• July 5, 2022

The Philadelphia Eagles 2011 Roster As Of September 4th

I give Andy Reid and Howie Roseman credit for awarding players who made an impact during the preseason. They didn’t protect players whom they had drafted, solely because they had been drafted in high positions. They made some very tough decisions, but this roster will change after the first week.

The Eagles roster includes ten rookies, eight draft picks; Danny Watkins, Jaiquawn Jarrett, Curtis Marsh, Alex Henery, Dion Lewis, Jason Kelce, Julian Vandevelde, and Brian Rolle, as well as two undrafted free agents; punter Chaz Henry and defensive tackles Cedric Thornton.

The Eagles had two players, Winston Justice and Juqua Parker, take salary cuts in order to stay on the football team. Personally I wonder why more teams don’t approach players who are still very capable of contributing to the football team, but are no longer starters to take pay cuts.

Later today I will take an upclose look at each position and evaluate it.


Quarterbacks (3) – Michael Vick, Vince Young, Mike Kafka

Running Backs (4) – LeSean McCoy, Ronnie Brown, Dion Lewis and fullback Owen Schmitt

Wide Receivers (5) – DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Jason Avant, Riley Cooper and Steve Smith

Tight Ends (2) – Brent Celek, Clay Harbor


Offensive Line (9) – Jason Peters, Evan Mathis, Jason Kelce, Danny Watkins, Todd Herremans, Winston Justice, King Dunlap, Julian Vandervelde and Jamaal Jackson.

Defensive Linemen (10) – Ends – Trent Cole, Jason Babin, Juqua Parker, Darryl Tapp, and Phillip Hunt.
Tackles – Mike Patterson, Cullen Jenkins, Antonio Dixon, Trevor Laws and Cedric Thornton.

Linebackers (6) – Jamar Chaney, Casey Matthews, Moise Fokou, Akeem Jordan, Keenan Clayton and Brian Rolle.

Defensive Backs (11) Corners: Nnamdi Asomugha, Asante Samuel, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Curtis Marsh, Trevard Lindley and Brandon Hughes.

Safeties: Kurt Coleman, Jarrad Page, Nate Allen, Jaiquawn Jarrett and Colt Anderson.

SPECIAL TEAMS: (3) Kicker: Alex Henery Punter: Chas Henry Long-snapper: Jon Dorenbos

Brandon Graham (knee) opens on the PUP list, meaning the earliest he can play is Week 7.


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  • We talked about it last evening,
    Going with only 9 Players on the OL is questionable (Especially since WJ was just activiated and who knows what kind of football shape he is in)
    Carrying 11 in the Secondary is also a little much.. and the DT position with M PAtterson and the often injured T Laws still has question marks along with a very young LB Corp (which we knew all summer)
    Breaking it down, Roster has 27 Players on Defense and only 23 on Offense with 3 Special Teamers to make the 53 man roster
    I think the Eagles should have kept OL R Wells and TE Lee in lieu of a 5th Safety and DL T Laws or J Parker or even TE C Harbor who I am still not sure is even NFL Material.. Letting TE Lee and DL Hargrove are 2 mistakes that will come back and bite them and the Eagles better hope they get no one injured across that OL earliy in the Season for their is a lack of depth
    Out of 8 heatlhy players,(Not counting WJ) 3 are 1st year Rookies (Kelce,Watkins,Vandervelde) rookies and 1 is new (Mathis) to the team so that’s half your OL are basically all new players

    I do see them scouring the Waiver/Released lists for an experienced LB and prefereble one to play the Middle for that really like Chaney at the SAM Spot..

  • I give them credit for keeping parker, but that’s about it. Everything else was painfully obvious.

  • one quick caveat is that Trevor Laws had better impress this year or his ass is grass.

  • G-Man likes J Parker so much that he listed him Twice in the Defesive Line roster.. (should be 10 Players listed for DL and not 11)

    DL – 10
    LB – 6
    CB – 6
    Safety – 5

    For a total of 27 Defensive Players

  • Bears sign Pro-Bowler Safety Brandon Merriweather to give them a very strong Safety Tandem to go along with Bears Pro-Bowler Chris Harris.. Th Bears are loading up to match up and to defeat the Packers and Eagles

  • Some Roster-News with other NFC East Teams

    The Giants keep 7 LB’s
    After their starters Goff, Boley & Kiwanuka, the remaining 4 LB’s are all Rookies..
    The Cowboys have 0 FB on Roster but kept 4 TE’s
    The Redksins kept a whopping 8 WR’ on their Roster and only 2 QB’s (Beck & Grossman) …

  • Paulman…..I know Da Bears got Merriweather…but you have to realize that their safeties are nothing compared to our Tandem…..We’ll be hearing Page/Coleman from the halls of Canton one day.

    These two beasts could be the greatest safety tandems in eagles history.

    And with the ball hawking, tenacious Nate Allen waiting in the wings…it’s gravy.

    Nate Allen strikes fear into opposing recievers and quarterbacks when healthy, he take runningbacks head on and stop them in their tracks. With Page we have the experience of Dawk with the hitting power of Ronnie Lott wrapped up into one.

  • i hear ya songs. I would have loved him here too but you cant have alll pro at every spot. If they can find a way to get a RT to shine we will be fine…. update on the lb’s….

    …… Mathews had 2 int’s and returned 1 of them for 6 in my madden game last night so… we should be fine. jk

  • Ditto to what Stevo said (minus the Madden stuff..ha)
    EAgles feel pretty good about their Safeties and 3 young players in Allen,COleman and Jarrett, they are going to give these players time to develop and have Veteran Page help out
    The Key to the Eagles Defense will be how quickly the LB mature and become Professional type of LB, and no one will know this answer until they get a few games under their belt.. (but we knew this all SUmmer long as fans so it is not a surprise.. Outside of a LB, I really don’t see the Eagles adding anyone else to this roster (unless an injury occurs over the next week or so..)
    I think the Roster is about 98% set and we will see what happens..

  • songs you come off to me as someone who doesnt know much about the game except what you see in madden. You cant have an all pro at every position.

  • Stevos new season Chal for you all-

    …… stop ripping on everyone for everything said about the birds. Lets put our forces together and talk crap about the rams and such this year. Bottom line is this…. the birds did a very good job of putting a teaam together this year. Was it perfect? no. but they did a great job. Letsa remember how bad our D was last year. Lets remember how we had 1 CB. Lets remember that our D line coach had 0 talent. Lets remember that we had NO pass rush. Lets remember that we have no GREATLY worked on those areas… while adding a Solid RB and WR to help out. Would we love a RT?? sure. a better MLB?? yes. But this is a good team. lets get behind them…. and eachother.

    `1 sidenote- we can still rip on paulman for his phillies crap from the start of THAT season.

  • Our D was bad, yet we were ranked 12th.
    So, with our new additions, take the 1 out of the front and put us at 2.
    And we won’t be last in the redzone either.
    We have an elite defense, and our great offense only helps even more.
    And having a top defense also gives our offense some room for error whereas we had none/little last year.

    Check the new acquisition, Thornton released for Howard Mudd’s lineman Kyle DeVan. He actually started at guard last year for the Colts too. I like it.

  • wild….THAT’S BS!!!!

    This is not about having pro bowlers at every position…It’s about letting proven players go just to replace them with garbage.

    We were sold Dawk was over the hill only to have him go to the pro bowl the same year…while our safeties stunk…and right now Dawk over the hill is better than every safety on our roster.

    We should have not let him on the open market period!!!!!

    He was the equivalent of Ray Lewis to the Ravens.

    He was the glue to our defense and gave us an identity.

    Now we have Mr Softee in the middle contributing to the worse red zone defense in Eagles history….

    We thought we could get Merriweather after Dawk was gone…The Pats slipped over us and drafted a two time probowler right from under our nose.

    We had Earl Thomas sitting right there for the taking…and draft bum ass Graham and Soft Nate Allen.

    This is not about pro bowlers at every position….it’s about not replacing players with comparable talent.

  • Stevo and Wild, you must keep in mind, this is Eagleshater.com. Nothing positive is ever said, by rule. NNamdi signing is not enough. Cullen Jenkins does not matter. Sgning Vick long term is irrelevant. Asante is not sufficient. Aquiring J Peters means nothing. Hate hate hate, that is what we do. Please adjust your attitudes accordingly or you will be sent to a re-education camp.

  • Anderson…it’s funny you’re talking about Asmo..when i was the oly guy on here crying about signing him, I was a hater because i wasn’t excepting the garbage you guys here were settling for.


  • I just heard the Eagles acquired another Mudd man, Kyle DeVan-guard (Indy). I’m hoping Reid knows what he’s getting himself into. Mudd’s track record speaks for itself, however Indy has the original PManning!

  • hate all u want, i dgaf its your lives.
    im happy as hell and my eagles are contenders yet again.
    i just wanna smash stl in that dome then go to the atl and smash them too, like we did last yr with kolb lmao.
    and ppl think atl and philly are on the same levels, just empty talk and hopeful hype
    no isnt on gb or phi level, their d is worse than atls and they are on the same level
    injuries happen players develop teams surprise, but right now this these are my nfc power rankings
    1- gb
    2- phi
    3- no
    4- chi
    5- atl
    6- ill let you pick 6 since ur crying about phi being too high cuz you cant take the hype/target or are too negative to acknowledge our playoff team improved overall after overachieving last yr. and secondly, cuz ur prob crying about the bears being 4, let alone on this list in general. cry away…i just dont have the time to explain everything and you just wanna argue anyways thats what this site is for right

  • NO Saints made some nice upgrades Defensively by adding
    DT Abrayo Franklin & Shaun Rogers to beef up their Interior of th Defense.
    Only question ? is their OLB play… Their Offense is more consistent and better than the EAgles and they have a better HC in Sean Peyton

    Paulmans Top Teams in the NFC

    #1) Packers
    #2) Saints
    #3) Eagles
    #4) Falcons
    #5) Bears

  • Songs, it is not worth the time spent in order to reply to your blabber. For a guy who claims to be “Highly educated” you apparently do not know the difference between “accepting” and “excepting”. I recall you screaming that the Eagles were cheap, racist and a gaggle of other non-sensical things. Take your ignorance elsewhere, I am through with it. Or perhaps I should say “threw with it” you are not smart enough to know the difference. We all know you are not a man of your word, you promised to leave the site if the Eagles signing NA, and have failed to do so. Show the slightest bit of integrity, and do what you said you would do. Leave.

  • NO does not have a better offense, they dont score as much as we do and we have added more than they have. and we have yet to play to our potential consistently, so no we def disagree if you cant see that. thats cool, long as we win, I’m sure you wont mind be wrong if the Eagles benefit from it lol.

    The NFC’s top 5 are obvious, we agree there. I don’t think the actual order matters much at this point, but it’s cool to see ur p.o.v.
    When you go into detail, each team has their arguments to be 1/2

  • Jets Release former first round 6’4 250 lb Aaron Maybin. He’s only 23 years old and has been in the league for 2 years. We need to get him now… he played at penn State as well.WE NEED TO SIGN HIM ASAP!!!!!!!

  • Maybin is a monster Lb beast that would help us tremendously.

  • Maybin is a good talent, monster in college.
    My friend watched his whole college career, and thinks he is best used at defensive end, not at LB.
    If we were to get him, he would play at OLB, but we’ve had guys like that before that couldnt play LB.

    With that said, I liked Maybin at MBL for the Jets, he played against some 2nd stringers, but mostly 3/4 stringers.
    He was on a different level, and should be a starter in this league honestly.
    I really do think he can play the MLB, and I would get him for depth and monitor him throughout the year in case he can crack the starting lineup.
    But I’d sign him as a backup and let it play out. He can play OLB/DE, but I really liked what I saw in pass coverage too, so idk he gets such a bad wrap…

  • anderson – ha, the funniest thing about songs is that he also claimed 18-0 when they signed Nnamdi, now he’s back to being a hater and he’s sure the team will fail. He’s a waffler big time. You can’t even reason with the guy becuase he changes his mind/opinion/whole perspective too much – he’s got no spine.

  • penn state schmenstate – not what it used to be. If the guy is so good, why do teams treat him like a hot potato?

  • No spine = No credibility = Ignore

  • same question I’m asking…

  • Fine Wm…I don’t think it would hurt if we gave him a try. He might do good as an OLB and keep our edges clean, I’m sure he would be an added upgrade.

  • Wm, if you had a choice and had to choose between Mabin and Matthews, who would you choose buddy?

  • I am in Matthew’s corner, been defending him since he was named the starter.
    If preseason had any glimpse at things to come with rotating Matthews and Rolle, I’m cool with it because DL/WRs rotate.
    I trust the team, the record is 0-0 and the jury is out on all rookies right now with no official games to grade them on.
    I would just take a chance on a former first round pick with a roster spot and see what happens.
    Since we would have to release someone if we picked him up, I guess I’d release Parker, because I don’t think we can move Marsh to the practice squad without another team signing him.

  • Maybin a complete bust and the EAgles will have no interest in himm
    He should have stayed another year in Happy Valley and really is an undersized Pass-Rusher at best and the Eagles have enough of those, Maybin is not an
    NFL LB and not an NFL player at all …

  • I am absolutely happy with our LB core because they are sanwiched between a good dL and a god secondary, with a high scoring offense that will force teams to pass more than they would like.

    rocko – what concerns do you have on defense? and who would you cut for maybin?

  • paul – what are ur thoughts on the LBs rotating? (like Matthews/Rolle)

  • wmonnel
    The Saints have a better all around Offense than the EAgles,
    They may not make the big plays as often as the Eagles but they are muh more consistent and have better play calling and run the ball so more effective than the EAgles and use their TE’s a lot more.. They are a much more difficult to defensd for they use the entire field and utilize all 5-6-7 weapons they have on Offense.. (plus their OL is one of the Best in the entire NFL (from L to R) Bushrod, Nicks, Kreutz, Evans and youngster Strief at RT

  • I think 5 Lbs’ will rotate quite a lot
    Starts with Chaney,Matthews and Fokou as the Starters in thir base defense

    In passing situations
    I see Chaney sliding inside, then Clayton on one side and Rolle in for Fokou on the other side.. Lots of Speed, better pass-coverage and better Blitz capability..

  • 1 good thing about opening night game on Thursday between the Saints and Packers is that one of them will lose, starting 0-1 out of the gate..

  • we were 4th in rushing yards in the whole NFL, and 2nd in points.
    the Saints offense is more ideal and the protocol, we are unorthodox but good at what we do
    I would have agreed with the OL being the best, but after their performance last season I don’t.
    Brees was only sacked 26 times, 6th best in NFL, but he threw 21 picks because of QB hurries (and a little Eli syndrome) and they ahd the 28th ranked rushing attack.

  • We have as many weapons, and our weapons are better.
    Desean, Maclin, Smith, Avant, Cooper
    did you know Desean is the most explosive WR (and players) in the game
    Maclin is the best 2nd WR in the game (more proven than Dez and Julio right now)
    Smith is the best 3rd WR in the game
    Avant is the best 4th WR in the game
    Cooper is prob the best 5th WR in the game as well

    lesean mccoy led the NFC is all-purpose yards (2nd in the NFL)
    ronnie brown is a workhorse, dion lewis provides great depth and return skills
    celek could have caught the ball better, and blocking more than usual affected his mindset, but he showed he is a pro bowl caliber player
    harbor made some plays and is a good 2nd te

  • I will give you D-Jax being the most explosive WR in the game today, but you are way off the mark about the others..(Maclin and Smith are good, but not great and both are coming off some health issues), Avant and Cooper are what they are (4th/5th Wr’s and probably don’t even make 1/3 of the NFL Teams Rosters)
    I think the bigger point your missing here is that the Saints OL is much better, Their HC S Peyton is a much better play caller than AR/MM and bottom line D Brees is a better all-around QB than VIck is.. He is a better decision maker
    Now the Saints WR Corps is M Colston, D Henderson, L Moore and R Meachem and as a grop put right up with the Eagles , and thieir TE Jimmy Graham is going to have a break out season and be an All-Pro for the next 6-8 years. and also have the stready reliable Davis Thomas for blocking and Red-Zone. Now at RB, you have a healthy Pierre Thomas, Darren SProles, and Top DRaft Pick M Ingram who just may win the Offensive Rookie of the Years

    So when I look at Comparison of Offenses between the Saints & Eagles
    I actually have the Saints rates higher due to better OL, better QB, better TE, and having comparable WR and RB Corps and then when you have a HC/OC Of Sean Peyton over Coach AR/MM, it’s definitely in the Saints Favor from top to bottom looking at the big picture…

  • Saints after thfirst hald last season were down thier 4th RB after losing P Thomas, & R Bush to inhjuries last Season and their is no doubt that D Brees play did slip a little and the entire Saints team did (A little Super Bowl Hangover)
    But they went out and add a Stud in MArk Ingram, repalced the up and down, moosy R Bush with a reliable professional in D Sproles and then have the Reliable and tough RB in Pierre Thomas.. This RB group is probably one of the best RB’s groups in the NFL .. The other State that is mis-leading is the EAgles Rushing YArds, when you take VIcks scrambles, and his 675 Yards and almost 7 Yards per rush avg per scramble, it skews the numbers … The EAgles are a better rushing team, but the problem is that they only rush 35% of the time so they don’t really take advantage of McCoy and especially the back-ups who rarely even get enough carries to get into a rhythm.. Just like a WB needds to get into a Rythm, so do RB’s and when you only get 12-15 Carriers a game, It’s difficult for a RB to find his groove and back-up RB R Brown will be luck to get 5-7 Touches a game basically wasting his talents..

  • Forgive my dear Eagle brothers, for I have just sat an read a disortation on why a team that let a 7-9 team bounce them out of the playoffs and who is so much better than us.

    That is not my sin though for said team truely is good. My sin is that I continued to read and allowed my eyes to be damned as they took in the words of another man who gosh dang nabbit dressed down my ever freaking loving Eagles Players on an ever freaking loving Eagles oriented website, visited by ever freaking loving Eagles Fans.

    To appease the Eagle Gods, I will walk twenty miles in my nakey nakey and whip my back until said evil is forged from my ever freaking loving Eagles mind, and said Eagles Football dieties will have mercy on my football soul.

    Thats my story and I am sticking to it!

    Hay Paul you left out how ugly our cheerleaders are compared to the Cowgirls, and how the saints Cheerleaders have a better dance routine. Don’t leave out how harder workers the field crew is in Tampa.

    Now Paul, your still my website homeboy thats just how it is cuz, still you dressed our whole damn roster down what was I suppose to do brother. If my brother is a bit slow and you yell out that he is a retard, well hell then I have an obligation under the laws of family to jab you one in the kisser.

    So here you go….whap, pow, bang, jab poof, pop, pop, smack. Now let that learn you a thing or two.

    As always “LONG LIVE THE EAGLES”

    P.S. the last post not bad.

  • To Monolith,
    I have to tell it like it is and right now I don’t how anyone who follows football would claim the Eagles offense to be superior the Saints with all the issues going on along the Eagle OL and having players like Maclin/Smith really having little practice time.. I think the Eagles will be a good offense team the 2nd half of the Season, but I thik they will be pretty ugly to watch the first 4-6 weeks of the Season.
    And the reassons I say this are bascially because Coach AR/MM are not going to change their play-calling or their philosophy, it’s who they are and frankly, I don’t ever see them winning a Super Bowl with a 65% to 35 % Pass to run Ratio, In fact, Vick won’t last 10 games throwing the ball this often..
    It’s just not true and I have to call them like I see them..

  • But keep up the good work Mono and your optimism…

  • Ah Paul, relax I was smiling the whole time. You do call it like you see it though thats good, some of us see it different thats cool also. Still dude you dressed our team down like you were from another team fan base. Maclin not that good? Smith either? Avant is just that a 4th WR? Running rati….blah yah yah. I get it. I’m just pulling on your chain to keep you honest or else you mind really spin out of control and go Carolina Panther on us, and well that wouldjust to much right now.

    Haaa, take care brother, have a great Labor day and above all be safe out there. Same to the rest of you guys be safe so we can argue another day.

    Later Eagles Bro’s

  • I didn’t say Maclin and Smith were not that good,I stated they were good, but not great.. I also stated that Avanat and Cooper would have a tough time making many other teams rosters and I stand by that.. Avanat is a class act, and a good player, but he is too slow and can be blanketed by an athletic LB which is not good for a WR.. Cooper to me is just a reserve, back-up and nothing special at all in my book..
    5 Eagles signed to Practice Squad – WR C Hall, FB S HAvilli, OL D Reynolds, LB G Lloyd and DE Teo Neisham.. (they have 3 more they can sign to Practice squad and I imagine DT C Thornton will be added and possibly another RB or TE in case of Imjuries ..

    Panther released DE Everett Brown who never panned out as a pass-rusher for them after being a 2nd Round Pick from 2-3 years ago..
    But here are 4 players they did pick-up from other teams
    DT Marcus Harison from the Bears, DE G Selvie from the Rams,
    CB Josh Thomas from the Cowboys (who I liked out of University of Buffalo)
    Safety Steve Brown from the Raiders
    WR S Ajiroututu from the Chargers
    OL/G Max Jean GIlles from the Bengals..

    Panthers placed their Starting RG (G Scwartz) and his back -up RG (Gary WIlliams) on season-ending IR list this weekend and they are now hurting at the Guard Position

    in order to pick-up these players, they released WR D Clowney, DE/OLB Thomas Keiser who was an undrafted Free-agent out of Stanford who I liked out of college.. I am not sure he’s athletic enough to LB at the NFL Level but he’s a tough kid and always is around the ball..

  • Same to you Mono

    Here’s a RB’s name to keep in mind for Eagles Practice Squad..
    Josh Vaughn who was released by the PAnthers (who have D WIlliams,J Stewart and M Goodson all ahead of him) but I saw this guy over the last 2 Summer Camps and he’s a very good runner and receiver out of the backfield. he is from Unirsity of Richmond and was on Panthers Practice squad..
    and 1 more tid-bit of news about a former Eagle, remember RB Joquie Bell who the Eagles grabbed from the Bills last season and had on the practice once or twice over the Season and then the Saints grabbed him late in the years when they lost most of their backs to injury, well Joquie Bell has a grea tcamp and is now the 3rd RB on the Saints Depth Chart and they really like what they see in him.. Remember this name this Season for I predict he will see significant actimid-season for the Saints

  • The Patriots releasing Brandon Merriweather is infuriating. What does that say about your team and drafting abilities when you can release Pro Bowlers? This is why I bitch about Reid because of his mediocrity at drafting.

  • Wm…my bad man I meant to get back to you. I was busy doing some chemistry homework and looked on my schools website and realized the secretary of the science dept inadvertently dropped me from my chemistry lab class which was already overbooked. I’m a little pissed right now and can’t do anything until Tuesday which is the day I have the 8:00am lab class. I honestly cant say – shooting from the hip I’d say keenan clayton or trevor laws I dont know. I’ll have to check their stats but laws would prolly get the boot from me.

  • Like the roster choices for most part. Hopefully the Oline can gel quickly. If that happens and Vick gets better protection, AND the team has no serious injuries, I think it’s a strong contending team. It’s fine if the team progresses, but has Reid’s game-day coaching improved finally?

  • Why would you guys want to bring in another undersized player. Maybin is a DE, but ways 225LBS. Come on guys. We have to go with what we have now. It’s too little too late, to get any difference makers. Maybin is a bum! Stop it already. Our LB’s are who they are! No use bitching about it anymore, it is only going to give us ulcers! No better than 9-7! Hope i’m wrong!

  • Rocko, he came into camp 225lbs. That’s why he isn’t with a team.

  • You have some good points and some things are incorrect, and you don’t like to give your team much credit because you fear they will not meet your standards. That’s the conclusion I have come up with in terms of what you write. I really believe you love the Eagles and think he world of them, but you shield yourself for the letdown that has been consistent, unfortunately.

    Keep in mind, that I state the facts, and I agree with your offensive line fact: NO is better than PHI along the OL. Basing it off of last season, you are wrong when it comes to the numbers, and we both got eliminated in the first round of the playoffs (We lost to the Champs, they lost to Seattle…ouch)

    It is a prediction that you think Jimmy Graham will be a stud and elite caliber tight end. It is not a fact, and we have seen many players come and go with the athleticism, talent, and potential (whether they succeeded or busted is another topic).

    You are over-analyzing an improved playoff team in the Eagles, but not the Saints. Different players, coaches, and schemes, and like I said before, we are not the Saints and the protocol offense, we are unorthodox and explosive.

    We know what we have in Brees, but there is no excuse for throwing 21 interceptions, none whatsoever. As for Vick, the guy was thrown into the starting role and his conditioning was obviously not tip top, or else he wouldn’t have worn down. He is still developing, and I do believe our plays were limited because of him. He is learning what he didn’t in Atlanta, head in the playbook, watching film, and is prepared to start and is the face of the franchise now.

    Saints have no proven running backs, you speak well of TE Graham (played in 11 games) and RB Ingram (whose played as much as Watkins and Kelce), and are quick to praise their franchise and put down ours. Granted, running backs can be plugged in to produce right away, he is no LeSean McCoy (2nd in all-purpose yards in all of football)…yet at least.

    Ronnie Brown, we know what he brings to the table and he is proven, he has made a Pro Bowl. Dion Lewis is a rookie, I won’t make a prediction for the purpose of this conversation, but Pierre Thomas and Darren Sproles in comparison is ridiculous. Sure, they may have similar roles on their respective teams, but the production isn’t there for New Orleans paulman.

    Wide Receivers…the Saints are solid at that position for their system, and maybe even Colston wouldn’t make the same impact elsewhere (And I like him). We have 3 Pro Bowl caliber WRs whether you like them or not, which confuses me because they are proven and own your favorite team. Brent Celek had a Pro Bowl caliber season catching the football, and basically played offensive line last season…tell me he isn’t closer to complete than he was before. We gave the ball to Harbor on a reverse in the preseason, and showed flashes last season catching some passes down the middle (although very limited playing time to go off of, so the jury is still out on him, as it is on Graham, Ingram, Watkins, and Kelce).

    You like to keep things one-sided or compare to the media’s perception of average, the Saints are explosive and a top offense in this league no doubt about it. But to say they are better because they have the standard QB that plays by the book, and the head coach that won a Superbowl shows what you prefer, not necessarily better.

    It is obvious we are a better run blocking offensive line, perhaps reflecting on the Patriots, Colts, Saints, and Packers winning is the reason for it. The reason for getting Howard Mudd out of retirement, signing Ronnie Brown, and if you noticed, all preseason we worked on the west Coast offense and the running game (it was ugly, but it wasn’t our explosive/home run offense). I think we are working on stuff and this is what these coaches do every single day, year in and year out, Andy Reid can grow as well and may very well be the a Superbowl winning coach before his days in Philadelphia are over.

    Keep in mind, the Steelers and Packers were in the Superbowl and have mediocre offensive lines. Pittsburgh’s star center Pouncey got injured and they had to roll with a backup. They just had the right QBs, skills position players for their schemes, and elite defenses, sound familiar?

    Our offensive line, give them a chance. Peters is a stud. Herremans is a good starter in this league. We just have more questions because this is a new unit, but we have backups with experience in Justice and Jackson. Our linebackers, give them a chance. Chaney racked up tackles last year, and Casey Matthews doesn’t want to be a failure behind his grandfather, father, and his brother. He was born to play this game and is not Patrick Willis, or is he? See, we wouldn’t know because he has only played in preseason games. Even after the next 2 seasons the kid will still be developing whether he is a Pro Bowler or not. I don’t hear you stripping down the Saints LBs with an overrated Vilma (although I like him for Fantasy Football purposes), and their secondary doesn’t stand out, and neither does their defensive line. We have them beat defensively, and the wildcard is Juan Castillo, give the man a chance to coach a regular season game before you assume he can’t do it or that he’s on his way out. I will say that defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is one of the better coaches and they have the edge there right now. But not anywhere else, but if you must I’ll give you Vilma on their corps lol.

    We didn’t go out and acquire slouches.
    Meshing together? That’s for the offensive line.
    Defense? Do what you’ve always done individually and play your role.
    Nnamdi Asomugha, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Cullen Jenkins, Jason Babin. 4 Pro Bowlers.
    That will clearly improve our last-ranked red zone defense.
    Trent Cole has help along the line, and anything Brandon Graham contributes this year is a cherry on top. Constant pressure on the quarterback and occupying blockers to free up the linebackers in the run game (as the season goes on).
    We all know a defensive line makes the back 7 better instantly, but a great secondary makes a front 7 better than they would be too.
    3 Pro Bowl CBs, Coleman is a tackling machine and around the ball, Allen is good when healthy, Page is serviceable and I though he did well in Kansas City, and Jarrett is a rookie with potential.

    Nice depth huh? I know, but without looking can you tell me the Saints secondary players? lol. I think we loaded up similarly to GB, whereas if we had an injury at any position, we would have an adequate replacement (especially at the skills positions, but don’t overlook the trenches either) or anyone were to go down, we would expect similar production from starting caliber players. Players that could start on other teams.

    We’re elite and better than you want to admit, but that doesn’t mean I think we’ll go 16-0. I do think we will earn a top 2 seed and a bye, and will be playing at the very least, in the NFC Championship game. I personally feel we will be in the Superbowl against San Diego, and Vick-torious.

    If you would like an email (it’s cool if you don’t care) of my team-by-team/week-by-week predictions, playoffs, and awards, I will be done and condense my countless sheets (paper and on Microsoft Word, I do it every season) into a final prediction sheet. I could sent you a copy for you to fill in yourself, just email me at wmonell@yahoo.

    I respect your opinions and we’re all cool on here, so I have no problem saying that my perspective is glass half full/pro-Eagles, whereas some of you are cautious and skewed toward the opposition for the most part because of the question marks we do have, which is not as many as other teams you would consider playoff ready and/or contenders.

  • The Eagles just picked up another guard.

    I know you guys will say I’m negative, but the way our offensive line played last season, there’s no reason we should still be trying to figure out who will play on the offensive line one week before the opener.

    Come on now!!!!

    We just cut a player to make room for another guard because the Eagles do not have confidence and need insurance for their 1st round pick. And that’s te problem with getting the 1st round wrong.

    Most teams draft 1st round for a starter to impact the team immediately and when that doesn’t pan out, the ripple effects other areas of the roster.

    I’ll go on record and say Watkins will be a bust in Philadelphia and finally prosper with another team.


    He’s a run mauler!!!!

    We pass the ball!

    Players like Watkins pass protect better after wearing guys down through the run and everyone here knows Andy will drop back to pass the majority of the time.

    This Watkins have slow feet and he’s at an disadvantage if asked to pass block continuously.

    I went back and just looked at him in the last preseason game and guess what?

    This guy had problems against 2nd and 3rd teamers on the inside.

    The defensive tackles in NFC east will have him for breakfast.

    Defensive ends will stunt on the inside and leave him flatfooted.

    It’s a shame because he could be a good offensive lineman with a team like the Steelers or any other team that values the run game …but he’s not made for the Eagles.

    Andy’s philosophy puts the offensive line at an disadvantage…it also put the defense at a disadvantage by not giving them time to catch their breath by a patient run game.

    If Andy change..this team can win and Watkins may flourish.

    But is their anyone here who believes he will change?

  • songs, i think this year andy will be forced to change (at least a little bit more) . if pass protection continues to have problems he will have to run the ball with 3 high quality backs . but i will not hold my breath!

  • The Scorpion and the Frog is a fable about a scorpion asking a frog to carry him across a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out that this is its nature. The fable is used to illustrate the position that the behaviour of some creatures is irrepressible, no matter how they are treated and no matter what the consequences.

  • on the Andy reid running the ball thing, what about the ‘three headed monster’ year with Staley, Buckhalter, and Westbrook. That trio finished the year with 20 rushing TDs, 7 receiving TDs, 2465 total yards, 1618 rushing and 847 receiving. Reid IS capable of doing it. And with all the talent in the backfield, it’s possible.

  • bsm, thanks for that contribution. While that’s a valuable fable, a fable is a simple lesson created hundreds of years ago to teach kids a story – it’s not the ‘end all’. Fact is, neuroscience has clearly shown us otherwise – the human brain (and therefore behavior and emotions) is capable of change at any age and almost in any circumstance. It’s proven fact. You still wet your bed at night? What I though ‘once a bedwetter, always a bedwetter’. A fable is akin to a myth – well intended to teach a lesson through story, but not always true or accurate about the world/life.

    If you were to take the tortoise and the hare for absolute truth, than I’d be a better WR for the Eagles than Desean Jackson.

  • songs, you are negative and here’s why. You start with this “what would be the ideal/best case scenario/perfection for the Eagles”. Your conception of the team starts there. And then you look at this team, and search for flaws that subtract from that initial ideal you set. That’s who you think of things.

    An optimist starts at the reality – the Eagles have a ton of talent, a coach that get’s them close but not ‘there’ almost every year, a lot of new talent, a lot of challenging transitions, some questionmarks/weakness at OL, LB and safety and some overall philosophy/coaching styles that sometimes work against them. AND NOW, what have they done to address that. Well they added a guy who know’s the OL system who can provide depth or step in if one of the guards (both new) doesn’t work out.

    So you start from an unrealistic standpoint and then search for negatives.

    Whereas an optimist starts from reality, and looks for solutions/potential improvements.

    Your way never touches reality, it goes from fantasy to doom and gloom.

    Shit, do you look at a chick lik Gisell Bunchen (Brady’s baby Momma) and say ‘well damn, it would be so hard to take her out to dinner, she’s probably so fussy about what she eats” and “It would suck to be getting ready to go out for the night with her, she probably takes 5 hours to leave and never leaves on time”…? Yeah, I bet that’s how you’d approach that.

  • 2 spots left guys. I’ve been out of the country. Send me an email for an invite astuckey05 @ gmail. com . Draft is Wed at 8pm.

  • well…. my chal lasted all of like 1 post but whatever. Im glad Pman tore our team a new one. This is the same guy who ripped our phills and lists the panthers every year.

  • *lifts

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