• December 8, 2022

Notes From The Phillies’ 9-8 Loss To Kansas City

disappointingThe Philadelphia Phillies lost the final game of their series with Kansas City on Sunday afternoon, falling to the Royals 9-8 in Philadelphia.

  • For the second time in three games, the Phillies blew an early four-run lead. The team jumped on Royals’ starter James Shields earlier, putting up four runs in the first inning. Kansas City came back to score nine unanswered runs, and although the Phillies were able to knock in four runs in the bottom of the ninth, there just wasn’t enough magic for another come from behind victory.
  • Cole Hamels turned in another disappointing outing, lasting just 5.2 innings and allowing eight runs. Hamels allowed two runs in the third inning, and then gave up a grand slam to Billy Butler in the fifth. He have up two more runs in the sixth inning before being lifted for Chad Durbin.
  • Durbin gave up two inherited runs in relief of Hamels, but didn’t allow an earned run to his line, going 1.1 scoreless innings.
  • Jeremy Horst allowed a run in the eighth inning that proved to be the difference in the game. The bullpen has got to stop allowing teams to chip away and tack on runs like that.
  • At the plate, Jimmy Rollins had a strong day, going 2-5 and driving in a three runs.
  • Ben Revere broke out of his funk, and had himself a three-hit ballgame.
  • Chase Utley went 2-5 and knocked in a run. Utley is now hitting .391 with seven RBI’s in the first six games of the year.
  • Michael Young went 4-5 with a double, and drove in a run.
  • Domonic Brown singled home a run in the first inning.
  • Ezquiel Carrera made his first start of the season, and didn’t do much to impress. Carrera went 0-3 with a walk at the plate, and looked shaky in the outfield.

Final Thoughts

Cole Hamels can’t continue to pitch at this level.

I don’t want to hear that he and Erik Kratz are having issues with the gameplan. You’re a top of the line pitcher, make good pitches and carry your team to victory. You don’t hear Cliff Lee complaining about his relationship with Kratz.

One bad start every now and then is no big deal for an ace. But its unacceptable to string together multiple poor outings. As the ace, the entire ballclub leans on you to come out every fifth day, and give them a great chance to win. Today, the Phillies had a chance to win a series, and build some momentum for the week coming up. After already witnessing one four-run lead slip away on Friday, they really wanted to avoid losing another game in such an ugly fashion.

Now instead of finishing the weekend with a two-game winning streak, a .500 overall  record, and momentum, the Phillies are off to a 2-4 start, and will be forced to turn the ball over to a struggling Roy Halladay on Monday.

It’s too early to have any kind of concern over Hamels, but he’s not doing his job right now, and he’s cost the team two victories in just the first week of the season alone.

Denny Basens

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paulman
paulman
April 7, 2013 10:31 pm

This Pitching Staff is not good enough for the Playoffs,
They wasted too many Pitches, don’t hear down when runners are in Scoring Position and fall behind say too many Batters this first week of the Ssason
Their Offense is improved over last years, but their Potching as a while and their Team Defense is shaky at best.. Bottom Line, this 2013 Team is a .500 Club give or take and unless their Starters and in particular their Big 3 collectively get their acts together, I see it very difficult to get on e tended hot streaks of winning 8 of of 10 games or put sustained winning streaks together
See lots if up and down weeks of going 3-4 or 4-3 Orr win a Series, lose a series, etc, etc..

DMAN
DMAN
April 7, 2013 11:27 pm

The season just started, and people are already writing off the phils. Too soon for all of this talk..

DCar
DCar
April 8, 2013 4:56 am
Reply to  DMAN

No it’s not! They have ZERO chance, of making the playoffs!

DCar
DCar
April 8, 2013 5:03 am

Durbin needs to be cut 2morrow! Why the f^#@, did they resign this stiff, when we have good young arms, in DeFratus, Aumont, & Stutes? Total waste of $$$$ & a roster spot! Our OF, as I’ve stated all off season, is an embarrassment! Howard & his albatross, unwarranted contract! 3/5 of the starting rotation, is a mess! Hamels getting shelled! My God, what a disaster!!!!

DCar
DCar
April 8, 2013 5:10 am

Only pleasant surprises, are Utley & Young! Everything else, is as I said it would be! 2 miserable off-seasons, for Booben, on top of taking a WS Champ, & taking it, in a yearly regression, all the while, having an open check book. Anywhere else in the free world, would have been fired years ago!

DonP
DonP
April 8, 2013 7:22 am

Amaro should get fired along with Charlie, Hamels doesnt deserve to be called their ace the way hes pitching you can see he s back to his old ways with head issues i think he has problems with the way Kratz calling game he shakes too many pitches off. Also stop the experiments in the outfield already this clown they stuck in right field send him back where he came from, amaro bringing in all his cronies who cant play at all. They let guys go and then bring them back when they on decline like Durbin get people in here that get guys out wehave noone that pitches consistantly in mid 90s other teams have multiple guys. This team is shot going nowhere soon and gonna waste utley and lee best season probable.Painful to watch this defenseless, anemic, unprofessional charade of baseball the 80 phils would have wiped their ass with this team!!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
April 8, 2013 8:42 am

S.O.S.
save our season, panic time-
losing 2 back to back series–
Last afternoon’s game was entertaining, no doubt if the Royals left in their closer the Phils would have tied that game yesterday.

mhenski
mhenski
April 8, 2013 10:00 am

some Phils fans are going through a MAJOR MELTDOWN after 6 games haaaaaaaaaaa.

fire reuben
fire charlie
cole isnt an ace

haaaaaaaaaaaaa

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 8, 2013 10:24 am
Reply to  mhenski

some like it that way— the doom and gloom folks.
hey i’m not happy– not one bit, especially with hamels but there have been some nice signs: revere is going to be a good young fixture, utley looks really good, young is a professional hitter and they have shown some life late in games which wasn’t the case last year- thats not pom pom waving or anything because as i said, i’m not happy but there is a long way to go– howard always stinks in april and cole will get back to himself.

mhenski
mhenski
April 8, 2013 11:43 am
Reply to  haveacigar

im happy spring is in session beers, babes & baseball in full swing. ill form my opinion on the phils when they are 40+games in. cole will be fine the guy is a stud, just not sure of literally everything else

DCar
DCar
April 8, 2013 12:24 pm

My angst, vitriol, & hopeless attitude, has been present for 2+ years now, & hasn’t changed! So as for it being only 6 games in, is meaningless! I want them to win, & not lose, & I don’t jump on & off the bandwagon, like some do, nor do I blindly follow, ANY TEAM, without criticism! They are, what they are, until Booben is gone! PERIOD! This is a horribly, flawed, constructed team, with ZERO DIRECTION! We are old, overpaid, devoid of power, lack baseball acumen & discipline, & do not have any talented position youth, ready to play. Our OF & Pitching staff, are a nightmare, & our IF, are ready for their Social Security. We are sporadically hitting, but still strike out too much, strand a ton of base runners, & are extremely undisciplined, at the plate. Our pitching, has been pitching batting practice. We have 1 quality start (Lee), our top 2 aces, have been beer leaguers, & our 4-5, are terrible! You can call it doom & gloom, I call it reality!

DCar
DCar
April 8, 2013 12:35 pm

This team needed to either go ALL IN, AT ALL COSTS, for 1 final run, or IMHO, needed to be blown up, in the off-season, not constructed like a house of cards, held together by gum, & wet cards! If we had a proactive, competent, GM, who was able to evaluate talent, we wouldn’t be having these issues!

mhenski
mhenski
April 8, 2013 1:05 pm
Reply to  DCar

imo the team couldnt be blow up. ur not not resigning cole, ur not moving lee, howard is unmoveable, utley deal expires after this year i think, doc deal expires after this year, your outfield has pretty much been blown up, you cant move paps. reuben went all in many of times and it didnt work, now we let deals fall of the books and retool when we free up some money simple as that. phils are weathering the storm. doc will be gone and probably utley too, hopefully they can get paps off the books at some point too. if phils are out of it at the allstar break dont be surprised to see the phils sell 1 or both of the youngs, utley, someone may buy paps but we wouldnt get a return and doc if he levels out could get us something too.

hopefully we wont be sellers but if we are we could pick up some nice pieces, imo this year if unsuccessful was the final year of the run and the real youth movement begins next year. the writing is on the wall imo

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 8, 2013 1:44 pm
Reply to  mhenski

agreed– they did go all in, it hasn’t brought them a pennant and thats what happens in the real world. Halladay has an option year that will kick in if he gets a certain number of innings this year. Some on here believe they should have blown the team up after 2010– pretty tough to have done that i’d say– the guys that gave you that very good but unfullfilled year were all signed– then the injuries and admittedly some bad fillins last year– i thought maybe they would have gone all in with a bad contract to hamilton- but in the end probably glad they didn’t.

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 8, 2013 1:49 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

i meant 2011– sorry.

DCar
DCar
April 8, 2013 2:11 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

They DID NOT, go all in, the last 2 off-seasons, & yes they could have blown it up, the last 2 off-seasons, if they had a proactive, competent, GM, who was able to evaluate talent! He did nothing but add band-aids! Yeah, weathering the storm, while WASTING an entire season, really has me pumped! But considering the 2 sources above, winning comes secondary, to just enjoying the team, nonchalantly excepting failure, & waving the delusional pom-poms! I don’t except having the wool pulled over my eyes, & having this organization insult my intelligence, by saying this team is good, & can win! You may be happy with it, I’m not, & I know any fan, that lives in reality, does also! That’s the real world, not La-La land!

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 8, 2013 2:17 pm
Reply to  DCar

blow the team up after 11? really how? and why? I know I know I know they didn’t win it all that year but really? blow it up? some of the players that are younger that they counted on haven’t performed but were they wrong to expect them to progress? mayberry hit .274 and 15 HR in 270 ABs, he was a natural replacement for ibanez– that projects out to 270 with 25 hr/s and pretty good D– Pence we all thought was a solid pick up. We know the utley situation last year– somehow dumping polly would have been good- and yes there was a major swing and miss in the BP last year–
but blow it up before 12– insane, complaining, whining non-sense

DCar
DCar
April 8, 2013 2:37 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

RAH RAH, SISS BOOM BAH!!!! I’m not getting into all of the intricate details, & transactions again, because talking to you, is like talking to a brainwashed, zombie! The horse has been dead for a while now!
“Don’t stop, believing, hold to that feeling….
street lights, people, ooooooh hooooo!” GTFO! Make all the excuses & delusions you want. You’re nuts & wrong. Go away!!!

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 8, 2013 2:57 pm
Reply to  DCar

If you put half as much energy into giving a response as the cap locked off the deal end stuff…
Like I said blowing up the team after 11 was imbecilic … They had an OF of Mayberry, pence and victorino… 1b was a disaster and there wasn’t a whole lot you could do…utley lied…
There are no excuses the players did not get it done, they couted heavily on Mayberry and pence…and they weren’t as advertised.

DCar
DCar
April 9, 2013 3:39 am
Reply to  DCar

I’ve given you many, educated, factual responses in the past, many times, on the Phils situation, & you’ve done nothing but give me delusional, blind loyal responses. You’ve also called into question my fanhood, have called me a bandwagon fan, etc, etc, because I can criticize, & treat things by using my brain & not my heart. You argued with me tooth & nail, about Booben & his transactions, & were wrong about everything, & still are about some things, but have seemed to finally come around, & agree with the things, that I’ve bitched about, since last off-season, in which, at that time, you blasted me! You can’t have it both ways brother! You are a stepford apologist, & blindly loyal fan, that refuses to honestly criticize this team for some reason. I criticize everything & everyone, equally, honestly, factually, without prejudice, whenever warranted, or needed. You rip every other team & FO, but this one, & it’s nauseating! Just because I criticize, doesn’t make me less than a fan than you. I’m just more honest about situations, & don’t except BS & retoric from FO’s, that insult my intelligence. I know Baseball & I know business, & nowhere else in the free world, would anyone except the failure of this GM. Booben needs to be fired!

DCar
DCar
April 9, 2013 3:53 am
Reply to  DCar

**rhetoric**

paulman
paulman
April 8, 2013 1:18 pm

I believe Doc has one more Season on his Deal, but maybe there is an Option Buy Out after This Season based on Innings, Overall Performance,etc,etc
(I believe this is his 3rd Season in, on a 4 Year Deal)

CF Revere looks good and reminds me a little bit of a young Milt Thompson who was a good all-around player for the Phils..

DCar
DCar
April 8, 2013 2:23 pm
Reply to  paulman

He’s nothing like Thompson! Thompson was a very good hitter, with power, & hit alot of doubles! Not even a comparison! Doc, has a vesting option if he pitches 225 innings this year, or a combined 415 innings, for 2012-2013, & he can’t be on the DL at seasons end. He will meet none of those requirements! He pitched 156 innings last year, so he’d have to pitch 259 innings this year, & THAT AIN’T HAPPENING!

paulman
paulman
April 8, 2013 4:01 pm
Reply to  DCar

Thompson was a slap hitter also early in his career than put on 10-15lbs as he matured, worked-out, Revere could be a gapper once he fully matures..

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 8, 2013 4:14 pm
Reply to  paulman

You are right Paul, went on BB reference, very similar numbers except revere is much younger Thompson didn’t get 500 ABs till he was 27 or 28. Revere has a 342 slugging percentage to Thompsons 372… And milt had many years At 340 or lower..

paulman
paulman
April 8, 2013 6:00 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Yes, HAC ..Milt Thompson was a late bloomer.. I think Revere will end up with very similar #’s, production wise. as he continues to develop and gets a little stronger.. I like the kid, I like how he goes about playing the game and battles each at bat, plays the field well.. I am not saying he will ever be an All-Star, but I believe he can be a very good Player, a great table setter, CF for the next 6-8-10 Years

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 8, 2013 6:25 pm
Reply to  paulman

More of a Pierre but I think he will be 300 and score 110 …and he is young.

DCar
DCar
April 9, 2013 3:47 am
Reply to  haveacigar

I like his speed, moxy & defensive ability, but he’s never going to be a gap hitter, nor does he have the patience to take BB’s. He also has a horrid arm. We’ll see, hopefully as he ages, he get more MLB savy, but right now, he’s nothing more than a mediocre slap hitter. He’s a very nice kid, my youngest daughter got his autograph Friday, & he was very cordial, with a huge smile. I’m rooting for him, because he’s only 1 of a very few, that’s young & talented, in this organization.

paulman
paulman
April 8, 2013 1:32 pm

I read a report that Dave Herndon, JC Romero & Chan Ho Park were doing some Private Workouts at the Carpenter Complex in Clearwater,Fl
Details at 11pm

jakedog
jakedog
April 8, 2013 4:04 pm

classic Dcar, polish cheer song and journey all in one post, lmfao