Let me start this by saying that I am not a fan of Andre Iguodala. Yes, he’s a great defender with a ton of athleticism. Well, I don’t pay north of $13 million per year for that. I don’t care about his highlight dunks; they are still only worth two points. His jump shot is pretty bad, with a high arc that just doesn’t lend itself to consistency. He doesn’t take it to the rack like he used to. He makes dumb turnovers. And don’t even get me started on asking him to hit a big shot at the end of a game.
I’m not a fan.
So, when this Sports Illustrated article hit with a quote from him about the poor defense of his teammate Lou Williams, it was pretty much the last straw for me (even though the last straw for me was actually sometime last season or the season before).
Iggie starts pontificating about scorers and defenders and wonders aloud why more great scorers aren’t great defenders. Fine, fair point. But then, he proceeds to throw Sweet Lou under the bus:
“I learned from being a go-to guy what I didn’t like,” Iguodala says. “Coaches tell you, ‘Get to the hole. Don’t settle for jump shots.’ So when I guard somebody, I want them to settle for jumpers—outside the paint but inside the three-point line—and then use my length to contest late.” Iguodala memorizes where opponents hold the ball before they raise it up. Bryant is the toughest to strip because he cradles the ball by his hip; Lakers forward Metta World Peace might appear to be the easiest, because he puts it in front of his body, but he is trying to draw cheap fouls. “It makes no sense to me why so many good scorers can’t defend,” Iguodala says. “Like Lou Williams. He’s one of the toughest guys to guard in the league, but he can’t guard anybody. I don’t get that.”
“[H]e can’t guard anybody.”
Seriously? What good comes from you saying that, Andre? Please, share with us all. The Sixers season is spiraling out of control for a variety of reasons, and then he needs to pour this verbal gasoline on the fire.
Maybe he’s close with Williams and this is an on-going joke. I guess that’s possible, but it still doesn’t look good. If I’m Lou, I think I might decide to wonder aloud myself. I might wonder why more guys who get paid $13+ million per year aren’t better basketball players. How come guys who get paid so much can’t make a free throw with any consistency? So many players, like say Andre Iguodala, who make all this money can hardly be trusted with the ball in their hands. Sweet Lou might say that he “just doesn’t get that.”
I know Iggie has his defenders who praise his defense and energy, and will point to his All Star appearance (completely fraudulent by the way) this season. I don’t care. I don’t buy it. He’s too expensive to be so deficient in so many areas. This is not money well spent.
And now you can throw “calling out teammates” to the list of things I don’t like about him.
This team needs some drastic changes in my mind. And I’m not just saying this because they lost to a pathetic Raptors team tonight. Honestly, If they blew this team up I would not care because the guys they have now will never win a championship or even get out of the East to say the least. To me nobody on this team is untouchable…I don’t see anybody being a top 5 player at their position in the near future.
You play to win championships..not to make the 1st round of the playoffs which is the only thing these guys could do if they get lucky.
There is just no way in hell this team of guys could ever beat the Bulls or HEat in a playoff series.
I think they should pull a Redskins move here and trade the house in draft picks to get Anthony Davis. I would trade this years 1st and many more 1st rounds for whatever it takes because you’re not getting a game changer with the mid rounds anyways.
AMnesty brand after season…trade Iggy for a scorer and whoever else on this team for some new faces and a new mix of guys
In regard to the article on Iggy I could really care less what the guy says. IM just completely sick of him as a player. I don’t understand why people think he is an elite defender either, he is just above average to me..his jump shot is terrible…he can’t make free throws for his life…he is probably the worst player in the NBA with 2 min left in a one possession game…he doesn’t drive to the hole unless its on a break which is a travesty considering his athleticism and size(probably cuz he will miss the free throws anyways)…you could just go on and on with this guy but the last thing I care about is what he says…just show up on the court and win something
finally Andre Iguodala is acting like a leader — Micah Warren you are way off base — opposing point guards have torched the 76ers all year, it is a problem—-Thad Young and Lou Williams for Atlanta’s Josh Smith make it happen both are too small and weak for their positions, one can’t rebound and one can’t defend
Eagle I don’t think this makes Iggy much of a leader at all but i do actually like when players get called out by other players, coaches, fans etc for their faults..I just wish a player or Collins would call Iggy out as well for his faults because he has many
Removing iggy from this team makes the sixers a three year lotto team instantly — The sixers have a horrible defensive team without him —- name one player who is good defender without Iggy in the game, I’ll give you the answer zero
This team with these players including like Iggy could be a lotto team again EASILY…they are not very good as is and could easily miss the playoffs which would be truly pathetic…Honestly they have proved nothing this year other than that they can beat up on really bad teams all season. And now they can’t even win those games anymore.
you can find guys that play pretty good defense on the open market every year and they don’t cost you what Iggy makes.see battier
Collins feels he must constantly ‘give the love’ to Iggy, so he won’t sulk.
Micah, PHENOMENAL article! AGREE 100% Eagle 0, are you on drugs!? How does publicly ripping your city, fans & your own teammate, who is your only offensive threat, who gives it his all, every-time he is out there, make him acting like a leader. Are you a dumb@$$? You said- “Removing iggy from this team makes the sixers a three year lotto team instantly-” Where the hell are they going anyways? He should have been removed from here 3 f^#@ing years ago, but Stephanski killed this team with Brands, Williams’s & his albatross contracts!! Stinkadala is a fraudulent, overrated, overpaid, delusional, egotistical DOG!!! You got to be kidding me!? He is the Bobby Abreu, Donovan McNabb of the 76er’s. Hands down his title! HE MUST GO, ASAP!!! We will never win a f^#@ing thing with this dog. Making $13,531,750- $14,718,250-$15,904,750, for the next 3 years, warrants more than the occasional solid defense, & dunk! He can’t shoot at all, has stopped almost all together, taking it to the rim, can’t shoot 3-pointers, or foul shots, so what good is he bringing to this team of fraudulent, misfits? Nothing!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, HE IS A BUM & THIS TEAM CAN NEVER PROPERLY REBUILD, UNTIL BRAND & HE ARE LONG GONE!!! You said- “Thad Young and Lou Williams for Atlanta’s Josh Smith. BRILLIANT!! Williams is an off-season FA’s & Thadd is one of the very few worth keeping! Is it his fault that idiot Collins is playing him off of the bench & at PF!? JEESH!!!
DCar… I was just visiting but wow!!!! you really don’t like Iguodala. I haven’t followed Sixer basketball since the days of Dr. J, Barkeley, and Iverson so I’m not expert or enthusiast, but is Iguodala that bad? I mean there’s a heck of a lot of anger in your post towards this guy. Help me out… what’ the deal? BTW… any thoughts on the Eagles FO?
lions, how did you figure that out? LOL! I’m not alone on Stinkadala. The thing that pisses me off is his own delusional thought process, He in his own words has claimed he is the best shut down defenders in the league. He said he is a starting All Star & wined when he wasn’t voted. He’s WAY overpaid for what his game contributes. He has been in the league for 7 freaking years & he has done nothing to improve upon his always flawed game. He has regressed every year. He has the worst jump shoot, ball handling skills & foul shooting on the team. He doesn’t take the ball to the hoop anymore & cannot hit a big shot. NEED I GO ON!?!?
LOL!!!! DCar it was a lucky guess. I remember when the Sixers drafted him as Iverson’s heir apparent so for him not to have progressed much since then does kinda suck. I can see where you’re coming from… if he hasn’t elevated his game how can he criticize anybody else for not elevating theirs.
Stinkadala???? Where do you guys get these names?! LOL!!!!
I loathe Iguodala, but I have no problem calling out Lou Williams for anything and everything. Lou Williams is the biggest fraud on this team. I don’t care if he averages 15/game…he shoots 38% and can’t defend anyone so he probably lets up twice that amount. Someone needs to tell him he’s not Vinnie Johnson….course, it would mean more if it wasn’t Iguodala who couldn’t score on Gary Coleman….
Dcar, I know I cannot change your opinion on Iggy but he is carrying this team on his back. Andre is one of maybe four or five players in the league that play 3 positions on the court. He has a sore knee and split eye right now and you see what this team is without a healthy Iguodala.
Iggy would be a fine 2nd option, but he’s not. Lou Williams is a good player (and has the highesr Rauland rating on the team). Honestly, I wish Andre was a better offensive player and Williams was a better defensive player, but that’s not going to happen. I agree with Micah, Iggy shouldn’t call out his team mate when his game has major holes in it.
I think this summer is the time to move him and turn over his role to Evan Turner and Thad Young.
Iggy sucks. Period.
Iggy IS one of the better defenders in the league. And he HAS improved at defense. Dcar – if you deny this you’re foolishly letting your hate for him cause you to say incorrect things. He was NOT drafted as AI’s heir apparent – two completely different players and nobody ever confused their styles.
I do however believe that he should be banned from the game for the last 3 minutes – every game. I’ve thought this for years. He’s got a psychological issue that Donovan had, that many Philly athletes get – and I blame the hating fans. But he should NOT be allowed to shoot within the last minutes of the game. Otherwise, he’s a great defender, good scorer and a good piece to have on a team. He never should be considered the go to offensive powerhouse. He’s got speicific STRENGTHS which he HAS improved on – FACT – but he has equally specific and significant flaws – end of game play.
Oh stop bitching. You are all the same fans who f&*ing criticized Iverson for years. Waaaa he doesnt practice. Waaaaa he is a ball hog…. Waaaa he wear his hear like a thug….. We want a team to play the right way.lolololol.Enjoy what you asked for.
it is the typical Philly fan move to trash Iggy…he is a good player who is miscast, because there is no star on this team to carry them…look at the role he plays when he joins the national team…if the Sixers had a legit scorer at the two, Iggy would flourish just picking up dunks and garbage offense…the fact that he cant score at the end of the game highlights the teams shortcomings not Iggy’s…he’s the type of player who on a good team, they would NEVER run a play for him…he’s a good defender, a good distibuter, and he gets out on the break as good as anyone in the league….im not saying he’s worth his contract, and i’m not calling him an elite player…but he is a good player on a good (but not good enough) team
Dag don’t know who you are talking to but if its me you’re all wrong…Iverson is and will always likely be my favorite player out of all the Philadelphia SPorts teams. Like i said i don’t care what these guys say..its all about how they play to me. I actually think some of what Iggy said is true…I like many philly fans don’t need these guys to be my role model, just want to see success in the games. Its just too bad Iggy’s game on the court is nothing special to see.
who cares…the NBA sucks!
eagles0, Iggy carries the team on his back!?!? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
dagg, I’m not the same fans who bitched about AI, I loved AI. I couldn’t care less what way he wore his hair. So you are an idiot, as usual.
Schill, still clueless, still an idiot, still a know-nothing. For you to still say it’s the fans fault, that he/ they aren’t playing well, is all I have to say about that. You seriously should never make another comment, about any topic on sports. EVER! You have ZERO knowledge, or knowhow, on any sports. You are constantly proven wrong, & shown to be a criticizing, argumentative, know-nothing, but yet still bring up your meaningless, baseless, fact-less comments & rebuttals. You are WRONG, GET OVER IT! Stinkadala is an overrated, overpaid, delusional, cock-bag, stiff & he couldn’t lead us to a championship, if we were the only NBA team. We will never win with him & he is holding this team back with his contract & his game. PLAIN & SIMPLE, END OF STORY!
Dcar you know nothing about basketball — Andre Iguodala is the best player on the team and Elton Brand is the 2nd best player on the team and the rest is a bunch of crap —- they only have 2 real basketball players that understand the game and don’t make mental mistakes —-TWO THATS IT AND YOU WANT TO REMOVE ONE OF THEM BECAUSE HE CAN’T WAVE A MAGIC WAND AND TURN SCRAWNY WEAKLINGS INTO QUALITY STARTERS(lou williams, thad young and spencer hawes)
eagles0, you are either messing with me, or you are clearly out of your f^#@ing mind. I’ve more about B-ball, than you can ever hope to attain! Give me a break! It isn’t even worth arguing with you nitwits, over anymore, because clearly you are clueless, mindless, delusional dopes!
** I’ve forgot more about B-ball, than you can ever hope to attain! **
First of all let me say Micah Warren….**FANTASTIC ARTICLE** You hit the nail on the head, when you said, He’s too expensive to be so deficient in so many areas.
Someone said that he is carrying this team??!!??……When!! this year? Last year? Where did he carry them to?
In years past, the 76ers have not had a marketing chip since Allen Iverson. He was chosen by management to be the face of the Sixers. Thats why the ball was in his hands like 70% of the games, even when the fans watching knew he would not come through in the clutch, but Doug Collins would insist that he’s the man….YEAH RIGHT!!! His game has not, established that he is carying the team, especially when he scores 6 points in 36 minutes, and Thaddeus, and Lou are your leading scorers off the bench.
People talk about his defense, his assist, and his rebounding. Those who have played the game, like my man DCar, and Myself will tell you he will turn to just assisting, and focus on rebounding, when he is cognizant that he can’t get it done and he yields to someone else, rather than try to take over the game, when he knows that his shot isn’t falling. I HAVE STATED ON THESE POST BEFORE THAT HE IS MEDIOCRE. Anyone that thinks he is a superstar, does not know basketball, or the difference between a basketball player, and an athlete that plays basketball.
Micah Warren – AMEN BROTHER
A good argument can be made though that without him the sixes are worse but with him as their go to guy they cannot beat a good team, he is a sub part on a better team, not this team, and his attitude makes him the Bobby abreu of the sixers, they need to blow this thing up, and right now Collins is coaching like a pansy, cry baby, he’s toast too
As far as I am concerned,
The Basketball Season ended back on Monday evening when Kentucky beat Kansas for the NCAA Championship.. I hate Pro Basketball and the NBA and what’s going with the 76ers and 2/3 of the other teams in the NBA is a good reason why.. Lots ot medicority except for about 5-6 Teams that have the Superstars..Players are selfish and most teams lack real Teamwork… 76ers had it the first 30 games or so to start the season 2 and then got back to playing individual basketball and each player for his own stats..
This comment that Iggy made was said the sports illustrated as a joke, and Lou even alluded to it at shoot around the other day. Guys wait to pounce on iggy every chance they get without having all the facts. Micah i do agree with alot of what you had to say. Iggy is no go to guy as much as he may think he his. Hes a great defender but his offensive game is that “offensive”..before his big contract he was driving to the hoop with regularity now you can say they couldnt pay him to do it, literally. This years draft/offseason is huge for this team. They have to find themselves a pure scorer, someone that can create his own shot. There are guys in this draft that can be a superstar in the coming years. I like a guy names Austin Rivers whos 6’4 200pounds lightning quick and can create his own shot, is not bashful on offense and has the ability to take over games and make clutch big shots. Id select him in a hot second. Anx they
This comment that Iggy made was said the sports illustrated as a joke, and Lou even alluded to it at shoot around the other day. Guys wait to pounce on iggy every chance they get without having all the facts. Micah i do agree with alot of what you had to say. Iggy is no go to guy as much as he may think he his. Hes a great defender but his offensive game is that “offensive”..before his big contract he was driving to the hoop with regularity now you can say they couldnt pay him to do it, literally. This years draft/offseason is huge for this team. They have to find themselves a pure scorer, someone that can create his own shot. There are guys in this draft that can be a superstar in the coming years. I like a guy names Austin Rivers whos 6’4 200pounds lightning quick and can create his own shot, is not bashful on offense and has the ability to take over games and make clutch big shots. Id select him in a hot second. And they probably will if he falls into the 11-20 range..
JH, it was NOT, said as a joke. Go read the article fool. He was making up BS to try to put out the unnecessary fire that he started. If you don’t understand that, you are even more of a gullible, delusional, idiot than I thought. You are a fraud just like this team. SHOW YA LUV!!!