• May 3, 2024

Isn’t Winning Everything?

ninersYou want pretty; pick some flowers, watch a sunset; because the play of the Eagles is ugly.  If it was merely about getting the “W,” the 4-1 record would having us feeling good, but we know that’s far from the truth.

The issue for most, every win could have been a loss, any lead feels far from safe, and each level of our offense and defense has questions with nobody answering.  Chip is providing information about the game, but the team is committing the same mental and execution errors on a week to week basis.

When will it stop or is it going to begin?

Every area that is being exposed the head coach is seeing.  Execution not happening, the coach is taking notes.  His responses provide little insight to how he will correct the errors, but he is not dismissing them.

Everything is in the now with Chip, ask him about anything he would change and expect no “hypothetical” response, it’s not who he is.  Ask about the specifics of a play and you will get his rationale.  Ash him about if this team is a playoff team, the season doesn’t determine the divisional winners and wildcard seeds after five weeks, the season is a seventeen weeks, ask him then.

The focus right now is on the New York Giants.  If the Eagles were to win 41-17 or 31-30, all Chip cares about is the “5” which would read in the win column once the clock showed all zeros.

It’s going to drive the fan base and media absolutely nuts if they try to examine the obvious with this team.

It’s tough to relax as a fan when the Eagles are playing the way that they are.  It’s going to drive you completely mad trying to make sense of how this season has transpired so far.

Simplify it, do that for your psyche.  4-1 and a tie for first place in the standings; it’s the truth, the reality, even if how we got to the point is not to your liking.

Jeff Kolsky

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jo mama
jo mama
October 8, 2014 8:29 am

Winning is everything. And that’s all that matters. I am watching this team improve week to week, with the exception of the secondary( carry, and fletcher) and Nick Foles. Now I endorsed nick Foles because he showed Philly the toughness that we needed to see. TOUGHNESS! Its why I am willing to give him a pass. Its why MV7 got a pass, for all the smack that we talked about him we could never question his toughness. With that said. If we get the same performance out of Foles and the secondary this week, and DALLAS takes first place, That is a mortal SIN, I will be calling for a major change!

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 8:47 am

Winning is everything. We have the best special teams in the league and against the Rams our defense finally stopped the bleeding in time to prevent a monumental collapse. When we see consistently bad offense and poor defense you have to question what will happen when the Eagles play better competition which starts witha hungry Giants team this week!

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 8:47 am

Winning is everything. We have the best special teams in the league and against the Rams our defense finally stopped the bleeding in time to prevent a monumental collapse. When we see consistently bad offense and poor defense you have to question what will happen when the Eagles play better competition which starts with a hungry Giants team this week!

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 8, 2014 9:02 am

‘better competition’– hmmm the colts and san fran were in playoffs last year and won some games. The redskins who many on here jumped ship to root for last year were now the best in the division…. ‘better competition’…love it!

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
October 8, 2014 9:18 am

Yeah, I was confused by that better competition comment too.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 8, 2014 9:19 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

It is ‘their’ way of somehow minimizing the wins and the contribution of all the players.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 2:41 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

There is no ‘minimizing’ the wins at all! Special Teams and the Defense have scored an incredible 7 of our 18 total touchdowns. Blocked Field Goals, blocked punts. However, this means that our vaunted Offensive Juggernaut is scoring a whopping 12.6 points per game! So lets give Dave Fipp the credit he deserves, lets give the defense credit for getting some timely turnovers. We are going to need a lot omore of that!!

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2014 12:12 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

‘better competition’… i just love that statement… when they play a good team you guys say ‘yeah but this guy was missing’ or ‘this call went their way’.. i call bull shit

zilents44
zilents44
October 8, 2014 9:37 am

here is a interesting stat eagles are 23 and 13 when kelce starts hurry back big guy. I am really starting to get pissed about chip wanting fletcher and cary to start he has got to try boyjin and carroll what could it hurt shit

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 8, 2014 9:42 am

Winning is what matters at the end of the game. However, it is not all that matters in relation to the “big picture”. After winning players and coaches walk away with things they could have done better. I’m happy the Eagles are 4-1.
We’ve been fortunate that the defense and special teams is scoring points.

But how long can we expect the defense to hold teams scoreless or minimum 10 points at half time, generate turnovers for points…There are wholes on the defense that will get exploited soon. Allowing 21 points in the 4th quarter is not a good sign. The Eagles won, but we should be concerned! What happens when the defense plays solid but doesn’t score any points?

Special teams is solid. But can we expect them to score points every game?

greenfan
greenfan
October 8, 2014 9:46 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

Good points RT. I say that being 4-1 and not having the offense clicking on all cylinders is actually a good thing, provided they can get this fixed and play more like last year.

zilents44
zilents44
October 8, 2014 9:57 am
Reply to  greenfan

2015 free agent targets justin houston,chris culliver, denaris searcy, jaball heard,jenoris jenkins, and buster skrine then draft oline corners and safeties

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 8, 2014 11:16 am
Reply to  zilents44

Z, I’ll pass on Buster Skrine.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 8, 2014 9:52 am

When you look at teams that have successful seasons you see when certain aspects carry the other parts. last year the offense carried the D… its the natural cycle of the season.

gmcliff
gmcliff
October 8, 2014 10:10 am

Nerlens Noel stinks………..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 8, 2014 10:41 am
Reply to  gmcliff

I didn’t see the game but the box score for nerlans was not good. The most disturbing thing is the technical foul for arguing with refs. First preseason game he fouls out and gets a technical arguing calls with the refs.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 8, 2014 2:10 pm

the kid didn’t argue with the refs…he made an emotional reaction to a call and got hit with a T…That kind of technical foul is BS, players can’t show emotion is nonsense.

DCar
DCar
October 9, 2014 12:23 am
Reply to  gmcliff

gmc, Lil Bron-Bron disagrees. LOL!!!! Makes me smile, when I’m right.

gmcliff
gmcliff
October 9, 2014 12:42 am
Reply to  DCar

Me too DCar, but I smile before it becomes extremely obvious…..Because I know they’re wrong.

If the Sixers really believe that this guy is going to be a fixture in their future, that is an indication of the horrible talent evaluation going forward.

So I worry about Saric, and future draft picks going forward; although I personally believe that Saric will be a good NBA Player, and a potential NBA All Star.

But I will repeat, as I have all summer – and that is
…….NERLENS NOEL STINKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
October 8, 2014 10:11 am

Few things…..

First, the Bears rode an opportunistic defense and great special teams all the way to the superbowl. The Ravens got there an won with an average defense and an offense/QB that got hot at the right time. The SeaHawks got there and won with an all-world defense and an average offense (with a QB that makes plays). Point is, there are multiple ways to have sucess in this league. Everyone points to Seattle as the formula to win a superbowl, but that discounts how many other teams have done it in the past….man we have short memories.

Second….we are playing inconsistent football on BOTH sides of the ball. The offense hasn’t been great, but is hasn’t been terrible either (i.e. leading the league in points????). The defense hasn’t been great and it hasn’t been terrible either. Our team is inconsistent. But here is the good news……SO IS THE REST OF THE LEAGUE. Show me which team is playing consistent football right now, especially in the NFC. The north and south are in shambles, Arizona is on to its 3rd QB, San Fran almost lost to us at home when we scored 0 offensive points, and Dallas needed Overtime to beat Houston. Every team has its problems and we are no different. The key is the stack as many wins as possible until you hit your stride in the second half of the year. That is exactly what we are doing.

People live in the here and now and I get that. But it is driving the fan base nuts. Look big picture once in a while and beyond our own football team and it should give everyone some solace.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 8, 2014 10:54 am
Reply to  Jeff Kolsky

you can only talk about the product that has been put out on the field this year…yes hopefully the offense picks it up…they will most definitely need to…but If the offense plays the same as it has thus far….but the defense falters in the 1st half, scores no points and the special teams doesn’t get in the end zone..winning becomes losing, that’s what will happen.

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 8, 2014 10:26 am

Winning is what matters at the end of the day Jeff. But see RT’s post for why it isn’t necessarily the only thing in regards to the larger picture.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 8, 2014 10:37 am
Reply to  coldbrewski

The ‘larger picture’ is this: lots of coaches break the season down into quarters, 4 games per quarter– quarter 1 we are 3-1 and quarter 2 we are 1-0. ‘larger picture’, the eagles offense hasn’t clicked for sure but when it does we have an opportunistic defense and good special teams… ‘larger picture’ NFC east is not the cakewalk that most of us thought… it is going to be a battle, its the nfl and everyone gets paid….

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 8, 2014 4:18 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I’m not sure what you were trying to make hac. Many of us have said this.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 8, 2014 4:32 pm
Reply to  coldbrewski

Merely pointing out that saying “they are 4-1 but look awful doing it ” is the exact opposite if the larger picture. The larger picture says it’s the nfll and 4 wins out of five games is excellent. There are no style points, there is no “they won but””” and all these sky is falling guys want to qualify every win… Right now they have been good enough to win, there are ups and downs in a season for every team… We are in good shape

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 8, 2014 10:55 am

season debut of the NHL — Flyers Bruins tonight — “coolest” game on earth.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 8, 2014 11:25 am

They can win games like this for the rest of the year and win the Super Bowl, so yeah winning is all that matters. Come on Jeff really??? And if the final score in the Super Bowl was 3-2, would we still get a parade down Broad St?

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 8, 2014 12:00 pm

Jeff ..what you aren’t addressing is the 600 pound elephant in the Linc..there is a coaching inconsistency ,that last year wasn’t as apparent ..clock management under AR..was often questioned ..Izzy has brought to the forefront ,that at times late in the San Fran game (and again ) in the Rams game ,we saw a lack of clock management ..why would you protect a lead ,commit ,to the run ,and snap the ball with precious tens of seconds left ? We rarely hear a mea culpa,from chip,but this has been repeated now ,and it must STOP..my ears are still ringing …I heard chip say ” the corners have to do a better job” God help me that’s scary hearing those words ..no shit ..they stink..the QB is fixable…ok then fix it..
This is all hyperbole ..we as fans understand you can put lipstick all over the last call girl at the end of the night ,but…..?I’d like see this team ,with a bye and no apparent distractions play 60 minutes of football …that speaks volumes ,because it means ,whatever the coach speak blah blah ,is resonating in the locker room..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 8, 2014 1:14 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

I was saying this during the game. 4th Q up by 22 and they were snapping the ball at 12 secs, 14 secs, even 15 and 20 secs!

They gave STL at least 2 mins by snapping the ball when they did. At least.

For me this was absolutely the worst aspect of last Sunday’s game. Worse than the fumbles, overthrows, bad oline play etc.

Why? Because it, unlike the other things, is entirely preventable.

When a play happens, bad things occasionally happen. We don’t like them, but we can understand that they aren’t always preventable.

But snapping the ball?????????

Do you know how to snap the ball at 2 secs….what has to be done?

NOTHING.

The O just has to stand there at the LOS. JUST STAND THERE AND THE GAME ENDS!!

Not even in their stance. Just stand there. Get in stance at 8 secs. Take a look. Snap at 2 secs.

Eagles ran 21 plays in the 4th…never letting the clock run below 10!! That’s 200 seconds handed to the Rams. The Eagles also took a timeout!!

I “get” the fast paced business….but when you’re up 3 tds in the 4th Q, you run it out.

Rhino
Rhino
October 8, 2014 4:30 pm

Totally agree with you on this. The defense played good..but we cant expect them to hold anybody when they sit down and by the time they take their helmets off they here ok defense lets hold them..and they are back out there.

up 34-7..do we really have to prove we can score again…no we dont..Show a all around game from the team…even if we are getting stopped we at least run out the clock. 1 first down without going out of bounce and you run out at least 3 min the least. Cmon Chip..this is the same stubborn attitude that reid showed..

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 8, 2014 12:08 pm

Last points ..when you have a four minute offense (fast paced) it doesn’t mean you have to stay the course ,the clock is at many times a greater opponent …Michael Irvin on inside the nfl ,just uttered maybe with the philadelphia eagles ,we are seeing that Cary williams questioning the practice habits ,have come home to roost ..shut the fuck up…

mhenski
mhenski
October 8, 2014 1:10 pm

yep winning is EVERYTHING no doubt about it except for those “fans” who curse the players when things go wrong, or say this team sucks when they are trailing, or say i quit this team because …

but to real fans yes winning is ALL that matters

paulman
paulman
October 8, 2014 1:13 pm

You guys crack me up…
Look around the NFL and 30 of the 32 Teams have been up and down this far this 2014 Season.. to be honest, with the lack of Physcal Drills and Practice time these Players now have in the Spring & Summer Camps, the first Month of the Regular Season is like how Pre-Season used to be…Now Players are getting their 60-70 snaps a game, Coach’s are scheming, match-ups,adjustments are made, Players returning from Injuries, New Players getting mixed into the fold, New Coach’s getting acclimated with each other and of course 8-10 Rookie or 1st Year Players playing in the NFL for the first time…
Look around the NFL
The Sky is Falling in Cincinnati since they got their butts whipped last Mon
The Sky was Falling in New England just Last Week
2 Weeks ago it was falling in Green Bay and New Orleans..
3 Weeks ago it was falling in San Francisco and NY Giants and Pittsburgh
4 Weeks ago the Colts started 0-2 and the Sky was Falling
There is no Sky at all in Oakland
Buffalo pulls their Starting/Franchise QB after 2-2 Start

Panthers,Chiefs,Bears, Lions, Vikings, Falcons, Bills are up 1 week and down the next Week …

And here Eagle Fans are Bitching that the Team is not playing well even though they are 4-1.. .

Guess what, It’s the NFL and this is how its going to be from now on with
these Rule Changes that limit physical contact for player safety in the Off-Season, More ridiculous Penalties being Called so now the Fundamentals of Football have just become more difficult to maintain..
Blocking,Tackling and Covering WR’s without having a Flag being thrown is now an art form and not Football as we used to know it…

I would say there are 3 Teams and Coach’s that are probably pretty happy about how their Teams are Playing so far in 2014 (Bronco’s, Cowboys & Texans)
The Seahawks Defense does not look as imposing as last Year and has given up big Plays to both the Chargers and Redskins
The Ravens/Steelers/Packers,49ers/Patriots/Bengals/Panthers have all had consistency issues on Offense and Defense…
Cardinals have health issues and are now down to Rookie QB Logan Thomas with both Palmer and Stanton out…

The Teams with the Best Coaching, Playmakers, Health and Breaks is going to compete for the Super Bowl

NY Jets HC Rex Ryan doesn’t know who to Start at QB and is continually apologizing to Jets Fans for having a untalented Team

Jaguars/Vikings have gone with the Young Rookie QB’s
TB Bucs have gone to Glennon

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 8, 2014 1:19 pm
Reply to  paulman

I will tell you this…I learned all I wanted from Cinci this weekend. Unable to match NE intensity (doubtful anyone could have) and watching Marvin Lewis (as per usual) just standing there emotionless with his arms crossed as the intensity ramps up. Is there anyone right now that looks more like a zombie than Lewis in a big game???

Is he even aware of what’s happening around him? I swwear the guy has a “breaker” in him that immediatly shunts off the moment the pressure rises.
I was all over the Pats Sunday night, and I’ll be all over whoever Cinici plays in round 1 of the playoffs (as usual). Marvin Lewis living dead look = $$$

paulman
paulman
October 8, 2014 4:43 pm

Coach Jim Caldwell of the Lions is more “Emotionless” than Marvin Lewis
The man is a Statue on the Sidelines..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 9, 2014 7:49 am
Reply to  paulman

And Reid forgetting he has good players on his team…Hello Jamal Charles….during an important close game…..so shocked.

Still, I think Lewis has the best emotionless statue pose in all of football. I honestly do not think he’s alive sometimes, let alone coaching the team.

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 8, 2014 4:22 pm
Reply to  paulman

Really? Then why were you predicting that the eagles would place worst than the giants and the cowboys in another thread? Do you just like looking at the number of post you make?

lewdoggie20
lewdoggie20
October 8, 2014 6:10 pm
Reply to  paulman

i agree with this rant.

Its a team game and 1 part picks up the team when 1 part is not perform its best. 4-1 and first in the league and people are talking this team sucks. drives me fucking nuts.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
October 8, 2014 1:18 pm

I dont care if they win by 1pt or 35pts Sunday.

5-1 is all I am worried about right now. Plenty of time to fix things if they can be fixed. 2-0 in the division with the rest of the games not coming to the end of the year this is a huge game.

My biggest worry going into the game is playing the middle of this defense with Ryans and Kendricks both out. If we see a ton of Acho and Matthews on the field we will get destroyed on crossing routes etc.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
October 8, 2014 1:24 pm

Foles has to show he is worth the committment long term. Right now he has put enough doubt out there to show he has to step up big time. This season is now tied to his development or lack their of.

He’s the hot button right now. Hes deserves to be. Not to the extent of the fool supporters and detractors on here but he deserves critique etc.

People jumping on McCoy need to get a clue. He still is the best player on the team and he can’t be replaced. All this nonsense outside of that is just that nonsense. Sproles is an AWESOME COMPLIMENT to McCoy. But he is just that…a compliment.

IMO only one of the two (Foles or McCoy) need to play well in order for us to stay contending for the playoffs. However to move in the playoffs Foles has to get his act together.

ALL BLACK EVERYTHING SUNDAY!!!!!!

IM HYPE!!!!!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 8, 2014 1:55 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Foles doesn’t have to prove anything — he gets his 20 million deal in Houston or here. Then the Eagles have to search the prisons for a Mike Vick or the trade market for an Alex Smith or Carson Palmer.

mhenski
mhenski
October 8, 2014 2:03 pm

hahaaaaaaa

i think mallet takes over in houston very soon. i think houston is a big time contender with that run game, o line and d.. they just need a serviceable qb. they gotta see what they got in mallet

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 2:43 pm

No one is going to give Foles 20 million…you gotta be kidding!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 8, 2014 3:11 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

4 QBs hit the Free Agency in 2016 ( Luck, Wilson, RG3 and Foles) Luck and Wilson get franchise top money which will be 30 million a year — leaving the top 15 QB in the NFL all getting a combined average of 20 million a year. The bottom 15 starting QB salaries will first contract rookie deals like Bortles, Bridgewater, Winston, Manuel, and Mariota. There is not in between.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2014 11:50 am

isn’t Bob at the same spot in his contract as foles??

gmcliff
gmcliff
October 11, 2014 5:09 pm

Neither Winston, nor Mariota will be an all pro…….guarantee it, just to prove to those who don’t know what they’re talking about when it comes to projecting some of the top rated college players coming into the NFL……

It’s never that obvious. Mel Kiper, and Todd McShay will hype them up the same, and they will be average athletes in the NFL….

paulman
paulman
October 8, 2014 3:20 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Depends how the Season goes KB…
If Foles leads the Eagles to the Playoffs and back to back NFC East Crowns, His Salary will certainly be in that $16-$20 Million Range for that what the Market is for the Top Dozen/Playoff Teams QB’s
(Examples Joe Flacco, Jay Cutler, Matt Ryan, Aaron Rodgers, Romo, Eli, etc,etc and new Deals signed by Kapernick, Alex Smith, A Dalton
and the impending new Deals that Russell Wilson, Cam Newton will get..)

Now if Foles plays poorly and the Eagles fail to make the Post-Season, then no, he will not get close to that $20 Million per Season Deal but if he leads the Eagles to a 2nd NFC East Crown in a Row and the Postseason and a Playoff Win, then he most likely will get a big Deal..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 8, 2014 3:51 pm
Reply to  paulman

there is no in between Paulman — QBs get the 20 million or they get replaced by a draft pick. The 17 million in 2014 becomes 20 million in 2016. Nick Foles gets 20 million in philly or houston. Philly will have to go draft pick again if they pass on giving Foles his 20 million and that means rebuild. ( Bye Bye Maclin, Bye Bye McCoy in the rebuild)

paulman
paulman
October 8, 2014 4:46 pm

They still have 1 More Year with Foles before they have to decide
He has 1 more Season on his Rookie Deal left, which they would have to increase it come next Season just the fact that he’s their Starters.. But they can get creative with him and load up incentives …

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2014 11:16 am
Reply to  paulman

Paul they are structuring QB contracts a bit differntly now so as not to be locked in as long. I think Kap, Smith and Dalton were the first of this new kind of contract that is almost a year to year thing I don’t know the full details but it doesn’t strap a team as bad if the young qb (not that smith is young) fizzles.

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2014 11:48 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Yes I agree HAC and expect the Eagles to follow a similar path
I am sure many Teams and QB’s will be looking at what happens with Cam Newton & the Panthers and how his Deal works out..
Cam Newton will be a Free-Agent after this Season and word is that Panthers are actively trying to sign him by November and get his Deal done before he ever would reach Free-Agency

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 3:09 pm

Excellent article at NFL.com by Bucky Brooks!!!
Philadelphia Eagles’ offense: What’s curbing Chip Kelly’s attack?
Bucky Brooks is an excellent football mind, experience in the NFL as a player, served as a scout and he broke down the coverages played against the Eagles
Here is clear facts about the last two games:
Defensive Coordinators have got Foles figured out:
“From a scouting perspective, defensive coordinators understand that Foles is a limited athlete without the speed, quickness or agility to threaten the edge as a runner. Thus, they are ignoring him on the zone-read and committing more defenders to attack LeSean McCoy in the run game. Against the pass, defensive play callers are using more blitzes, stunts and games to create penetration up the middle, leading to Foles throwing balls with defenders in his face. As a result, Foles is fading away on his throws and delivering floaters to his receivers over the middle. Although he has gotten away with many of his “toss-ups,” Foles’ willingness to throw the ball into traffic under duress has led to his bloated INT number this season (five already, as opposed to two during the entire 2013 campaign). With teams across the league watching Foles seemingly crack under pressure, more defensive play callers will turn up the heat to see if they can force the young quarterback into poor decisions from the pocket.”

Eagles Receivers Not beating Coverage:

Foles also has struggled with his accuracy and ball placement on deep throws. He repeatedly has been off the mark on vertical routes, preventing the Eagles from cashing in on some big-play opportunities. While Foles certainly deserves his fair share of criticism, the Eagles’ receiving corps hasn’t helped him much, failing to get significant separation downfield. Looking at the tape against the 49ers and Rams, I rarely saw a receiver win a one-on-one matchup on a vertical route. As a result, Foles is forced to fit the ball into tight windows, and 50-50 balls don’t always work in his favor.

Foles Inability to Run hurts the Running Game:
“Poring over the tape of the Eagles’ most recent games, I noticed defenses are committing more defenders to the box to slow down McCoy. Opposing coordinators are putting eight defenders near the line of scrimmage against the Eagles’ two-back/heavy formations and keeping at least seven defenders in the box against one-back sets. Without a legitimate running option at quarterback, the extra defender allows opponents to clog all of the lanes at the point of attack.”

The Eagles miss Desean Jackson Explosiveness in the Vertical Game!
“Without Jackson on the field to command the defense’s attention, opponents are committing more defenders to the box to stop McCoy and daring the Eagles’ receivers to win against man coverage. Now, I know Maclin is supposed to fill the void created by Jackson’s departure, but he is coming off an ACL injury and not nearly as explosive as his former teammate. Thus, defensive coordinators are willing to concede a few plays to him on the perimeter if they can neutralize McCoy on the ground.

Looking at the Coaches Film from the past two games, I’ve seen teams use more Cover 1 (man free) and Cover O (man without a deep safety) to suffocate the passing game”

Once again, Foles inabilities are hurting the Offense! He is turning the ball over at an alarming rate…8-count em’ 8 turnovers:

“Foles hasn’t played at a Pro Bowl level this season due to the new tactics opponents are throwing at him. From various pressures and blitzes designed to make him uncomfortable in the pocket to defensive backs aggressively jumping routes, the quarterback is facing constant harassment at every level. With these ultra-aggressive strategies resulting in an alarming turnover total from the Eagles QB (eight, including fumbles), opponents will continue to ratchet up the pressure until Foles performs better from the pocket.”

Thank God for the Special Teams which has bailed our asses out and helped us get to 4-1 despite poor performances from the QB! Its really a credit to the fine job they have done!

paulman
paulman
October 8, 2014 3:32 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

I enjoy reading Bucky Brooks who is spot on with most of his analysis about Football and the NFL in General
I don’t believe a single thing you listed though is new news, we already know this.. It’s up to Coach Kelly to change uyp the schemes don’t you think
We all know that Foles is not running away from most DE’s in the NFL let alone LB’s to the Edge.
We all know that the Eagles WR’s Corp’s does not have a legitimate “deep threat” for the Big Play and why Chip Kelly continues to run the deep routes is mind-boggling to me to be honest
Now the biggest thing is that most of us, including myself still expected the Eagles Rushing attack to be a Top #5 and it is nowhere close..
Sproles is getting yards in nice averages, LeSean McCoy is not…
I also think that most of us expected the Eagles TE’s to be more prominent and get more passes their way which maybe they have to stay in and block more due to OL Injuries

All the Comparisons to last year mean very little at this point since the Eagles are without 2-3 Top OL, No D-Jax and the Opponents all get paid too so nothing the Eagles do has prepared by DC’s around the Leauge
SO now what does Chip Kelly and Pat Shurmur do to counteract the adjustments made around the League and this is the Issue that we have to see play out… If Kelly does not change things around, maybe use a TE as a lead Back, Put Receivers in motion more, Run more Formations out of the Triplets, Utilize Double/Triple TE,s, Use a bigger back (Polk) more.. .
Bring another OT for an unbalanced Line of Scrimmage, etc,etc
then we can expect some of the same results as we have seen thus far in 2014… It’s about Game Planning and Execution and all the Eagles Players and Coach’s can and must do a better job..

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 4:07 pm
Reply to  paulman

I didn’t say anything was new here at all Paulman…It is exactly the same thing I have stated before the season started! I just wanted to bring a different voice to the table to show that I’m not simply bashing Foles…many football experts see the same thing! Foles is not good enough
As to Sproles running the ball…he hasn’t run the ball enough and he is a change of pace back….he has only had 25 carries in 5 games! 5 carries a games with 2 really big runs has boosted his average up a bit…cant compare him to Shady who is seeing 8 men in the box consistently. The adjustment Kelly should have made was to put in the I formation during training camp and Casey at fullback!
You cant run the read option effectively with slow ass Foles and eight men in the box and no Djax to stretch the field vertically!
The Eagles offensive line outside of Peters is basically a finesse style attack with the zone blocking style…we dont have an offensive line that’s going to physically impose their wills on a defense to run the stuff you are talking about.
Again, the loss of DJax and his vertical speed has impacted the running game and passing game. What has got to happen is Nick Foles is going to have to stand in the pocket and make some pinpoint, accurate throws to receivers who wont be wide open like last year. Back shoulder throws, pinpoint passes to receivers with one on one coverage in spots where only the receiver can catch the ball.
Nick Foles has got to get better….a lot better!!
Or Special Teams and the Defense have to keep scoring points!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 8, 2014 3:42 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

LOL, Bucky Brooks aggressively went after Chip Kelly and Nick Foles didn’t he. Bucky Brooks exposed himself as a poor scout to not identify the lose of Evan Mathis, Jason Kelce, Allen Barbre and Lane Johnson which is the number ONE reason for the problems in the Eagles offense this season.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 4:11 pm

Stop it! Bucky Brooks does not have a dog in this race. He did mention the O-line woes as it relates to the running game and how defensive coordinators are blitzing Foles up the middle to get in his face and he has been bailing out of there throwing the ball up for grabs.
The number ONE reason for the problems in the Eagles Offense this season is the poor play of the QB-Nick Foles. Defenses have figured him out!!

paulman
paulman
October 8, 2014 4:16 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

The #1 Problem of this Eagles Offense is the inability to have a Strong Running Game.. The Rest of the Eagles Offense is based off a Strong Running Game, without it, the Play-actions, Zone Reads simply don’t work
Also the lack of a Deep Threat help’s shorten the field for opposing Secondaries which we all know when they cut D-Jax..
The key to getting things on track is McCoy to run better, for Foles to get the Ball out quicker and use more intermediate horizontal passing routes and attack the middle more with TE’s as opposed to running the high volume of vertical passing routes they have been this Season..

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 8, 2014 5:00 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Glad you didn’t say “dog in this FIGHT “

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 9, 2014 6:41 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Or horse in this race. LOL

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 8, 2014 3:45 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Boy…I hope Chip reads this….something we have already figured out. Maybe Chip will listen to us on GCobb….spearheaded by songsiskoolbreeze 2. Chip will take immediate action.
Lol….wake me when he gets his kind of QB and bring Djax back.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 8, 2014 3:59 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

why because Bucky Brooks wrote an article neglecting to add David Molk, Matt Tobin and Andrew Gardner.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 4:16 pm

LOL….you guys are pathetic…Bucky Brooks is an objective observer. Why would he have a beef with Nick Foles? He is objective. He breaks down in detail showing the tape, pictures, a full analysis of what SF and the Rams did to us defensively.
We are 4-1…the defense and special teams have scored 7 out of the 18 touchdowns….lets hope we can keep that up and keep the pressure off of the QB to win games for us!

paulman
paulman
October 8, 2014 4:48 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Didn’t Brooks get let go from the Eagles as a Scout a few Years back??
Objective Reporting…..

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 4:57 pm
Reply to  paulman

So if he had such a hard on for the Eagles why did he praise their 2013 draft has the best in the NFC East…praising the Eagles for a job they let him go from? Yes…read the article…its very objective

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2014 12:05 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Because the rest of the NFC East had terrible Drafts in 2013
Look at them …

paulman
paulman
October 8, 2014 5:04 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

TMZ Reports that Nick Foles Wife some 3 Years ago, rejected a Date Offer from Bucky Brooks, Details at 11pm…

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
October 8, 2014 4:31 pm

One area where i believe brooks is incorrect is the recvrs not getting open. They have been getting open. They either drop balls (Cooper) or Nick just isn’t hitting them. Hopefully he pulls it together.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 8, 2014 4:50 pm
Reply to  coldbrewski

I agree with that Brewski, the plays have been there, I also believe even if DJax was here defenses would still deploy this strategy and take their chances with Foles not beating them over the top. It’s easier to take those chances this year without DJax so now it’s up to Kelly to make adjustments.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 5:00 pm
Reply to  coldbrewski

Look at the plays he cited for an example…on the interception Foles threw Maclin had no separation he ran a terrible route and couldnt get away from the defender. Bucky rightfully says there are a lot of plays where Eagles receivers dont get much separation….another reason why getting rid of Djax was a very bad move.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 8, 2014 5:35 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

That throw to Maclin was better than Romo’s OT throw to Bryant that hes getting so much praise for. That throw was behind and into great coverage, but Bryant went up and over the defender and got it. Its the way it goes.

If Cooper didn’t reach over his DB on the TD you’d complain about that too. Qbs throw up those balls all the time when they see single coverage.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 8, 2014 8:27 pm

It’s Dez Bryant. You don’t have to throw him a good ball. You just have to get the ball in his general vicinity. Romo knows that. Everyone knows that. Ask Flacco how much he misses Boldin.

Maclin ain’t either of those dudes. His throws NEED to be much better to Mac or they are gonna fall incomplete. Circus catch here or there aside.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 8, 2014 4:55 pm

It’s going to get ugly if the offense doesn’t show up Sunday night, I don’t think the Gianta are that good but I guess we’ll see. I know one thing with DRC and Prince at the corners the receivers will see a ton of man coverage and a Shady will see a crowded box.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 8, 2014 8:25 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

There’s a nice article on NFL.com that shows how our guys aren’t consistently beating man coverage (sound familiar) with, coupled with Foles inaccuracy down field means teams are all too happy to sit on the short routes taking away the screen game as well as well being able to contain Shady and Sproles.

When 3 of your first 5 teams are Jax, Skins and Rams it’s easy to get cocky. It will be interesting to see how the team holds up once the competition gets better.

zilents44
zilents44
October 8, 2014 8:32 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

welcome this is the all foles show tired act.

greenfan
greenfan
October 8, 2014 9:11 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Figured you would think that was a nice article. I sure you will be quoting it for weeks.

zilents44
zilents44
October 8, 2014 9:17 pm
Reply to  greenfan

lol u know she will

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 8, 2014 9:35 pm
Reply to  greenfan

lol

And no surprise you didn’t. God forbid someone says something negative about the team…notice it wasn’t a Bash Foles article, it talked about all aspects of issues.

I guess Greg Cossell was wrong too.

I mean EVERYONE is wrong unless they are The Ealges Are AWESOME!!!!!! All the time!!!!!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
October 9, 2014 7:56 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Or say something positive with fact behind then they have “green goggles” on

Lmao Hello Pot meet Kettle

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
October 8, 2014 10:07 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

They should be able to expose that LB corp Big. They are horrendous in pass coverage.

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 8, 2014 10:18 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I hope so Izell I’m hoping we can get Ertz and Celek back involved in the passing game.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
October 8, 2014 10:23 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Ertz is a victim of the line problems as well. We are using 2 TE sets to block quite a bit.

This is a game where Matthews and Sproles could shine.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 5:07 pm

There is not a lot Kelly can do…a trick play here or there but the bottom line is Foles is going to have to get a lot more accurate with his passing, a lot sharper, throwing with more anticipation and timing. Getting better with pre-snap reads to anticipate better where to go with the ball, reading the defense and throwing to spots in tight windows..this is what Kelly had to bank on in getting rid of DJax and going with bigger receivers. He knows that Foles cant run the read option…he had to been counting on Foles improving from last year and making more plays with his arm. He couldn’t have seen the 8 turnovers and poor play coming.
Foles better be sharp against the Giants….he has to know that they will do what SF and the Rams did…attack the middle tight coverage, and 8 men in the box to stop Shady. He will have to make them pay with some accurate passes

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 8, 2014 5:37 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Tight windows!

Didn’t you just say up above that all Foles has is tight windows. Its what he’s been doing all year, or don;t you forget the Matthews TD, the Cooper TD drop vs SF, the 2 sideline bullets to Maclin, several tosses to Ertz etc etc.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 6:25 pm

I have said a few things…Foles has not been accurate and precise with his throws. He hasn’t done what he needs to do to take our offense to the next level. You cant cry about the drops when you supported getting rid of the best WR on the team! Stop whining about the drops! He has overthrown, underthrown, balls to wide open receivers too! Where is your list of receivers who did get open but Foles failed to get the receiver the ball! It come with the territory. Foles has had adequate protection to make throws….the line has given up some pressure but not a lot of sacks. Foles has to make plays. The defense and special teams got us 4 wins with an astounding 7 touchdowns in 5 games! Amazing…its Foles and the offensive turn to carry some weight and Foles has to stop turning the ball over. 8 damm turnovers in just 5 days is terrible!!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 8, 2014 5:46 pm

Tight Windows! Tough throws!

Foles has 2 issues right now:

1 – throwing deep balls too early leading to overthrows.

2 – Dropping backwards and lofting balls off back foot due to pressure up the middle.

Problem 1 will work itself out as he gets more and more comfortable with his WRs that he didn’t practice with all spring.

Problem 2 will work itself out as soon as the up the middle jailbreaks calm down a bit.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 6:36 pm

Stop it!! You are kidding!

2 issues!

How about stop turning the ball over! Foles is responsible for 8 turnovers…that is simply unacceptable!
Missing wide open receivers when he has time to throw the ball. Foles has been rattled Does he need glasses or something…He had the same problem last year in the playoffs when film showed Djax running wide open for first downs and big plays but Foles didn’t see him? Big reason we didn’t take advantage of early turnovers from defense!

The only way for the Problems to work out is for Foles to play better that’s the bottom line…he has enough time in the pocket to throw the ball..he needs to handle the pressure, start reading the defense and making some throws with good anticipation and touch…instead of stumbling around and throwing the ball up for grabs at the first sign of a little pressure.

Stevo
Stevo
October 9, 2014 10:49 am

He’s captain patience now… Oh Vinnie.. So predictable.

greenfan
greenfan
October 9, 2014 11:31 am
Reply to  Stevo

I get that you are just throwing some hate at Vinnie, but why would you not want to show some patience with a young QB who has a win/loss record of 12-4 last season and this one (including the playoff loss), has a 96 QBR overall, 6000 yards passing, 41 TD / 12 INT ratio and a 61% completion rate?

I agree that he has not been playing at the high levels we watched last year, but why would you not show patience with him? As opposed to a 12 year veteran with a history and track record, which is who I suppose you are trying to make your statement that we should have been more patient with? Makes no sense Stevo, but I guess if you were only going for a cheap putdown you have many on here that will laugh with you. But patience with this QB is really not such a bad idea.

Stevo
Stevo
October 9, 2014 11:37 pm
Reply to  greenfan

Not about foles. It’s about vinnie. Foles is fine.. Will be fine.

greenfan
greenfan
October 10, 2014 8:18 am
Reply to  Stevo

What position does Vinnie play? Lol

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 10, 2014 8:10 am
Reply to  greenfan

Bingo.

jakedog
jakedog
October 8, 2014 6:33 pm

I’m koolbreeze! Foles Stinks! He needs to be more accurate!

Didn’t I Tell You Foles stinks for the thousandth time!

Gtfo you knucklehead, get some new material!

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 6:41 pm
Reply to  jakedog

jerkdog there is no need for new material…its the same thing you guys always whined about….the QB! So now you tired of it when it comes to Foles….hypocrites! …I’m one of the only guys here to give up props for the reason we are 4-1. You guys have neglected the Special Teams with your weak-ass need to defend Foles.
Beat it jerk!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 8, 2014 7:31 pm
Reply to  jakedog

LOL….it’s called OCD….perhaps a fetish, Foles Fetish! I am wondering when Foles fatigue will set in.Koolbreeze Goes to sleep thinking about Foles….wakes up thinking about Foles. Making love to his woman…..thinking about Foles!

greenfan
greenfan
October 8, 2014 9:05 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

LOL….hahahahahahahahaah….you got that right EHL.

This is Giants week and reading all of these posts I doubt that anyone even knows that on this site. All of this Foles talk you would never know that there is a pretty good likelihood that both starting linebackers will not be playing this week….but you wouldn’t know that on hear.

OCD…too funny.

jakedog
jakedog
October 8, 2014 6:39 pm

Man I have been behaving myself lately but after reading some of this shit lately might just have to see my psychiatrist, Dr. James Beam

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 6:43 pm
Reply to  jakedog

Yup! LMAO…I always understood that’s why your damm posts makes no sense…you spend waaaay too much time with Jim Beam-drunk ass!

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 8, 2014 7:24 pm
Reply to  jakedog

LOL please Jake I’m not gonna lie I miss the old Jake but please don’t visit Dr. Beam

greenfan
greenfan
October 8, 2014 9:07 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Biggy I know what you mean but Dr Beam is trouble Jake.

jakedog
jakedog
October 8, 2014 8:51 pm

Haha big lion, there may be no other way to contain myself until and unless foles and shady start playing

pheags88
pheags88
October 8, 2014 9:21 pm

Nothing changes around here. I actually envy that some of you can spend everyday bitching constantly about the eagles. I assume most of you have to be retired or else EBT cards must buy people computers these days. Regardless, all I heard before the season started was how hard the Eagles schedule was. I mean you had people on here telling us Jax defense was gonna basically stomp us under Bradley (how is his record btw?)….clowns saying the redskins were going to take the division this year…best front 7 in football and best WR of all time Djax rmbr? All that hype has got them what like 1 win? Rmrb some picked St louis to surprise ppl with all thus top picks on their D…they were so loaded on D that they couldnt keep the gay guy…Then you got 2 of the top teams in the league last year in Colts/SF (who will still make the playoffs this year).

Our O line is decimated (cant even run a damn screen with Kelly/Tobin/Gardner), young QB is struggling (which 99% of them do), Shady looks like shit while Sproles seems to be doing just fine when he touches the ball, defense giving up yards and points to nobodys/Cary and Brad cant play the football in the air for shit when they are in position (which is rare)…After all that we have one of the best records in the league right now…let that hit some of you in the face. Hell before the season most of us would have been very happy with 4-2 at the bye if everything was actually going well. But we have a shot to be 5-1 this sunday..thats unbelievable considering everything that has happened this year.

Foles/Shady had played like shit this year. Foles is costing himself millions and Shady might lose out on millions. However, ppl need to relax cause last time I checked Foles isnt making 20 million right now…if he doesnt bounce back then he wont be the future of this team, its that simple. If Shady doesnt pick his game up (again Sproles seems to be doing fine when he touches the ball) he wont see all those millions on his deal.

Fact is nobody expected the Eagles to win the Superbowl this year. Chip has being doing great turning this team around from the slop it was 3-4 years ago. It takes time to turn that shit of a team into something good. Best case scenario this year was win the division and win a playoff game which hasnt happened in years. Still on track for that

pheags88
pheags88
October 8, 2014 9:34 pm

Btw the guy that basically said Chip should be fired must be actually retarded or a Cowboys/Giants/Redskins fan. Chip should have been coach of the year last year. If he was fired every team in the league (except maybe the Pats) would seriously consider firing their guy on their spot to bring him in. This team was a pile of shit when he took over. He is turning the Eagles into a winner. But hey some people need our wins to be pretty. I guess those count more when the league looks at the records for the playoffs. My guess is some of these dudes just want the Eagles to lose. Just dont get why some people feed these trolls. I bet the only time that have seen Philly is on google. And I thought some of these guys were posting on Falcons boards years ago and now their Eagles fans all of sudden. Fuck these clowns

zilents44
zilents44
October 8, 2014 9:53 pm
Reply to  pheags88

my sister workd two jobs and still gets food stamps thatz a low blow its tough out here u should probally do some research before u assume

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
October 8, 2014 10:05 pm

Lol if they beat the Giants Sunday some you fools won’t know what do with yourselves in the negativity department.

Now Bucky Brooks is gospel because he agrees with your agenda. Lmao

4-1

Stfu already. Critique is fine…repeating the same shit over and over is pure nonsense.

You dumbasses do know that Bucky Brooks said Matt Barkley is the next Tom Brady and will the franchise QB. That he was a Vick guy?

Lol MATT BARKLEY

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 8, 2014 11:48 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Toasty you are a funny ass clown! Ignorant as hell…but real funny! There are true Eagle fans here who love that the team is 4-1. I’m going to say the same shit again…Fool…We got the best special teams in the league and we should be really happy about that!
Fools like you dont tell us what was wrong with what Bucky Brooks said in his article….you pull out something that he said about the third string QB to discredit him ….despite the fact that there were a few other people who liked Barkley too..including the Coach! You say it like you have perfect record on predicting players…everyone makes a bad call….only Fools like you
Fools like you keep dragging up Mike Vick in your postings too! Your out of ammo Izzell, your toast, finished and washed up…Gather up your lame ass crew and go to some other forum and talk about knitting or fishing or anything else…ya’ll dont know jack about football!

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
October 9, 2014 7:32 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Lmao
You been talking out your ass and flip flopping no one cares about your opinion.

You and the other clowns on here who post the same shit over and over and over and over are getting tuned out so you’re new approach is to say something positive so you don’t look like a fool then sandwich in your dumbass rants and posts.

Fact is that you don’t understand football outside of 700 level Fandom.

The consensus on here is that Foles is struggling and had to play better. And is fucking killing you and the other dummies who say the shit and don’t want him as Qb.

Lol so at 4-1 is killing you.

Bucky Brooks is a talking head with an opinion and agenda. I can find numerous articles going the opposite way and you would do the same shit.

Stfu already. You and the rest of your chicken Littles have been saying the sky is falling for over a year now.

Now Chip Kelly is your dude blah blah blah lol hypocrites.

skayne
skayne
October 9, 2014 12:11 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

It’s amazing how many people have an agenda, hating Nick Foles, secretly wishing ill on him. Now it’s Bucky Brooks? People here on

skayne
skayne
October 9, 2014 12:18 pm
Reply to  skayne

gcobb are pretty paranoid. It could be an agenda driven plot. But seeing how Foles’ struggles are being discussed on other Eagle blogs, in print, tv, radio, maybe it’s just paranoia.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2014 12:30 pm
Reply to  skayne

nobody said ‘secretly wishing”

Muimuiman
Muimuiman
October 8, 2014 10:23 pm

The Ron Mexicos are the complainers on this website

jakedog
jakedog
October 8, 2014 10:38 pm

Pheags, I agree with most of your substance, but to attack fans for their passion, time spent here, you are our of line

Every eagles fans should express their sentiments

I don’t agree with a lot of the posts here, but I think it’s positive to hear everyone out, especially divergent views

I have been jostling with songs for years now

I do not agree with him, but I respect his perspective

You need to appreciate others here, they may be wrong, they may be right

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
October 8, 2014 11:43 pm

If Acho and Matthews are starting…..Foles better get it together….you can not be bad up the middle vs a west coast offense.

daggolden
daggolden
October 9, 2014 6:07 am

Brandon Graham continues to be the Eagles best defensive player despite only playing 35% of the snaps. He finished the game with 4 hurries, a forced fumble and 4 tackles in the 20 plus plays he was on the field. The week before he posted similar numbers with a sack on his 20 plays yet Billy Davis cant seem to find more playing time than 20 snaps of a total of 150 that both OLB combined play in a game. There is no reason Barwin, Cole and Graham shouldn’t be splitting 50 snaps a piece during a game. BD refuses to do it. Then I watch the Flowers(from SD) and Joe Haydens of the world who are 5 10 playing at a high level on the field and Billy Davis refuses to play Boykins more than 15 snaps a game. How many more yards could Boykin give up vs CW and BF?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 9, 2014 8:19 am
Reply to  daggolden

Graham’s play has been very good thus far considering the amount of snaps he has received. Sometimes it takes time for players to get acclimated to the NFL, especially id roles change and injury slows you down. I always liked Graham from his Michigan days. He has been used improperly at times during his time as an Eagle. Glad to see he is contributing.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
October 9, 2014 7:49 am

Cole and Graham are interchangeable and whoever plays better will play more from here on out. Barwin is better than both of them and playing great this year.

The only thing I can think of the CB situation is the Domino effect moving Boykins up. However even with that I think the writing is on the wall with them. As long as they are winning they can hold off drastic change. If they are the reason for multiple losses one will be gone.

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2014 9:33 am

catching up on thechipwagon website and after reading one article i come away thinking cooper was absolutely putrid and blowing blocking assignments against the rams… and lane johnson was just destroying people

greenfan
greenfan
October 9, 2014 9:46 am
Reply to  mhenski

Chipwagon is a great site.

He has a good breakdown of our screen game. I had been wondering if the league had just caught on to Chip’s screens or if the injuries to the OL had caused them to be much less effective. Hopefully we will see them start using Sproles in the screen game, or at least start getting him the ball more in space. He is such a weapon and if we can get him the ball in the right place he can break them as we have all seen.

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2014 9:55 am
Reply to  greenfan

just got through a few more articles and based off what i am reading there it seems the problems with the screen game and running game are

1. mccoy not hitting the holes
2. O line making the right blocks but not finishing blocks

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2014 10:56 am
Reply to  greenfan

With 2-3 Inexperienced playing OL, the Screen Game Suffers,
When your can’t Run the Ball effectively, the Screen Game is also less effective..

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2014 11:03 am
Reply to  paulman

QB Foles also has to do a better job of selling the “Screen Play” for he has a tendancy to look to pass too quickly and not allow the OL to get out in unison..

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2014 9:58 am

jordan matthews snap count has been going up but im thinking he needs to split wr2 duties with cooper and see if he can emerge… he looks like a man among boys out there every time i see him, giving 100% effort every play…

lets see what the guy has… he is big strong and smart

cooper is a scrub

greenfan
greenfan
October 9, 2014 12:39 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Matthews works his ass off. I hope that his work ethic is contagious. IMO Cooper has been a disappointment since he was signed. He is a big body receiver who plays small. I hope he turns it on like last year, but outside of a handful of games last year we have a very small number of really good games from him. I do not like Cooper and the sooner Matthews can step up the better as far as I am concerned.

Stevo
Stevo
October 9, 2014 10:51 am

Winning is everything… No doubt. Crossing routes a must…. Foles has struggled with deep throws and chip needs to stop calling them all day. Get the passing short passing game early to set up the run game to set up those pop passes grades loves so much.

Stevo
Stevo
October 9, 2014 10:52 am

*gruden

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2014 11:09 am

EAGLES SMASH THE GMEN BY DOUBLE DIGITS SUNDAY NIGHT

invinoveritus
invinoveritus
October 9, 2014 12:10 pm

Couple of thoughts –

Why is Sproles having success int he run game and Shady not? – read an article that stated when Sproles is on the field – the D assumes pass and drops the extra man out of the box – is you remember this is what New England did in the 2nd half of our super bowl loss – they focused on Trotter – whenthey put packages ont he field where Trotter came out – they ran, when they put run packages on the field – and Trotter was out there – they passed – teams are trying to match Sproles in the passing game –

how do you exploit that? Run more with Sproles n the field? Have McCoy and Sproles on the field and have Sproles split out?

I do think having to help the O Line with blocking is killing Ertz – not being able to match 5 blockers on 5 and having a smallish center (did you see the picture of all the O Line together last week – Molk is small compared to the other OLmen)

Red Zone – is it me or does anyone else notice the pattern of pass on first down (short outside to a WR) run on second, complicated pass route that takes time to develop and dump off to a check down on third, complicated pass route on 4rth (or kick FG) How about Chris Polk straight ahead 3 times (hamstring I know)

The team (screen game and wide zone blocks) really miss the athletisism of Mathis and Kelce –

Foles is sturggling right now – but at times he has made some perfect throws (Cooper owns two fo those drops – it was nice to see him go up and get one this week) but take a look at where we were last year at this time – and where we are this year – most before the season had us a 4-2 or 3-3 at the bye – COlts and 49ers on the road – so in reality we are playing with house money… Foles struggled in a couple of early games last year and then caught fire –

greenfan
greenfan
October 9, 2014 12:34 pm
Reply to  invinoveritus

All good points. The more we can put Sproles and Shady on the field at the same time the better. As far as this game goes, if Ryan’s and Kendrick’s are both out I am concerned. We need someone to cover that big TE and regardless of Jennings being out, they will try and run with Ryan’s out.

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2014 12:14 pm

The Giants will miss RB Rashad Jennings big time, Eagles need to capitalize and come after Eli early and often and get him moving off his Spot.. Blitzing up the Middle will be critical and creating a Push to get Eli moving to his left especially…
The Giants TE’s have been a nice surprise for them in the Combo of Donnell & Fells…. Also the big Wildcard is 1st Round Draft Pick in WR Beckham Jr who played in his first NFL Game last Week… How will he be utilized, a couple of Reverses, Bubble routes to get him going ?
A WR Trio of Cruz, Rueben Randle with Beckham gives the Giants some Weapons on the outside that concerns me … the TE’s in the Middle and
then Rookie RB A Williams and Peyton Hillis to run the Ball..

Eagles Defense is going to have to play their Best Game of the Season

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2014 12:29 pm
Reply to  paulman

every team is missing key guys ‘big time’– the eagles shoddy D without kendricks or ryans???yikes…that to me is scary!

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2014 12:42 pm
Reply to  paulman

blitzing eli would be a mistake. he is releasing the ball very fast this year. under 2.5 seconds last week. blitzing him early and often would not be the appropriate game plan this week

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 9, 2014 12:48 pm

Man just read Smallwoods article comparing Kelly to Hinkie and Kelly saying he’s here to win right now. Well what da heck did you draft Marcus Smith for. LOL

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2014 2:51 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Big that goes to show how different the two leagues are. The nba is a shitty league where the talent level is so spread out it is impossible to go from worst to first. In the nfl it truly is any given Sunday. Talent is so close it always comes down to the end…

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2014 4:38 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

2 entirely different Sports where 1 to 2 Talented Players can make a huge difference… Football is much more Coach and Scheme & Unit Driven Sport where you need most of the 11 Players on the same page for any Play to be successful most of the time…

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 9, 2014 6:02 pm
Reply to  paulman

Really when did they stop playing basketball with helmets? No shit it’s 2 different sports. Geez

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 9, 2014 6:30 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

LOL

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
October 9, 2014 1:20 pm

Big did you see Mayocks comparison of Smith to Timmons coming out of FSU.

They needed to trade up for anything of impact in this year’s draft defensively. Kyle Fuller or CJ Mosley would have been nice.

Thank goodness they didn’t listen to the fans and go safety

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2014 1:36 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Anyone see Chargers RB Oliver put his head down and run over Jets Safety Calvin Pryor at the 2 Yard line last week as he finished off a TD Run

The Best Louisville Cardinals Defender from last Years Draft was ILB Preston Brown who is kicking ass for the Bills and replaced the Injured Kiko Alonso… Maybve the Eagles will trade RB McCoy to the Bills for CJ Spiller and former Oregon Duck ILB Kiko Alonso… You heard it hear… Ha

gmcliff
gmcliff
October 11, 2014 5:14 pm
Reply to  paulman

SMH……PRESTON BROWN ISN’T DOING ANYTHING CLOSE TO KICKING ASS…..

He’s another one of your average draft picks,- THAT YOU LIKED – who will go back to the bench when Kiko Alonso , and Nigel Bradham come back….

LOL!! Stop it…..

paulman
paulman
October 11, 2014 9:30 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Hey GM Cliff,
Hope all is going well for you and that your feeling better..
Re LB Preston Brown is the leading Tackler for the Bills
With 43 Tackles, which Ranks 12th Total in the NFL (tied with Bobby Wagner) and the Bills have the 13th Rated Defense in the NFL as well..
So as usual, you appear never to be able give any player their Due that wasn’t your guy… Why can’t you ever just say, Yes , so & so,
That Player you mentioned is pretty good and Productive…
Same old shit with you my friend…

gmcliff
gmcliff
October 11, 2014 10:44 pm
Reply to  paulman

I do to Paul; Maybe not everybody, because they’re probably still trying to find their way,… but …..some…LOL!!!

paulman
paulman
October 12, 2014 10:02 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Then how can you honestly say that Preston Brown, who was
A 3rd/4th Round Pick and a Rookie , who replaced last years Def ROY Kiko Alonso Due to injury and is leading his Team in Tackles for an improved Bills Defense …
Just because he wasn’t on your “list”…
Give the kid some Credit, he’s playing very well as was one of the few ILB I really liked in last years Draft…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 12, 2014 12:28 pm
Reply to  paulman

I haven’t seen _Preston Brown play for Buffalo but his tackle stat production almost double that of Jamie Collins this year so far. 43 tackles for Brown vs 22 for Collins. Preston is young too, only 21 years old. Unfortunately Buffalo is never the feature Monday, Thursday or Sunday night game to pay attention to them.

paulman
paulman
October 12, 2014 1:37 pm
Reply to  paulman

Preston Brown is a ILB and about 6-1″
245lbs, he’s quick, tough and solid tackler
He reminds me a little of a young Jon Beason/Patrick Willis

Brown has 43 Tackles for the Bills
D Ryans has 32 Tackles which leads the Eagles
Typically a ILB/MLB will lead their Teams in Tackles
Since they play in the middle which gives them more opportunities
To make Plays and Tackles as opposed to a OLB who are responsible for their side of the field, set the edge, cover backs out on passes, etc

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 9, 2014 2:41 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Mosley would fit in real nice with the injuries we’re having and the only safety playing worth anything is Deone Buchanon who I would have drafted before Smith. Yes Izell I saw it wondering why he would compare them, Timmons never ever shied away from contact.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 9, 2014 4:28 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

I wasn’t impressed with the Rams safety Lemarcus Joyner ( who was drafted early before Jordan Matthews) , He let Maclin run right by him for an easy unguarded touchdown. The play before he let Jordan Matthews run right by him too but Foles one hopped the ball to him. If Greg Robinson the number 2 overall selection in the draft can’t crack that OL in St Louis he must stink because the Birds destroyed that OL Sunday. Aaron Donald at DT was played alright, he seemed to play a role like Vinny Curry does for the birds.

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2014 4:51 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Mosley is a Stud and will be 8-10 Year Highly Productive and Pro-Bowl Type of Player.. I bet about half the Teams that passed on him wished they Drafted him..
Deonne Buchannon is the Best Overall Safety from last Years Draft thru the early part of the Season, very sound tackler, fast to the ball and has a knack of being in the right postions, he actually reminds me a lot of a young Brian Dawkins …. Ha HA Clinton Dix, Calvin Pryor and Jimmie Ward have not shown me much in their Rookie Seasons so far

On Rams LeMarcus Joyner, they have him miscast as a Safety and it appears to be better suited as a Slot/Nickel Back but I think Rams have injuries on their back end forcing him to be out on the field before he’s ready…

On a Side Note,
Eagles added another Safety (Jordan Kovacs) to the Practice Squad which tells me they have little confidence in Earl Wolff as competing as a Starter moving forward… They also have Summer Camp Player Keelan Johnson… I expect a Roster Move here in the next couple of Weeks…

tua14768
tua14768
October 9, 2014 3:21 pm

Winning is the only thing. The Eagles are 4-1 not 1-4 or 0-5 or 3-2 (like the Giants). We have our issues just like every team in this league. No one team right now stands hands and feet above everyone else.

Additionally, I would like the Eagles to commit to more traditional running attack between the tackles. I think this would bring more consistency to the running game.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 9, 2014 8:13 pm
Reply to  tua14768

I would like to see that too but we cant. We have a finesse offensive line with the zone blocking scheme that relies more on movement and angles rather than firing straight out and overpowering defensive linemen and linebackers. We are giving up penetration and Shady too often has to duck and dodge before he gets a chance to turn it up field. We need to stop the penetration and hit some deep balls over 20 yards to get them out of the 8 man fronts.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 9, 2014 4:41 pm

any positive news on Ryans and Kendricks for Sunday night?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 9, 2014 4:52 pm

Ryans is playing. Kendricks is out again.

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2014 4:55 pm

DeMeco Ryans Practiced today in limited drills but he should be a go for Sunday Game

Both RB Chris Polk and LB Kendricks Did not Practice at all which is not a good Sign that either will play..

Casey Matthews had a Strong Practice per Sources..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 9, 2014 7:16 pm

puck dropped Home opener, Go Flyers!

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2014 7:24 pm

It’s ridiculous that the NHL starts this early..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 9, 2014 7:34 pm

Georgia running back suspended indefinitely by NCAA for rules violation. Too bad the NFL team are sure to be mad that he isn’t taking more hits on his body before the draft. LOL
Adrian Peterson smoking a little weed, don’t worry about that judge. BWAHAHAHAHAHA