enough or consistent enough and their Defense keep them in games as best as it could as long as it could.. Window on them closed in 2007
Are you kidding me Paulman…McNabb did more with less. He carried the Eagles offensively for a lot years when they refused to get talented receivers. The year they got Owens, McNabb won two playoff games to take them to the Super Bowl with Owens injured on the sidelines. McNabb won despite have a playcaller in Reid who hated to RUN the ball, limiting McNabb effectiveness with play-action.
McNabb does not get the credit he deserves…he did more with less and won more playoff games than any Eagle quarterback in history despite having for most of his career, weak wide receivers, a coach that hated to run the ball, and woefully inadequate and weak play-calling.
McNabb was a solid Goof NFL on a Good Defensive Team that had a very Friendly QB System which was new and innovative in the NFL at the time (besides Green Bay) .. He was a Good , but not an Elite NFL QB and definitely not a “Hall of Fame QB”.. The way he ended his Career with 2 embarassing stops in Washington and Minnesota shows everyone that he was a Product of QB Friendly Coach AR System that many QB’s had success in… and then add McNabb’s off the Field Comments, Arrests, Badgering of Today’s Players since he has retired has cost him whatever slim chance he may had had to make HOF, which I never thought he never deserved as a Player to make it there anyways…
EOS so you’re telling me the Andy Reid coached Eagles were a defensive team during that run? What world do you guys live in?
the best offense by McNabb’s Eagles had was their super bowl year of 2004 which was the 8th best offense in the NFL while the 2004 Eagles Defense was the 3rd best NFL. The McNabb Eagles were a defensive team and McNabb’s strength was taking care to the football and low turnovers. McNabb never had a more productive team offense in NFL rankings compared to his defense.
Bizarro World-Big…smh…You got guys wanting to compare Foles who has never beaten a playoff team in his life to McNabb??WTF…
Oh Kool, are you through with the “fair and square” Vick narrative against Nick Foles now?
what happened to the post season anti-Foles new narrative that without Desean Jackson clearing out the secondary Nick Foles won’t be able to complete a pass? Haven’t heard that one in a while.
Now you want to dust of McNabb, LOL.
well the season hasn’t started yet eagles0superbowl…i’ve laid out my predictions for the year…7-9 in a weak division….and I wont be surprised at all if Mark Sanchez is the starting QB if Foles folds under the pressure….wont surprise me at all!
‘Wont be surprised actually means you would be happy as hell!
During McNabb’s years as the Eagles starting QB, the offense averaged #10 in the rankings for points/game. During that same period the Eagles defense averaged #9 in the rankings for points allowed/game.
So I would say the Eagles were a balanced team on average during McNabb’s years as starting QB.
Who was more overrated the beloved Jimmy Johnson’s defenses or Donovan McNabb?
Interesting question Biggy.
JJ has his devote followers, and his defenses were a big part of the teams in the AR era winning so many playoff games. The heart and soul of the defense was a guy they inheritated from Ray Rhoades…..you know..BDawk who lead by example and provided a toughness the defense needed.
McNabb on the otherhand was statistically and wins / losses the best QB in franchise history. The guy played hurt and played with some less than stellar WR’s for most of his career….that being said he was lucky enough to play with one of the better OLines in the franchise history also. So maybe it evens out? Who knows.
That being said, McNabb has a passive – aggressive personality that just will never endear him to many fans. He has NEVER been able to accept ANY criticism of his game, and has always shown a “chip on his shoulder” whenever interviewed about his past in Philly. To continue to refer to some idiot fans at the draft who booed the pick (because they wanted Ricky Williams….just shows how stupid those fans were) some 20 years later is a personality flaw. And another thing about the draft….if you have watched them over the years, there have been many many players booed (mainly by Jet’s fans or rivals of the Jets), and you never hear another word about it in the media of from the player….but it is never forgotten by McNabb or idiot reporters who will continually bring it back up. Why is that? I really don’t have a great answer, but find it annoying as an Eagles fan.
So in the end, who is more overrated Biggy….my vote would go to JJ. While he had great success, the 1991 defense was the BEST EVER in the historyof this team and possibly (ok, maybe the 1985 Bears?) the NFL, so he cannot even claim to be the best defensive coordinator in the teams history. McNabb is unquestionably the best QB in the franchise history, so I would say that JJ is more overrated.
McNabb was and always will be a goofball but that shouldn’t diminish his accomplishments here with people so fast to rewrite history.
Unfortunately, his stupid actions and comments have diminished his overall reputation, regardless on what he did on the field and his playing accomplishments.. That’s the Way Life goes…
The sad thing , is that McNabb is the one responsible and continues to bring on his anquish and abuse to own self and is soley responsible for tarnishing his own reputation and character… He’s become a modern-day OJ Simpson in a sense… A Tragic Figure ..
What a shame to see happen in front of our eyes…
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Paulman you continually amaze me in what world are you comparing McNabb with OJ? So you remember is playing air guitar I remember him for destroying the Cardinals on a broken ankle which one of those were more important as a Eagle fan? A guy who’s made millions played division one football and basketball and has a career post football and it’s tragic? Stop man just stop.
Just because I know that it upsets you so, Biggy….
I am not talking about the “Crime” so to speak as a comparison, for this is no comparison to what OJ has done in that regard, but instead talking about the Delusional and Self-Denial that McNabb chooses to live in … The Man needs Help…
And you know this how? Because he takes shots at Philly fans? You have got to be kidding me.
Paulman you have topped yourself with such ridiculous comments….stop it! McNabb is the best Eagles QB in history…he was an elite, franchise QB who won playoff games for us…no doubt about it
Do you expect anything less from this attention whore Big? This is the same guy who called Gcobb a racist for not flowering praise on Riley Cooper. You can’t make this shit up…lol.
Pman jesus oj really did McNabb shit in your chunky soup that is a terrible comparison
Paul man you are out of line. McNabb is just another overrated bum, loudmouth like you here on gcobb but not a criminal like oj, you comparing him to oj is like me calling you Phillip “chicken man” testa when in reality like dcar your just garden variety Italian gangster, lol
Wasn’t MCNabb arrested outside of Phoenix
This past January or did you forget about this…
His 2nd Offense I believe..
jake, snorting lines & getting drunk again, wee boy? Go to rehab, & STFU, you racist scab!
Too easy Big, JJ’s defenses. God rest his soul, but I’m still waiting on someone to tell me where his defenses stepped up in the playoffs during his tenure. Overall they were good during his tenure. We all know getting key stops are important. But creating turnovers within that context reigns supreme. There isn’t a defense on ANY SB winning team in last 20 years I can think of that hasn’t played better than Johnson’s when it mattered. So some of the not getting it done label that gets too easily applied to McNabb conveniently escapes JJ’s defenses. But hey lets keep bringing up Mcnabb smiling and shit and further cement our reputations as an idiot fanbase.
Can’t we just say that both the defense and McNabb were good, but they had their faults and move on. I don’t want to go back to another McNabb debate. McNabb was definitely the best QB in Eagles history. I would say that some overrate what he did and some underrate what he did, but he was a definite huge contributor to their success during that time, but so was the defense. This is a team game. Gotta have both to be succesful.
I agree Bugsy, too many people worry about his goofy personality and not his play on the field.
I kinda thought that stuff was funny. I just honestly got tired of him whining and complaining. He played the victim a little too much for me.
That doesn’t take away from the fact that he was a good qb during his time here.
Many points made are valid both praising and criticizing. The NFC was weak during that time. The defense was strong during that time. He didn’t have anyone really to throw to. He had Westbrook. He had horrendous playcalling and no running game. He couldn’t run a 2 minute drill. He threw 3 picks in the SB.
All of that stuff is true, it is just that people use 1 point to make their case instead of looking at the whole situation.
Enough of the history debate….
THE SEASON BEGINS AT ONE ONE O’CLOCK ON SUNDAY…..
WHO IS WITH ME??!!
E….A…G…L…E…S…EAGLES
GO BIRDS!!!
I think most of us are with you, greenfan~
Then there is the other group. The group that watch every week with their fingers crossed hoping as hard as they can that Nick Foles fails…
You know who they are – koolbreeze, SONGSRME2, tsjohnson, skayne…
haha….just to keep it 100 here…you mean, finger crossed hoping a player fails, like many of you wished from 2010 – 2013…haha, very comical.
I never rooted against the Eagles in my life. If Vick was the QB, I wanted him to win….
Most Eagles fans, myself included, loved Vick in 2010… But after 2011 – 2012 when he compiled a 10-13 record and averaged 2 turnovers/game, I was ready for him to move on… Nobody wanted Vick to lose – he just did…
Bull! Irish when Vick clearly won the job in training camp you cried and whimpered…you were clearly in the lets see Vick lose camp…
You talk out your ass koolbreeze. You don’t know anything about me…
Here’s an idea for you – If you want to talk about Vick go to the Jets blog.
I know enough to know that you are drunk and dont know much about football…Here is a good idea for you-watch the games and just shut da hell up
Lol IM with u green
Koolidiot:
“Forget about stats…its about making winning plays in tough, critical situations of games against quality defenses…McNabb did that and won playoff games-like him or not-Foles has his shot to do that this year”
Just like McNabb did in his first playoffs!!
Quick…who is who?
23 of 33 195 yrds 2 td 0 ints 24pts
24 of 33 161 yrds 2tds 1 int 21 pts (against an overmatched TB squad)
20 of 41 181 yrds 1 td 1 int 10 points
Foles, in his 17th start, in the playoffs, had a very good game you twit. He had a better game than any of your other heroes did in their first playoff game. He had this good game ON THE ROAD in the Superdome against a SUPERIOR Saints team.
McNabb did not play as well in his first game, at home against an INFERIOR TB team. When McNabb went on the road in his first playoff game, he stunk.
Newsflash idiot. 1st playoff games are difficult for a QB.
In their first playoff games:
Wilson:
15 of 26 for 181 1td 0 ints 24pts
Newton
16 of 25 1td 2 ints 10 points
McNabb
24 of 33 161 yrds 2tds 1 int 21 pts
Vick
13 of 25 117 yrds 1 td 0ints 27 pts
Foles
23 of 33 195 yrds 2 td 0 ints 24pts
It must freekin’ just burn you up that Foles, in his first playoff game, on the road, against a superior team, played as well as Wilson, and better than the rest of your heros you continually squirt about in here.
Foles was at home for the playoff game, at the Linc.
And led the Eagles for a go ahead score to Give the Eagles the lead with 3 minutes to go..
And squandered too many opportunities in the game..Chip’s offense is designed for high scoring to put a game away…195 and all of the misses just wasn’t good enough for the win
A game can be difficult regardless….whether its playoffs or not..you put way too much on “first playoff game” or “how this player did his 3rd start”…yada, yada, yada….just more gibberish from you.
First playoff game…Last playoff game…bottom line it is just another game…your either prepared or your not…as a team and an individual.
Com’on Realtalk. YOu know that’s BS.
A first playoff game is not like any other game.
Since 2000, QBs in their first playoff game against a seasoned QB are 2-20 or something like that.
Qbs in their first playoff game lose over 90% of the time.
That’s not “just another game”
vinniethefool…you are ridiculous..instead of cutting and pasting stats…try watching the game. Foles first playoff game was at HOME fool!!! Homefield advantage…the fans riled up and he came up short…failing to take advantage of turnovers that the defense provided to score the points we needed to win the game against an offense like New Orleans. We are suppose to score at least in the 30’s with our high powered offense…and we would have except Foles only threw for a measly 194 yards! . The tapes showed DJax running wide open in the Saints secondary but Foles failing to get him the ball. He fell short and lost…bottom line!
Now contrast this to McNabb who took a team to the playoffs with sub-par receivers having to make tough throws in tight windows to get them open. He has playoff wins…Foles does not
Fool ass VinnietheVic!
Russell Wilson has Super Bowl ring and big wins against tough defenses.
Foles does not…he hasn’t beat a playoff defense in his career…not one!
I know it burns you that Russell Wilson is a superior Super Bowl winning QB who is way ahead of Nick Foles who if he is not carefull this year he might find himself on the bench with the clipboard while Mark Sanchez steps in…dont be surprised! Its a contract year and there is a lot of pressure…we’ll see!
Now contrast this to McNabb who took a team to the playoffs with sub-par receivers having to make tough throws in tight windows to get them open.
Are you out of your mind? Did you ever watch McNabb play? I did… I sat in attendance at every home game McNabb played in as an Eagle, and quite a few away games…
Donovan McNabb saved his worse performances for the biggest games of his career. As evidenced by his 50.5 QB rating in his first 3 NFC Championship games…
Donovan McNabb never forced a ball into coverage in his entire Eagles career. McNabb threw the ball into the turf if there was a defender within 10 yards of his receivers…. Donovan McNabb made his living playing catch with Brian Westbrook and Chad Lewis. He was incapable of hitting a receiver in stride.
Tom Brady won 3 super bowls with receivers no better than what McNabb had… The difference was Brady did fit the ball into small windows and got the most from his sub-par receivers.
Donovan McNabb was the best QB in Eagles history only because he was a GOOD QB and the others just average. McNabb was never GREAT, he was vary flawed…
If you don’t know those things, then you don’t know Eagles football.
Irish Eagle, You were drunk at all of those games…McNabb is the best QB in Eagles history because he was a franchise QB that won a bunch of playoff games for us..A lot of QB’s dont compare to Tom Brady, he is one of the best QB’s to had ever play the game…but that being said Brady had better receivers and much better coaching too. Andy Reid was out coached and over matched plenty of times in big games…Brady never had to overcome bad coaching!
McNabb hit plenty of receivers in stride…especially when he got good receivers…who could get open and some separation! TO was hit in stride a lot and McNabb threw an excellent deep ball.
The bottom line is that he was the best he was a FRANCHISE QB -an All-Pro QB and that makes him above ‘good’ or ‘average’….
koolbreeze, you have no idea what your talking about.
The reason McNabb is the best QB in Eagles history is because he was lucky enough to play in Andy Reid’s system for 10 years. If Randall Cunningham was around during Reid’s time he would be the best in Eagles history.
Maybe you didn’t notice, but Andy Reid is still taking teams to the playoffs with good (not great) QB’s….As for McNabb.. he did the same thing AJ Feeley and others did when they left Reid’s system. They fell on their face.
IrishEagle, if my aunt was a man she would be my uncle…Randall Cunningham wasn’t around he won one playoff game with one of the best defenses in the history of the NFL. Love Randall…he didnt get it done…bottom line!
McNabb is the best QB because he got the results, he won the most playoff games than any other QB in Eagles history. Fact
You know nothing about football…McNabb made plays that won playoff games for the Eagles-more than any other QB. Its Players that win games and Coaches/Management that can lose games due to mismanagement, bad decisions, poor drafts. The reason we could not win the big one was Coaching and Management…the only reason we were in the hunt was because of McNabb and the defense!
The only QB that Andy Reid has won playoff games with is McNabb!
An example of what I mean by coaching/management losing games for you is the last year Andy Reid coached for the Eagles! That was the worst coaching job in NFL history. How stupid it was to name Juan Castillo the Defensive Coordinator! I dont care who the Players are…you cant overcome idiot moves like that.
lol
Russell Wilson has Super Bowl ring and big wins against tough defenses.
Foles does not…he hasn’t beat a playoff defense in his career…not one!
Hmm, didn’t Foles beat Green Bay last year? I think GB won their division and were a playoff defense. Wrong again dipshit…. lol
Foles also put three teams out of the playoff by beating them last year…
Tough throws! Tight Windows!
Time for a new line.
Foles, in his first playoff game, played better than McNabb did in his first or second game.
McNabb, while he may have been the best Eagles QB ever (and isn;t that sad) choked in a lot of big games.
He never, ever gave me the feeling that he had a big game comback in him.
In his 9 elimination games that the Birds lost, McNabb threw 9tds with 10 ints.
He threw at least one pick in each of those games, but in 2 there were no tds. He only had multiple TDs 2x in those games.
His QB ratings in the games the Birds were eliminated…
59, 73, 58, 19, 75, 97 (there we go!), and 68
Not sooo good.
He came up small when it mattered most.
Oh ya, Foles rating in his first playoff game?
105
But I know….TIGHT WINDOWS! TOUGH THROWS!!
“Hmm, didn’t Foles beat Green Bay last year?” You are right IrishEagle, Green Bay did win their division with a 8-7 record….but even you wouldn’t slink so low and slimy to put to hold that win up to support anything.
Green Bay without Aaron Rodgers and a terrible, awful defense?
Those guys had a playoff caliber defense with a 8-7 record?
Your kidding right…or just drunk
Figures you would not accept that you were wrong again dipshit!
Like I said Foles beat a playoff team and put 3 other teams out of the playoffs last year by beating them.
Um…beating Greeb Bay without Rodgers and not even Flynn is a joke and you know it.
Come on now. Stop being dense.
Since when did Rogers or Flynn play defense?
Dipshit koolbreeze said Foles never beat a playoff team defense, which is incorrect. But go ahead and keep repeating this bullshit if it makes you feel good.
Guess why Arizona missed the playoffs last year…. cause Foles beat them..
Guess why the Bears missed the playoffs last year… cause Foles beat them…
Guess why the Cowboys missed the playoffs last year… cause Foles beat them…
You two douchebags should find something better to do with your time than talk nonsense on an Eagles message board. lol
Irish Eagle–your an idiot!
Foles caught a huge break against Arizona…another one of his lucky bounces when coughed the ball up in the fourth quarter only for a phantom penalty that saved his ass. But besides that point, losing to the Eagles did not eliminate Arizona from the playoffs fool.
Chicago defense stunk bad last year…everyone was piling up points and yards against them…but it was there loss to Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers that put them out of the playoffs…not the Eagles-fool
The Cowboys loss to us put them out the playoffs in a game where Romo was out and the defense came up with a game ending interception to save our ass-Foles wasn’t great in that game either
Foles had every break conceivable to a QB last year, interceptions dropped or called back due to penalties, Cornerbacks running into each other and falling down, weak defenses, star quaterbacks for the other team being out…you name the lucky break and Foles got it…and still didnt win a single playoff game despite being at home!
I know that we are facing a Gus Bradley defense this week, but I just have the feeling that this Eagles offense is going to explode on Sunday. I have been watching them with their bland vanilla offense and I believe that Kelly has got a number of special uses for Sproles, Matthews and Ertz along with our top weapon Mr. Shady. I just get the feeling that just as in the opening game last year against the ‘Skins, he is going to light up the scoreboard and serve notice on the league that we are for real. This team went 7-1 during the second half of the season last year, and I believe that with this being the second full year under Kelly and his coaches, that this team is primed to jump into the spotlight and make a statement.
Ok, I know that I have no shred of objectivity here….my fandom is showing…however I am looking for big things this week.
GO BIRDS!!!
Greenfan if the Eagles jump out early the Jags will panic and start throwing the ball, which will be a big mistake with Henne. So as much as I love the Jags defense it could get ugly fast if they Birds score a couple of TD’s early.
This game will be close ugly start.. 10-6 Eagles
The Jags Front 7 will contain McCoy and keep Foles on the dink & dunks routes for small gains.. Not until the 2nd half will the pace,tempo
And depth begin to show and wear down the Jags as Eagles score 2 TD’s in the 3rd Quarter as Eagles pull out to a 24-6 lead into the 4th and then add 2 FG’s To make a final of 30-13 with Jags Bortles leading them to a late
4th Quarter TD against the Eagles #2’s…
I’m not convinced the Jags defense is that great.
We will see. Should be fun.
Nice set up.
Brilliant.
Classic TS.
“I’m not convinced the Jags defense is that great.”
So if Foles tears them apart, she call fall back to her, “Jags aren’t great – I am still not convinced” position.
And if Foles falters (what TS wants), she can drop the “He struggled against a Jags team that I don’t think is that good….this doesn’t bode well for him…..”
Absolutely brilliant. Well done TS.
Lol good catch vinnie but you do the same thing
Foles is supposed to tear a hapless, weak Jag team apart, Vinniethefool…they are like the Oakland team we destroyed last year…the Jags suck…so Foles has a great opportunity to pad his stats for idiots like you or fantasy football nuts…
This is an easy win for the Eagles at home against a weak team…the real test starts against the Colts the following week when Foles goes head up with one of the best QB’s in the league in Andrew Luck….Luck will put some points up on the Eagles…we got shoot it out with them and this will be Foles first real test of the year
Love it.
This week is never the test. Always the next week. How can this Foles be sooooo lucky playing nothing but shitters week after week after week. Foles now has 4 ints over his last 16 starts (incl playoffs). Lucky for him he’s never had to play against an NFL D. Nothing but JV arena league squads.
Games against Brees, RGIII, Arizona D, Stafford, Chicago……ummmm, nothing to see here….never happened…..next week will be the test….always next week!
Then he’ll have to make the tough throws in the tight windows!
And look at this. Another creampuff on the sched. No tight throws and tough windows needed against Jacksonville. Everyone will be wide open every play!!
Wait till next week once again….then the test. Colts! But when the Birds drop 30+ there, well just the crappy colts…no tough window throws required.
Week 3 against RGIII is the true test for the windows! Division game!….excpet their D is terribly suspect, and its a new Offense there, so really….week 4 is the TEST for the tight throws! San Fran! Except they’ve got huge injury probs + suspensions, so they are not a true test! So its gotta be St. Louis! Oh wait….Bradford out. Damn that lucky Foles.
When oh when will he get his Tight Windows Tough trows test???????
Just wait to about 2017 Vinny before the old Vick Lovers start to come around and give Foles some Respect…
It’s kinda of funny, with Vick now gone, I am starting to see Post’s about McNabb again… Some of these Guys just can’t let go of the Past.
Vinnie why won’t you leave the website when you lost the bet to never post again
Lol, next week is the real test, always next week. Throwing into tight windows…lmao. It is quite redundant and quite predictable at this point. Kool. I don’t even have a problem with you anymore as some things you state I agree with, however, last year, every time Foles played beyond what I believe was your expectation, you would say…well next week is the real test. Every time Foles answered the challenge you would say next week. It is funny at this point.
Eaglehaslanded, listen to everything…Foles did a good job-last year. He past enough tests to earn the starting job for the team this year. I have not made a single argument that says Foles should not be the starter of this team this year.
He earned that…but does that mean he should get the big contract and be our QB going forward into the future?
Hell NO-he has got to prove that this year…he has got to win a playoff game..
You see Eaglehaslanded, I am simply explaining the basis for my prediction…I’m on the record…the Eagles will go 7-9 and wont win a playoff game. I hope I eat crow and you all can stick it to me…I hope Foles wins big and gets the big contract…but I simply wont believe it until I’m proved wrong…
LOL
If I said the sky is blue you’d argue with me and say no it’s more white than anything.
This has nothing to do with Foles. Who here has the Jags game as a loss? Anyone? I’ll wait.
If we lost to the Jags I’d be surprised as shit. They are my home team. I see them all the time. I DON’T think the defense is as good as Bling thinks. They aren’t bad – but I don’t see them being a real threat.
There is no test here. They lose to the Jags (which they are not) I’d be surprised. REALLY surprised. But sure there’s some ulterior motive there.
Typical Vinnie.
Um what exactly is TS trying to do here?
Jax was 25th in points against and 27th in total yards (29th against the run) against last year. Why would anyone consider them to be a good defense. One season and off season and Gus Bradley are going to suddenly turn that around? BTW – they didn’t even draft a defensive player until the 4th round.
They went heavy on defensive free agents Bugsy, the defensive numbers were bad because the offense was a 3 and out party. That was the reason why they drafted all offense until the 4th round.
So a bunch of FAs and they still a bad offense. Maybe better on paper, but I want to see them play.
I’ve seen them play, they get after the QB and are very physical, the offense is still bad so by the 2nd half the Eagles will roll them.
Vinnethestatman all of the sudden forgot his stats…
.Every one knows the Jags suck
I gotta stat for you vinnie you lost a fucking a bet why don’t you honor it and stop posting on here….lol
Last Year’s Stats with the Jags mean squat with a Team with New Players, the Youngest Team in the NFL with a complete New Coaching Staff, etc,etc.. They will be a better Team this Year, but are still limited in their Talent and Experience..
Last years status may mean nothing to you, but an off-season and pre-season mean nothing to me. So I don’t know how good the Jags defense is going to be and neither does anyone else. Pretty sure that was the point that TS was making.
Seems like TS is just telling the truth there Vinnie.
I agree bugsy.
No, there’s a difference.
I think the Jags are pretty shitty too (though I do think they are heading in the right direction). They’re not ready to come to Philly and win that game. Eagles should pull away, I think fairly easily.
The difference is TS hates Foles and doesn’t want him as Eagles QB. She, Like Koolidiot, is ready at the keyboard to rip whenever he stumbles.
Look, I get it, I was the same with Vick. The difference is…..I was right. She’s not.
SO She, Like Koolidiot, set up these, “its not a test” scenarios to cover their asses.
If Foles wins (which they do not want) they get to drop the “it was an easy game” line. And if he struggles they’ll be all, “struggling against a terrible team!” business.
TS does it subtlety, which is while I complemented her on her guile. Kool is more up front. 2 seasons from now, after Foles has started against every team in the league, Kool will still be dropping his “never been tested” crap.
LOL.
So I’m not right about the Jags defense being overrated by Bling?
I’m gonna ask this question again Did ANYONE see the Jags on the schedule and NOT think the Eagles would start the season as 1-0?
Anyone.
Yeah.
well, vinniedafool…if Foles wins playoff games, wins the big one under Chip Kelly, proves himself to be a franchise QB…then I am man enough to eat the crow and say I was wrong…unlike you who welched on the bet to stay off of here…a claim that we have to say is true since you haven’t denied it!
But until I have to eat that crow…Foles hasn’t won a playoff game yet…this is the year for him to prove it. You are right-I am very upfront…I think Foles will fail miserably, choke up in the big games, and he will be just like your hated Vick…a back up. Vick is a back up because he couldnt stay healthy…Foles will be a back up because he’s not that good …I am predicting that he will be exposed this year for what he really is…and again…I hope I eat the crow and he wins 12 games, go to the playoffs wins some games there…but I have to be true to my football mind…not my heart as a fan…my heart wants Foles or any Qb for the Eagles to win (unlike hyprocrites like you and Irish Eagle and others who only wants the Eagles to win if they have the QB that they like!) but my mind tells me..Foles is not the guy!
I literally just spit my sandwich out of my mouth….can’t type right now, too busy cleaning my keyboard.
Vick’s a Back-up because he still can’t read Defenses after being in the NFL for 10 Years which is the same reason he never than a .500, Average, run of the mill QB in the his NFL.. It’s just that he had superior physical talent that he wasted and was never able to translate into consistent Success over his Career… It’s a shame, but it is what it was… Vick goes down as one of the most “under-achieving” QB’s in recent memory…
Vick is a backup ’cause he can’t stay healthy and you’re likely to have to start someone else even if he’s your starter.
Anverage run of the mill QBs still have starting jobs. And some below average run of the mill QBs have starting jobs. So no…it’s simply b/c he’s The Original Mr. Glass. That’s why he’s getting paid 5 mil to hold a clipboard.
Same as both Henne and McCown who are starting.
Look i’m no vick hater but we ALL KNOW HE CAN”T READ DEFENSES. Your love for him is too much, I’ve actually met him when during his atlanta days. He was coke head and he hung out with a good friend of my sisters named andre kendrick who played at Va tech with him, and also is from lynchburg va where im from. Are you related to vick or is he a close friend of yours
lol/smh
Eh
haha…now Paulman, does that really make sense? How was it he was a starter for 10 seasons if he couldn’t read defenses?
C’mon Real you know it matters not to the site’s attention whore that vick can read defenses. I mean Kelly himself vouched for Vick. and we know what happened when he did that. Mr. attention whore and the rest who were butt hurt over Kelly keeping and vouching for vick’s ability, wanted to run Kelly out of town. If I recall even predicting he’d fail leaving and take the next big college job.
That’s just the same institutional coded language that some use instead of just saying I don’t like black QB’s so predictable.
You know who he can’t read defenses that well right now – Manziel – outside of being slower and whiter he really isn’t that much diff than Vick when he came out of college (same superstar status and bad attitude) – But you’ll never hear anyone say that. Instead you’ll here how he’s a “gamer” and knows how to “win games” but he just needs time to develop.
Let’s hope the Browns do better than Atlanta (Mora Jr.) did with Vick.
I’ll say it TS. I think that Johnny is gonna get killed in the NFL and then be a commentator a couple of years later. Dude is too small to do what he is trying to do. If Cam Newton gets hurt running, then Manziel is going to also. I don’t think that he is an accurate enough passer to succeed in the NFL and he won’t change his game for anyone.
i flat out disagree and there is much evidence in the media about manziels attitude, partying, hundred dollar bill rolled up, trips to vegas with questionable integrity celebs…. that is absolutely false on your part TS!
That is made up race baiting on your part!
LOL.
You hear many of the exact same things about Manziel as you did about MV. You hear about “unmistakeable talent” and “just makes plays” and “he does things no one else can” and blah blah blah.
But cut it with the complete bullshit that you never hear anything bad about the guy.
What fucking planet do you live on to say “you’ll never hear anyone say that (he has a bad attitude).” WTF to you read/hear? It was 24/7 all ofseason about his bad attitude/party ways. Vegas, strippers, rolling bills in bathrooms. There could have been a “Idiot Manziel has a bad attitude” 24/ news channel this past summer.
In fact, it was EXACTLY Manziel’s attitude that cost him Millions falling to the bottom of the first (he should have fallen to the bottom of the 7th because he will stink).
Manziel will suck just like Vick sucked because all running QBs suck. They spend their lives running around like chickens. Have tons of success in HS and college doing so, then get to the Pros and get eaten alive. At least Vick could throw the ball 70 yards.
He was the Starter for Falcons because Owner
Blank wanted him too as the 1st Overall Pick
Dan Reeves was no fan of Vick and wanted him
To work harder and learn the offense and lost his Job because of it..
Then newbie HC Jim Mora Jr coddled Vick,
Then Jail, then Eagles pick him up and was 3rd on Depth chart behind
McNabb and Kolb, then McNabb gets traded,
Kolb gets hurt, Vick steps in and has a great 6-7 weeks,
Then reverts back to his old ways of being a turnover machine..
Then loses job to 2nd year Foles, then signs with Jets
And can’t come close to beating out Geno Smith.
Not what I call a very good Career
Hasn’t played a full 16 Game Season since 2005
Big woopy deal for the 1st Overall Pick !!!
You missed quite a few things in the middle of your blathering about Vick..
.-like winning some playoff games in Atlanta carrying a weak team to the NFC Championship Game
– a miraculous comeback into the NFL after imprisonment,
-comes in takes over an Eagle team after corny Kolb stinks and gets hurt cant do the job.
– Suffers from the worst coaching job in NFL history where an Offensive Line Coach is named the Defensive Coordinator
.- Beats the crap out of Foles head up in direct competition for the starting Job when Kelly comes in…
-keeps the team together in the face of the racist comments of Riley Cooper…saves his ass and
-plays the toughest teams on the Eagles schedule a grueling 3 games in 11 days against playoff teams playoff teams as the Eagles are just starting the brand new Kelly system
-gets hurt and loses his job to injury
-serves as a good teammate to Foles and makes no waves
-goes to the Jets where he never has a chance to compete for the job with Geno Smith-(the Jets wisely deciding that its best to go with the younger Smith than an injury prone vet)
-has played 11 years in the league and now has a backup-will play several more years ,
-named to numerous Pro Bowls in the
-a good solid career, a wonderful comeback story -a solid, decent player and reformed man
They are carving his bust in canton as you typed this!
Okay now where did Kool mention anything about Canton? Sarcasm works well sometimes in this case not so much.
Nice.
I read they’re devoting a whole wing to his greatness. .500 tunover machine QBs only come around once in a generation!
Bingo.
you just cant let it go Paulman…when you make All-Pro has a QB in your career and win some playoff games you can’t possibly go down as the ‘most under-achieving’ QB in recent memory. Maybe in your own jaded memory because you are biased against Mike Vick.
Vick will play several more years in the league…his ultimate down fall and the ONLY reason why he is not the starting QB of the Eagles today is his inability to stay healthy! You cant count on a guy who is hurt all of the time…so he’s a backup…which is what he should be and he’ll be a good backup
This is it for Vick who will retire after 2014 and take a Job with the NFL mentoring young Players for the NFL, which he would perfect for by the way, But his Playing Days are over… Hell, he couldn’t even
Beat out Geno Smith in a System that Vick spent 4 Years with in
OC Marty m System.. It’s over Koolbreeze, let him retire with dignity…
You guys just don’t get it, I like Mike Vick the Person,and admire his growth as a Person after his troubles…
But I don’t like him as a NFL QB, never have, never will, it’s pretty simple
really.. He’s had 3 Good Seasons out 10-11 Years???
What’s so Special about that? And especially for being the number #1
Pick in the Draft….. McNabb had a better Career than Vick as did
Matt Hasselback, Steve McNair, and none of these Guys will ever see Canton, not do any of them deserve to be, for they were simply good NFL
But not Great or Elite….
Why….with the season less than 72 hours away from starting …..is anyone still arguing over McNabb and Vick? Lol …..:) some things will NEVER change.
GO BIRDS!!!
Vinnie hears and sees Vick in his sleep.
I say I’m not convinced the Jags defense is that great.
He says: But Vick.
He can’t help himself.
Greenfan, because it’s the gcobb way. You know that my friend!!!
LOL , I guess I should know that Biggy. There are so many more areas of THIS YEARS team to discuss, but no, same old same old.
Anyway, now that I have both of our Jacksonville residents present, tell me more about the Jag’s offensive line. I know that they have a stud in Joekel, but are there other weak spots where we might be able to mount a strong pass rush?
I think the Jag’s will try and run the ball against this Bird’s defense, which means that Ced and Logan will need to be stout. I can see Davis trying to use Kendrick’s blitzing to get a pass rush, but the Jag’s trying to counter with the run. Ced can handle the run, but I will also be interested to see how much time Hart might see as a replacement to Logan.
Jags oline maybe the worst in football, in my opinion they are the reason Henne is starting and not Bortles, TS and I disagree on the defense but don’t be surprised if the Eagles score more on Indy’s D. By the third quarter the Birds will run away because the Jags offense with Henne is bad.
Let’s hope you are right!
At what point in the season do you think they will go with Bortles?
From the highlights that I have seen, I thought he looked pretty good, but admittedly I did not see his overall performance.
I would love for this Eagles defense to get some confidence and success. Being into their second year with the coaches and players, I am really looking to see improvement from the defense. Last year, especially earlier in the year, there were too many times when it just looked like the players were out of position or didn’t know what was expected. I am looking for much better play this year, and I would hope that also means that the coaches will do a better job knowing the limitations of each player.
GO BIRDS!!
I’m interested in seeing 2 of the Jags wideouts play —Lee and the Penn State rookie Robinson and compare them to our 2nd rounder Jordan Matthews — we could have compared Joeckel and Lane Johnson but Lane was caught cheating
Yes, those will be some matchups to watch, although I believe that Robinson will not see a whole lot of playing time since he was injured most of the pre-season and he is behind Cecil Shorts (Mr. DIII Mt. Union himself!!). I want to see how our DBack’s cover Lee, with a great deal of speed but smaller size. With the “new rules” we saw in the preseason will Cary be able to press him at the line and lay off the contact down the field.
We will see, but it all starts on Sunday. Can’t wait.
GO BIRDS!!
” coaches will do a better job knowing the limitations of each player.”
Excellent point…unfortunately, I don’t think Davis is that kind of coach…he strikes me as the type that is going to try to do things his way…and he doesn’t seem to know when to get the right personnel on the field in the right moments…Allow the players to do what they do best…Some cover better, some rush better, some CB’s are best in press coverage, some players should be blitzing often….If we figures it out, I believe there is enough talent on the defensive side to be effective.
if he figures it out*
Eagles D/Libe may be the worst also…
Think about it.. Really… Does Cox,Logan &
Thornton strike any real fear to opposing Teams?
The Cowboys probably have the worst DL in all the Football
But Eagles have a lot to prove along their DL in my opinion..
We wont know anything outside of pass rush this Sunday. If they lose the sky will be falling. If they win by 30 Chip is a genuis. I look at the season in quaters so after game 4 we will know alot about the talent and the identity of the team.
Is Foles Derek Anderson or Nick Foles top ten QB?
Will Sproles be a mad scientists dream offensively?
Is Ertz a legit top 5 to 10 TE?
Is Cole having a double digit sack year?
Will Curry replace Thornton at the DE slot by mid season?
Do Carrol or Boykin take over an outside slot?
Is Kendricks the face of the defense or Stewart Bradley 2.0?
Jacksonville is in a perfect situation for the young QB Bortles.
Their bye week comes in week 11. At that point several things will have happened.
Firstly, the Jags will be 3-7 or so. No one has any expectations of the Jage being good.
Secondly, the young QWRs the’ll drafted will have had almost a full year in the system.
That will be the perfect time to put Bortles in. There will be no pressure on him (despite what Koolidiot says – this is GOOD for a young QB) There are a couple of creampuffs late. He’ll get to play against the Giants who will have imploded by then, along with 2 games against the Texans who will probably be hovering around 4 wins at that point. A couple of tougher games against Indy and Balt, but with no expectations of them winning those games, he can just play.
That sets up a good bit of no pressure experience for the kid, so he’ll go into next year with that experience and he can continue his growth year 2. Remember it takes 16 games (MINIMUM) before you can start evaluating a young QB.
I look for the Jags to start becoming a very competitive team in about 2016.
Bortles is also in a better situation than a couple other Situations.
I am very worried that they’re going to bring Bridewater in to “save the season” in Minny. This would be a mistake. They’re living under the “Must win now with Peterson before its too late” pressure. SO if they lose a couple early, the media hype machine is going to scream for TB to get in their and same the team. I don’t think they are talented enough to compete in that division yet. Too much pressure on the kid. Usually bad news.
Of course, Oakland is, as usual, doing the dumb thing and throwing Carr to the wolves right off the bat. He’ll be sacked 55x this year and will be completely overwhelmed as they lose game after game after game. What’s the point of putting in the already concussed Carr week 1? What’s to gain there?Let Schaub get pummeled for a couple weeks and put the kid ito get his feet wet later.
I can’t get a read on Cleveland. Not starting Manziel is the right thing to do because he is not ready. Unfortunately for Browns fan, I don’t think he ever will be.
I believe Bortles will be playing well before Week #11
Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in the 2nd Half versus the Eagles if their Offense is really struggling.. Bortles has played well the last 3 Weeks in Pre-Season so I would rather build on his confidence and momentum that he currently has rather than having him sit around for 10-11 Weeks … That’s just me ..
This site is getting lame as fuck. Every thread turns an innuendo filled black white issue, rarely about football. And both sides do it.
Grow the fuck up damn.
U new here?
lol
You know what’s lame? Saying a guy that has played QB for over a decade reasonably well in numerous systems can’t read defenses or better yet comparing Donovan McNabb to OJ Simpson that’s the epitome of lame.
Bunch of lames on here Biglion that dont know much about football!
Sorry Big I’m not cosigning none of this shit. Why y’all respond back and forth on both sides to the stupidity is wack as fuck.
The Seahawks look very dominant. Damn..
This defense looks amazing, and the offense is matching them…
They are a scary scary team…
We have a tough game ahead of us later in the year…
Pre-season wasn’t a fluke.
NFC goes through Seattle until otherwise notified.
smh
Im happy we dont play them right out the gate. This offense and defense needs to gain steam then play higher caliber teams.
If we dont destroy the Jags sunday i wont be too alarmed, i expect the Jags to come out feisty playing hard
And i expect the eagles to have some pits and valley’s
I fully expect us to turn in up midseason going into the second half making a strong playoff run…
Go Birds!
The eagles have decided to forfeit this game cause they are scared.
Dam dam dam dem boyz balling
Sherman hasn’t even sweated yet
Nope.
I like how Green Bay’s strategy was to not just to NOT throw his way but Not to have any REASON to throw his way, sticking him with like their 3rd receiver. lol.
Lol I saw that
Lord have mercy we got Percy epic wilson
That is what we like to call a Good Ol’ Fashion Ass Whoopin.
Brutal.
Packers have a brutal first 4 games…it’s a long season but they could be in trouble quickly. Realistically could be 1-3. They go after a guy like Peppers but their line has been a mess for 3 years. Don’t understand Thompsons logic.
Especially with a monster like Lacy in the backfield. Sherrod makes Babre look like Jon Runyan.