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Eagles Safety Walter Thurmond Wants To Come Back, But……..

WaltherThurmond1Eagles safety Walter Thurmond said he would love to return to the Birds secondary next season, but the fact that the Eagles are only $18 million dollars under the salary cap, makes his return to Philadelphia unlikely.   He said the NFL is a business and many times the business part of the game dictates what happens from year to year.

Eagles defensive end Cedric Thornton, who was walking by when I was talking about Thurmond moving on,  said, “The Eagles would crazy to let Thurmond walk” and I agree with him.  Personally, I think Thurmond will be back because the cap is expected to go up considerably during the off season.

Safeties who can make open field tackles, as well as walk up a wide receiver and cover him are an unusual item in the NFL.  The Eagles have two of them in Thurmond and Malcolm Jenkins, who I think should have been a Pro Bowler this season.

Thurmond feels like he showed the NFL coaches and fans that he can play safety on the NFL level.  The former Oregon Duck wasn’t pleased about the way he covered in man-to-man situations when the Birds asked him to walk up on a receiver and lock him down. Thurmond said his technique was lacking.

I had to give rookie Eric Rowe a congratulatory hand shake because I thought he played well when he got his shot this season.  I loved the way he played aggressively rather than playing scared on the corner.  I see potential in the young man.

At the Eagles safety position, Ed Reynolds turned some heads with that big game-clinching interception against the Bills.  He has showed quite a bit of promise going forward.  Jenkins was very impressed with Reynolds and expects great things from him going forward.

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paulman
paulman
January 4, 2016 3:41 pm

The 2015 Salary Cap was $143 Million
Owners were told earlier in December that the 2016 Salary Cap expects to Increase to to the $152 to $153 Million Range

Teams in Bad Salary Cap Situation
Dolphins $5 Million Over
Saints $4 Million Over
Bills are $18,000 Over

Teams with Great Cap Space
Raiders have $72 Million Available
Bears have $60 Million Available
TB Bucs have $52 Million Available
Jagaurs have $45 Million Available
49ers have $40 Million Available

***EAGLES have Approx $22 Million Available*****

Stats were Reported by NBC Sports & Spotrac

jbird
jbird
January 4, 2016 3:47 pm
Reply to  paulman

How much would releasing Peters, Demeco, Celek and Cooper give us to play with? Also Thornton will be out. 80% chance we are going 4-3 and he is a 3-4 DE. He didn’t start out that way but that’s actually his ideal fit.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 4, 2016 10:34 pm
Reply to  jbird

Only problem is Peters, Sanchez, and Celek aren’t going anywhere, so that savings won’t be coming from them.

Cooper is gone, as is Ryans, and any other menial upcoming free agents.

Plus the cap does go up a little.

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2016 11:19 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Celek,Sproles, and M Jenkins may all be asked to rework their Contracts
They have Approx $131 in Committed Contracts in 2016
The Salary Cap is expected to Rise to $153 Million leaving the Eagles Approx
$22 Million under the Cap
The Eagles have 12 Current Free-Agents
They will have 6-7-8 Draft Picks to Sign as well an Undrafted Free-Agents

The Eagles will not be big players in Free-Agency and will have to address most of their team needs thru the Draft

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
January 4, 2016 3:57 pm
Reply to  paulman

Eagles not in great cap situation but not all that bad either. If they really wanted to, they could have Curry, Thurmond, extend Cox, and maybe even Bradford.

They are 22 mil under the projected cap with the following likely cuts:
Celek – 5 mil savings
Sanchez – 3.5 Mil savings
Cooper – 2.9 Mil Savings
Meco – 3.5 Mil savings
Peters – 6.3 Mil savings
Total – 21.2 savings in cuts.

Curry will probably take 5-7 mil to resign, Cox will need another 8 mil (already counts as 7 mil on next years cap so total number in the 15 range), Thurmond will need 5 mil, and Bradford 18. It would be tight but possible if they want them all.

Personally, I think Bradford completely depends on who the coach is. If it is a rookie head coach there is no way they are signing Bradford. You just don’t handcuff a rookie head coach with an 18 mil QB. Now, if they get Payton or some ex-head coach, I could see them signing Bradford, moving the D to a 4-3 and trying to compete next year.

If they get a guy like Gase or McDermout then they will likely let Bradford walk and stay well below the cap for future moves while drafting a QB and signing a Journeyman QB to bridge the gap.

Honestly, I would be fine either way.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 4, 2016 4:41 pm

Here are the people the Eagles should prioritize in resigning

1. Bradford-whatever takes.We have to resign Bradford and provide stability at the QB position. We cant lose him and go into ‘hope we can find one from somewhere mode’…losing Bradford would set the team back tremendously.

2. Extend Cox..no brainer here

3. Get a new deal for Curry: this of course means going to the 4-3 defense

4 Resign Thurmond-we got pretty good safety play

mhenski
mhenski
January 4, 2016 5:01 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

yea great idea. whatever it takes to resign 1 of the worst starting qbs in the nfl… brilliant!

lmfao blaine gabbert did better this year than this looooozah as did other losers like fitpatrick (haaaaaa), tannehill and hoyer.

tyrod, cutler, and josh mccown are a few others that outperformed him… he is worse then them all.

imo the only options are franchise him – just to be 10000000000% certain he is a steamy pile of feces. but thats outrageous to give him $ like that

or let him walk.

in all honesty i think its almost guaranteed they let him walk. after getting burned on bad deals with murray and maxwell i just dont think they are gonna gamble with another big contract with a player they hope magically becomes good after being shit for years…

ps those sanchez, brandon graham, and kendricks deals look a little ridiculous too

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
January 4, 2016 10:05 pm

If you do not bring Bradford back then we must be prepared to do the following.

Trade Fletcher Cox, let Curry and other FA walk. Cut Peters, Celek, and cut or trade any player not under contract for at least 3 years

mhenski
mhenski
January 4, 2016 10:23 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

Lmfao you sound scared. Sam brings that much to the team in ur opinion that ur saying if we are not resigning him- a bottom 10 qb every year he plays with a losing record – then we might as well blow it up?

Cmon man don’t be scared you aren’t losing anything if you let him walk Ryan Fitzpatrick josh mccown & Blaine gabbert outperformed him this year and 2 of the 3 were on worse teams

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
January 4, 2016 11:56 pm
Reply to  mhenski

You miss the point. Nothing matters without a franchise guy. If you are no on Bradford it is along rebuild

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2016 9:46 am
Reply to  RegalEagle

nah not missing the point bro, i think you are. point is you are rebuilding whether you sign bradford or not, you are looking for the next qb whether you sign him or not… you know what you are getting with bradford if you pay him – a losing record, injuries, games missed, turnovers, and a bottom 10 qb… if your goal is to be 8-8 at best sure sign him… but if mediocrity is not acceptable then you cant give sam a cent

paulman
paulman
January 4, 2016 11:30 pm

***Paulman Rumors ****
Giants to talk to Chip Kelly about open HC Position
Eagles to talk to Tom Coughlin about open HC Position
(Coughlin started his NFL Career with the Eagles in 1984 as a WR Position Coach)

Saints asking Price is a 2nd Round Draft Pick in 2016 Draft for Sean Payton
Sean Payton would like to explore the Giants or 49ers open Positions

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
January 4, 2016 11:57 pm
Reply to  paulman

Stop streaming WIP

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2016 6:22 am
Reply to  RegalEagle

I don’t listen to, or get or stream Philly Radio Stations FYI…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 5, 2016 7:19 am

Colin Kaepernick has a torn ligament in his right thumb according to source

patrik411
patrik411
January 5, 2016 8:12 am

Any poster who relys on wip show for their
‘breaking scoops”are doing themselves a disservice . nothing there for an adult male or female , but idle schoolboy girly jokes, and any headline grabber they want to throw out there,Not many Pros or integrity on that staff.Better info on the Maury show.

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2016 9:48 am
Reply to  patrik411

94 is entertaining @ work for me imo… 97.5 is the worst. mikey miss is so nauseating and the cuz is like an 11 year old fanboy

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 5, 2016 10:21 am
Reply to  mhenski

Not many options though as Innes is an assclown Stern wannabe who talks more about strippers than sports.

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2016 10:24 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

yea innes isnt a sports broadcaster at all… he funny as fuck though imo.. more days than not i have to turn him off at work because he is too crude. ill take him being funny over mike miss putting me to sleep and the cuz just being a mush and acting 11 .

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 5, 2016 10:27 am
Reply to  mhenski

I agree about Innes that if he wasn’t supposed to be talking about sports, I may be more interested in listening to him.

I would rather have Mike and Mike back than Cuz. He is terrible.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 5, 2016 10:34 am

***Eagles News***

The Giants, Dolphins, Eagles, and 49ers all have strong interest in Sean Payton and would like to trade for him I’m hearing.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 5, 2016 10:42 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Unless a 28 year old Drew Brees is coming with him I’ll pass. He will require at least one draft pick. They are too valuable to trade- I will never again cheer a FA signing for the eagles unless its a mid-level guy to fill a need (jenkins comes to mind)- you need multiple draft picks each year to contribute at a high level

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2016 10:57 am
Reply to  haveacigar

There’s no hearing anything JH,
Its common knowledge on what Teams are interested in Sean Payton
The Saints are asking for a 2nd Round Draft Pick in Return (which the Eagles don’t have which means it would require their 1st Round Pick)
More importantly, the Teams that Sean Payton are Interested in are the NY Giants and SF 49ers now that the Colts have Extended Chuck Pagano
Payton is not interested in a “Rebuild” for that’s what he has in New Orleans and would get in Philly or Miami
Payton’s 1st Choice – 49ers have High Draft Picks, QB Kapernick is still under Contract and have $43 Million in Cap Space and a Rich Tradition of WInning and his Daughter goes to College in the Southern California Area at Pepperdine University
Payton’s 2nd Choice – Giants were Sean Payton’s first NFL Job under Bill Parcells and they have a Dynamic Offense in Place…

My Sources have Sean Payton returning to the Saints for 2016 Season and then leaving next Off-Season to become the HC for the Chargers who will be moving up to LA,Ca …

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2016 11:32 am
Reply to  paulman

Please post proof of statements, or retract, and state as personal opinion only…

I would like one statement where Sean Payton is actually saying this

I say that statement is a bold face lie…….considering that Payton isn’t even addressing his situation with the Saints until tomorrow…

Why would you come on here and state that lie…..Something is wrong with you Paul. You can’t stand being wrong can you????

and you have been way off for the last 2 weeks on your predictions.

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2016 12:12 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Payton’s already had his meeting with Saints GM Mickey Loomis, who you keep saying he’s tight with, and is actually one of the reasons that he’s looking to leave New Orleans and with Saints Ownership (Which is in transition from the elder, ill Owner Tom Benson and his New Wife who Mr Benson wants to leave Majority Control to, though his Kids want Majority Control away from Her which is another Reason Sean Payton wants out as its a daily drama soap opera with the Benson’s. Mr Tom Benson has Alzheimers kicking in pretty good and he probably doesn’t have the mental capacity to make major decisions about the Franchise.. The Kids want his NEw Wife out for she’s in it for the $$$ and Attention while the Kids want to Run a Football Team…

If you want Sources, Look them up yourselves but this is whats really happening in New Orleans and who Sean Payton wants to move on for he knows things will be turning uglier by the day with the Benson’s Fights over Ownership..
..

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2016 12:15 pm
Reply to  paulman

Back on Topic on Sean Payton,
My Guess is that the Saints GM Loomis and have given Sean Payton some 48-72 Hours to strike a Deal with another Club and if he cannot do so, then he will remain with the Saints so all Parties can move Forward for the 2016 Season

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2016 1:15 pm
Reply to  paulman

I ‘m not looking up anything. You’re stating it, and I know it’s not there, and so do you, that why you’re not cutting, and pasting to the blog.

I just want you admit that those statements are your personal opinion, and stop trying to shove that down our throats because it’s your personal preference.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2016 1:19 pm
Reply to  paulman

His meeting is scheduled for tomorrow Paul, Per NFL Network, and that’s when he’ll speak to the media.

I did hear that the Saints want a 2nd, but many are of the belief the price is lower, and the Saints are trying to increase their take by starting a bidding war for his services.

But don’t make up stuff. The Colts were never in negotiations with Payton.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 5, 2016 1:09 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

The second round pick in exchange for Payton is something that I heard on 97.5 from that guy Anthony Gargano. I think his source was Ian Rapoport…. Rappoport has been wrong in the past, so I take what he says with a grain of salt.

It’s hard to get facts from anyone… Even when you get a quote from the source of the story them self, it’s often a lie.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2016 1:24 pm
Reply to  paulman

paulman
January 5, 2016 – 10:57 am

Payton is not interested in a “Rebuild” for that’s what he has in New Orleans and would get in Philly or Miami
Payton’s 1st Choice – 49ers have High Draft Picks, QB Kapernick is still under Contract and have $43 Million in Cap Space and a Rich Tradition of WInning and his Daughter goes to College in the Southern California Area at Pepperdine University
Payton’s 2nd Choice – Giants were Sean Payton’s first NFL Job under Bill Parcells and they have a Dynamic Offense in Place…

My Sources have Sean Payton returning to the Saints for 2016 Season and then leaving next Off-Season to become the HC for the Chargers who will be moving up to LA,Ca …

Okay, cut, and paste proof of him actually saying this…….I’ll wait for it..

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2016 1:30 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Nope Cliff, Just watch Payton’s Actions…

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2016 1:34 pm
Reply to  paulman

No facts???……Why is that not surprising??

Like I said yesterday, He may not sign here, but he IS the best coach available, and until he is out of the picture, please don’t tell me what you think, because of I’m tired of the mediocrity.

There are much better options than Mike Vrabel, Dirk Keotter, Brad Seeley, and what other mediocre coach you want.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 5, 2016 11:07 am

According to my very well placed SOURCE… the sun will come up tomorrow, there will be a traffic jam on 95 and millions of people will go to work

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2016 11:13 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Per Chris Mortenson of ESPN, the Indy Colts were in heavy negotiations with Sean Payton yesterday and the Saints but simply could not make an agreement in terms of Compensation, and decided to keep Chuck Pagano which is why it took to 9pm last evening to announce the extension for Pagano..
I expected and stated that both Payton and Colts would have a strong interest in each other.. Who wouldn’t want to Coach Andrew Luck for hte next 10 Years.. It appears that Colts Owner Irsay, held Chuck Pagano off until exhausting his attempt at getting Payton, and when they didn’t happen, he extended a well liked and thought off Coach in Chuck Pagano..
Well Played by Mr Irsay, I have to admit…

mhenski
mhenski
January 5, 2016 12:41 pm
Reply to  paulman

CBS Sports’ Jason La Canfora reports the Colts did not have conversations with Sean Payton or his agent before re-signing Chuck Pagano.
This refutes a report from The Tribune-Star’s Tom James, who said talks between the Colts and Payton broke down before owner Jim Irsay decided to re-sign Pagano. ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports the Colts expressed interest in Payton, but negotiations might not have taken place. Either way, the Colts have already committed to Pagano for the long term, and Payton likely remains available for the right offer.
Related: Colts
Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter
Jan 5 – 10:38 AM

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 5, 2016 1:28 pm
Reply to  mhenski

What’s that the 6th-7th time you’ve been wrong in two weeks Paul??…..

Thank you Big Mhenski for providing actual facts…

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 5, 2016 12:26 pm

If you need a laugh my sources say go to crossing broad and look at the video of Tom Coughlin dissing the owner of the team after his press conference… it is great!

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2016 12:37 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Checking it out, Wonder if Jeff Lurie has any Interest into Talking/Interviewing Tom Coughlin… Coughlin clearly wants to continue to Coach ..
He started his NFL Coaching Career with the Eagles in 1984, maybe he’ll want to finish it with the Green & Silver .. His Family can Stay up in North Jersey and he can get a nice Appt in Town… It could work for 2-3 Years..
Wouldn’t that be something…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 5, 2016 12:41 pm

Source stating Doug Marrone is no longer a candidate for Eagles HC vacancy

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2016 12:55 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

That’s good news. Doug Marrone is another Arrogant, Self-Ego Driven HC and the Eagles don’t need to bring in another jerk after having Kelly for the last 3 Years..
Sources from Charlotte state Sean McDermott has no Interest into Returning to Philly or Working with or for Lurie/Roseman …

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
January 5, 2016 1:14 pm
Reply to  paulman

In an interview with 97.5 The Fanatic, an ESPN station, McDermott said he’s “always interested” in the possibility of returning to Philadelphia.

“I love the Philadelphia area and, quite honestly, it’s been tough to watch the last several years, having grown up in the area and worked there for 12 years,” McDermott said. “The fan base, I know it’s important to them. They’re genuine, they’re dedicated and they’re real.

“And the facilities up there are second to none, so I’d love to see the Eagles recapture the magic, so to speak.”

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2016 1:20 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Did they Ask Sean what his Feelings are about Howie Roseman ?
Sean McDermott loves his Hometown and His Eagles.. but He can’t stand Howie Roseman and will not Work for him… … Its hard to Work for People if you do not like or respect them… It is what it is….

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 5, 2016 12:44 pm

McDermott interviewing with the Browns Thursday

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
January 6, 2016 12:52 am

Moron.!.

If we keep Bradford the thought is not rebuilding. I don’t really care what they do. I will watch and complain or cheer.

No Bradford means the rebuild takes longer as you have the possIbilty of years of really really poor football as you go through Kolb, et al endlesdly