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Reid Won’t Comment On Spagnuolo Report And Coleman Is Put On IR

Eagles head coach Andy Reid refused to comment on the report that Rams current head coach Steve Spagnuolo will become the team’s defensive coordinator after he is fired by the Rams at the end of the season.  It’s not a shock that Reid would avoid responding to the report.

Eagles safety Kurt Coleman has been placed on IR because of a torn bicep.  I like Coleman because of his football savvy and willingness to do whatever it takes to get the job done.  He doesn’t have the speed to be an elite safety but I think he’s good guy to have around as a backup.

I know Coleman regrets not playing against the Redskins because he had a career day in the first game versus Washington this season.  The safety had three interceptions and was the NFC Defensive Player Of The Week.

Rookie safety Jaiquawn Jarrett will get the start at the safety position this week for the Birds.  This will be the second start of his career and you can expect the Redskins to go after him with some play action passes.

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andrew p
andrew p
December 28, 2011 3:46 pm

Now when does Reid ever not jump at the chance to squash a rumor? I just hope its true, to bring someone in here whos D was given all the credit getting them to the SB then shutting down a team that went in that game undefeated plus a QB who set a record that year throwing 50tds? that kind of resume will get the attention and respect from the players. And for those Castillo lovers who think it would be a bad idea to start over? Go take a look at how the Texans are playing in their first year under Wade Phillips. Wade was a terrible HC but that man sure could run a D! Same with Spags! Eagles should pick him up at the airport the day hes fired!

schiller
schiller
December 28, 2011 4:03 pm

Andrew – I’m not sure there’s any Juan Castillo lovers out there at all (ok, I know one and his name is in the title of this article).

Anyway – the giants D didn’t really sut down anyone in that superbowl. See – another example of how Spags is put on a pedastal and desperate fans elevate him beyond what he is. It’s true that that Giants D was very good – particularly the front 7, but their secondary wasn’t the great at all, and they needed that miraculous David Tyree play to win the superbowl. It wasn’t a defensive shutting down by the Giants by any means. Come on man

andrew p
andrew p
December 28, 2011 4:16 pm

schiller, forget the tyree play, what did Brady& Moss do that game? If the secondary sucked and those guys didnt put up any points or numbers then your proving my point, it was about the scheme and thats my whole point! I agreed with you in the other post about schemes are what its really about, if Spags put together a SCHEME that beat an undefeated team in the SB whos QB set throwing records that year then i’ll take him if hes available over what we got.

Erock
Erock
December 28, 2011 4:27 pm

So what was it Shill? The Pats didnt even get going until the 4th. Everyone in the free world after the game talked about how the Giants d played. Tuck shoulda been the MVP.They shut down the Pats pass attack with pressure up the middle.They took away the deep ball early. Brady was hit in the mouth early and often.

Asante dropped a pick on the sidelines in that game during the game winning drive. But the Giants defense really limited the Pats early and made it a ballgame. Tuck,OSI,and Stahan all had great games. The backers played solid and Corey Webster was having an all-pro year. It was the players that made that defense but the pieces gotta be put together.Spags is great at that. I think Juan adds alot to this defensive staff and should be allowed to keep a job on the defense.But if the chance is there to bring in Spags and run his system then do it. Its pressure and press.How hard is that too learn? Specially with a full off-season.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
December 28, 2011 4:32 pm

Who gives a bleep about something that happened 4 seasons ago….Bottom line the team he coaches now is ass and if released he’ll be released for a reason!

schiller
schiller
December 28, 2011 4:38 pm

I’m just saying, shutting a team down, and giving up 14 points in the superbowl are two different things. I agree the giants D played well that game and I always have.

Andrew P – Well Brady and Moss hooked up for 5 receptions, 62 yards and a TD. Welker caught 11 for 103 yards. Maroney ran one in two. In the wikipedia recap – the Giants had several costly penatlies on D including a pass interference and a 12 men on the field during a 4-1 punting situation that gave the pats a first down.

Nobody questioned the dominance of the Giants Dline during that game. But the D overall played just well enough to keep the team in the game. Just saying – it’s wrong to say that the Giants D dominated the pats during the superbowl….

andrew p
andrew p
December 28, 2011 4:42 pm

I’m with you 100% Erock! If Spags is there its a no brainer to pick him up, you can move Castillo to linebacker/asst D coach or something. And no, its not that hard to learn a new system, look whats going on with the Texans, Wade Phillips goes in there and puts a brand new system in there and look at what their D is doing, they went from a 4-3 to a 3-4 with no OTAs, people have to start realizing this is all about coaching and knowing what kind of players you have and playing them to their strengths.

schiller
schiller
December 28, 2011 4:47 pm

Look, the FO will make a decision on DC. I’d be perfectly happy if they went with Spags. I’d also be OK if they stick with Juan (because I believe that with the young guys, hopefully a linebacker addition, and a solution in the secondary for the Asante/DRC jam, they can be better.

But I do take issue with people equating spags with a defensive coordinator god. He’s a good one and had some indisputible success with the giants that year. that’s about it.

Erock
Erock
December 28, 2011 4:50 pm

Good points Shill. Holding a team to that amount of points is a pretty nice day for a d though.F the Giants anyway.

More then a new d-cord they need a a$$ kicking,mean mugged,tattoo having,250-60LB backer.

Erock
Erock
December 28, 2011 4:51 pm

Enter Paulmandomis’s prediction of the Eagles hiring Chuck Cecil for d-cord.

andrew p
andrew p
December 28, 2011 4:53 pm

Realtalk777, Some people arent HC material, look at Wade Phillips, horrible head coach everywhere he went but at the same time everywhere he went as a D-Coordanator his teams rank near the top, can you honestly say you would want Castillo if a credable guy is out there? Did you watch when we played Chicago this year? Mike Martz made a fool out of Castillo, it was a joke! I cant remember the last time i saw someone get outcoached like that. Do you really think he improved to the point where he can adjust against somebody like him? I sure dont! everybody talks about the improvement, but that one game said it all, Castillo wouldnt stand a chance against experienced coordinators!

schiller
schiller
December 28, 2011 5:02 pm

Andrew – I hear you, and if this was a situation where we were firing McDermott tomorrow, and reviewing two options, Castillo and Spagnuolo, DUH, I’d choose Spags too. But your statement “..but that one game said it all” – STOP RIGHT THERE – If you believe in one game saying it all for anyone or anything in the NFL, that pretty much proves that your conments should be disregarded because you don’t understand the NFL. One game in the NFL CANNOT say it all – except maybe for the superbowl saying it all about a given season.

One game coached in 2011 does NOT ‘say it all’ for how the coach can perform in the following seasons.

Come on man

andrew p
andrew p
December 28, 2011 5:13 pm

Schiller, Its not about Spags, i dont care who it is, we just need experience, and its not just about one game in 2011, The Patiorts are another, how bout the 5 games we lost going into the 4th with the lead? I was only using the Bears as an example of how behind he is compared to experience coaches, that wasnt even close and when you hit the playoffs thats all you go up against, i just believe hes more suited for a rebuilding team then a team thats a playoff team.

paulman
paulman
December 28, 2011 5:18 pm

I believe Martz and the Bears have made the Eagles Defense look bad over the last few young years whether it was JJ, McDermott and CAstillo.. They seem to have Philly’s # and even back to the Buddy Ryan’s Days…
It’s kind of funny, I never can recall so much talk and hate about a Coordinator..
Position , like Juan Castillo.. I still say it’s the players more so than the Coach.. but that’s just me…This is a very weak LB Corp and a very soft Secondary the Eagles have (perhaps the softest hitting Secondary in all of Football) besides learning on the go as a game planner on Defense, I am not so sure that Castillo can really evaluarte talent properly which is critical for a Coordinator to be able to do, so you can help elevate the talent level of your squad your repsonsible to coach…

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
December 28, 2011 5:25 pm

I hear you Drew…But the one constant all DC’s have over Castillo is in game coaching experience…And if I had one issue to nit pick with Castillo it would be his in game adjustments…More experience he’ll get better…Now I’m not saying I want the Eagles to keep Castillo…In truth I’m a bit torn, I think Castillo has shown he can do some good things, but if the Eagles can get someone better, I’m all for it..But again, replacing Castillo won’t guarantee an improvement.

Stevo
Stevo
December 28, 2011 5:34 pm

oh- the party was moved over here. Shill- youve been at this all day. For the 50th time- noone cares what the name of the DC will be- we just want 1. we dont have 1 now and you cant win games without 1.

Stevo
Stevo
December 28, 2011 5:40 pm

i pointed it out on the other article BUT- the eagles players all came out and said that “juan is getting better”, im glad- i was worried that he would be sick forever. All jokes aside. We didnt need a coach to learn on the fly. we needed a coach. we need a coach. Ill take Cecil… ill take Spags….. ill take a turd out of coach Buddy Ryans pocket and name it the DC- anything….ANYTHING is better than this.

andrew p
andrew p
December 28, 2011 5:47 pm

Paulman, Its not about hate, and the reason why theirs so much talk about him is because our D lost 5 games this year going into the 4th quarter with leads, if the offence throws pick6 then thats one thing but in those games it was the D. If its more about the players than the coaching then how do you explain whats going on in San Fran? Or with the Texans? The only major changes on those teams were the D-Coaches they brought in, people, sometimes change is good, everybodys so scared that if we make some coaching changes were gonna get set back a few years, a perfect example of that not being true is in Tennesse, except for one less year they were in the same situation were in, HC there for 12yrs, took them to one SB, took them to the playoffs many time, always competitive, they fire him and everyone says its gonna take YEARS for that team to be legit again, and guess what? Its only ONE year later and the team is talking playoffs! Im not scared of change if thats what they deciede, as a matter of fact i think it would be good. Remember the Titans people!

schiller
schiller
December 28, 2011 6:03 pm

Stevo shut it with your cutesy little catch phrase. We did win games with the DC we have and you know it. So don’t continue with your nonsensical factually incorrect slogans.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 28, 2011 6:09 pm

Just a sec Andrew….wholesale changes to the Eagles’ D coaches led to problems, and the solution, according to Andrew, is another set of wholesalele coaching changes.

Houston and San Fran did not overhaul the players on their defenses along with their coaching staffs….as the Birds did.

It is the combination of changes, both staff and 8 new players on D that contributed to the Eagles’ early problems. In my opinion both should be kept as stable as possible heading in to next year (and they will)

Eagles’ coaching staff was clearly hoping an explosive offence would compensate while the D seasoned. This was clearly the mistake.

Stevo
Stevo
December 28, 2011 6:09 pm

lol- schill or what? youll take my lunch money? haha. We dont have 1.

Stevo
Stevo
December 28, 2011 6:10 pm

so vinnie- the reason the D was bad this year is because the O didnt carry them again? ok- sounds good- glad i got ya.

Stevo
Stevo
December 28, 2011 6:17 pm

This is seripously stupid. I really cant see how anyone is in Juans corner after this mess this year. IU mean….. I blame Andy 100% for this stupid stupid move. Schill blames the fans for wanting a DC and Vinnie (as always) blames Vick for not scoring 80 points a game. Its really unreal.

get a DC
get a MLB
get a clue.

schiller
schiller
December 28, 2011 6:52 pm

Stevo, at what point did I blame the fans?

andrew p
andrew p
December 28, 2011 7:03 pm

So Vinnie, you believe now that everybody is accustomed to each other we should just leave things as is? What are you smoking? Were hoping the team ends the season at 500, thats ok with you? I guess your one of those thats looking at these last 3 games and is thinking were on the right track, when you get time check out the QBs in those games, their wasnt a switch or light bulb that just went on an they became a good D, this guy doesnt have a clue on how to Scheme or make halftime adjustments, he would get eaten alive by the coaches from the teams that are in the playoffs,we need an experienced D-Cord plain an simple, if you dont see that then you dont have a clue.

Stevo
Stevo
December 28, 2011 7:04 pm

youve been calling all the fans that want spags stupid schill. been slamming me because you say this non DC-DC has “won games”.

jakedog
jakedog
December 28, 2011 7:12 pm

the fact of the matter is if the offense didn’t play so lousy when it was expected to be the strength early in the season, that it was the more cohesive unit, less moving parts, the talk on this board would be home field game one divisional playoffs instead of the defense and juan’ s status, Juan has done a good job at the end of the season, Vick and the offense are the culprits

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 28, 2011 8:10 pm

Absolutely Jakedog. This was supposed to be the unstoppable offence. But it was very stoppable.

I’m not looking for 80 pts Stevo. In the early 4 game losing streak that basically ended the Birds season the Eagles’ scored: 31 (fine) 16, 23, 24…In the other loses 24, 17, 20, 14….that’s 7 lossses with less than 24 pts scored.

On top of that there were the myriad of turnovers.

Go ahead and talk D all you want.

Lets look at the top teams in the NFC and see how many games they had 24 pts or less all season.

Top 3 teams all have statistically pretty bad defenses…and NE can only be described as abysmal.
GB 2 (record 1-1)
NO 4 (record 2-2)
Det 6 (record 1-5)
Atl 8 (record 3-5)

How about other NFC East teams:
NYG 7 (record 2-5)
Dall 8 (record 3-5)

Philly 10 (record 3-7)

Gee….this is really weird…teams that score less than 24 lose in the nfl. And the Birds scored less than 24 pts a whopping 10 times.

You must score points in the NFL nowadays when every rule in the book favours the O. The quarterback is the leader of the O. Our QB stinks, ergo, the offence sucks, ergo Birds lose. Every team that doesn’t score 24+ on a consistent basis doesn’t win on a consistent basis. And that’s the Birds.

The only aberration to this rule is SF, and don’t worry, they’re going nowhere in the playoffs. (precisely because they can’t score)

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 28, 2011 8:16 pm

Anyway, All I was stating was that with an entirely new coaching staff, and 8 new players on D, it was EXPECTED that the D would struggle and that the unstoppable superstar led offence was supposed to hold the fort during the transition period.

They didn’t.

schiller
schiller
December 28, 2011 8:35 pm

Stevo, who did I call stupid? I called certain statements stupid. But I didn not say those who want spags are stupid. I specificially said i’d be happy if they get spags. Can you read? And do you not realize the 7 wins? Does 7=0 to you? I feel like I could take a duece on your head and a minute later you’d swear that poop doesn’t come out of my ars.

Stevo
Stevo
December 28, 2011 8:50 pm

nope. i cant read.

paulman
paulman
December 28, 2011 9:39 pm

Good Data Vinnie and I have been saying this most of the Season on Deaf Ears that the Eagles Offense, led by QB VIck and all the Turnovers he and the WR’s committed killed this teams chances for a Playoff Run in 2012

Here’s the bottom line Stat
Eagles Offense rank 3rd in Total Offense in the NFL but only ranks 9th In Points Scored with 24 Per game.. WHo carss if you move the Football between the 20’s, It’s about Scoring Points and Scoring TD’s inside the Red-Zone and the Eagles Offense led by WB Vick failed miserbly in this department .. Take out RB McCoy Season and Red-Zone production and the EAgles would rank near the bottom of the NFL.. Vick is too slow in his descision making and it really becomes apparent once in the Red-Zone where the open spaces,time t othrow become that much quicker and honestly, VIck is not bright enough to perform and pick the nuances of QB up quick enough to be an effective Red-Zone QB, It just is the truth, and if he couldn;t run and use his legs, his Red-Zone Efficiency would be one of the worst of all time for QB in the NFL, he’s just absolutely horrible down there..
He always has been and always will be until lhe proves me wrong

jakedog
jakedog
December 28, 2011 9:56 pm

Vick gets a pass because he is a protected NFL player because of his marketability to a large sector of fans who will follow him, support him regardless of his production, and the same thing with Tebow, the NFL has become the WWF, a group of wealthy men who make decisions behind closed doors, scheme together how to change the rules of the game, more passing, more profits, where certain players are directed where to play, Vick was told to play in Philly, I still believe Reid was told to start him, same with Tebow, the NFL is a carefully orchestrated money maker and not based on the principle of pure competition, that’s why Vick, an average quarterback at best, is a so-called marquee quarterback and he is hands off just like McNabb before him

andrew p
andrew p
December 28, 2011 10:01 pm

Vinny, Paulman, you can throw all the O stats you want but heres the bottom line, the D blew five 4th quarter leads for us this year, its the first time in EAGLE HISTORY this ever happen, are you guys serious or what? again, FIRST time in EAGLE HISTORY! What a nice way for Castillo to get into the record books. Again, you dont just look at a few games when you evaulate (like the last 3 like you guys want to do,) you look at the whole body of work (all 16 games), you can show all the stats you want too but heres the bottom line, we didnt make the playoffs this year and the D is the main reason why.

paulman
paulman
December 28, 2011 10:29 pm

I remember 4 of these Loses going a little like this Andrew P
#1) 49ers – 2 short Missed FG’s by Eagles Kicker Henery which would have put the game away
#2) Falcons – Coach AR & MM sitting on the lead with QB Kafka in during the the 4th Quarter and playing not to lose instead of getting more points helped the Falcons sustain their momentum and make the comeback possible
#3) Bears – Vick played like shit in th 4th Quarter and was outplayed by Bears Cutler
#4) Cardinals – Vick played poorly in the 2nd Half (albeit with a busted rib) and was outplayed by J Skelton

The Offense during their losses were every bit as repsonsible for the Eagles losing as well as thei rDefense, too many of you want to put all the blame on Castillo and the Defense instead of spreading it around the entire Team, Coaches and the Plyers which who are responsible.. You win as a team and lose as a team and like I’ve said a 1000 times all season long, with all the new piplayers,coaches and schemes being put into the place on the Defensive sdide of the ball with this 2011 Team, it was imperative that the Eagle Offense carry the load thru the first 6-8-10 weeks and they simply failed to do so.. End of Season, end of story.. So go ahead and blame Castillo all you want but If anyone thinks that Vick and the WR’s played at a consistentlu high level as a Playoff team you are joking yourselves for they struggled with Turovers and missed opportunites in the Rdd-Zone as bad as the Defense did in coughing up leads… When you add it all together, your 7-8 and home for the Playoffs..

Stevo
Stevo
December 28, 2011 10:42 pm

Vick gets no pass. And neither does this oline coach who blew 5 4th quater leads.

paulman
paulman
December 28, 2011 11:19 pm

No one should get a pass which is why the Eagles are 7-8
I wouild like to hear Vick take a little accountability for the Teams Shortcomigns though.. Even one if he came out and stated, ” I didn’t play as well as I hoped and needed to play to win us some games:.. that’s all, why is it so hard for him to show a little humility once in a while instead of arrogant statements that he makes.. i was really pulling for him last year, but this Season as soon as he got that big deal, Vick to me has reverted back to the old thug type where it’s everybody’s else’s fault – Atlanta Style – and that’s not the leader I want for the Eagles.. .

jakedog
jakedog
December 28, 2011 11:28 pm

This eagles franchise, team, its ownership, front office, head coachand players is about as anti philly as any philly franchise in town ever, complete disconnect to the fans, the city, it is frustrating that our once favorite team is the most divisive for the fan base

andrew p
andrew p
December 29, 2011 12:14 am

Paulman was it Vick that made Skelton look like an all-pro? if the D would of did their job no missed field goals would of been needed, yes its a team game and the turnovers killed us but when its all said n done the D never kept us in games, how many turnovers did they produce during that skid? This season is done and if this was suppose to be a rebuilding year i’d say bring everybody back and lets see if we can improve but that wasnt the case, this was the year we were all in to go all the way and since it turned into an utter failure heads are suppose to fall, thats the nature of the buisness. so my question is, if its not Reid then who?

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
December 29, 2011 12:24 am

Jake – solution – move the Eagles to LA – they want a new team – they are building a stadium – everyone on this site seems to swear the team is anti-Philly – why not just make the divorce happen? The LA fans would welcome the Birds with open arms! and you guys could laugh as Lurie, Reid, Banner, Roseman, and Castillo depart – we could even switch to ‘ Los Aguilas’

‘Los águilas han aterrizado’

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
December 29, 2011 12:26 am

Vinnie – you da man – but your facts arenot ‘clichable’ enough – you have got to be able to say it like ’24 or more – you in to win’ you no like Kool Aid – or Need a real DC – or football pedigree – the common folk don’t like to read and process real info – it complicates the hating process

larrwd
larrwd
December 29, 2011 6:17 am

theres no point in bringing in a defensive coordinator now..the seasons over the defense has gotten better .. so i have a great idea!!! lets go sign a new defensive coordinator so we can start all over from scratch next year.. some of you idiots dont think…

schiller
schiller
December 29, 2011 7:03 am

Wow that is some nice posting vinnie. I usually agree with your non-vick posts, even if I can count them on 1 hand. I do agree with your vick angle, but to a much lesser extent than you post it. I think your too extreme with your language on vick – he most certainly does not suck. But he is far from consistent, has barely matured past thinking of his ego 99% of the time, and has failed to make the improvements in his game that so many spoke of…

jott1972
jott1972
December 29, 2011 8:00 am

The Eagles have lost many of their fans due to poor coaching and they can’t relate to many of the defensive players on the current roster…
Juan has to go and be replaced by a reputable defensive coach to bring the fans trust back.

schiller
schiller
December 29, 2011 8:35 am

jott – when you say that the Eagles have lost many of their fans – what do you mean? I agree that many fans have voiced their displeasure, many have called for coaching firings and players to be cut, traded or whatever, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that any of those fans are ‘lost’. I think if the Eagles were to say, sign spagnuolo and draft a stud LB in the first round, plus sign one in free agency, extend Jackson and McCoy, and then win a few games early next year, that those ‘lost’ fans would be right back where they started. Are you a ‘lost’ fan? You’re posting about the team at 8:30 am on a thursday late in a lame duck season.

Many fans are disappointed (woah, in Philly? Really? that doesn’t happen every year, does it?) and even angry (ditto)…. but lost? uh, no

Even your post makes my point – you’re emotionally invested and you have your opinions about what you’d like them to do – not a lost fan.

jphalines
jphalines
December 29, 2011 8:40 am

Nice work Vinnie. Posts like that make the comment section worth reading.

jakedog
jakedog
December 29, 2011 9:19 am

navy, great idea, lurie can pack a couple of Mayflower moving trucks and haul it all out of here, except the eagles name and the Kelly green remain for new ownership that can build a Philadelphia eagles franchise like the town it represents, keep shady here though

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
December 29, 2011 9:57 am

I love the conspiracy theorists on here! LMAO — Bush orchestrated the planes to fly into the towers too didn’t he? LMAO

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
December 29, 2011 10:09 am

Keep Juan give him a couple LB’s and maybe DT or Safety ?
36 total points in the last 3 weeks is all they have given up..
We lead the league in sacks with 49 got DE’s with 28 total sacks..

Defense Struggled early in the season when we all watched the LB’s and Safeties suck azz…( I still see Jacobs on a wheel route scoring, I still see RB’s running at will on us )

If the Defense Holds the 10 point lead going into the 4th against ATL and doesn’t blow a 20 point lead to SF…NFC Champs and a home playoff game

2006 Packers were 4 and 8 then rallied to finish 8 and 8
2007 Packers went 13 and 3 NFC Championship game

paulman
paulman
December 29, 2011 10:44 am

Don’t forget Birdo… The Walrus was Paulman… ha