• November 28, 2022

Thoughts From Eagles-Redskins

Reid’s Last Home Game

The Eagles haven’t shown a lot of heart this year, but they came out and played hard for their head coach in what is very likely to be Andy Reid’s final home game as the head coach of Philadelphia.

The Eagles fought back from a 14-point deficit to make it a seven-point game and had an opportunity to tie the game in the final seconds. But the disappointing team that Michael Vick believed was going to be the start of a dynasty (HA) just didn’t have enough gas in the tank to finish the job.

The familiar problems that have plagued the team all season resurfaced in their typical fashions today.

This team just won’t stop turning the ball over. Nick Foles had an interception off of a tipped ball and also lost a fumble. If the Eagles would learn just to cut down on their mistakes, they might be capable of winning seven or eight games.

The defense had their bright moments, but ultimately couldn’t come together and find answers for Robert Griffin, Alfred Morris, and the rest of the Washington offense. Even on a day where RGIII wasn’t at 100%, he was still able to guide his team on five scoring drives against the Eagles.

It looked as though the game could have taken a turn similar to the Cincinnati game in which the Eagles just completely collapsed in the fourth quarter and a close game quickly became a blowout. But this week, Reid’s team fought to the final minutes, and got on the comeback trail similar to the one they went on in Tampa Bay. They even got down to goalline in the final moments, but this time there wouldn’t be a victory on a last-second touchdown.

Quick Thoughts

  • Nice play by Colt Anderson to break up a pass on fourth down during the first quarter. Anderson turned in another nice performance as a starter. He may never be an All-Star caliber player, but he’s a guy you want on your roster. It was great to see Anderson get an interception in the fourth quarter.
  • Evan Moore, signed off of the streets this week, nearly made a nice play for a touchdown in the second quarter. However, the tight end couldn’t keep his feet in bounds, and the Eagles had to settle for a field goal. Moore dropped a potential game-tying touchdown on the goalline later in the game.
  • Nick Foles put up 345 yards with a touchdown and an interception. I thought Foles showed signs of progress in this game. Although he wasn’t perfect, and made a handful of mistakes, the rookie got his second look at the Washington Redskins and performed much better against them in this game than he did a month ago. The fact that he helped guide the team on a nearly-successful comeback effort for the second time in three games is also impressive.
  • Foles seems to have developed a lot of trust in Jeremy Maclin. Maclin caught eight passes for 116 yards and a touchdown. He’s had his best games with Foles under center.
  • Another guy who has benefited from working with Foles is Jason Avant. Avant has reemerged as a reliable weapon in the offense ever since the third round pick took over as the starter, and had eight catches for 70 yards today.
  • Darryl Tapp was inactive for today’s game. About time. I don’t understand why the coaching staff kept him active over young guys like Vinny Curry and Phillip Hunt, especially after the playoffs were well out of reach.
  • Ugly start to the third quarter, the Eagles let the Redskins march right down the field and allowed running back Alfred Morris to go untouched into the endzone.
  • LeSean McCoy looked pretty good today, but he has no business playing in either of these final regular season games. The last thing this team needs is for their franchise running back to suffer any kind of damaging injury that will impact his status for next year.
  • McCoy was active as both a runner and a receiver, collecting 122 total yards.
  • Dion Lewis had a nice touchdown run in the fourth quarter to make it a one score game. Lewis showed the impressive explosive burst that helped him make the team a year ago.
  • The return of McCoy meant Bryce Brown saw his workload decrease significantly.
  • Foles had Jeremy Maclin open for the touchdown on the final drive, but threw a poor pass and couldn’t get him the ball.

Final Thoughts

The Eagles currently sit at 4-11, and are on the verge of securing the third overall pick in next year’s draft. One game remains against what will be a desperate New York Giants team.

In the final week of the season, we’ll get a final look at Nick Foles. Has the rookie done enough to be named the starting quarterback in 2013?

Are there any other young players on the defense that will step up and be noticed? Colt Anderson certainly did that in this game, are any of his teammates capable of putting on a similar show?

We’re almost at the finish line, folks. One more week of the Andy Reid era.

 

Denny Basens

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SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 23, 2012 5:34 pm

We’ve went from looking to challenge for a top seed to make a run, to looking at what 3rd or 4th stringer will make the team.

I blame Lurie for this wasted season. He should have fire andy’s ass after that pathetic last season

peace112
peace112
December 23, 2012 5:35 pm

hmmmm, thought foles was goin to save the day…..

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 23, 2012 5:43 pm

The fat man dressed so jolly as this was the last time he’d walk the sideline,merrily we all sing carols and drink egg nog ,and fans will blog.Who should replace AR? Will the fat man dressed in all his splendor pushes his tackling sleigh clear out of sight.Go Marty and your inane offensive mind where you run so few !as passes continually flew.Wheres Washburn and his wide nine ,what a colossal waste of our time.take mudd and the offensive crud,a fireman who can’t play ,we gotta do a better job? Just not here the fans all cheer.take your speedball rushers and corners taht can’t play ,and safeties that tackle so weak ,take your stash which grows like Andys weed ,It a disciplined coach taht is all we now need.take your undisciplined time management and your drafts out the door.No more end game summation ,(clear your throat) IGotta do a better job,no longer will be heard from this Eagles nation.As you leave in the dark of the night lock the door behind you and turn out the light.Just do us all a favor and Jeff will do,what’s right. joy to the birds ,let’s begin anew….happy holidays and enjoy for the AR era has come to a befitting end…peace .

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 5:45 pm

Denny,
I agree about McCoy. He should not be playing at all
Despite Foles passing for 345 yds. I thought his progression kind of stagnated today. THat final drive I thought wasted too much time to the point where they could have at least 2 more plays. Two and three yard dumpoffs? No side line patterns? I thought he could have run out of bounds on a couple of plays to stop the clock.

This defense cannot make stops when they need to. Colt Anderson is a nice piece but a faster safety would not have been beaten on the corner route by Holmes.

Ball security needs to be a priority at next OTA’s and camp. What was the turnover differential heading into this game minus 22? That spells losing team every time.

Time to start looking at draft options. Do the Eagles keep the 3rd or 4th pick or trade for multiple picks. Any teams have multiple 1st rounders or a few 2nd rounders? It is going to be interesting.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 5:52 pm

That final drive I thought wasted too much time to the point where they could have at least 2 more plays.

they got to the 5 and ran 3 plays…the 3rd ending with 2 seconds to go….should have been able to run 4 if not for the absurd grounding penalty

what you should be looking at is that – for the first time in forever – the Eagles went into that last drive with 3 timeouts and so were able to use thos dumpoffs to make it down the field and get to the point where they hav 4 shots at the endzone….lest we forget that there was a perfect throw for a TD on the second last play of the game

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 6:10 pm

Vin, I know you love Foles but calm down. I am supporting the kid too but you are a little ridiculous with your blind defense of him constantly. The drive wasted too much time. Throwing the ball in the middle of the field for 2 and 3 yards. They are ROOKIE MISTAKES! They wasted all three time outs when they were at the 30 yard line Weak ass throw to Maclin.
He still has a lot to learn. He will need to attend the turnover sessions at camp too.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 6:35 pm
Reply to  phillyfan

I do not “love” foles…as I stated, I wanted the Eagles to draft Cousins….however….I am not blind to recognize that htis kid is exceedeing my expectaitions…by a long shot. He is putting up/ and playing well beyond his 5 game experience. The future looks really bright for the kid, but there are those on here who still pine for something else…..for reasons known only to them

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 6:47 pm

You want to know what I am pining for? A friggin defense! Foles will be the QB next year. Will he be the ultimate answer? I don’t know Next year will be the telling year. But remember they will have a last place schedule and people will throw that up too. Rely on the running game, build a defense and see what Foles can do with options. That should be the game plan next year.

crazy johnny
crazy johnny
December 23, 2012 5:54 pm

Is VIck as bad as he has looked this year?….maybe. Is Foles a better Qb than VIck?….maybe. Is the real problem the system?….probably. Are we gonna have a new system next year?….definitely. Until then everyone chill and stop arguing over things us fans have no control over. These questions will be answered next season.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 23, 2012 6:17 pm

“EAGLES” = “DUNGEON DWELLERS”

larrwd
larrwd
December 23, 2012 6:37 pm

I wanted Foles over cousins .. I wanted wilson over Foles …

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 6:43 pm

good for you. He wasn’t available.

Wilson is exceeding expectations. Foles is exceeding expectations.

Bully on both of them.

Yet you hate it.

peace112
peace112
December 23, 2012 7:45 pm

Exaclty what expectations is Foles exceeding????

peace112
peace112
December 23, 2012 8:02 pm

Oh on second thoughts, I guess he did exceed expectations, no one thought he would win any games but he did indeed win one, so from that standpoint he has exeeded expectations……my bad

larrwd
larrwd
December 23, 2012 6:48 pm

They shouldnt have fired juan.. Andy probably fired him so he can hire him next year..

jott1972
jott1972
December 23, 2012 7:10 pm

Eagles need to stock pile on the defensive side this offseason and for the offensive side get Foles an athletic TE who can stretch the field and be a red zone threat….the offensive line will be fine with Peters and Kelce back…..Kelly is a backup, dont want to hear he is a possible starter, dude cant pass block worth a damn

jott1972
jott1972
December 23, 2012 7:11 pm

If someone like Zach Ertz falls to the early 2nd round, grab him!

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 7:21 pm

I think this team will score points next year even with a new offensive scheme. I think a big wide receiver will help but other than that emphasize the defense in the draft and sign a cornerback and a safety in FA. Get a good DC and let’s play Eagle defense!

andrew p
andrew p
December 23, 2012 7:32 pm

Sal Pal reported the Eagles have agreed with Reid that they wont delay to release him after the season, that it will be done quick,He also said the Eagles WONT take an up and coming Cord, that it will be someone with HC experience, either from the Pros or College, He said their main target is Chip Kelly. As for me? I say no way! Not as my top choice, first on my list would be Bruce Areians from the Colts! This guy is the real deal! Big Ben is lost without him, Luck is the first overall pic to ever take his team to the playoffs, conscience? I dont think so! He would do wonders for Foles, he should be their top choice!

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
December 23, 2012 7:44 pm
Reply to  andrew p

I agree. That colts team has had new life breathed in to it. Coaching has a TON to do with it. Foles would greatly benefit from that same system.

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 7:46 pm

No college coaches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HC experience huh? Gruden?, Billick? Cowher?, Cameron?, Del Rio? Dungy? Do I need to go on? I hope they look at some coordinators, assistants because what they need is someone from the NFL who is hungry and wants to make a name for themselves. The rest of these guys are contented fat cats or never was. I smell the air of stupidity wafting from Lurie’s bunker? Anyone else think Lurie/Roseman brain trust is going to screw this up. Man I hope Sal Pal is wrong.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 7:59 pm

2 two-minute drills today.

17 of 23.

Damn….that QB totally sucks.

Better bring Vick back.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 8:22 pm

And all that led to 3 points well done Foles well done.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 8:18 pm

Vinny, you, I and a lot of other have their point of view on where the eagles are going. I too think Foles gives the franchise a better opportunity to win. But you have to relax bro.. You’re letting everyone get you going. Frankly it’s funny to see your blatant hate for Vick. He’s not going to be here, eagles are going with Foles. I too think he’s showed enough to earn a shot next year.. It’s going to take some time to rebuild the defense and the o-line. Eagles aren’t that far out if that can be fixed-IMO

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 8:23 pm
Reply to  Frank22

Way to go Frank. I tried to tell him that in an earlier post but he is all hopped up on Foles. Calm down Vin. You are working to hard to prove a point. Foles will be here next year but this team needs to build a defense because if they don’t the kid is going to have to throw for 500 yards and 5 TD’s every game.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 8:29 pm
Reply to  phillyfan

You got that rite.. All secondary all draft and a SAM lb

jakedog
jakedog
December 23, 2012 8:20 pm

Vinnie, you have done a great job attempting to enlighten these women but they are stuck in worship of something that does not exist, and they Are some zeros

jakedog
jakedog
December 23, 2012 8:22 pm

Vinnie is a man, unlike these other bitches who whine, complain pull the rag out

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 8:28 pm

Jakedog is vinnies other screen name

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 8:31 pm

Jake,

We are supporting Vinnie here. What some of us are trying to tell him no matter how hard he tries to promote Foles and role out stats there is a group out there that simply doesn’t give a shit, they want to promote their side. Vinnie will never convince them other wise. He has basically won the argument against the “women” but they don’t care. They just want to wind him up. Next year in the opener Foles will be under center. Case closed. Ignore the others.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 8:34 pm
Reply to  phillyfan

The only way you can guarantee Foles is the starter is if Andy Reid is here.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 8:38 pm

Philly fan – agreed

Big lion- disagree

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 8:39 pm

While we’re not on the subject.. I want Chip Kelly here next year!

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 8:44 pm
Reply to  Frank22

Frank,

Not you too! Please no Chip Kelly, no college coaches.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 9:08 pm
Reply to  Frank22

If you want Chip Kelly Frank, then Foles will not be here and that I can guarantee.

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 8:42 pm

Big,

Don’t think so. They won’t draft a QB because they have too many issues on Defense to address. THey won’t look to trade for some back up that signed a ridiculous contract like a Matt Flynn. Foles will be here for another year so the new coach can make his own evaluation. Next year will be a non contending year anyway so a lot of evaluation will be going on by the new staff Oh and Reid won’t be here.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 9:11 pm
Reply to  phillyfan

I can see that but you know how these coaches are phillyfan they all think they can reinvent the wheel so they want their guys, unless Roseman or Lurie says Foles comes with the job. Then they’ll just put Foles in a position to fail until they get their own guy in there.

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 9:28 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

What I am afraid of is who Lurie.Roseman think there guy is!

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 8:44 pm

I agree with ya…

paulman
paulman
December 23, 2012 8:44 pm

Mike Nolan (D/C of the Falcons) will be the next Coach
Todd Bowles will remain as DC since they worked together for the Miami Dolphins to get the Defensive side of the Ball straight
The OC could be Cam Csneron who was Filres a month ago from
The Colts which he has worked with Flacco pretty well the last few years
Remember you heard it from Paulman first

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 8:46 pm

Paulman.

I hope you are wrong on Cameron.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 9:05 pm

He is undoubtedly wrong.. There is a better chance of the eagles making the playoffs than that happening.. I would however like to see Bowles remain.

paulman
paulman
December 23, 2012 9:15 pm

I mean Cameron who was fired by the Ravens (not Colts)

Rocko
Rocko
December 23, 2012 9:23 pm

Screw what everybody on here talking about. Seattle are some bad Mofo’s and we need some serious kick ass coaching around here. I was hesitant about Chip Kelly at first, but after watching pete Carroll and what he’s doing with them Seahawks., we need Chip Kelly and his high powered offense and defense IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 9:27 pm

biglion- your right in respect to coaches wanting to reinvent the wheel. You may also be right about Chip not wanting Foles here.. But he might and is familiar with him in his time in the PAC 10 or 12 or whatever it is.

Phillyfan- hear me out my man.. I’m not s big proponent of college coaches either but this guy seems like he’s ahead of the curve

I think Kelly would come here and run a run based spread attack similar to Seattle. He is an innovative guy who seems to be really smart and hard working… He is no dummie either. Only a dummie would try to run that offense he ran in Oregon in the pros. He’s going to come here feature McCoy and Brown. He will love the receivers and put together a big, fast physical defense. He couldn’t put that kind of d together at Oregon, well, due to being at Oregon. Nobody plays defense in that conf.

Now, it’s just a feeling that I have…

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 9:32 pm
Reply to  Frank22

That is one of my fears with him. No one plays defense in that conference and he thinks he can get by with an offense in the NFL.

Well we will all see what transpires over the next several weeks. I have a bad feeling that Lurie is going to screw this up unless Donohue plays a bigger role than we all think.

1977
1977
December 23, 2012 9:30 pm

# 1 draft pick better be a starting right tackle.. to hell with herremans , i want a stud for the next 10 years.. Foles got killed today, he holds the ball too long too.. (remind u of anybody)?

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 9:36 pm
Reply to  1977

It’s either Joeckel(OT) or they are going with defense.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 9:31 pm

Am I correct? Who knows but that’s my opinion.

Tom Danahue, If hired, will in turn hire Paul as director of pro personnel for his dedication to him on gcobb

phillyfan
phillyfan
December 23, 2012 9:33 pm
Reply to  Frank22

good one.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 9:32 pm

Bingo Rocko!!! Seeing the light!!!!!!!!!

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 9:33 pm

Seattle is indeed a scary ass football team.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 9:35 pm

I really think he just adapted the circumstances he was playing with… I think he will come here, like what he sees on the offensive side and stack he D!

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 9:38 pm

They sure are.. Niners even seem intimidated tnite!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 9:45 pm

But I thought Kaepernick was a superstar? I will stand by my statement that switching to Kaepernick…playing his first 1/2 season for a playoff team was a big mistake.

Should have made the move either last or next offseason…not midseason.

This will not end well for SF.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 9:55 pm

SF is fine, they ran into a buzzsaw tonight Seattle the last three weeks are kicking asses and leaving statements.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 9:48 pm

Frisco was looking to the future with this move, as well as the present. I think they needed to make the move to Kapernick. Everyone seems to struggle in Seattle. Not just the rook

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 9:57 pm

I am alwaysa fan of looking to the future….but not when you are a SB contender who was in the NFC champ game with the other guy and to an untested QB mid-season.

This should have been an offseason move….not midseason.

This has got “seeds of doubt” divided lockerroom all over it.

Rocko
Rocko
December 23, 2012 9:59 pm

Yes Frank, the light is shining bright as hell !!!!!!!! And at Biglion, they are Alabama (on the NFL team level) scary!!!!!

Rocko
Rocko
December 23, 2012 10:03 pm

We need “HIGH POWERED” everything around here. As far as I’m concerned, get rid of trent cole, Asmo, DRC and a few others that are just sitting on a paycheck. We need some young hungry cats here who just want to win and will buy into a new coaching philosophy with a new vision. Howie better get out the way of the new coach (hopefully Kelly) and let him bring in whoever the hell he wants!!!!!!!!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 10:08 pm

And so here we are Biglion

SF will be fine with Kaepernick…but you are not a fan of Foles

which is which:

102 for 166 (61%) for 1159 yrds. 6 tds. 2ints (in last 4 games)
101 for 154 (65%) for 1289 yrds 7 tds 2 ints (in last 5 games)

Honestly. How can one be a guy who “doesn’t have it” and the other a guy who can lead a SB team??

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 23, 2012 10:12 pm

Vinnie? when did this team under Reid begin to crumble?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 10:19 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

like every other coach…when the QB faded….eso nd of McNabb era…when he started fading…2008/2009…..

hasn’t been able to find a replacemett since…tried 2 guys…now onto the 3rd….hopefully Foles will be that guy…

Same thing will happen to Bellicheck when Brady disappears…

same thing for every team without a qb….you ramble about replacing dawk, or trotter or whomever….but the reality is those are all peripheral positions….we haven;t had a competent qb since 2008…..and until we do all the rest is claptrap….hopefully we now have one….

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 23, 2012 10:19 pm

Vinnie who is better? Wilson with the seahawks or Foles?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 10:20 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

I don’t know yet.

How do you think Wilson would be doing on the Eagles…or Foles on the Hawks……

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 10:35 pm

but what I do know is that guys like you would have run him to the bench after his first 4 games

especially after his 4th game which went
17 of 25 for 160 0tds and 3 ints….

you probably would have been screaming about how he’s a bum

would you have given him a chance?

and if the answer is yes…then why not the same chance for Foles?

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 10:22 pm

The niners are going to win the NFC west and Kaepernick’s abilities fit better with what the niners do and yes i think he has it.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 10:27 pm

Kam chancellor is a beast

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 10:45 pm

Man do I like russel Wilson and this Seahawks team. If I could have one team that the eagles would look too for structure is this team. They are physical, smart, poised and hustlers. Kam chancelor has knocked Vernon Davis and Mario manning ham out of the game single handedly.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 10:47 pm

How do teams return the ball to the 30 yard line? W haven’t seen that in 6 years, easily!

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
December 23, 2012 10:49 pm

When Vick goes to a different team I wonder if his fans will follow him?

You cannot be a true Eagles fan and want Michael Vick to be the starting quarterback. Vick is the worse starting quarterback the Eagles have had since Doug Pederson. I can’t wait till he is out of town along with Reid. If Nick Foles don’t start winning I will hate him too. I’m an loyal Eagles fan and I want the team to win – I don’t care if the quarterback is red white yellow or black as long as he wins games.