• May 18, 2024

Michael Vick Must Go Back To The Fundamentals

It’s soul-searching time for Michael Vick and the Philadelphia Eagles.  He has to go back to the beginning and reestablish the foundations of playing the quarterback position.  Any time you fall apart in a game, you have to go back to your fundamentals.

Vick lost his confidence in that game and fell apart.  He had to have been guessing to have played so poorly.  He wasn’t reading the coverages, he was guessing.  Vick was staring down receivers, then throwing the ball to them.  You’re supposed to do the opposite.  You look defenders off then come back to your receiver.   Vick was playing like an inexperienced rookie.

He reestablished some of his confidence on that last drive, but he’s got to get himself together.  The quarterback must look at the tape of the game, identify his mistakes, then move on.  He can’t let himself go back to all the interceptions over and over in his mind,  and dwell on his mistakes.  He needs to start dwelling on the answers or corrections to his mistakes rather than his mistakes.  That’s over, now let’s move on.

Andy Reid can say whatever he wants to say, I believe he thought about going to Nick Foles during that game.  He had to at least considered it or he wouldn’t have been doing his job as the head coach.  I believe he did the right thing by staying with Vick because it’s so early in the season.  If he had yanked him in the first game it would have sent the message that he didn’t have any confidence in him.

Reid did a great job yesterday in the news conference by shielding and deflecting criticism of Michael Vick.  The coach knows how poorly he played, so it was important that he go out publicly and express confidence in the quarterback.  It’s too early in the season to abandon Vick.

“You just can’t have those, and I would say that we didn’t play as disciplined offensively as we needed to all the way around,” Reid said Monday. “I know Michael took the blame yesterday. It’s not a one-man show. That’s not what it is. Everybody had a piece of this pie, starting with me and the coaches.”

I was pleased to hear that Mardy Gilyard is visiting the Birds later today.  Jeff McLane of Philly.com reported that yesterday.

Did you see the Baltimore Ravens last night?  Joe Flacco has taken his game to another level. The Eagles had better get their act together or things could get ugly this Sunday at Lincoln Financial Field.

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rcp1936
rcp1936
September 11, 2012 7:38 am

After the first week there are 12 QBs with a rating of 100 or higher
Sure as heck is a QB dominated league and the Eagles don’t have even an adequate one at this point

scramz25
scramz25
September 11, 2012 7:59 am

if andy didnt run at a defense that has problems stopping the run and throws 56 times to a defense that has a good secondary, Watch him run the ball against a good run stop team. the bad thing is they have a awsome secondary also so what is going to do then?

And if you guys didnt notice last night the ravens use no huddle.. That means they dont give you time to change personel on defense so whch also means THEY WILL SCORE MORE THAN 17 POINTS, thats not good enough to beat the Ravens 17???? come on this is supposed to be a super bowl team??I think we have seen the last of coach reid and his whack ass show The Mick Vick experiance..

With all those weapons you have on that field you dont need a Dynamic QB you need a SMART QB who can control the game and get the ball to the playmakers not try and make all the plays himself . ITS BECAUSE OF HIS EGO. He is to used to being on the cover of something and now that the spot light isnt shining on him he is trying to be the man. well guess what buddy the spot light is on you But for being the worst QB in the Division.. THANKS ANDY

rcp1936
rcp1936
September 11, 2012 8:00 am

How come my comments keep getting deleted

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 11, 2012 8:14 am

Opened up Gcobb this am. Saw this headline and orange juice came out my nose.

Too funny.

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 11, 2012 8:18 am

the fundamental he needs is to read the freaking blitz. People complain about the OL and thats not the real issue if he could read the blitz and do what a good qb does in those cases we wouldn’t be having this discussion. We would then be praising his allusiveness that he would be using in the case of a true OL breakdown, which will happen. as of now he is using this allusiveness when he should be reading the blitz and the coverage and hitting hot receivers- deliver to hot, if he breaks it its a huge play, if not its 2nd and 8 and we line up again–

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 11, 2012 8:51 am

@RCP – and how many of those QB’s TEAM has an 0-1 record…A FEW OF THEM!

Fellas its a team sport….Vick struggled this Sunday and got a W….

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 11, 2012 9:25 am

Good NFL quarterbacks invite the blitz.

goforit
goforit
September 11, 2012 9:35 am

A franchise QB should not need this much coaching and attention. If we are telling the QB to get back to fundamentals – play the rookie and let the team grow with him.

Remember how fast mcnabb was pushed out of the league…

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 11, 2012 9:52 am

@Haveac

did you review the tape? how about you ?
did you review the tape with AR? a lot of the blame has been put on Vick, and you know what, he deserves, I/WE expect more from him, no doubt…and he can’t continue to make poor decisions.
But at some point you have to think logical…Why are our speedy receivers not getting separation, why on every drop back was a defender around? Vick’s fault too? Go listen to the coaches press conference and you’ll see that OTHER things was the contributing factor in the poor performance yesterday….

scramz25
scramz25
September 11, 2012 11:44 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

hey real talk i understand whatyou are saying but as far as the speedy recievers are concerned thats Andy reids fault for not designing a play to have them in motion. there is no way in this leauge where 200 lbs corners bench press 500lbs and they get manhandled by a 150 lbs man. They are to damn small to stand there THATS why they couldnt get off the blocks. you need bigger recievers, ALSO our system is designed for a 3 step drop and GET rid of the ball. BUt Vick cant see over the line so he has to take 5 to 7 steps ad if you blitz a man running backwards yo uget to him faster EVERY TIME. FOles gets the ball out becasue he can stand there and see the field, Sorry buddy there is no wa ou tof this one, Vick is to small he is only effective rolling out the pocket. and that falls on andy for not PUTTUNG THEM IN THE RIGHT POSTION TO BE EFFECTIVE. HE has to do a better a job..lol

First off no line in the NFL canhold a block for 7 to 9 seconds silly these guys are to strong and fast now. 3 seconds yes but not 9. and thenyou dont roll into a blitz..lol your crazy for asking that question.

come on witha hard question for me buddy..lol

scramz25
scramz25
September 11, 2012 11:58 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

personally Real, i think the line dosent want to block for Vick they look like they want the youg boy in .. They know it… They dont have to hold blocks that long with Foles in.. Do you remeber the first interview with KELCE after the first game Vick went out?? HE said it with passion that “WHEN VICK DOES GO OUT” foles will do just fine.. Look it up buddy . sounds like they are jsut waiting and the soonr the better. No body wants to block for a selfish man who is arrogant. Vick no longer is humble bro. He keeps messing up because he is trying to be the man.
there are to many articles about him were he is talking how no one remembers what he is..

paulman
paulman
September 11, 2012 10:04 am

I agree 100% with Go4it above…
I don’t think Vick even Survives this upcoming game with the Ravens who will k nock him out.. FOles & Edwards better get some Reps this week and be ready to come in and play..

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 11, 2012 10:09 am

Vick will be at top form on Sunday…!

DCar
DCar
September 12, 2012 2:44 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

Top form, throwing int’s & making f^#@ing mistakes. That’s the only top form he knows. He blows bruh! Face the truth. I love your passion man, but we ain’t ever winning with this dude. I hate to say that, but after 10 years in the league, he ain’t learned $#!t. He is, was & always will be a flawed, mistake prone, injury prone, stubborn, arrogant, moron, who is incapable of changing for the better. He did just enough in those 5-7 games 2 years ago, to sucker the front office into giving him another $100M contract, & as I said then he would revert back into his old selfish, stupid self. I wish I was wrong, but I’m not!

jakedog
jakedog
September 11, 2012 10:27 am

classic post scramz, the whack ass mv7 experiment, that’s exactly what it was. a social experiment, project by Lurie, NFL, mv is a tough sob, but he stinks as an nfl quarterback

EaglesSuck
EaglesSuck
September 11, 2012 10:36 am

Andy Reid is gone after this season. Hopefully Joe Philbin will be the guy but I think Jeffery Lurey would want a guy like Jon Gruden who would make a immediate impact on this team and knows how to get the most out of his players.

EaglesSuck
EaglesSuck
September 11, 2012 10:37 am

*Jeffery Lurie

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 11, 2012 10:41 am

@ Eagles….you suck…

you’re not even an Eagles fan….why are you commenting?

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
September 11, 2012 11:15 am

Baltimore 30

our Eagles 20

Juan carriage turn back into a pumpkin.

EaglesSuck
EaglesSuck
September 11, 2012 11:24 am

@ UnRealTalk

For the 100th time I blog on many sports related webpages Giants, Eagles, Redskins etc. When I signed up for the comments I didnt see a section where it stated you must be a Eagles fan to comment. At heart I love Football not just a single team. Although I grew up a in Queens NY I was raised a Giants fan.

As far as EaglesSuck its just a way to get a rise out of guys like you. Mission accomplished.

Anyhow…

Sept 30th ill be in the building Lincoln Financial Field! never been there but I been to the Vet many times as a kid so im looking forward to it. Stop by Section 118 ill buy you a drink.

Eagles fan or Giants fans in the end we’re all American 9/11 FOREVER

paulman
paulman
September 11, 2012 11:48 am

Vick is the biggest “Bum Ass” on the Eagles Roster by far..
Forget about back-up Players like Matthews Jr, Riley Cooper and Nate Allen
the Player who is holding this Team back is none other than QB Vick and until changes are made at the QB postion, then Eagles are .500 Team at best Vick is not a NFL QB, he frankly is not smart or quick enough with his decision making..

mhenski
mhenski
September 11, 2012 12:19 pm

I am confused by this article a little do you want Vick to go back to HIS fundamentals or typical QB fundamentals?

Vick fundamentals is way different than normal QB fundamentals. Vick fundamentals are lost confidence and thin skin, not having a clue how to read coverage, staring down receivers then throwing the ball to them, panicking in the pocket, not being able to fire the ball quickly against the blitz, completing around 50% of his passes, throwing picks, spreading herpes.

mhenski
mhenski
September 11, 2012 12:26 pm

Vick is the biggest “Bum Ass” on the Eagles Roster by far..
Forget about back-up Players like Matthews Jr, Riley Cooper and Nate Allen
the Player who is holding this Team back is none other than QB Vick and until changes are made at the QB postion, then Eagles are .500 Team at best Vick is not a NFL QB, he frankly is not smart or quick enough with his decision making..

SPOT ON PAUL

mhenski
mhenski
September 11, 2012 12:27 pm

Andy is right there with him though Paul this lack of running is/has and will be a problem.

Erock
Erock
September 11, 2012 12:32 pm

Do any of you remember the Bengals are the Ravens whipping boy? Im not taking away from the win. I like the Ravens team.Thought they were the most complete team last season.Seems like the majority on this site feel hes incapable of playing well against a quality d and the defense got a easy one against a rook q. Yes, but the rest of there offense has plenty of vets.The Ravens can be ran on and i like our tight ends agains that backer core. Seems like Dalton was forcing it to AJ Green every other down. Did any corners on the Bengals make a play last night?

Erock
Erock
September 11, 2012 12:35 pm

And he had a good perfomances against bad team end of last year.So he cant have a stinker after no real action for a year. Im given him a pass cause he threw a game winner.

Mhenski…are you Pauls little brother or just another pawn who spews whatever he hears on wip?

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 11, 2012 12:39 pm

– you must not of watched the game buddy…or any others for that matter….there are alot of QB’s that take 5-7 step drops from time to time…in fact Vick was in the shotgun for most of the game…

you know what to avoid confusion…lets go to the man who is responsible for this football team….AR

“Like I said it’s a combination of things. It starts with the plays that are dialed up. It starts with protection and then it comes back to decision making. All three of those things fit into what took place and you’ve got to add the route running in there too. If they’re going to come up and bang you around then you’ve got to work like crazy to get yourself open and do the right thing. Everybody had a piece of that. It’s always going to fall on the quarterback’s shoulders and we have one that takes that responsibility and he takes it to heart. But in reality when you put on the tape everybody’s got to do their job. You play an aggressive defense that’s good against the pass, particularly last year, then you have to come and you’ve got to be ready to roll every snap and you’ve got to be aggressive every snap. We have to do a better job with that.”

But I guess you are the expert…

scramz25
scramz25
September 11, 2012 3:14 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

nope not expert just cant be fooled after 14 years of the same bullish bro. They gets no pass from me. i been arounf the game way to long to be drinking that juice most fans are on..lol Vick has been around 10 seasons and still cant get it done.. AR got 14 in and same ol shit for 14 years ago. NO EXCUSES thats all.. You get it your first 4 to 5 years after that the game changes on you. Time to move on.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 11, 2012 12:48 pm

“spreading Herpes” Brilliant.

I’ll also be at the Sept 30 game. Coming down with 3 buddies. Thought we’d all wear dog catcher uniforms, but have ixnayed that plan as it doesn’t look like Vick will be the starter by week 4, so there wouldn’t be a point.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
September 11, 2012 12:55 pm

hahaha Vinnie traveling with what he calls “buddies”, forgot to insert the word butt prior…

I wish I was gonna be at the game Vinnie, I’d come up and smack the hell out of all 4 of you!

doesn’t look like Vick will be the starter week 4
Dumb, just dumb….

anyone that thinks AR will bench Vick other than injury must of bumped their head!

mhenski
mhenski
September 11, 2012 2:25 pm

erock i watch the games and call it like i see it. dont blame me because you are poor and live in eddystone and cant afford an HD TV to watch the game.

RealTalk777 you are a weirdo and probably a sexual predator too. anyone that feels the need to talk about gay anal sex everyday on a sports message board is a sick perverted weirdo.

paulman
paulman
September 11, 2012 3:05 pm

Erock,
I live over 500 miles away from PHilly and don’t listent to Talk Radio, I formulate my opinions on this Team by watching them play and right now, they are not even close to a Playoof Type of Team, If they can split 2-2 out of the first 4 Games, then they will have a shot.. They lose this Week, it will be an uphill battle for the rest of the Season

greenfan
greenfan
September 11, 2012 3:10 pm

The last paragraph of G’s article is very true. Watching the Ravens game last night it was clear to see that Flacco was on fire, and running the “no-huddle” offense at a very high level.
Last week our defense played very well, but it is unclear if they are very good or just playing against a poor offense with a Rookie QB. This week will be a huge test for our defense…let’s hope that our offense does not put them in difficult situations throughout the game.

GO BIRDS!!

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 11, 2012 3:55 pm

News flash both mannings, Brady, breeze , Rogers, big Ben’S coaches have all told them to go back to fundamentals! A100 Million dollar qb (twice) has to go back to fundamentals. To the Vick supporters not one coach in this league would give you a second round pick for this clown. We are screwed

haveacigar
haveacigar
September 11, 2012 4:00 pm

Fundamentals Is foundation or basis;BASIC… We have a franchise qb that has to go back to basics… Translation=he is an idiot.
You can’t do calculus without math fundamentals… Our guy is in short bus math class, the rest of th leagu is at MIT

goforit
goforit
September 11, 2012 5:51 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Remedial math…..lol

jakedog
jakedog
September 11, 2012 7:05 pm

Good stuff cigar, we are screwed with Vick

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
September 11, 2012 8:50 pm

I missed the butt-buddies bit.

You seem like a very angry person Realtalk.

Every thread has to end with you proclaiming the tired, “I’ll kick your ass ’cause I still think I’m in junior high and you’re saying bad things about my most favourite favouritest player!!

Not sure why the truth (Vick stinks) affects you so personally. You should talk to someone about that. I’ve read that therapists can do wonders with anger issues.

They might also help you come to grips with the whole homo-erotic obsession you have going on.

DCar
DCar
September 12, 2012 2:50 am

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Butch007
Butch007
September 11, 2012 10:55 pm

I’m actually fairly confident about the Eagles chances to make life difficult for Joe Flacco on Sunday. I have reservations about the offense, but I also think they could have a break-out game.

As to whether the defense just played well against a bad team…Highly unlikely, last year they looked lost and confused against the worst opponents. They looked pretty crystal clear about what their strategy was and how to implement it this past Sunday which is HUGE.