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NickFoles1Terrible Showing For Nick Foles

A week after setting the world on fire against the Buccaneers, Eagles quarterback Nick Foles came crashing down to earth in his second start of the season.

Foles finished the game 11 of 29 for 80 yards. He did not complete a pass in the second half. The second-year quarterback looked like a completely different guy this week. His throws were not nearly as crisp and accurate as they were a week ago.

Foles’ mechanics were all out sorts. He didn’t set his feet well as he was making his throws, and he was overthrowing receivers or throwing behind them all day.

In the second quarter, Foles overthrew a wide-open Brent Celek before the end of the half. Several plays later, he threw behind Jeff Maehl on a third down that ended a drive.

In the third quarter, Foles threw another poor pass to a wide open Jason Avant that nearly became an interception.

It just wasn’t Foles’ lucky day. He also had a touchdown pass to DeSean Jackson broken up in the endzone on a fine play by a Dallas defender, and ended up leaving the game with a head injury.

Defense Brings Its “A” Game

No part of this Eagles team has been questioned and maligned more than the defense.

The unit has been gashed and embarrassed throughout the season, allowing everyone from Peyton Manning to Mike Glennon to put up big numbers and points on them.

But today was different.

For the first time all season, I came away impressed by what I saw from the Eagles defense.

This wasn’t hollow success like they had against the Washington Redskins earlier in the year. Today the defense came out sharp, played with intensity, and although they weren’t perfect they made the Cowboys fight for every yard.

The defense allowed only one field goal in the first half. They came up with a game-changing play in the third quarter when DeMeco Ryans intercepted a pass from Tony Romo and returned it into Dallas territory, setting up the team’s only field goal.

Even though Romo was eventually able to figure out what the defense was doing, and drive his team down the field for a couple of second-half touchdowns, the Eagles defense went well above and beyond what was expected of them today and their success should have been enough for the team to win.

Limiting the damage of an explosive offense that features the likes of Tony Romo, Dez Bryant, Jason Witten, Terrence Williams, and Miles Austin is by no means a simple challenge.

This is a day to stand up and applaud Billy Davis and his defense. They truly looked like an NFL-caliber defense for the first time all year, and if not for their efforts today, this game could have easily been one of the most humiliating games in recent memory.

While the defense has a long way to go before anyone can even think about calling them trustworthy, today’s effort is certainly reason for optimism and hope.

Who Starts At Quarterback Next Week?

For the third straight week, we have to deal with that ever persistent question of who will/should start at quarterback.

Michael Vick will clearly be the starter next week if he’s healthy.

But in my mind, today’s game showed exactly why its important that Nick Foles continue to be the starter for this team.

The Eagles need to find out about Nick Foles. They can’t go into another off-season with uncertainty surrounding their former third-round pick. Its important that he play these games and either sinks or swims.

Right now the Eagles have seen Foles get significant action in three games. He’s impressed in two of them, and he’s failed miserably in one. We need to see more. Which quarterback are we going to see more of? The guy who led the Eagles to late victories against the Giants and Buccaneers, or the guy who threw for only 80 yards today?

The Eagles won’t learn the answer by keeping him on the bench.

To be fair, Vick had done nothing through his five starts to lose the job. And I do believe that he’s earned the right to come back and continue to start.

But all along, I’ve wanted this season to be about progress and growth for the Eagles. I’ve wanted them to make decisions and operate with the future in mind. I’ve stated several times that I don’t believe Nick Foles is the future of this team. But even though I don’t believe in him, I want any questions about his ability answered this season, in a year that should be about building for the future.

Quick Thoughts

Offense

  • Matt Barkley replaced Nick Foles for the final quarter of the game, and didn’t make anyone think that he was a guy who at one point had a chance to be the first overall pick in the draft. Barkley threw three interceptions, and looked like a confused rookie who wasn’t ready to be on the field.
  • The Dallas Cowboys defense did a great job shutting down LeSean McCoy. McCoy was held to just 55 yards on 18 carries.
  • Zach Ertz has replaced Brent Celek as the team’s starting tight end.
  • The Eagles used some formations with both LeSean McCoy and Bryce Brown in the backfield.
  • Former Oregon Duck Jeff Maehl dropped a key reception on third down in the second quarter.
  • Riley Cooper had another nice game, catching six passes for 88 yards. Cooper had a nice play in the first half, catching a short pass and bouncing off of a tackler to pick up a first down.
  • DeSean Jackson was invisible today, catching just three passes for 21 yards.

Defense

  • DeMeco Ryans may have been the Eagles’ best player today. Ryans was phenomenal, and played perhaps his best game as an Eagle. The former Texan was involved on eight tackles. He came up with a stuff on a third-and one on the first Cowboy possession, added a sack, and intercepted Tony Romo in third quarter to set up the Eagles only points.
  • Vinny Curry came up with a sack on Romo in the second quarter on third down.
  • Curry lined up as a defensive tackle on some plays.
  • Nice hit by Earl Wolff on Dez Bryant in the second half. Wolff picked up his first career interception at the end of the first half on a hail mary.

Special Teams

  • Absolutely ridiculous decision by Chip Kelly to attempt a 60-yard field goal with 14 seconds left in the half. Henery had no shot to make that kick, and it gave Dallas an opportunity for points at the end of the half. It was a complete lack of awareness by the first-year coach to not understand what Dallas could possibly do starting at the 50-yard line with 10 seconds and one timeout left. He was fortunate not to get burned by his careless decision.

Final Thoughts

Where do the Eagles go from here?

They’ve now lost nine straight home games, and they’ve fallen to 3-4 and have lost first place to the Dallas Cowboys.

As disappointing as the offensive performance was today, you have to feel good about what the defense was able to do.

Luckily, the Eagles have another date with the New York Giants around the corner.

Whether its Michael Vick or Nick Foles under center, it shouldn’t be long before the Eagles return to .500 and end their home losing streak.

 

 

Denny Basens

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tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 20, 2013 4:51 pm

1. Boy was I wrong. Just knew it would be a high scoring affair and the defense would suck. Whoops.

2. “But in my mind, today’s game showed exactly why its important that Nick Foles continue to be the starter for this team.”

As long as there is a chance we can win the division. Foles sits. IF that changes than sure start him or Barkley. But not a moment before.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 20, 2013 5:21 pm
Reply to  Denny Basens

“I think it comes to down to two different mindsets.

One mindset is to win now, and the other is to plan for the future. ”

Fair enough.

lionsden
lionsden
October 20, 2013 5:34 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Honestly, I don’t agree with this POV because I don’t believe it’s authentic. I see this statement as more anti-Vick than pro Eagles. When Vick is playing this team is rarely blown or beaten badly. The Eagles have had and still have the same problem for the last decade… lack of WR depth or a boneafide #1 WR. The ONE year the Eagles had a bonefide WR during this time span they went to the SB. DJax is a one trick pony, but much like Randy Moss he’s great with that one trick. Philly needs an underneath threat to compliment DJax’s deep ball speed. If Philly had a 6’2 200+ lb WR that could run crisp routes, get separation and go across the middle along with a TE that does not drop every other pass this team would go far.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 20, 2013 5:48 pm
Reply to  lionsden

“with Vick the Eagles are rearly blown out or beaten badly”

Like the Denver game

skayne
skayne
October 20, 2013 5:57 pm

If Nick Foles had played like Vick did in that game today, we win by double digits.

Foles just blew a game where the defense gave up only 17 points. Is there even one game where Vick lost in the last 3 years where the opposing team scored only 17?

lionsden
lionsden
October 20, 2013 6:25 pm

@Welcher… do you not understand the meaning of rarely??? Too busy getting sun on the yact???

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 20, 2013 5:54 pm
Reply to  lionsden

Look…how many times have “some” of said that our wideouts don’t beat man coverage. They did a pretty horrible job this game doing that. They got open *some* than Foles folded when they did.

BUT not having Maclin is a BIG issue for this offense.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
October 20, 2013 4:54 pm

Exactly TS. Maybe you should be writing for this site and not this clown Denny.

E-money
E-money
October 20, 2013 4:59 pm

I have a feeling that neither Foles nor Vick will be ready for next week, or Vick will try to play but come up lame.

Foles was awful today, just way off target all day long. He couldn’t beat man to man coverage. Barkley was even worse, telegraphing every throw he made.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 20, 2013 5:04 pm

80 measly passing yards…we have learned all we need to know about Nick Foles…the pressure was on and we see what he is made of. The worst choke job I have ever seen! We dont need to see anymore Nick Foles at all! In fact…maybe Barkley should the backup!

lionsden
lionsden
October 20, 2013 5:08 pm

It’s amazing what Foles looks like when teams are not forced to prepare for two totally different QB’s and can actually focus on him… Not exactly setting the world on fire today is a gross understatement. To ad injury to insult… HE GETS KNOCKED OUT OF THE GAME BECAUSE OF INJURY. How good is Foles really when he’s not getting the benefit of a bogus pass interference call or being given a completion when the player was actually out of bounds. Are we ready to call Foles injury prone yet??? Negadelphian’s… do you still need to see a little more?

There was an idot not to long ago that said “Foles came in and played like Vick can only dream of playing…” I pretty certain Vick never dreamed of playing like this…. In the words of DCAR.. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

By the way the D is coming together… they played well against a very high scoring offense. Hopefully they can stay consistent.

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 12:25 am
Reply to  lionsden

LOL! Not allowed to use my calling card. I have a patent. LOL!

E-money
E-money
October 20, 2013 5:13 pm

Our current QBs make me miss Donovan.

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 12:27 am
Reply to  E-money

E-$$$, if Donovan had any sort of WR’s early in his career, when he was still very good, who knows what would of happened? Wish we did have a Donovan in his prime.

frankdialogue
October 20, 2013 5:20 pm

I only saw fragments of the third quarter so maybe you fellas can tell me WTF was going on out there??!!

Every time Foles had the ball,he was rolling out, scrambling or just holding the ball too long…This is not his game.

Was the Dallas D that good?…What was Kelly thinking?

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 20, 2013 5:26 pm
Reply to  frankdialogue

What happened was Foles showed us what he really is…he showed us exactly why all of the talk about him starting over Vick was so ridiculous!

andrew p
andrew p
October 20, 2013 5:23 pm

Denny, your crazy to think Foles deserves another chance. The only way I would give him another shot would be if we were playing Tampa Bay. That was the only team stupid enough to play zone against us, Dallas played man and you saw the results with Foles, with him being no running threat whatsoever that is how Ds are going to play us with him starting, he has no are strength at all! Say what u want about Vick but if he played today he’s making that play in the end zone, and because of his legs he’s also loosening up that man coverage, plus he didn’t do anything to lose his job. The bottom line is this, our QB of the future is NOT on this team.

andrew p
andrew p
October 20, 2013 5:54 pm
Reply to  Denny Basens

Denny, HELLO, Foles is 2-7 as a starting QB, what are you talking about? He had more then a couple bad throws, I’ll bet u anything u want Foles can play the rest of the year and he won’t be the starter next year no matter how good he plays. He hasn’t done one thing more that made Vick win the starting job in mini camp, he’s not Chips guy or type of QB, their will be a new QB on this team next year and if its up to Chip, it will be his guy Mariotta.

andrew p
andrew p
October 20, 2013 6:33 pm
Reply to  Denny Basens

Denny, if he was as good as u think, Reid would of went with him over Smith, he drafted him and knew him as well as anybody, if that doesn’t tell u something then nothing does. He’s not the future QB of this team and everone knows that, if he was he would of been the starter from day one, Vick didn’t do that much more to beat him out, it was close and since it was close Foles would of got the lead if Chip thought he was the future. Sometimes you have to read between the lines Denny, he’s a good QB but he won’t be the starting QB in 2014 for this team.

andrew p
andrew p
October 20, 2013 7:26 pm
Reply to  andrew p

I guess I read u wrong Denny, I thought u were saying he should be playing to see if he’s our future. We all know no matter how good he plays that’s not happening, if anything, Barkley is the one we should be looking at to see if he has any kind of chance to maybe be our future number 2, we already know what Foles is.

Zukny
October 20, 2013 8:54 pm
Reply to  andrew p

@Andrew. You nay not be aware but Andy. DID go after Foles in the off-season over Smith. Chip said no.
I’m sure someone can find the archive Article on profootballtalk

Turk
Turk
October 20, 2013 5:28 pm

You guys have the same mind set as the Phillies lets get all these Vets and try to win now instead of going with youth. When your team has no shot to win the title you must go with younger players and next season mix in a few vets.

deserteagle
deserteagle
October 20, 2013 5:28 pm

It’s so terribly disappointing and frustrating to see what nick foles did or didn’t do today.in a game ,where clearly all the pressure ,to become the guy,got to him,he was inaccurate ,harried ,distrusting of his own self..the defense ,had a nice game for the most part,with pressure still it’s key objective..on too many throws,Romo was clean…I was clearly in the nick foles (new sheriff) in town camp.but now that my sheriff shot himself now what ?

Turk
Turk
October 20, 2013 5:31 pm

Every Young QB playing on a team that is rebuilding and has a coach in his first year has struggles like this but want to start him again too see if he can bounce back. I tell you Philly fans never look at the big picture.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 20, 2013 5:48 pm
Reply to  Turk

Are you kidding me Turk.This was not just a young QB ‘struggling’…Foles folded under the pressure, he choked badly! 80 yards with 29 pass attempts is pathetic. Missing wide open receivers, throwing behind receivers..the defense gave Foles chance after chance…he missed simple passes and the whole offense loss confidence. The Dallas defense was without Ware and this was no shutdown defense…not at all…it was simply a matter of the pressure of the game getting to Foles…which tells me all that I need to know about Nick Foles!

skayne
skayne
October 20, 2013 5:39 pm

There’s no question we should play to win by putting Vick in. How many wild-card teams won SBs when they only had an average regular season? In the one and done format, you always have a chance to win if you make the playoffs.

Now that the bus to Canton for Nick Foles has broken down, Vick can get healthy so we can win this division, and Foles can be what he is right now, a competent backup with a chance to be something better in the future. But the 2013 qb is Mike Vick.

You don’t have to focus on one or the other- present or future? Good franchises keep both in mind when making decisions. I’m not worried about the future qb when the 2013 season is up for grabs.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 20, 2013 5:56 pm
Reply to  skayne

You play to win. Now. That’s completely how I feel about it.

frankdialogue
October 20, 2013 5:56 pm

I saw one good comment that stated the problem was Dallas was playing tough man to man on the receivers…This is where the coach should have a plan ‘B’.

There didn’t seem to be a running game either.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 20, 2013 5:57 pm

Here we go:

1 – Obviously I should remain in Ireland when he Birds play for the ole luck

2 – Foles was terrible

3 – It was Foles 8th start. It is expected that guys in their 8th start have stinkers. This is exactly why he needs to keep rolling out there to work through this crap.

4 – Eagles D was $$. Encouraging

5 – I think its time to move on from Mesean. The pouting 2011 I’m going to give half effort and point at everyone else Mesean was in full effect today

6 – If there was a contest between Bryant and Jackson for pointing, who would win?

7 – Also wasn’t the biggest fan of Lesean’s body language today

8 – In last week’s interview I heard from Vick about how he’s always there for Foles. So how come every shot to the sideline saw Foles and Barkley huddled with the OC, while Vick walked around by himself first with his hat, then with his touque

9 – Foles was terrible. I don’t know what was up. Strange.

10 – Foles always puts his mouthguard in. I notice these things, and they mean more than you Vic-lovers think.

11 – Barkley needs work

skayne
skayne
October 20, 2013 6:03 pm

You always have to find some way to blame Vick. The fact that his teammates love him never seems to penetrate your skull.

Just cuz you hate him doesn’t mean he’s a bad person, it just means you have Vick Derangement Syndrome.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 20, 2013 6:10 pm

“3 – It was Foles 8th start. It is expected that guys in their 8th start have stinkers. This is exactly why he needs to keep rolling out there to work through this crap.”
Are you kidding me!! No it was not expected that a guy can have a measly 80 yards on 29 pass attempts. This was not due to any great pass rush pressure…this was soley due to Foles feeling the pressure! Terrible passes, missing wide open receivers…Foles could not muster up a single decent drive! Not One…
NO! This is not simply a ‘bad game’…this was a pure choke job! This game tells us all we need to know about Nick Foles…he is not a starting NFL quarterback!

lionsden
lionsden
October 20, 2013 6:13 pm

1 – Stop making me laugh with your fraudulent claims
2 – Stop stating the obvious
3 – Stop holding on to Foles gold
4 – I Know that hurt you to say
5 – Can’t blame it on Vick this week so you’ll find somebody else other than were it belongs: Foles
6 – If there was a contest on GCOBB for deflecting attention away from how stupid their previous comments were who do you think would win???
7- Oh really… but you’ve never criticized him for missing blocks that get his QB killed.
8 – Oh but I thought “Ron Mexico” should be cut loose because he was bad for the team?
9 – Again with the obvious??? Strange no… predictable yes. See U of Arizona
10 – Almost passed out laughing at the extent of your football knowledge
11 – Ok, some one needs to change your name to Captain Obvious cause you sir have a gift.
12 – STAY AWAY FROM THE 14YR OLD GIRLS!!!!
13 – DIDN’T YOU LOSE A BET? WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE??
14 – BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 12:31 am

Barkley blows Vinnie. No amount of work will change that.
USC QB= overrated, over hyped NFL stiff.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
October 20, 2013 5:58 pm

yea! keep playing foles! we need to know if he’s the future!!!

They’re still waiting to see if Blaine Gabbert is the future in Jacksonville as well.

Guess what…..he’s not.

Xevious
Xevious
October 20, 2013 6:21 pm
Reply to  BirdoBeamen

Blaine Gabbert 2-3 years..Nick Foles 8 games great comparison.

summup
summup
October 20, 2013 6:01 pm

How do you guys feel about Foles now? I’ll tell you how I feel HE SUCKED AND WAS AFRAID AT HOME. Gcobb wrote a piece on how FOLES is better equipped to run this offense. RIGHT if Vick played we would have won this game like I stated last week SO ENOUGH WITH THIS FOLES CRAP

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 20, 2013 6:08 pm

7th, 8th, 9th start:

12 of 24 for 136 0td 1 int Vick
10 of 23 for 123 2td 2 int Eli
9 of 23 for 123 0td 1 int Russel Wilson
11 of 29 for 80 yards 0 and 0 Foles
15 of 26 for 152 0 and 0 Rodgers (In his 4th year)

Foles was terrible.

Its to be expected.

A team with long term vision realizes this and continues developing the kid with promise.

Good thing those other teams didn’t abandon their young QB when they played a stinker in their 7th, 8th or 9th game

lionsden
lionsden
October 20, 2013 6:22 pm

Michael Vick 1st 4 Years of his career.

2ND Year as NFL Starter – Playoff Victory, loses to Eagles. Accomplished this with 1 offensive probowler on offense other than him.

3RD – Broken leg in beginning of the year comes back and goes 3-1 to finish the year.

4TH Year as NFL Starter – Playoff Victory takes team to NFC Championship game losses to Eagles. Accomplished this with 1 offensive probowler on offense other than him

IN COLLEGE
Vick
1 appearence in NC game
1 Bowl Victory

Foles
Crickets….

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
October 20, 2013 6:30 pm

Vick Eli and Rodgers we picked specifically to be the futures of their respective franchises. Foles, much like Wilson, was picked as a luxury in case any of the QBs on the foster failed. The difference between Wilson and foles is their teams record and their performances through the first 8 games.

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 12:35 am

vinnie, no excuses! He laid a wet fart, & folded under the pressure, & choked. If you’re going to be real, & fair both ways, be real. You wonder why, you’re called a hater.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 21, 2013 5:33 am
Reply to  DCar

No excuses.

Just perspective

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 20, 2013 6:11 pm

yeah…let’s have Foles run the read option.

That will win us a championship!

Let me post here what’s needed to make this team a contender!

we need an NFL big center!

Kelce is soft!

we need to move Herreman’s back to the left guard.

Nate Allen should be cut now.

Wolff should start with Byrd from Buffalo next season.

Fire Bill Davis and switch back to a 4-3 because the personnel fits a 4-3

Hire the secondary coach from Seattle to coach the defense.

Draft defense heavy next draft along with a top punt/kick returner.

Also cut Riley Cooper bum ass and get a real, big, fast offensive threat at receiver.

Playoff contenders 2015

Xevious
Xevious
October 20, 2013 6:20 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Riley Cooper was your best receiver on the field past two weeks….Go comment on your Redskins bro. You obviously aren’t an objective Eagles fan.

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 12:36 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Can’t disagree.

Muimuiman
Muimuiman
October 20, 2013 6:14 pm

Lets be honest, neither of these QB’s are that good. Foles look incredibly bad today. Vick has looked bad against the Chiefs and Broncos. On the other hand, Vick was incredible against the skins and chargers, foles incredible against the giants and bucs.

Bottom line is, both of these guys are gonna look good some days, and bad other days. Neither of them can carry their team like an elite QB. IMO, thats what we need to get in next years draft. I was hoping we’d draft Geno Smith, who I believe is underrated and a franchise QB. But anyway, today was extremely disappointing to say the least.

Xevious
Xevious
October 20, 2013 6:18 pm
Reply to  Muimuiman

good and sensible post. Well said.

Muimuiman
Muimuiman
October 20, 2013 8:13 pm
Reply to  Xevious

Ofcourse its a sensible post here. Most of the Vick haters on here hate him for a “certain reason.” TSjohnson probably overly supports Vick because of this, which I applaud to a certain extent. But Vick has had plenty bad games too. Point is, we need a franchise QB in the draft next year. Or give GJ Kinee a shot lol

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 12:39 am
Reply to  Muimuiman

Kudos Mui. Great posts. Agree 100%.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 20, 2013 6:58 pm
Reply to  Muimuiman

Stop it…Stop it! Vick has never had a game where he has looked so bad…what happened was clear…Dallas had a chance to game plan and study Foles…this was the game for Foles…this was his shot and he choked..badly!

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 20, 2013 7:33 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Well he had one…but he cracked his ribs on like the 4th play of the game or some such thing. lol

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 12:47 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

How’s about that 2004 playoff game against us? Pretty bad.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 21, 2013 8:23 am
Reply to  DCar

“How’s about that 2004 playoff game against us?”

Yeah. Read that sentence again.

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 11:03 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Sorry. How about that 2004 playoff he played against us? Is that better grammar nazi? I only had 3 hours of sleep. Give me a break. Point being, that was 1 of his worst games of Vicks career, & just as bad as yesterdays game. koolbreeze stated he NEVER had a game that bad. He was presumptuous, & factually incorrect. That was the last time our DF looked good. LOL!

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
October 20, 2013 6:15 pm

the “see what u got” mentality is for when u have no shot at the post season. If history has taught us anything in pro sports it’s that u just get to the dance and see what unfolds. The best team in the regular season rarely wins it all. Now, I’m not saying this team is a Super Bowl team, but while we are Alive u play who gives u the best shot. Right now, anyone arguing that Vick isnt the best guy on the roster to win now is hard pressed to find support. Complain all u want on blogs but the guys paid to make decisions agrees with me.

Xevious
Xevious
October 20, 2013 6:17 pm

*th start ever for Foles…He is expeted to have games like this…It’s how a QB bounces back from this shit that shows what he’s made of. He played terrible and I hate to break it to you all but we need to play for next year. Denny you were right the Cowboys were the better team, I was wrong and way too optimistic about our chances. I was right about the defense but it doesn’t matter. Like I said in another thread, what’s it matter if we win a few games more this year? We aren’t winning the superbowl and this team has way too many holes and way too many guys without heart. I find it hilarious everyone jumping on the kid in an 8th game horrible start….no one says he is Brady or manning but he needs to be left in to see what he is.

daggolden
daggolden
October 20, 2013 6:41 pm
Reply to  Xevious

Yeah tell the rest of the team that. He sucks no one cares what you think.

jott1972
jott1972
October 20, 2013 6:25 pm

I didnt get to watch the game, but heard it on the radio… the radio analysts kept saying people were open all day and Foles consistently either threw to the wrong person or missed the open receiver all day long….

If the Eagles want a shot at a franchise QB, they need to move into the top 10 of the draft…..oh and there is a reason Barkley was passed on for 3 rounds

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 20, 2013 7:01 pm
Reply to  jott1972

Foles was missing wide open receivers…throwing terrible passes. Foles choked so badly it was embarrassing!

jott1972
jott1972
October 20, 2013 6:29 pm

was just driving over the Walt Whitman bridge and you should see the line of people jumping off… lol…. c’mon people… what do you really expect from this team??? Howie added a load of crap in free agency and Chip is doing his best while trying to turn Washington State into Oregon….. it’s going to take time and the right pieces….however, that being said, it will not happen with Howie as GM… he is the maggot eating the rotten flesh we call Lurie…..absolute used cars salesman who has no business being an NFL GM.

ChrisS
ChrisS
October 20, 2013 6:48 pm

One bad game and I knew this was going to happen. That’s what happens when you root for a Philly team. Good games trump bad games though.

Stevo
Stevo
October 20, 2013 7:10 pm

Bottom line is this…. vick will start when he is ready. He has earned the jp ..m foles not so much.

It was bad today folks.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 20, 2013 7:14 pm

play foles foe the rest of the season and that will assure a top 5 pick.

ChrisS
ChrisS
October 20, 2013 7:25 pm

From a smart commenter on csnphilly:

“The difference between Vick and Foles, in my opinion, is this: When Vick has a bad game, it’s a reminder that he has pretty much hit his ceiling, and it’s not like we can expect him to improve from a bad performance because he’s established himself as an inconsistent (though exciting) player.

If Foles has a bad game (and today was AWFUL), at least I can say that there is a chance he learns and gets better from this. He has, what, 7 or 8 career starts? That’s nothing. Everyone that wants to jump on him saying he sucks and could never be the starter based on one bad game, fine. But young players have bad games and can improve from it by learning. That doesn’t happen with many veteran QBs. So I won’t say Foles isn’t the answer yet, but this is exactly why I think Kelly needs to get an extended look at him even though he sucked today. See if he can rebound.
Vick might give us a better chance to win games this season, but who will be winning games for us in the future? Foles, or someone still in college. That’s the more important question.”

Yes, we want to win now. currently our record sits at 3-4 now how is that record made up?
Vick 1-3
Foles 2-1
I’ll take the giant win away from Foles because I’m sure someone is going to complain about that. then its
Vick 1-3 below .500
Foles 1-1 @ .500

So, the truth that is super hard to swallow for fans either faction is, that neither gives us the best chance to win. Do we roll with the vet that may or may not have hit his ceiling or a guys that has played a total of 8 games in his career?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 20, 2013 7:30 pm
Reply to  ChrisS

$$$$ post

lionsden
lionsden
October 20, 2013 9:20 pm

@welcher… it’s money alright… because it makes absolutely no cents!!!

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 20, 2013 7:36 pm
Reply to  ChrisS

do you think Foles is good enough to win against a team with a winning record?

If Foles can only win against losing teams than we can say for sure that there’s no shot in him leading this team to the playoffs….correct?

Now, let’s turn to vick.

many would like to point to his 12 years without a SB but ignore him singlehandedly leading his team to the NFC championship game.

Who would take a QB leading the Eagles to an NFC championship game right now?

I would.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 20, 2013 7:37 pm
Reply to  ChrisS

The Qb who starts the game gets credit for the game.

Vick – 2-3
Foles – 1-1

But keep comparing the two if you like…in Vick’s worst game this season he still accounted for 300 yards of offense by his lonesome. So please stop.

There is no comparison.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 20, 2013 7:56 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

Yes…please..please stop! There is no comparison at all! 80 yards with 29 attempts is beyond pathetic. Listen..I would give Foles the “bad game” break if we could say that the offensive line was getting manhandled, or the defense was stinking, if receivers were covered…and Foles just could’nt get it done…ok.
This game was Foles big test…the Cowboys, at home, first place up for grabs…Foles folded worst than a cheap suit.
Mike Vick is the QB for this team…bottom line!

skayne
skayne
October 20, 2013 7:57 pm
Reply to  ChrisS

We roll with the vet who’s proven he can take a team to the playoffs, plain and simple.

Vick played against 3 winning teams, with the defense playing like crap in all 3. Foles played against only one winning team, and in all 3 games the opposition scored 21 and under. The best defensive performance in over a year, and Foles blew it. As I said before, since Vick became the Eagles starter, there isn’t ONE GAME we lost where the opponent scored only 17. The problem has been defense, except not today, the problem was Foles.

If you actually payed attention, Foles’ ceiling isn’t in the vicinity of where Vick’s is now. Through 2.5 games our offense has had more 3 and outs with Foles than Vick had thru 4.5 games.

It’s ludicrous to talk about Foles ceiling as if he has dynamic physical ability to grow into.

frankdialogue
October 20, 2013 7:48 pm

vinnietheevictor
October 20, 2013 – 6:08 pm

“9 – Foles was terrible. I don’t know what was up. Strange.

10 – Foles always puts his mouthguard in. I notice these things, and they mean more than you Vic-lovers think.

11 – Barkley needs work.”

Now that I am at a proper keyboard, I can make a proper comment.

Now, Vinnie makes some good points here.

What I saw of the game, 3rd Quarter, Foles was WAY off; didn’t look like himself…Was he injured?…Network talking heads say ‘Foles had a groin pull, as announced by Eagles, before the game’.

OK…Does this mean that Kelly had no choice other than Barkley?…Foles looked way out of it, and a player in the NFL doesn’t do a 180 degree turn in a week…Was Foles really hurt?…Why didn’t Kelly adjust his game plan then: pound the ball, go for short routes, do something to compensate for Foles lack?…Because, yes, Foles stunk up the joint today.

Was the Dallas ‘D’ just so tough today that they just whipped us?…I was surprised that Kelly seemed to be able to make no adjustments in his plan of attack to compensate for what the Cowboys were doing on that side of the line of scrimmage….The running game for the Birds was almost as bad as the passing game.

In closing, I think some band wagon jumpers were picturing the Eagles in the playoffs after last weeks win against the Bucs; now they are ready to jump off the bridge…This is a transition year, so we shouldn’t expect too much, and, in addition, the Birds are 3-4 and still have a good record in the division and conference, and will get another shot at Dallas.

The Eagles defense was good today, so that is a definite positive to take away from an otherwise miserable game.

lionsden
lionsden
October 20, 2013 9:23 pm
Reply to  frankdialogue

OMG!!!!! from Vickscuses to Foles Gold!!!! Gotta Love it…

Vinnie the welcher couldn’t make a good point if he had both of his pointer fingers.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 20, 2013 7:57 pm

Coach Reid came into the Linc and kicked the Chip’s offense’s butt and so did the Cowboys.What’s next Kevin Kolb returning and putting up 50?

frankdialogue
October 20, 2013 8:10 pm

I still see nothing special in Kelly’s offensive scheme: Last week was more like a high quality working of the ‘West Coast offense’…Today, all I saw was Foles scrambling around, holding the ball for 7-8-9 seconds, and getting chased down by Cowboys D-Linemen.

And where do we see the use of multiple TEs, al la the Pats?

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 20, 2013 8:23 pm
Reply to  frankdialogue

no frank…you didn’t see that.

you seen a quick release. what you seen is a tall 6′ 5″ QB scanning the field. You can’t teach 6′ 5″ you know?

You seen a field general getting the ball out of his hands and getting 7 in the red zone.

Oh I’m sorry.

That only happen against teams with “0” in the win column.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 20, 2013 8:20 pm

I said Foles would get smashed in front of our home crowd.

did yall paste it?

DonP
DonP
October 20, 2013 8:37 pm

Denny it almost looked like Foles lost his concentration when receivers starting dropping passes early in the game offense was horrible all way around.I want to see if Foles rebounds and shows hes nfl material we have to know where we stand I was hoping next draft they would beef up the D but if things go bad now looks like QB first thing on their mind next draft!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 20, 2013 8:49 pm

I don’t get the Vick Nick thing. Fact is, in the last 9 home games the Eagles have lost…going back to Sept. 30th of 2012. That’s pathetic. Vick is 1-9 in his last 10 starts. How is that something to feel comfortable about as far as winning. Foles is like 2-6. They both have losing records!!! If the Eagles are going to start winning again and going to the playoffs, neither guy can be the starter on this team!

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 20, 2013 9:02 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

eagle? do you think that losing record had anything to do with the defense?

Is there a qb living who would have led this team to a winning record witha defense this pathetic the last few years? please answer.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 20, 2013 9:11 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

In some games, however, think about the cowboy vs Denver game. Both QB’s lit it up, obviously there had to be a loser, however, both records remain abysmal. At some point the QB has to win some of those games if he is as good as some people want to portray Vick and Nick. There’s your answer, agree or disagree, there’s your answer!! The fact is record wise it really doesn’t matter which one is behind center. Yes Vick as adds more excitement but at the end of the day aloss is still a loss.

skayne
skayne
October 20, 2013 9:09 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

The TEAM has a losing record over that time span…mainly the defense has been garbage during that time.

The problem has been defense. That’s why it was a pleasant surprise to see the D’s performance today. Only to see a horrible performance from the qb waste it.

The Eagles would have won by 2 tds today with Vick at qb. He’s 9-4 vs. the division since 2010. He owns the Cowgirls, with his only loss coming last year when he left the game due to injury with the score tied, and the teams losing with Foles on the field.

He owns the Giants and Skins as well. If he’s qb, we’ll win the division.

skayne
skayne
October 20, 2013 9:12 pm
Reply to  skayne

I mean he’s 10-4 vs. the division since 2010.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 20, 2013 9:22 pm
Reply to  skayne

But we don’t just play within the division…so what does that help if we fail to reach the playoffs anyway?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 20, 2013 9:14 pm
Reply to  skayne

Unfortunately we don’t know if the Eagles would have won with Vick under center…we could hope but it’s just speculation at best!

skayne
skayne
October 20, 2013 9:18 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

It’s a good bet given his track record. Tons of open receivers, good pass protection, plenty of room to run if everyone is covered…it’s a near certainty given what we saw in this game.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 20, 2013 9:24 pm
Reply to  skayne

The offense has been garbage over the last couple of years too. Especially last year.

skayne
skayne
October 20, 2013 9:32 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

The offense was really good in 2011, not so hot in ’12 due to turnovers. But the defense coming into this year had the most blown 4th quarter leads over the last 2 years in the NFL.

Take the worst of the 2000-04 defenses, pair it with the offensive production since 2010, and the Eagles make the playoffs easy.

Zukny
October 20, 2013 9:03 pm

I didn’t see the game until the 3rd quarter when Foles drove the down the field getting injured. I heard he played terrible. I also heard that he was playing with a partially torn groin. Which sounds interesting considering that would mess up anyone’s game.. I’m not sure how bad the (groin) issue is since no one is talking about it.

That all said, if you point to Foles record from last season make sure to also point out that there was! No Djax No McCoy No Celek No peters No O-line No Maclin in A few games either. YET he still had a 60% completion percentage.

So point being. Something threw his game off today and I don’t believe it was the pressure. He faced the pressure last season and did pretty well. Call me blind but something tells me this Groin thing messed him up more than we are to realize

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 20, 2013 9:08 pm
Reply to  Zukny

zuk? Foles did well last season? what was his record?

Zukny
October 21, 2013 8:20 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

With No: Maclin, DJackson, JPeters, McCoy, & other O-Line personnel
The Eagles scored: 23pts, 6pts, 22pts, 33pts, 23pts, 13pts, 20pts.
In that time he went: 1 & 6 w/ 61% completion percentage.

I’m not arguing his record was good last season, but I am arguing he showed a lot to this team last season being thrust into the starting gig w/ a bunch of injuries. One has to wonder. How many games could have been wins if Foles had Jackson and McCoy last year.
I would venture to say he could have easily gone 3 & 3

Zukny
October 20, 2013 9:10 pm

For the people that hate Foles I want to know why. Racist? Why do you think he sucks? Why do you hope he Fails?

I’m a fan of Vick. I like his love for the game. His demeanor. His inspiration and that he Santiago be in the game no matter what. If Vick grew 3 inches he would be a HOFER!

but he is 5-11, many passes get knocked down, low completion percentage, 33 years old, typically doesn’t ever look for the second receiver or check down.

Foles has a chance to be as good as Matthew Stafford in my eyes. If you don’t want to give him the chance to become that, then you are crazy

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
October 20, 2013 9:20 pm
Reply to  Zukny

Zukny, why do you think people who think Vick gives the team the best chance to win has a racist agenda, they just want the best personnel in the game to accomplish a victory. They both come up short when it’s put up time because they both have short comings!

Zukny
October 21, 2013 8:14 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Vick: 2013 (1-2) 2012 (1-3) 2011 (7-6 w/ last 3 games being meaningless wins) I honestly like Vicks heart and determination. if he was 6’3″ he would have been a HOFER, but he isn’t!

We know Vick isn’t taking us anywhere this season. You said it yourself when you wrote: “they both come up short when it’s put up time” The difference here is that Foles has played 1 BAD game since starting last season. Isn’t it too early to write him off?

I’m not claiming everyone wants Foles gone because of Racism, but I am definitely claiming it has something to do with it. It doesn’t take a genius to know Vick is gone after this season. Why draft a QB in the 1st Round in 2014 if we can draft a Safety? a Linebacker? or a CB?

Give Foles a few games to convince you 100% certain that he is NOT the answer

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 20, 2013 9:20 pm
Reply to  Zukny

Foles suck because he looks horrible against real competition.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
October 20, 2013 9:39 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Did you see Vick play against KC this year?

skayne
skayne
October 20, 2013 9:49 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Difference in that game was receivers weren’t open and the pass protection was horrible. In the Dallas game receivers were open and the protection was good, and the Eagles scored a measly 3 points.

Against the Chiefs we had over 400 yards of offense, 16 points and a chance to win the game at the end.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 20, 2013 9:50 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Yep. Shitty game. And he still accounted for 300 yards of offense.

Nice try though.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
October 21, 2013 12:41 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

They both had a QB rating in the 40s and both looked like they forgot how to throw the ball.

skayne
skayne
October 21, 2013 3:12 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

It’s not even close. The Chiefs have the highest ranked defense this year, Dallas bottom 3.

Receivers were wide open in the Dallas game, they were rarely open against the Chiefs.

You like most Vick detractors, ignore that he had almost 100 yards rushing, while Foles gives you nothing on the ground.

Stevo
Stevo
October 21, 2013 2:15 pm
Reply to  Zukny

read my post down below- i think this will help. Its not about Foles, its about the people who blog here. we are sick of their stupidity. I rooted my brains out for Foles… we all did. We just cant take it anymore- they have really gotten to us.

ChuckRob
ChuckRob
October 20, 2013 9:24 pm

Good Gracious… I swear reading these post sounds like the government shutdown the past few weeks, just insert Democrat and Republican, white vs black… however you want to look at it. Nick Foles stunk up the Linc today, played with no confidence and just seemed like something was missing… does he deserve another start, yeah about as much Vick does when he gets healthy… Who cares about the future, I deal in the present, and Vick is the best QB for the present… time out for excuses…

ChuckRob
ChuckRob
October 20, 2013 9:37 pm

Foles is Bobby Hoying reincarnated… You know what that’s not fair, because he has to throw to the same practice squad WRs that Vick did… Can you say NO separation… Foles’ running was painful today…

Zukny
October 21, 2013 8:28 am
Reply to  ChuckRob

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/20/hobbling-foles-has-been-dealing-with-a-groin-injury/

Foles was “Hobbling” around on a Groin problem today. Which may account for some of his BAD running and his inability to settle into his throws. Let’s see you play football w/ a torn groin

larrwd
larrwd
October 20, 2013 9:43 pm

Foles will never be able to be a starter becuase when the defense is fast and aggressive he just doesnt have the arm strength or foot speed.. hes just average and it wasnt for his size he wouldnt even get a shot.. I admit I wanted to see foles .. but he is so slow that even when hes runnign away he gets clobbered.. He is no comparison to vick

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 20, 2013 9:47 pm

Bobby Hoying Troix

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
October 20, 2013 10:00 pm

I have the NFL game pass looking at the game again laughing my ass off. This Foles guy is shit.

paulman
paulman
October 20, 2013 10:18 pm

Who cares, it’s only Football..,

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 5:35 am

Biggest game of his short career, had a chance to grab the bull by the horns, & solidify his starting job, & he choked, & $#!T his pants. There is no other way to look at it. The “Genius” took 2 steps back too. Bad & predictable play calling. Didn’t utilize the TE’s, AGAIN! No slants. Kicking a 60 yard FG, with 1 yard to go, with 2 time outs left. Best game the $#!tty DF has had this year, wasted. Disgusting.

jakedog
jakedog
October 21, 2013 8:36 am
Reply to  DCar

Most accurate, succinct summary of yesterday

Look, the qb gets the praise and the glory, usually exaggerated , but you cannot over exaggerate how bad foles was yesterday, and it came out of left field

Foles needs to start again. We need to see how he reacts to probably the worst eagles qb performance I have ever witnessed. Going to Vick will tell us nothing, if they win the division it means nothing with the quarterback question unsettled, in fact if foles is as bad as some here think let it play out that way and it will then be certain the eagles need to draft a quarterback

Let’s see how foles reacts to adversity,mits a win win situation for the eagles

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 21, 2013 5:43 am

7th, 8th, 9th start:

12 of 24 for 136 0td 1 int Vick
10 of 23 for 123 2td 2 int Eli
9 of 23 for 123 0td 1 int Russel Wilson
15 of 26 for 152 0td 0int Rodgers
13 of 28 for 127 yards 0tds 3 ints Kaepernick
12 of 20 for 129 yards 0 tds 2 ints (Brees)

11 of 29 for 80 yards 0int 0tds in 3 quarters Foles

This is not an excuse. Just perspective.

Foles played badly.

Just about every young QB drops the exact same kind of stinkers over their first 10 starts.

It is to be expected.

The question is whether or not he can rebound (like those others) from terrible performances.

Anyone who does not recognize this is being disingenuous.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 21, 2013 4:21 pm

yea show us some stats from the QB’s that were not as successful…

Charlie Frye
John Beck
Jason Campbell
Tavaris Jackson
Matt Leinart
Byron Leftwich…I can go on and on….this list is much longer than those of your success stories…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 21, 2013 5:45 am

Was not the bigger question the return of petulant Mesean?

Big game, rook QB struggling. And he’s off waving his arms, shrugging his shoulders, staring at the sky shaking his head, slacking on routes, standing off to the side with Lesean….

Way to help out your young struggling teammate Mesean.

I won’t be upset when he’s gone.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
October 21, 2013 6:58 am

Are you kidding me? I mean…really? You want to blame the teammates? How about the QB inspiring the players around him with some courage and mental toughness? We know see why the players are so loyal to Vick! Foles is a backup who can’t handle the pressure. So stop blaming teammates the coaches and everyone else! It’s simple-the kid choked

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 21, 2013 8:31 am

He wasn’t slacking on routes, Foles was throwing the ball the wrong fucking way! lol

But yeah our QB accounts for 80 yards passing and it’s somehow the wide receivers fault. And this is why no one takes you seriously.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 21, 2013 10:21 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

And early in the game when Foles rolled right in troubs and Mesean jogged lazily the other way that was……what? Trying hard?

Funny, you seem to bring up the WRs a lot when Vick stinks.

Stevo
Stevo
October 21, 2013 10:43 am

YES!!!! yesterday during the game i bet my brother $10 that “if foles keeps this up, I bet Vinnie uses this play to build a not Foles fault argument”!!

Thanks- you are predictable as you are silly.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
October 21, 2013 10:45 am

“Funny, you seem to bring up the WRs a lot when Vick stinks.”

Yes. For dropping catchable balls. Not perceived attitude problems.

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 11:09 am

vin, you are going out of your way, to making an @$$ out of yourself! You can’t blame Vick, so now DJax is the whipping boy. Come on man, Foles was horrid. He failed on the big boy circuit, $#!t his pants, then faked an injury, to end the embarrassment! Cut out your Vick obsession. It’s embarrassing to us fans, who dislike him, for legit reasons. Admit, Foles is not our future QB. For the 1000 time, we don’t have one. Period. End of story.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 21, 2013 11:15 am
Reply to  DCar

I am not blaming anyone for anything.

I said clearly that Foles Stank. I also said clearly that this should be expected because every young QB has a stinker game or two in his first 16 starts.

I also said that I saw a lot of Mesean in the game yesterday, pouting and whining and slacking and shrugging…(prob upset he’s not playing with his best buddy) and that is exactly the opposite of what should have been happening with a young QB in trouble out there.

And he did not ‘fake’ anything, the refs ordered him off the field and to the trainers, which is what happens now in today’s concssion petrified NFL.

I, as I have stated many times have no idea if Foles is the future as he has not played enough games. I do know however, that the Birds will win nothing with Vick at the helm and starting him is counter-productive.

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 11:20 am

Well, I do agree with your last paragraph.

Stevo
Stevo
October 21, 2013 1:56 pm

you are so silly… all i can do is point and laugh.

If anyone comments about the Oline or Wr drops when Vick is starting its all about us being “Vickologists”- but you quickly throw out the… “I saw a lot of mesean in the game” stuff.

My points from day 1 of this season have always been….1. I dont care who the qb is. 2. Vinnie is a joke. you sir, are taking #2 to a brand new level today. Enjoy your crow…. you earned it.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
October 21, 2013 3:18 pm
Reply to  Stevo

I hear there’s a Sylvain learning centre opening in your neighbourhood to help you with your reading comprehension problems.

I did not at any point “blame” desean for Foles’ troubles. FOles had his troubles all his own.

What I did say was that IN ADDITION TO Foles having a bad game, Desean started pouting like the little bitch that he is, and that’s pretty fucking unfortunate that there are still a bunch of front running prima donna on the Birds who fold up and point fingers the moment things start going badly.

Did you see that little bitch putt a Rickey Watters on the pass across the middle from Barkley….that’s right Barkley, not Foles.

That kind of shit has to be shipped if this team wants to compete.

Stevo
Stevo
October 21, 2013 3:36 pm
Reply to  Stevo

“While the 4th and 1 call was pathetic, I think the 3rd and 1 call (a deep throw) was just as, if not more perplexing. Easy handoff or QB sneak there sets up first down and a spike maintains the timout.
Overall that was completely amateur hour by the coaching staff”

COACHES

“And early in the game when Foles rolled right in troubs and Mesean jogged lazily the other way that was……what? Trying hard?”

WR!!

Its funny Vin cause when WE say that WE also see these things during other games- you call them “vickscuses”

Welcome to our world. The good news is…. the D played great.. so…. Im not blaming anything on the D today. Although…. they have earned their share most weeks.

More crow for you.

Stevo
Stevo
October 21, 2013 3:43 pm
Reply to  Stevo

and the best part is…. you write the failure off by showing us what Brees did in his starts back then.

again- we point and laugh. Enough from me… you have enough crow to chew on. Go birds.

bsmvideos
October 21, 2013 7:02 am

I told you…Ready to make Foles the starter based on games against super scrubs.

Take a deep breath.

There’s a reason they resigned Vick in the first place.

There’s a reason he named Vick the starter.

He looked at the film and realized Foles was not the best option.

You need a running threat at QB for this offense to work against decent teams.

Plus, Boney James stinks. Fat Boy showed you how to stop him…

DCar
DCar
October 21, 2013 11:11 am
Reply to  bsmvideos

Boney James? Ain’t heard that in awhile. LOL!!!!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 21, 2013 7:19 am

Matt Barkley can be released now.
The Eagles lost 100% because Nick Foles could not complete a pass.
If Josh Freeman has a pulse tonight Howie needs to be fired for not picking up his waiver contract.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 21, 2013 7:29 am

QB returns as the #1 off season need,
replacing Nate Allen 2nd,
CB third,
Pass rusher 4th.
removal of expensive Reid players Jason Avant, Todd Herremans, Brandon Graham and Trent Cole 5th, 6th, 7th, & 8th.

paulman
paulman
October 21, 2013 7:57 am

Though I am a Foles Supporter, he is not ready for Prime-Time yet and as wide open at the NFC East is, I Play Vick at QB for he gives the Eagkes their Best Chance to Win in 2013..
As disappointing as Fokes was today,
This Eagłes OL was just as bad, against a very thin
Cowboy DL.. McCoy had little a room to run,
And why Todd Herremans is still starting for this Club is beyond me..
RGIII has his kegs back and the Redskins are coming on
But other NFC Teams losing like the Bears,Lions
Still leaves the Door open and even for a Wildcard Spot as ridiculous as this may sound.. Eagkes have 5 NFC Conference Gamesz versus the Packers,Bears, Lions & Vikings and Cardinals
and could possibly go 3-2 or 4-1 in these Contest’s
As well as 4-2 within the NFC East and still make it in..
Bottom line for me for 2013, since they decided to resign Vick,
You may as well play him and see what happens
I would have preferred a complete rebuilding Season
Myself with the Younger Players playing, but Chip already made that decision months ago to try to win now in 2013..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
October 21, 2013 10:31 am

what are you crying about? Mike Vick is not playing because he is hurt, Mike Vick didn’t play last year because he was hurt. Just because Kevin Kolb and Nick Foles appear to more fragile than him doesn’t mean the fan base should except fragility at QB in Mike Vick. Just because a motor cycle gang is more vicious we should accept the the less vicious black street gang poisoning our city. No I don’t want either now. Mike Vick or the even less durable Nick Foles.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 21, 2013 10:55 am

I see you took Foles balls out your mouth…at least for a week!

gmcliff
gmcliff
October 22, 2013 8:13 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Thats how he is Real. He isn’t even an Eagles fan…look at his name.

gmcliff
gmcliff
October 22, 2013 8:15 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

He has Howies balls in his mouth too. You just love those sweet, and tart gummies don’t you E0S?….LOL!!!!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
October 21, 2013 11:04 am

But you are a flim flam fan! No loyalty, all for Foles, he stinks it up, now you just kick him to the curb…you couldn’t have played sports, you’d be the worst teammate.

haveacigar
haveacigar
October 21, 2013 10:31 am

We are 7 games into the Kelly era and we are no closer to knowing who our qb is/will be. One game is not an indictment of Foles career but as everyone stated he was beyond awful. Everyone hasa bad game but in such a huge spot for him and the team makes it look pretty ominous. So play it out with him? See if he can recover, if he can’t then you know what the off season looks like. If he recovers then we can get other parts. Either way Vick can’t and won’t be back… Of course no one in their right mind thought he’d be back this year…