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Eagles Fans Shouldn’t Boo Andy Reid Today

I don’t think Eagles fans should boo Andy Reid today.  Yes, this has been a bad year and the Birds should let him go, but Reid has had a great run with the Eagles.

If the fans go after Andy today, it’s going to add yet another chapter in the stereotyping of Philadelphia sports fans. If the fans do something in poor taste, it will be on ESPN all week long.

Class should be the word of the day.  Let Reid go out with some cheers.  The fans shouldn’t lower themselves to go after Reid with boos.

I would love to know what you think.

As for the game, I don’t expect the Eagles to win the game, but I do expect them to make it close.  I think the Eagels pass defense will do a much better job than they did earlier in the year.  They can’t do any worse.

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vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 12:12 pm

Agreed. Reid/Lurie brought this franchise out of a 10 year cycle of doldrums.

Frankly I should have been more upset by this…back in the early 1990s all it took was a call to the Eagles’ ticket offices for tix to any game…now they sell out in 15 seconds…so for a guy like me it is much more difficult (fine just more expensive) to get to a game……but still….the overall record of the Reid years was positive.

From the correct QB choice in 1999 (remember there was a lot of talk the Birds were “high” on Akili Smith. To that first playoff win in a decade at the Vet against TB in 2000- now that was a good game to be at!)…to the division clinching win vs the NYG (again at the Vet) when the Giants ran that hook and ladder down to the Eagles 4 or 5 yrd line….to the devastation of the TB NFC champ game…to the joy of the Atl NFC champ game…to the heartbreak of the SB.

Please remember that in 1998 the Eagles were a complete joke. No seriously. A national Joke.

The entire narrative was about rats in the basement, courthouses, turf that destroyed players career, free agents avoiding the team like the plague.

The Vet may have had some “charm”, but I fofr one won’t reallymiss pissing in janitor’c closets or into one of the 5000 urine filled beer cups that littered every corner because it took a 1/2 hour to gt into the bathroom.

Under the last 14 years of Llurie/Reid the Birds situation has improved exponentially.

Eagles became relevant. A destination. The narrative changed from being a joke to beind a perrenial contender. Prime time games. Positive exposure. The fanbase now one of the best “travelling” bases in the NFL…..

That things have gone sour was bound to happen (as it will for Bellicheck soon). Its unfortunate that the goal of winning the SB never happened….but I can still appreciate the stability/respectability that Reid brought to the Eagles.

And for all Reids foibleds (and there are many – I recognize that) I’d give Reid a tip of the hat today, because I do recognize his strengths still outweighed his weaknesses (at least until about 2009).

And lets hope the next guy will be able to build upon what was started in 1999.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 1:14 pm

Completely agreed

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 1:16 pm

BTW – who says they don’t like this Foles kid?

Moves well in pocket (but never frenetic or out of control) 2x for completions.

Moves McCoy to left, defence adjusts, then sneaks right.

Draws Wsh offsides with cadence.

Nice touch on throw to Maclin.

daggolden
daggolden
December 23, 2012 1:49 pm

Way to read a defense, way to fumble nice audible. lol

larrwd
larrwd
December 23, 2012 2:03 pm

Thats the bad with throwing soft pillows when it gets tipped its like a punt.. thats why vick started throwing harder to limit interception.. Foles has to throw harder

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 2:08 pm

He should have thrown the ball away to save the FG and not get hit from behind. That was a mistake.

The pick….he had Avant breaking open….so that tip was unfortunate.

Why are you bringing reading defenses into it? Both turnovers have been on execution, not pre-snap reads. You’ve seen the guy audible into new plays about 5x at least today.

The fumble is easily correctible with experience (well, for most except one guy). So I am not altogether too concerned about that.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 2:09 pm

man what’s up with the 6’5 QB getting passes deflected? When this oline looks bad they really look bad.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 2:09 pm

BTW – the Eagles are going to win this game.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 2:12 pm

If our defense could tackle they wouldn’t be half bad.

larrwd
larrwd
December 23, 2012 2:13 pm

same thing I said ..Thats the whole reason Foles is in there

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 2:13 pm

And if you can’t see this kid slowly evolving into an NFL QB before your eyes, then you should head to an optometrist.

daggolden
daggolden
December 23, 2012 2:14 pm

Foles is doing ok. I mean the 29th ranked defense in the NFL the Redskins will give up points. But he should have some success like he did vs the 30th ranked Bucs

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 2:15 pm

Thanks Moore…back to the bench with you.

daggolden
daggolden
December 23, 2012 2:15 pm

Nothing over 8 yards and hes ok.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 2:19 pm

Fuck daggolden…you’re so funny. Now its, “the Redskins suck”

And I’m the Hater.

You, for whatever reason, hate the fact that Foles is playing decently.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 2:20 pm

I don’t know Vinnie, I still don’t like him nothing consistently down the field for all his awareness he really doesn’t make things happen.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 2:26 pm

Brian Billick said something that I thought noteworthy- foles coming out of college was known not to panic and really was able to orchestrate an offense. Personally I think that a hect of a compliment. He’s a rook being able to do that and he has the arm to be a good pro.

daggolden
daggolden
December 23, 2012 2:27 pm

Your right Vinnie he may get FED-EX player of the week. Hes the best player on the field.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 2:28 pm

In his 5th start he just went 8 of 11 for 70 yards (overcoming 2 offensive penalties) in a 2 minute drill for 3 points.

So I know….not a lot to like.

daggolden
daggolden
December 23, 2012 2:31 pm

@ Vinnie. Redskins dont suck thier FRANCHISE MVP QB has carried thier team. Thier defense sucks. Its ranked 29th. look it up.lol

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 3:21 pm
Reply to  daggolden

So QBs overcome shitty teams? Hmmm…that’s weird….because that’s not what you said when it comes to Vick and the Birds….

Look you clowns…Foles is playing anice game. a big error on the funlbe…was a 6 pt swing….no arguements there….but otherwise he’s solid.

And yes, that’s all I give a shit about right now. The fact that the Eagles’ D and special teams are lying down right now is annoying…but a 2 year fix.

I am happy to see that it looks like we have a QB moving forward through next season.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 3:00 pm

Yep and his 2 turnovers have them behind. so yes a lot not to like.

larrwd
larrwd
December 23, 2012 3:21 pm

Im thinking Geno Smith .. Ive never seen such a big quarterback go down so easy.. If the cheifs can beat the colts were back in the Geno Smith sweepstakes..WHich can happen cause luck STINKS

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 3:22 pm
Reply to  larrwd

wtf are you watching?

Hater.

larrwd
larrwd
December 23, 2012 3:24 pm

Im watching the 27 to 13 against a shitty defense

jakedog
jakedog
December 23, 2012 3:28 pm

Did you just here billick say that ball was tipped that led to an interception, so much agenda in the nfl, these announcers so damn biased that was a bad pass, reall bad, they dumb down this play book for rg3, he’s not that good, he will not last, too small, not strong enough

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 3:40 pm

Larrwd. Give it up.

Or at least just admit the real reason you hate Foles. You love you some Vick.

You HATE that he’s…..wait for it….wait….NOT EVEN DRESSED.

And what really gets you is that Foles is better than Vick….RIGHT NOW.

Go back to your bunkbed…give it a little cry…and you should be good in the am.

larrwd
larrwd
December 23, 2012 3:41 pm

Are you crazy…. I dont want a game manager.. Thats why..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 3:44 pm

Did yo just see that play. With 3:20 to go? Waiting…waiting…completely aware of the LOS. Stopping right at it and hitting Maclin.

QB.

And you hate it.

Frank22
Frank22
December 23, 2012 3:45 pm

He’s a rookie. Most are game managers for the first year or two.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 3:50 pm

Strange also how…with Foles….Eagles seem to always now have their timeouts available at the end of every half…..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 3:57 pm

that is a bullshit call

jott1972
jott1972
December 23, 2012 4:00 pm

Nick Foles lacks the arm and intelligence to be a franchise QB

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 23, 2012 4:01 pm

Did you see that garbage ass duck Foles threw with Maclin Wide open?

The Eagles need to talk to Vick and have him renegotiate to lead this team next year. Foles is a damn loser.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 4:08 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

y I saw that…and I also saw him throw a perfect td pass with the next throw….but of course you didnt see that.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 4:15 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Off you go to cheer on the Redskins.

eaglesinoak
eaglesinoak
December 23, 2012 4:01 pm

if only they had a qb with a stronger arm…or someone who could have run a qb draw on those final few plays..shame shame FOLES 1-5.

larrwd
larrwd
December 23, 2012 4:02 pm

Foles lacked arm strength again on the throw to maclin.. Like what I saw besides the noodle arm

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 4:10 pm
Reply to  larrwd

lol.
if you thought that was about arm strenth you are just…what’s the word…..dumb

jakedog
jakedog
December 23, 2012 4:05 pm

That was a tough throw under pressure and in the wind in the in the end we can see the eagles finally have a quarterback, its apparent, give him a year with the first team, now rid the entire secondary, especially that bum assomaugh , and songs, if the tight end makes an easy catch it’s overtime, lots to like Bout foles except his color

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 4:07 pm

Arm strength terrible, has got to throw that ball out of the endzone at the end to save that play.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 4:12 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

FUthat was a completely BS grounding call…rule states that a QB hit while throwing…grounding is off the table…..its called that way 999 out of 1000….i don;t get what happened there…..super late flag….for no reason…

what can i say….guess the league wants their newest player de jour into the playoffs….

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 4:16 pm

Your wrong Vinnie it’s not off the table the ball has to get pass the line of scrimmage.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 4:10 pm

Bottom line another loss, don’t want to hear anything about silver linings. You don’t play in the NFL for draft position, your QB of the future has to tie that game up at the end

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 4:13 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

what happened on the 2nd last play again?

jakedog
jakedog
December 23, 2012 4:11 pm

Arm strength above average, strong, he’s not setting, not able to set his feet on some of the big throws, the qb is set, find a secondary, ship that bum assomaugh and drc to Canada bums

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 4:14 pm

Okay so we blame the TE who has been here three days for not catching a pass but don’t blame the QB Vinnie? That pass shouldn’t have been needed if the throw to Maclin was completed. In the NFL the QB has to make that throw no excuses!!!!

jakedog
jakedog
December 23, 2012 4:14 pm

Like McFraud tied it up at the end all those years, nick foles has shown more clutch, presence than any quarterback in eagles modern history, he needs to get better, no doubt, he needs to set his feet and stp into the big throws, maybe can’t because of pressure but he’s a winner, let’s talk about improving other aspects of this team, build around the franchise quarter back nick foles

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 4:15 pm

I cannot believe the damn Redskins are going to win the division.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 23, 2012 4:15 pm

Jake..if?….IF?

Here’s a IF for ya.

If the eagles would have scored more points than the opponenet every game, we’d be undefeated.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 4:20 pm

You guys are strange.

Here’s a kid providing more exciting moments than we’ve seen in 2 years. Competent. Clearly intelligent. Making some rookie mistakes of course. COming back from a bad throw and hitting a te right on the numbers for the TD…..

and you hate it

why?

Why do you hate a guy who is playing really fucking well as a rookie?

Why?

And don;t give me this completely bullshit “arm strength” arguement.

You hate Foles.

He has set the Eagles record for rookie QBs.

He’s better than the guy he replaced.

He is clutch at the end of halves.

He threw the perfect strike that was dropped…. then hosed on a pathetic call.

You hate

You think he sucks.

Why?

jakedog
jakedog
December 23, 2012 4:21 pm

No if songs he should have made that throw, but he made plenty of others, 36 for 48 for 345 yards , impressive

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
December 23, 2012 4:22 pm

You guys are so petty it is ridiculous. Do you really think that Foles was the sole reason why they didn’t win that game? It wasn’t the run defense in the second half or Santana Moss running by Anderson. I guess McNabb had no arm strength because of how many gopher balls he threw?

All of the Vick backers are now doing the same thing that you were complaining about that everyone else was doing. You are blaming a loss solely on the QB.

I agree that you probably can’t go forward with Foles, but he had a good game today no matter what you say.

jakedog
jakedog
December 23, 2012 4:23 pm

They don’t like foles because he’s white, it’snot that hard to figure out

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 23, 2012 4:24 pm

Jake? Did Foles hold the ball too long that last pass? I thought only Vick holds the ball too long.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 4:29 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

he did not. The ball hit the ground with 2 seconds left. Clearly not too long. Then, because the NFL needs to get their new marketing toy intot he playoffs, 15 secs after the play happens, an completely BS flag hits the ground.

But since you are an admitted RGIII fan and have announced here that you are rooting for the Redskins….you were happy about the result.

Good for you.

jakedog
jakedog
December 23, 2012 4:25 pm

If foles were black you would heard billick slurping all over him like they did for eg3w

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 4:27 pm
Reply to  jakedog

its true. Its the only explanation for these guys.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 4:35 pm

So let me get this straight if you don’t like Foles it’s because he’s white. But if you don’t like Vick it’s because he’s a bad QB. Hmmm interesting thought process @Jake and Vinnie.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 4:38 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

because Vick is a bad QB. He’s had 10 years to do something.

He won 2 playoff games in those 10 years and threw for a total of 199 yrds (combined) in those 2 wins.

Enough with Vick…he;s finished. Get the fuck off his Jock.

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 23, 2012 4:43 pm

As soon as you get off Foles jock Vinnie. See we can play this game all night. What has Foles done other then be white that makes him better then Vick. See I can say stupid shit just like Jake.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 4:49 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

better comp %
better yards
better points
lower int %
lower sack rate

is that enough for you?

eaglesinoak
eaglesinoak
December 23, 2012 5:57 pm

how about better at winning? FOLES 1-5 PATHETIC

jakedog
jakedog
December 23, 2012 4:29 pm

Foles trouble setting his feet on the longer throws, its not an arm strength issue, he held on to the ball too long that throw, he should have thrown it away, he makes mistakes, veterans do as well, but he’s the best prospectat quarterback in the eagles modern history, if given the chance he will make you forget about that fraud McNabb

daggolden
daggolden
December 23, 2012 4:29 pm

@ Vinnie you wanna know why people have dislike for Foles its because you dont let it play out. You say ridiculous things like hes better than other QBs when hes played 6 games and won 1. Hes better than no one but John Skelton right now. Can he become better? Maybe. But the he reads defenses, better he studies harder, he ends halves etc etc etc. Thats what pissess people off.To compare him to McNabb, Vick, or any other veteran QB is just stupid. Can he be better, yes there is always that chance. Thats what upsets some fans.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 23, 2012 4:40 pm
Reply to  daggolden

I donl;t let it play out????

Post after post above about how Foles is a piece of shit and I am the one who isn’t letting it play out?

This is the stupidest thing I’ve read since 1974.