• March 28, 2024

Eagles-Giants Pregame Thoughts

Michael Vick, Michael Boley, Justin TuckA Must-Win Situation?

Sunday’s game is a potential turning point for the 2013 Eagles.

Its a game that the Eagles almost have to have.

Consider the consequences of either a win or a loss in this game.

If the Eagles win, they can put the ugly three-game losing streak behind them. They can build off of their second division victory, and the fact that it would have come on the road against a desperate team would be all the more impactful. The Eagles could also find themselves in sole possession of first place by the end of the day with the Dallas Cowboys matched up against the Denver Broncos this week. The stage would be set for the Eagles to go on a run and rip off a couple more victories with a pretty easy schedule lying ahead of them in the coming weeks.

If the Eagles lose, they could have some big problems on their hands. They’d be looking at four consecutive losses, and another poor effort against a team that has looked as bad as the 0-4 Giants could do a lot of harm to this team’s psyche.

We could learn a lot about this team after this game.

How The Giants Can Beat The Eagles

Tom Coughlin is a good coach, and the Giants still have some explosive offensive pieces in place that are due to go off. Against a defense this bad, this could be the matchup that Eli Manning needs to get himself right, especially with how badly the Eagles have been torched by slot receivers. Eddie Royal, Donnie Avery, and Wes Welker have lit them up in the last three weeks, and Victor Cruz could very well be next in line for a big game.

Running back David Wilson has been in and out of Tom Coughlin’s doghouse, but the Giants finally appear a little more willing to trust him with a heavier workload. They’ve released his top backup Da’Rel Scott, and with only veteran Brandon Jacobs remaining in the fold, the opportunity is going to be there for the talented second-year man to finally breakout against a defense that has been unable to contain opposing running backs.

For the Giants, the key is going to be protecting the football. Through the first four games, they’ve been turning the ball over four times a game, which is an easy recipe for disaster.

The Giants’ offensive line has struggled to protect Manning and allow their deep passing routes to develop, but they’ll get a good matchup against an Eagles defense that struggles to generate any kind of pass rush. If the New York offensive line wins the battles with the Eagles up front, the potential is there for Manning to have a huge day against one of the worst secondaries in football.

Why The Eagles Will Win

It’s time for Chip Kelly’s offense to breakout and have a big game, and the opportunity will be there to run up the score on a Giants defense that has given up an average of 36.5 points per game this season.

Lost amongst the chaos of the loss in Denver was the fact that Michael Vick did a great job protecting the football, resisting the urge to force throws into coverage like he did against the Chiefs. As long as Vick continues to protect the ball and see the field well, he should see plenty of opportunities for big plays against the New York defense.

As bad as the Eagles defense has been, they’re going to have plenty of chances for turnovers against the mistake-prone New York offense. An extra possession or two for the offense could prove to be the difference in the game.

Final Thoughts

 

Sooner or later, the New York Giants are going to wake up, play better, and win a game…I can’t see them going through through three straight blowout losses. Tom Coughlin and Eli Manning have accomplished too much together over the last five years to ever be disregarded and written off.

Being the desperate team at home, I think the Giants are going to be ready to give the Eagles their best shot. However, their best efforts might not be enough. This New York team has a great deal of flaws and problems, and they haven’t proven that they can beat anybody yet.

I think the Eagles’ offense enjoys a bit of a resurgence now that they’re matched up with a defense that is just as bad as Washington and San Diego, and the Eagles finally notch their second win of the season.

Pick: Philadelphia 31, New York 27

Denny Basens

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vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 6:13 am

If the Eagles get up early, say 10 or better 14 pts, the Giants crowd will turn very, very ugly. Boos will rain down and NYG might quit.

The Giants team has been on the verge of quitting on Coughlin several times over the past 5 years. His ‘hard core’ regime works fine when they’re on a run, but nothing but grumbles when they’re losing.

This will be a fun one to watch just for that reason….is this finally the game/year taht the Gmen bail on TC.

As for the Birds….I don’t know what to think about this game…if then win, then what? They’re 2-3 with the 2 wins coming against teams that are a combined 1-9 (after today). They’re no where near good enough to compete against any of the playoff teams in the NFC, so…….Do we really want the Birds to be this year’s version of the 1995 Detroit Lions?

andrew p
andrew p
October 6, 2013 9:56 am

Vin, I’m not worried about what the records are of the teams we beat, look at KC, the teams they beat are a combined 3-13 and yet nobody talks about that, besides winning, I want to see some improvement on all 3 phases of the ball, these are the kinds of games we need right now to build up our confidence and to keep working on getting the system down pat, like I’ve said from day one, by mid season when we have this system down, were going to make the playoffs and be one of the scarier teams in the NFC.

DonP
DonP
October 6, 2013 9:00 am

Hate to say it Denny but I think we lose this one Cruz gonna look like he on DWTS!Still waiting to see all these great schemes Chip known for but truth of matter we just got shady to depend on, celek cant close his hands fast enough, desean overated, avant lost step, riley never was!

pdiddy
pdiddy
October 6, 2013 9:42 am

I think the Eagles are going to lose, then I woke up and sip that green juice. Now I have the Eagles winning 35-28.

jakedog
jakedog
October 6, 2013 9:46 am

I don’t see the giants going 0-5, especially at home, also don’t see anything on offense other than shady, as Don points out, these games are always close

Giants win, gnashing of teeth for eagles fans

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2013 9:57 am

Giants 35- Eagłes 31
Eagles will move the ball but gain get bogged down in Red-Zone
Kicker Henerey misses another short FG making Chip Kelly lose confidence in him..
Giants Offensively, I look for Hakim Nicks to have a big game as he is playing for his next Contract and will leave Giants free-agency since they have already committed to Cruz for the future and don’t forget about TE Brandon Myers and RB David Wilson who will have a monster game in Running but more effectively on Screens and wheel routes that the Sagkes Defense struggled in stopping
The only chance I see the Eaglez winning is a big game by their DL in pressuring Eli who has folded up like a cheap suit if he gets hit early and often
This game is about what DL puts more pressure on the QB
And Special Teams will be huge also as both Teams coverage a units have been poor this Season so expect a big return or two from either Team

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2013 10:07 am

3-4 QB’s with Big Ganes again Yesterday
Bridgewater, Boyd, Mariotta and don’t sleep on Carr from Fresno State..
Big arm, mobile and reminds me a lot of a younger Aaron Rodgers
Carr happens to be the younger brother of former #1 Pick David Carr but is much better in the Pocket than David ever was..

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2013 10:13 am

After this loss, Eagłes need to move forward and play the young players to see what they have
Foles, Ertz, Barbree, Polk, Curry, Logan,Knott, Wolff
And bench/trade Vick, Bryce Brown, Cooper, Herremans, Celek, Soapaga, Ryans,Cole, & Chung and maybe get some additional Draft Picks for next Draft
Regardless of outcome versus the Giants, this 2013 Eagłes Team is going nowhere as it is presently structured

jakedog
jakedog
October 6, 2013 10:25 am

I agree wholeheartedly paulman, and if the eagles did this, clean house like they should have in pre-season, just see the juice real eagles fans would all of a sudden show, even with losses, but playing it out witness Reid holdovers is pointless

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 6, 2013 10:27 am

– 33 – 30 Eagles
– We shove it down their throat. Lots of scoring on the ground. Even Brown ends up with a TD.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 6, 2013 11:14 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

tsjohnson5, there is just something sexy about you saying the Eagles are going to shove it down their throat! With that being said,
I think the Giants are to banged up, even with the home advantage and desperation factor to win. Even with the Eagles short comings, I believe they will win today. Not so much a reflection of the Eagles ability talent wise. More so a reflection of the Giants current personnel and injuries.

jakedog
jakedog
October 6, 2013 12:13 pm

Hey eaglhaslsnded, back off, Johnson is jakedogs sexy bitch

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 6, 2013 12:23 pm
Reply to  jakedog

Lol, I’m sure she’ll find your jealousy flattering. Back to football…

lewdoggie20
lewdoggie20
October 6, 2013 12:34 pm

the giant killers will play big today….jackson and shady win it early both going over 120 yards today and 2 scores in a 37-27 win.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 1:29 pm

Pass 1: Overthrow deep to Jackson (had all day)
Pass 2: Throw deep into double coverage to Jackson (blitz was picked up had all day
Pass 3: Short throw to Jackson (had all day)
Pass 4: Overthrow deep to Ertz (had all day)

Deep…deep…depp…Jackson…Jackson….Jackson

I thought that was Andy Reid’s fault.

Oh wait….Vick just had a big scramble, so he’s an all-pro now.

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 1:30 pm

new plan, let’s just get the defense off the field, trade them all away for more offensive weapons and see if we can score on every drive as needed. There’s no reason to bother putting it out there anyway.

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 1:42 pm

Ok d… lets get something going here. We need more than a run game O. Lets go.

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 1:43 pm

Thats a safety if he regains his run like he did.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 1:45 pm

I still love how its the “high octane eagles”.

When they have 0 passing yards this quarter.

Zero.

Completions?

Zero.

All-pro.

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 1:48 pm

Great job D. Ok… lets go o.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 1:49 pm

Listen man…the D has given up a td in a quarter. It happens.

The Eagles O, Led by Vick, has 0 pass completions.

If not for 2 15 yrd penalties, they wouldn’t have any points.

But keep blaming the defense while the quarterback is pathetic.

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2013 1:49 pm

Well at least Vick has not turned over the Ball yet..
I see Nicks with a big game so far..
Weather is way too nice today to waste my time watching these 2 garbage Teams that aren’t going anywhere..
Keep me posted what happens, going hiking on a beautiful Fall day here in the Blue Ridge Mtns .. Enjoy..

DCar
DCar
October 6, 2013 1:50 pm

This entire organization, is a f^#@ing joke!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 1:53 pm

40 yrd line….good f position….D did their job…..game is right here.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 1:54 pm

Vick just dumped it off to McCoy!! That’s weird.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 2:02 pm

e’s open on the corner route and……

oh….that’s weird.

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2013 2:09 pm

Surprised Jelky Kelly didn’t go for the 2 point Conversion right there..

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 2:17 pm

Great job by the D. They are making something of the miscues of the Giants.

They need to punch these in.

DCar
DCar
October 6, 2013 2:17 pm

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out, that these 2 teams, absolutely suck Tyrannosaurus nuts! Between them, & the Jags, they could be 1-3, in next years draft. If the Gnats weren’t SOOO bad, they’d be killing us, with not being able to score in the RZ! Pathetic!!!!!!!!

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 2:24 pm

Vinnie- try rooting for “your team”. Noone is rooting for the giants today more than you. Do you realize that everyone not named pompoms wishes your honor your bet. You are a troll.

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 2:25 pm
Reply to  Stevo

*you’d

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2013 2:24 pm

Another FG, Eagkes will end up losing and everyone will harp on how the Defense sucks, meanwhile the Eagles Offense should have put the game away already if they were any good ..

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 2:26 pm
Reply to  paulman

Agree about the D. They are doing well this week. So far.. this is on the O. Mostly on Vick for not hitting the wide open Wrs

DCar
DCar
October 6, 2013 2:28 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Would be nice, if the f^#@ing WR’s knew how to catch, also! Vick hurt again! Right around the game I predicted. GTFO, I’m disgusted!!!!

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 2:26 pm

Lets go foles

DCar
DCar
October 6, 2013 2:30 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Vinnie & Jake are probably rubbing one off! ROTFLMMFAO!!!!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 2:29 pm

if vick is hurt….why do you call a pass on the first play with less than 2 mins to go in the half??

DCar
DCar
October 6, 2013 2:30 pm

Because he’s “The Genius!”

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 2:34 pm

Beautiful drive

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 2:34 pm

Good first half for the birds. Good job foles taking what u were givin and leading us down for a fg.

2nd half… run run run.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 2:35 pm

Best play. 1st and 10 at the 50 and its an all out blitz.

Beautiful lob to Brown for 5 yards. Perfect counter to a blitz.

daggolden
daggolden
October 6, 2013 2:41 pm

Vinnie im man enough to admit it i was wrong. Its time for Foles. Just his presence is better. If Chip doesnt see this he is blind. Im 100% behind Foles.

daggolden
daggolden
October 6, 2013 2:42 pm

Time for all Eagles fans to unite behind Foles. Its time. Ive seen enough.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 6, 2013 5:12 pm
Reply to  daggolden

lol.

Yeah. Spotted 16 points and 3 interceptions. Foles is the future. lol

paulman
paulman
October 6, 2013 9:40 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Didn’t Vick get 3 Turnovers in the first 6 plays versus the Redskins in Week #1 for Vick’s only Victory in 2013.. Can you get off Vick’s balls already..
It’s really be one annoying.. Can’t you hust be glad thay the Eagłes Won a F’n Game ..

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 2:47 pm

I am 100% behind the coach and this eagles team. I dint care who the qb is… i want wins.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
October 6, 2013 3:03 pm

I love Vick cause he can turn nothing into something but foles gives us little bit more than he does

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 3:03 pm

Oh…Jackson and McCoy both dropped good balls.

I’ll be like a Vick fan now and say that Foles would be an all-pro except for the fact that his wrs stink.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 3:04 pm

oh…I guess McCoy didn’t drop it.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 3:14 pm

need a drive for a fg (at least) here

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 3:17 pm

We are now in trouble.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 3:19 pm

Why is brown the rb?

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 3:26 pm

Lots and lots of trouble

DCar
DCar
October 6, 2013 3:39 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Stevo, you just figuring that out now?!?!? They started the season in major trouble! BTW, Jenkins & Patterson playing like HOFers. Patterson has made more plays today, than he did his entire Eagles career. POS!!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 3:30 pm

That was a terribly weak call on Boykin…oh well, lets see what the kid can do with some adveristy

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 3:33 pm

Do love that he just sees the matchup and throws it…saw 1 n 1 desean and threw right away (pass int)…saw 1 on 1 cooper and just overthrew in endzonne.

decisive

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 6, 2013 4:40 pm

LMAO!!!

Foles was holding onto the ball FOREVER. Largely b/c the w/r were still not getting open…so please stop with the “decisive” throws.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 3:37 pm

decent drive.

DCar
DCar
October 6, 2013 3:40 pm

WHOA!!! A Sopoaga sighting! POS!!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 3:43 pm

Since Foles took over:

23 passes

6 runs

Good thing I’ll be able to use the run/pass ratio to defend Foles if the Birds lose.

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 3:45 pm

Ok d… we need ya to keep up.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 6, 2013 3:48 pm

Oh…avant just dropped an easy one. Foles is all-pro.

Stevo
Stevo
October 6, 2013 3:53 pm

Wheew
Thank god. Good throw and catch