• December 8, 2022

Warning: Sixers Are Having Trouble With A Little Success

Do you remember the euphoria of the Sixers win over the Celtics last Friday night? I spent an entire show on 610-WIP bragging about those guys. It seems like such a long time ago after these two consecutive awful losses by the city’s basketball team.

I was going to going to forgive them for that embarrassing performance in Milwaukee. They were blown out of the Bradley Center 102-74. None of us really disagreed with Collins after he claimed that the team had “tired eyes” – after all the Sixers have won 21 out of their last 34 which is a .614 winning percentage. Their worst loss before the Milwaukee was a 14-point loss to the Knicks back on February 6th.

I can forgive them for that, but I can’t forgive them for losing to Utah last night. The Jazz are pathetic without Deron Williams and there’s no way the Sixers should be losing to them.

Lou Williams tweeted on the way to Utah that he couldn’t wait to get to L.A.. The way they played last night the entire team must have go to L.A. and missed the game. Any way what’s Lou Williams doing talking about L.A. while they’re getting ready to play Utah?

Last night in Utah the Sixers trailed by 21 points in the first half and by many as 18 in the second. You can’t tell me this team is as focused as they were when they were beating the Spurs or the Celtics. Getting blown out by the Bucks then losing to the Jazz is a sign that they can’t deal with success.

I haven’t seen the hustle and commitment to playing defense each time down the floor.

If I was Collins I would get out the whip and take up all their time in Los Angeles. I wouldn’t let them go any where but to the basketball court. How can you destroy all this image-building in such a short period of time? That culture which had the Sixers in the basement for years is trying to creep back in.

The schedule is set up for the Sixers to finish strong with a Western swing with remaining games against the Clippers, Kings and Trailblazers. The Sixers could lose to these teams but they should beat all of them. I want to see a hungry team out there and not that lethargic bunch which played against the Bucks and the Jazz.

The season ends in less than a month and this team has to finish strong. Once they get back on the East coast the Sixers face the the Pistons, Nets and Raptors at home. They had better win those games because it’s going to be tough to win on the road with games in Miami, Chicago and Boston.

Doug Collins is going to have to be the bad guy and tell these guys they haven’t done anything yet.

Ron Glover

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scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
March 15, 2011 1:14 pm

I don’t think it’s trouble with a little success. It’s unfortunate but with an 82 game season these types of things happen in the NBA. No team is immune to it.

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 15, 2011 2:39 pm

They shoulda beat the bucks but I expected a loss against the jazz, Al Jefferson is a load to handle in that post and he gives the sixers fits everytime he plays them. They just need to keep the intensity up for 4 quarters and not turn it on so late. It seems to me that they play great against great teams but lack that same effort againsts the lesser teams

If they wanna make it out of the 1st round they need to play with the same intensity that has gotten them this far.. each and every game regardless of the team they’re playing

schiller
schiller
March 15, 2011 3:01 pm

Scorp – excatly.

Warning – Philly media over-reacting!

Oh the suprise….what a shock

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 3:11 pm

WARNING — Evan Turner is still trash and unworthy of the second overall pick. Damn scrub.

phillywill
phillywill
March 15, 2011 3:18 pm

hahahahaah success
all man we r 2 games over .500 a 7 seed in the east and yet the sixers are successful
you know whats funny to me if you were to put 1 superstar on this team u guys would murder him for leading us to a 6 seed but because the whole team averages 10 lol they r successful 2 games over .500
im 1 of the biggest sixer fans here but dont think im happy being 2 games over .500 with a date with chicago boston miami 1st round looming
clearly not successful
worse off we r stuck with this mediocre well coached bunch for the next 2 or 3 yrs
meanwhile ny is stuck with tremendous talent
chicago is stuck with tremendous talent
miami stuck for 5 yrs with leron wade bosh
yet we cant handle success
maybe this is y we dont win chips in philly
we hype to be 2 games over .500
sad

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2011 3:50 pm

That’s PHilly fans and the local media for you PW,
A couple of weeks of good play and everyone jumps the Sixers Bandwagon.
Phils Sign CLiff LEe and Fans,Local Media state that the 2011 World Series will be handed to them though they have many other holes on their roster and probably won’t even win the NL Pennant
Flyers get to the Stanley Cup last year when the Eastern Conference Top 2 Teams get bounced out early in the playoffs (Penguins & Capitols) and leaves the door wide open for teh Flyers to get to the Finals, they played very well and just came up short, but again the Philly Fans and Media state that the FLyers have a potentail Dynasty and will compete for a Stanley CUp for years… Guess what, They won’ t make the finals for another 10-15 years…
Then it’s PHilly’s favorite jump on the bandwagon team of all time,,the Eagles. QB Vick comes in and plays unbelievable and the EAgles beat a
poor COwboys Team, an injury riddled Colt team, and no-defense Texans team, teh Giants choke up a 3 score lead with 8 minutes left in the Meadowland and everyone is on the Vick Wagon and saying the Eagles are
a legitimate Super Bowl contendor.. then the Eagles,fans come back to earth where the lay an egg to the VIkings,Cowboys and PAckers losing their final 3 games (All at home by the way) .. This Eagle team is slightly above average, nothing more and nothing less.. just like all the other Philly teams..

schiller
schiller
March 15, 2011 4:04 pm

Birdo – I don’t know you personally. I don’t know if you’re married. I don’t know if you have kids. But I’d be willing to wager that if you have a young son, let’s say he’s 2 years old, you yell at him constantly for not being financially independent and a homeowner by age 2 and a half.

You simply have no realistic concept of how long it takes for an NBA player to develop. You think that a #2 pick should be expected to be a league superstar – that sir, is called being out of touch with reality. Go back through #2 picks in the NBA now, and tell me how those guys did – on average, don’t just pick a few that did well immediately to prove your point.

Rasheed1
Rasheed1
March 15, 2011 4:13 pm

Lakers took a dip… So did the Heat… It happens.. *shrugs* You beat everyone all the time… As long as they can bounce back and show that they can retain some focus through stretches like they did before these losses..

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 4:55 pm

schiller — whatever. I’m willing to put money that I could destroy you on the court. I play ball every other day of my life damn near and I’ve been playing since I was 5. I’ve been a fan of the NBA and the Sixers in the same timeframe. The second pick in the draft should have an immediate impact on their team or they inevitably end up being busts or roleplayers. Don’t try to talk to me about development and what not — you either have it or you don’t on the NBA level. You can “develop” your game in the NBA and still be a star and/or go to guy for your team. Turner is struggling to find playing time on a team that is barely .500 — give me a break. And just to play your game, last five years:

2009 second pick: Hasheem Thabeet (has done nothing but still has that dominant factor to be a star in the NBA — height. Turner doesn’t.)

2008 2nd pick: Michael Beasley. Didn’t show much his rookie season, but he played on a horrible team and still put up better numbers and more playing time on a team that didn’t do much. He has a jumper, is extremely athletic, rebounds and is a scorer — Turner hasn’t shown me he can do that on a consistent basis and be the star of the team.

2007 2nd pick: Kevin Durant. Immediate impact. Self explanatory.

2006 2nd pick: Lamarcus Aldridge. Self Explanatory.

2005 2nd pick: Marvin Williams. Good roleplayer. Legit player. Not worthy of 2nd overall pick.

That’s just the last five years. Turner doesn’t even have a position yet. When you draft in the first, second, sometimes even third spot….you should draft a kid you’re going to BUILD around. Turner may be one of the worst 2nd overall picks in the draft next to Sam Bowie and Darko.

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
March 15, 2011 5:38 pm

Damn Birdo …..”Turner may be one of the worst 2nd overall picks in the draft next to Sam Bowie and Darko.”
Harsh statement right there….
Agree pretty much w/everything you saud tho
dude just doesn’t have it on this level to me….hope that I’m wrong tho

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 6:14 pm

@Gotta Luv it….

Trust me, I hope I’m wrong too. I hope turns out be the next Michael Jordan — it would only help my team. But let’s face it, he hasn’t shown anything this season that says “I’m a STAR and I’m here to be the FACE of the FRANCHISE!” — the dude is weak. His passing is ok. Let’s face it, he doesn’t dazzle us with it. He can rebound ok. He can’t shoot. We’re lucky to see him dunk. I mean, at best he’s another John Salmons….at BEST. At worst he’s a bust. I just don’t see this kid. I don’t see IT in him, whatever it is. I hated the pick when they made it and I hate it now. He’s a fluke player of the year and a fluke 2nd overall pick.

schiller
schiller
March 15, 2011 6:33 pm

birdo – damn right you’d destroy me on the court. I SUCK AT BASKETBALL. I can’t play a lick! I’m white, slow, completely nonathletic etc…. but that has absolutely nothing to do with our conversation…

‘my little game’ does prove my point. Look at the excuse you tried to make for Beasley – that’s exactly what could happen with turner.

You’re closing the book WAY to early. Your expectations are too simplistic. With a 2nd overall pick, you try to pick the best player on the board. Period. You hope for the best, but you don’t evaluate the pick midway through the first year. That’s just dumb. Do you decide whether a pasta dish is good at the point where the water just started boiling? Sounds like YOU do

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 6:42 pm

Turner WASN’T the best player on the board at #2, period! We have like 2 to 3 players that are the exact replica of Turner but BETTER. We are way past the midway point of the year and Turner hasn’t done much.

It wasn’t an excuse for Beasley. Beasley showed even tho he played on a sub-par team and his stats weren’t through the roof, he still had skill. I don’t see Turner getting any kind of separation, showing any kind of speed, or any monumental type of athleticism. Yea, in the Big Ten he looked great and like he was the truth….but it’s the BIG TEN! The conference is not nearly what it use to be.

It’s the NBA, once again, don’t talk to me about development because this has nothing to do with Turners “development” — it’s about having the skillset to play at the professional level, Turner doesn’t have it. Not the skillset to be a superstar that is. He may be a good roleplayer/sixth man — that’s all fine and dandy, just not worthy of the second overall pick.

schiller
schiller
March 15, 2011 6:51 pm

hey, I can’t disagree about the big 10. I’m a big east guy, GO PITT, so you’ll find no arguments here.

But you know what, Evan Turner may turn into a great player for the team next year. And you are calling the guy trash. Many people DID think he was the best player on the board.

Just get over it man. Do you think John Wall would have put us over the top? Favours? Anyone in that draft class? Me neither. So they got a good prospect. That’s all. Take a deep breath, it’s gonna be ok. Promise

paulman
paulman
March 15, 2011 7:27 pm

The Big East is overrated also (like most things in the Northeast are)
VIllanova,Marquette,CIncinnati, WV will all get bounced out in the 1st Round of the NCAA Tournament..
Top top teams Pitt,Notre DAme,U Conn,Syacuse, Louisville are al solid teams and very well coached and all should make a deep run.. Georgetown has that one player (C Wright) coming back from injury.. if hes 100% and basketball ready, then they can make a deep run, if not, it’s an early exit for them too…

schiller
schiller
March 15, 2011 7:41 pm

Overrated how? More teams in the top 25 for years. That’s facts. Paulman is overrated.

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 15, 2011 9:32 pm

, man don’t listen to that crap from birdo he’s coo coo he obviously doesn’t know the game of basketball and how the nba works, alonzo mourning, j kidd, the list goes on of #2 picks that didn’t excel into great players there 1st yr… heck there r #1 picks like Dwight Howard that didn’t show there game til his 3rd yr.

Evan turner has a lot of time to grow

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 9:58 pm

Evan Turner has show no sign that he CAN and will grow. Keep drinking the kool-aid, I’ll see you here in five years when hes still average 7 pts a game.

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 15, 2011 10:20 pm

Birdo you want this man to fail so bad, its hilarious. Do you think john wall, d cousins, d favours are having great yrs? All of them are having rookie yrs with rookie type stats. And there all playing on losing squads (were winning) so whatever we get from ROOKIE EVAN TURNER is a bonus

And stop comparing a ROOKIE to veterans you sound idiotic

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 10:29 pm

lmao, all three rookies that you mentioned are having outstanding seasons for rookies. It’s only Turner, who is the 2nd overall pick, that can barely find playing time on a subpar team. He’s trash. Get over it. Want him to fail? LMFAO, that would mean I would want the Sixers to fail. Be real. The dude can’t compete in the NBA. He doesn’t have the skillset. Get over it.

And John Wall is nearly averaging a double-double. Just FYI.

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 15, 2011 10:49 pm

You don’t get it Birdo, the sixers are winning without any huge contribution from turner. The losing teams like the wizards kings jazz have forced there rookies to start so they can generate interest in there teams, each squad mentioned have been sinking deeper and deeper in the irrelevance pool. Ther sixers are winning there attendance is up and whatever we get from an inexperienced rookie is a BONUS

This is just like a philly fan to be so overly critical of a rookie that’s learning the speed of the nba game. The sixers aren’t in the same position as those other teams, they have to win now, the other teams have started over and are rebuilding we rebuilt already.

Those teams are in a position to play all there rookies, the same as the twolves squad so don’t come on here bashing a rookie and comparing him to veterans its IDIOTIC

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 15, 2011 10:52 pm

You gotta learn the game and relax with all the comparisons.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 10:54 pm

The Sixers are winning? We are barely over .500 you f’n idiot! WTF you mean the Sixers are winning? You act like we are real contenders. You obviously don’t understand basketball. Who’s comparing Turner to veterans? How is stating that he doesn’t have the skillset to be a superstar in the NBA comparing him to veterans? He’s slow. He can’t shoot. He’s unexplosive. His athleticism is average in the NBA. He’ll be another John Salmons — and thats not bad, it’s just not good enough and not worthy of the second overall pick. Period.

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 15, 2011 10:55 pm

John Wall is avging almost a double double yet HIS TEAM IS LOSING, we have our #2 pick coming off the bench and were winning wouldn’t you know… stats mean nothing it matters if your winning or not bottom line

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 10:59 pm

Turner does NOTHING in the meaningful games/wins. Period.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 11:00 pm

Be real, who does John Wall have? Are you somehow insinuating that Evan Turner is better than John Wall?

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 15, 2011 11:00 pm

Genius you compare him to guys on the roster and you sound so stupid doing that, he’s a rookie a rookie a rookie! Dang you really don’t know basketball

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 11:03 pm

John Wall is a rookie and has shown me he’s going to be a star. Blake Griffin is a rookie and has shown me he’s going to be a star. What is Turners excuse?

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 11:10 pm

And here’s another game for you to play if your so NBA smart — name another 2nd overall pick that had a subpar/WEAK rookie season….and ended up becoming a superstar/all-star/face of the franchise. I DARE you to find me ONE after a WEAK rookie season. Just one, and then I will believe there is hope for Evan Turner.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 15, 2011 11:14 pm

Nevermind — I did the work for you. Gary Payton. I consider him a superstar/all-star/face of the franchise and he had a subpar/weak rookie season. So it IS possible…..but I had to go back TWENTY years.

I hope THE VILLAIN proves me wrong.

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 16, 2011 10:35 am

2006 #2 ovr pick LaMarcus Aldridge did not breakout hid first yr nor did he show any signs hee would, he came off the bench too so birdo as I said before you sound idiotic n stupid judging a rookie with not even a yr under his belt

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 16, 2011 11:29 am

What?! STFU idiot! You don’t know basketball! Aldridge came back early for his rookie season from shoulder surgery and started (and shined) when Pryzbilla went down! STFU, you just owned urself, idiot.

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 16, 2011 12:13 pm

Aldridge was wildly inconsistent and is now breaking out her actually is no receiving recognition yet still isn’t an allstar dumb dumb you don’t know basketball your proving it as we speak, go get an nba guru book and study up then come talk to me

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 16, 2011 12:28 pm

And just fyi he missed the first 7 games and only started 22games and got that starting center job ONLY bc Joel pryzbilla got injured and he avg 8.4 points a game! Uh so who looks like the joke you more n more lol this is hilarious

If iggy can’t play tonight whose gonna start in his place? Turner. How many points does he avg off the bench? 6-7 points if not more. Gimme a break get a clue Birdo you need to become a student of the game and learn something. I can be your teacher

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 16, 2011 12:36 pm

In the games Lamarcus started he averaged 15 pts a game you idiot! The beauties of the internet….you’re able to go back and look up stats but you obviously didn’t research enough. Lamarcus was a beast as a rookie RIGHT out of college. He shined his first year. What has Turner done?

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 16, 2011 12:36 pm

You seriously know nothing about basketball and rely on the internet in order to prove your point. HILARIOUS.

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 16, 2011 12:48 pm

You’ve just made yourself look even worst. He avg 8.4 points… in the month of march he avgd 14.7 points 8reb so stupid I can’t believe I even attemted to explain something to someone this brainless. Birdo learn the game learn how to support your answers with facts not just your opinions, your words hold njo weight

EaglesBirdGang
EaglesBirdGang
March 16, 2011 12:55 pm

Fact is that Aldridge would not have started if pryz didn’t go down. He avg 8.4 turner avg 7.4 hmmm both rookies. Case closed birdo

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 16, 2011 12:58 pm

Turner sucks and is not worthy of the second overall pick until he proves otherwise. Now the case is closed you idiot. Turner can’t even find playing time on a subpar team. Trash. Just like your posts.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
March 16, 2011 12:59 pm

And Aldridge was also named to the All-Rookie FIRST team — will Evan Turner be named to the All-Rookie FIRST team?