Former NFL player personnel executive Michael Lombardi, who now works for the NFL Network was on Arizona radio station Sports 620 KTAR and he buried Eagles backup quarterback Kevin Kolb.
“It’s hard to watch tape on Kevin Kolb and think he’s worth a first round pick,” Lombardi said. “It’s going to require somebody selling him in the building and someone has to know him.
“When you watch the tape or should I say when you study the tape on Kolb, it’s not overly impressive,” Lombardi continued. “It’s very disappointing at times. I know Philadelphia doesn’t like me when I say this, I think ultimately if he did have to play Philly would have been a 7-9 team. If it wasn’t for Michael Vick it would have been bad.”
Lombardi remembers why Andy Reid benched Kolb early in the season. When Kolb would get pressured he would start watching the pass rush after the ball was snapped rather than keeping his eyes downfield on the receivers. Once he was hit by the opposing pass rush, he would start scrambling rather than stepping up in the pocket. He was spooked in the Green Bay game from the pressure that the Packers put on him.
Reid has seen enough of that in the preseason when Kolb struggled in game after game.
Fortunately he got his confidence back against the Atlanta Falcons, but Kolb still hasn’t ever proved he can play well when his offensive line is playing poorly. If a defense gets to Kolb and pounds him, he doesn’t play well.
Lombardi also doesn’t buy all the talk about Kolb going to the Cardinals. He thinks the Eagles quarterback will wind up in Cleveland playing for the Browns.
I think Kolb will probably go to Arizona but I don’t think he fits their offense. The Cardinals don’t play the the west coach offense, but more of a downfield throwing offense, which requires the quarterback to throw deep seam routes. Ernie Zampese designed this offense which was operated in the past by Dan Fouts in San Diego and Troy Aikman in Dallas. It’s currently run by Phillip Rivers in San Diego, Tony Romo in Dallas and Jay Cutler in Chicago.
It requires legitimate arm strength to run that offense and Kolb has never been known for his arm strength. I’ll be interested to see how he makes out in that offense, if he goes there.
a guy whos career was defined by great coaches. i never liked this guy much. he is just another opinionated a-hole. ill stick with my gut on kolb. i still think he is better than anything drafted this year. with exception to ponder.
More like 6-10 if we were fortunate enough. But hey, the past is the past and Vick is the here and now, and it’s time to keep this thing rolling! E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLESSSSSS!!!!
maybe so, but only becasue the o-line was terrible. if the o-line was stable i am sure kolb could have put a couple more wins on the board, and saying that vick could have put a couple more wins up also with a better o-line. on the other hand, if kolb played maybe tds would have came at a slower rate and they would have ate more clock leaving the defence off the field. what i am trying to say it is all a guessing game as to what the record would have been had kolb played the whole season. these “experts” are the sameones who every year predict who will win dvisions, superbowl, etc and are very rarely right let alone guessing what a record of a team would be with one player different playing. i think kolb has very good potental and needs an opportunity. i hope it comes somewhere else only becasue we have vick.
I agree with Lombardi. Kolb wasnt impressive and our season would have been a disaster if he hadnt gotten knocked out of the first game..
Hopefully other teams dont figure this out before we fleece somebody..
Here’s the funny part about this….
When we said Kolb was nothing special some Eagles apologists would come on here and say,”What do you all know?” or “You guys are not GM’s who scout to know the true talent of players.”
Remember those qoutes?
Now, a professional GM who worked in the ranks tells us what we knew already and the same apologists are now pointing to the fact that he’s a former GM.
Wake up people…Kolb is who we thought he was and if we get anything for him that will be a blessing.
One bad thing about Kolb not platying all 2010 Season for the Eagles..
I calculate that they would have been drafting anywhere between 10th and 15th is this recent Draft and could have had CB Prince, OT T Smith, or DE R Kerrigan, DT Nick Fairley, DE R Quinn,etc,etc instead of a Canadien Firefighter…. Thanks Mike Vick
so because lombardi says it makes it true? he rode the coat tails of walsh, and belichek. never accomplished anything with the browns and oakland. ill let you guys keep falling all over yourselves. you love to hate
If I had a quarter for every time Michael Lombardi was dead wrong about a player I could retire. There’s a reason Al Davis ended his relationship with Lombardi, and there is a reason he couldn’t get another job in the NFL.
Kevin Kolb might suck, but he will have to play before anyone knows that for sure – including Lombardi.
Irish..once he plays the suck….what then?
Its funny to see people still refusing to admit that Kolb simply isnt that good… People even seem mad over it. lol
throwing insults at Lombardi and whatnot.. dont kill the messenger…thats not cool…
My question is…Why do guys hope Kolb do good once he leaves the Eagles and did not feel that way about former QB’s who left?
What benefit would that be if he did good on another team?
Can someone please tell me what purpose of these continual comments hoping Kolb will get a chance to be a legitimate QB?
Why are people attached to this guy who have done absolutely nothing of great significance?
If Kafka get released will these guys be saying the same for him?
Geesh
I hope Kafka has a “Metamorphisis” into a good NFL QB…
Songs, while you want to come on here and claim that Kolb sucks and will never be good, thats all fine and dandy — you can have that argument even though he still hasn’t had the full season to prove himself…..HOWEVER, you ALSO proclaimed how much the Eagles would suck without Donovan McNabb. SO, if you want to attack the “Kolb apologists” for not coming up with anymore excuses for him, you ALSO need to choke on your weak ass prediction about Donovan McNabb still being able to compete at a high level. The dude was DONE, stick a FORK in him — like most of us said he was.
Bird..don’t be ignorant…you and everyone on here knew I said the Eagles would suck without Mcnabb if Kolb became quarterback…..and I stand by that statement…and obviously the Eagles organization feels the same now that he’s officially the hell outta here.
Kolb being gone has NOTHING to do with him not being good enough — it has to do with the emergence of the most dangerous QB to ever play the game. McNabb would have been in the same situation Kolb IS in….oh wait, he was, and he lost his job to an unproven “baby armed” QB, lmao.
alright Birdo
Kolb ass is toast and will soon be in the memory of us all as a player we should have never picked, while one day in the future you’ll be invited to a game in which the organization retires number “5” as the greatest QB to strap up in Eagles green.
Kolb will not be mentioned in the canons of history…but an after fart with the likes of Bobby Hoying.
The greatest QB to ever strap up in Eagles green will be Michael Vick. After he delivers not ONE, but TWO Lombardi trophies.
OOOOOOOOh..birdo have officially admitted Vick is the man huh?
Must I paste a few qoutes with Birdo arguing Kolb over Vick?
Must I?
Now you’re on Vick’s nuts
Find me something, I DARE you. I NEVER degraded Vick and NEVER said Kolb should start over Vick — so have fun with that search. I did however prefer Kolb over McNabb, on any depth chart. And still do
Birdo…What have Kolb done that would make him a better option over Mcnabb?
You can’t even go there…..Kolb is ass and if Reid did not pick this garbage trying to show he’s smarter than everyone else, I believe none of us would know who him today.
He could not supplant Mcnabb when he was given the opportunity while Mcnabb was here and couldn’t hold on to a job that was handed to him on a silver platter after Mcnabb was traded.
Hey, don’t be surprised if Donnie Mac is signed to give veteran experience to back up Vick.
Stranger things have happened…We did sign an ex convict with serious character issues when everyone claimed that the Eagles would never sniff a player with questionable character flaws.
Don’t be surprised if it’s McD coming in if Vick goes down with an injury, and all of us here knows the offense would be in better hands opposed to the slow diaper boy running for his life only to throw up a duck to the other team.
Read it then paste it!!!!
Kolb will do absolutely nothing once he’s gone and will be rotting on someone’s bench in the very near future.
if mcnabb would have had the 3 receivers we have now we could have won a superbowl. this is andy’s fault. to bad t.o. was an egomaniac we could have done something. i still like kolb and think he can be good but to say he should start over mcnabb is a dumb comment.
@ whoever said why do we wish kolb well. he was a very professional contributor to this team. what bad could you say about him? he seems like a really nice young man. i would rather build my team with kolb than with cam newton.
Cam Newton is a #1 pick and you would rather have Kolb? Cam Newton already looks better than kolb.
*SMH*
Picking the inferior player just for spite is not something smart people do.. … Kolb is no Cam Newton. that is obvious already
A quarterback that hasn’t proven enough when given the opportunity against a quarterback that has done nothing but win…laughable!
How does Cam Newton already look better than Kolb? Has he even played an NFL game yet? NFC player of the week yet? Throw for 300 yards in consecutive games yet? I guess I missed something.
Most of the Kolb haters fan club on here that continue to bring him up make absolutely no sense. Your comments just make you look stupid like the one above(ex. Cam is better than Kolb right now). The fact that you know how to operate a computer amazes me. Atleast just be real and come out and say it…You don’t like Kolb because he is white. And to make matters worst for you he got McNabb shipped out of here which prolly eats at you everyday to make some of you guys continue come on here and write the most riduclous things about it day after day.
Well reality is McNabb got shipped out of here because all he did was choke in big games. 1-5 i believe in NFC Champ games(esp when we were favored in the majority of them). He had more than enough chances to win but couldn’t get it done. He is gone stop crying about it. Go root for whatever team he plays backup on next year.
Its been said over and over again that Kolb will be the #1 QB wanted once FA actually starts. Once he goes to another team I hope he sucks and can’t play at all just like I wish for every other QB that not an Eagle.
BTW, Cam Newton was the biggest reach in the entire draft. He was picked to put ppl in the seats not to win games. Carolina will finish with the worst record again this year in which they will have screwed themselves because they will have Andrew Luck sitting in their laps but prolly wont be able to take him cuz of the millions invested in Cam/Clausen. My guess is that if that happens though they still pick Luck and Cam gets shipped just like your boy McNabb.
I think Cam Newton looks better in Sunglasses than Kolb will ever do,
So therefore, I think Cam Newton is the more accomplished QB…
I know it sounds nuts, but this is how the US Congress and Government operates when deciding policy and spending bills…
Paulman, whats sad is that even though your standards used for judging the two Qbs above is a joke there are people on here that use equivalent ridiclous logic in judging players when they are actually expressing their real thoughts.
pheags88: Why was Cam Newton a reach? I’m just curious to know you seem to know more about Newton than most of us.I don’t care what Lombardi or Andy Reid says. I know what I’ve seen in Kolb and I’m not impressed by him as a starter. He’s a serviceable backup at best.
ron – I can’t disagree with you about it being WAY too early to have any credibility to the claim that Newton was a reach (or otherwise).
But do you think less than a full season at starting QB is a fair sample to sum up a player and his potential? Conventional NFL wisdom says hell no, but you seem to think otherwise. I’d like to know your thoughts on this.
Yes I know Pheags which is why I mentioned it.. The “Madness” is unreal as is our Government and our Society in General anymore…
Not to checnge to subject, but that crazy Pastor out in California now states the “Rapture” to take place October 16.. Who is on the Eagles scheudule that weekend..
Schiller – It depends on the individual. If Kolb had showed us anything in that Baltimore game when McNabb was benched we wouldn’t be having this discussion, I wanted Kolb to give us something because I was tired of McNabb at this point. The following season he had two 300+yd games ok something to build on. McNabb is traded Kolb is the starter, he gave us nothing in the preseason. Ok new slate, regular season begins, he gets hurt, comes back and plays ok. I think that the current offense is better suited for Vick above Kolb and McNabb.Kolb has been given shots to grab this team and make it his own. That’s all I’m saying.
I don’t like Cam Newton as a number #1 pick because he is inaccurate, hasn’t even attempted 300 passing attempts in his college career, and has a poor attitude that contributed to him getting kicked out of school/pimped out by his own dad and already considers himself an “icon”. Do you really want me to go on?
Every highlight I see of him in college is him running the ball. Not making tough throws where he has to put the ball in tiny windows like he is going to have to do in the NFL. As a late 1st round pick yea I would take a flyer on him, but as #1 overall Hell NO esp with some of the other talent that went right after him.
He wouldn’t of even been #1 overall if Luck had come out. I would of taken a Peterson, Darius, or AJ Green etc. way before I’d take Newton. Don’t worry when Carolina has the worst record next year all you will be hearing during the draft period is what does Carolina do now with Andrew Luck sitting there in their laps.
You said “. I know what I’ve seen in Kolb and I’m not impressed by him as a starter. He’s a serviceable backup at best”. If thats how you truly feel then thats cool man. But let me ask you question…How many NFC Offensive players of the week did Kolb have to win in his first like what 7 career starts for you to like him? Obviously, 2 out oif 7 is not enough because QBs that get their first real game action do that all the time so like what? 5? 6? 7?
“If Kolb had showed us anything in that Baltimore game when McNabb was benched we wouldn’t be having this discussion”
Really..Come on man your smarter than that..That was the best Defense in the league and Kolb hadn’t probably played with the number 1s all season. But yet you support McNabb who blew just as bad and had how much real game experience in the league up to that point. Yes this offense is suited better for Vick as of right now. Im not saying I want Kolb over Vick. I would take Kolb over McNabb though any day of the week. And I bet the mojority of GMs in this league would do so as well.
How did I know you were going to get personal about Newton. Don’t preface it with stats then get into the other stuff come with that from the jump. It gives more credibility to your argument. If every highlight you’ve seen of Newton has been him running the ball I wonder how he ended up with 2,900 passing yards and 30 touchdowns. You’re case is full of “If Luck had come out”, if this and if that. Life is full of ifs. Bottom line Newton won games, if it meant taking over a game he did it. Will he do it as a rookie, probably not will he struggle, yup. Will he be better because of it? Sure will. Kolb doesn’t have to do anything for me to like him, I like the way he handled everything the last couple of seasons. I don’t know where you come from, but NFC player of the Week awards don’t carry much weight in Philadelphia.
Trading McNabb So Far got us Nate Allen, Casey Mathews, a high 4th round pick next year, and left one of our divisional rivals in abolute misery prolly for the next 5 years. Sounds pretty good to me.
You don’t know how long I supported McNabb, to be honest I was finished when he didn’t address the T.O. situation like a team leader should have. I said in that post that I was done with McNabb. If you’re gonna quote me do it right.
Its not like that at all. In reality, those things matter when it comes to the QB of a franchise. Just ask the Raiders if they would take back the J. Russell pick. I asked a simple question but yet it really didn’t get answered. Yea, NFC Offensive Player of the Week Awards don’t carry much weight here. I guess if Kolb didn’t win a Superbowl the first season he was named as a starter all he showed is that all he was is a ” He’s a serviceable backup at best”. Whats ridiculous though is that those are all the awards that McNabb had after 11 years of starting here but that seemed like enough for most of the people on here.
Russell wowed the Raiders at the combine and might be the worst pick in history. What was your question? I think when McNabb stopped running it magnified the fact that Reid threw the ball too much for anyone’s comfort. McNabb played himself when he stopped running all because of what people would think.
Ron, you don’t have to convince me that the offense is best suited for Vick (out of him, McNabb and Kolb). That’s a different conversation alltogether. I’m just saying, you seem to think that the read on Kolb is complete, although your second assesment seems more reasonable. Sure, Kolb has NOT ‘grabbed this team and made it his own’ – NO QUESTION about that. And further, Vick HAS. But interms of what Kolb has shown and/or seems to be – your most significant evidence (other than the positives about him which go against your opinion), is PRESEASON!? Come on man, to quote you above ‘you’re smarter than that’! PRESEASON? With 0 gameplanning, 0 incentive to win!? If you really believe that tells of a young QB, than I’m done with you and I’ll ignore your sixers posts although I’m a sixers fan….
My whole post wasn’t directed towards just you. It was directed towards most of the stuff I see when I come on here. In regard to you Ron, I said I would take Newton with a late 1st pick at best but never with the first overall due to the other far more superior talent in the draft in my mind and for a combination of reason I mentioned I would take him #1 overall. In my opnion, I feel like Carolina reached because they felt pressure in their division to make some kind of splash and sell tix instead of going with a more sure thing that will ultimately benefit their team in the long run. I stand by that and I look forward to seeing how it plays out.
If you’re trying to groom Clausen taking Newton was a bad move, I guess that they’re not. But I’m willing to see how it plays out as well.
I asked..You said “. I know what I’ve seen in Kolb and I’m not impressed by him as a starter. He’s a serviceable backup at best”. If thats how you truly feel then thats cool man. But let me ask you question…How many NFC Offensive players of the week did Kolb have to win in his first like what 7 career starts for you to like him? Obviously, 2 out oif 7 is not enough because QBs that get their first real game action do that all the time so like what? 5? 6? 7?
You said those awards to matter in Philly. Yes, to a degree you are correct but I would like to see an Eagles QB win those awards in his first real game action because it would show me that he obvioulsy has talent.
I guess winning 2 out of 7 happens all the time in a QB’s first 7 starts. There must be a whole list of players in NFL histroy that have done that. I just would like to know how many NFC POW awards he had to win for you to justify him as more than “He’s a serviceable backup at best”. 3..4..5.6..7?
the bottom line, is who reallycares what a “player of the week,month and or even year” award means to the big picture of things about the Eagles.. It’s about winning Championships.. Soon as all the talk and hype really kicked into overdrive about Mike Vick being the NFL MVP Last yaer (after the Miraculous comeback versus the Giants) then what happened, the team and Vick finished very quietly and played poorly in the games that really matters…
I stated last year that I was willing and needed to Give a Whole season worth of starts to pass judglement. Do I think in limited play he can be a Starter in the NFL, yes I do, do I think he will ever be a Playoff type/Eilte QB, no I don’t and at least in this Eagle System where a QB has to scramble and pass 40-50 times a game due to Coach AR/MM Offensive philosophy. Put Kolb in a run oriented system and manage the game, and he could probably be successful for a team like the Dolphins,Titans,Vikings,Cardinals where they have more blance and rely on Play-action to get big plays which I think Kolb would be effective ..but dropping back 40-50 times a game and using you legs on are least 15-20 times per game to make plays is not Kolb’s game (in fact, very few QB could excel in this Eagle Offense other than a young McNAbb back in his prime or the athleti c Superman of M Vick… Put T Brady/Mannings/P Rivers or whoever else in this Eagles Offense and they probably get killed.. .
Paulman agreed…Brady would be a little better than Kolb in this offense
pheags, you write with a lot of sense, how do you explain some of the comments here, kolb is “ass”, people here are either the dumbest football fans in the country or motivated by some other agenda, it started with mcnabb, some of us early on weren’t buying it, thought he was overrated, were glad that someone else was going to get the chance, anybody, and kolb looked as good as anybody, but to most here it was almost a personal attack on their color to want anyone but mcnabb, and that we were racists for wanting his sorry act out of here, and if we weren’t initially sold on the idea of vick, who coming into this season had an abysmal career completion percentage, then you were a racist, you should have read the trash, the venom spewed my way when I wasn’t initially buying into the vick experiment, but I will say that almost without exception, the majority of white fans in philly don’t give a rats ass about the color of the qb, probably the same for most black fans, but I can’t say the same about the black fans who post here
@paul, if that’s the eagles philosophy moving forward with Vick, 40-50 passes per game and relying on his legs to win games, there will be no lombardi trophy in philly
Jake, are you sire there are Black Fans who post here on Ggobb.Com.. ???
I Agree Jake 100%,
Vick won’t last a full season as no QB would in this pass-happy Offense ..
Vick will make bigger plays no doubt because of his athleticism, and avoid a lot of sacks and even hits by his scrambling abilitiy, but anyone who thinks he will finish a 16 games season healthy and in 1 piece dropping back 40-50 times a game is not being realistic…As long as COach AR is in Philly, there will be no Championship, His system is not built to win the big games in the Playoffs and Super Bowl when going against the best teams and best Defenses, too many chances for error and negative plays (Fumbles,Int’s Sacks,and Penalties) when you pass 65%-70% of your offensive snaps..
After seeing Kolb get blasted and operating totally distraught against Green Bay…Who wanted to see if he could carry the team for the rest of the Season?
Andy Reid sure didn’t.
That is enough for me.
If Reid don’t believe in that loser ..why should we?
Reid gave him the reigns and obviously understands it was a mistake. Now guys on here talking about how great Michael Vick was and that was the defining factor. Look, Kolb never proved to be a QB who could lead a team through a tough season.
I need you all to watch that first half against Green Bay again.
He couldn’t pull it out against Tennesee when the ball was in his hands after Tennesee Rallied. He was a lame duck when Demarcus Ware was baring down on him.
Why can’t people just can’t admit that drafting that loser was a mistake?
@Jakedog
that has to be one of the most hyprocritical posts I’ve read in a long time…
“some other agenda”
The fact that people were so in aww over Kolb in 2009 when he did nothing…but wanted him to replace the best QB to ever wear Eagle green (up until Vick of course)
If you wanted Kolb over McNabb, you had to be motivated by some other agenda, considering, Kolb can’t fill McNabb’s shoes, nor has he ever proved he can be as good as McNabb.
At the end of the day its how many games has Vick won? Even right out of jail, Vick was a much more proven QB than Kolb. I think the fact that you guys keep bring up Vick’s injury risks, is more of wishful thinking on your part!
Vick’s aggressive football style does leave him vulnerable, but lets also remember that also makes him one of the toughest QB’s in the league! Regardless of his size, that many of you like to bring up…