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What Happened When Nick Foles Went Into The Game: Part 1

Just like everyone else I wondered what happened when Nick Foles came into the Giants game to get the offense moving.  Was he doing something different from what Vick was doing or was it something else?   After looking at the tape of the game, I saw numerous factors which changed when Foles came into the game.  Some of those factors involved him trying to get the ball out of his hands as quickly as possible and some of them didn’t involve him.  Let’s take a look at how he led them downfield on a long scoring drive before the half.

On the first play when Foles went into the game with one minutes and 25 seconds to go in the first half and the ball on the Eagles seven-yard line, he was fortunate to have LeSean McCloy running an option route against Giants linebacker, Spencer Paysinger.  As you might expect it was no contest.  McCoy shook Paysinger and got open coming inside.  Foles got the ball to him for a nine-yard gain.  The key to the play was having McCoy matched up against the linebacker and he was running an option route.

Another key was the fact that Foles was wise enough to know that this was his best matchup.

The Eagles should do more of this.  If they’re facing man-to-man coverage and DeSean Jackson is being doubled, the best matchup they have with Jason Avant, Riley Cooper, Brent Celek and McCoy in there as the other eligible receivers is McCoy against the linebacker.  Those other three receivers haven’t been winning their one-on-one battles to get open all season long.

On the next play with a minute and two seconds to go on the clock before the half, McCoy ran the ball up the middle for two yards to the eighteen yard line.  Things didn’t look good at this point in the Birds scoring before the half.

Now with the ball on the 18 yard line and 48 seconds to go before the half, Foles hit Jason Avant on a short out route for five yards.  Avant lined up off the line of scrimmage, just inside of tight end Brent Celek.  At the snap of the ball, Avant ran upfield on an angle toward the sideline.  The guy who was covering him was lined up about seven yards off the ball, while the guy covering Celek was in press position, therefore the guy covering Avant couldn’t avoid getting picked by Celek and the guy who was covering him.

It would seem like an accident or coincidence to a novice that Celek just happened to get in the was of the guy who was covering Avant, but this was no coincidence, this was a pick play.   It got Avant open for a five yard gain, plus he went out of bounds to stop the clock.

One thing that jumps out at you about Foles is that he’s ready to get the ball out of his hands.  He didn’t come into the game looking for anything deep.  The youngster was intent on getting the ball out of his hands and taking what the defense gave him.

On the next play with the ball on the 23-yard line and 43 seconds to go in the half, Foles threw a short pass to McCoy on the right sideline.  He ran an arrow route, caught the football and headed out of bounds for a one-yard gain, but he was able to stop the clock. again.

Now the ball was on the 24-yard line with only 38 seconds to play in the first half.  Foles dropped back and hit McCoy on an arrow route for a 12 yard gain.  McCoy looked like he was running an option route on the linebacker, Jacquian Williams.  On an option route, McCoy has the option of going inside or outside.  You’ve got to give Foles credit for getting the ball out of his hands immediately.

He might have identified the best matchup for the Eagles offense when he came to the line of scrimmage and that was probably the reason he was ready to get the ball to McCoy when the running back came open.  One of the keys to quarterbacking is being able to anticipate what’s going to happen.  This was a brilliant decision by Foles.

McCoy went out of bounds after making the catch, so the clocked was again stopped, this time with 31 seconds to go in the half.  The pass to McCoy was a huge play for the Birds.  Now they had the ball on their own 36 yard line.

With 31 seconds to go in the half, Foles dropped back and hit rookie Zach Ertz in the middle of the field for a 14 yard gain.  It was a low throw, but Ertz was able to go down on the ground and make the catch.  The play design had DeSean Jackson going on a shallow cross in front of the New York linebackers from the Eagles right to the left side of the field.

It’s hard to decipher what type of defense the Giants were in because some New York defenders were playing zone, while others were playing man-to-man.  After the play, the Eagles used their first timeout of the half.

Now they had the ball on the 50 yard line with 26 seconds to go on the clock.  The Giants tried to blitz Foles on the next play and the second-year quarterback was ready for it.  With Mathias Kiwenuka turned loose and rushing in his face, Foles calmly threw the ball over the pass rusher’s head to running back Bryce Brown, who had run a short arrow route outside into the flat.  Brown caught the football and was tackled immediately by New York safety Will Hill.

Foles doesn’t panic when he recognizes the blitz.  He could have thrown the ball harder to Brown and he may have been able to make a move on Hill, but Foles should be praised for making the right decision against the blitz.

After Brown was tackled, the Birds used their second time out of the first half.  They now had the ball on the 44 yard-line with only 19 seconds to play in the first half.

Foles didn’t have of a chance to do much on the next play.  He was under instant pressure when he dropped into the pocket on the next play.  Giants defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul was offside on the play and he came flying in there to put a good hit on Foles.  Even with the pressure, Foles was cool under fire.  He rolled to his right a few steps and threw the ball in the direction of DeSean Jackson, who was running a short comeback route on the right side.

The pass fell incomplete, but because of the penalty on Pierre-Paul the Birds were now on the Giants 39-yard line.

Foles dropped back on the next play with only 15 seconds to go in the half and immediately threw the ball long on the right side.  DeSean Jackson was getting jammed and unable to get free deep on a go route, so Foles threw it away. This was a brilliant move because he saved enough time on the play to give the Eagles the chance run two additional plays.  He looked to his left and didn’t like what he saw, so without hesitation he threw the ball out of bounds on the right side far over Jackson’s head.

On the next play, Foles did something which was extraordinary  as a quarterback in a make it or break it situation with the clock ticking down and only a split second to make a decision.  DeSean Jackson was having some problems getting off the jam on the right side of the formation.  The defensive back got a good jam on him and was on his inside in good position, but Foles threw Jackson open on the throw.  He threw the ball outside of Jackson toward the sideline where only Jackson could get to it.  Jackson was looking back for the ball over his left shoulder, but he saw the ball released and was able to turn back to his right side with the ball in the air.

Foles put some air under the ball so that Jackson had time enough to change to looking back over his left shoulder to looking back over his right shoulder and catch the football before running out of bounds.

The Eagles were now on the Giants 26-yard line with four seconds to go on the clock.  Alex Henery came in and booted an easy 38 yard field goal to put the Eagles ahead by a 19-7 score.

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eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 9, 2013 9:59 am

Genius! who designed those plays, genius.

jakedog
jakedog
October 9, 2013 10:08 am

Gcobb calling foles play “brilliant”, “extraordinary”…….but I thought he may make a good back up and doesn’t have “it”, damn now I’m really confused, I better talk to tsjohnson, she’ll straighten all this out

Stevo
Stevo
October 9, 2013 10:17 am

Good breakdown G. Now… about he new ads that pop up over where you want to write… not a fan.

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2013 10:29 am

“but Foles threw Jackson open on the throw. He threw the ball outside of Jackson toward the sideline where only Jackson could get to it. Jackson was looking back for the ball over his left shoulder, but he saw the ball released and was able to turn back to his right side with the ball in the air.”

I have NEVER heard anyone say Mike Vick open EVER in 10+ years of his career.

I have heard many of gcobb vick knobber slobberers say QBs cant throw WR open though. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

im very confused too

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 9, 2013 10:38 am

Was a very good performance but it was against a pretty bad NYG defense, so wont get carried away. Though it was better than the ‘starter’ was doing. In fact, we’ve now seen Foles, through last year and this, perform better than the starter….but hey, who’s paying attention to that…Vick “Won the Job!!”

Still, love what I saw (especially on that drive) for a young QB with only 6 starts.

In fact, we’ve now seen Foles 3x in this situation (final drive of a 4th Q or half) and he has done very well on all 3.

1 – comeback final drive vs TB. Touchdown.

2 – Comeback drive vs Wsh – marched team whole field and made a perfect throw to a te who dropped it…with a broken hand no less.

3 – comes in on the 7 yrd line…(and 2nd down!) and orchestrates a very nice 1:20 fg drive.

Kid is cool under pressure. Bodes well.

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2013 10:59 am

coolest thing about mike vick is his brothers twitter account imo

DonP
DonP
October 9, 2013 11:06 am

Difference between Foles and Vick is obvious Foles has quicker release,reads defense better and makes better decisions and physicaly sees field better cause hes lot taller.Will he be their qb of the future I dont know but I do know these are the differences i see between both qbs. Personally I think you will see TE get more involved this wk because foles is playing and he can get ball out quicker and read defense faster and better than vick. My guess is you will start to see the tes used alot now if foles was in instead vick

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2013 11:35 am
Reply to  DonP

Also that Foles is a half of foot taller (6ft-5″) to Vick’s (5ft-11″) and can see over the line of scrimmage and the fact that he throws the ball with a nice arc on it since he has a more traditional release point of passing the ball (from his right ear-hole) while Vick has a tendency to drop his arm to just above his shoulder level (which becomes closer to a 5ft-6″ Height) and throws a from a lower plane and more of a line-drive type of toss..instead of the higher-arcing passes that Foles releases which allow a QB to throw to a spot and let the Receiver run “open” to the ball as we saw with both the Celek & D-Jax TD Receptions last week..

Xevious
Xevious
October 9, 2013 11:37 am

Excellent article G. Nice to see you point this stuff out since you played the game professionally for so long. I personally think it was even more impressive being Foles wasn’t even warmed up. Good Stuff.

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2013 11:48 am
Reply to  Xevious

Good Point Xevious,
Many Fans simply don’t realize that Back-Up QB’s and Back-Up Players, in general, don’t take too many snaps during the 2 & 1/2 Days of Practice a Team gets in between Games.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:04 pm
Reply to  paulman

Foles gets many more snaps than the average backup QB during the week. I recall a press conference with Kelly where he said exactly that…

paulman
paulman
October 9, 2013 12:42 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

I have heard Kelly state that in the past and believe that Kelly is smart enough to relaize that Vick or any QB running his Offense is succeptible to injury and should work his back-up Skill Players (QB’s,RB’sWR’s) with the Starters more often, so a good point there RT777..
(at least I would hope he does, just common sense of a Coaching Staff)

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 1:05 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paulman, I think it also has to do with the pace of the practices. More plays ran in practice more snaps…

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:03 pm

Lets address some double standards here…Some of you guys are getting carried away…The drive at the end of the half by Foles was most definitely good work…But it still resulted in 3 pts…Had that been the starting QB, it would not have been good enough for some of you clowns…how many drives has Vick led, that if broken down like this in this article would you hear words like “extraordinary”…Foles did some good things in the game verse the Giants. I was very impressed with how he didn’t press/panic when the Giants came back and took the lead. The drive to end the half was most definitely good work by Foles.

Somethings that stuck out to me about this article…
Foles was fortunate to have LeSean McCloy running an option route against Giants linebacker, Spencer Paysinger” fortunate? and “Eagles should do more of this” more o this?
To me the play calling sequence may have played a role into 3 points…

But I’d also like to point out, the drive to start the 4th qtr Foles went 0-3 (3 incompletions in a row)…had that been Vick, we’d hear about how terrible of QB he is…or even in the 3rd quarter when the Eagles took back the lead with a FG…Foles wasn’t all that impressive…

Start of 4th Quarter
1st and 10 at PHI 36 (No Huddle, Shotgun) N.Foles pass incomplete short left to J.Avant.
2nd and 10 at PHI 36 (No Huddle, Shotgun) N.Foles pass incomplete deep right to J.Avant [J.Hankins].
3rd and 10 at PHI 36 (No Huddle, Shotgun) N.Foles pass incomplete short right [S.Paysinger].
4th and 10 at PHI 36 (Punt formation) PENALTY on PHI-B.Graham, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at PHI 36 – No Play.

3rd Qtr Field Goal
1st and 10 at PHI 20 (No Huddle, Shotgun) N.Foles pass incomplete deep right to D.Jackson. PENALTY on NYG-P.Amukamara, Defensive Pass Interference, 27 yards, enforced at PHI 20 – No Play.
1st and 10 at PHI 47 (No Huddle, Shotgun) N.Foles pass short middle to J.Avant to NYG 31 for 22 yards (W.Hill).
1st and 10 at NYG 31 (No Huddle, Shotgun) N.Foles pass incomplete deep left to R.Cooper.
2nd and 10 at NYG 31 (No Huddle, Shotgun) L.McCoy left guard to NYG 27 for 4 yards (R.Mundy).
3rd and 6 at NYG 27 (No Huddle, Shotgun) N.Foles pass short left to D.Jackson to NYG 20 for 7 yards (P.Amukamara).
1st and 10 at NYG 20 (No Huddle, Shotgun) N.Foles pass incomplete short right [M.Kiwanuka].
2nd and 10 at NYG 20 (No Huddle, Shotgun) N.Foles pass incomplete short right to D.Jackson.
3rd and 10 at NYG 20 (No Huddle, Shotgun) N.Foles sacked at NYG 23 for -3 yards (sack split by C.Jenkins and M.Kiwanuka).

noticing a lot of imcomplete passes throwing deep.

Overall, Foles did a good job coming in…Final result was an Eagles win, so I’m happy…bottom line…

Stevo
Stevo
October 9, 2013 12:12 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

i also laughed at “extraordinary”.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2013 12:15 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

dude he had a 2nd and 10 from the shadows of his own endzone and drove for a FG as a vick non-supporter I would have been thrilled had 7 driven for a FG –ANY fan that understands football knows that with less than 2 minutes and 2 yards to go a FG is a great drive so STFU with that one!
People (at least not me) don’t point to specific plays to say how a good a QB is because by that standard vick makes plenty of outstanding plays– the problem i have with your idol is simply a track record of mediocre results.
You have just documented all of Foles incomplete passes you could do that for any QB– I”m sure vinnie will reply with all of vicks incomplete passes– either scenaroio is assinine!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:16 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

yes, Vick has never driven the field and got 3 points…you’re so right…again you totally miss the point of my comment…”double standards” being the two key words, you dumb ass!

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2013 12:19 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

i never said he didn’t drive a team for 3 points at the end of a half??? wtf are you talking about?

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:23 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

my post was based on double standards…or do you not understand what that means!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:26 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

you mad because I’m not speaking all positives about Foles…I see…I give him his credit when credit is due…which can’t be said for you clowns who shit on Vick at every possible opportunity.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2013 12:16 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

‘and 2 yards’ was meant to be 90 yards to go

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2013 12:25 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

whats the double standard I am not following?

Mike vick was on the first play of 1st and 10 from our own 7 then chip pulled him and foles wasnt even warm. then foles went 75 yards in 1 min 33 seconds to kick a field goal. i dont understand.

if vick did that that would be good enough for me. if you are trying to call out someone with double standards why dont you address them?

and regarding foles incomplete passes, lmfao. we are comparing foles to vick. vick didnt complete a pass 1st qtr and 6 in two quarters end of story

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:26 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I wouldn’t expect your dumb ass to understand!

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2013 12:31 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

stupid point by a stupid cunt who cant back up anything he says. a classic example of you being a jackass idiot who doesnt know shit who feels the need to stick up for mike vick.

also a classic example of why you are trash. someone questions your post and you respond with 5 year old name calling – text book definition of trash

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:38 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I am what you don’t get, I guess! its funny how you sit hear calling me all types of names, but I’m trash…you’re a clown! got a problem with me then “see me then”…

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2013 1:07 pm
Reply to  mhenski

yea youre trash and i gotta stoop to your trash level to help you understand that. and from your response i can tell you got it

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:30 pm
Reply to  mhenski

6 of 8 in the 2nd qtr to be exact…
no other QB in NFL history has started off a game 0-5 or anything like that…The Eagles also didn’t move the ball at all in the 1st quarter, right?
Perfect, example of double standard…its magnified because its Vick, and you guys love to hate Vick…I get it…

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2013 12:39 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

do i see another threat of violent behavior at 12:38?

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2013 1:12 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

yep i hate mike vicks game he has been a loser for 10+ years and a below average qb for 10+ years and is currently a bottom 10 qb and on top of that i know my team that i root for can never move forward until he is gone

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 2:34 pm
Reply to  mhenski

true, we’ve been fortunate to have won 10 SB’s in our storied history…you sound dumber with every post!

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2013 2:57 pm
Reply to  mhenski

no we didnt win 10 super bowls idiot

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2013 2:57 pm
Reply to  mhenski

your sarcasm is almost as bad as your trash temper.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:18 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

how about your old ass make me STFU

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2013 12:19 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

internet thug wouldn’t the kids you mentor and coach be disappointed at the threat of violence?

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:22 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

don’t worry about my kids…this is between myself a man…and you a so called man..

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2013 12:23 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

men don’t settle things with violence unreal– you know that

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:27 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

instead they solve things with telling someone to STFU over the net…I get it…

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:18 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

ghost can post whatever nonsense he wants…I stopped reading his bullshit when I retired his ass a month ago!

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2013 12:31 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

yes two friendly rivals can say stfu (in these internet days) when they are bs.ing about sports when in reality none of it means a thing yes that is true– but violence among men is typically done amongst low class, uneducated scumbags

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:35 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

haha…you don’t come off as friendly to me…

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2013 12:38 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

unreal the other day you asked me if i had ever said anything kind about vick– i listed at least 8 things possitive I have said on this site– you didn’t respond–
i am extremely friendly but i don’t worship other grown men the way some on here worship 7… he has a track record of mediocrity as a player, he was a first pick bust–‘ the child has grown, the dream is gone’

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 12:53 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

ha…I get that and that is your opinion you are entitled to. Me for one, believe that he can get it done and want to see him succeed. You know I mentor kids, and that’s a big reason as to why I support Vick, because I can relate..I don’t believe he gets a fair shake and many of the problems with him is due to his past…my double standard comment is a prime example…Vick gets flack for the same shit that other QB’s have done in the NFL…and yes, some of the QB’s are the greatest that play today…I’m certain Brees has started a game 0-5 or 1-6 Brady and possibly even Peyton Manning in his career…But when it comes to 7, its over blown…

From here on out, I’ll keep it friendly between you and myself…

greenfan
greenfan
October 9, 2013 1:36 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

@RT777…you state
“You know I mentor kids, and that’s a big reason as to why I support Vick, because I can relate..I don’t believe he gets a fair shake and many of the problems with him is due to his past…my double standard comment is a prime example…Vick gets flack for the same shit that other QB’s have done in the NFL…and yes, some of the QB’s are the greatest that play today…I’m certain Brees has started a game 0-5 or 1-6 Brady and possibly even Peyton Manning in his career…But when it comes to 7, its over blown”

Mentoring kids is important, hopefully you get your anger out on this blog, and don’t share that trait with the kids.

More to your “double statement” comment….I also tend to be an optimist when it comes to players on my favorite team, and truely hope that whenever they are playing, that they do the best possible….however, please understand that the player that you are supporting is a 10 year professional…with a history of play and relatively poor win-loss and playoff results…..those other QB’s may get more of a break when dealing with a poor performance because they have all had a great deal us win-loss success, and in fact of the ones you listed, they have all won a SB.

You can call it a double standard, but talk to the people in Baltimore who still criticize Flacco….the guy has won a SB but when he has a poor game they are all over him….I don’t think it is a double standard as much as the “backup QB syndrome”….the backup QB is always talked about when the team does not win, it is the first place that fans go when the team isn’t doing well…..look at Dallas this week, Romo threw for over 500 yards and only 1 int..but that 1 int cost them the game….Romo has not had playoff success either, so I am sure there are many Cowgirls fans who are looking for a change at QB….it is more human nature than double standard..IMAO

DCar
DCar
October 9, 2013 1:42 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

hac, what about your Ruin 2morrow worship? You worshipped him, excused him, argued for him, & made nothing but excuses for him for 2 years now. He has a track record of mediocrity since he took the wheel. No offense there hac, but a little hypocritical don’t you think? If you took the same stance on all of the irrational arguments, that you lost to me about him, as you do with the Eagles, you would have more credibility. Just saying. Sorry. 😀

pheags88
pheags88
October 9, 2013 12:45 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Disagree Realtalk. If Tj Yates, who has a couple of games of experience I believe, starts next week for Houston and throws a pick 6 do you think the fans would be at his house trying to kill him? Do you think the media would make a big deal about his interception like they do about Shaub, who has a history of mediocre play? Its not a double standard. Its NFL reality that many on here cant see. For the most part, Young players do not look like vets, vets should not look like young players.

And I think all the Eagles fans would be happy if you get any points there at the end of the half with that time left and at that spot on the field regardless who the QB was. Its just not reasonable to expect a TD in that spot even if you have Peyton.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 1:10 pm
Reply to  pheags88

My man, pheags88 wuts good….Ok…So how do you think Vick has looked this season…Is he a reason to why the Eagles are 2nd in the league in total offense? 8th in points? Is he the reason why the Eagles have lost games? you know many on here, believe so…When I and others stated the defense needed to play better, we were labeled as vickpologists…even heard Vick was the reason we didn’t win the SD game…do you believe so? I understand if Vick is leading the league in turnovers, not producing points…then yea, I may even want his ass to sit down too…but in my eyes he’s been very productive….

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2013 1:15 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

nobody on here ever said vick was the reason we lost against the chargers. lets not tell lies. it was said that he was the reason we didnt win though

pheags88
pheags88
October 9, 2013 3:39 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Realtalk, you changed the topic without answering my question but ill answer yours. Vick is having the season I pretty much expected him to have. He makes some big plays but also some plays that a vet should be able to make in his sleep. IMO the most important numbers for a QB, besides whats on the score board, is what they do on 3rd down, what they do in the redzone, and if they can start 16 games. I believe Vick was last in the league on 3rd down going into the game and he looks bad in the redzone, even tho he got a new coach. In regard to the Chargers game, when you lose close games you look at the crucial moments in game. When you have 1st and 10 on SD 14, I except a vet to score the TD there with all that time left, esp when you defense is struggling. Instead not only did Vick not get it done, he got hurt and was unavailable. So I really dont give a damn what you do if you cant get it done in the crucial spots. Romo played like a HOFer against Denver but couldn’t get it done at the end. he got the same criticisms from the fans, thats just the reality of the nFL.

And Vick is hurt again for the millionth time. Its pathetic when Eagles fan can basically see the future and call the time your going to get injured. A lot of people on here said he would get injured after 3-4 games and he did. So I don’t even need to take into account the mediocre talent when this dude cant stay healthy. You will go nowhere with the most injury prone QB in the league. Making Vick the starter of your football team is like the Sixers making Greg Oden their franchise player.

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2013 3:50 pm
Reply to  pheags88

“Realtalk, you changed the topic without answering my question but ill answer yours.”

Thats what people who talk out there ass do.

Thats what people who troll people do. Rather than engage in discussion they make their arguments as then they leave and never consider other opinions.

Thats what people do when they feel they need to stick up for a man rather than look analytically at that man’s position and see where he measures up compared to his colleagues.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 5:10 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I’ll stomp a mud hole in yours…that’s for sure…you and the “ghost” I hate the most on this site…aren’t you trolling right now…what comment of substance have you made in the last year on GCobb…? not a damn one…clown

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 9, 2013 5:06 pm
Reply to  pheags88

Romo threw a pick to seal his team’s fate a big difference…you’re of the same cloth as the rest of them…you don’t like Vick…Oden and Vick comparison is ridiculous, as well…Also I never changed the subject. I stated I see your point about vets and young players…what was Foles numbers in the redzone…he threw 1 TD…Vick has also thrown TD’s prior to the redzone, like the one to Celek….in the past all you heard, especially this off season, was Vick will turn the ball over…Vick can’t read blitz…guess what teams aren’t blitzing the Eagles that much this season…wonder why? because maybe Vick is doing better against the blitz than you and others expected…?

pheags88
pheags88
October 9, 2013 12:08 pm

I thought there was no evidence of Foles throwing his WRs open?? at least thats what I was hearing from the fraud fans on here who are completely delusional. Now G says the same things many of us were saying and the embarrassment continues for those frauds lmao.

Anyway Im liking these articles G, good work. I would like to see us use the screen game more with McCoy, Brown. Maybe we will see that more in the game plan this week if they know Foles is going to start since throwing/selling the screen is not one of Vick strengths. As you explained on the blitz play, the touch Foles had on that throw was really good. If that was the shorter Vick, it would of probably been a batted ball (assuming he would have actually read the blitz which is a big assumption considering his history of not being good at it).

Can we get one of these articles in regard to the safety play. I know Nate Allen is terrible and deserves to start an NFL game as much as Tim Tebow does but I swear this guy is always out of position 99% of the time.

mhenski
mhenski
October 9, 2013 1:16 pm
Reply to  pheags88

oh yea haaaaaaaaaaaa

tsjohnson – “which wr did foles throw open, which one”…….. haaaaaaaaaaaaa

i responded which one didnt he throw open….

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2013 4:14 pm

DCAR I didn’t or don’t worship him those were your ALL CAPS $&@!?$& rants.i simply pointed out that I thought he did a good job putting together the 2011 Phil’s and because of the state of the game had to try to keep a run going and could not break it up. It did not work out as things don’t most times in sports. I never excused him for many of his moves but understand from a business of baseball perspective. And praised many of them even though some of those moves really turned out to bite them this year in particular doc.
Contracts in baseball inevitably bite all the major market teams … You over pay to make your run… Check out most superstar contracts and it’s plain obvious. Again worship was your over the top ‘I’m always right and if you don’t see it my way you are a Pom Pom waiver’ and if you don’t agree wih me I’ll go ALL CAPS and $&@)?$&@)(? On your ass.

DCar
DCar
October 9, 2013 11:48 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

LOL! RIIIIIGHT!

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 10, 2013 7:59 am
Reply to  DCar

see ALL CAPS!

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 9, 2013 4:23 pm

And DCAR 2009, 2010, 2011 we’re not mediocre and he made huge moves all of those years. I do understand that they didn’t win the WS I get it but mediocre… I and anyone that pays attention will not see it that way .
2009 ibanez 272, 34, 93 ( I hope we find a 2014 version like this), martinez 5-1 down the stretch.
2010… Doc
11 pence ( didn’t work out but to a man we all loved it) and lee
There was some great ball those years

DCar
DCar
October 10, 2013 12:13 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Huge moves? Doc, I never had an issue with. Any GM, could have pulled that off. But you refused to & still do, admit when he got Doc, that it was a disgrace, & a lie, with the whole Lee debacle! He should have never been traded. He was under contract for $9M, & said he would have re-signed for less, than what we signed him in FA for. Also, we got hot garbage, in return, for an ACE pitcher! Then, he was forced to admit to his failure, of letting Lee go, by wasting a 3 year contract, on mediocre Fatboy Blanton, & having to trade for a useless, damaged goods Oswalt. None of those circumstances had to happen, or should have happened, & I said it, along with 3/4 of the fan-base, when it happened. So don’t start with your hindsight crap, like you always do! Ibanez was a see-saw player, who gave us a 1/2 of a good year, with mediocre DF, & WAS NOT an upgrade, nor replacement for Burrell. Give me a break. He never replaced Werth. He never replaced the Flying Hawaiian. I loved the Pence move, but it was a disaster trading him, & for him, for what we traded, & got back. It’s convenient, that you mention 1-2 moves that Ruin 2morrow made, that were no-brainers, but don’t mention any of his 100 failures, that you refuse to call him on the carpet for! You STILL, are a pom-pom waving irrational apologist, that lives a world of denial. Like I said, you are a hypocrite. You rip guys on here about the Birds, but do the exact same $#!T about the Phils & Ruin 2morrow. You’re a fraud, & always have been. I may go on rants, & use symbols, because I don’t want to spell out curse words, but I always tell the truth, I know WTF I’m talking about, I am correct mostly all of the time, & I’m capable of using my brain. I always tell it like it is, non-biased, non-tainted by the brainwash of the media, & FO spin-masters, like some of you lemming, pom-pom waving, bow down at the alter imbeciles. So you can keep living in denial, & irrationally argue all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact, that you don’t know WTF you are talking about. You are a hypocrite, refuse to admit you are/ were wrong, are still in denial, & STILL know nothing, about everything. So, be prepared to suck for the foreseeable future, until the Corporate .300 club, use their Alzheimer ridden brains, & ax the useless, inept GM, who you lap dog to.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 10, 2013 8:05 am
Reply to  DCar

ibanez averaged 24 hr, 85 rbi and 265 for three years you are the delusional one to say that isn’t a good everyday player DEFUCKINGLUSIONAL. the first lee trade blew… always said it always will…. his numbers and defense were very burrell like
you sir are the fraud, you sir a supposedly successful grown man has threatened violence on another and actually even went to the meeting place where said confrontation was to take place. You are not much better then Unreal, a little better spoken, better vocabulary but in the end a thug and fraud. and again just because YOU say it doesn’t make it the truth!

DCar
DCar
October 10, 2013 1:36 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

RIIIIIGHT! Why did I threaten that said person, who is mhenski, you moron? Because I was called a p*$$y by him, & my dead mother was brought into a conversation, all because he disagreed with me. So that makes me a fraud & a thug, for defending myself, & my family like a real man? That said person, is the wannabe internet thug, & you a faggot know nothing fraud, who is irrational, delusional, & STILL can’t admit he was wrong, & STILL can’t admit that his boyfriend Ruin 2morrow is an imbecile, & the ruination of this franchise, that will be setback for years! There ain’t nothing delusional about me. I am brutally honest, truthful, correct, & bring up facts, all of the time! So do what you do best, make futile attempts to make me look bad, spin things with your hypocrisy, excuse ineptness, argue irrationally, with zero facts, refuse to be wrong, except failure & mediocrity, & keep waving your pom-poms, like the hypocritical lemming you are! That’s what you are awesome at! At the end of the day, what I said, predicted, & suggested was always correct, & you were proven WRONG! Have a nice day, havenoclue.

mhenski
mhenski
October 10, 2013 2:17 pm
Reply to  DCar

hacs attempts are futile in making you look bad compared to the way you make yourself look bad.

DCar
DCar
October 11, 2013 12:18 am
Reply to  mhenski

Coming from the punk himself, that calls women names, & tries to be a tough-guy, over the internet. Please Nancy, I already dealt with your punk @$$. Go back in your closet, where you & your boyfriend havenoclue belong.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 10, 2013 2:22 pm
Reply to  DCar

‘i am honest, truthful and correct’— and huge internet ego—
i wasn’t proven wrong– just because things don’t work in sports doesn’t mean it was wrong– as the three sport star, almost professional baseball player you were i’m sure you went through times where things went horribley wrong– or maybe you won championships in all your sports in all your years. maybe everyone who played on your teams never got hurt, always produced at their highest levels your coaches always pushed the right buttons… you are a frustrated blow hard! that is brutally honest, truthful and correct

DCar
DCar
October 11, 2013 12:29 am
Reply to  haveacigar

RIIIIIGHT! Blah, Blah, Blah! I’m so hurt by your comments. BOO HOO! Please son, you don’t know $#!T, you ain’t $#!T, & never will be! Excuses, excuses, & verbal diarrhea, is all you are good for. Frustrated blow hard?? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! You don’t know $#!T about my life douche nozzle. I don’t have one ounce of frustration with my current life, nor any regrets. Just because I don’t tolerate, nor except ineptness, stupidity, mediocrity, & condescending, scumbag, FO people, like some of you brainless lemmings do, doesn’t make me wrong, nor frustrated. I don’t have patience, nor tolerance for stupid, ill-advised, brainless, biased, zombie lemmings like you, who only think you’re a fan, if you wave pom-poms, without criticism. I know how to use my brain on my own, & don’t get brainwashed by the media & FO spin-machines, like you stepford lemmings do. So, go back to your so-called pristine life, that you bragged about, with your pure, untouched, perfect children, & your so-called retired coaching/ referee life. GTFO, you fraud loser. Take your boyfriend mhenski with you.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 11, 2013 7:04 am
Reply to  DCar

Wow you should show your shrink that rant… Wow intelligent thoughtful dialogue. Frustrated internet blow hard. You have shared much of your life on here so it is open to all. Frustrated blow hard

DCar
DCar
October 11, 2013 12:58 pm
Reply to  DCar

Again, you know nothing, ill-informed, fraud, loser, you spew your verbal diarrhea, & false accusations, after you lose your irrational arguments, & have nothing else left to say. Pretty amusing, & pathetic at the same time. LOL! Keep up the good work, imbecile. I’ll keep living my fulfilled life, while you keep on living in La La land, for the delusional, irrational, & the intellectual inept hypocrites.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 9, 2013 5:19 pm

Vick in 7 on 7s today.

Fantastic.

Soooo excited to see an immobile Vick playing QB this weekend.

Will be so comical.

Guy is lowest in the league in comp% (so he can’t hit anyone) and is first in sacks taken (despite mobility)

Take away that mobility (with the bad hammy) and we’re going to see one of the worst QBing performances on record this weekend.

Don’t be upset when it happens, just expect high comedy and you won’t be disappointed.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
October 9, 2013 5:44 pm

What Happened when Nick Foles Entered?

A: The offense started to look more like a coordinated plan of attack vs a sandlot pick up game. WHY??????

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 10, 2013 12:24 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

I didn’t see that at all…I did see the defense come up with some big turnovers and Foles make 2 nice throws to get the ball in the endzone…But I was not all that impressed with the movement of the ball up and down the field..except for the drive with Foles to end the half…

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
October 9, 2013 6:00 pm

I would be impressed by a running back having 76 yds in a half but not a QB and especially not when he only throws for 100ish most of which came on a long bomb that by all rights should have been intercepted.

Extrapolate 197 yds and 2 TD’s X 2 and perhapse Foles would have put up
400ish yds and 4TD’s not to mention FG’s

I hope we see the Kid do well so we can draft mostly Defense next year and talk about how we may have gotten the steal of the best QB class in 25 years.

Yes that is wishful and fanatical but I have HOPE for the future this week Vs being lost in the past staring at a Melon I know is half moldy.

NuGreembol
NuGreembol
October 9, 2013 9:30 pm

this convo is lol. All realTalk did was do what you clowns do to every Vick game. list incompletion’s and such. He only did that to make a point of how stupid that is especially if the overall performance was good. he even stated

“Overall, Foles did a good job coming in…Final result was an Eagles win, so I’m happy…bottom line…”

Most of you dudes are so blinded by hatred its silly. If Foles can be consistently productive im all for it, that doesn’t mean I have to make up things in my mind that aren’t there or incorrect about Vick. Im hearing stuff like

“nobody on here ever said vick was the reason we lost against the chargers. lets not tell lies. it was said that he was the reason we didn’t win though”

whaaaat?! delusional hatred. Even if that’s your warped opinion how do you come to that conclusion when the defense played as bad as they did and the offense led by Vick scored 30 with no T.O like we had in the Giants game?

I truly believe a lot of people up here are “vick lovers” and “vick Haters” Im neither I just end up defending against dumb points against him bc they are so outrageous. Being a Eagles fan I find it hard to sit back and read skewed biased points from so called fans of the same team. The only agenda should be winning and if was Vick would not be the first thing to come out of your mouth. Maybe the third thing if that’s how you feel but never the first bitch and complaint. Praising Foles for throws like Vick hasn’t made great throws. The pass he mad to Desean that supposedly went through a Giants defenders hands was as pin point as they come. Giants defender stretched all the way out in the air and the pass was in front of his fingertips and damn near impossible INt let alone bat down. Zero praise only hate let that had been Foles tho lol. a shame bc it makes people sound like they don’t like Foles when they do.

Stevo
Stevo
October 10, 2013 10:41 am
Reply to  NuGreembol

Agree- well put.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 10, 2013 12:26 pm
Reply to  NuGreembol

RealTalk supports this post!

NuGreembol
NuGreembol
October 9, 2013 9:36 pm

The fact that people are saying that pass to Desean should have been intercepted when the defender is laying out in the air fully extended and the pass went in front not through his hands directly into the bread basket is an example of the bias hatred. Why tho? why if that same pass was thrown by Foles it would be a slob fest. Please help I want to understand the hate.

Xevious
Xevious
October 10, 2013 12:11 pm
Reply to  NuGreembol

It’s not hate, what it’s called is lack of tolerance for repeated bad performances and bad decisions. I have seen the same Mike Vick in Atlanta and Philly for 12 years now. The NFL is a passing league and Vick is a bad passer. The problem I have with people and Why I won’t get into game by game arguments is because it’s the same damn thing every year. People wanna make it personal and it’s not. It I had Vick’s Job performance year after year I would be fired…No if’s and’s or buts. Professionals don’t make the same mistakes year after year or fail to learn from there mistakes. A kid with nary the experience of Vick comes in and is a better QB..He is going to make mistakes because he is young..anyone who thinks he won’t is dense. But he will learn and hopefully get better and that is something Vick has never shown except for 6 games. If Vick had shown at all in his past that he could learn to make wise good decisions, put the ball in the endzone or not make mistakes he made 10 years ago maybe he would garner the support he did 3 years ago. Vick has garnered loyalty from his athleticism and ability to be exciting, but that doesn’t cut it in the NFL. They figure you out and you need to adjust…That’s the gods honest truth…he’s not a bad guy just a bad QB with a loyal following that should be backing up a young guy. The infuriating part is his fans absolve him of most of his responsibility when things go wrong. It’s a 12 year thing. I have followed his career, he was never a good passer…he would have exceptional games here and there but thats it. That’s as honest as I can be.

daggolden
daggolden
October 10, 2013 5:13 am

I have a bad feeling this week. I think TB wins this week no matter who the QB is.I don’t see the Eagles running at all and the oline not protecting Foles much.24-9.

Stevo
Stevo
October 10, 2013 10:47 am

Gunna need some Brown this week!!!

If the birds want to win this week I think they will need to run Brown up the gut a lot. McCoy dances alot and finds the hole but I have a feeling he wont have that much time this week. The nice thing about having a qb who can run is that teams always have to keep 1 on on them… so… i expect Revis to take out Djax and the rest of the Bucks to take out Shady…. we will need another weapon on O to step up. I think the eagles can make this work.. Foles should have a good day… here is the base formation I would run againt TB all day… 2wr’s out wide. McCoy and Brown in the backfiled on each side of Nick. and a TE who moves out to the slot. Use McCoy on wheel routes, run brown up the middle. and find ways to get the TE the ball.

Stevo
Stevo
October 10, 2013 10:54 am
Reply to  Stevo

TB is not good at all- we should win big. Oh wait… we still have that D… the eagles O should score enough points to win.

Xevious
Xevious
October 10, 2013 12:16 pm
Reply to  Stevo

I see this as a trap game Tampa is 0-4 and Desean is running his mouth pissing off the best corner in the league. Smart move. Tampa’s defense is tough and it’s secondary strangle our weak wr corp. If the tight ends can get open and shady get 100 yards and Nick not make any dumb mistakes…we have a shot Offensively. Defensively you have Martin and Jackson to worry about. We are lucky they have a rookie at Qb so we sshould be able to blitz some and focus on martin. But it’s still not a walk over and a scary game IMO.

Xevious
Xevious
October 10, 2013 12:18 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Plus Tampa is coming off a bye…

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
October 10, 2013 12:01 pm

TB defense is pretty solid and they have been in every game. Giving up 17.5 a game. Rookie QB though. This has got to be a win.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
October 10, 2013 12:02 pm

Except the Pats game. Forgot to say that.

paulman
paulman
October 10, 2013 12:14 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

The TB Bucs have Played the Jets,Saints,Patriots and Arizona Cardinals
Besides the Saints, the other 3 Opponents are a work in progress Offensively and yes this includes the Patriots this year as Brady is working with new Receivers, still have no consistent RB and are still finding their way..
They did hold the dyanmic Drew Brees and Saints Offense to 16 Pts which is impressive in a close loss 16-14 in Tampa in some rainy weather…

paulman
paulman
October 10, 2013 12:15 pm
Reply to  paulman

Another thing,
Have the Eagles ever played a Good Game versus the TB Bucs..
it seems every time they Play them have been ugly,ugly games ..

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 10, 2013 12:47 pm

Its a very bad spot for the birds.

They’re coming off a big divisional win, playing their 3rd game in a row on the road (NFL history says teams win this game less than 30% of the time).

Plus they’re playing a TB team who is desperate and coming off a bye.

Plus Desean is being an idiot. Nice job superstar…you’re on the road with a QB who has 6 starts under his belt and you’re running your mouth. Well done.

On the plus side….TB will potentially fold up depending upon how popular Freeman was (I don’t think he was, but lets hope he was)

Another plus is they have a rookie QB playing his first game. Dvis should be able to confuse him with blitzes. I think NFL rookie QBs win about 10% of their first starts (historically) so the Eagles have a good shot here.

Lots of converging trends.

3rd game on road + loudmouth WR vs Potential team turmoil and rookie QB.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 10, 2013 2:17 pm

Tampa only scores 11 points a game, eleven points. If the birds kick a field goal every quarter they win.

paulman
paulman
October 10, 2013 2:45 pm

Then the Eagles Kicker A Henerey better get 2 opportunites a Quarter to be on the Safe Side…. 8 FG Attempts = 24 Pts Max X a 60% Kicking Completion % = 14.4 Pts which is > 11 Pts ..
I love this new Math… Ha

Xevious
Xevious
October 10, 2013 2:50 pm

Glennon started against Arizona Vin 13-10 loss for the Bucs.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 10, 2013 3:41 pm
Reply to  Xevious

Forgot about that. TB /riz games are easy to forget.

daggolden
daggolden
October 11, 2013 6:15 am

Vinnie all of the sudden “Its not a good spot” for the Eagles. Although I agree with that assessment somehow if Mike Vick was starting I don’t think you would be posting “Its not a good spot for the Eagles”.Never heard you post that while Vick was the starter. lol

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 11, 2013 7:51 am
Reply to  daggolden

Not “all of a sudden” you dimtwit.

Go back and look at my posts from 2 weeks ago, I said the exact same things about the TB game (3rd on road, off a div game, TB desperate) when I thought the fading former superstar was going to play.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 11, 2013 1:18 am

I do find it rather amusing how my name shows up on posts I haven’t responded on. lol.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 11, 2013 7:52 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

You post on so many blogs, defending your high school crush at so many opportunities….its hard to keep track whether you posted here or not.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 11, 2013 11:14 am

I see how you still like to keep my name in your mouth.

I also see you still have an unhealthy obsession with a man who neither takes care of or is in any way responsible for putting food on your table.

And I also see how you are incapable of keeping your word.

Same Vinnie. Different Day.

paulman
paulman
October 11, 2013 7:04 am

Actually this a good Spot for Foles to Play since TB Bucs do not score many points, that even if Foles struggles a bit or makes a couple of mistakes,
The Eagłes & Foles should still he able to make enough plays to Win this Game
Tampa’s Offense is the weakest they will Play all Season

Biglion821
Biglion821
October 11, 2013 8:04 am

Excuse me but this shouldn’t be a tough spot for Nick Brady I mean Peyton Foles. LOL seriously though the defense has to show up this week because against this Tampa defense 17 points might be a stretch no matter who the QB is. And to say this a trap game? Ah no because nobody wants to lose to a winless team so all that coming off a bye week and playing 3 divisional games in a row mean nothing. If you want to be a serious contender in this division you win this game period.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 11, 2013 11:16 am
Reply to  Biglion821

The defense is REALLY going to show up. Luckily Tampa’s offense should make that easy. But I doubt we 20 points in this game. Tampa’s D ain’t playing around. So we will need every opportunity we get to score.