• October 5, 2022

2011 – Just Another Wasted Eagles Season

For the 2011 Eagles season, it was one filled with ups and downs, disappointment and excitement. The season featured much controversy as well as speculation regarding the job statuses off Andy Reid and first defensive coordinator Juan Castillo.

The Birds entered the season flying high with all the media attention focused all the new acquisitions made on the defensive side of the ball. Defensive lineman additions Cullen Jenkins and Jason Babin had coaches around the league wondered if their respective quarterback would be able to get any throws off if they had to face such a dynamic d-line core.

With the additions of Nhamdi Asomugha and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie matching up with Asante Samuel made this secondary on paper one of the best if not the best in the NFL. With all the player movements made in the offseason spectators were punching their tickets to Indianapolis for a highly anticipated SuperBowl appearance.

But eight losses later, a defense that can’t showup in the second half, and the franchises star quarterback goes down with a plethora of injuries made fans expectations a little pre-conceived.

Nonetheless, if you asked anybody around the league who was the favorite in the NFC and they would all answer saying the Eagles, no question. But with a defensive coordinator that was learning on the job and a number of playmakers that have never played together before, caused this team to have quite the rollercoaster of a season.

While the 2011 season for the Birds was quite the disappointment, it did lay the foundation for a team that could make a 2012 SuperBowl appearance next season.

8-8 is the stat that sticks out the most on the Birds trial-filled season, but if you take a deeper look at their finish the Birds started to find a way to win by season’s end. The Birds simply got hot at a too late. With five games left in the season it was said that the Birds playoff chances were “inconceivable,” but just before the Giants ended the Eagles playoff chances with a win against the Jets in week 16, the men in midnight green were on the brink of performing the “inconceivable.

Castillo had been under fire since the Birds Week 2 loss to the Falcons after the defense simply let that game get away from them in the second half. Ever since then question after question has been stirred up regarding Castillo’s performance as defensive coordinator, and is he the right guy to get this defense to play at their best.

Going 4-0 to finish the season and holding the opposition to an average of 11.5 ppg throughout that spand, Castillo looks as though he has finally figured out a scheme that not only had the Eagles playing well but absolutely dominating on the defensive side of the ball.

“If our focus is on trying to win a championship next year, the best coach for that is Andy,” Lurie said. With this statement being made by Eagles Chariman/CEO this gives a definitive answer as to whether or not Head Coach Any Reid will be back as head coach next season. As for the status of Castillo, it is still to be determined.

With Reid being back one would think that Castillo would as well. Reid is in charge of all coaching assignments, but does Reid really want to take another chance on having his job at steak again for the performance of the defense? Over the course of the season it was back and forth between who was going to get fired first, as well as when Reid will make a coaching change.

But Reid stuck behind the decision he made at the beginning of the season which was to keep Castillo where he is at as commander of the defense. Other possibilities for the position of defensive coordinator, was the thought of promoting defensive line coach Jim Washburn. Washburn’s work with the d-line has accounted for two double-digit sack players in Trent Cole (11.0) and Jason Babin(18.0) who were an outstanding one-two punch up the middle for the Birds all season. But Washburn has made it clear that he does not want that responsibility and would prefer to stay where he is at being a positions player coach.

As for the mood of the players, the tone in the locker seems to be rather optimistic in regard to their strong finish and being able to carry that momentum into next season. “It says that the guys have a lot of drive, a lot of attitude, and they’re confident. The season didn’t go the way we wanted it to. There’s no sugar coating that. Obviously we got the last four wins and that was great, but we wanted to be better sooner than we were,” Nhamdi Asomugha said of his team’s strong finish to the season. “A lot of times you can’t control a lot of the things that happen, but you can control your attitude. These guys controlled their attitude and stayed focused. To finish the way we did, you know, it’s something to be proud of.”

“Hopefully— We cant promise anything, but I know our plan is to work hard in the offseason. Our defense especially, and our offense—I know [Michael] Vick will have those guys right and [RB] LeSean McCoy and those guys will work hard to get things right,” LB Brian Rolle said.

The defensive side of the ball for the Birds is looking forward to next season and being able to go out on the field and perform the way they “should have played this season.” It hasn’t been made public what defensive areas that the Eagles are looking to address in the off-season. Based on the way they started versus the way they finished it is hard to tell what positions they need to necessarily better.  At the end of the day the organization will make moves based on how consistent players can be at their respective position.

Collectively the Birds evolved as a team similar to the performance of coach Juan Castillo did as offensive coordinator. As a defense they improved on the mistakes that they made at the beginning of the season and the finished product at the end of the season seemed to be one that was SuperBowl. But the big question at the end of the day is can that same team come out next season with the same caliber-play. At the same time will Reid take another chance on Castillo, and for that matter can Castillo show that he can command the defense to victory week in and week out.

If I’m Reid I have a lot of things to think about for next season regarding my coaching staff. It would be hard to fire a close friend in Castillo, but at the same time do I really want to jeopardize my job security if I keep him in there as defensive coordinator. In my opinion, next season will be Reid’s last chance at a SuperBowl title in Philadelphia. You have the star quarterback, you have the big defensive free agent signings, and you have an all-pro run-game as well as the receivers to make a run deep into the playoffs. If the defense does not come out ready to play next season the question will be Castillo or not Castillo.

Colin Washington

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DCar
DCar
January 3, 2012 8:22 pm

So will next year, unless Spags replaces Cluelesstillo, they have a monster draft & they sign a good veteran Safety, Lb, & either Bowe, V-Jax, or Colston.

andrew p
andrew p
January 3, 2012 9:32 pm

DCar, what did Joe Banner say the definition of insanity was again?

drummerwinslow
January 3, 2012 9:36 pm

“Reid’s record since losing to the Patriots in Jacksonville is 62-49-1. That’s a winning percentage of .559, which means average seasons at 9-7.

In that time, younger head coaches like Sean Payton in New Orleans, Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh and Mike McCarthy in Green Bay have “SPED” by Reid to win Super Bowls.”

As far as I’m concern, 9-7 Kool-Aid just doesn’t cut the mustard, especially when I consider all the money spent and how weak the NFC East has been. They’re the only teams we can beat. Has any team EVER gone 5-1 in their division and missed the playoffs?

paulman
paulman
January 3, 2012 9:50 pm

Believe it or not Drummer, the Oakland Raiders went 6-0 in the AFC West last season still failed to make the Playoffs.. (my Boss is a huge Raider fan and we are always busting chops on each other on which team’s worse, the Raiders or the Eagles and of Course he has to run it in that the Eaider beat our Eagles in that 1980 Super Bowl when the Raiders were a WIld-Card team and the Eagles were the best team in the entire NFL that Season and playes their worst game in front of the bright lights.. I often wonder how the History of the Eagles Franchise would have went if the Eagles were able to play their game and beat the Raiders that day.. To me as a life-long Eagle Fan, that was the single most disappointing game in Eagle History, bar none.. Remember how Tight Coach Vermiel and the entire team were and by the time they lossened up and started to play decent ball, it was too late…
but that’s another story for another time which many of today’s younger Eagle fans don’t even know much about..

Stevo
Stevo
January 3, 2012 9:52 pm

How dare they say a D that doesn’t show in the 2nd half. They were 8th in the league don’t you know? And they won 4 streight. In fact- they would have won the superbowl had they not run out of games.

All kidding aside. I hope andy gets a clue and hires a DC. We got smashed by the seahawks, cards, and others. Nuff said.

paulman
paulman
January 3, 2012 10:00 pm

I think Spags has 5 % Chanve of coming to Philly as the DC..
I don’t think he wants anything to do with Washburn and his Wide 9 Scheme and Coach AR is not gong to fire DL Washburn to bring in Spags for he may lose OL Coach Mudd by doing so.. I think the entire group is back for 2012 for 1 last run at it and I still think that Coach MM may move own given the opportunity.. I think the Colts could be very interested in Marty given that he’s he’s recognized as a great QB Coach and if they inverst the #1 Pick in QB A Luck, why not hire as your next HC a guy who specializes in working with QB’s .. Of course it depends who the Colts hire as GM, but Marty has that no-nonsense type of approach that would go over well in Indy who doesn’t really need or look for that big type of ego kind of HC like some other Franchises do…
Remember the Title that MM currently holds is Asst Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator and what this means is that MM could only interview (while under Contract) for a Position which would be a Promotion which would be a Head Coaching Position and of course the Eagles would have to give permission for that to occur

schiller
schiller
January 3, 2012 10:02 pm

andrew, that expression – doesn’t it undermine its wisdom if you consider that it’s false? That’s not the definition – its far from the definition of insanity. According to that saying, Trent Cole should quit football. According to that saying, Abraham Lincoln should not have ran for president, a woman should never run for president, and many smokers shouldn’t try to quit smoking.

paulman
paulman
January 3, 2012 10:11 pm

I predict the only termination on the Eagles Coaching Staff is Secondary Coach Johnny Lynne and that Coach MM may leave on his own if the right opportunity arises though he knows Coach AR is in deep do-do if they fail to win in 2012 and out of loyalty, Coach MM may stay for the 2012, and especially with his son going up the road to State College for School, I would think Coach MM would want to stay relatively close by..

drummerwinslow
January 3, 2012 10:57 pm

A couple of excerpts from Didinger:

Lurie has experience with late-season mirages because when he bought the Eagles in May of 1994, he inherited Rich Kotite as his coach. In ’93, the Eagles opened with four straight wins then lost eight of nine before winning the last three to finish 8-8. It was a weird season with no sense of direction, but when it came time to evaluate, Lurie felt the winning streak at the end was important.

“I told Rich he was my coach of the year for the way he kept the team together,” Lurie said at the time.

*******

Let’s look at the 2011 season as a whole. The Eagles played five games against teams that finished with winning records: Atlanta, the Giants (twice), San Francisco and New England. The Eagles were 1-4 in those five games, so if the idea is to measure yourself against the better teams, the Eagles come up short.

The last good offense the Eagles faced was the Patriots’, and it rolled up 450 total yards in little more than three quarters. Bill Belichick lifted Tom Brady with seven minutes to go or else the final score (New England 38, Eagles 20) would have been worse. It was a complete beat down and I believe if the teams played again next week, the result would be the same.

paulman
paulman
January 3, 2012 11:43 pm

If Vick is a “Star QB’ Colin as you suggest, then I suggest that he better start playing like one for he sures as hell didn’t in 2011..
The Big question remains for Coach AR is that if 2012 is indeed a do or die season (which I believe it is) does Andy have the confidence and time on his side to bring in another D/coordinator the he may not even know well to bring in yet again new schemes,formaions,terminaology,etc,etc.. I don’t think so.. CoachAR knows his back is to a wall and if he is going to go down, he is going to go down with his guys (it’s how he operates) and if it doesn’t work out, then at least in his own mind, he did it his way.. again when you peel the layers away from Coach AR, this is how he operates.. He’s very loyal, and he’s is going to hunker down and fight his way out of the bunker, but it will be with his guys and coaches, with the Coaches he feels comfortable with and that he trusts and Castillo is that kind of coach and has that kind of realationship with Andy.. I do not think that AR has the time of the paitience in what could be his final season in 2012 to bring in a new guy and go thru all the schematic,formation, terminalolgy changes again.. He’s not going to do that… Now if Spags wanted to rejoin, than that’s a remote possibility, but I don’t see Spags wanting to come to Philly and work with DL Coach Washburn for Spags is not going to want to change his style of Coaching for the Wide 9 that Washburn will only employ with his DL..

paulman
paulman
January 3, 2012 11:58 pm

To Drummer and about the Didinger article..
I am not so sure I but the article comparing to when Kotite finished at 8-8 with 4 striaght wins and what the Eagles did this year.. Lurie was a virgin Owner at that time and new to entire Football Ownership, new to Philly SPorts fanatacism at the point and probably make the right call with Kotite given the cirmcumstance.. The Franchse now is in a much more elevated state with great facilities, high epxpectation and believe it or not, the envy of many other franchsies around the NFL who wisehed they have the Stability on and off the field as the Eagles have enjoyed over the last 10 year or so..
I do believ that if the Eagles end of the season came off the tracks with players missing meetings, coaches fighting on the sidelines and let’s say rally packed it in and lost games very lopsided where it was evident that Coach AR lost he Team, then it’s a different storty, but Coach AR and his Staff to their credit,did keep the team together and rallied them to at lest play better ball and with passing and purpose that was missing the first 10 weeks of the Season.. Now the Stage is set for 2012 which I have stated before is the Season where the rubber is going to meet the road and either Coach AR and the Team perform at a very high level and compete for a Super Bowl run and if not, then Lurie and Banner will clean house.. What will be real interesting after the 2012 Season is what Role is GM Roseman going to have if Coach AR and his Staff are let go, for I will be honest here, No succesful Coach worth his weight, is going to want to come to Philadelphia to Coach and want to have Roseman as their GM.. Now maybe an unknown younger up and coming Coach who is happy for the opportunity, but most Proven HC’s are used to having some space, leeway and imput to when it comes to Player Personnel/Drafting and to the overall Roster Management of the team that he will b ecoaching and to be honest, I don’t believe many proven HC’s have the confidence that GM Roseman can provide that on a consistent basis..
Keep an eye and ears on Romseman this Off-Season and see how active he is in these areas for it will probably be a precursor to how the Eagles will proceed in their search for the next HC of the Team for 2013 …

Stevo
Stevo
January 3, 2012 11:58 pm

No drummer. Stop it. You are not smart enough for this. Navy has a masters danggit. He will not condone this crap. They were 8th in the league. 8th. Do you hear me? 8th!! They won 4 in a row. All 4 games had full meaning. They are pros.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
January 4, 2012 12:54 am

Drummer is the absolute toughest coolest guy I know – cause he doesn’t drink Kool-aid – cant make him –

yes Steve – they were 8th – we are all aware of that – I realize in your world where everything is perfect and only being #1 is acceptable – finishing 8 of 32 is difficult – but try breathing exercises or yoga – you will survive –

be kool like drummer and don;t drink the kool aid – cause guess what bitch – Ried’s back for another season and probably so is castillo – so continue WHINING and BITCHING and complaining – you get to do it for another entire year – but how come the adage of insanity doens’t apply to that?

remember don’t let anyone make you drink kool aid – just hang out and complain…….

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
January 4, 2012 12:56 am

Pman – drummer hear’s a different – non kool aid flavored drummer in his head – remember evrything positive that has happened in Philly is in spite of reid – just remember that is the fantasy he operates under –

now quick – make up something like ‘ I guess all those super bowl trophies navy’ or some other stupid stepford comeback – oops – forgot not supposed to tangle with Dummer

Stevo
Stevo
January 4, 2012 2:20 am

What’s odd navy is that I wanted andy back- hmmm. Guess I don’t fit your “hater” mold. Better luck next time. As I’ve stated from day 1- this D is not good enough where it counts.

Stevo
Stevo
January 4, 2012 2:27 am

Btw- we ARE #1. In red zone TD’s (wrong end), drops, miss takles, and most importantly- turnovers (wrong end). Sorry, I know, I know, I’m “complaining” again.
Again- its ok that I want more from this team. I don’t expect a SB- I just expect to hire coaches that um… Coach that position. I expect them to NOT make backup qb’s look like a God. I expect them to win against the seahawks. I’m not complaining dude… I’m hoping they right this ship.

nev856
nev856
January 4, 2012 5:51 am

not a big stat guy just go by what i see, but the stat that does get me is reids record against winning teams , who is getting outcoached here ; reid himself or his co oordinators . ? wasnt a big fan of a time out 3rd play of game either , must have been MM’s fault!

bsmvideos
January 4, 2012 7:36 am

My name is nurse Rachet….I apoligize for writing this post for bsmvideos.

After hearing the Jeff Lurie news conference bsmvideos was put on suicide watch at Bomont hospital. Then for some unknown reason he slipped into a coma.

He did manage to scribble a few notes and hand it to me, before he slipped into that terrible coma….

1. The majority of Andy Reids 1st round picks have been busts…

2. The team has gone backwards with the Passing of Jimmy Johnson…

3. Andy has repeatedly said that he would take responsibility for the teams bad play. When McDermott, McNabb, Akers or Quintin Mikell were no longer performing up to Andy’s standard he relieved them of their jobs. Why not relieve yourself when you do the same???

4. This 4 game winning streak is against SCRUBS. And with no pressure. Andy can coach he butt off with a big lead and no pressure(sorry forgot about the 49ers game he really is getting worst). The Patriots picked this defense apart and kept them off balance for an entire game. Juan is a moron and a symbol of what is wrong with the fat man. Too slow to admit when he’s wrong.

No wide recievers…several years to correct

No kick off returner…never corrected

No linebackers…never corrected

No center..2 years to correct

No defensive coordinator…yet to correct

Won’t run the ball enough to make a opposing linebacker or defensive back actually bite on a “play-action fake”…never will correct.

Trading out of the 1st round, like we are some championship organization that is smarter than every body else in the NFL….

To the “Make a Wish” Foundation…Please…Fire Andy Reid….and I may yet live…

Sorry, the note ends there…Nurse Rachet.

greenfan
greenfan
January 4, 2012 8:47 am

speaking of Akers BSM…anyone notice the year that he has had in SF??

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2012 9:28 am

BSM, I flew right over the coo-coo nest with you.
Hey just think, the season wasn’t a complete waste. We finished strong with that monster winning streak, against stiffs & we get another chance with our brilliant Hall of fame coach.

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2012 9:29 am

BSM, I flew right over the coo-coo nest with you.
Hey just think, the season wasn’t a complete waste. We finished strong with that monster winning streak, against stiffs & we get another chance with our brilliant Hall of fame coach. 🙂

jakedog
jakedog
January 4, 2012 9:45 am

Bsm , Andy sends his regards, hopes you feel better, but says next time you gotta do a better job……

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
January 4, 2012 10:01 am

Stevo – don’t be sensitive – have fun – I don;t think there isn’t anyone that is not aware we had some defensive struggles this year – and yes, they should right the ship (thanks for that analogy by the way) but you have to use ALL those stats to figure out waht caused the problem with the ship in the first place – for example – if you get hit with an anti ship missle – do you deal with the fire or the flooding first? and you can not pick and chose which games ‘mean’ and which games ‘meaningless’ you look at the total body of work –

lets see if we can agree on something (you live in Minnesota – and we have had a week of 75 and sunny so I am trying to empathise) if the OC calls a screen pass – and the RB is wide open, with 3 OL in front of him and the ball is under or over thrown – then who is at fault – what if the ball is tipped – what if the RB drops it –

same thing with defense – if you have a bunch of missed tackles – then who is at fault – the DC – wait – his plan/scheme had someone in position to make the play – the player missed the play – and you can spin yourself around and round –

when I watched the eagles (and granted TV SUCKS to review a game – many times eagle players were in position to make plays and didn’t – sure, got the whole cliche of ‘it falls on the coach’ but loved it when the Raiders coach came out this week and basically said ;’ hey at some point players got to get it done’

but at this point – it looks like Castillo is going to be back – Reid is back – so why not get excited about next year – or wait – if you look forward to next season are you somehow not doing something right?

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
January 4, 2012 10:04 am

D – you missed the most telling part of Akers year – he attempted over 50 kicks – why did that happen – the 49ers rarely turned the ball over – they had like the #29 offense – but very few TOs and would take the three points and let the D hold it –

maybe if we cut down on the turnovers – our rook would have gotten a few more swings

DCar
DCar
January 4, 2012 10:24 am

Navy, can’t argue with you there. Also their DF was top notch & their rookie coach was surprisingly good. Two things we lacked. One can only hope that Rosebuds & Square peg in round hole Reid has an epiphany, & pushes all the correct buttons this off season.

greenfan
greenfan
January 4, 2012 10:26 am

Jeffrey Lurie stated:
“It’s not only unacceptable, it’s very, very disappointing and anyone who in my mind doesn’t feel both the disappointment and anger is just not getting what we’re all about.”
….to all who are obsessed with calling fans whiners when they express anger and disappointment, take a note from the owner. Try and be analyitical from the view on the West Coast, but there are fans who live with this team everyday and express there support emotionally. These are also the fans that pay for tickets…invade training camp…and made the owner a Billionaire.

The owner has made his case for his coach. He trusts this coach. Lurie pays the bills and will make a change when he sees fit. That phase is over, no use continuing to look for Reids departure, it ain’t happening this year. My support is with the team….hate to watch playoff games without them…but will look at moves we make see how we can get better. GO BIRDS.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 4, 2012 10:53 am

It is unacceptable…but we are going to try it all again without changing anything next season.

schiller
schiller
January 4, 2012 11:02 am

Bugsy, there’s nothing but reid? “Without changing anything”? You really think the team will be identical?

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
January 4, 2012 11:09 am

green – again – you miss the point (why am I not surprised) there is a huge , huge difference in the ‘feelings’ and how those ‘feelings’ are expressed – try a sports analogy – ever see a player look nervous before a big game or fight – bet you he is – he just doens’t show it – why – game face – get your game face on – sure – be angry – but to post the eagles are going to lose – get whipped – hope they lose for draft psotioning or to ensure coach gets fired – buying a ticket ONLY gives you the right to go to the game – you act like an asshole all on your own, don’t like the product, don’t buy the ticket – and anytime you want to come on out to the west coast – there are at least 3 places JAMMED with eagle fans that go through a hell of a lot more then ordering tix to get a chance to see the team, buy gear, and show support (but why does it not surprise me your head is buried in a hole?) – so what is the required amount of time you had to live and grow in Philly to maintian your ‘city’ card? Express there support emotionally – please – your killing me –
– its more like – if you are winning we will support you 100%, but if you lose and struggle we will turn on you and vent at you under the guise of ‘passion’ – but its only becuase we love you

kind of sounds like the sposue that sez do what I want and everything will be fine, screw up and I will have to slap you around – but don;t wrry, its just me expressing my frustration

greenfan
greenfan
January 4, 2012 11:20 am

as much as drummer can be a broken record, Navy has become the ANTI-FAN.

No one can know as much as him…no one can express their support for the team “correctly” but him….no one can make a point regarding the team without some stupid long winded comment from the master….God forbid an “emotion” get mentioned and you will get a sermon ….give me a break.

Can you get any more stuck on the sound of your own voice (or written word in this case?)…I’ll bet you have a ton on mirrors in your house. P-man can send out a load of sh*t much of the time, but at least he doesn’t take himself serious like you appear to love yourself. Get over yourself dude.

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
January 4, 2012 11:26 am

No D – Harbaugh is no surprise – great coach, great guy. HE did a hell of a job with the Div 1AA Universtiy of San Diego – players loved him, fans loved him – he was a winner. Then he did great at Stanford – a local kid that played RB for him at USD was one of his special teams coaches at Stanford and said the guy was just incredible – HE took a team and the talent that guys like Singletary couldn’t get to respond, and got them to respond – his ex-wifes family is from Levittown – he used to joke about getting confused with his brother in Philly – only place that ever happened –

there was no chance for the Eagles to get him – he wasn’t leaving CA until kids grown up (his son is a QB at one of the boys CAtholic Schools here in SD)

great move by Harbuagh to bring Fangio (the DC) over from Stanford – stole him from his brother in Baltimore! the turnover ratio is like 23-5 in INTs and 19-10 in fumbles – imagine how much better the birds might have looked with a 42-15 turnover ratio! Bowman had a solid year for them not bad for a 3rd rd LB!

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
January 4, 2012 11:41 am

green – oh – can’t tell if that’s hate, jealousy or envy… showing your ugly side…

but thanks – love definitions as much as stats – no green – I am the ANTI- NON-fan I am direclty opposed to those who under the guise of being ‘passionate’ actually act like non-fans – now – read the ACTUAL DEFINITIONS – I know its a GCOBB special to change the meanings of words… but here ya go –

oh sorry – this is probably WAAAAAAY to much logic for you :

Fan: an enthusiastic devotee (as of a sport or a performing art) usually as a spectator 2: an ardent admirer or enthusiast

synonyms:addict, aficionado (also afficionado), buff, devotee, enthusiast, fanatic, fancier, junkie (also junky), lover, maniac, maven
advocate, backer, champion, patron, promoter, proponent, supporter; partisan (also partizan), zealot; booster, rooter, well-wisher;

Near Antonyms nonadmirer; belittler, carper, critic, detractor

Antonyms nonfan

definition of a non-fan – lacking the usual especially positive characteristics of the thing specified (in this case fan)

so see – I am ANTI – NON-FAN – again probably way to tough a logic problem for you to discern!

sorry – truth hurts – its OK you will get over it –

greenfan
greenfan
January 4, 2012 11:46 am

why am I not suprised by the response….suprised you left out of your previous post how your wife and harbuaghs ex grew up together….always smarter navy….always looking for a way to make it about you….I played at Navy…I have a masters…I jerk off on the West Coast….who the fuck cares man

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 4, 2012 11:56 am

Schill- Nothing but Reid and Roseman who pick the players and run the team. What is going to be so different next year in your mind?

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
January 4, 2012 12:04 pm

green – apparently you seem to care very very much, I seem to have attracted you as an admirer (this is GCOBB – you are allowed to change the menaings of words to suit your needs right). Its OK – I will let you be my bitch – you act like one anyway – just keep following my posts – I love having groupies! I mean to jump into my a DCar conversation, you must be following close – sorry my life is so much more interesting then yours you feel slighted – probably why you have suck a difficult time when the eagles don;’t do as well as you demand!

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
January 4, 2012 12:06 pm

and – and my wife and his ex (she is hot by the way) didn’t become friends until HArbaugh was playing for the chargers –

dude – the jealousy you are showing…. turn it down big guy

greenfan
greenfan
January 4, 2012 12:12 pm

look in the mirror man (I know you have alot around)….YOU have sent pathetic ANTI-FAN comments for the past 2 weeks…your narcissism has no equal here

greenfan
greenfan
January 4, 2012 12:13 pm

I just knew you would take the bait!!!!!!

navyeaglefan
navyeaglefan
January 4, 2012 12:37 pm

ouch, I need a band aid! green hurt my feelings………. see you around the next time I am having a discussion with someone – yo useem to like to follow – I am going to be gone for about 10 minutes to handle some eh.. business – so you can relax big fella – its OK – not cheating on you on another site – nature calls.

JoeFriday
JoeFriday
January 4, 2012 2:19 pm

A wasted season, perhaps. It depends on what the Eagles do with what they have learned that will actually determine whether or not it was wasted. But if you look at the top flight teams, they all have something in common, qbs that are human targeting computers, like the way they lay and fire the main gun on an M-1 tank. Rogers, Brees, Brady, etc are 20+ qb rating points up on Vick. It is a qb driven league, the rules are set up to make the passing game easier. I am not saying Vick is unable to do what they do, but he hasn’t so far, and for the Eagles to make it to the top, he must. Perhaps with an off-season of film study and hard work he will return next year better than his INT rich season of 2011.He has improved significantly since he arrived here, and has to continue to do so. The best teams have the best qbs. Even the Steelers are throwing 40+ times per game. That is the modern NFL.

Erock
Erock
January 4, 2012 2:48 pm

Make it about football,you guys rant too much. Who cares who you are and where you come from,really,noone does?Does anyone really read someones entire comment when its 40 sentences long? Why? Diatribes about each others personallity.Its borderline female…..and immature. Noone talks about anything meaningful.Except Paul.lol.For real…do some self scouting and talk some pigskin.Not about some coach for another stinking team. Only you care….so post it on fb.

jakedog
jakedog
January 4, 2012 3:05 pm

nice job there erock, and all the other shit about scouting, firing juan, etc won’t mean jack unless the quarterback figures it out, and I doubt he will, so draft a real quarterback