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Eagles Trade Mark Sanchez To The Denver Broncos

MarkSanchez25It was a good week for Eagles GM Howie Roseman and the Philadelphia Eagles as they capped things off by trading veteran quarterback Mark Sanchez to the Denver Broncos .

The move was expected because their quarterback situation didn’t make sense.  The Eagles had signed Sam Bradford to a new two-year deal and brought in his backup Chase Daniel, then signed him to a three-year agreement.

Despite this activity, Sanchez was still on the roster.  The Birds were expected to release Sanchez, but they able to get a draft pick for him.

Yesterday, the Eagles cleared up things by trading Sanchez to the Broncos for a conditional 7th round pick in 2017 draft.  They also will get $4.5 million dollar of cap relief from the trade, so it was a good move by Howie Roseman and the Birds.

Denver is in need of quarterback help because Peyton Manning retired and Brock Osweiler left the team for a free agent deal with the Houston Texans.

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DMAN
DMAN
March 12, 2016 1:04 pm

I wonder what the compensation will amount to. I’m assuming it will be based off of his production for the year. Let’s hope he plays well so the Eagles can get a decent draft pick for 2017.

paulman
paulman
March 12, 2016 1:15 pm
Reply to  DMAN

It’s probably contingent that Sanchez makes the Broncos 2016 Roster than the Eagles will get a 2017 7th Round Pick, if he doesn’t make their Roster, then Eagles get noting in return outside of clearing off his Contract/Cap Space hence the term “Conditional” with the compensation..

DMAN
DMAN
March 12, 2016 1:37 pm
Reply to  paulman

I’m ok with that too. I really thought the Eagles would strike a deal with the Broncos and send Bradford to them for their 1st round pick. They have the last pick in the 1st round. 2nd round pick probably wouldn’t have been good enough in exchange I’m assuming. But I’m ok with the Eagles holding onto Bradford. One more year healthy, and we should have a much improved O line as well. 1st pick for the Eagles will be RB Ezekeil Elliott. Would be a great pick for the Eagles at the #8 spot. And that’s if the Cowboys don’t cock block us and select him which wouldn’t surprise me at the least..

paulman
paulman
March 12, 2016 2:30 pm
Reply to  DMAN

I agree with you about the Draft
If both OT’s are Gone and the Cowboys/Ravens Select RB Elliot , then the Eagles should go CB with Alexander or Apple…

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 12, 2016 9:27 pm

Let’s hope the defense an QB needy cowgirls waste their pick on a RB! If one of the tackles or QBs fall then that’s the pick..if not it’s jack or shaq

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 13, 2016 6:23 am
Reply to  haveacigar

ZEKE the freak

paulman
paulman
March 13, 2016 12:57 am

Miss States QB Dak Prescott Arrested for DUI in Starkville,Ms this evening…
Not sure what led to his being stopped by Authorites and hopefully there was no Accident or Injuries involved for anyone.. Meanwhile, I am not sure how this impacts his Private Workout Schedule with Teams ,which I believe the Eagles were slated to see him next week up at NovaCare, but this is his 2nd incident in the last 3 Months as he was suspended during his Bowl Week ,which doesn’t bode well for him and especially at QB..

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 13, 2016 8:23 am
Reply to  paulman

Wouldn’t matter to me, Jacoby Brissett is a better QB anyway…….screw Prescott

paulman
paulman
March 13, 2016 9:53 am
Reply to  gmcliff

They both stink and are not NFL Quality QB..
Brissett has a chance if he gets with a Team with good Coaching..
He just holds, holds, holds the ball and is way to in-decisive..
He has very good Physical Tools, but is slow up top in his decision making but with Good Coaching, QB Friendly System he could develop down the road..
Watch AR of KC take a shot at Brissert

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 13, 2016 3:12 pm
Reply to  paulman

That’s fine Paul….

I disagree with you, and when it is all said, and done, I think Brissett will be one of the better QB’s in this draft – ala Brady in terms of being overly criticized, yet had the ability to be successful – although he wasn’t drafted high because of negative over evaluation.

Which why so many miss on prospects – They and Paulman are too critical about the most petty things that can be strengthened with NFL Coaching, and fail to look at their true abilities, and skill set…..

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 13, 2016 8:31 am

For the record, I am now on the record stating that the QB from Clemson is NOT a viable Franchise QB……..

So many, including all the so called experts will evaluate, and hype to nausea, but will be kidding themselves, and will be wrong.

zilents44
zilents44
March 13, 2016 11:41 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Cliff I love watson but he will not be a franchise QB has bust written all over him

daggolden
daggolden
March 13, 2016 2:28 pm
Reply to  zilents44

So the ! AA QB Wentz and the Matt Barkly Clone Goff are franchise QBs but Watson isn’t?.. hmmmm. Wentz and Goff cant carry Watsons jock in any aspect of quarterbacking. The beat goes on on how certain QBs on this board wont be any good but not a peep for other qbs. I haven’t heard one person say that Wentz or Goff aren’t franchise QBs but the most dynamic QB in the nation last year isn’t.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 13, 2016 2:47 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Watson isn’t in the draft is he? and the only one doubting him is cosmic cliff and he doubts everybody…
not sure what message you are trying to send her so maybe you should boldly put it out there—
again, why are you talking about a college kid who is not in the draft and getting pissed about people not talking about him??

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 13, 2016 3:02 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

First of all, I never said he was in the draft, and I am aware he isn’t.

I’m speaking about him, because many have stated on GCobb, and on the radio that we should try to get him next year, because they assume the success of Clemson will be granted through drafting him.

@ Daggolden. I don’t think Wentz, and Goff are Franchise changing QB’s either. In Watson, I see Geno Smith, and EJ Manuel type success. I didn’t see a dynamic QB, I saw a dynamic team in Clemson – sometimes many can’t tell the difference, and that is how GM’s get fired.

I also bring it up Ciggy, just as a conversation thread – and who said I was pissed because no one was talking about him?? – please cut, and paste where that is said…….

Again, you desire to just be an instigator, and irritant is so obviously apparent…..carry on as you wish Ciggy….who cares

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 13, 2016 3:18 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I’ll be meeting Watson April 9 &10th, when I fly to Clemson with my Nephew for his Campus Visit during Clemson’s spring game, but we’ve been assigned a Hotel in Seneca, which is 10 minutes from Memorial Stadium.

I’ll tell him what I’m saying when I see him, if I’m asked my opinion.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 13, 2016 4:27 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

shake my head, flying to Clemson with a nephew for a recruitment trip ?
Really Cliff? Going to talk to a Heisman candidate while you are there?
do you have no shame ?
At least this time you didn’t insult another high school athlete & claim you impregnated his mother with your sperm like you’ve been doing with the 2015 freshmen basketball class. 2015 brings New ridiculous lies involving nephews, smh.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 13, 2016 6:29 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

More ignorant, no nothing comments…

I have mentioned my nephews in the past, one will be a senior this year, and he has 44 full ride offers – and yes, one is to Clemson….

Avery Roberts, go check him out, and shut up….

I have concluded, that you will just have to be jealous that there is no talent in your family, and you don’t have the DNA to produce anything of use in this world, so you continue to spew all these comments lacking any insight….

I say it again, sounds like that is your problem. I am flying back from Las Vegas where I was supporting my boys – a proud father

eat your heart out….

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 13, 2016 6:52 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

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gmcliff
gmcliff
March 13, 2016 6:54 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

You’re a jealous son of a gun. Kiss my behind…

If I could post the birth Certificates of my Boys I would as well.

Just shut up. You don’t know me.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 13, 2016 7:22 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Cliff you stupid guy …I just canceled your reservations

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 13, 2016 7:45 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

HAC – that is hilarious.
Cliff – no need for a birth certificate.
I already communicated with Samia Dorsey, the mother of Tyler Dorsey of Oregon Basketball. She is very PROTECTIVE of her son. I think you better quit this nonsense.
Anyone is free to contact her also,
twitter account @DorseySamia –

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 13, 2016 9:06 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Cosmic cliff, I’m trying to verify this ‘trip” would you please post your credit card number, it’s expiration date and the 3 digit security code. Just so I can confirm you are going on a recruiting trip. Also if you don’t mind I will need your SS # and your mothers maiden name. Thanks… Once you have given all this info I will decide if your trip is legit.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 13, 2016 9:50 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

LOL

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 13, 2016 10:59 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I told you before that Samia wasn’t his birth mother, and you’re a liar she hasn’t had any conversations with you – and you, and I both know it.

Point is you were wrong as usual, in reference to my trip to Clemson, so now you’re trying to save face.

Ciggy, I hope you tried, without my personal information needed for verification, and confirmation that the airline was speaking to me, so I can see you face to face when they haul you off to jail, after they call my cell for verification, as I requested…..after they ask me would I like to press charges. That would be funny…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 14, 2016 1:42 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Sports Illustrated Journalist Luke Winn wrote an excellent article about Semia and her son with documentation of their heritage.
——————————————————————————–
(“Going Greek: Tyler Dorsey’s journey from California to Greece’s U19 team”
_____________________________________________________
Here is a link to the article ( si.com/college-basketball/2015/07/09/tyler-dorsey-oregon-ducks-greece-u19s )
_______________________________________________

Here is a synopsis of the article:
They traced Tyler Dorsey’s Greek Heritage -Started with Tyler Dorsey (1/4 Greek) to his BIRTH MOTHER Samia Dorsey (1/2 Greek) to her father & Tyler’s Grandfather Antoine Constantinides ( 100% Greek) subsequently making Tyler Dorsey eligible to play for the Greek National Team. He has a Greek Passport because he is not adopted ( as dingbat GMCliff writes) but the child of Greek women named Samia.
I DEMAND AN APOLOGY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I strongly suggest, once again, that you quit the nonsense. DINGBAT.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 14, 2016 1:50 am
Reply to  gmcliff

now knock off the Bullshit fairy tales about nephews and Clemson before I give you another Wedgie

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 14, 2016 6:54 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Wrong, Samia isn’t the only women in the world of Greek decent.

Tyler’s birth mother was Greek as well, but it isn’t Samia…and Jarrid did adopt him after Maria, his birth mother passed. There is NOTHING to apologize for.

I have never met Samia’s father, but sense she is married to Jerrid, that would make him his grandfather now wouldn’t it.

He does have a Greek Passport, and plays on the Greek National Team, that’s not news……..keep digging up nothing.

Oh, BTW, neither Samia, Jarrid, Tyler, or Jaylen have EVER had any conversations with you. So if you don’t mind, harness your jealousy. I’m comfortable in my skin.

I’ll take some pictures while I’m in Clemson, and I’ll change Jaylen’s picture to that and post it for you.

LOL!!! Who care what you believe??

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 14, 2016 7:08 am
Reply to  gmcliff

I know about that article. I read it last year.

It started out inaccurate stating he was born on the 4th of July. That isn’t true either. He was born February 14 1996, in New York – not California

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 14, 2016 10:04 am
Reply to  gmcliff

oh, sure Cliff, I understand, Sports Illustrated Journalist Luke Winn is the DIngbat who made a massive factual error not you.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 14, 2016 11:18 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Yeah, he is inaccurate. He started out wrong with his date of birth..

I don’t need any articles, or a jealous, obsessed poster to tell me who my kids are.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 14, 2016 12:22 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

hey Dingbat Cliff — every Philadelphia TV news station and every Philadelphia newspaper will have a reporter in Spokane Washington March 18, 2016 to watch Oregon’s first round tournament game before St Joseph plays Cincinnati after Oregon in Spokane in the same exact arena. Denny Basen and Jeff Kolsky have this remarkable story at their finger tips before every other outlet in the country. Espn, Fox sports, Nbc sports, Pac-12 network. That Jaylen Brown and Tyler Dorsey are brothers. Wonder why Denny and Jeff won’t write the story ?

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 14, 2016 3:39 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Probably because no one else is as obsessed with it but you, and for me that makes you the dingbat, because you’re fighting a fight you can’t win, and you’re swinging at the winds of reality, whether you believe it or not…

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 13, 2016 3:26 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I was commenting to Dag who seems to think there is some sort of motive behind someone bashing Watson…I have a feeling I know what he is saying which would be hilarious since most on here want him but cliff doesn’t… He’s trying to stir the pot!,,,

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 13, 2016 7:58 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

A pipe dream, a fantasy, pure illusion…

The Eagles would have to go 3-13 to get Watson..and they will not be that bad

Give it up, stop the madness…

We have a QB…get used to him..he’s going to be here for awhile…his name is Sam Bradford…he will play well this year, and get a fat extension..

Book it!

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 13, 2016 5:43 pm
Reply to  daggolden

The quarterbacks coming out this year are just as good as last year’s crop. Just because they didn’t play at big-time schools, or win heisman trophys does not mean they are not as good.

I’ll take Charley Casserly’s opinion over kooljerk – “I like Goff,” Casserly said. “Now, I watched five games on tape and you really have to see a guy play live and you have to see him in practice. But in today’s draft, he’s a top-10 guy. He’s better than [the Jacksonville Jaguars’ Blake] Bortles was coming out, and Bortles is developing into a pretty decent quarterback. You could see the talent with Mariota but this guy [Goff] is further along than Mariota because the system is more NFL-like. Winston has more ability. Winston has more star quality. But this guy has more consistency.”

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 13, 2016 7:13 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

I’ll take what I have heard a number of scouts say about Goff over Irishpiegon and Charley Casserly..the guy played in a spread offense that’s not similar to most NFL offenses…so If Chip Kelly is not taking the guy…he has a long way to go to learn the NFL style offenses. He played against weak competition and didn’t do all that well against good teams not that accurate.

Again…I truly hope that he is a taken by San Francisco or some other team…so that the Eagles will have a better opportunity at a true top ten prospective…that will come in a contribute right away…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 13, 2016 8:45 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Just to review:

You do not like QBs who play I spread offences in colleges.
You do not like QBs who are really thin and can’t handle NFL hits
You do not like QBs who have small (9′) hands and fumble a lot
You do not like QBs who will take a long time to “become average”
You do not like Qbs who pad there stats against weak competition
You do not like QBs who win against bad competition, but lose against good competition.

So clearly, you do not like Sam Bradford.

Because that’s him every day and twice on Sundays.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 13, 2016 8:58 pm

Just for the record Goff has never missed a game due to injury while at Cal. He has been very durable despite getting blasted as he played behind a swiss cheese O line at Cal with average receivers. Hmmmm

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 14, 2016 3:08 pm

Well Vinniedafool, unfortunately your Sam hate is just stupid. Even Ron Jaworski said he took a look at the film of Bradford (something you never do…you just look at the ‘stats’) and here is what he says:

“Sam Bradford played very well last year. In preparation from my quarterback big board that comes out in about another month, I went through every throw Sam Bradford made last season. When you look at 575 dropbacks, which I did, I saw a very rock-solid quarterback. He has very good accuracy. Good pocket movement. Good accuracy. I came to the conclusion before the Eagles signed Sam Bradford that they needed to re-sign him, and they did. They did a good job of getting it done.”

“A rock-solid QB with good accuracy”…Sam Bradford…the Eagles franchise QB!

Give it up Vinnie…this one is a wrap! The Eagles have made their decision.Your whines and bitching is irrelevant now. The Eagles had choices…they could have taken your suggestion and prediction: Dump Bradford and go for a ‘rebuild’ and hope to get a Franchise QB in this draft….and then go out and get Nick Foles to come back and lead the team until the Franchise guy is ready. Of course, you didn’t have to say it but it would have been understood…your deep hope that Foles would step in get the job done…the Eagles win…THEN you could have shifted and redeemed your long standing argument that Foles should be our QB.

The Eagles resoundingly rejected this stupid course of action advocated by you! Leaving you in pure humiliation and embarrassment!
So now…just suck it up accept it…Sam Bradford is the Eagles starting QB….

Face it!

mhenski
mhenski
March 14, 2016 3:26 pm

Jaworski would take Foles over Wilson and it’s “not even close”
Posted by Mike Florio on July 26, 2014, 9:37 AM EDT
Jaws Getty Images

At a time when the jury seems to be out on whether Eagles quarterback Nick Foles will perform at the same level he did in 2013, a former Eagles quarterback is ready to entering a verdict, beyond a reasonable doubt.

Recently appearing on 97.5 The Fanatic in Philadelphia, Jaworski was asked whether he’d want Foles or Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, who like Foles entered the NFL via round three of the 2012 draft.

“I’m taking Foles,” Jaworski said. “Not even close. Russell Wilson is just . . . because of that system he is in. Russell Wilson plays with that defense, the best in football. He just managed the game very well. I think Russell Wilson has played terrific, a great maturity, but I’m going to take Nick Foles.”

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 13, 2016 8:55 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

koolbreezzzzzzz, you’re all over the place with Goff. You posted to me that you will be glad when Goff is on the board and the Eagles pass on him so you can laugh and be gleeful..lol. Now on the post to Irish, you are hoping that Goff gets selected prior to the Eagles pick(intimating that you do think the Eagles may possibly take him if Goff is there at 8) . If you are confident that Goff will not be the Eagles pick you should not care or be concerned about another team scooping up Goff before 8. You sound conflicted, uncertain, unsure, insecure and confused.
You want Goff gone so the Eagles can pick a “real top ten talent” then you list Jack Conklin and Lawson in that top ten..lmao! Conklin and Lawson are mid-round 13-20 picks
If Goff or Wentz is there I want the Eagles to take him, if they do not I will be disappointed, however, if they take Ronnie Stanley, Treadwell, or Ezekiel Elliot I will be satisfied. Hargreaves is ok, but I can get a William Jackson or Eli Apple later in the first.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
March 13, 2016 9:13 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Kool , I re-read your post, I see…you want Goff to be taken early so more talent will be available..talking on phone and reading at the same time is not a good multi tasking activity when comprehension is required. I got you though…I disagree…but I got you. (Reading is fundamental) lol

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 13, 2016 11:43 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

EHL , I appreciate your honesty there…

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 13, 2016 3:06 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I’m not even saying he will be a bust Z…

I am just saying that he won’t be what so many are claiming that he will be – a Franchise Changing QB to revolutionize the Game, and lead his team to the SuperBowl.

I feel he is overhyped in the expectations of his potential by so many – and I disagree.

mhenski
mhenski
March 13, 2016 3:16 pm

Paul you’re unhealthy dude. Get a life. Do something besides gcobb dot com. Flip floppin weirdo with zero social interaction outside gcobb

Kool and Mac dolo I’m embarrassed for you. You’re a disgrace to freedom fighters alive and dead that have fought to abolish racism sexism and all forms of discrimination. I guess u 2 clowns think it’s funny to minimalize racism and turn something serious into a joke. Kool I know ur a loser with no real friends or family ( proved by watching the Super Bowl alone on gcobb dot com) but Mac dolo I don’t know who you are or when you have posted on here before but you’re a moron. The black panthers would slap the taste out of your mouth if you tried to join.

Fuck off losers

crazy johnny
crazy johnny
March 13, 2016 4:12 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Put cha arm out and try to break yo wrist, put it on yo chest and then bite yo lip, and go……nyaa nyaa nyaa nyaa

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 13, 2016 4:20 pm
Reply to  mhenski

henski wtf you talking bout?

mhenski
mhenski
March 13, 2016 5:20 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Mac Dolo
March 11, 2016 – 9:11 pm
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This is your your way of ridicule black people I see right through it mhenski.
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koolbreeze
March 11, 2016 – 9:30 pm
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Mac…everyone knows this guy is a KKK racist…and pervert too boot…
He’s been well exposed..
A miserable lame…LMAO
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People that make light of racism and just throw that shit around are disgrace

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 13, 2016 7:21 pm
Reply to  mhenski

mhenski, aka Mr MultipleProfiles, akaMr EnglishTeacher, aka.Mr spellchecker aka Mr.KKK aka Mr Pervert…it is well known and established that you are a racist pervert.
I have had nasty, insulting drag out fights on here with Vinnie, haveablunt, IrishBeagle, and others…we have exchanged insults on a pretty regular basis….but not a single one of them have I ever called a ‘racist’ or ‘pervert’…

Your different m-racist pervert-henski….

No one is making light of racism when it comes to your racist, perverted ass.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 13, 2016 7:23 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

I don’t understand how posting a video was a racist act?

mhenski
mhenski
March 13, 2016 8:03 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

It’s not hac obviously but you got jackass, disgraceful weirdos like Kool and Mac who think it’s funny to make light about racism and discrimination. Fuckin idiots , people like u using terms like racist like its a schoo
Yard talking shit term is such a jackass move and shows who you are – an ignorant jackass with absolutely no clue how serious the history of racism and discrimination are. You are insult to every person ever that has fought for their rights and rights of their neighbors.

Site 1 racist post I ever made you chicken shit ignorant cowards.

Racism is a funny joke huh Kool and Mac dolo ? 2 fuckin jackasses. No wonder u watched the super bowl alone on gcobb loser

zilents44
zilents44
March 13, 2016 9:50 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Wtf this convo went from watson being a bust to mhenski talking about freedom fighting, and dagg me and cliff are both black so race has nothing to with our assessment of watson, I follow Clemson a lot and they have 4th and 5th receivers who are better then a lot of teams 1st guy…..and the only QB I like is Lynch, I don’t like wentz and I think goff has accuracy issues…..Lynch has more upside but needs 3 yrs at least

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 13, 2016 10:34 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I agree Z…Lynch does have more upside

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
March 14, 2016 9:38 am

**Eagles News**

The source is telling me “Eagles have significant interest in DT Nick Fairley”

This is CONFIRMED

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 14, 2016 11:49 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Mark Eckel ‘spoke’ to me as well about the birds interest in Fairley… duh!

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
March 14, 2016 9:39 am

He may be the fall back plan if the talks between eagles and Cox new deal fall through…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 14, 2016 10:00 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Logan is a Free Agent next off season too along with Cox.Even if Cox is resigned He probably can’t afford Bennie.

paulman
paulman
March 14, 2016 11:11 am

Why not Draft one of the Top DT’s at #8 (Robinson,Billings,Rankins,Reed)
For a Younger,cheaper option than 28 Year Old and Expensive Nick Fairley who has had foot issues and has missed 19 Games in his 5 Year Career.. Fairley has 127 Tackles & 14 Sacks in his 5 NFL Season playing alongside some very good DL with the Lions & Rams in his CAreer too…
I pass on Fairley

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 14, 2016 12:34 pm
Reply to  paulman

Nick Fairly received $5 million last season in St.Louis, you would have to think he is getting less this year. How much would you be comfortable spending?

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 14, 2016 2:09 pm

If we can get Fairly on the cheap…I’d take a flyer on him as a 3rd DT with Cox and Logan starting…

paulman
paulman
March 14, 2016 2:36 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

A 2 Year – $5 Million with maybe a $1 Million Sign on Bonus for Fairley ?..
He’s never quite lived up to his expectations coming out of Auburn but would be a nice back-up/rotational Player to have at DT where the Eagles need some Depth but with a Draft Class so Deep at DT, good ones can be had in the 3rd/4th/5th Round who can learn and play behind Cox/Logan..
I would rather the Eagles use this $$$ for a Veteran WR to be honest or even a RB where the Eagles are very thin right now..

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 14, 2016 11:13 am

Same old shit on this board I see, Cliff do your thing man and Watson won’t be a bust you’re doing him a disservice by comparing him to Smith and Manuel. Wentz has a higher chance of being a bust because QB hungry teams will over draft him. I wouldn’t touch any of these QB’s in this draft, I agree with you Cliff on this point Brissett is just a viable a pick as Wentz.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 14, 2016 11:27 am
Reply to  Biglion821

I didn’t say he would be a bust Biggie, I feel he won’ meet the expectations of the masses that think he is the 2nd coming of Cam Newton….

His career will have simillar success as Smith and Manuel….mediocre at best.

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 14, 2016 11:52 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Okay Cliff I just think he has better potential than either Manuel or Smith I don’t think he’ll match what Newton is doing.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 14, 2016 12:12 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Watson is much closer to Vick then he is to Newton. He needs to put on about 35-40 lbs to be Newton. Predicting him to be a bust before he plays his final season seems a bit short sighted to me. I will agree that he has a lot of weapons, but he also made some big plays (including throws in big games). I will wait to see if he further develops, but I think that he could be a pretty solid pro.

paulman
paulman
March 14, 2016 12:59 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

For the Whatever it’s Worth Dept on Aisle 8…
The QB from ND probably compares more favorably to a young Cam Newton
Carry On… His name escapes me but he’s a bigger kid than DeShaun Watson and likes to run more .. Watson likes to stay in Pocket and Pass more..but can run when needed or called for .. I like both their Games and think they will have potential at the next level.. I think Watson is clearly ahead of where Tedy Brdgewater was after his 1st Year of Playing College..

Biglion821
Biglion821
March 14, 2016 2:00 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paulman the ND kid is a pocket passer who can run, Kelly had to teach him the read option. He’s young and locks on to his primary receiver too much and can get really inaccurate at times. He throws a really nice deep ball though.

paulman
paulman
March 14, 2016 2:09 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Is it Kizer? Who did he replace that got Hurt and was playing pretty well too..

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 14, 2016 2:46 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Kizer is big and fast as hell, but I would say he is wildly inaccurate, but he was thrown into the situation when Malik Zaire got hurt.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 14, 2016 2:04 pm

Cliff lets be fair, you whiffed on Mariotta last year when you predicted he was going to be a bust. Watson is way over Manuel or Smith and has a chance to be an All-Pro QB for years to come. He’s got all the tools.
I’m on board with everyone that says if we grab a QB in this draft a Prescott or Brissett in the 4th or 5th round would be fine…without putting heightened expectations on the kid to be a ‘franchise QB’, would be good. People want to force things that just are not there…give the kid a chance to develop in the background…right now our franchise QB like him or not is Sam Bradford.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 14, 2016 2:20 pm

I’ve just read that Howie is looking to get a deep threat at wide receiver and there is some talk about Will Fuller of ND….Of course, you cant take him at 8…but maybe we should think about trading out of 8 picking up a 2nd rounder and grabbing him there!

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 14, 2016 3:55 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

So I have to ask these questions about our WRs.

1) Why isn’t Agholor our deep threat? 4.42 speed is not blazing, but it is pretty damn fast (Maclin 4.45). Is this guy a 1st round possession WR who can’t catch?
2) Mathews is supposed to be such a polished WR, then why doesn’t he move to the outside? I think that he has a lot of potential on the outside and he will be bumping into the TEs in the middle of the field.

Just my 2 cents.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 14, 2016 3:42 pm

Can I get comment from the ‘trust the process” people? So we put together a monumental tank- some of the worst basketball ever played on a pro floor to give ourselves the best chance for yet another top pick— and I remember everyone tanking for simmons- the next bron bron– the guy that you tank for and it changes your franchise— I believe that young mr. simmons has shown himself to be a mutt with fleas– so now who is the tank for???

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 14, 2016 3:49 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

well havablunt…you want the equivalent to the “trust the process” in football with the Eagles…why not have it for basketball as well? Simmons was forced to play a year in college basketball and he simply wasn’t very interested…he’ll be a much better pro…
That being said, I’m opposed to tanking in any sport…especially football…basketball has a much better chance to work…Football its impossible…which is why the Eagles made the right moves this oft-season and didn’t go for your tank plan!

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 14, 2016 3:56 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

nimrod– i said sign bradford because in football you can’t tank– said it in early january–
you can’t be impressed with simmons competitiveness– any ‘player’ that would allow that to happen, not make the ncaa and then turning down the nit– nope– i predict a flame out for mr. simmons– dude signs that contract to play for a bad team– no way

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 14, 2016 3:59 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

That whole team was hit or miss with their effort this year. Coach didn’t do a very good job IMO

mhenski
mhenski
March 14, 2016 3:59 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

man simmons looks like a solid PF but not a franchise player. Sixers pretty much cant take him now unless they are getting something big for okafor… gotta take the duke kid but he isnt special either… its rough

tank wouldve worked had we won some lottos instead we whiffed on jabari, wiggins, towns, russel and took okafor over godzingas..

noel is average at best and will never be an all star

okafor looks like a robin lopez type that can score at will but will give up more buckets then he gets and cant rebound

saric cant start in syria and we supposed to be happy about him coming here. lol he blows

embiid will he ever play?

sad state still in philly – i dont even want the 1 pick this year. and if we do get it i hope philly can trade it for a vet that can score… sign and trade for derozen or something?

idk okafor noel and maybe embiid is a major jam downlow all of them have significant deficiencies. i want sixers to be good again bad

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 14, 2016 4:09 pm
Reply to  mhenski

henski i know you were a huge fan of the multiple tank…and you follow them closely for you to admit to the colossal failure is huge–
as for the LSU team– i get it that it was a bad season but come on… everyone pegged simmons as a franchise changer… well a franchise changer would have done a little something in college– it is why the tank doesn’t work– tank for an 18 year old– no thanks-
where is JH showin’ his love????

mhenski
mhenski
March 14, 2016 4:33 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

sucks hac. i think if we get 1 or 2, 2 years ago and got wiggins or parker we would be in solid shape. if we got any of the top 4 picks besides okafor i would like our position much better also

what simmons has been doing is really uninspiring and disappointing, he has demonstrated that he is a pf in the pros (unless he all of a sudden starts shooting?) and if he a PF we just gonna stock another big? nobody can shoot in philly and we havent had any shooters in forever, i want a shooter at this point so i guess i go ingram. unless we can take simmons and trade okafor for a real player…

if no players are being moved from our current roster id actually like us to find a way to get heild and jamal murray

we have assets im just praying we can put some of those assets in machine and start a legit nba team this year

mhenski
mhenski
March 14, 2016 4:36 pm
Reply to  mhenski

and idk if its a failure or not b/c the alternative of being that team that just shows up to the playoffs isnt fun either.. this tank job was always described as building a team thats ready to win a title in 2020 and if thats going to be the case this has ot be a great offseason.

im sick of 1 dimensional players, sick of d league guys, sick of guys that cant shoot… im sick of the process.

paulman
paulman
March 14, 2016 5:22 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

The 76ers has to Hope the Embiid can Play and that Dario Saric is a Player or they are toast and have to start from Scratch…

Upcoming Draft Wise- Forget about Ben Simmons or Ingram
They need a Big Guard who can Distribute the Ball first, Defend the Ball and would be Icing on the Cake if he can Shoot well
I like the Following

1) Kris Dunn – (6-4′ 220lbs) of Providence fits the above Requirements the Best in this Upcoming Draft

2) Jamal Murray – (6-5 207lbs) of Kentucky has really come on the 2nd half of the College Season and has taken on a real leadership Role for Kentucky

76ers need a Top Flight True Point Guard to Run this Offense and Defend the Ball and become a Leader for this fledgling Franchise
When checking out the 76ers.. Ish Smith runs the Floor and Offense but boy, he gives up Career Games to Opposing Guards almost every night out, maybe have him run the 2nd Group for 8-10-12 Minutes a Game…

mhenski
mhenski
March 14, 2016 6:58 pm
Reply to  paulman

My wet dream scenario this offseason. Sixers get 1, lakers get 4 and Celtics get the 2 pick from the nets. We trade okafor in a deal to get 2 and we walk away with Simmons, ingram and Heild

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 14, 2016 9:13 pm
Reply to  paulman

Dunn can be tend to be out of control, erratic in his play, and inconsistent in his offensive, and defensive game.

Murray, isn’t worth that high of a pick – He’s a dime a dozen player in the NBA – nothing special

Many are totally overrating Brandon Ingram. He is not Kevin Durant – not even close.

Simmons is the only pick they should be interested in

paulman
paulman
March 14, 2016 11:19 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I disagree, there is not 1 College Player in this Draft who doesn’t have deficiencies in their Game
The 76ers have no Special PG’s on their Roster, they have some potential upside on their Frontline if they get improved Guard Player
I also like the SG Hield also, for who wouldn’t want a pure shooter like him on their Team ..

Ben Simmons Has a long ways to go and good 2-3 Years away from anything Special.. He’s regressed as the College Season went along and as Teams in the SEC threw bodies at him, what’s going to happen next season or two when the NBA Teams start having bigger, stronger Players beating him down..
He must get stronger and much tougher if he’s going to gave any impact at the NBA Level.. Talk about over-hype & overrated .. He’s been a big disappointment in my opinion…

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 15, 2016 3:29 am
Reply to  paulman

Paul, no offense, if this was an opinion on Football from you it would hold some weight but your opinion on basketball players is horrible.

Hield wouldn’t do what he does in the NBA….

mhenski
mhenski
March 14, 2016 6:27 pm

Franco just smashing dingers!

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 14, 2016 7:36 pm

If the Giants get Elliott along with Odell, now that’s scary.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 14, 2016 9:13 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

No they won’t…

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
March 14, 2016 10:17 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

I’m just so scared to death.

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 8:09 am

I’ve watched a lot of College B-Ball this Year and I’m not very impressed with this upcoming Draft .. There is a lot of Good Players, but I see no “Franchise Types” who will turn around a Team or Franchise by themselves,
No I don’t see any of them this year… Mostly complimentary Players
Ben Simmons has to be the most overrated Player I’ve seen in the last 5 Years..
Yes he’s good, but I’ve seen many Posters comparing him to Durant & others and I just don’t see him anywhere close to an elite Player.. Not not mentally or physically mature enough, and nowhere close of making any kind of Impact..
Just a talented young kids like a lot of them in every Draft…
The 76ers are going nowhere anytime soon..

zilents44
zilents44
March 15, 2016 1:07 pm
Reply to  paulman

Eagles sign Nolan carrol to one yr deal 2.3 mill,we got some real depths CB now,no dB at 8, probably Stanley

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 1:26 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Most likely No CB at #8
It will come down to OT R Stanley, DL Buckner,LB M Jack, RB Elliot, DE S Lawson or DT A Robinson or possibly QB P Lynch (Wenz/Goff are likely Gone already)

Stanley,Buckner are likely Gone too..

zilents44
zilents44
March 15, 2016 1:30 pm
Reply to  paulman

I’m going Jack or Elliot if Stanley not there

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 2:36 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I’m going With OT Stanley if he’s there, if not, then RB Elliot
I’m not too crazy about Myles Jack, coming off that Torn ACL in October,
He really doesn’t have that much experience as he’s played 2 Years as LB in College after originally be recruited as a RB.. He’s an athletic freak, no doubt, but after seeing him in some Interviews he seems to be a self-absorbed and stuck on himself.. I think he may have a hard time transitioning to the East Coast as a Professional Athlete

The Cowboys really hold the Key how this 1st ROund will fall out as the Top 3 Selections are pretty locked in in my opinion

1) Titans – OT L Tunsil
2) Browns – QB C Wenz or J Goff
3) Chargers – DB J Ramsey
4) Cowboys – ? (Need DL – Buckner or Bosa, LB- Jack, RB – Elliot or a Future QB ?)
5) Jaguars – DL Bosa or Buckner
6) Ravens – OT R Stanley or DE Buckner
7) 49ers – QB or WR Treadwell
8) EAGLES – OT Stanley, RB Elliot, LB Jack, DT A’Shawn Robnison
9) TB Bucs – CB Hargreaves III
10) Giants – RB Elliot, DE Noah Spence or DE Shaq Lawson

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 15, 2016 2:53 pm

I still have this feeling that the birds are moving further up in this draft for the QB they want. I would not be shocked to see them trade w tennesee for the 1. I just think they are looking to avoid giving up anything in the future though I see any current player pick combo as in play.

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 3:25 pm

Big Trade News

NE Pats Trade DE Chandler Jones to the Arizona Cardinals for Guard Jonathon Cooper and their 2nd Round Pick (#61st Overall)
Now the Patriots will the #61st from Arizona and their own 2nd Round Pick #62 which helps them since they had no 1st Round Pick due to Deflagate as well as a Young Guard in Cooper who can play LG or RG

Arizona gains that Edge Pass-Rusher that they were looking for in JOnes so a Win-Win for everyone…

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 3:33 pm

So Pman you want to draft a guard at 8 too huh.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 15, 2016 4:09 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

P diddy, your boy has jumped off the Elliot bus…. You two were tight the other day drafting him 8…. He already backed off and said an OL… It’s just his way of engaging conversation, but I knew he’d leave you hanging on the RB pick

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 4:56 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I have stated all along and will repeat 1 final time..
If 1 of the 2 OT’s (Tunsil or Stanley) are still on the Board at #8
then I grab one of them, but since its very unlikely that either Player will be on the Board, then I would Select RB Elliot at #8

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 5:10 pm
Reply to  paulman

Number 8 pick on a right tackle, only in phila.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 15, 2016 5:17 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

Except lots of teams do…. 11 top ten tackles since 2010…… You have to build your line with talent….if not drafting someone to protect the QB then draft someone to sack the QB…

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 5:58 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

You take left tackles in the first round not right tackles. Left tackles are top ten picks not right tackles. Lane Johnson was paid already to be our left tackle when peters is done. We can get a right tackle in the third round. Again Runyon was a 4th round pick and he was great.

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 5:27 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

If OT Russel Stanley is on the Board at #8
then I select him, play him at LG in 2016 and then Move him to LT in 2017 to Replace the Outgoing Jason Peters or Switch Stanley to RT if Lane Johnson goes the LT, either way, I will be set at OT Position for the next 5-6-7 Seasons barring Injury

2016 OL — L Peters, R Stanley, J Kelce, B Brooks & L Johnson

If Tunsil and Stanley are both off the Board by the #8 Selection
then I Draft RB Ezekial Elliot

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 6:02 pm
Reply to  paulman

They paid lane Johnson left tackle money people look at the numbers

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 6:23 pm
Reply to  paulman

2016 OL- Peters, 3rd round pick, Kelce, Brooks, Johnson

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 15, 2016 4:12 pm

MMQ and the NFL website wrote Howie’s goal was to move into the top 10 in the draft because he identified 10 elite prospects and wanted to be in the position to get one. Espn Todd McShay says there are 4 elite prospects before the drop off. ( Bosa, Tunsli, Buckner, Ramsey )

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 4:58 pm

I think you can Drop Bosa off that Elite Prospect List
Its Tunsil,Ramsey and Buckner, the Rest all have some ?’s
This may be the Weakest Draft Class in 20 Years from Top to Bottom
Good DL/OL a Few CB’s,RB’s,LB’s and thats about it…
WR & TE & QB are downright Poor in my opinion

Xevious
Xevious
March 15, 2016 4:54 pm

Scenario 1. Chip deals Kap to Cleveland they take Bosa or another Player of need. Goff drops to us at 8.

Scenario 2. Cleveland loses the Kap sweepstake, we trade our 8 and a 3rd to Baltimore for their 6 ahead of Chip and grab Goff.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 15, 2016 5:24 pm

24 tackles taken in the first round since 2010…

However, call me Fraudman …I’ve read, watched some highlights … Damn Elliot looks real good…

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 5:41 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Elliot is explosive with speed and at 225 lbs is a real load coming thru the hole..I like he he keeps his shoulders square and low to the ground. so he’s like trying to tackle a missile instead of running upright like a lot of RB’s do these days …
Remember the Eagles have no legitimate RB under Contract beyond the 2016 Season… Ryan Matthews is opmely on the Tradking blocks so how much confidence does anyone have with him… Darren Sproles has been a Warrior, but lets be honest, he is on his last legs a situational 3rd Down/Scat Back at this stage of the his Career
The Draft Pick that helps this Eagles Offense and QB Sam Bradford the most for 2016 is RB Ezekial Elliot, there is little doubt in my mind about this.. Yes there are other good RB’s in the 3rd/4th Round, but as far as play makers, game breakers from the RB Position, I am not sure there is another RB in this Draft as explosive as Ezekial Elliot and hes only played 2 Full Seasons at Ohio State with a Career with 562 Carries over the last 28 Games which is a 20 Carry a Game Average so he’s not worn out yet..
I envision this Eagles Offense under Pederson and Reich to be conservative, run oriented and take some shots off of Play-Action since the Eagles Wr’s are not real explosive and either is Bradford’s arm.. Play-Action works best when you are able to effectively run the Ball where the Defense has to honor that run game and start creeping up and commit to stopping it, then you can hit them over the Top.. if you can’t run the Ball effectively then Defense’s never have to honor your run game and therefore can pin their ears back against an immobile QB which is a double whammy and leads to alot of the negative plays we saw last Season.. A strong Running Game opens up a lot in thepassing Game and I think this is the way Pederson with Bradford and the Eagles current Receivers & Offense is going to have to work..
Bradford and his Receivers are not going to be successful slinging the ball 35-40 times a Game … A Balanced Offensive Approach with timely Play-Action Passes, Double TE Sets and a Strong Rushing Game will work and especially in December in the NFC East…

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 6:09 pm
Reply to  paulman

Pman look at lane’s contract they didn’t pay him that much money just to play right tackle.

daggolden
daggolden
March 15, 2016 6:21 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paulman what round was Arizonas David Johnson( Elliiots twin) taken in. How about Kendrick West or Kniles Davis. What about Justin Forsett. My goodness I like Elliot if everything else fails but my goodness find me a late round RB like them.

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 6:26 pm
Reply to  daggolden

David Johnson is a nice back, but he is not on Todd gurley’s level. Elliott is you guys are nuts. Let’s take a right tackle/ Guard with the 8th pick.

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
March 15, 2016 6:36 pm
Reply to  paulman

You heard this on bleeding green nation now your running with it.

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 6:42 pm
Reply to  Mac Dolo

Mac honestly I don’t even look at that site, I liked Elliott period after that Alabame game I was a believer

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
March 15, 2016 7:16 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

That was directed at Paulman.

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 7:30 pm
Reply to  Mac Dolo

I was talking about Elliot at #8 last Friday Mac since I expect both OT’s and both Wenz/Goff to be Selected already…
Eagles need a RB in a bad way, in Fact, they need 2 from this Draft
1 early and 1 late…

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 6:07 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

We don’t need a lineman that high this year. Peters is still here we can replace him next year. Lane will switch to left and we can get a right tackle via free agency or draft. We can get two guards this year in the 4th and 5th round. Your going to draft a lineman to play guard at 8!thats ridiculous.

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 6:17 pm

Oh yeah I say hell no to Ben Simmons at 1 which sucks cause it messes up every dam thing.

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 7:43 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

76ers signing PF Brandon Bair at 6-9, 290lbs to their Roster for the rest of the Season

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 15, 2016 7:19 pm

I think Elliot has a star on his helmet at pick 4 so be prepared.

It makes sense for Dallas if they do not take a QB. Romo, Dez, Zeke the new triplets to hate.

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 7:21 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

So true I hope your wrong tho

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 15, 2016 7:26 pm

I think the two tackles go 1 and 6. But If Cleveland lands Kaepernuckles maybe they go 1-2

I still think we need to make a play for the 1 and select Wentz. Then you can let him learn for a year or so. Maybe move Bradford on draft day for a 2 if not part of the package to move up.

Key is get there without sacrificing next year. That means any player on the roster and an pack of picks this year. He’ll give Tenn the 8, our 2 3rds the 4rth and both 5ths.

NOthing matters till we have a 5 year commitment to a QB.

I like Bradford but a Top Rookie is just a better long term plan.

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 15, 2016 7:36 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

Ok now that makes sense getting a possible franchise quarterback makes sense

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 7:40 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

That’s crazy RE, there is not a QB in this Draft Class worth mortgaging the Future just to have a young QB… Wenz/Goff/Lynch are 2-3 Year projects and don’t even compare to the Bortles, Bridgewater & Carr Class of 2 Years ago when they came out….
The Eagles can simply Draft a Kevin Hogan, Brian Dougherty, Jacoby Brissert or Jeff Driskel in Rds 3, 4, 5 for a 3rd String QB for the nex 2-3 Seasons

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 7:42 pm
Reply to  paulman

A 5 Year Commiment to a QB or any Player is not realistic in today’s faster paced Sports World… These QB’s of Today get 3 Years Max or they get shown the Door

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 16, 2016 10:37 am
Reply to  paulman

1st round picks are on 4 year deals with 5th year options. Thus a 5 year deal. Opinions on the quality of the QB’s differ widely depending on who you listen to. It comes down to how the Eagles value them. If they think there are 2 Franchise QB’s then we are in good shape. If they think there is one then we have to move up.

It will hopefully never cost less to go get our guy as I hope we are not picking top 10 for a long time. If we had no defense and no Bradford I would say we could end up with a top 5 pick next year. With our current team I think we could be a division winner and not see the top 15.

So if the guy we need is going at 2 we have to get to 1. If he is the guy it’s a 10plus year investment so up you go.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 16, 2016 12:00 am
Reply to  paulman

Not the future just this year

Mac Dolo
Mac Dolo
March 15, 2016 7:52 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

Great post regalidiot.

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 7:50 pm

Trade Rumors between the Jaguars and Eagles
Eagles Send 8th Pick & DE Brandon Graham and a 3rd Pick (#79) to the Jaguars for their #5 Pick…. More details at 11pm…
It’s obvious now that Eagles want one of the Top 2 QB’s (Goff/Wenz)

New NFL 2016 Top 5 Mock Draft

1) Titans – OT Tunsil
2) Browns – QB Goff
3) Chargers – DB J Ramsey
4) Cowboys – RB Elliot
5 EAGLES – QB Carson Wenz

CT
CT
March 15, 2016 9:47 pm
Reply to  paulman

Pls don’t say or make a post like that Paulman. That would be make me sick. Keep your draft picks and young talent instead of taking a qb that will not make us a better team in 2016. We already have Sam who our headcoach has raved about. And a veteran in chase Daniels who our hc is very familiar with. Makes zero sense to take a qb.

Go with the BPA. I say Elliot or the top CB. Let’s help out our new hc as much as possible in year 1

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2016 9:57 pm
Reply to  CT

I agree CT and have stated that I want nothing to do with any of these QB’s with the Eagles 1st Pick..don’t confuse my Trade Alert/Rumors with what I would do..I gave my Draft plan numerous times..
Select either one of Top 2 OT’s (Tunsil/Stanley) if they are available,
If both are gone, which xpected, then Draft RB Ezekial Elliot at #8 to help this Offense.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
March 15, 2016 10:20 pm

I would love to get rid of Graham I don’t think he’s anything special very good against the run avg as a pass rusher

CT
CT
March 15, 2016 10:24 pm

Just got done watching every single one of Elliots game highlights on Youtube. I am glad you high on the kid like I am. I believe he could be a Leveon/Lesean Hybrid type back. Kid runs hard, lowers his body and uses those damn pads. Do not underestimate his cutback, and shiftyness. His game versus Oregon stood out to me among many others.

Kid is going to special and would look sexy in Eagles green.

IF Dallas is an intelligent franchise, they better take this kid.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
March 15, 2016 10:55 pm

Jeeeezus!!!

An rb in the first?!?!??!?!?!

An rb in the top 10???!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!????!!!!!!!!?????!???!?!?!!!!!!!??!!!

Delusional

CT
CT
March 15, 2016 11:22 pm

Yes vinnie!!! Why on earth would a team take a playmaker and game changing running back In the first round. Stop buying into that bullshit that running backs are everywhere and U can find one in any round.

People get this idea in their head that running backs aren’t appreciated and that the running game isn’t important.

When we had a running game Sam was 7-1. Only loss came against Carolina where we had 3 dropped touchdowns. Give Sam a running game and improved oline and watch the man work.

CT
CT
March 15, 2016 11:57 pm

People freaking out over the idea about drafting a RB in the first round because he might be a bust is hilariously sad. Players at every position bust every year. This reasoning would inform a team to never draft a quarterback because of all the various busts at the position over history. There is no inherently “safe” or “dangerous” pick based off of position alone. Danny Watkins was supposedly a “safe” pick and he was a disaster. Picks are “safe” based on what the tape and off field says, not what position they play.

Running backs cannot be found anywhere. Running back production is not so easily manufactured as people like to say it is. Just ask the 2015 Philadelphia Eagles how easy it is to manufacture a running game. Look at the best running backs in the league over the last few years, Marshawn, Peterson, Lesean, Leveon, Forte, and Todd G. Every single one was taken in the top 55, with three of them being in the top 15.

Jamall Charles was a 3rd round pick I believe? And Alfred Morris a 6th and Arian Foster a UDFA. But that logic can be labeled to any other position in the League.

Dont draft OBJ because of Antonio Brown
Dont Draft Rodgers because Of tom Brady
Dont draft Aaron Donald because of Geno atkins
Im sure people can name plenty of others.

The argument is flawed and pointless. People go with the bandwagon because most people are followers sadly. They see one pencil pusher who has never played the game a day in their lives make the comment like Todd Mcshay or Kiper and everyone goes with it. STOP IT. Draft a great player when he is their that can help make your football team become dominate and better then the previous season. Playing cost benefit analysis when their is clearly a special player on board is how bad steams stay bad. And how bad teams stay mediocre.

Zeke the freak. People will bitch if he’s the selection. But you gotta ask yourself. Will he make us better? What if Ryan or 34 year old sproles goes down?

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 16, 2016 1:47 am
Reply to  CT

Amen ct

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 16, 2016 6:00 am
Reply to  CT

Him being a bust has nothing to do with it. It’s a value thing … Just like paying a high salary to a back typically isn’t worth it.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
March 16, 2016 12:05 am

If they don’t move off 8 and One of the 2 QB’s are there but not the one they want, I hope that LA will trade us their 1 this Year. Our 2This Year And Their 1 next year. I do this hoping they implode completely netting us the top pick next year and we get a OL at their pick this year and a Playmaker with our 2 or even move back into round one for Lynch

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
March 16, 2016 2:57 am

You take the best, most talented player available at that spot…regardless of position based off of a balanced evaluation of the players. If Eliot is the best talent available when you pick-you take him. However, dont fall for the fake out…dont reach for any player…None of the Quarterbacks or Wide Receivers in this draft are blue chip Top Ten draft picks.
Do not reach..

daggolden
daggolden
March 16, 2016 6:04 am

From Jimmy Kempski. and the Voice. I left out the RB charts.But it makes sense,

When the Eagles traded up from 13 to 8 on the first day of the new league year a week ago, it opened up a whole new list of possibilities in terms of who could be available to them in the draft. One of those possibilities is Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott.

To begin, let’s be very clear — Elliott is really, really good. This is in no way a slight against Elliott, rather, it’s a about the value of drafting the position he plays at the eighth overall pick.

After trading DeMarco Murray, the Eagles are down to Ryan Mathews, Darren Sproles, and Kenjon Barner. Mathews is frequently injured, while Sproles will turn 33 in June and is in the final year of his deal. The Eagles can use help at running back. There’s also the argument that the Eagles don’t currently have an explosive talent in their offense, and that’s what Elliott has the potential to be.

For those reasons, Elliott makes sense. However, the reasons Elliott makes sense are far outweighed by the reasons he does not, which we’ll enumerate below.

The lifespan of an NFL running back is incredibly short

Running backs take a pounding in the NFL. Their bodies wear down, and even the good ones rarely make it beyond the age of 30

The average age of the running backs above is 25.5 years old, and that’s before the draft, when some rookies will replace aging vets atop the depth chart. By comparison, the average starting age of NFL quarterbacks heading into the 2016 season is 29.4, and that’s with an almost 40-year old Peyton Manning having already retired.

In short, if you’re a Super Bowl contender looking for an immediate impact player for the short term, then sure, go draft yourself a running back talent in the middle-to-end of the first round. If you’re not currently a Super Bowl contender, however, (cough, Eagles, cough), it becomes harder to justify taking a running back at eighth overall and putting two years of wear and tear on him before you’re likely going to be in a position to compete for a Super Bowl.

Again, there is no question that he is a great player. However, there is an absurd number of really good sophomore running backs who will be eligible to enter the NFL Draft in 2017. A quick list:

• Leonard Fournette, LSU: Beast of a human being, ran for 1953 yards and 22 TDs on 6.5 yards per carry in 2015.

• Dalvin Cook, Florida State: Ran for 1691 yards and 19 TDs in 2015 on 7.4 yards per carry.

• Christian McCaffrey, Stanford: One of three Heisman finalists in 2015, ran for 2019 rushing yards and 8 TDs, added 45 catches for 645 yards and 5 TDs, returned a kick for a TD, returned a punt for a TD, and threw 2 TD passes.

• Royce Freeman, Oregon: Ran for 1836 yards and 17 TDs on 6.5 yards per carry. In 2014, as a freshman, he ran for 1365 yards and 18 TDs.

• Nick Chubb, Georgia: Ran for 1547 yards and 14 TDs on 7.1 yards per carry as a freshman, and then 747 yards and 7 TDs on 8.1 yards per carry before suffering a serious leg injury in the Bulldogs’ sixth game.

• Samaje Perine, Oklahoma: Ran for 1713 yards and 21 TDs on 6.5 yards per carry as a freshman, and then 1349 yards and 16 TDs on 6.0 yards per carry as a sophomore.

And then there’s Wisconsin’s Corey Clement, Pitt’s James Conner, and Baylor’s Shock Linwood, who will all be highly regarded seniors in 2016.

Even if you believe that Elliott is better than every single one of the players listed above (I don’t, for the record), wouldn’t it be much better value to get a marginally less talented back in the second round in 2017 than Elliott at eighth overall?

Finding a good running back isn’t like finding a franchise quarterback, a quality offensive tackle, a good cover corner, or a stud edge rusher. Good running backs are easy to find. The other positions, not so much.

Furthermore, you can be exposed if you don’t have a QB, OT, CB, or lack a pass rush, whereas teams routinely have shown they can thrive without a top-flight running back.

Elliott is a great player, and he could pay immediate dividends for an Eagles offense that does not have much in the way of home run threats. Just not at 8.

daggolden
daggolden
March 16, 2016 6:11 am
Reply to  daggolden

Get a RB next year. Draft a player this year that’s going to be here 10 plus years. Gurley and AP etc are great backs whose teams win 5 games a year until recently for AP and now he is almost done in his career.

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2016 7:29 am
Reply to  daggolden

All these arguments/points about not taking a RB in the 1st Round are logical and make sense, but here’s a couple of points to counter that

– Sport Franchises from Ownership to Front Offices, CoachingStaffs, Players to the Fans do not have long term horizons for reaching their Goals…owner Lurie has specifically stated that he wants to build a Team to Compete and Win now

– GM Roseman/Coach Pederson don’t have 5-7-10 Years to put together a Winner..Would these guys rather have an explosive, top Player at their Position (RB Elliot) who can help the Team right away in 2016 and be very effective over a the next 3-5 Years rather than simply a good Player for 8-10 Years

– History says this, History says that about which Position to Select early on in the Draft.. The Reality of 2016 is that this is not a very deep Draft at all for Offensive Playmakers and the Eagles are very Thin at RB/WR Positions to begin with.. It’s also known that QB Sam Bradford is not a down the field passer nor are the Eagles outside WR’s down the field threats… How does anyone expect this 2016 Offense to keep Defenses honest and to sustain Drives and put points on the Board toWin Games?? It will be by having a dynamic run game in which explosive plays, runs or play action Passes off of,can develop
This is unlikely to occur with a Ryan Matthews/Darren Sproles Tandem
In fact RB Ryan Matthews is publicly on the Trade Market so who has confidence in him even being around past Draft Weekend….
Past Trends and Analysis of what other Teams have done mean very little for me for all I am concerned about is the 2016 Eagles Team to Win Games and
Looking at the Top 10 Players on most Boards, RB Elliot at #8 helps this Offense and Team the most in 2016 by far.. It’s not even close
You play to Win the Games!!!

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 16, 2016 7:52 am
Reply to  paulman

So if he helps the teams win the most games this year then why do you draft stanley if he is still on the board???? flip…..flopping yet again?
If you believe what you say then it doesn’t matter if stanley is on the board, YOU take Eliott — stick to your guns man

daggolden
daggolden
March 16, 2016 8:17 am
Reply to  paulman

So then paulman what your saying is the Eagles should do what is illogical and doesn’t make sense?

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2016 8:54 am
Reply to  daggolden

The more I think about it, the more the Eagles should take RB Elliot at #8 regardless if OT Ronnie Stanley is on Board
They can select a Future RT in the 3rd Round since Lane Johnson will shift to LT after Peters is gone… Elliot helps them win Ballgames in 2016
Stanley likely doesn’t even see the field as a Starter in 2016 unless they switch him to Guard for the Season or unless an Injury occurs or unless Eagles Release Jason Peters after the Draft and make Stanly the day #1 Starter at RT and move Lane Johnson to Starting LT which could be the Teams plan…

New Mock for 2016 Eagles Draft

#8 – RB Ezekial Elliot – Ohio State 6-0 225lbs (Day 1 Starting RB – Rookie of the Year)
#77 – DT Chris Jones – Miss State 6-6 310lbs (Rotational DT-Future Starter)
#79 – Guard Landon Turner – UNC 6-4 330lbs (Future Starting Guard – 2017)
#100 – OT Joe Haeg – N Dakota St 6-6 305 (Future RT – 2017)
#153 – WR C Peake – Clemson 6-2 210lbs (Raw but Upside)
#164 – QB B Dougherty – Western Ky 6-3 218lbs (3rd String to Develop)
#188 – RB K Marshall – Georgia 5-11 220lbs (Depth at RB)
#233 – FB D Watt – Wisconsin 6-3 235lbs (Yes a FB and JJ’s Brother)
#251 – ILB J Forrest – Kentucky 6-3 249lbs (ILB Depth & Special Teams)

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2016 8:58 am
Reply to  paulman

Eagles Starting OL in 2017

LT Lane Johnson, LG Landon Turner, Center J Kelce, RG Brandon Brooks
and RT Joe Haeg …..

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 16, 2016 9:21 am
Reply to  paulman

now stick to that plan fraudman– STICK TO IT– no waffling!

daggolden
daggolden
March 16, 2016 9:35 am
Reply to  paulman

The Von Millers and JJ Watts of the world play over the RT. You better have 2 premium tackles in this day and age. So yes Stanley is important. While Elliott may be good for 5-6 years we will have 2 young bookends for the next 10-12 years. You do the math.

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2016 10:47 am
Reply to  daggolden

Peters Days as an All-Pro are over with… He’s played a lot of Great Years, and lots of Games and has Battled like the Warrior he is.. But Father Time waits for no one and his legs & back are failing his body and he’s simply not the Player he was 2-3 Years ago as its unrealistic to expect to him be after 12 Seasons in the NFL …

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2016 1:51 pm
Reply to  daggolden

and even with that diagnosis he will still be an All Pro, and Pro Bowler again with a bounce back year.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2016 10:35 am
Reply to  paulman

No…..That whole lineup of prospects other than Jones, and Turner, is nothing but more mediocrity – including Elliott, who you are overrating.

and get outta here with Joe Haeg as a starter….

Oh, and I hear the Eagles are considering bringing in Josh Gordon, and it makes sense. It would open up things for the TE’s, the running game, and the other receivers – because defenses would have to respect his abilities.

No WR you would want to bring in would be able to do that – NONE

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2016 10:39 am
Reply to  paulman

Jason Peters will be an All Pro, and Pro Bowler again, and Lame Johnson will not again Paul. ….Get used to it…

I know you want to cut Peters, but he is still our best lineman even after an off year – which I think he just didn’t want to play for Chip – But Lame can’t hold his deodorant

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 16, 2016 1:09 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

which Cliff lie is the most ridiculous.
A) diagnosed with a terminal diabetic illness 3 years ago.
B) stroke 2 years ago
C) Rotatory Cuff surgery 4 and 1 years ago
D) Knee surgery decades ago
C) birth of new baby girl this year
D) Worked as a scout for St Louis Rams
E) put up for adoption 3 male college division 1 basketball players
F) Has 13 children
G) autistic child is a gold medal special Olympian in basketball
H) Daughter is a super model
I) Played college basketball at University of Illinois
J) Graduated from Florida A& I
K) Graduated from Johnson and Wales
L) Has a house in Charlotte on the golf course
M) currently Is taking lead as chaperon in the recruitment of a Clemson Football recruit while the child’s mother & father stay home trusting Cliff to handle everything.
There is about 30 more of these bullshit lies but these are some of his greatest hits

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2016 1:46 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

E0S, We’ll leave that for you to deal with…..

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2016 1:52 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

wow cliff

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2016 1:53 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

busy life eh

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 16, 2016 2:26 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I have been trying to figure out how it would benefit gmcliff to lie to us about any of that information. People don’t normally lie about having a stroke, diabetes, knee surgery, etc….

All I can say is, I hope you are feeling better Cliff…

mhenski
mhenski
March 16, 2016 2:31 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

i dont know either irish. dont know if cliff really said he was a scout with the rams but if he did google disagrees

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2016 2:40 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Very Good Irish; a man with common sense….I continue to listen to my doctors Irish, take my meds, and follow through with occupational therapy. Thank you for you concern brother.

Also, as men – We do have the ability to reproduce – Most of us anyway. My Eight month old is doing great, and just started to crawl, and my Autistic son is the only 3rd grader in Delaware being taught Calculus, and is learning Swahili as part of his curriculum now. Very Proud of him as well

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2016 2:44 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Here is another question Irish, and Big Mhenski.

Why would another man be obsessed with another man life, and family so much to make it his topic for conversation, and valuable time????

and still be wrong….

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2016 2:52 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

and just for the record, I have 8 children, and Graduated from Florida International.

and yes my Nephew, and I will be traveling to visit Clemson next month – That was solidly proven.

His jealousy is his to deal with, so just ignore him….

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 16, 2016 3:11 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

IrishEagle -Just the kind of trusting guy I’ve been looking for to invest on a great deal on some shares for an established revenue producing bridge in Brooklyn if your interested. ( Cash money only).

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 16, 2016 3:25 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

eagles0superbowls, No thanks man! I don’t trouble myself with other people’s business, but mine I take very seriously…. lol

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 16, 2016 5:32 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Ap just got a quarterback that’s not his fault. It’s not these great backs fault they play for teams who don’t know how to build a winner

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2016 6:31 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

I think the big key to NFL RB’s is to use them up by the end of their rookie Deals..you have to get these Backs out of College for they only have this 3-4-5 Top Years before the bumps/bruises slow them down..
Very few get better as they age like Emitt Smith or John Riggins did..
Get thrmYoung out of College and use them up before their bodies start breaking down (LeSeasn McCoy, Arian Foster, Chris Johnson, Jamall Charles, M Lynch even only had 4 peak years…)
Eagles should get Rliot and use him. For 3-4 Tears and the replace him when his Rooki Deal comes up
Never sign a Free-Agent Veteran RB to a long term deal for they are already spent and used up .. Let’s see how Matt Forte does with the Jets..D Nurray with Titans, etc,etc

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 16, 2016 7:55 pm
Reply to  paulman

That’s true, I’m at the point with this draft the Eagles are going to get a really good player. That’s really all that matters, we all have our personal favorites. But at 8 they really can’t screw this up that’s the good thing.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 16, 2016 3:27 pm

GMCliff – great create a youtube video of the whole trip to Clemson, start from you house to the airport then the hotel check-in then the glad handing with Clemson Head Coach. Love to see it. Can’t wait to see Dabo Swinney and Cliff Dorsey together in the video.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 16, 2016 3:35 pm

why wait until Clemson, GMCliff – youtube a video of that diploma from Florida A&I, show those surgery scars in the video and zoom that camera over a few nostalgia pictures from your St Louis Ram days?

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
March 16, 2016 4:02 pm

You make my day going at that dude….

Everyone has got to admit that the
E0S vs GMCliff Saga is waaayy better than Kool vs Vinnie

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 16, 2016 4:12 pm
Reply to  Gotta Luv It

It is way more fun. I like cosmic cliff…he is definitely “out there”.
Guy must make a boat load of cash having child support for 8 kids spread throughout the country!
My one big doubt about cliff is if he were a professional scout in the nfl he would not rip current professionals the way he does. He would offer insight into why decisions are made, he would not propose lopsided deals etc…or maybe that’s why he is an “X” scout

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
March 16, 2016 5:03 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Whats funniest to me is WHY do we all know this about a poster on a blog….
Everyone else knows little if anything about the other posters on here..LMAO

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 16, 2016 5:00 pm
Reply to  Gotta Luv It

Vinny and koolbreeze argue about football stuff, for the most part… eagles0~ and gmcliff go at it over personal stuff… I find it distasteful… lol

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2016 6:31 pm

I’m sorry do you think I need to prove something to you?? Do you really feel I care what you think.

It wouldn’t matter, because you would still continue with your gibberish.

I already copied the airline confirmation, and you were still in doubt – hilarious

Like I said that is your problem to deal with. So eat your heart out you jealous dingbat…..that’s you, Gotta Luv It, or anyone else you want to pose as

And Ciggy, anytime you want to prove your better…step up….always talking, and never displaying any real knowledge of anything – just critical of others, but can’t look in the mirror, and ask himself, ” How come I can’t offer anything of substance, and what I suggest, or predict come to fruition??”

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
March 16, 2016 7:21 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

GMCliff, I would ignore anyone that addresses your personal life. You don’t have to prove anything to anybody… That’s my opinion, for what it’s worth.

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2016 8:05 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

I agree.. Life is way too short.. Having Fun, Busting Balls. Calling each other out on Calls, Predictions, Prospects, Mocks etc, etc is all fine but the personal baloney is just that, baloney…
Anyways on a side note and bet opportunity for GMCliff
How about a Gentlemans Bet about Jason Peters for 2016
You say he Returns to All-Pro/Pro-Bowl Status , I say he doesn’t
I bet you a Clemson Hoodie..

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2016 10:09 pm
Reply to  paulman

You got it Paul…lol…

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2016 10:14 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Actually I do hope Peters bounces back to All-Pro Status for that would mean he and the Team would be having a Good Season…
You can Pencil LT Tyron Smith of the Cowboys for the Best LT In the NFL
I hate the Cowboys, but that dude is a stud

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 17, 2016 12:30 am
Reply to  paulman

Nah,…………Joe Thomas – That’s who you replace Peters with – not Lame

Duane Brown, Terron Armstead, and Trent Williams are candidates for that title as well.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 16, 2016 10:11 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

I appreciate that Irish, thank you brother..

For the most part I just ignore him, and his multiple personalities, but there are time I allow myself to get sucked in – but it is good to know there are still a lot more good people on GCobb, than people like him.

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 17, 2016 9:14 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Cosmic cliff, the JWs left a pamphlet on my door the other day inviting me to some sort of festival or something… maybe it was you who knocked on my door– if you ever do, trust me I will invite you in with open arms– I will however insist we do not talk religion-
I do offer suggestions on personnel quite often however JUST LIKE YOU I don’t watch a ton of tape on individual guys– what I do is try to see who projects around the eagles pick and watch some youtube stuff etc.– i’ve already stated who i wanted and I’m not going to give a list of 100 guys so i can crow about being right.
as for trades- I recognize that it takes two to tango and don’t propose whackado trade scenarios which is fine BUT YOU after the draft say “if they had done what I proposed” like it would have been a real possibility… stupid

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 17, 2016 9:48 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Ciggy would you have believed that Byron Maxwell, and DeMarco Murray could have ben traded for the deals the Eagles got before they happened??

They were very similar to the unrealistic deals that you criticized, however…..they happened. It only takes one sucker team desperate enough to make it work.

I think that’s great you got your invitation to the celebration of the memorial of Christ Death!! You should think about attending.

I think if I ever sat down and had a conversation with you Ciggy outside of religion, I think you, and I would probably enjoy each others company, and enjoy a beer or two as well….

or a glass of wine in my case, I can’t drink certain alcohol – even in moderation with my medication, but I occasionally can have a glass of wine.

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 17, 2016 9:50 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Or even Chandler Jones being traded to the Cards for Cooper, and a 2nd round pick….anything is possible, no matter how unrealistic it may seem to be…

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 17, 2016 10:02 am
Reply to  gmcliff

yes i absolutely could see something like those trades (not that i predicted them)– but really those teams didn’t give up picks– a simple 5 spots and i think the other was like 13 spots in round 4… minimal change-
Im a wine guy too these days cliff-
I will continue to enjoy your posts and call BS when appropriate!

gmcliff
gmcliff
March 17, 2016 11:32 am
Reply to  haveacigar

I’ll tell you Ciggy, most on here couldn’t especially Paulman, who said it was impossible for Murray top be traded, so the trading of Maxwell in the minds of most wasn’t even close to realistic. But you are a visionary, so that’s good on your part.

Try these wines Ciggy –
1. 2012 Sleepy Creek Vineyards Three Amigos Blend
2. MacMurray Ranch 2009 Santa Lucia Highlands Pinot Noir
3. Nick Bulleid MW & Mike de Garis, Reisling 2013

You’ll love them

paulman
paulman
March 17, 2016 12:14 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I would have never Predicted or Thought that any NFL Team (GM) would be Interested enough to Trade Assets for RB DeMarco Murry and CB Byron Maxwell under their Current Contracts that they had with the Eagles..
And this was 2 Different Teams and 2 Different Deals and Trades with 2 Different GM’s so Hats off to Howie Roseman who not only got these Players and their bloated Contracts out of Philly, but got some Assets (Higher Draft Pick Positions) back in Return … I don’t know what the Dolphins or Titans were thinking, but that’s their Problem and maybe Murray and Maxwell/Alonso will flourish for their New Teams …

I would have lost the Farm betting on this which is why I don’t Bet…

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 17, 2016 1:00 pm
Reply to  paulman

I don’t think those trades were as one sided as some do– when examined i thougnht they were reasonable on both sides— mainly because by swapping picks the dolphins and titans still have the rights to draft in that round…so they will get a similar player to what they would have gotten anyway…

daggolden
daggolden
March 17, 2016 2:22 pm
Reply to  paulman

Well everyone in the football world said they were phenomenal trades from scouts to GMs to everyone. But hey if you don’t think they were one sided who is to argue with your assessment.

mhenski
mhenski
March 17, 2016 3:43 pm
Reply to  paulman

moving from 13 to 8 is the equivalent of a 2nd round pick. id say thats a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge ripoff for the former juice head that cant play without juice and that scrub maxwell

haveacigar
haveacigar
March 17, 2016 4:11 pm
Reply to  paulman

13 to 8 is a 250 point jump which equates to a high three. A very nice trade but in reality IF maxwell was just a victim of the eagles terrible offensive and defensive philosophies and can play it will be fair for the dolphins…. They are probably banking on a comeback year from Kiko… It is a potential ripoff but I think both teams got what they want …the Murray trade was about a 30 point jump.. Eagles accomplished their goal dumped salary, got some value…it’s a win

paulman
paulman
March 16, 2016 10:49 pm

**Patriots Trade****
NE Pats trade their 2016 4th Round Pick to the Chicago Bears for enigmatic but talented TE Marcellus Bennet & the Bears 2016 6th Rd Pick as Bill Belicheck continues to fine tool their Roster
Yesterday the Traded DE Chandler Jone to the Cardinald for Guard Jonathon Cooper and their 2nd Round Pick
C Jones had that bizarre incident after New Years of smoking Synthetic Werk and showing up naked at a local Boston a Hospital with little to no recollection of what happened so no surprise that NE Pats traded hi plus next year is Rookie a Contract is up and he will be a Free-Agent and command big $$$ for his pass-rushing skills
Pats went out and Signed stand up guy DE Chris Long who was cut by the Rams in a Salary Cap move… Watch Long have 10 Sacks for the Pats in 2016..

mhenski
mhenski
March 17, 2016 9:32 am
Reply to  paulman

Pats they always doing big things. essentially traded chandler jones and a 4th rounder for bennet, a 6th, chris long, cooper and a 2nd. power moves. bennett paired with gronk is gonna be filthy.

paulman
paulman
March 17, 2016 2:12 pm

I forgot to list my Final 4 Picks for the NCAA Tourney

East Bracket – Kentucky
MIdwest Bracket – Mich State
South Bracket – Kansas
West Bracket – Texas A & M

Championship Game – Mich State over Kansas (79-72)
Denzel Valentine – NCAA Tourney MVP –