Many times you can tell what a team is thinking by what players they fly in to take a close look at. That’s why it’s worth making note of the report that the Birds will be hosting LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers.
Brockers had a mediocre Combine but he was impressive while playing for the Tigers. He’s big, powerful and quick.
It’s not news to anyone that the Birds are interested in defensive tackles.
But the report by Wilson that the Eagles will be hosting cornerback Trumaine Johnson of Montana is definitely news. This makes the reports about Asante Samuel being on the trading block even more believable.
Not only do the Eagles have Samuel, Nmandi Asomugha and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, they have last year’s third round draft pick Curtis Marsh and free agent acquisition Brandon Hughes.
Word has it that they like both Marsh and Hughes.
Brockers would be a good choice —
I like the Eagles off season so far and think the Front Office is really doing a good job so far —– retaining Juan Castillo is the only move I wish they did not make
cant start all over with a new defensive coordinator .. wed be back at square one
Montana? stick to high school blue chippers who are now projected to be high NFL draft picks — not firemen from Canada or Montana
the montana kid is the biggest corner in the draft 6’2 201 i think thats why theyre looking at him .. the other corner is also over 200 pounds mayhbe the eagles finally realized they have to many midgets
larrwd — maybe your right I don’t know anything about cornerback Trumaine Johnson of Montana — I shouldn’t slam someone I know nothing about
First off thank you G for getting the draft juices really flowing today. Two great post, um I personally don’t like Brockers potential first round bust all over him.
Bringing in Brockers could be smoke and mirrors… They year the Eagles moved up in the draft and took Brandon Graham they brought in some DE’s but Graham was not one of them.
the could be bringing in bcockers to draft poe or even keuchly i agree with sully….
@eagles0 i always liked big corner backs i remember bobby taylor was so good.
Brandon Graham is that dud cannonball firework you wasted your money on during the 4th of July, his fuse won’t even light up. What a waste by the FO.
We got”Kolbed” again by the FO and their “high-motor” talk with that one.
Hey you guys want a run stopper you can have alameda Ta’amu in the third rd. He will probably be better than Poe.
Wow. Okay. I just watched a number of game films on Cox and Brockers to form a more solid opinion on the two. Cox is definitely stronger but Brockers looks like a much more instinctive football player. He sheds blocks better and takes much better angles of pursuit to the ball carrier. He has a definite nose for the ball. “JPDraftJedi” has some great film on the two on YouTube. Watch for yourself and come up with your own opinion if you have the time. I want Brockers.
Boyer now check out Still’s and give your honest opinion.
ok diddy, I watched some tape. I would take still over Cox too. He’s definitely instinctive too, nose for the ball type of guy. He looks like more of a lane clogger. Cox would go up field on every single play and take himself out of the game. Still looks like he likes to sit in the lane (maybe just systems the teams play).
As far as Brockers, it’s hard to say one is better than the other. Brockers plays way better competition. That PSU/Alabama tape was the best test. Still looked dominant against a great line for the 1st half. It was impressive. Had he kept that up the whole game I’d say Still over Brockers. But he was really tired in the 2nd half and did nothing. There are two X-factors for Brockers- the SEC, and the fact he was only a Sophomore this season. He still has room to grow. I’d really be happy with either one and they both looked more impressive than Cox. Thanks for pointing him out. I automatically discounted him because he played for PSU.
Remember that Teams who may like a Brockers or a POe may want to trade up with the Eagles at #15 To get them, which is why you do your due diligence nad work the potential players not only you are interested in but others that will most likely be in that range of players that other teams may want to trade up to obtain..
RE: CB Trumaine Johnson from Montana who is 6-2 205lbs and a hitter who many Scouts/bservors really like.. also many of them (myself included) beleive he as the talent,the skills,size,speed & toughness to play Safety at the NFL Level.. Do not be surprised the Eagles grab Johnson in the 3rd Round in the with the intention of moving him to Safety once Ota’s/Camps begin.. Johnson does come with some off-the field baggage that they probably want get to know him a little better…
Boyer, thanks for taking the time out to look. Man look your points on Brockers are legit, he did go against the best of the best, and put up numbers. So i can’t take that from him, as long as they star away from Poe and get one of the other three I am cool wit it.
Agreed. I don’t want someone who couldn’t put up numbers against poor competition.
CB Omar Bolden missed most all of his Senior Season with a torn ACL during spring practice last year whikle at Arizona State He’s 5-10 202lbs and again,many Scouts believe he could adjust rather easily to a Safety position in the NFL.. He’s currently rated as teh Drafts 14 Rated CB Prospect and if it wasn’t for his lost Senior Season to a torn ACL, he would have been in the Top 6 or so.. He ran a 4.45 40 Speed but was a bit slower in the agility/Cone drills which wasa expected coming off Knee injury..
He also was Returnman during his College days and actually earned 2nd Team All Pac during his Junior Season with a 30 yard kick-off return average on 11 Returns..
Looking at some video on this kid, trumaine has great ball skills… He is a real hawk. Im not familiar with him but Im impressed with what I just saw…
Bolden dude intrigues me with some corner /safety skills. Good call on the return game too Paulie. We havent had a returner since…………
Brockers and Still are legit. Still is a somewhat local product and is a go hard every damn down guy. You know what you get with him and the LSU guy…forget a guy who like someone on here stated..didnt dominate at a mid-level conf..
They take David Beckham…Andy thinks tHey havent come close to replacing Akers and wants to go a completly different direction.Hey look guys thats how this thing works…you make a decision and you run with it.
Trumaine Johnson kind of reminds me a young Charles Woodson, kind of long,lanky but not afraid of contact and has excellent timing on making plays on the ball.. I like this kid alot and saw a few games with Montana in the FBS Division Playoffs over the last 2 years and he always stood out in the few games I saw them play… MOntana is a great program year in and year out and they actually have a LT named Tom Compton who has NFL Ability and could be a 5th Round pick for someone and probably more suited as a RT in the Pro’s.. He’s 6’5 about 305 lbs and tough-nosed players…
Eagles Colt Anderson played at Montana I believe as well..
Brockers in the next john harris .. i hope this is just a smoke screen .. still cox and poe are all better in my book.. he projected by many as a DE in a 3-4 in the pros..
Paul – You know I’ve been talking up Trumaine Johnson all off-season. I honestly believe that if the Eagles are bringing him in, they want him as a Safety, also knowing he’s versatile enough to play Cornerback. He is a threat to take Nate Allen’s spot at FS. I wouldn’t mind them drafting Brockers, he would be a high first rounder in next years draft, which is why it shouldn’t be a problem for them to offer their #1 next year, packaged with Asante Samuels, for another #1 pick this year which should be Whitney Mercilus. But they are going to have to decide between Brockers, and Cox, with their first pick.
Just looked up trumaine johnson hes nasty.. i hate brockers he get bullied by only one blocker.. i think trumaine johnson can play corner.. can start at nickel is rookie year and blitz and cover TEs..
Boyer, pdiddy, if we wind up with any of the 3, it will be an upgrade over Patterson. He is OK, but is not a play maker, & does nothing special. He is a mediocre DT & is also coming off of brain surgery. Not to mention Dixon’s injury & Jenkins age. Upgrades are needed at DT, along with SS & OLB. So I’d be happy with any of Brockers, Poe, Still, Cox, or even Brandon Thompson. He’s not getting as much love, but is pretty good also.
Yes you have GMCliff.. Great Scouting on Trumain Johnson and I have been checking him out since you first brought his name up back in January..
I think he’s a Safety Candidate myself but may look so good at CB that he stays there also.. Either way, he’s a player that I want him on my Team… He’ll probably be selected by the 3rd Round somewhere
FYI – today Jeff McLane laid out the case I have been espousing for drafting a QB. Critical for our future – and If they like Tannenhill, he could be had at 7 with a trade with JAX. If not Tannenhill, then who?
I like QB Cousins, but to be honest, I don’t believe any QB’s after Luck & RGIII are worth trading up for including even for Tannehill, who I dont’ see anymore than a Back-up.. I think the Eagles will concentrate with the 3 QB on their Roster in Vick,Edwards and Kafka who all need as many reps as possible this Off-Season.. I don’t see the sense of grabbing a 2nd Tier QB who is a 2-3 Years project at best taking away valuable time and reps fomr the 3 already on the Eagles Roster.. If Vick bounces back with a good Season in 2012 as we all hope, a 2nd Tier Rookie isn’t going to see the field for a few years anyways… IF Vick and the team bomb it in 2012, then most likely a whole new Staff comes in and can change course at the QB position.. Go with who you have, and Coach these 3 up is my motto…
Outside of RG3 and Luck, I dont think there are any more starting QBs, alot of 2nd string QBs.. I wouldnt waste a pick on any of these guys, id wait til next year if i were them, Im not overly impressed by any of these guys outside of RG3 or Luck..
Dixie Fan, JH, AND Paul – I still say my plan would be to make a trade with New England to pry Ryan Mallett from them to be our QB of the future. Paul, I know the Pariots like him but he is still 3rd on their depth chart. I think he could be had. There is no obvious solution to this in the next 2 drafts, and don’t give me Matt Barkley. I would try to draft Jordan Jefferson from LSU, to groom in the 6-7th rounds……
How bout we store up enough picks for next year so we can move up to draft a real franchise QB in Matt Barkley out of USC, A QB that has it all, may very well go 1st ovr next year, definitely in the top 5.. Would have been the 3rd QB off the board this year..
Gmcliff…
What’s your thoughts on OLB Shea McClellin from Boise State
He’s 6-3 260lbs and could be an excellent SAM LB at the NFL in my opinion.
I’ve been talking him up for a while now, but have not heard too much from anyone else talk about him.. Check him out ..
gmcliff– I like your thinking. Ive been a fan of Malletts for some time now, he could be the pats 2nd QB but i think politics are involved. Id trade a 5th and a 6th for Mallett.. Pats dont seem very high on him right now but they could be just burying him on the depth chart which makes sense bc they may be trying to keep him on the roster until Brady retires, but the kid could be waiting awhile for Brady isnt retiring anytime soon…
The problem with the “wait till next year” idea is that we’ll be in the same boat again. This team is not going to fall flat on its face or “bomb” and win 3 games (ensuring a top tier QB), but with you know who at the helm, we’re not winning the SB either.
Eagles’ go anywhere from 8-8 to 10-6 this year and then what? Heading into next offseason with a now 33 yr old injury prone QB who missed another 3 games (min)…..and is still an “unknown quantity” (to some anyway)
Don’t talk to me about Trent Edwards. That’s just a flyer on a guy. To see what he has. I’m betting on “not much” – if he turns out, I’d be suprised.
As for Kafka…well who knows there, but it was pretty telling that (in the worst coaching decision of the year – worse than Matthews at LB) they kept rolling out the absolute piece of crap Vince Young over the idea of giving Kafka reps and seeing what they have in him (at least against Seattle). Sohe’s unknown, but I don’t hold out a lot of hope at this point.
We all know I have absolutely no faith in the starting QB bringing home any hardware, but….
Honestly, does anyone here have confidencwe in Trent friggin’ Edwards or Mike Kafka coming in and winning 3 or 4 games this year? Because that’s going to happen. They will be playing this year…..
I think they’ve got to take a QB this or they enter 2013 with the exact same questions at the most important position.
I have no problem with Shea McClellin as a player . I like him. I just like Zach Brown, Nigel Bradham, and Bobby Wagner better. McClellin reminds me of a slower Ben Leber, or a faster Stewart Bradley; decent players, not really difference makers that impact the game.
Could this deal be discussed?
Trade Asante Samuel and a mid round pick for Terrell Suggs and a late round pick.. This is possible, There around the same age, the ravens could use CB and we could use a OLB.. Not sure about Suggs current deal but i know he would be a monster in the 4-3 defense, the guy could play end and obviously can play LB… Id do this deal in a heartbeat if i could get Suggs out of the deal…
gmcliff, you are OUT OF YOUR MIND. Jordan Jefferson might be one of the worst QBs I have ever seen. Give me Russel Wilson over Jordan Jefferson any day of the week.
Paul – What are your thoughts on Vinny Curry, and Sean Spence? I think Spence could be converted into a Strong Safety. He reminds me of a faster Brian Dawkins. I think Curry, is a nice back up plan to an aging Trent Cole, and Mercilus, ( who I would draft with a second #1) a solution to the overrated Jason Babin. Gotta make that trade with the Bengals, for their 1st pick, before the Bears draft him.
Btc24 – Jordan Jeffersons skill set is much higher than Russell Wilson. During the entire combine Mike Mayock pointed out that Jefferson had the strongest arm at the combine, one of the fastest QB’ s in the entire draft, and was more accurate than Russell Wilson. I don’t know why some are so high on him he’s Seneca Wallace take 2; Nothing special. I’m not saying Jefferson is the next Doug Williams either, but I do believe he is better equipped for the pro game than Russel Wilson. I really don’t think he’s (Wilson) an NFL Quarterback.
Wilson really stunk it up at the combine, as well as the Senior Bowl. I think it’s just time to let that go.
Fair points GM but I feel like the biggest knock on Wilson is his height. I watched Wisconsin play several times this year and I was very impressed with him. I’ll also be the first to admit that I’m no scout but he looked very good to me.
Larrwd knows…. That corner Trumaine Johnson is a playmaker
I like Fletcher cox.. he gets consistent push in the middle… but I didnt really see any explosion out of him…
Btc, I too watched some impressive games he played in but, he played in a system behind 5 first round potential picks. So his skill set was never exposed until the spotlight was on him specifically. As a pro, he would have to play a different role…..Cordel Stewart, Seneca Wallace, Randle- El, Brad Smith, etc….
Am I really reading posts espousing the merits of Jordan Jefferson – from LSU as a quarterback option?
I am not very high on LB Sean Spence at all to be honest with you gmcliff
He’s 5-11 231lbs and ran a 4.71 in the 40 which is too slow for a Safety..
He only lifted 225 lbs 12 times (least of all LB’s at the Indy COmbine)
He’s a good player who reminds me a little like Eagles Brian Rolle, but just does not have th measureables/athleticism & Strength to overcome his short size and would be engulfed by Offensive Lineman at the point of attack..
I think he’s strictly back-up LB material and a Special Teams player and is simply to slow to play the Safety position.
I’ve mentioned since last off-season that I would like to see the Eagles have LB Keenan Clayton take reps at Strong Safety to see what he can do.. Clayton is a natural ball hawk, and his normal playing weight was about 220-222lbs and at 6’1″ and with his natural speed, I think he can play Safety at the NFL Level. Clayton was an all-State Safety player in high-school which is what he was recruited for by Oklahoma who then converted him to OLB due to his size..
DE Vince Curry (from Neptune,NJ) would be a great pick in the 2nd Round (if he last that long) and reminds many Scouts of a Trent Cole type, that energizer who keeps coming on every snap and to many, is much more polished than T Cole was coming out of College..
At 6-3 263lbs, a great explosion off the ball from the Edges, he will get better at the NFL level once he perfects a few more moves, works his hands better and has the body type to put on 10lbs-12lbs on easily and not lose his explosion.
He has a nice Senior Bowl week but did not have a great Combine in Indy where he was fighting a wrist injury but had a fantastic Pro-Work Day at Marshall
He ran 4.64 40 time, a Verticle Jump of 35″ and lifted 225lbs 28 times
Curry had a great Senior Season with 22 Tackles for loss of yards and 11 Sacks following a strong Junior Season where he has 12 Sacks and 18 Tackled behind teh line of scrimmage so when your looking at an up the field pass-rusher with explosion and the ability to complete the play, Curry would be a natural fit for DL Washburn and the Wide 9 Scheme and I believe could be very productive as a NFL Pass-Rusher, He does need to work on his Rush Defense as all Pass-rushers seem to do.. He could play 20-25 Snaps as a 1st-2nd year player in Rushing situations and get you 8-10 Sacks a Season, Lots of Upside
There is talk that the Patriots are very high on him may even grab him with their #27th or #31 Selections at the end of the 1st Round as well as the Colts,Viknigs & Browns who may use an early 2nd Rounder to grab him…
Very doubtful that he falls to the mid-2nd Round in many observors opinions
When will the Eagles admit Nate Allen is garbage and get a real starting safety? Coleman was our best Safety last season and he’s less than average at best.
No more excuses!!!!!! I don’t care where he was drafted …. we need better production and toughness at his position. Allen was getting toasted and ran over before his injury.
Let’s not waste another season hoping.
Nate Allen is what he is and that’s not good enough.
I’ve heard that Vinny Curry is moving up the charts as well. Who would you rather have with a second 1 st rounder, Curry, or Mercilus? I would have to take Curry, just more consistent over the years, although I like Mercilus’s potential. I really want Curry on the Eagles.
Songs, you dont think Nate Allen coming back from a major injury had anything to do with his lack of production? I do. In fact, if you recall towards the end of the year he began to play the way he was before his injury, i dont see them going away from Allen at all, in fact I think there trying to find a SS to side up with him in the starting lineup.. I dont see it being Coleman of Jarrett…It would make sense for them to bring in a veteran there at S, possibly a Yeremiah Bell but with the whole Dawkins talk withe them letting him walk when he was 34 idk if they will bring Bell in.. But we will see..
Vinny, he would be an option as a project, that’s all……not an option as a solution to our future QB issues. Relax brother. I dont think any of these QB’s outside Luck or RG3, are anything special and not worth a high draft pick, especially in the second round. The Eagles aren’t going to draft a QB that high in this draft; there is no one worthy of that. Cousins, Weeden, Foles, Tanehill, none of them.