• December 10, 2022

Eagles-Panthers: What I’m Watching For

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  • Michael Vick has a chance to further secure the starting job with another quality performance. Vick made quick, effective decisions against the Patriots and he needs to continue to do that against Carolina. The starting job is Vick’s to lose. Another quality performance could put an end to the battle, but he could just as easily prolong it if he falls back into his bad, turnover-prone habits.
  • Nick Foles needs to show a lot to keep himself in the running for the job. Foles looked very good running an uptempo offense last week, but its not going to be enough to convince Chip Kelly to give him the nod over Vick. This week will be his best chance to impress; Foles begins the game as the starter.
  • Matt Barkley showed some good things last week, but I wasn’t overly impressed with him. Granted, it was his first taste of NFL game action, and at this point he’s still very raw. I want to see how much more comfortable, if at all, he looks now that he’s experienced what its like to quarterback in the NFL.

Running Backs

  • Is Chris Polk still ahead of Bryce Brown? Polk got the start ahead of Brown last week, and did some good things (particularly in pass protection) but Brown is the better overall talent, and the former seventh-round pick looked pretty good once he got into the game.
  • Felix Jones didn’t help his cause at all last week, and he’s got to bring something to the table this week in order to have any legitimate shot of sticking around. Jones is an explosive talent that is a threat to take the ball to the house anytime the ball is in his hands. If he can show that he can hold on to the ball and make some things happen, he could still force his way onto the roster.
  • Matthew Tucker looked pretty good last week. He’s got little shot of making the team, but he’s a prime practice squad candidate.

Wide Receivers/Tight Ends

  • Can Greg Salas keep his level of play up? Salas had a strong showing against New England, and he appears to be in the lead for the fifth receiver position.
  • Can newcomer Jeff Maehl make a good impression? The Eagles acquired the receiver this week from the Texans in exchange for offensive lineman Nate Menkin, and he’s familiar with Chip Kelly from their time together at Oregon.
  • Are we going to see any flashes from either Russell Shepard or Ifeanyi Momah this week?
  • I’d like to see Zach Ertz play a little with the first-team.

Offensive Line

  • The Carolina Panthers have a very talented defensive line. Ends Greg Hardy and Charles Johnson combined for 23.5 sacks last year, and the team added Star Lotulelei in the first-round. We’re going to get a good look at how much better the Eagles’ offensive line is this year, as they try to hold up against this tough line.
  • It sounds like Jason Peters is a no-go again, so we’ll get another look at Alan Barbre at left tackle.
  • Todd Herremans needs to have a better game than he did last week. Herremans has been having some problems, and if he struggles again it might be time to start getting a little concerned about the veteran who has a great deal of mileage on him.

Defensive Line

  • The starters need to be much more impactful than they were last week. Fletcher Cox, Isaac Sopoaga, and Cedric Thronton were all dominated by the powerful New England offensive line. The Patriots ran the ball at will, and had no problem protecting Tom Brady.
  • Vinny Curry was the team’s most active defensive lineman last week, and he could make a push for a starting job with another strong effort.
  • Damian Square and Bennie Logan both performed pretty well against New England, but did it against the second and third teams of the Patriots. I’d like to see both of these guys get some looks with the starters.
  • Is Antonio Dixon going to make this roster? He was invisible against New England, and with guys like Square and Logan emerging I’m not sure that Dixon is going to fit here.

Linebackers

 

  • With the exception of Connor Barwin, the starters we’re all brutal last week. DeMeco Ryans needs to have a better game and provide us with some optimism that he can succeed in a 3-4.
  • I want to see some evidence that Trent Cole can at least look passable in coverage.
  • I don’t want to see these guys overpursuing plays or missing tackles like Ryans and second-year man Mychal Kendricks did last week.
  • Rookie Jake Knott was the team’s most impressive linebacker a week ago, will he continue to play well?
  • I want to see more of Phillip Hunt. I thought Hunt had some nice moments last week, and I hope he gets more of an opportunity to show what he can do in this scheme.
  • Jamar Chaney was awful last week, and he’s going to be out of here soon if he doesn’t shape up.

Cornerbacks/Safeties

  • Bradley Fletcher can’t get abused like he was a week ago. The Eagles are in trouble if he can’t be one of their starters.
  • Someone needs to step up and take the starting job away from Nate Allen. I don’t see any evidence that suggests Allen is going to be anything better than what he’s been throughout his career. The guy just can’t tackle, and he’s a serious liability.
  • If we don’t start seeing some strong play from Kenny Phillips soon, we may never see it at all. His knee still hasn’t been right, and he could very well turn out to be this year’s version of O.J. Atogwe, a former playmaking safety with a bad injury history who the Eagles similarly gave a one-year deal to a year ago only to release him before the regular season.
  • Earl Wolff got some first-team reps in practice this week, and he may have the best shot to sit Allen down.
  • Patrick Chung was the one guy in the secondary that I was actually impressed with. Chung was around the ball, and hit hard. I need to see more positives from him though.

Final Thoughts

Defensively, the Eagles are going to have their hands full.

Cam Newton tore this defense to shreds in 2012, picking up over 300 yards through the air and 50 on the ground, scoring four total touchdowns in last year’s Week 12 matchup. After getting absolutely embarrassed by the New England Patriot starters, defensive coordinator Billy Davis needs to make some adjustments fast. The starters are set to play for the entire first half, and considering the Patriots torched this unit for over 160 yards and two touchdowns in less than a quarter, we could be in for a great deal of defensive ineptitude tonight.

I want to see some kind of improvement from this group; at the very least I want to see that this group has a little heart. Even if Carolina scores on every possession, I want this defense to at least make them fight for every yard.

 

 

 

 

Denny Basens

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runtheball09
runtheball09
August 15, 2013 1:47 am

I want to take a look at Danny Watkins for some reason. I want to see if he’s gonna pan out or not.

DixieFan
DixieFan
August 15, 2013 7:36 am

Let’s remember that teams don’t “game plan” for these games. I will be looking to see how quickly Vick and Foles get the ball out and how well they read the Defense. Think this will determine who the starting QB will be – not who scores more TDs in a practice game.

daggolden
daggolden
August 15, 2013 8:16 am
Reply to  DixieFan

How can you possibly know how the QB reads the defense from your living room? I always get a chuckle out of fans who cant read a defense themselves but can determine if someone else can read one. Its almost like me telling someone they arent speaking French the right way and I dont even speak French.

DixieFan
DixieFan
August 15, 2013 8:44 am
Reply to  daggolden

I can see who is holding the ball. I can see if a QB throws to the open WR or tries to force the ball into coverage. Besides I played football in HS and college.” I don’t speak French…

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
August 15, 2013 9:37 am
Reply to  DixieFan

“not who scores more TDs in a practice game.”

If you think that’s not a factor – I got some land in Florida to sell you.

jbird
jbird
August 15, 2013 12:50 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

The QB of the future is not on the roster and you aren’t getting him with the 12th pick of the draft next year.

paulman
paulman
August 15, 2013 7:44 am

Good Outline Denny and agree with your highlights you listed
I see about 5-6 Veteran Players who need solids games or the Eagles Staff/Kelky and Roseman are going to have to start thinking about
Finding replacemts off the waiver wire or some trades
(isn’t DL Richard Seymour still out there??)
Anyways
OL Herrenans & Watkins
RB F Jones
DL A Dixon
LB’s Ryans & Cole & Cheney
Safeties Allen & Coleman & Phillips

I see a couple of Players from this Group getting released this week

As far as what I will be watching for
OT’s barbre & L Johnson
Interior OL versus Dwan Edwards, Star Lotuleike & Kwann Dhort of the Panthers
The Eagles TE’s versus the Panthers LB’s
& Safeties (Godfrey from Carolina is a good one)
Can the Eagkes WR’s get open and make plays outside of D-Jax, Avant & Salas.. Panthers CB’s is their weakness
Of course, good QB Play from Vick (who looked great versus the Pats) and Foles who looked pretty good also..

Defensively– looking at everyone and the 2nd Stringers who may elevate to Starter Status by Week #1
Cox, Thornton & Soapaga need to step up
V Curry, B Logan and D Squares need some reps with the 1st Team
The Stsrting LB Corp must play downhill and aggressive and not so passive as last week.. Secondary needs all Players to step up
I will be looking for LB Knott, Hunt & McCoy and DB’s Boynkin, Marsh and Wolff to see if they can continue to put pressure on the fisrt Teamers

Should be an exciting and interesting game and I believe it will give us Fans at the halfway point of Summer Camp on what to expect from this 2013 Team
But changes and Player Personnel moves will be needed..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
August 15, 2013 8:57 am

I know what I’ll be looking for:

“That’s what we want to model everything after,” Foles said. “The tempo. That’s what we want to do.”

Right now we know that one guy has been able to handle the Chip Kelly tempo. Can they both?

I’m outta here.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
August 15, 2013 9:38 am

lol.

What you should hope for is no turnovers for your boy. Push the tempo all he wants – keep turning the ball over and there will be problems.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
August 15, 2013 12:04 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

And Vice-versa.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
August 15, 2013 5:16 pm

Oh wait…who was turnover free last week?

Oh Okay.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
August 15, 2013 6:04 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

And who is 4th all time fumble % in NFL history?

Much like arguing mv’s weight gain, trying to pimp him as some ball security expert is laughable.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
August 15, 2013 10:01 am

So, what does any of this mean Vinnie if Vick gets the start and do well?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
August 15, 2013 12:05 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

or the other way around.

Hey, if Vick does well against the Panthers in the 2nd Q….will you say “its only because it was against Carolina’s 2nd stringers” Like you did with Foles last week?

Go watch an RGIII highlight film and get yourself off turncoat.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
August 15, 2013 10:03 am

Foles gets blasted, looks horrible with another turn over….Vick comes in and takes the show and put all this asinine rhetoric to rest.

“Paste it”

Remember I was the guy who told everyone Kolb had a 2 game maximum.

PASTE IT!

greenfan
greenfan
August 15, 2013 3:38 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

You also declared that you were no longer an Eagles fan….you are a Redskins . PASTE IT

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
August 15, 2013 9:02 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

earlier^^^^^^^^^^^^

prediction

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
August 15, 2013 10:28 am

Remember I was the guy who told everyone Kolb had a 2 game maximum.

PASTE IT!

You were also the guy who said that you were no longer an Eagles fan – until Vick came back that is… Which just proves that you are not an Eagles fan at all..

So who cares what you think…

Xevious
Xevious
August 15, 2013 12:13 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Couldn’t agree with you more….As soon as Vick was back so was he. I wonder if he returned the RG3 Jersey’s he bought his kids? Im sick of the non Eagle Vick first fans.

paulman
paulman
August 15, 2013 10:49 am

I think both QB’s are playing well and having good Camps thus far so my Focus will be on the Rest of the Team that has lots of question ? and holes to correct… The OL will have a stiff Test, After D-Jax/Avant who are the other Receivers that can be counted on to consistently make Plays and the Entrie Defense needs a lot of improvement and play together as a Unit …
The Starting QB (Vick or Foles) is way down at the bottom of needs for this Team for I think the Eagles can move the ball and be productive with either of them at the helm… The Rest of the Team and especially the Defense, I am not so sure about ….

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
August 15, 2013 11:11 am
Reply to  paulman

“The Starting QB (Vick or Foles) is way down at the bottom of needs for this Team for I think the Eagles can move the ball and be productive with either of them at the helm… The Rest of the Team and especially the Defense, I am not so sure about ….”

Completely agree

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
August 15, 2013 12:13 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Why worry about a problem that cannot possiby be fixed right now? The D will be terrible this year…terrible. New players. New coaches. New system. stopgabs signed everywhere in the secondary. They are going to be cover your eyes bad for at least the first 8 games.

“Fixing” the D will be a 2 to 3 year endeavour.

More DL and LBs next year. Cbs the year after that.

Hopefully good next year, and hopefully very good the following.

Grooming a QB is also a 2 to 3 year process. If you don’t begin now, well then, its going to be a long long wait till we see any success.

What would be the point of hanging on to the fading superstar for one or 2 more years? By the time this D gets good, you going to then drop a rookie QB in and watch the team flounder on the O side of the ball for 2 more seasons.

I guess that’s the TS qway. Hang on to the old man now whhile the D is pathetic, then start a rook when the D is ready….2 years of shit now, followed by 2 years of shit later.

But you don’t care. All you care about is your schoolgirl crush at QB.

Lets get grooming those kids at QB so they’ll be ready when the D becomes competent in a couple seasons.

It is in the long term interests of the team.

jbird
jbird
August 15, 2013 12:38 pm

I am so sick of this QB situation I won’t even read the stories anymore. I like Foles but he is looking more and more like Chad Pennington to me. A check down master that is not dynamic what-so-ever. And Vick is too old to build around. I used to think Kelly would either be Spurrier or Bill Walsh but not in between. A failure or a champion. Now I fear he may end up being that 10-6 guy that can’t win the big one because of course we only have a top five pick in the year without a QB. And now he will never draft that high going forward to get that franchise QB. I really don’t think Foles or Barkley is that guy in the future. They are both just seviceable starters that can maybe get you to the final four with the right supporting cast. But you aren’t winning a title with them unless you have a HOF defense. And that is unfathomable at this point in our history.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
August 15, 2013 2:48 pm

What?

I don’t have a problem with Foles starting…hence my “agreed” with what Paulman said. He can run the offense. Vick def makes it more dynamic but he (Foles) can get it done I think.

So what the hell are you talking about?

Butch007
Butch007
August 15, 2013 11:31 am

You know, with the defense looking as bad as it does I’m almost wondering if Vick and Foles stay as close as they are now if it makes sense for the Eagles to try to trade Vick and a draft pick to say Buffalo for Mario Williams or to Chicago for Julius Peppers before the season starts. I want to see what the D looks like tonight knowing Carolina is dependent on the run, but it obviously seems like a personnel problem. Something has to be done about this defense.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
August 15, 2013 11:47 am
Reply to  Butch007

Butch Vick is up in age, right?

So, it would make more sense to trade Foles to the Bills for those players and picks you mentioned knowing they would give up more for a player with a greater upside. right?

Based on what i’m hearing from you guys, Foles is the more valuable asset.

right?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
August 15, 2013 12:03 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Yes. He is. That’s why you can’t trade him. Trading away youth and holding on to old fading players so they can have “one last chance” is a disasterous way to run a franchise.

Besides, nither Buffalo or Chicago would want Vick. Buffalo just spent a 1st round pick on their QB of the future and Trestman just won 3 CFL championships with a statue for a QB. He likes his statues. Besides, why would Cicago trade for one turnover prone fading guy to replace their other turnover prone fading guy anyway? Makes no sense.

The Eagles can’t trade Vick because there is no market for Vick. (maybe TB. Maybe. Of course the Raiders would always be in play I suppose. They like to do dumb things.)

paulman
paulman
August 15, 2013 1:37 pm

Vinnie, take a breath of American Fresh Air..
Mike Vick is going nowhere, in fact, he will be the Starter for the Eagles in 2013 and depending on how he and the Team do, maybe even in the future as well.. Meanwhile, this Team has issues everywhere else on it’s Roster (outside of RB & TE) so let’s focus on the other Positions and Players that can round out this Roster

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
August 15, 2013 2:04 pm

Vinnie?

Why wouldn’t Buffalo or Chicago want Vick over Foles?

Don’t the league GM’s see things as you see them?

Why would they want Vick over Foles?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
August 15, 2013 6:21 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Hmmm….you just asked 2 completely opposite questions. Makes no sense. but if u look above I explain clearly why chic and buff would not want vick.

Chic might be interested in files, buff would not.

No fresh air here…trapped In an airport.

jbird
jbird
August 15, 2013 12:45 pm
Reply to  Butch007

Those trades wouldn’t happen and those guys are not good scheme fits in a 3-4 defense either. But I agree the defense is prety awful and several drafts away from being good. We are going to need someone to step up because we don’t have four years to count on first and second round picks. Guys like Logan, Curry Knott, Wolf need to be diamonds in the rough. Not all of them but some here and there. We need good players after the second round to show up.

jbird
jbird
August 15, 2013 12:06 pm

Everyone probably agrees the Eagles defense stinks. My question is how many players do we have right now that could be part of a defense good enough to help the offense win a championship? I will be optimistic and figure Cox, Kendricks (maybe) and Boykin (only in the slot) are building blocks fro the long term. Barwin and possibly Fletcher (at RCB) are adequate on a team with title aspirations. So that would mean we needed eight more guys. That’s a lot of guys. I left out Ryans because I think he becomes cost prohibitive after this year and he is another quiet lead by example guy like Cole that we need less of. We need a little more fire and vocal leadership with a little psychosis like B Dawk.
Are there guys that might be a valuable piece moving forward? I would love if Cury and Logan could become our other two starters on the line. The big piece though is whether Graham could ever become the other OLB and be an impact player. Barwin is solid but you need an impact guy at one of those spots. And if Graham is not it then its a double whammy because 1) you ultimately wasted that pick once you trade him for a fourth round bag of beans and 2) now you have to spend your first round pick on that next year or write a really big check that eats up most of your cap. And the problem with using the first round pick is that then you can’t get the stud safety we have been needing in the first round. I have become of the opinion in the modern era safeties have now become more important than shutdown corners. I would take Earl Thomas over Richard Sherman any day because safeties just give you more on defense. They are what LBs used to be to your defense.
So even if Fletcher is serviceable and the young guys on the line fill the holes we may need five more starters after this year and we need two of them (at OLB and FS) to be PB impact players.

paulman
paulman
August 15, 2013 1:54 pm
Reply to  jbird

I see 3-4 Solid Defensive Players Currently on this Team that appear to fit this 3-4 Scheme moving Forward (F Cox,C Barwin for sure) then maybe Curry, Graham, Logan, Hunt & Chung but only after 1 Game it’s impossible to say with any cetrainty..
I do have a pretty good feel for who is not a fit for this 3-4 Scheme
Trent Cole, D Ryans, M Kendricks (as long as he continues to play ILB)
J Cheney, A Dixon, Safeties Allen & Coleman
Jury is still out on C Thornton,and all the Younger Players

jbird
jbird
August 15, 2013 12:14 pm

I am so sick of the QB situation I won’t even read the stories anymore. I like Foles but he is looking more and more like Chad Pennington to me. A check down master that is not dynamic what-so-ever. And Vick is too old to build around. I used to think Kelly would either be Spurrier or Bill Walsh but not in between. A failure or a champion. Now I fear he may end up being that 10-6 guy that can’t win the big one because of course we only have a top five pick in the year without a QB. And now he will never draft that high going forward to get that franchise QB. I really don’t think Foles or Barkley is that guy in the future. They are both just seviceable starters that can maybe get you to the final four with the right supporting cast. But you aren’t winning a title with them unless you have a HOF defense. And that is unfathomable at this point in our history.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
August 15, 2013 1:25 pm

I really don’t think Foles or Barkley is that guy in the future.

Well, we will never know if they don’t play. What we do know is that Michael Vick is 33 years old and his legs are going. He is not a good enough QB to make it without his running abilities. So, his time in the league is coming to a close… Which is why it makes no sense for him to play on a 6-10 rebuilding team.

Kelly will do the same thing that Reid did last year – bench Vick when the Eagles a out of contention… So Foles and/or Barkley lose a year of experience and there is very little chance we draft a QB next year.

Jeez, I wish Gus Bradley was our coach – Vick would be a forgotten memory…

jbird
jbird
August 15, 2013 1:38 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

He was the safer choice.But I am not sure you win a SB with those guys. He is more likely the next Jack Del Rio than the next Bill Cowher. And Cowher failed a lot in embarrassing fashion before winning one on bad calls. Everyone forgets that as the years go by. This guy was a bit of a gamble but I’d gamble on getting Bill Walsh over Bill Cowher if you know what I mean. Chip’s upside could be HOF revolutionary. I don’t see that from Gus.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
August 15, 2013 2:22 pm

I don’t know… Bill Walsh had 10 years of NFL experience when he got the head coaching job with the 49ers. It works both way > With Kelly you gamble on getting Steve Spurrier. > With Gus Bradley you might get Bill Belechick!

jbird
jbird
August 15, 2013 2:33 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Good point. I just don’t know how much of the crazy stuff Seattle is doing was Bradley or Carroll.

Rocko
Rocko
August 15, 2013 2:48 pm

“Vick will be the starter and get us to the playoffs. Remember Rocko said this when the end of November rolls around”. Mark my words…

mhenski
mhenski
August 15, 2013 3:02 pm
Reply to  Rocko

Lmfao. Not in this lifetime bro.

jbird
jbird
August 15, 2013 3:09 pm
Reply to  mhenski

They just have to go 4-2 in the division. Den, GB definite Ls. I feel pretty good about SD in 1 pm east coast game and KC is one you should get also. Oak has to be a W. I feel prety good about playing Det and Ariz outdoors in December especially with Ariz playing at 1 pm. Get Chi or Minn and its not crazy.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
August 15, 2013 3:21 pm

I’m re-watching the game on NFL Network and I must say, I usually drink during games so I’m rather intoxicated halfway through the 3rd quarter…..but I like what I see from Matt Barkley. Rookie in the game. First taste of NFL action. I think he did ok. I think he’ll be our starter of the future, real talk. He won’t play this year, but next year he will have a chance to compete for the starting spot vs. Nick Foles.

That is of course, if Vick doesn’t go off this year. If we see Vick play well, I see another contract extension.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
August 15, 2013 4:56 pm

Defense…That’s what I’m watching for…I want to see if this defense looks improved from a week ago. Especially watching for how the LB;s fill the gaps on the run. I expect to see more 3 safety sets tonight as well from whats being reported, Eagles been working more on this.
On offense want to Salas gets some reps with the first team…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
August 15, 2013 5:34 pm

Are you ready for some football? !!!
It’s the sport of kings better than diamond rings… FOOTBALL

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
August 15, 2013 5:36 pm

I want to see Nick Foles throw LEFT.
He is a one side of the field QB from what I have seen. 10 to 15 yard outs to the left side of the field — if he can’t complete that pass he can’t play in the NFL.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
August 15, 2013 6:10 pm

Foles can and will show you he makes that pass all day!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
August 15, 2013 5:39 pm

will Mychal Kendricks get run over again?
I am looking at Kendricks and Foles tonight.
Will any of Howie Roseman’s 2013 free agent signing make a play? Chung looked OK but the rest of the lot has been less than impressive after one game.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
August 15, 2013 5:58 pm

the most interesting thing I saw last week against New England was DJax lining up on the right side especially with Mike Vick. Coach predictable Reid always had DJax on the left. Djax is playing the right side and catching 40 yard TD’s ——— Go Chip Kelly

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
August 15, 2013 6:13 pm

I hear you about the bombs but DJAX and D Johnson both lined up behind Celek and Ertz in the stack give you mad YAC (on a bubble screen) if the D doesnt flow to cover. If they Do cover Shady or Brown own the gut for 4-8yds a clip maybe bust one long!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
August 15, 2013 6:33 pm

Ummmm…i can’t access Fokes ‘splits’ on my phone, but if memory serves he was about 30% passes outside left hashes, 32% between hashes, and 38% outside right hash something like that…., very normal…slightly higher tendency to his ‘open’ side….very tropical of rooks…esp ender duress.

What direction did Kaps last fateful pass go in the sb?

The “Foles only throws right” is another one of the many myths you guys like to float on here.

NuGreembol
NuGreembol
August 15, 2013 7:57 pm

Foles is a turnover machine!!!!! lol

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
August 15, 2013 8:01 pm

Ouch! after one series Nick Foles 2 fumbles and one Int.

daggolden
daggolden
August 15, 2013 8:02 pm

You cant go 80 yards on 5 yard passes. The odds are you will eventually make a mistake. Chips offense at Oregon avg 40 points a games not on 10 play 8 min drives.

mhenski
mhenski
August 15, 2013 8:17 pm

I enjoyed that first drive A FUCKING LOT. Not the result I wanted but to see but was great to see a Oc mix the fucking plays up , pound the rock, play with urgency , play smart and fast.

The days of Reid are long gone and this guy chip is very refreshing

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
August 15, 2013 8:39 pm

Nice plays by Geathers and Logan to make that last drive 3rd and 6. Williams is not impressing me much tonight. He can lay the wood but he looks hesitant and slow.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
August 15, 2013 8:40 pm

Vick looks pretty comfortable when the o line gives him time.

Rocko
Rocko
August 15, 2013 8:40 pm

Mhenski I concur except Foles mistakes… Remember; “Vick will be the starter and get us to the playoffs. Remember Rocko said this when the end of November rolls around”. Mark my words…

Rocko
Rocko
August 15, 2013 8:43 pm

Damn Vick is looking to good out there!!!!!!! Good job o line for protecting our QB! Now is the time and Vick is hitting guys down field and he looks relaxed in the pocket…Kudos to the Oline and O coord!

Rocko
Rocko
August 15, 2013 8:48 pm

” In the evaluation process you have to be impressed with what Mike Vick is doing” (Brian Baldinger). DO YO THANG VICK!!!!!!!!

NuGreembol
NuGreembol
August 15, 2013 8:50 pm

Foles also can’t get the ball to Desean second drive was all Shady and it was a short field. 2 drives 2 fumbles 1 that was close 1 INT and a rushing TD Vick would have scored easy. Vick has the better arm and can extend plays. Foles showed some poise but he can’t take care of the ball lol. Competition over. Foles wil be a good backup.

daggolden
daggolden
August 15, 2013 8:54 pm

Competition over. Game set match. It is what it is. It looks like a athletic player vs a non athletic player.A 10 min drive vs a 2 min drive. A #1 pick vs a 3rd round pick. A 4 time pro bowl QB vs a QB just happy to be in NFL.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
August 15, 2013 9:00 pm

must we say anymore?

Vinnie please put up your stats showing seconds per play, pleeeeeease!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
August 15, 2013 9:04 pm

Mike Vick is playing better than Foles because:
1.) Turnovers
2.) Arm Strength
but Mike Vick is just not durable. He only played a quarter and was hit like 5 times. He won’t last 8 quarters like that.

tua14768
tua14768
August 15, 2013 9:47 pm

I agree with the last two points. Turnovers will come as the season progresses.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
August 15, 2013 9:07 pm

Its over. Vick was perfect except for end of half heave. Your starting QB folks : Michaeeeelllllll Vick!!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
August 15, 2013 9:09 pm

Patrick Chung was outstanding. Nice to see a safety lay some wood.
Kendrick shook off last weeks game and had a good game today.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
August 15, 2013 9:11 pm

How is that no name LT a journeyman? Barbre? I’m impressed

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
August 15, 2013 9:23 pm

Barbre looks better than Lane Johnson.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
August 15, 2013 9:18 pm

Anyone check on Vinnie?

Making sure he’s not hanging himself or preparing to leap off the nearest bridge.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
August 15, 2013 9:23 pm

Special teams have been great so far too. Actually have a return game.

Stevo
Stevo
August 15, 2013 9:25 pm

Foles looked very good. Vick looked better. Same as last week. Good comp.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
August 15, 2013 9:29 pm
Reply to  Stevo

there is no comp.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
August 15, 2013 9:44 pm
Reply to  Stevo

There is no comp.

There was sorta kinda one after last week.

After this week…it’s done.

Vick’s the starter or Kelly is smoking some POWERFUL ish.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
August 15, 2013 9:29 pm

Matt Barkley is a work in progress, so I would have him at the 3rd string with Dixon backing up Vick.

Foles could be trade bait or numbers casualty.

daggolden
daggolden
August 15, 2013 9:37 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Barkley was a wasted pick. Better use of the 1st pick in 4th round on a 3 rd string QB.. Should of went with best defensive player on board. Barkley looks just like every other 3rd string QB in NFL.

mhenski
mhenski
August 15, 2013 9:30 pm

Vick is ur starting qb no doubt. But IMO I was impressed by foles enough that he can lead this team when his number is called. The fumbles were a lack of concentration and are correctable the pick he was being hit on the shoulder/ arm and he needs to be smart enough to pull the ball down when he feels that. I thought other than that play he has good pocket awareness and solid footwork and makes good decisions. He is clearly still growing but his time will come.

On the other hand Barkley doesn’t pass the sniff test at all. I keep hearing about he could’ve been a top 5 or 1st round draft pick if he came out early – well if he did come out early and that happened you would be looking at Matt Blaine gabbert Barkley.

mhenski
mhenski
August 15, 2013 9:36 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I should add Vick hasn’t shown me enough so far to make a believer that he can improve on last year. Vick is a vet and should be carving up vanilla offenses but when blitzes get exotic and the pressure is on what will happen? I’m optimistic mostly because everything chip is calling on offense looks very good… We shall see week 1

I’ve seen enough of this offense to put shady as my #2 fantasy rb at this moment ahead of Doug Martin and Arian foster. Slightly ahead of Doug mostly because Doug plays San Fran Seattle and zona

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
August 15, 2013 9:37 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I wish Vick would get the same lead way when his fumbles are from a lack of concentration which is correctable, or throw a pick when he is being hit on the shoulder.

mhenski
mhenski
August 15, 2013 9:46 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

He has for a decade +

daggolden
daggolden
August 15, 2013 9:40 pm

Where are all the Foles butt lovers at?

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
August 15, 2013 10:27 pm
Reply to  daggolden

I know you’re not a Vick fan Dag.

But you gotta admit..dude looked good. Real good.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
August 15, 2013 10:28 pm
Reply to  daggolden

What I’m saying is I know you think they both suck. lol

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
August 15, 2013 9:42 pm

Im very excited about this team. With Vick running offense we should aberage 40 ppg. With Foles, 30 ppg. Either way, we are in goid shape.

tua14768
tua14768
August 15, 2013 9:44 pm

I feel like as of right now Vick has earned the starting spot. He has shown sharpness and wise decision making. I feel he is very impressive because I am not a Vick supporter. Foles will be a more than competent backup to start the season. Vick will miss a few games due to injury in which Foles will come in to do an adequate job. Matt Barkley is making typical rookie mistakes(Regarding rookies from last season, some people will be surprised how overrated some of them are). The defense will ultimately hurt this team in the long run giving up leads late in games. I predict 6-10 / 7-9.

Tonight Vinny Curry is a bright spot on defense with Vick and McCoy shining on the offensive side.

Fly Eagles Fly

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
August 15, 2013 9:52 pm

where’s Vinnie?

NuGreembol
NuGreembol
August 15, 2013 10:12 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Choking on his own puke lol

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
August 15, 2013 10:06 pm

Hes on a plane getting drunk coming up with another excuse as to why Vick shouldnt start.

Rocko
Rocko
August 15, 2013 10:20 pm

You can always tell the true fans from the false ones. Glad to know at least all of the Foles lovers are on board with who will be the starter. We’ll see what Vinnie has to say. Remember, you can always tell a true fan from a fake and see what Vinnie has to say. He’s either true or fake. i don’t believe he’s honestly a real eagles fan as well as some of you on here but we’ll see…

daggolden
daggolden
August 15, 2013 10:26 pm
Reply to  Rocko

How much can you know about American football when you dont live here anyway. If I need hockey anylsis I think he has more clout.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
August 15, 2013 10:30 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Thats true. No damn Canadian is going to tell me who the qb should be.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
August 15, 2013 10:39 pm

You all are nuts. There is not enough difference between an aging veteran and a young guy to start Vick. Foles should be the guy moving forward…The pass to Celek that was a dink over the defender does not happen with vick….vick would instead scramble and TAKE A HIT. Vick will not hold up getting crushed more and more and more. Still think foles is the guy.

I have stated along time ago though that I would rather a yellow dog than Mike Vick!

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
August 15, 2013 10:42 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

Well…at least you’re consistent.

mhenski
mhenski
August 15, 2013 10:57 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Regal I kind of agree but u can’t not give Vick the job now. He has outplayed nick not by a large margin but he has and Vicks comradely with his teammates is really 2nd to none.

Coach chip has said in the past the players will know who their qb is before I say it and from the looks of it that’s mike…

Now I see the masses all over mikes jock right now and I think it’s way to early to go there because the sample size is extremely small and mike has done this in the past only to let everyone down but I am real excited about the running game and scheme and that will lighten the load on whoever are qb is. But again keep in mind mikes had great running games before and failed miserably.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
August 15, 2013 10:40 pm

Well…

Vinnie can’t use the stopwatch excuse. Vick got the plays off faster this go round. lol

We’ll see what else he’s got, I’m sure.