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Many Texans not happy with Ryans trade

On the surface, it would seem that the Houston Texans motivation for moving two-time Pro Bowl LB DeMeco Ryans to the Philadelphia Eagles was based on business. They only got a fourth-round pick (plus the swap of the thirds), but cleared some $6 million in cap space off the books for this year. So while the Texans’ brass may feel like they loosened up their cap situation, many players, according to Jerome Solomon of the Houston Chronicle, don’t appreciate the move.

Here are some texts that he received from players regarding the Ryans trade:

“WTF!! You know what they are up to?”

“Damn, man, and they talk about loyalty.”

“Cold-blooded, man, cold-blooded. But Meco will be better off for it. He’s going to dominate in Philly.”

“They don’t what leadership means, do they? Bet they won’t finish No. 2 in defense next season.”

“It’s an ugly business. We’re not the same team without him. Gonna take a lot to replace Meco.”

And keep in mind these are players that just saw the Texans let Mario Williams walk out of town. They seem to be more upset about this than from losing one of the best pass rushers in the game. Oh, and losing Eric Winston wasn’t exactly a popular move either. But this? DeMeco Ryans? This one seems to have set them off.

Several Texans players took to Twitter as well to go on record with their thoughts:

Owen Daniels: “Seriously? Meco too?”

Brian Cushing: “I wouldn’t be half the player or person I am today without @DRyans59 this one hurts. Philly got a unbelievable player and leader today. #59″

Glover Quin: “Honored to have had the chance to play with and learn from @DRyans59.. True leader and great person… Preciate you bro.”

Eric Winston (to Owen Daniels): “Watch you(r) back kid. @owendaniels you’re the last ’06 guy left.”

So, even if you know nothing about DeMeco Ryans and have never seen him play, you can get a clear sense just from these quotes of what kind of player, person and leader the guy is. The Eagles got a steal, I think that much is clear.

Even if he gets hurt on day 1 and never plays a down for the Birds, this is a great move. Even if he’s a total turd that’s used improperly by Juan Castillo (certainly possible), this is a great move. The upside that comes with this fourth-round pick and swap of thirds is tremendous. What would they have done with that fourth-round pick anyway, take a 231-lb. defensive end from a college that no one has heard of and tell us he’s a fastball coming off the edge? Exactly.

According to Solomon, the Texans rarely release statements on players who are cut or shipped out of town. But, GM Rick Smith did just that, apparently with a team PR person who should be fired.

“DeMeco Ryans contributed significantly toward helping us build the foundation we hope will bring a world championship to the city of Houston,” Smith said in the statement. “His professionalism and leadership cannot be over-exaggerated. This move was mutually beneficial for the Texans immediate and long-term goals, DeMeco’s career, and the Philadelphia Eagles. We appreciate all the hard work and effort DeMeco invested in our organization and wish him only the best moving forward. He is a class act.”

SIDE NOTE: This is why the PR person should be fired (okay maybe that’s harsh). For those of you who aren’t in the public relations field or don’t know how this works, these words never left Smith’s lips. These PR people write up a quote and then run it by Smith to get him to approve it. Smith or his people didn’t catch this error either obviously, but it makes him look stupid. If the term “over-exaggerate” comes out of your mouth in conversation, it’s forgivable. When it’s in a prepared statement, it’s just dumb. You can’t over-exaggerate anything. Exaggerate by definition means you are stretching the truth and overdoing it. These kinds of things bug me. Carry on.

But I digress. If the upside on this deal for the Eagles isn’t obvious, just listen to the reactions of Ryans’ former teammates. They’d know better than anyone. This one goes in the win column for Howie and the rest of the Eagles organization who made it happen.

Micah Warren

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gmcliff
gmcliff
March 21, 2012 11:33 am

Good article Micah

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
March 21, 2012 11:48 am

Houston is having a fire sale is Ed Wade in the Texans front office also ——–

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2012 12:11 pm

GM Roseman should call Texans GM back and see if he will take both 2nd Round Picks for WR Andre Johnson..

nsidious
nsidious
March 21, 2012 12:11 pm

Micah:

Dude, Word.

nsidious
nsidious
March 21, 2012 12:16 pm

Micah:

Great to see that the Texans “D” is unhappy. I really like the Texans. But it bodes well for the Birds that we got a player whose absence his own teammates are lamenting so publicly and deeply. I’ll welcome this guy with open throat roar at the first Eagles home game next year.

larrwd
larrwd
March 21, 2012 12:20 pm

If hes healthy which it seems he is.. what a mistake they made.. MLBs can last forever ..they can dominate till theyre like 35

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2012 12:29 pm

For whatever it’s worth and being the Conspiracy junkie that I am ..
Check out what’s happened to some the NFL Players Reps that participated in the last years Lockout/new CBA deal

#1) LB DeMArco Ryans was the Player Rep for Texans and Traded
#2) OT Winston Justice was the Player Rep for the Eagles and Traded
#3) LB London Fletcher was the Player Rep for the Redskins and not resigned
#4) OL Jake Scott was the Player Rep for Titans and not resigned
#5) C Jeff Saturday was Player Rep for COlts and not resigned
#6) WR Hines Wards Player Rep for Steelers and released

These are ones I came up with off the top of my head and will have to research the other 26 Teams/Players to see what happened to their Reps..

btc24
btc24
March 21, 2012 12:38 pm

Paulman, it’s Demeco, not Demarco. The list above are all veteran players too so they likely are not going to get big contracts by their current team. It’s a coincidence.

lionsden
lionsden
March 21, 2012 12:49 pm

I mean in two weeks the Texans might have propelled themselves back into obscurity with these two moves. It amazes me how much owners and GM’s undervalue team chemistry. It’s not going to be pretty next year for the Texans.

Oh well…

On the other hand the Eagles seem to have gotten the point. We’ve got a very talented defense with talented coaches and now we just acquired one of the best MLBs and apparently one of the best leaders in the league. This is two years in a row the Eagles have made the most out of FA and trades in the off season. I don’t know that I’ve ever been more excited about the draft than I am right now. I really hope they consider Mychael Kendricks in the 2nd if he’s available. He may not be right for OLB in the NFL but he’s got the speed, athleticism, and attitude to be a good SS. Not to mention he’s a solid tackler.

But back to the Texans for a sec…. what the hell are they smokin’ down there?????!!!!!!

nsidious
nsidious
March 21, 2012 1:06 pm

lionsden:

They’re smoking Word, dude. And it’s effects are overexaggerated.

schiller
schiller
March 21, 2012 1:07 pm

lionsden – I don’t think they undervalued chemestry. I think they undervalued CAP MANAGMENT. They didn’t WANT to do this – they HAD to.

btc24
btc24
March 21, 2012 1:07 pm

Tebow to the Jets for a 4th rounder.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
March 21, 2012 1:12 pm

Sanchez is gonna be under a lot of pressure now. When he inevitably tosses up a stinker of a game or 2, people are gonna be calling for Tebow. Strange move for the Jets and their locker room.

larrwd
larrwd
March 21, 2012 1:17 pm

thats awsome dont the jets play the broncos.. peyton manning will be done in 8 months broncos messed up on this one

Deasr
Deasr
March 21, 2012 1:23 pm

Anyone think there is a chance we sign a OLB? Would love to add some veteran play there. And has Lofton signed? Fletcher?

lionsden
lionsden
March 21, 2012 1:42 pm

Schiller – Your point is valid but I’m not questioning the financial move I’m questioning the decision of who was and wasn’t expendable. You can’t circumvent the cap so you can either restructure or cut or trade players, having said that why is there no report that the Texans tried to restructure Ryans and/or Mario Williams contracts. They essentially let two of their best defensive players and their two defensive leaders just walk… THAT’S INSANE. Have you seen the reactions from the remaining players? They are pissed! Last year we got Cullin Jenkins from GB because they made the same calculations as the Texans and GB’s defense suffered greatly without him. Ray Lewis is past his prime but Baltimore would never let him go because of his presence in the locker room and while Ryans is not Ray Lewis, his team mates look at him the same way the Ravens’ defensive players looks at Lewis. Two of Ryans’ former team mates were on the NFL network last night and explicitly stated that Ryans was the guy you looked to on defense when everything broke down.

Somebody on the Texans made the determination that Ryans was expendible and I think they will regret it fairly early next year.

schiller
schiller
March 21, 2012 1:52 pm

lions, I hear you, but just because there aren’t reports, doesn’t mean the Texans didn’t ask those players to restructure. Williams and Ryans would have been right to crack up if asked, and if so, the team wouldn’t want it to get out. I think it just IS possible that they’re that bad with cap managment compared to the Eagles. Heck, the skins and boys are in trouble now, and they’re been around WAY before the Texans franchise…. ish happens. But yeah, they’re mess right now. That said, healthy Shaub, Andrew Johnson and that running game…. they still could be dangerous. Not to mention their division SUCKS.

lionsden
lionsden
March 21, 2012 2:17 pm

Schiller… point taken, they may have asked them to restructure and we just don’t know about it, but from a PR stand point I want Fans and Players alike to know that I tried to keep my defensive stalwarts and they CHOSE to leave as opposed to it appearing that I let them walk thus undervaluing them and to a certain extent seeming unappreciative of what they have done for the organization. I agree, the division sucks but I wonder how motivated the Texans will be next season after loosing these key players. If they fall apart next year… I am guessing these off season moves will be revisited.

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2012 2:46 pm

Texans probably threw away a great oppotunity to take a complete stranglehold of that AFC South Division as the Colts/Jags continue to rebuild, Texans could still dominant the next few Seasons but sure don’t seem to be making it easy for themselves..

How about the shit hitting the fan in New Orleans with Peyton suspensed for the Season, GM Loomis supended the first 8 Weeks of the Season and forfeithing 2nd Round PIcks in 2012 adn 2013..

Eagle Eyes
Eagle Eyes
March 21, 2012 3:39 pm

Sucks for the Saints. Already didn’t have a 1st rounder this year and now no 2nd rounder the next two years. I bet this goes on in more places than just New Orleans.

Also, the Tebow deal is being held up do to contract langauge. He might not be heading to New York…

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2012 4:10 pm

I bet Spags is pissed if he finds out there was an impending investigation going on and the Saints didn’t tell him about it while he was interviewing for the DC Position back in January..

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2012 4:12 pm

Mayor Bloomberg already has a Crew at Lady LIberty in Staten Island working on re-molding “Statue of Liberty” to the “Tebow Kneel” … The hits never stop coming….

schiller
schiller
March 21, 2012 4:22 pm

Paul, but now there’s a riot going on in NY – the residents of NY are mad that he wasted taxpayer dollars only for the trade to hit a snag. Meanwhile, in St. Louis, they’re remodeling the arch to the shape of a cross with a football at the intersection of the two lines.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/21/jets-trade-for-tebow-hits-a-snag-could-be-voided-rams-may-get-him/

CT
CT
March 21, 2012 4:30 pm

Once again this FO proves to be one of the best and most intelligent ones the league
philly is all in…its only a,matter of time before we get a ring..health is the only key

pheags88
pheags88
March 21, 2012 4:58 pm

CT calm down there bro…The FO IMO has basically thrown seasons away before they even started. See last year…instead of spending money for top LB available in Tulloch they decided to use a 4th round LB in the starting role in a shortened offseason with a new DC that never coached D. Again, That decision killed us before the season even started. I wouldn’t call that the best and most intelligent FO.
Same thing going into seasons without quality WRs…safeties…even a proper return man.
Just saying, I do like what they have done so far and think they are improving tho by finally realizing how much some of these players suck and need to be upgraded. MAybe they actually do listen to the fans when they plead for the obvious improvements needed on the team

lionsden
lionsden
March 21, 2012 5:23 pm

This Tebow thing is getting funnier by the minute… the Jets thought they were getting a steal and instead they got robbed. There’s no way on earth they thought he was worth $5million but they might be on the hook for it in the future. I smell arbitration from the league office because the trade was made on TWITTER of all places and I don’t know if there is any precedence for how binding “twitter agreements” are. I am so glad this circus didn’t land in Philly.

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2012 5:28 pm

Rumor Mill on the Staten island Ferry has the jets Trading QB Tebow and
Safety LeRon Landry and LB Bart Scott to the Eagles for QB M Vick…
Tebow is starting QB for Eagles with trent Edwards ready to step in….
Mayor Nutter is having the “Tebow Kneel” Statue moved from Liberty Island down to the William Penn Building at the Philly Residents Expense.. Yikes..

nsidious
nsidious
March 21, 2012 5:36 pm

Paulman:

Wrong again Paulman. The “Tebow Kneel” statue will be positioned at the feet of William Penn.

nsidious
nsidious
March 21, 2012 5:36 pm

Paulman:

nsidious
nsidious
March 21, 2012 5:37 pm

Paulman:

The wind will take care of the rest….

nsidious
nsidious
March 21, 2012 5:39 pm

Paulman:

Alternating from West to East the wind will reveal the true nature of things….

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 21, 2012 5:57 pm

Hell lets throw them a 2nd round pick for Andre Johnson. LOL

pdiddy
pdiddy
March 21, 2012 5:58 pm

OH my bad Pman I see you already put that joke out there.

eagleman215
eagleman215
March 21, 2012 8:25 pm

What other moves do you guys think we can make to upgrade this team and hopefully challenge for a championship this year or next? If we can pick up a free agent or two and some solid draft choices in these positions in no certain order: s,dt,olb,te,fb,cb and some oline depth and we should be good to go. Let’s Go Eagles

DCar
DCar
March 21, 2012 8:59 pm

Sign SS Yerimiah Bell & LB Erin Henderson. Draft Poe or Brokers with #15, Vin Curry & Lavonte David with or 2nd’s. Get’er done!

Deasr
Deasr
March 21, 2012 9:12 pm

Dcar, i like that thinking. Add Plax in there too. I still hope they get Cox or Still, but I like Bell and Henderson. I doubt we get E.H. though. Andy’s mustache is covered in McDonald’s special sauce from the Ryans trade.

DCar
DCar
March 21, 2012 9:33 pm

Deasr, LMFBO! God only knows, what’s in that mustache! Cox is good, but I got a feeling he might go higher than the others, due to his versatility to play both DT/DE in a 4-3. He might be the best option for here, out of the top DT’s, due to our wide 69 scheme. BWAHAHAHA!!! PUT 69 for a reason. @$$ backwards DF. LOL!!!!

paulman
paulman
March 21, 2012 10:49 pm

Saints Sign DT Broderick Bunkley (former 1st Rd Pick of the Eagles) to a
5 Year $28 Millionr Deal with $9 Million in Guaranteed $$$ over his 1st 2 Years… Is it me or are Teams overapying for medicore Talent..

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
March 21, 2012 11:27 pm

*Eagle News*

-DeMeco Ryans is signed sealed and delivered.
– Howie Roseman said expect another move during owners meeting week. Which is next week.

My Thoughts- Proud to have Ryans here in philly. Today at the press conference he looked ready to play now. Keep in mind that yes hes a MLB but he can play all 3 LB positions. In college he was a OLB, so if needed, we have options there.. As for Roseman flat out saying expect another move to come, can we remember the birds ever being this forthcoming? I know i dont. And who can we expect to be moved, if anyone? The eagles have no cap issues any longer, theyve freed up plenty of money so if they wanted to pay asante the 9ms they can afford it and keep him, but maybe asante is on his way out the door.. Idk. But expect another move before owners meetings per Howie Roseman..

Deasr
Deasr
March 21, 2012 11:33 pm

Dcar, you’re a nut. JH, your back. I was worried you were hiding. Where’s the signings? DR doesn’t count, because it was a trade.

Deasr
Deasr
March 21, 2012 11:45 pm

And by other move, probably announcing the new contracts for Shady and Maclin.

larrwd
larrwd
March 21, 2012 11:47 pm

@paulman theyre throwing 20 million dollar contracts around like nothing

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
March 21, 2012 11:56 pm

Deasr- Incorrect. If you read what i wrote i said the word “moves”. I said not necessarily thru FA signing i said it could be a trade. And not tulluch lofton or hawthorne… i even gave the day, i said tuesday,wednesday,thursday.. cmon man what do i need to hide for? Ive been calling these moves left and right, where have you been? Haha..

Deasr
Deasr
March 22, 2012 12:13 am

Actually you wrote the signings would be coming fast. You said not to be upset because they didn’t make any “moves”. C’mon on guy. lol

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
March 22, 2012 12:19 am

Your taking part of what i say and twisting it to make a falsified point. If your gonna quote me do it correctly. I said things are happening fast as in around the league. I said they could make 1-4 moves. And yes i said not to be upset about no moves as of yet. I know you read everything i say so quote me right buddy, thats all i ask..

DCar
DCar
March 22, 2012 1:40 am

Deasr, thanks for the compliment. LOL!!!

Deasr
Deasr
March 22, 2012 7:54 am

Your welcome Dcar. JH, I’m just teasing you some. I have noticed you are usually on the ball. I was just poking some fun. You da man.

DCar
DCar
March 22, 2012 8:50 am

No he’s not. Stop lying to him. He’s a confused blowhard. LOL!!!

Deasr
Deasr
March 22, 2012 8:56 am

Blowhard, hahhahahaha. People still use that word?.. It actually sounds very sexy dirty. Matter of fact, I think I met a few of them at parties. Very late at night. LOL

scramz25
scramz25
March 22, 2012 12:57 pm

if you thought that signing Ryan was a good deal and move wait till you see Albert Haynesworth in a Eagles uni this year. Yeah Schill i know you got something crazy to say to me lol but its cool. But if it was up to me i would have to give it a shot. That man thrived in this system and he isnt done. ok he was a pain in the ass on some teams but understand this some people need to have a strong personality to coach another ALPH MALE. He already got paid from washington right? so now he is playing for pride. He is the woman who’s man broke up with her and told the world she was horrible, and to make up for that the next man that she gets is going to get the best out of her. At some point he has to prove to the leauge he can play. give him a contract based on his play as protection. you still have enough talent at tackle to replace him if it doesnt work, BUT IF AND WHEN IT DOES you will hae thosesame LBS all over the back field of teams. you can just see it now… Give me HAynesworth in the middle, and Plax in the redzone then they go and draft BURFLIC in becasue now you have Haynesworth a ALPHA male and RYAN another ALPHA male to learn how gel with team mates. He was the ALPHA in his school and people were afraid of him thats why he did what he did. you cant take away his talent and being here with what can be will set him str8.. if the do it then its ball game.

i cant front i am excited about this move wth ryan i just dont feel they are done. they need more and venting on here and getting responses from Katz like schill made me think. good looking Schill….
i love my team and and im going to cheer and go crazy anyway… oh yeah im not some pansy either who is scared of schill if you think that. Im 6’2′ 290 and not fat either……

EAGLES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!eagles……………