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Vick Wants A Starter Named Before Camp

MichaelVick6Geoff Mosher of CSNPhilly.com wrote an article on Thursday night about Michael Vick’s thoughts on the Eagles quarterback competition. Vick wants a starter to be named before training camp begins.

“Hopefully, Chip makes a decision before training camp and we won’t have to answer that question,” Vick told CSNPhilly.com, “so we can go out there as quarterbacks and just focus on this season and not answer questions about competition every day.”

Per Mosher: “A few moments later, Vick was approached again to make sure he understood that his comments were on the record. He responded by asking the reporter to print his request that Kelly settle on a starter before camp.”

Here’s the thing, Michael. Quarterback competitions aren’t decided in May. They aren’t decided in shorts. They’re decided during training camp and the preseason, not before. Can anyone recall the last time a team with a quarterback controversy settled on a starter before the second or third preseason game?

And by the way, who is Michael Vick to be making demands that Chip Kelly commit to a starter before training camp?

Vick was very fortunate that Kelly went out on a limb and stuck his neck out by bringing him back after the way he’s played in the last two seasons. Before the team’s surprising decision to bring Vick back, it was widely assumed around the league that he had taken his last snap in midnight green. But Kelly stuck his neck out to give Vick another chance, and now Vick rewards him by complaining to the media about the quarterback competition before camp even begins?

Ungrateful much? How about showing a little class and respect for the way that the new head coach (who not only did Vick a favor by bringing him back, but also defended him by shifting blame to the offensive line in a news conference several months ago) wants to set his depth chart? It’s understandable that a veteran like Vick wouldn’t like the fact that he’s got to prove himself over a couple young unknown mid-round draft picks, but given the situation that he supposedly knowingly signed on for, there’s no justifiable reason for him to be making demands that a starter be named before camp.

According to Kelly and Howie Roseman back in February, Vick understood that this was to be an open competition and that his starting position wasn’t guaranteed. Clearly he never understood that, or at the very least didn’t believe it. Now that OTA’s have begun and reality has set in that he is in fact going to have to beat out the other quarterbacks on the roster, Vick suddenly is bothered by it?

Why can’t this guy just shut up and play football? Vick doesn’t do himself any favors anytime he opens his mouth. He creates stories like this and makes himself look more ridiculous every time. Whether it’s declaring the Eagles a dynasty in the making, declaring that Chip Kelly has solved his fumbling problem in under 10 minutes, or demanding that the team name a starter before training camp, Vick just continues to bring a lot of negativity on himself.

I don’t understand why Vick is allowing himself to become so upset with the quarterback competition and distracted by media questions. Chip Kelly wants Michael Vick to be his quarterback. Kelly is in love with his physical ability, and he still believes that Vick has something to offer this team. That’s why he made the unpopular move to bring him back, and that’s why the organization is still paying him a considerable amount of money.

This is Vick’s job to lose, and even though he’s the most physically talented of any of the quarterbacks on the roster, his attitude isn’t doing anything to help his cause. That’s not to say that it could negatively impact his chances of winning the job, but you can bet that Chip Kelly and his staff want to see much more professionalism and true leadership from their potential starting quarterback than this.

All that Vick needs to (and should) say right now is something along the lines of “Each of us wants to be the starter, we understand its a competition, and all I’m going to do is put out my best everyday to win the job and help this football team win games whether I’m the starter or not.”

It’s that simple. If he says something like that, then there is no story. The team goes about their business, and maybe the writers become impressed with the way Vick carries himself through the competition.

But instead, Vick chose to go controversial. Not only did the veteran tell reporters that he wanted a starter named, but he went out of his way to tell them to print his request. He went out and attempted to undermine what the coaches are trying to accomplish by calling for them to make a decision before camp. That’s not what a leader does. That’s what a guy who is insecure and unhappy with his position on the team does. He’s not focused on the team and helping them win right now. He’s worried about himself. A guy with as much pride as Vick isn’t going to take it well if he loses his job to either Nick Foles or Matt Barkley. He’s been thinking about it everyday since OTA’s begun, and it’s going to continue to distract him until the competition ends.

Denny Basens is the editor of GCobb.com. Email him at dbasens@ycp.edu

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Stevo
Stevo
June 6, 2013 9:58 pm

This is all i needed to see. Too much talkin. Here is your clipboard mike.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 6, 2013 10:45 pm
Reply to  Stevo

The comment was about as controversial as saying the sky is blue.

Once again anything Mike Vick says because a hell of a lot bigger than what it is.

*shrug*

mhenski
mhenski
June 6, 2013 10:02 pm

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus at this point i really hope realtalk was right and dixon wins this competition. im on mike vick overload, all this talk about an absolute bust and a poor qb

jakedog
jakedog
June 6, 2013 10:07 pm

Vick is dumber than imaginable

mhenski
mhenski
June 6, 2013 10:20 pm
Reply to  jakedog

“I have two secret weapons — my legs, my arms and my brain.”

— Michael Vick

DCar
DCar
June 7, 2013 2:31 am
Reply to  mhenski

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRILLIANT!!!!!!

armyprince
armyprince
June 6, 2013 10:22 pm

Denny tell us how you really feel lol. But lets be real you never cared for Vick that much anyway. But one thing I agree with is just because a microphone or a reporter is in your face means you have to answer. I know we want players to be real. But Vick has to know this city,media and fans thoughts about him”SHORT LEASH”. Just go out let your game and skills talk for you. I can’t wait for camp. My money is on Vick to win because of his ability to improvise and work behind a faulty line and better play calling. But Foles and a Buffalo Bills 90s type offense intrigues me. He had poise behind the line last year. Gonna be a interesting summer.

mhenski
mhenski
June 6, 2013 10:28 pm
Reply to  armyprince

i dont know if denny cared for vick or not. but in my opinion deep down if any sports reporter anywhere in the world thinks vick is a good qb they should be fired on the spot

Gotta Luv It
Gotta Luv It
June 6, 2013 10:26 pm

G must have sent out mass text…
Hurry up everyone write an article about
Mike Vick and the QB comp..lol

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 6, 2013 10:36 pm

Oh Jeez.

Oooohh…QB wants starter named before camp. BIG controversy.

rolls eyes.

DCar
DCar
June 7, 2013 2:35 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

ts, keep waving those pom-poms girl, maybe someday your hero will win something, or finally correct his flaws. NOT! He’s an arrogant, self absorbed, loser, that he’s always been. For trying to dictate, what Kelly wants to do, should get him cut alone. Keep spewing your verbal diarrhea Mickey, the grave your digging, is almost at the 6 foot depth!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 6, 2013 11:04 pm

I think MV might want to hold off on his requests for Kelly to name a starter right now.

What we know – so far in 7 on 7 and 11 on 11 drills this week:

Foles has been 64 of 80 (80%) with several tds and reportedly no ints

Vick has been 37 of 65 (57%)with no tds, several ints, at least one fumble and has hit the stationary nets things at least 2x

And today Kelly yelled at Vick for not holding the ball securely during a scramble (I thought that had been solved)

So, Mike might want to cool it on the demands, because I don’t think he’d like the decision right now.

Then again, he runs really really fast and that’s all that matters.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 6, 2013 11:16 pm

LOL.

And once again your numbers are all kinds of wrong. Boy do you inflate things…

“several INTs”
“Kelly yelled at Vick”
“no tds”

At least if you’re gonna complain about a guy get your facts straight – there’s no need to inflate things (or make them up) to make a point.

mhenski
mhenski
June 6, 2013 11:21 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

why are you ts? you dont comment on phillies news, dont comment on sixers news, dont comment on flyers news and dont comment on eagles news. you only comment on vick news. oh i guess i just answered my own question

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 6, 2013 11:24 pm
Reply to  mhenski

– I don’t watch baseball
– I’m a hardcore Lakers fan
– I don’t watch Hockey

Actually I comment on EAGLES News – even on Non-Vick posts. As a matter of fact I’ve commented on non-vick posts – not mention Vick and you and Vinne somehow find a way to turn the convo around to Vick.

lol

109876ers
109876ers
June 6, 2013 11:26 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

hardcore lakers fan?

riiight

front runner.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 6, 2013 11:30 pm
Reply to  109876ers

Been a Lakers fan since I was a little girl and Paula Abdul was on the squad.

I wanted to be a Lakers Girl.
No front runner here.

I’m a Lakers fan – good or bad. Johnson to Kobe. It’s all about that purple and gold (and green and orange I went to The U)

109876ers
109876ers
June 6, 2013 11:31 pm
Reply to  109876ers

i bet you’ll forget all about the lakers when kobe sits out the year and howard walks to houston or dallas…a year from now you’ll be commenting on the gcobb equivilant of whatever team your loser quarterback tricks into signing him and saying you’re a hardcore heat fan.

mhenski
mhenski
June 6, 2013 11:39 pm
Reply to  109876ers

howard blows

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 6, 2013 11:39 pm
Reply to  109876ers

Once again…

I wanted to be a Lakers Girl…I thought Paula Abdul was AWESOME..it would be hard for me to walk away from the Lakers since I’ve been a fan since I was 6.

I hate the Heat.

I was an Eagles fan BEFORE Vick got here. Will be an Eagles fan when he’s gone.

But thanks for telling me who I am and where my sports loyalties lie.

109876ers
109876ers
June 6, 2013 11:44 pm
Reply to  109876ers

you’re welcome dummy! 🙂 i’m glad i can help you understandddd your front runner ways

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 7, 2013 12:17 am
Reply to  109876ers

Awwww…he’s mad ’cause he’s a fan of a team that can’t win any championships. I know honey….need a hug?

Me an Mhenski actually agree on something…Howard definitely blows.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 6, 2013 11:34 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Those are the numbers reported by a guy who is actually at the practices and tabulating the throws.

“Several ints”. He’s reported 4 ints in 65 atts. (what would that be…2 a game)

“Kelly yelled at vick”
“Vick’s up next. He can’t find anyone downfield and takes off running for a big gain down the left sideline. Kelly is OK with that part, but he’s not OK with how Vick is carrying the football. “Mike!” he shouts, before reminding him to tuck the ball away.” From Kapida on Birds 24/7

I really really apologize for interpreting the word “shouts” as “yelled”

“No tds”
Again, the dude from NJ.com who has been at the practices has reported that Vick has not thrown a TD in the OTAs during the 7 on 7 or 11 on 11

Look, I’m really really sorry that this vick shitting the bed upsets you so much that you feel the need to do everything in your power to pretend it isn’t happening, or explain it all away, but it is happening.

Vick has been pretty f-ing terrible this camp…and maybe its been 38 of 65, or 35 of 63 or whatever…..it still stinks.

ANd I for one am glad, because if he’s hitting 57% in shorts, then it’ll only quickedn his departure.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 7, 2013 12:14 am

““Vick’s up next. He can’t find anyone downfield and takes off running for a big gain down the left sideline. Kelly is OK with that part, but he’s not OK with how Vick is carrying the football. “Mike!” he shouts, before reminding him to tuck the ball away.” From Kapida on Birds 24/7”

Look at how you phrased what happened and what actually happened. That’s my point.

“Those are the numbers reported by a guy who is actually at the practices and tabulating the throws.”

Sigh. There’s more than one reporter at the practices. There’s more than one set of numbers out there. And from (another?) NJ guy:

– 14 of 22 with 1 TD and 2 INTs

I guess that means Vick actually threw a TD at camp according to that NJ guy.

And 2 INTs does not make several and only 2 have I read anywhere. But your NJ guy must have diff set of eyeballs then everyone else.

And from the NJ dude (I’m assuming there’s more than one):

Day 1: 19/24 – 79&
Day 2: 14/22 – 63%
Day 3: 17/26 – 65%

Total: 50/72 – 69%

Which isn’t as good as Foles who is in the 80-85% range – but it’s not 57% either.

See..diff reports – diff numbers.

Lots of reporters. Lots of eyeballs. Lots of differing opinions. Most say the same thing – Vick and Foles had a decent camp but the offense mostly looked shitty ’cause they are still learning the playbook.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 7, 2013 8:26 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

You’re right…I guess that 6 looked like a 5….so Vick is in the 60%s (to Foles 80s) And it appears he’s thrown 1 td.

But you seem to convieniently ignore the fumble, passes bounced off the screens, and the sacks that are being reported.

As for the “yelling” vs “shouting” debate. Whatever. Vick pronounced the fumbling problem “solved” and here it is 4 days later and he’s being admonished for carrying the fotball out and down by his hip (where he’s been carrying it for a decade). That’s just funny.

You know what they say about dressing up a pig TS Johnson.

And for some reason that’ll all you seem to want to do.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 7, 2013 8:44 am

“But you seem to convieniently ignore the fumble, passes bounced off the screens, and the sacks that are being reported.”

You seem to ignore them for foles too. (not that passes bounced of screens – that’s pure Vick) – and the fumble your harp on didn’t happen in Mini-camp – happened in voluntary OTAs – where Foles regularly looked like ass as well.

69.4% is a little more than “in the 60s”

“You know what they say about dressing up a pig TS Johnson.”

Well you would know…you do it quite often.

It’s shorts Vinny. Shorts. Means a bunch of nothing.

mhenski
mhenski
June 6, 2013 11:23 pm

vick is like a bosh

paulman
paulman
June 7, 2013 12:04 am

Not to change the Subject but Denver Nuggets and HC George Karl agreed to part ways today, wonder if George Karl would be a nice fit for the 76ers Job.he has a track record of Coaching well with Young athletic Players..
Word is that he’s interested in the Clippers job, but who knows what the new GM Hinkie gas up his sleeve..

mhenski
mhenski
June 7, 2013 12:14 am
Reply to  paulman

George is a damn good coach. I don’t want him tho. Sixers need to play bad to get better

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
June 7, 2013 12:18 am

Can we get rid of this guy already…PLEASE…

Dear Coach Kelly,

I and many other Eagles fans are ready to move on from 7 as the QB of the Eagles. This is for football and non football reasons alike. I am tired f having the QB of my team sound like the biggest DOPE in the universe. First I have Donovan McNabb who did in fact win a ton of games but then utters “keep my name out your mouth”…ect ect.. Only slightly embarrassing as the team was WINNING. Then we get the DREAM TEAM from a guy who made FRED X look like a Genius. Now I have MV7 selling us a Dynasty in the making but then can’t stay upright for a quarter in the preseason. Please Please Please get us a LEADER!

Deepthreat
Deepthreat
June 7, 2013 1:40 am
Reply to  RegalEagle

It’s good that you guys have no control over my favorite football team. The hate that your spew blinds you to the truth. You take statements out of context to purposely distort their meaning. Your evaluation of a player’s worth is based on incomplete statistics; as if we’re so stupid as to not remember what actually happened in 2010 thru 2012. I respect Chip Kelly. He’s a clear thinking football genius, who wants to put the best team on the field without the “jaundiced eye” of some of the so-called football fans here in Philadelphia.

DMAN
DMAN
June 7, 2013 2:03 am

Hey Vick…GFY!! Your comment about you wanting to know who the starter is before camp just goes to show all you care about is yourself. You earn that in camp my man. Nothing should ever be handed to anyone, especially someone who had such horrid numbers last yr. You hit it right on the head Denny. F**cking unbelievable!

DCar
DCar
June 7, 2013 2:40 am

I love this site! SOO many delusions. SOOO many stepfords. SOOOO many imbeciles, who can’t use their brains! God Bless America! XD BWAHAHAHA!!!!

Xevious
Xevious
June 7, 2013 6:47 am
Reply to  DCar

Amen Dcar…It’s the Cult of Vick.

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 7, 2013 6:57 am

So Vick is a bad guy because he wants a starter named before camp? Man you guys are grasping for straws again posting unofficial stats from the OTA’s? This is what we’re reduced too? Man I can’t wait until the pads go on and they are actually playing games. Foles/Vick, Vick/Foles who as fans really care if this defense or overall team sucks? Oh I know we’ll just blame it on Vick or Foles.

Xevious
Xevious
June 7, 2013 7:12 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Thats how the game goes man…most important position in all of sports. You want the glory, you gotta deal with the grief. No one is grasping at straws big. 12 years of stats, facts, and sound bites are all the proof anyone needs. People don’t accept the truth because they have personal preferences. A mediocre Carson Palmer who NO ONE HERE wants has had a much better career than Vick yet people here love Vick. I have no idea why I still comment, no matter how logical I am people will pine and ignore it. That’s why I call it the Cult of Vick. Peace either way!!

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 7, 2013 7:20 am
Reply to  Xevious

Xevious, DCar, Jake, paulman, if you see my comments on a Vick post call me out. I will not comment on any posts about him or Foles until training camp. This is just ridiculous whether you hate his play or support him just look at the comments. Just ridiculous.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 7, 2013 7:44 am
Reply to  Biglion821

I’m with you there.

I work online so when I don’t want to do what I’m supposed to be doing I wonder over here or other Eagles related blogs.

No more positing on anything QB related ’till training camp. Though on this blog you can make a non-Vick comment and someone will come behind you and tell you you’re commenting about Vick.

lol

Xevious
Xevious
June 7, 2013 9:40 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Guys I tried that..I made it 4 months but it’s impossible to maintain lol. Plus It’s coming..time to get ready lol. I get more excited as june turns into July…I watch all the sports (including fake wrestling) but Eagles are still #1 by far..by all sports I mean all philly sports lol. Just do your best to be civil and respectful when you post. I try to be logical but I am livid sometimes when I post. Chin up and Go Eagles..

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 7, 2013 10:06 am
Reply to  Xevious

I hear you Xevious I cannot wait and living in this fake NFL city down here in Jacksonville is torture. At least I will be able to see my team in August during the pre season.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 7, 2013 11:19 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Where bouts you live in Jax?

I’m in Arlington…didn’t know you were down here. Are you from Jax or a transplant?

I would suggest we meet up at sports bar and watch Eagles game – but I don’t know if you’re married or have a girlfriend so don’t want to appear to be too forward.

mhenski
mhenski
June 7, 2013 11:29 am
Reply to  Biglion821

love me some atlantic beach. was just at the one ocean for a week a few weeks back, rained for a week but had fun at poe’s and some of the local restaurants.

big fan of 13 gypsies restaurant in jax

granbeagle
granbeagle
June 7, 2013 7:25 am

Mike, maybe you should be careful what you wish for. I was surprised when Kelly kept him on the roster in the first place, and I’ll bet he is regretting that decision now. It seems everybody else on this team has managed to keep their issues with new positions, schemes practices etc. to themselves.

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 7, 2013 7:27 am

One last thing I agree with Mhenski, at this point I hope Barkley or Dixon wins the job. The internet would meltdown. LOL

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 7, 2013 11:21 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Now that would be AWESOME.

I can see the heads exploding now. lol

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 7, 2013 7:33 am

Vick never got the memo that there is no ‘I’ in team…. he uses ‘I’ an awful lot…. what a jackass.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
June 7, 2013 8:33 am

All anyone needs to know:

2 weeks ago:
(on fumbling) ‘”And what he told me felt comfortable. I had a tighter grip on the football. That should secure that problem as long as I work on it.”

Problem “solved”

Yesterday:
Kelly ‘shouting’ (shouting, not yelling) at Vick to hold the ball properly.

Not as “solved” as we were led to believe…….

That’s all you need to know.

tariq1
tariq1
June 7, 2013 10:25 am

The Vick haters are in full bloom…of course Vick wants the starter to be named before camp! Its obvious why too…he wants the reps so he can get the system down right! Lets face it…Foles just doesn’t fit the ‘read-option’…it would be a more sensible QB competition if it were Vick and Dixon! Kelly has made it clear that its going to be a big part of the offense…and what has Foles ever proven?
Mike Vick should be the starter..his teammates prefer him and the offense fits him better..

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
June 7, 2013 10:50 am

This one is easy to predict.

Pro-Vick = “I like that he is declaring what he wants to do. Shows confidence. Foles stinks and doesn’t fit the system”
Anti-Vick = “He needs to stop whining about this and prove that he is the starter. Vick stinks as he turns the ball over too much and he is an injury risk.”

mhenski
mhenski
June 7, 2013 11:03 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

also in anti vick you should include he holds the ball to long, takes to many sacks, turns his back to the line of scrimmage regularly, is a poor passer and always has been, he does not sustain drives, he has too many 3 and outs

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
June 7, 2013 11:20 am
Reply to  mhenski

LOL.

Boy – you do like t make stuff up don’t know. You and Vinnie should be fast friends.

mhenski
mhenski
June 7, 2013 11:21 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

what is wrong specifically in what i wrote?

DCar
DCar
June 8, 2013 1:09 am
Reply to  mhenski

Nothing.

Muimuiman
Muimuiman
June 7, 2013 12:59 pm

Should have kept Vince Young

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 7, 2013 1:28 pm

@ts Johnson I am over on the Westside and yes that would be okay, I am married but my wife understands Eagle fans LOL. I am a transplant been down here 10 years. Mhenski you can eat well in Jax, if you ever get back head down to St. Augustine you’ll love it.

mhenski
mhenski
June 7, 2013 2:10 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

my wife works in jax 3-4 times a year and i go to play. been to st augustine. ate & drank at the outdoor spot near there forget the name but they had tiki huts for tables outside, wasnt impressed at all

paulman
paulman
June 7, 2013 2:39 pm

I agree with all above and will “Suspend myself, with Full Pay and Benefits”,of course, and will no longer be posting comments on gcobb.com pertaining to anything about the Eagles.. I am done.. God Bless..

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
June 7, 2013 5:04 pm

I’ll be in Jax for the preseason game this year. Hopefully Mhenski shows up so I can slap the taste out of his mouth.

BIG Eagles turnout every sunday at the SOUTHSIDE BWW’s for all my Jacksonville folk.

mhenski
mhenski
June 7, 2013 5:33 pm
Reply to  BirdoBeamen

Classy guy At least you didn’t talk your normal queer speak today

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 7, 2013 6:21 pm
Reply to  BirdoBeamen

You in Jacksonville Birdo?

frankdialogue
June 7, 2013 8:42 pm

Well, slow week in sports in Philadelphia, so stir up some Mike Vick controversy….Maybe get a couple more ‘Google A-Sense’ hits.

I hope that Vick has banked his signing bonus in a safe account; away from the IRS, parasite ‘family members’, ‘friends’ and creditors.

It’s hard for me to believe that Vick is so dumb as to say something serious to any trolling reporter who shoves a microphone in his face…He should just say ‘I like Coach Kelly’s approach and all of us here are working hard’.

jakedog
jakedog
June 7, 2013 8:49 pm

That’s the problem big Frank , Vick is the dumbest human being alive to make the money he has , dumber than a bag of hammers, trust me chip Kelly sees this , especially with Vicks help, haha, Vick can’t help himself

jakedog
jakedog
June 7, 2013 8:52 pm

And we will finally see big nick foles, thanks in part to Vicks stupidity

DMAN
DMAN
June 9, 2013 12:45 am

I don’t give a shit what people think. I will say what I want…so BLOW ME! I’ve said this before…you fuckers can find me at my bar in Oceanside, Ca. I’m the Italian guy who is throwing back Jameson at the bar hahahahaha