When the Tennessee Titans made the trade with the LA Rams this past week, I asked myself, what kind of compensation could the Eagles get for pick #8? With the Titans now loaded with multiple picks in round two and three, would they want to move from pick #15 to pick #8?
Now, whether or not the Eagles would trade down in the first round remains unlikely. After the trade with Miami, Howie Roseman went on record with how the Eagles have identified their “top 10” and with being at pick #8 they are in great position to get a tremendous football player that can help the team. Additionally, multiple reports sited the Eagles for their offer to move up to the first overall pick, and there are still rumors that the team would be interested in a possible trade with the Cleveland Browns for that second overall pick to draft the “franchise quarterback.”
I’m on record with who I want at pick #8, I feel that the Eagles need immediate help with an offensive play-maker and Ezekiel Elliott fits that role. The Eagles may feel running back is an area they could address in the mid rounds, and opt to go offensive tackle Ronnie Staley (Notre Dame) or cornerback Vernon Hargreaves (Florida).
Neither Staley or Hargreaves would have a great chance to provide immediate impact from a player drafted in the top ten. The Eagles do need to identify their tackle of the future, but it doesn’t need to come in round one of the 2016 draft, Jason Peters is still on the roster.
As for Hargreaves, he has a lot of traits that makes him appealing, but the Eagles currently have a lot of depth at the cornerback position. The argument could be made that with so many young players with minimum starting experience (Rowe, Watkins, Rice, Evans, Shepherd,) to go along with veterans like Carroll, McKelvin and Brooks, the Eagles have enough bodies that need to be given their shot that that the team could get away without drafting a cornerback in the upcoming draft.
So if not Elliott as a playmaker out of the backfield, what about the receiver position? The wide receivers with first round grades are slated to go in the mid to late part of round one. The Eagles could certainly benefit from a player that possesses game changing speed. Corey Coleman (Baylor) and Will Fuller have that kind of ability.
If the Eagles were to make a trade, possibly trading with the Titans for pick #15, according to the point value chart referenced by NFL teams, the return for the Eagles would be one of the Titans second round picks (they own picks 33, 43 and 45).
Would that be “enough” for Eagle fans?
At pick #15, Jack Conklin (Michigan State) could still be there for those fans who insist offensive tackle is the biggest position of need. Sure at pick #15, it would be a reach to take quarterback Paxton Lynch (Memphis), but Pederson may see a player that could be the face of the franchise after sitting for a year or two and learning from Bradford and Daniels.
Worst case scenario, the Eagles take one of the speed receivers mentioned, and with the second round pick they obtained from the Titans, they have a top 50 pick to get another position of need.
And if the Jets really want Lynch and offer pick #20 for pick #15, and the Eagles could pick up a third round pick in the process, one of the wide receivers will still be there.
All of the trading back is purely hypothetical, and so is the notion that after a year of being locked away, the return of Howie Roseman is equipped with an improved judgement in talent.
Compensation of draft picks from an analytic stance, would allow the Eagles to draft more players which increases their chances of finding talent. The downside, the Eagles didn’t hire anybody new to help identify talent; Howie Roseman is as involved as he has ever been.
The draft rumors will certainly continue between now and when the draft begins on Thursday April 28th at 8pm. If the Eagles are approached to trade out of pick #8, what would it take for you to feel like they received enough compensation wise?
I am hearing the Titans, now at #15 after Deal with the Rams, want to move back up in the Draft to get one of the 2 Top OT’s..
If Ronnie Stanley is on the Board at #8 which I believe he will, the Eagles should Trade back with the Titans and get their #15 Pick & #45 Pick (2nd Round) in the 2016 Draft and also a 3rd or 4th Round in the 2017 Draft
Eagles would then have the Following 5 Picks in the Top 100
(#15,#42,#77,#79 & #100) which would be a nice Start to rebuild the Offense in getting a QB, OL,RB all to groom for the future in the likeness that HC Pederson & Co are looking for
Can’t trade out of #8 unless ur getting someone’s 1 this year and next year, and their 2nd this year period.
And no ur not getting a qb that can play/start in the NFL after wentz goff and it would be awfully dumb to waste a pick in the 1st 3 or 4 rounds this year on a project #3 qb that will never pan out. This team is devoid of talent all over the place , no projecTs!!!!!
Eagles would get the Titans 1st Rounder (#15) & 2nd Rounder (#43rd or #45th) in this 2016 Draft and then the Titans 3rd Rounder in 2017 Draft is my Trade
Stay at 8 and take best player available if there is no trade up or selection of a qb. There will be more drafts after this year so no need to trade quality for quantity. I like watching the Eagles get new players..but I prefer players projected more highly than getting numerous middling players. Please…no Hack Conklin…he can not pass protect…the Jack Conklin fascination is laughable..he is just a guy…nothing special.
I would prefer that they keep the 8th pick and take the best player available.
I think Doug Pederson is totally comfortable with Bradford or Chase Daniel as the starting quarterback. So I don’t see them taking a quarterback in round 1, unless it’s a guy they rate highly… If they have Lynch or Goff rated in the top 10 grab him if he’s there. Otherwise, take the best player….
If QB’s go #1 & #2 as Expected
Then at 8, the Eagles are looking at RB Elliot, OT Stanley , DL Buckner
Or one the Top CB’s (Hargreaves, Apple, Houston)
Some Pass-Rushers DE S Lawson, K Dodd, n Spence, J Floyd) will all be there too
I would go offensive or defensive line, or defensive backfield before I would pick E.Elliot with the 8th pick.
Nothing against Elliot, I thing he will be good, but it’s harder to fine those other positions later in the draft.
*harder to find*
A couple of things to take into account
1) There are not many top notch RB’s in this Draft who can step in 2016 and be productive, most Scouts believe RB Elliot will make an impact his Rookie Season
2) This is a very Deep Draft at DT & DL in general and there will be some good DL Prospects available in the 3rd Round when the Eagles have 2 Picks
I think the Eagles need to Target DT with box Cox & Logan being Free-Agents after the 2016 Season
Plus a final note is how unproven this current Eagles RB Corp is now , besides Sproles who is a 3rd Down Scat Back, but can anyone trust that Ryan Matthews even remains an Eagle and if he does, can he play a full season and handle the Ball 16-20 Times every Game Week in and Week out??
So based on Current Eagles RB Corp’s, the Selection of a Top Level RB is more critical to the Success of the 2016 Eagles than probably any other Player that the Eagles canSelect at #8
and when it comes to Elliott – Most Scouts are wrong……
Elliot is a much more polished All-around RB that Trent Richardson was coming out.. Elliot canBlock and Catch the Ball out of the Backfield and Richardson played behind 4 Alabama OL that were Drafted into the NFL and were a much more dominant group that what Ohio State had which none ofthismeans Elliot will be abonafide Star inthe NFL but to compare the two is simplistic and too easy too do just because they happened to be the Top RB’s of their Class
Richardson actually had a nice Rookie Seasonbut he can lazy,dumb & unmotivated once he got the big Contract as a Top 2-3 Pick of the Draft and it also didn’t help his cause landing in Cleveland where they have gone thru HC & new Schemes & QB’s about every Season lately
Richardson ended up aBust because he didn’t want it bad enough OT didn’t work hard enough.. Elliot appears to be more mature in this regard and aspires to be a great back which is what you like to hear from a kid coming into the NFL
This scenario has been discussed for months. It would be great to get more than a 2nd, but that’s what the charts call for and I’m sure Howie would love to get that #2 back. If TN is desperate they may throw in a 3rd or 4th as Paulman suggests (I’m sure Howie will ask), but unless TN is desperate, I think they only offer a 2. Chip on the other hand would probably give them our # 8 and next year’s 2nd for their #15 and 34. Idiot!
I agree with you Paulman, I would love for the Eagles to trade out of the #8 spot with the Titans and pick up the #15 pick, and either the Titans #43 or #45. I’m on the fence with the Eagles moving up to the #2 spot with the Browns. If Goff or Wentz turn out to be busts, then the Eagles could be in serious trouble for years to come. Let’s solidify our line first, and let Bradford show us what he can do. The only player I can see the Eagles taking at the #8 spot is Zeke. If not, then entertain moving back and picking up more draft picks. It’s the most logical move I think the Eagles can make with having multiple areas of need..
ESPN’s Bill Polian says he wouldn’t touch Ole Miss OT Tunsil because of off field red flags. What did Tunsil do… Drugs, domestic violence, bar room brawler? I want an OT at # 8 but if Tunsil is loco maybe not. Hoping birds grab Tunsil or Stanley then trade Jason Peters during training camp for a future draft pick.
Nicely said DMAN.
Trading back is never a bad idea. But I have a feeling they moved up for a player of their choosing that Howie had ranked as a game changer.
Draft elliot with your top pick, and solidify that OLINE with your first third rounder. Go DT with ur 2nd pick in the 3rd. Or vise versa.
Build a running game and a oline around sam and see what ur can do for the first time in his career. People like to say sam has a .390 winning percentage like he was the only player on the team.
Better to say ” the st louis rams winning percentage was .390, then one players.
Preach and coach Smash Mouth football.
In next years draft add alot more talent to the defensive side of the ball and a piece or 2 to the oline.
If we help out our Qb for once and give the man some talent to work with we will surprise some people.
Everyone had Dallas sucking 2 years ago and washington finishing in the basement last year .
Now everyone has us only wining 5 games LOL
this is what I read about L Tunsil , that he was out Partying with Troubled DT Robert Nkimdiche, who fell out of a 2nd Floor Hotel Balcony and ended up getting arrested for underage Drinking and Tunsil was staying at the Hotel with Nkimdiche but that he first lied that he was not even there and then Nkimdiche admitted who was all there,including Tunsil while at the Indy Combine after Tunsil had lied in some Team Interviews when asked about it…
that’s it? He didn’t drink enough to make a fool out of himself like DT Robert Nkimdiche. I have a bigger problem what OT Jason Peters did on the Eagles last season than OT Tunsil. Peters quit on Chip Kelly and publicly told journalists that he isn’t playing hurt while the Eagles were fighting for the Division in the last quarter of the season.
That’s the only thing negative I’ve read on Tunsil, but I believe some are pissed or dissapointed because he lied about even being there let alone being an active participant ..
Many times it’s not the Act itself that raises flags, it’s how a person responds to it and apparently he didn’t handle it truthfully and lied when it wasn’t even necessary to do so..
A Few More Incidents with Tunsil EHL
He was Arrested for Punching out his Step Father where Tunsil states he was simply protecting his Mother.. His step-Father ended up getting a Restraining Order on Tunsil
Tunsil was Suspended 6 Games for illegally accepting Gifts (Vehicles,Clothes, etc,etc) while at Ole Miss
3 Separate Injuries, Boken Fibula, Bicep Injury and hamstring INjury has Caused Tunsil to miss some Games …
per Some Scouts, the Pattern of Lying and not being Accountable for his Actions is what has Team’s Concerned and there is Talk that he may Drop down the Big Board..
While there is no way the best OT in the draft (which is the 2nd most important position on a team) falls to #8, but if he does, the Eagles have to draft him.
The Eagles need a homerun threat…someone on offense that constitutes the defense pay attention to…a deep threat wide receiver, an explosive running back
Elliot would pay off instant dividends to our offense and provide us with some spark. GM Cliff comparing this kid to Trent Richardson is way off…this kid has the instincts and vision..
Lets face it…the Eagles need some impact players with talent…Elliot would be the most talented player Sam Bradford has had to work with throughout his entire career…give him a chance by putting some bonafide talent around him…
Elliot would be the most talented player Sam Bradford has had to work with throughout his entire career…give him a chance by putting some bonafide talent around him…
I don’t know about that – Steven Jackson averaged well over 1000 yards a season – and over 50 receptions a season for Bradford’s first three years in the league. Jackson’s game fell off after he left the Rams… He was a stud RB with the Rams…
Bradford would benefit much more from a strong offensive line then he would from a rookie running back splitting time with two other backs.
I see Elliot like a Ronnie Brown type. Ronnie Brown was the 2nd overall pick in 2005… They are very similar players…..
Steven Jackson was a good, solid running back. But not the kind of game breaking playmaker that Elliot potential would give Bradford.
Steven Jackson was a good, solid running back. But not the kind of game breaking playmaker that Elliot potential would give Bradford.
Elliot will be lucky to be half as good as Steve Jackson… Jackson was both bigger, and faster than Elliot….
Jackson is one of only six backs in NFL history to have over the 1,000-yards rushing in eight consecutive seasons.
Jackson had over 10,000 yards rushing for the Rams. To put that in perspective for you – LaSean McCoy is the Eagles all-time leader with 6,700 in 6 years… In Jackson’s first 6 years as a Ram he ha 6700 yards…. Both had 40+ TDs in 6 years…Was McCoy any good?
Sam Bradford had one of the leagues top running backs his first three years in the league…. So you saying over and over that Bradford never had a game changer at RB is stupid…
Steven Jackson was a flat out stud, do not diminish his ability or what he did to fit in your narrative that Bradford had no game changing players around him in St Louis.
Also, Elliot has done nothing in the NFL, so how are you saying he will be such a game changer for the Eagles and Bradford? You’re the one who says that you can’t compare pro and college players…apples to oranges, steaks to flounder and all of that..but you are doing it here. Steven Jackson has done it in the NFL, Elliot has done nothing. You’re contradicting yourself when it comes to your philosophy and narratives regarding college and pro players. Jackson has done it in the NFL, Elliot has had a nice college career, but, he’s done or proven nothing in the NFL. I don’t want to hear the excuse of oh well rb’s and qb’s are different. Your philosophy is do not compare college and pro players and their production or ability. Stay consistent with your argument, don’t flip flop it to meet your narrative and/or argument. Hypocrisy.
I like Elliot, but I am not going to say he will be better than Steven Jackson, that’s foolish as Elliot has not taken one NFL snap yet.
“Also, Elliot has done nothing in the NFL, so how are you saying he will be such a game changer for the Eagles and Bradford? You’re the one who says that you can’t compare pro and college players…apples to oranges, steaks to flounder and all of that..but you are doing it here. Steven Jackson has done it in the NFL,”
Is this serious inquiry, EHL…for real? Here you go again…you cant put a single thing in context so that you can come up with a logical argument.
You are always making illogical comparisons that make no sense at all:
1. Steven Jackson had been in the league for six years by the time Bradford was a rookie QB. He had already taken a serious pounding. He averaged 3.8 yards per carry in Bradford’s rookie year. What’s so special about that???
With that said…I didnt say that Jackson was a bum, that he stunk…I said, Jackson- by his six year in the league was a very good running- but not nearly the dominate force that he was from 2004 to 2009 when he consistently averaged over 4 yards per carry.
2. Elliot is by the vast majority of accounts an elite talent and he’s healthy. It is much easier to be right about a running back than it is a QB because there is so much more that goes into playing QB than RB! In ‘comparing’ him to Jackson, I think a young Eliot maybe as nearly good as a runner as a young Jackson (who Bradford DID NOT play with) and a better pass catcher.
Again we are talking RUNNING BACKS, who get worn down over time…as opposed to Quarterbacks who normally get better with experience!!!
EHL, I have been very consistent. Last year I considered Jameis Winston a cant miss QB prospect…and as I stated if we were talking about getting him as opposed to Jared Goff…I would say bye-bye Bradford.
However, when you are talking about prospects that are not close to ‘cant miss prospects’, who have a greater probability of failing there is a much different evaluation process. It is far easier to evaluate a Quarterback who has played against NFL defenses than to project how well a rookie QB like Wentz will be in the NFL. It is also much easier to evaluate a running back for the NFL level than it is a Quarterback!!
EHL, Irish Eagle…you guys are grasping for straws…stop it!!
steven jacksons production dipped that year because sam was a rookie and defenses forced him to beat them and stacked the box against him .
EHL, Irish Eagle…you guys are grasping for straws…stop it!!
There’s no need for me to grasp for anything. I have facts on my side.
It is a fact that Sam Bradford played his first three years with one of the NFLs top running-backs.
You can call a 27 year-old pro bowl running back with 1624 yards from scrimmage in 2010 (Bradford’s rookie year) “nothing special”, but that just makes you sound like a fool…
Like I said, there is a very small chance that Elliot could duplicate for the Eagles, what Jackson did in 2010 for the Rams. So, saying Bradford never had anyone as good as Elliot is ridiculous….
No you guys, nobody can be any good on any team that Sam Bradford is on except for Sam Bradford. Cripes, can’t believe you forgot that.
What revisionist history here. Steven Jackson was the whole offense on those teams.
Don’t overlook Hargrieves. If you view Ramsey as a Safety,then Hargrieves is graded as the best CB in this draft. Perhaps the key position in JimSchwartz’s defense is CB because he leaves them on their own. While we have a number of average CBs on the current roster, we could really use a stud cover guy. Hargrieves is that guy. If it comes down to choosing between a potential shutdown CB vs a potential stud RB, I think they go CB.
I like the Upside of CB Prospects of Eli Apple (6-1″) & William Jackson (6-0″)
Over Vernon Hargreaves who who goes about 5-10″ and I think he may eventually end up as a Slot CB inthe NFL .. With today’s bigger WR’s, I would rather see longer, taller CB’s on the Eagles
I think William Jackson from the U of Houston may be the best Cover CB and playmaker on the Ball while in flight..
The only thing that gives me pause about Hargraves is his size…otherwise, you cant be disappointed in getting a quality CB. I just think Elliot would give us more bang for the buck! And Sam Bradford needs a game breaking playmaker, he’s never had one!
the best thing they could get for 8 is wentz,wentz,wentz and wentz
I’m almost at 90% that the eagles will trade up to #2 and either get wentz or goff….. everything they have done adds up to them getting a qb in the 1st now if the browns don’t wanna play ball then i think they go elliot or jack, but there#1 option is for qb since they have to backups on the roster
I wonder where Brian Hoyer will land…he got cut
Rumors that the NY Jets may bring him in..
Riley Cooper is still available in Free Agency, along with Demeco Ryans, Walter Thurmond, Brandon Bair, Julien Vandervelde and Miles Austin from last season’s team.
Walt Thurmond apparently had a few offers and turned them down and 1 reportedly was a multi-year nice dollar Offer by either the Giants/Ravens early in Free-Agency.. He says he may retire and focus on his Post Football Career.. He’s making a Documentary now that he says takes up a lot of his time..
Best move Howie could make is draft OT Stanley out of ND or Tunsil out of Ole Miss then trade Jason Peters during training camp for a 2017 draft pick like he did with CB Boykin last year. Gives birds bookend OTs under contract for next 5 seasons and gets another 5th round draft choice in 2017 for Jason Peters.
Agree 100%.
Pdiddy’s first mock ever, please give me feed back. This mock does not involve any trade scenario’s.
Rams-Carson Wentz
Browns-Jarred Goff
Chargers- Laremy Tunsil
Cowboys- Ezekiel Elliott NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jaguars-Myles Jack
Ravens-Ronnie Stanley
49ers-Joey Bosa
Eagles-Vernon Hargreaves
Tampa Bay-Deforest Buckner
Ny Giants-Jack Conklin
I would say that could be spot on…
that is the 1st mock draft I’ve seen that didn’t include FSU DB Ramsey in the top 10.
Dam you right major over sight dam
I just looked at the teams needs but yeah Ramsey is definitely top ten.
my thoughts.
all reports have goff going first. who knows, but theres enough there to believe it. putting out smoke after the trade seems pointless.
i dont see the browns taking a qb at all. they have way too many holes and i huge need at tackles. i see absolutely no way they pass on tunsil unless they trade out of 2 but you said no trades so i say tunsil is #2 pick
i see chargers taking buckner #3
ravens have a lot of needs on D – i see them going there over tackle
One thing I do agree with on your mock draft is the Cowboy taking E.Elliot at four.
I have never seen Jerry Jones passing-up a chance to take the drafts best offensive (WR & RB) player…
i agree eagle but their D is hurting and they are desperate for playmakers on D. think morris is a nice back behind that line but romo does like to throw to rbs and he isnt a pass catcher. i pray they dont get elliot
the Eagles defense lacks playmakers too,– they added one starter in McLeod at Safety and a bunch of reserves off Buffalo’s roster ( Bradham, Brooks, McKelvin)
eagles are looking playmakers in all phases of the team. qb, rb, wr, de, cb especially.
peters needs his replacement in the near future but i think the eagles think its not that important for this year as he is on the team still and i think they think adding brooks will stabilize the line…
there isnt a wr worth taking 8th so i see our draft board in order of who could be available at 8 being wentz, elliot, hargreaves, bosa. i think one of those 4 are our pick if we pick 8
Unless Eagles can get QB Wentz, then they will likely go after OT, CB, RB, OLB or DT
RB – A Big Need for 2016 — Ryan Matthews hasn’t played a Full Season since 2011.. Sproles on his last legs as a Scat/Back and his Final Contract Year, Kenjon Barner is Unproven with Ball Security Issues
Some Good RB’s in the MId-Rounds.. There is a Monster RB Class for 2017 if they can get by for 2016 may also be another Option for the Eagles
CB – Carroll & Rowe & McKelvin are Currently the Top 3 with Shepard waiting in the wings.. If Eagles want a Top End CB who can compete as a Starter by 2017, then they will need to Select one with their 1st Pick as they will not be any around come 3rd Round
OLB – With Converting back to a 4-3, the Eagles have B Graham, C Barwin and MSII all no listed as DE’s making their OLB Corp a little light..
Right Now the Eagles have Kendricks,Bradham,Braman as Experienced OLB’s and need to add to their Depth …
OT – Not a Pressing Need for a 2016 Starter but Eagles will have to Replace Peters and Prepare in case of Injury to Peters in 2015
DT – Not a Pressing need for 2016, outside of Rotational Depth but both Fletcher Cox and Bennie Logan are Free-Agents after 2016
Both OT/DT’s Positions have Depth in this Drafat and Good Ones can be Drafted in the 3rd Round ….
CB/OLB are not as Deep, if you want a Good one, you will need to Select one Early and since the Eagles have no 2nd Round Pick, waiting until the 3rd Round for a CB or OLB is like throwing a Dart if you expect a Starter type by 2017..
Cowboys cannot Compete unless they upgrade their Front 7 and their DL in particular.. They lost their Top 2 Pass Rushers from last Season which was very good to begin with and now have no Randy Gregory for the first 4 Games of the 2016 Season and let Greg Hardy walk in Free-Agency
They have 3rd Year DE DeMarco Lawrence and Jeremy Mincey who neither have proven to be every down Players yet…
DC Rod Marinelli’s Scheme is predicated on a good Pass-Rush from the Front 4 and right now, the Cowboys may have the weakest DL in not only the NFC East by far, but perhaps the entire NFL… They Need 2-3 DL/OLB from this Drafted added to their Front 7
They have 3 RB’s under Contract for 2016 (D McFadden, Alferd Morris nad Lance Dunbar as their 3rd Down Scat Back…) They really don’t need a Zeke Elliot and would probably prefer to Trade Back if they can’t get Bosa or Mack who at least one of them should be on the Board
Even DB Jalen Ramsey paired with last Years Top Pick of DB Byron Jones would give the Cowboys a very talented Secondary and the Best in the NFC East
Most LIkley Cowboys Selection
A) LB Myles Jack
B) DL Joey Bosa
C) DB Jalen Ramsey
D) Trade Back with the Titans if OT Laramy Tunsil is on the Board and get
more Picks **** This would be their smartest move*****
Cowboys are shell of a team with Romo out of the lineup. They have tried like 4 backups and each one does nothing. The football is always punted. They have to get a QB. Either they draft Wentz, Goff or Lynch or they go to church every morning and pray Romo brittle’s shoulder doesn’t snap, again. Cowboys should take Lynch #4 if Goff and Wentz are gone.
With that #4 Pick in the 2nd Round, The Cowboys can Draft a Back-Up QB like Connor Cook,Christian Hackleburg, Dak Prescott, Kevin Hogan, etc,etc
They don’t need to address a Back-Up QB with the #4 Overall Pick, they need and will go after a Defensive Playmaker which their Defense desperately needs
no team in the nfl should take lynch in the first round!!!!!!!!!!
paul none of those qbs should get picked in the 2nd round except maybe cook. hogan in the 2nd is flat out dumb as it is more likely he goes undrafted than it is he gets drafted in the first 4 rounds…
I agree from a Talent/Upside wise, but I guarantee at least 2 of the QB’s are gone by the end of the 2nd Round (64th Pick) It happens every Draft
Teams Needing QB’s this Draft Early in this Draft (Within the 1st 2 Rounds) are the Rams, Browns, 49ers,Browns,Jets & Bronco’s & Cowboys
The Eagles don’t technically “need one” but have been on Record stating that they want to Draft a QB to Groom for the Future…
Teams like the Bears,Bills,Redskins,Steelers will likely look to add one in the later Rounds as well
The Philadelphia Daily News’ Les Bowen spoke with an NFL source who deemed UCLA LB Myles Jack’s knee a “time bomb.”
After medical rechecks in Indianapolis, word filtered out that two teams with top-10 picks will not be selecting him due to health concerns. Bowen’s report plays further into that dark narrative, with the reporter relaying from his source that “bone and cartilage [are] starting to break away” from his surgically-repaired right knee. His source believes that it is possible Jack still has some good years left on the knee, but overall, paints a grim picture. It is important to remember that one anonymous source won’t tell the whole story. There are plenty of teams who do not share the same reservations when it comes to Jack, who still has a shot at being drafted within the top-5.
Source: Les Bowen on Twitter
Apr 18 – 12:52 PM
Reports from Indianapolis over the Weekend that the NFL Combine Medical Staff was mixed about his Recovery and Injury Status where some did not sign off that his Knee is good enough structurally to go right now
LB Jaylon Smith of Notre Dame also did no pass his Medical Updates
I stay away from both Players..The Eagles are not good enough to use a High Draft Pick on a Player with the Hopes that they are physically cleared and good to go in 2017 … If you want to use a 6th/7th Round Pick, then Fine but not a Player in the first 5 Round who can actually help the Eagles on the Field in 2016..
I see RB Elliot at #6 to the Ravens at the earliest, or at #8 to the Eagles or #10 to the NY Giants or no later than #13 to the Dolphins who really need a RB the most of the Top 15 Teams in the Draft, (as do the Browns who could Trade back with the Eagles and then Select Elliot) …
The Browns will be Trading Back, some Team will want to move up to get the QB that the Rams don’t Select at #1 ..
I expect the 49ers, Eagles, Broncos and possibly the Jets in discussions with the Browns for the 2nd Overall Pick… The Browns would rather Trade with an NFC Team if possible, but are looking for major assets in return since the Titans set the bar with such a good Deal with the Rams…
To Move to #2, it will cost the 49ers/Eagles their #1, #3,#4 Round Picks for 2016 Draft and a #1 and #4 Round Picks in 2017 Draft
I still think Lynch is going in the top 10, always have. Rams, Browns, Cowboys, 49ers need QBs and the Eagles already tried to trade up for one. Add Bears, Jets and Broncos in need. Paxton Lynch will be drafted very early.
Doug Pederson states during pre-draft presser that he does not feel there is much difference between Wentz and Goff. As it relates to Lynch, Pederson does not believe he is that far behind Wentz or Goff.
Howie stated that in order to take a RB at 8, he would have to be a difference maker. Also, Howie stated that the Eagles did not trade up to 8 just to trade back down into the teens. In order for the Eagles to trade back down they would have to be blown away with an offer.
We’ll see, Paul
Your talking about Jerry Jones… He will not take a QB in round one with all the Cowboys defensive needs… But he can’t help himself when he sees a RB or WR that he likes… That’s the nature of the beast – don’t be surprised if Jerry goes off the reservation over E.Elliot…
Jerry Jones does not call all the shots anymore and hasn’t for the last few Drafts Irish Eagles.. It’s his Son Steven Jones with their Scouting Dept who runs the Draft, now JJ Has final Call but has not over-ruled his Son’s Choice in the last 3 Drafts per Cowboy Reporters and HC Jason Garrett has a lot more input now as well…
Cowboys are Banking with the Return of a healthy Romo that their Offense is in very good shape, they have to fix that Front 7 or they are not going anywhere and even a yahoo like Jerry Jones realizes this
I hope you’re right, Paul. I don’t like the idea of Elliot running behind that OLine of the Cowboys.
Steven Jacksons best year with Sam came in 2010 in Bradfords rookie year where he had 1,241 rushing yards and a 3.8 yard average per Carry. Sam won ROY and nearly got that disgraceful team to the postseason. Sam got hurt the following season when he rushed for barely over a 1000 yards.
Sam had nobody. He had a decent running back with his legs starting to fall off ffrom the pound and he had taken the previous eight years. Steven Jackson was a beast and one the best rams running back ever but when Sam came in the league his time was starting to dwindle.
Stop it. You got to have more on the football team than just the old running back. No offense of line no defense and table on Austin turn his knees rookie year and Danny being hurt a lot was not going to helpand Mendola been hurt a lot was not going to help
Sam had nobody. He had a decent running back with his legs starting to fall off ffrom the pound and he had taken the previous eight years. Steven Jackson was a beast and one the best rams running back ever but when Sam came in the league his time was starting to dwindle.
Sam played 16 games in 2010 – 11 games in 2011 – 16 games in 2012.
Jackson had 1241 yards in 2010 – 1145 in 2011 – 1045 in 2012
Jackson also had over 40 receptions in each of those years..
Fact – Sam had one of the leagues top running backs in his first 3 seasons….
sam had nobody!!! Oh god que the violins and break out the tissues for poor Sam, this guy just can’t catch a break. The same o line that Sam had to play behind, Steven Jackson had to produce behind…but Steven Jackson does not get the benefit of the Sammy excuse train. Yes, Sam got hurt..what else is new?! “Nearly” only counts with horse shoes and hand grenades..no dice..football ultimate team sport though, so someone was helping Sammy “Nearly” get to the post season.
Jackson was drafted in 2004, Sam 2010..6 years..not 8.
Funny how the writing styles between CT, kool, and can’t are so similar….too similar.
Damn ehl u bringing back that crap, if was too much last time
LMAO…hey Z..sorry man, but I do find this ish funny.
Bradford was rookie of the year… haha …. So was Vince Young..
And so were Fat Eddy Lacy, RGIII, Percey Harvin, Cadillac WIlliams, Anthony Thomas and Mike Anderson….to name a few ROY busts of the past 15 years.
Who give a crap if Sideways won ROY 7 seasons ago? I mean seriously? What does it have to do with this year?
Down year for rookies when a guy with 18 tds and 15 ints is the rookie of the year.
I laid this out last week. 2010 was a rookie wasteland. The first 2 rounds of that draft produced a giant pile of nothingness (offence wise).
There were 2 players who should have won the ROY (Dez bryant and Rob Gronk) though even their rookie numbers were not great. Sam was given the award because of his “name” and #1pick/heisman pedigree….not for his mediocre 18-15 (though it can be argued) the rest of the field was so terrible, they had to pick someone.
2010 was a disaster.
On Monday, Howie Roseman put an end to that conversation stating that the Eagles are not trading Cox.
Howie Roseman: “Fletcher Cox is going to be our team. We’re not trading Fletcher Cox.”
— Zach Berman (@ZBerm) April 18, 2016
As for a new contract, Roseman said he is in the “get something done as soon as possible” school of thought.
Howie Roseman on Fletcher Cox’s contract situation: “I’m of the school to get something done as soon as possible for everyone.”
— Josh Paunil (@JoshPaunil) April 18, 2016
Draft Lynch at 8 his upside is better then wentz and goff, he’s a mix of big Ben and cam Newton, let him sit two yrs, and the guy will be ready to take off
Danny Amendola was hurt every week during his time in STL. The man could not stay healthy.
Tavon Austin tore his acl his rookie year.
Pass blocking is a night and day compared to run blocking.
Sam Bradford was atop the league in qb hits, sacks and drops during his days in STL.
He tore his acl twice.
The is a team game. And 1 player can only do so much. The rams defense is way better and talented today then it was 5 years ago.
The seahawks, 49ers at that time, and cardinals were all better teams then STL by far. STL was not winning that divison.
If sam bradford was so awful how come foles couldn’t turn them around? The fact is nobody has been able to since Kurt warner and faulk were there. They have been dysfunctional and have drafted awful up until recently.
If u wanna brag about a Steven Jackson who could barely crack a thousand yards then go ahead. I remember when lesean had 1300 yards rushing 2 years ago and he was having a very up and down season and people were calling him soft because of the great season he had 1 year previously.
1000 yards rushing is nothing special nowadays. Just ask mcfadden.
Sam had no wr worth mentioning, oline, or defense.
Evvery thing I said above is factual.
Rally up sam haters and bring up the .390 winning percentage as if this is tennis or boxing. LMAO
Ok fine. Roll with that. STL is a mess. Got it. They drafted shit WRs, shit RBs, shit OL and their D was shit.
Got it.
But for you QB is untouchable. he was the one brightly shining star in a sea of shit. That what you trying to say??
Why won’t you include QB in that STL mess you describe?? Why are you quick to announce that STL drafted terrible RBs, terrible Wrs, terrible OL…but QB? They hit the jackpot there. He was great, too bad he was surrounded by nothing but dregs.
Please.
This is the exact same thing I heard 50,000 with MV7wins.
Its always everyone else.
Statistically, that doesn’t work.
When an offence, with one QB doesn’t work…..does it really make sense to announce that 40 different guys…5 years worth of olinemen, 5 years worth of wrs, 5 years worth of rbs, 5 years worth of coaches…..they were all terrible. They were all shit. Dozens of shitty players and coaches with one shining star in the middle of it all struggling against the current that was so stacked against him.
Do we really weigh all those changing variable so heavily??
Or do we actually take a look at the one constant in the middle of it all. Every year the players around SamVickBradford change, and every year the results are the same.
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We couldn’t possible look at the constant in the centre of it all….nah…..gotta be the ever changing array of shitty variables he’s had to suffer through for 6 seasons.
Everyone is shit except for one guy.
Please.
“Statistically, that doesn’t work.
When an offence, with one QB doesn’t work…..does it really make sense to announce that 40 different guys…5 years worth of olinemen, 5 years worth of wrs, 5 years worth of rbs, 5 years worth of coaches…..they were all terrible. They were all shit.”
Dumb ass!
Once again, you want badger us with stupid generalities that ignores specific and clear facts. Something was wrong with the Coaching at StL since they repeatedly changed coaches when Bradford was there. How many of those 5 years of offensive linemen have went to other places and played well? Tell us Vinnie who were the stud wide receivers who prospered and became All-Pros when they escaped the incompetence of Bradford?
For you ‘statistical’ argument to hold any water, give us the players who have now prospered since Bradford has gone?
Bullshit…pure bullshit!
One thing we can note is that when Bradford was playing for these sorry Rams teams, the Coaching there didn’t see Bradford’s performance as a reason to bench him. This doesn’t happen until Vinnie’s mancrush Nick Foles gets the job. Then, suddenly the Coaching sees the QB has the problem.
What “stat” covers that Vinnie!
all fair points CT imo. i fucking hate sam not based on his win/loss %, not because of his pathetic career stats, or his injuries. I hate him because of what i watched him do and not do this past year in philly. his game is absolutely awful, he is a huge chicken shit pussy that is scared to death of everything on the field, he has no killer instinct at all, awful pocket awareness, sees ghosts, cant throw receivers open, doesnt throw the ball over 10 yards.
in a high octane chip kelly offense that made nick foles, mike vick and marc sanchez look like solid quarterbacks i watched consistently the worst qb play and offensive drives since doug pederson was qb. sam sucked the life out of the entire stadium on a weekly basis, took hope away from us being anything with him at the helm. every week was just an offensive disaster, by half every week you were like wtf am i watching. and it always burned me that like clockwork he padded his stats and actually took shots and drove the ball downfield when the game was out of reach…our offense this past year was less entertaining than the sixers this year
imo sam is just not talented enough to win in the nfl, if you cant succeed in chip kellys offense you cant succeed in any offense imo.
If u wanna brag about a Steven Jackson who could barely crack a thousand yards then go ahead. I remember when lesean had 1300 yards rushing 2 years ago and he was having a very up and down season and people were calling him soft because of the great season he had 1 year previously.
Steven Jackson rushed for over 1000 yards and had over 40 receptions and over 300 yards receiving in 2010 – 2011 & 2012, Sam’s first 3 years in the league.
Steven Jackson was one of the top running backs in the NFL during Sam Bradford’s first three seasons…. That’s a fact.
Your point has been that the Eagles should draft E.Elliot to give Bradford a good RB for the first time in his career… Well Jackson was a very good RB…. There is every possibility that Elliot will not match what Jackson did in Sam’s first 3 seasons… Especially if he goes to the Eagles and shares carries.
Irish, you might as well stop. You are trying to ague logically with someone who is completely illogical.
New Top #15 NFL Mock Draft (Including Trades)
#1) Rams – QB Carson Wentz (N Dakota St)
#2) 49ers – Trade from Browns – QB Jared Goff (Cal)
#3) Chargers – DB Jalen Ramsey (Fla State)
#4) Titans – Trade from Cowboys – OT Laramy Tunsil (Mississippi)
#5) Jaguars – DE Joey Bosa (Ohio State)
#6) Ravens – DL DeForest Buckner (Oregon)
#7) Browns – OT Ronnie Stanley (Notre Dame)
#8) Dolphins – Trade from Eagles – RB Zeke Elliot (Ohio State)
#9) TB Bucs – DE Shaq Lawson (Clemson)
#10) NY Giants – OT Jack Conklin (Mich State
#11) Bears – OLB Myles Jack (UCLA)
#12) Saints – DT Sheldon Rankins (Louisville)
#13) EAGLES – QB Paxton Lynch (Memphis)
#14) Raiders – CB William Jackson (Houston)
#15) Cowboys – CB Vernon Hargreaves III (Florida)
The Eagles Receive the Dolphins #13 Pick of the 1st Round and their
2nd Round Pick (#42nd Overall) and a 2017 4th Round Pick for Sliding back 5 Spots on the Draft Board…
Eagles Picks
#13 – QB Paxton Lynch (Memphis 6-7 244lbs)
#42 – Guard/Center Nick Martin (Notre Dame 6-4 300lbs)
#77 – DT Javon Hargrave (South Carolina State 6-1 310lbs)
#79 – RB Alex Collins (Arkansas 5-11 220lbs)
#100 – OLB Jordan Jenkins (Georgia 6-3 260lbs)
5) Jaguars –
LMFAO PAXTON LYNCH STOP!!!!!! HIS BEST CASE SCENARIO IS GOING IN THE 20s but that aint even gonna happen
Doug Pederson states that he sees both Wentz and Goff as franchise QB’s. He also said that you do not take Paxton Lynch at 8
yea doug pederson himself called him a guy that cant play now, a project, someone you draft and stash him… thats not someone you take in the top 20 picks. i can some desperate team like the nyj or denver taking him late 1st i guess but he isnt a 1st round talent
That’s your opinion mhenski I see the leadership and killer instinct in Lynch, so I think he has more upside then both wentz and goff, u can put caps on all your words but I believe he will be better then wentz and goff
smokescreen
i based my opinion on the auburn and temple games, yea i didnt see a nfl player… but my opinion is also based on paid professionals that evaluate these prospects for a living, and from doug’s own mouth
Paxton Lynch, no doubt, needs a couple of Years of learning the NFL Game,
He’s the type of Long-Range QB Prospect that Pederson has been talking about since he took the Eagles Job.. One to groom and mold..
Lynch is as Athletic as Carson Wentz and has a very Strong Arm, now he has to learn how to use his arm better and become stronger and more accurate and not bail on the Pocket as quickly
Paxton Lynch is ahead of where Brock Osweiler, Mike Glennon and Nick Foles were when they were coming out of College and started his last 39 Games while at Memphis over a 3 Year Period and set most Passing Records while at Memphis and helped Win a lot of Games while playing for them..
Like most Tall QB’s, Lynch has a long wind-up and passing motion which will need correcting and shortening up as he gets to the Pro Level..
From Most Scouting Reports and Coaches Talk about him is that hes very Coachable, a little bit of a gunslinger mentality with real leadership and huddle skills and toughness that doesn’t shy from contact
Like all Young QB’s, he needs to process coverages and defensive schemes quicker, not stare down Receivers and work within the framework of the Offense.. ..
Teams that are Reportedly High on Paxton Lynch are the Jets, Broncos, Adam Gase in Miami has been mentioned as being very high on him as well as the Bears & Cleveland..
If the Eagles Draft him and he learns for 2 Years behind Bradford/Daniels, then so be it as it could pay for the forward 6-8-10 Years afterwards…
Do Note that Temple Owls had a pretty Good Defense last Year and make a lot of Opponents Offense and QB looked pretty bad… Check out Lynch”s Game versus Old Miss earlier in the Season .. He had a Great Game against a Quality Opponent..
The Conference Memphis Plays in (American Athletic Conference)
has Schools like Conn, Temple,Cincinnati,UCF, USF, Tulsa, Houston, Tulane, SMU
Memphis also Played some pretty good Non-Conference Schools like
Ole Miss in 2014 & 2015, Kansas,Bowling Green UCLA, and then versus BYU and Auburn the last 2 YEars in Bowl Games…
This Years Bowl Loss was not a very good Game by Lynch or the entire Memphis Team as it was already announced that their HC Justin Fuente was leaving Memphis to take the Virginia Tech Job which is not an excuse, but just the way it is…
When you look at all this Competition Paxton Lynch played against versus to what Division II/FCS Carson Went of North Dakota State Played with and against, its not much of a comparison in terms of the better athleticism and a faster speed of the Game to get ready for the ultimate competition at the NFL Level.. ..
Carson Wentz could be a real good QB in the Andrew Luck mold, but its going to take a little time
Paxton Lynch could be a real good NFL QB too.. but he’s going to need more time..
Well there are other professionals who think he will be better or just as good as wentz or goff, I also watched him torch a ole miss team with NFL talent everywhere so we will see in a couple years who will be better, but based on upside alone I believe Lynch will be better but I will say he can’t start right now but goff and wentz more likely could
yea agree maybe he does have the talent and the brain to put it together BUT teams just arent giving up top 10, top 20 picks for a coin flip on whether they can play in the league or not… teams know goff and wentz can play for sure in the league so theyre worth it… im not taking and i dont think most gms would take a guy in the 1st that has upside to potentially start in the league in 2-3 years, just not worth the pick
More quotes from Pederson on Wentz and Goff:
When it comes to the evaluation of Wentz versus Goff, Pederson described the two as “pretty even” and believes both can be franchise quarterbacks, though he seemed to give a slight nod to Wentz in his response.
“From all the physical tools, both of them are extremely gifted there — mobility, obviously Carson is a little bigger, maybe a little better athlete right now but there’s not much separating those two,” he said.
Earlier in the conversation he also referenced the QBs’ size, saying Goff “is probably a little more of the undersized of the three [including Paxton Lynch] at 218 pounds, but I was 218 pounds as a quarterback so I don’t put a lot of merit into weight.”
Wentz checks in at 6-5, 237, and has “everything you want in a quarterback at this level,” according to the head coach.
“I like his size, I like his arm strength, his mobility. He’s a bigger kid. I think he’s got all the tools to be an NFL quarterback,” said Pederson.
“If you haven’t spent time with a guy like Carson Wentz, it’s hard from the outside looking in. You may go: North Dakota State, smaller school, might be an issue. But when you finally get him into your building, get your hands on him, have a chance to visit with him, talk to him and just break it down, this kid is pretty impressive. I’m excited to see where he goes and then excited to kind of follow his career.”
By the sounds of it, he would not object to following that career up close.
“I think in our situation we’ve go two solid quarterbacks so if he were to be on our roster, he may not have to play right away, so that’s the beauty of having two veteran guys in front of him,” he said, when asked about Wentz’s lack of in-game experience. “But you dive into him as a person, his work ethic, his off-the-field attitude, how he handles his media, how he handles his teammates, puts him kind of into elite status when it comes to quarterback.”
If they believe he’ll be there at 2, or that Goff is in that “elite status” as well, logic suggests the Eagles may try to make another jump up the draft board between now and next Thursday night.
As for Lynch, Pederson said he’s not that far off from the other two but doesn’t know that No. 8 “ would necessarily be the spot to take someone like him.”
I’m glad you so like and value Pederson’s quotes…EHL
Here are some other Pederson’s quotes that you should consider too:
“I think the biggest thing is re-signing our own players,” Pederson said during an interview Monday with the NFL Network. “Obviously that starts with the quarterback position and Sam Bradford. That was something going into this position, you always want to make sure your quarterback position is solidified.
“By getting Sam signed, it was a big benefit to us as an offense. I feel like he has the best days ahead of him and the best games of his career still ahead of him.”
“Sam has all the tools you need to be successful,” Pederson said.
“I think Sam’s a quality quarterback,” Pederson said Tuesday. “I think he’s a top-notch quarterback. Look what he did that last half of the season, the numbers he was able to put up. As a quarterback, he would fit perfectly with a system that I’m going to bring.”
“Sam brings a whole skill set that benefits him,” Pederson said
“We’ve developed a hybrid-type system,” Pederson said. “We utilize our players and the quarterback’s strengths, use our players’ strengths. I think Sam, he’s got all the tools. There’s no denying that. He’s got good size, great arm, good mind for the game, and it’s just a matter now of just plugging him in and cutting him loose and utilizing those strengths in this system.”
So its quite obvious that Pederson doesn’t share the anti-Bradford views of Vinnie, EHL and others…I wonder why??
Koolbreez,
That’s all a smoke-screen to keep Bradford’s value high so they get more when they trade him… Or to make teams think they are not interested in drafting a QB…. LOL
IUhh, koolbreeze, we already heard and know what Pederson has said about Bradford..i am following the money..it’s a one year deal..I don’t care why, it’s one year. Now, I posted what Pederson said about Goff and Wentz because we never heard him take a complete stance on those two before…everything was just rumor..according to you. So, there you have Pederson’s thoughts and words about what Doug thinks about Goff and Wentz, straight from Doug’s mouth. And Kool, just because someone puts something up about Pederson saying something positive about another QB does not mean it’s a slap at Bradford or a shot at you, don’t be so sensitive and feel a need to respond to every little post about Pederson talking about another QB…feeling the need to run to Sam’s defense..kind of obsessive on your part.
LMAO…you are full of it EHL
You have obsessively took shots at Bradford every chance you get.
Funny how you raise what the Coach says to such importance when it comes to the guy you want, but dismiss what the Coach says when it comes to the guy you dont want-Bradford..
Don’t worry…Bradford has got a two year deal to see if he stays healthy…that’s his concern…staying healthy
EHL, you and the ‘Hate Sam Crew’ have been in a state of pure anxiety, badgering and begging for the Eagles to draft a QB high in the draft…it will soon all be over…and we will see!
LMAO!!!
LMAO @ you koolbreeze, you are clearly paranoid! You see things that are not there, every corner, every twist and turn…it’s always someone is talking bad about Sam…are you ok? Lol…The hate Sam crew…I like that name…but let’s change it to hate Sham crew 🙂
That article I posted was exactly what I said it was…trust. You read into something that was not there this time. When I take shots at Sam, there is no mistake about it…that article was not one of them. Get over yourself and Sam..you are borderline creepy with your obsession..FYI, he’s engaged..he has found his love..lol…move on!
Oh and BTW Kool, if the Eagles do not take a QB (Wentz or Goff) for whatever reason, It’s not gonna traumatize me…so sorry to burst your bubble. The fact is chances are they will not be able to get either one of them…that is just the reality of it…so I would be happy with Zeke Elliot if he is there to be taken. Regardless, to me Sam is just average…you agreed with Cliff’s assessment that he is average to slightly above average…so why you hype him up is beyond me. I guess you are a settler and happy with mediocrity…I am not…that is why I am a part of the hate Sham crew, and not a part of the love Average Sham band!
“Regardless, to me Sam is just average…you agreed with Cliff’s assessment that he is average to slightly above average…so why you hype him up is beyond me. I guess you are a settler and happy with mediocrity”
EHL…you are so desperate. For weeks, you have been bashing Bradford, emphasizing the Eagles need for one of these overrated QB’s and hanging on to every word that gives the slightest hint that the Eagles would trade up. You would be absolutely despondent if the Eagles dont get a QB in the first round!
I have been consistent and even keel about Sam Bradford…I’ve said repeatedly things that put into proper football context why I like him.
Like I said…1.He’s the best available QB to the Philadelphia Eagles
2. He is a major upgrade from what we had in Nick Foles. 3. He improved as the season went along.
Like I have repeatedly stated…is Sam Bradford a Russell Wilson, a Tom Brady an Aaron Rodgers, or a Cam Newton…HELL NO…
If we were talking in this draft about getting a Jameis Winston or a Andrew Luck- my view would be “See Ya Sam!”
But those are pipe dreams and delusions…the reality is that Sam Bradford is the best you got…based on his play last year he’s slightly above average which is very good considering you had an awful offensive line, putrid outside wide receivers, and a poor running game!
Context…when you get that kind of play around you and still perform at slightly better than average…you are not doing bad as a starting QB!
If Bradford stays healthy and the other aspects of the team improve…you will get good to very good QB play from Bradford.
Would I prefer Cam Newton or Russell Wilson…sure…would I’d take a Tom Brady…of course…guess what EHL…you not getting those guys and the college QB’s being hyped are no where near those guys and would be a huge mistake for the Eagles to take those guys to build the team around.
I need to see the other aspects of the team…what are they doing at running back? How much better are they at wide receiver?
who is going to rush the passer..(I’m not all that excited about Graham and Barwin.
Lets come out of fantasy land…and deal with reality…EHL your delusions and desperate desires that you pass off as analysis dont add up to winning anything…its simply a desperate leap that can set the team back into an abyss of Football Hell.
The Eagles should make the smart play…get a starting player with your high draft pick that can step in and play right away…no projects, no “hope that he develops Qb”
“I feel like he has the best days ahead of him and the best games of his career still ahead of him.”
LOL. Obviously Bradford’s best games are ahead of him…….
because there certainly aren’t any behind him!
LMAO!!!
LOL…well Vinnie it certainly is encouraging to know that Bradford’s best days are ahead of him
We should always count our blessings and think of what might have been..
We could have had ya boy…Nick Foles
His best days are waaaaay behind him…going back to 27-2…
A distant memory.
So lets see…we have Sam Bradford who clearly will start next year or we could have had Nick Foles…who clearly wont be starting for anyone next year!!
If he’s in the NFL at all!! LMAO
Count the blessing brother…read em and weap…CTFU!!!!
I agree taking Lynch at 8 is high but a trade back to 13 and I would 100 percent take him
I believe that’s exactly what the Eagles will do…
Trade back with the Dolphins at #13 and get a 2nd Rounder for doing so
or even Trade back with the Titans at #15 and Get a 2nd & 4th Rounder for doing so or possibly with the Denver Broncos at #31 plus their 2nd and probably a Player as well…
(Elway is supposedly very high on Lynch, They will play Sanchez starting out the 2016 Season and then see what happens and groom Lynch for 2017) ..
Eagles HC Doug Pederson indicated that he does not view Memphis QB Paxton Lynch as a legitimate option at No. 8.
“I don’t know if [No. 8] would necessarily be the spot to take someone like [Lynch],” Pederson said. “Someone like Lynch,” meaning a more developmental quarterback prospect. The 6-foot-7, 244-pounder visited the Saints, Jets and Broncos last week. We can’t really argue with Pederson here, as we don’t view Lynch as a top-10 selection, either.
Source: philly.com
Apr 18 – 1:31
SMOKESCREEN CITY EAGLES MOVING UP TO #2 TO GET PAXON
U doing too much, gotta let that smoke screen joke go
i hear ya, i just wanted to see what it felt like to say the same exact dumb ass thing every single day every day for a week plus… pretty dumb you right
EHL, Irish Eagle…you guys are grasping for straws…stop it!!
There’s no need for me to grasp for anything. I have facts on my side.
It is a fact that Sam Bradford played his first three years with one of the NFLs top running-backs.
You can call a 27 year-old pro bowl running back with 1624 yards from scrimmage in 2010 (Bradford’s rookie year) “nothing special”, but that just makes you sound like a fool…
Like I said, there is a very small chance that Elliot could duplicate for the Eagles, what Jackson did in 2010 for the Rams. So, saying Bradford never had anyone as good as Elliot is ridiculous….
Only in Philadelphia do we get hype about moving back yeah. We don’t need top ten talent.
Diddy mock draft 2.0
Rams-Wentz
Browns-Ramsey
Chargers-Tunsil
Cowboys-Bosa
Jaguars-Jack
Ravens-Stanley
49ers-Goff
Eagles-Elliott
Buds-Buckner
Giants-Treadwell
if wentz is gone I’m in favor of them trading back
The Newark Star-Ledger’s Eliot Shorr-Parks reports Eagles coach Doug Pederson made it “very clear” Monday that he thinks North Dakota State QB Carson Wentz is “the real deal.”
The Eagles seem to be the most buzzed about team connected with Wentz now that the Rams are apparently leaning heavily toward Cal QB Jared Goff at No. 1 overall. With the Browns seemingly preferring Goff to Wentz at No. 2, they make for a prime trade partner with the Eagles. According to Shorr-Parks, the Eagles have spent more time with Wentz than any other draft-eligible player, meeting with him twice at the Senior Bowl, at the Combine, in North Dakota, and in Philadelphia. There’s been a ton of quarterback smoke coming out of Philly.
Related: Eagles. I hate this guy he’s the worse
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I don’t think it’s a stretch for us to get him at 8. Denver and Jets would be the only other teams in a desperate need for a qb and moving up for them would just cost too much. It’s coming soon.
Eliot Shorr-Parks
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Doug says Lurie did offer his opinion of the quarterbacks in the draft.
“He does study that position”
#Eagles
Lurie hates Sam too bc how can u not
Future Philadelphia Eagle Zeke Elliott did not allow a single QB sack or hurry all season. He was 103 for 103 on all passing block attempts .
Pretty damn impressive. I know that won’t sell any of you guys or at least most of you on that stat. But damn that is very impressive
CT I’ve been sold on Zeke since he ate Bama up in the bowl game. Dude is a beast for real.
CT,
I don’t think anybody doubts that E.Elliot could be a good player. What I object to is the notion that Elliot would be the first quality RB Bradford ever had in the backfield… That’s not true.
Another thing that is not true is that Elliot would have the most positive effect on Bradford’s performance. That’s bull… A better offensive line would have the most positive effect on Bradford or any quarterbacks performance.
This team needs offensive line, defensive line (pass rushers), and defensive backs much more than they need a RB.
“What I object to is the notion that Elliot would be the first quality RB Bradford ever had in the backfield… That’s not true.”
No one made the claim that Bradford never had any “quality” in the backfield…he had a good running back in Steven Jackson who was entering his seventh year when Bradford came in as a rookie…at this time he was still a good running back but I believe Elliot coming in his first year in the NFL with his all-round skills will be the best weapon Bradford has played with…
They signed lineman, rather people like it or not Peters is going to be here this year starting. Curry,Graham,Marcus smith and Barwin are the pass rushers. They signed a safety and corners, we need a running back
I would love to get Zeke and Will fuller in this draft. That would be real nice for the Birds. Don’t think they can swing that tho.
WR Will Fuller projects as a High 2nd Rounder (#35 to #45 Range)
Has Great Speed,, Runs Decent Routes and not afraid to block but needs to work on his hands..
Just for Paulman – Special Delivery
Roseman: Eagles won’t trade Fletcher Cox, not playing leverage game
Dave Zangaro
April 18, 2016, 12:15 pm
The Eagles’ best player hasn’t yet been a part of the team’s offseason program.
And he’s not expected to join this week either.
But Eagles vice president of football operations Howie Roseman made it pretty clear on Monday the team plans on keeping Fletcher Cox long-term and isn’t entertaining the idea of trading him.
“Fletcher Cox is going to be on our team,” Roseman said on Monday, the day before the team’s voluntary pre-draft minicamp is set to kick off. “He’s going to be on our team going forward. We are not trading Fletcher Cox.”
Got it?? Understood??, So we’re done with that talk right??
I hope so Cliff, but I “never say never” until they announce a New Deal.. Maybe they’ll get something done after the Draft and by Summer Camp
The Eagles still need to add Depth at DT ..
Is this the same Howie Roseman that said RB Demarco Murray was starting with a Clean Slate for the 2016 Eagles!!!
Plus he isn’t worth a hill of beans in a trade because of his contract situation… Why would you trade your best player for maybe a 4????
Steven Jackson finished in the top ten 2/3 times 2010-2012 going 8,9,15. With his td totals being 5,4,6. He was a very solid back during his time with Sam. But fell off tremendously right after his final year in STL and signed in ATL. It was apparent and very evident that he was not the Sam guy during his final years with the Rams.
And in that division, u were going to need a lot more then just a solid RB.
At least 1 decent wr and a oline that could pass protect. A QB is only as good as his supporting cast. Peyton, Rodgers, Brees, and even Brady look human when there star players are hurt or not playing. Heck u can even mention Big Ben.
Matt Ryan and stafford will be quarterbacks who struggle as well without there weapons and a terrible oline. Name any QB in the league basically.
No more excuses for Sam. Especially they draft zeke. He will have a solid D (we hope) and a offense he will be comfy with from a personell and schematic stand point.
And in that division, u were going to need a lot more then just a solid RB.
In 2010 the NFC West was the worse division in football…. Seattle won the division with a 7-9 record. There was not one team in the division with a winning record.
True. But seattle was on its way to being…well seattle.
The 49ers were on their way to taking off as well with harbraugh.
Bradford was not winning that divison as a rookie in 2010. Seattle and 49ers, although there records were not great were already light years ahead in terms of how established they were compared of the rams.
****NFL Trade Rumors****
Sources around the NFL Report that a Deal has been Reached between the
Cleveland Browns and the Philadelphia Eagles for the #2 Overall Pick of the Draft assuring the Eagles at getting one of the Top 2 QB’s in this Draft
The Costs of the Deal have not been released but you can expect a big price to Pay to move up for a “Franchise QB Pick”
My Sources have the Rams Selecting Jared Goff, which was confided to the Eagles by Jeff Fisher so that the Eagles could make their Offer and move for Carson Wentz….
This should be a very interesting next couple of Weeks as the Draft approach;s and Howie Roseman now looks to dump Sam Bradford who may or may not be included in the Browns Deal, but sources state that HC Hue Jackson has little interest in acquiring or Coaching Sam Bradford, so it may be the NY Jets,Broncos but those Teams don’t have the Cap Space to take on Sam Bradford’s Contract… Stay Tuned ….
I wish it was true paulman
New Mock NFL Draft (Top #10)
1) Rams – QB Jared Goff (Cal)
2) EAGLES – QB Carson Wentz (N Dakota State)
3) Chargers – DB Jalen Ramsey (Fla State)
4) Cowboys – DE Joey Bosa (Ohio State)
5) Jaguars – DL Deforest Buckner (Oregon)
6) Ravens – OT Ronnie Stanley (Notre Dame)
7) 49ers – LB Myles Jack (UCLA)
8) Browns – RB Zeke Elliot (Ohio State)
9) TB Bucs – DE Shaq Lawson (Clemson)
10) NY Giants – OT Jack Conklin (Mich State)
Too many Red-Flags on OT Laramy Tunsil right now and he’s dropping like a Rock….
Eagles should gamble on Tunsil if he drops.
I don’t think the birds should gamble on the health of UCLA LB Jack. ( too risky)
Hoping for an OT this draft at #8 Tunsil or Stanley.
Word is that the Eagles Traded the Following to the Browns
2016 Draft 1st Round Pick (#8), both 3rd Round Picks (#77 & #79 Picks)
1 to 2 Players and the Eagles 1st Round Pick in the 2017 Draft
Hey paulman show,me one report that has the Eagles making that trade….. cause I’ll be so fucking excited but I don’t think it happenes
paulmanrumors.com
Lord knows the Eagles don’t have the balls to pull off a trade
There can be no trade completed/announced with the Browns until after the Rams pick anyway. If they take Goff, then things could get rolling.
That being said, if the Rams take Goff, then I think Wentz could slide to 6.
Roseman, for his strengths and faults, does seem to have a good feel for the ‘pulse’ of the draft. He, at this point, has a good feel for what is going to happen at the top.
I have a feeling the Eagles might not have to move to 2 if they want Wentz.
As much as I want wentz trading up to 2 for him would be an unnecessary risk imo. This team isn’t good enough not to have picks in rounds 1-3 this year and next. Imo we have to pick 6th-8th this year. We are lacking talent at CB qb de need a future tackle and another guard. Those players have to be drafted sooner than later. Get ur qb this year if he drops to 6th or later if not get bpa then mortgage the future next year or Sam will be Sam this year and we may not have to mortgage anything. Sam good for 5-8 wins which sets us up for a high pick next year and if his frail body breaks down as always chase detmer ain’t winning any games …
I think the cowbitches take Wentz thats,why the Eagles are trying to get up to 2 or 3…
Well if the Cowboys take a player who won’t impact the nfc east for 3 + years with the 4 pick then I’m celebrating day 1 of the draft no matter who we pick. The Cowboys move and only move is to go defense, anything else to is dumb. So I hope they do go qb
Mhenski that’s not all the way true cause they could take a non qb and they still don’t make an impact cause the draft isn’t about next yr it’s about 3-4 yrs down the line…
if your a gm of a team with a solid qb, a top 3 (or best) flawless oline, & dez bryant and you waste a top 5 pick on a player that wont be stepping foot on the field for years, you need to be fired
A team cannot take a QB in the top 5 to sit for 3 years.
Cowboys are trapped in a strange self-imposed limbo. They have to be ligitimately concerned about Romo’s age and injury history. Esp his collarbone. They’ve got to want to select a ‘replacement’ QB
However Romo’s contract seems to prohibit this. He’s got a exhorbitant cap hit over the next 2 years, which only grows if he gets cut. Romo isvirtually guaranteed to be on the roster this year and next. So a rookie is on the bench at least 2 years. Romo’s dead cam in 2018 is still 10million, so he’s probably there that year too. He can be cut after 2018 with little penalty.
So they’re stuck with Romo for the next 2 years at the very least.
Again, I cannot see a team taking a QB top 5 to sit till his 3rd or 4th season. One year, ok, but not 3.
So I can’t see a QB for the Cowboys where they are drafting, though they are a team perfectly suited to take a quarterback in a later round.
they take a qb later in the draft– they have to be thinking develop a guy but if romo gets hurt again and they are in the top 5 next year they have to do it…
Romo cannot be trusted anymore. He has a broken back and busted collar bone. He will get pile driven into the turf again or blind sided square in the back. He is done. Romo will never play 16 games again.
I hope that is true and evidence points in that direction …we can welcome the cowgirls to QB hell!
**********trade alert********
Eagles send #8,77, next yrs 1st, Brandon graham,Kelce and Josh huff
For #2 overall and their 5th Rd pick
no they don’t! no one wants graham, kelce or huff–
how many times do you need to be told– teams don’t trade high picks for established players… duh!
This is a prime example of what you want to happen in this years draft versus what will realistically happen in the draft. Good luck buddy you will find the results next thursday on draft day a huge disappointment.