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Another Big Day For Nick Foles In Eagles 27-13 Victory

The Eagles got a well-deserved victory yesterday against the Green Bay Packers.  The key to the game was the big plays by the Nick Foles, DeSean Jackson and Riley Cooper in the Eagles passing game.  Foles completed only 12 passes out of 18 attempts for 228 yards with three of the completions going for touchdowns.  His quarterback rating was 149.3.

He was fortunate to complete the first touchdown pass.  It  was under thrown and should have been picked off, but two Green Bay defenders ran into themselves and Jackson caught the deflection for a touchdown.  It was a matter of things going well for Foles.  Jackson did a good job of staying with the throw.

On the second touchdown throw, Foles intentionally under threw Cooper, who did a great job of coming back to the ball.  We’ve seen under throws be utilized in the back-shoulder fade, so Foles and Cooper are hooking up with the under throws.  Foles tends to put a lot of air under his deep throws and Cooper does a great job of adjusting to the ball in the air.

On the third touchdown pass, Cooper ran a nice post corner and left the cornerback frozen on a path to the post.

I like the way Foles slid to his right while in the pocket and hit Cooper who had altered his route during the play, when he saw his quarterback was in trouble.

This duo has a chemistry and they’re getting the job done.  They’re making big plays in an unconventional way, but they’re doing it week and week out.  Cooper has come down with five touchdown catches in two weeks.  Foles has passed for 634 yards and ten touchdown passes in two weeks.  Since the 1960 season, only New England great Tom Brady (11 in 2007) and Tom Flores (11 in 1963) threw more touchdowns in the last two-games.

Foles has put himself in a very special group.  He has thrown 16 touchdown passes this season without any interceptions, which is amazing.

1. Peyton Manning (20) 2013

2. Nick Foles (16) 2013

3. Milt Plum (16) 1960

4. Don Meredith (14) 1966

5. Randall Cunningham (14) 1998

I congratulate him on his tremendous performance, but I am still not willing to commit to not drafting a quarterback with the Eagles first pick.  Foles could play well enough to change my mind, but I’m not there yet.

He’s the Eagles starter the rest of the way and has the Birds in position to make the playoffs. Foles has proven he can be a good NFL quarterback with the right people around him, but can he be a franchise quarterback, who can carry the team when the guys around him aren’t playing well.  Can he be the quarterback that leads the Eagles to a Super Bowl title?

Stay tuned.

GCOBB

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Jundabus
Jundabus
November 11, 2013 9:11 am

Garry, if Foles was a mobile qb and didn’t look so goofy you, and the rest of the media, would be crowning Foles the next big thing based on the numbers he is putting up.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 11, 2013 9:40 am
Reply to  Jundabus

Or if he was a first round draft pick. If Ryan Lief, Ja’Marcus Russell performed like this they would have been considered an elite QB within this same time frame of playing. Fole is definitely being judged very harshly, perhaps, a little unfairly!

ridusofreid
ridusofreid
November 11, 2013 9:14 am

I agree with you Gary. He is not there yet but has shown signs of improvement. Remember this guy is essentially a rookie with the number of starts he has had. He has flaws in his game for sure but really needs to be judged at the end of the year on his progression as a QB. At the very least probably won’t cost you many games.

btc24
btc24
November 11, 2013 9:17 am

I think it’s a travesty that frauds like Songs and Vick Supporter don’t post anything anymore. I guess they’ve moved on to root for another team like the Redskins or Raiders.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 11, 2013 9:41 am
Reply to  btc24

Now you know they are not rooting for the team.

DCar
DCar
November 11, 2013 11:22 am
Reply to  btc24

Where are the 4 stooges, Songs, skayne, Theone1, & Godgotvick? Have thy gotten rid of their alters yet, or using voodoo, to get Vick his job back. F^#@ing imbeciles!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 11, 2013 9:44 am

There is something to what you are saying jundabusa. Kapernick was practically annointed as the second coming after his 4 td game vs NE last year.

When Foles threw 7 this year, there were national articles whose thesis was that Foles doing well was a sign of how bad the NFL had become. ???

One guy does well and he’s the next superstar…the other does well and its because the league has become a joke.

At some point, people will eventually have to admit that what this kid is doing isn’t just a fluke.

4 weeks ago all I was reading about was how the WR corps was shite, Cooper was a bum, Ertz was a giant mistake, Celek was a waste of a roster spot and the oline wasn’t living up to expectations.

Now suddenly the Offense is setting passing records.

So what are the choices….everyone on the team suddenly transformed from complete garbage into elite players, or does the kid have something going on?

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 10:15 am

Has anyone noticed that nobody says a word about the fact that Kapernick just play the worse game at quarterback of the year.

Kapernick’s 91 yards on 22 pass attempts with an interception and a 42.0 quarterback rating was worse than Foles game vs Dallas.

Hmmm…. I guess even superstar mobile lay an egg sometimes.

Perhaps Harbaugh should replace him with Mike Vick. lol

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 11, 2013 4:14 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

So the panthers relentless pressure had nothing to do with that? That defensive effort was savage yesterday. Watch the games not the highlights bro. No Vernon Davis no Crabtree either.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 4:57 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

I do watch Big!

Tell me, what was his excuse for a 20.1 QB rating vs Seattle and a 49.9 rating vs the Colts?

Kaepernick spends too much time worrying about being passed over in the draft and not enough time worrying about playing well consistently.

The read/option put him in the super bowl last year because teams were not prepared defensively. That won’t be happening again. He wont be rushing for 264 yards in this years playoffs. He better start to pass the ball better.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 5:05 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Other thing Big…. the Panthers bring relentless pressure in every game, but the don’t shutdown QBs like the did Keapernick. Not even the Bucs rookie Mike Glennon.

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 11, 2013 5:33 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

You did see what Seattle’s defense did to Matt Ryan and the job the Colts defense did against the Broncos right?

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 11, 2013 10:34 am

Would we admit Kaepernick is on a better team than the Eagles? (At least D and Oline)

First 10 starts:

Kapernick
6 wins
13 passing tds
7 interceptions
2297 passing yards
1 300 yard passing game
367 rushing yards
2 rushing tds
4x held under 14 points
4x scored over 30 pts

Nick Foles
4 wins
21 passing tds
4 ints
2490 passing yards
4 300 yard passing games
119 rushing yards
2 rushing tds
3x held under 14 points
3x over 30 points

One is a Superstar, on the cover of every 2nd sports magazine.

The other is only a product of the the league becoming a joke. We’re “not sure yet” if he can be good.

Pretty ridiculous.

mhenski
mhenski
November 11, 2013 11:00 am

Riley Cooper has caught 15 passes for 393 yards and six touchdowns from Nick Foles this season.
Although Michael Vick has attempted five more passes than Foles this year, Cooper has just eight catches for 93 yards and one touchdown from the Week 1 starter. It’s blatantly obvious that Foles has far more confidence in Cooper and proved it Sunday by chucking a bomb to him despite double coverage.

mhenski
mhenski
November 11, 2013 11:06 am
Reply to  mhenski

Riley “Nelson” averaging 26.2 yards per catch with foles and 12.4 with vick. Foles cant throw deep – HAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAA

Shady wont be able to run without vick HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 11:08 am
Reply to  mhenski

wonder why Vick, may have a little less confidence in a Cooper…a guy he threw a bomb too in the playoff game against green bay who didnt fight for the ball…then finds out he dropped the N bomb…wonder why there may be a lack of confidence…may not like where i am going with that, but it’s real talk!

mhenski
mhenski
November 11, 2013 11:17 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

shows what type of player mike is if true. hold grudges because he used the N word just like he does every day. hold a grudge for years because of a dropped pass.

sounds about right from a loser like vick

haveacigar
haveacigar
November 11, 2013 11:19 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

What? Coopers rookie season a seriously under thrown ball he didn’t get to. Then his issue this year Vick was his biggest defender. All Vick wants to do is win! If he was a good QB he would have found hin

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 11:26 am
Reply to  haveacigar

You guys again fail to view anything in anyone else perspective but your own…The ignorance is baffling…Lets not crown Cooper anything special just yet…The last two games, he’s play very well no doubt…But lets just see if he keeps it up…

The ball wasn’t under thrown enough to the point where you don’t make a play on the ball as if your a corner back…I don’t believe the QB has anything to do with Cooper’s new found success…A little luck (WR’s falling down, blown coverages) and a little more gained experience sounds more logical to me…

mhenski
mhenski
November 11, 2013 11:42 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

last 2 games? try 4 out of the last 5 games. with the down game being a game where vick played then barkley played.

with foles at qb cooper looks like a pro bowl caliber wr, with vick at qb he looks like pee wee herman

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 11:45 am
Reply to  mhenski

So the credit of Cooper’s play goes to Foles…nothing to do with Cooper or the defense coverage? its all about Foles? So where has Avant gone? What about Celek? Ertz?

btc24
btc24
November 11, 2013 11:24 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

Real Talk = Stupid Talk

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 11:28 am
Reply to  btc24

yea get mad at me, because some idiot came off racist as hell in a video…and there still may be some issues…

BTC….you are just missing the “I” and the “H”….B I T C H

pheags88
pheags88
November 11, 2013 11:36 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

I thought Vick was all about forgiveness and second chances tho…but now you are basically saying he is a fraud cause he holds grudges in regard to people that make mistakes? Where would Vick be today if the Eagles/NFL held grudges toward him after his mistakes?

He can’t have it both ways.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 11:38 am
Reply to  pheags88

you’re right Pheags…

I’m not saying Vick thinks that at all…But I do think a valid question could be, is Cooper a little more focused playing a littler harder with Foles in than Vick…Why was he unable to get separatiion in the earlier games…why wasn’t he running around uncovered in the earlier games? Does him running around uncovered have anything to do with the QB or the defensive coverage….bottom line in my opinion its not about the QB….the play of Cooper is all about Cooper

mhenski
mhenski
November 11, 2013 11:45 am
Reply to  pheags88

say what???????????

you arent saying vick thinks that????? 10 minutes ago you wrote he does think that. what are you talking about?

regarding cooper not getting open with vick or being focused with vick is hilarious… haaaaaaaaaa the smerf couldnt see him or was too busy running in circles and turning his back to the line of scrimmage.

maybe riley is so racist he refused to try hard with vick at qb but now that he is a white qb he is really trying hard.haaaaaaaaaaaaaa

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 11:49 am
Reply to  pheags88

When you said that Foles has more confidence in Cooper…I was simply just trying to state why that may be the case…Don’t make it any deeper than that…something I thought you cats would be able to rationalize and see some possible truth…
Instead of saying why Vick may not have confidence I simply should of said, is Cooper playing harder and more focused with Foles in rather than Vick

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 11:50 am
Reply to  pheags88

yea maybe he is!

antitrust32
antitrust32
November 11, 2013 12:31 pm
Reply to  pheags88

Cooper could be more confident in the offense and his route running at this point in the season. I also remember a Chip Kelly presser after the Tampa game when Chip was saying that Cooper had been open times in the beginning of the year and the ball just wasnt thrown his way. Could be many different reasons but the kid has decent hands, he’s a great blocker and his confidence is sky high, so lets hope it keeps happening!

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 11:44 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

There’s that theory as to why Vick can’t connect with Copper – And then there’s the TRUTH.

The TRUTH is that Vick is too inaccurate to throw to receivers that are not WIDE OPEN. Vick is too insecure to throw into a tight window.

Cooper is only open coming out of his cuts – Vick is busy looking for a running lane by that time…

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 11:51 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

yea Cooper was coming out of his cuts on the TD throw that thrown inaccurately by his ankles that he caught and rolled into the end zone with….true! you’re right…

mhenski
mhenski
November 11, 2013 11:52 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

real talk irish.

cooper is trying harder with foles HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
November 11, 2013 12:00 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Could it be that Cooper has just gotten better because he has had more consistent playing time with Maclin out this year and his chemistry could be better because he took a lot of 2nd team reps with Foles early last season.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 12:10 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

@bugs…no it can’t its because Foles is the QB, that’s why Cooper is producing more…

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 12:10 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

All 28 receptions Cooper has were under-thrown balls at his ankles?

Oh, BTW, the pass that Vick threw to Cooper in the end-zone vs the Packers in the playoffs was an under-thrown duck – The defender caught the ball out of the reach of a back-peddling Cooper.

Leave it up to you to blame that limp arm duck pass on Copper. lol

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 12:14 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

yea Foles threw all 28 passes to Cooper? you’re the one that tried shitting on Vick’s accuracy, and when a throw and example to you about Foles throwing an innacurate ball that was caught at the ankle, to contradict shit you earlier posted, you’re upset….I get it!
Also a 6 for 12 start would of had you cats screaming for Vick’s dismissal from the game…you cats are hilarious!

HAHA Vick limp armed…..this man has lost his mind!

mhenski
mhenski
November 11, 2013 12:35 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

foles to cooper 15 catches 393 yards & 6 tds
vick to cooper 13 catches 15 162 yards & 1 td

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 12:38 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

ok genious, so now incorporate Avan’ts receiving stats, that’s gone down with Foles (not saying that’s a problem, as long as passes are being caught, but considering you’re hung up on QB vs QB in comparison to Cooper)….how about Celeks….Ertz…? let me know what those numbers show….

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 12:39 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

genius

E-money
E-money
November 12, 2013 12:05 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

I’m guessing Cooper became a racist because of Michael Vick.

He was successful in college with Tebow, but then all of a sudden he’s in the NFL and Mike Vick is the starter, and Cooper hardly ever gets the ball. Then all of a sudden this summer rolls around and Cooper is catching a lot of passes from Foles, but hardly any from Vick. Finally, he hears Vick is going to be the QB, he has a a few too many, and he let’s the N-word slip out of frustration….

Just kdding, I wanted to add a kooky story like RealTalk.

btc24
btc24
November 11, 2013 5:32 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Wow, that was a dynamite comeback RealTalk. How long did it take you to come up with that?

Stevo
Stevo
November 11, 2013 11:01 am

agree Vin- Kap is struggling. He’s on a good team… i have to say tho… I dont hear much about him anymore. Do you?

Bottom line is… an NFLqb who can light up sportscenter or one who says dumb things finds themselves on the high;ights.

I think Foles is getting some love… as he should. He will get more if he wins against a team that is making noise. I want to see that rematch with the cowpatties. btw…. im close to ordering my FOles jersey…. never did that for you know who. I like what Im seeing…. he needs to keep this up.

E-money
E-money
November 11, 2013 11:14 am

Great post.
Young quarterbacks struggle from time to time (so do old ones).
Foles looks like he can play in this league and he looks like he runs Chip’s offense efficiently. If we can dedicate our top pick to something other than QB it will help is more in the short-term.

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 12, 2013 8:33 am

Not really Vinnie why isn’t Dan Marino looked at in the same vein is Montana or Elway or a Bradshaw? It isn’t fair but Kaepernick took over and led his team to the SB, don’t you think if the Eagles make a deep playoff run that Foles will grace the cover of magazines? Oh wait you don’t think you just post stats.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
November 12, 2013 9:07 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Hit the nail on the head Big. Kap was great down the stretch and in the playoffs. Then the media latched on to him and made him a star. You guys know how this thing works. Definitely struggling this year when he is being forced to be a pocket passer.

skayne
skayne
November 11, 2013 11:14 am

Kapernick won games last year against the Bears, a 10 win team with a top 10 defense, and won in NE against a twelve win team with a future Hall of Famer at qb. He also had to go against a top team and defense in Seattle. His team went all the way to the SB, with good offensive performances in every playoff game. Didn’t get lucky enough that the only winning team he faced was missing it’s top 2 Qbs. Maybe if Foles leads his team to at least the playoffs, he’ll get the kudos you think he deserves.

On our team the defense hasn’t given up more than 21 with him in. That must be because Foles plays defense when I’m not watching. His wounded ducks didn’t get picked off, one even going for a td. Foles was so good against GB, he knew that when he fumbled, the defense would stop GB. So that fumble was actually him being able to predict the future. Nah, his stats really tell the tale of how great he played.

Since Foles is better than Kapernick, and the defense is playing well, and the schedule is managable, he can get us to the playoffs, right? Vick is hurt and probably won’t be back. McNabb made it his second year. So did Kapernick. Nah, I’m being an unreasonable. It’s an impossible standard to meet.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 11:27 am
Reply to  skayne

On our team the defense hasn’t given up more than 21 with him in. That must be because Foles plays defense when I’m not watching.

When you were making up negatives to say about Foles after the Giants win – I recall you saying that Foles gave-up a lead… So sometimes you must think Foles plays defense . You prejudice hater!

paulman
paulman
November 11, 2013 11:36 am
Reply to  skayne

Take a look at this Years Version of Kapernick now that Teams and DC’s that prepare and Game Plan for him.. Keep your DE’s Wide, Keep Containment and let Kapernick in the Pocket and what has he done..
Against some Good Defense’s like the Seahawks,Colts & Panthers, Kapernick and the 49ers Offense has been pathetic..
I don’t Blame this all on Kapernick who I think is an young exciting NFL QB but as many were so quick to put him in the HOF after a Great Start late last Season, now there is Tape on him and how to Defend him so now he has to adjust his game and his Coaches need to adjust their Schemes,formations, etc,etc..
The same will happen with Foles and more and more Teams realize that Vick is not longer the QB for the Eagles, that they can throw their Vick Defensive Schemes away and begin game-plannig for Foles and a Pocket Passrer..
This is Todays NFL, the Teams with Coaches and a Staff who make Adjustments the Best will be in better position to Win..

andrew p
andrew p
November 11, 2013 11:46 am
Reply to  skayne

What are u trying to say? It seems like u have an issue with Foles, I thought it was about the Eagles? As for Kap, how did he do last night? As for Foles, he’s in the Hall of Fane and the history books from playing the last two games, his latest feat was being the first QB in history to have a 149 or higher QB rating in two consecutive weeks, he’s 3-1 in games he started this year, all this while playing in a brand new system, how in the world can u be saying anything negative about him right?

antitrust32
antitrust32
November 11, 2013 12:40 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Andrew p, I’m new to posting here eventhough I’ve been reading this site for a couple years now. I respect you man. You are a real fan. You root for Vick, or Foles, or whoever is in there. You just want Eagles wins! Hope you are well, man, and Let’s Go Eagles!!!

pheags88
pheags88
November 11, 2013 11:47 am
Reply to  skayne

LAst year, the 49ers had the best overall talent from top to bottom. Dont get me wrong I think Kapernick can play, but if he was drafted by the Eagles he wouldn’t have all those wins. Do you honestly think Kapernick would have gone to the Super Bowl with last years Eagles team or this Eagles team…get a fucking clue

And as Irish pointed out, weren’t you the guy that said Foles gave up the lead in the giants game, basically suggesting he was a defensive player. But now you say this BS lmao…Just admit you don’t like Foles cause he is white. The majority of people know it, at least have the balls to admit you are a racist. Because seriously, what real/non-racist Eagles fan would bring up Foles fumble with the way he is playing right now….his ONLY turnover this year….but yet you bring that up and just conveniently ignore his overall stats which are some of the best in NFL history.

skayne
skayne
November 11, 2013 12:19 pm
Reply to  pheags88

Good team? Yeah, funny how you need those in order to win. So I guess Vick shouldn’t have been expected to win either, since he actually played on the team. That would be the logical conclusion based on your reasoning. Somehow I still think you blame Vick.

But pay attention to the games. The great defense didn’t play so well against Brady. In the playoffs, they gave up about 30 points a game, so he didn’t have lights out defense in the playoffs either.

And we lost the lead with Foles cuz the offense had 3 three and outs in the third quarter. His only td drives came off defensive turnovers.

antitrust32
antitrust32
November 11, 2013 12:35 pm
Reply to  skayne

There have been 4 Eagles losses where Foles was not the QB, if he can overcome that and the team goes to the playoffs, that would be one hell of an accomplishment! Let’s hope for it!

andrew p
andrew p
November 11, 2013 11:17 am

G, here’s another historic stat for you, Foles is the first QB in history to have a QB rating of 149 or higher in two consecutive games, my question to you is, how much more does he need to prove to show he’s a legit QB? You writers and haters make me laugh, no QB in next years draft is going to come in and do what this kid is doing, everyone said give him a chance after the Dallas game, we did and look at the results, enough said!

Stevo
Stevo
November 11, 2013 11:25 am

skayne nailed it here. Kap won big games last year… he played against teams that were good. We havent had to do that yet. The 1 big game was Dallas. We thought we would have to face Rogers this week and that didnt happen.

Lots of great points all around on here today… its amazing what can happen when people stop talking about ..you know who.. for a few mins.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 11:36 am

NEWS FLASH!

Foles faced the Packers defense – Foles never was going to play against Rogers! Rogers plays offense – The defense was going to face Rogers.

Foles had the highest quarterback rating of any opposing quarterback to ever play at Lambeau. He did it against the Packers defense.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 11:41 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

Foles played solid and I’m impressed..Victories is all I care about…Now the Eagles are the favorite in the East….Win Now, still exists with Foles!…But had Vick only completed 12 passes and ran for 75 yards we’d be hearing that, he can’t throw for over 300 and instead of running he should of thrown the ball…we’d also be hearing about the fumble, even in a loss!

greenfan
greenfan
November 11, 2013 12:17 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

RealJOKE777….you lie. You have proven above that victories are NOT all that you are about. You have spent multiple posts providing excuses for Foles success…..going as far as to say that Vick holds a grudge against Cooper and won’t throw to him. You are about tearing down Foles and trying to elevate your “man”. It is pathetic that you try and make people believe you are a fan of the team when it is only a player you care about.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 12:26 pm
Reply to  greenfan

haha, this clown..Greenbooger…you don’t know me…With Vick out, I root for the Eagles, even when Foles threw the TD pass to DJAX I celebrated, knowing it could of been picked, but was happy luck was on the Eagles side…I don’t care what you believe…provide me some shit where I tore down Foles…

What I’ve done isn’t nearly as close to what some do on here to Vick, and you have the nerve to come at me with that bullshit, so fuck you…Exactly as I’ve said, you’re a clown that only speaks up to those that defend Vick..which is exactly what I’ve done again here today, because cats want to say Cooper is playing better because of Foles…. If you don’t believe it has more to do with Cooper than the Qb, than you don’t know football…and if you want to close an eye to the elephant that will follow Cooper his entire career than so be it! that’s your right!

Shut your bitch ass up!

greenfan
greenfan
November 11, 2013 12:56 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Give it a break you little girl. Look, go take you MV poster down, he is through and you look like a crying bitch throwing a temper tantrum. To try and say that you have spent this morning providing positive comments on Foles is a joke.

The fact that you don’t understand that every QB has his favorite targets….every QB. And often a QB that has been a backup will have better success with a backup reciever because they spend more time throwing with each other. I have never been much of a Cooper fan. I have believed that since his rookie year he has underachieved, that someone with his size and speed should have been everything we were looking for, but instaed we got the stiff that didn’t go after the ball in the GB playoff game. The fact that Foles play has sparked Cooper may be in their experience together as back-up’s, know more easily what the other will do in certain situiations, and it may also be in the type of ball that Foles throws. Compared with Vick, Foles ball looks to be more catchable, more touch, where Vick has a very strong arm that makes some of the closer throws difficult to catch.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 12:59 pm
Reply to  greenfan

See me and see if you calling me a girl to my face…you little fake bitch…not man enough to just simply state, that you feel the same as those that hate on Vick…no instead you tip toe and try to act as if you’re a smart guy, using ignorantly selective methods to speak your case…you’re a fraud…

greenfan
greenfan
November 11, 2013 1:13 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

I don’t hate Vick. I have said that repeatedly and if that was MV playing this well the past couple weeks, I would be just as happy on a Monday morning because this team would be in 1st place in the NFC East and things are starting to go well for Kelly’s new coaches and team.

As I have stated, I HATE THE VICK-TROLLS. I hate that they turn every thing that this team does into a debate about MV. Mike Vick has played with a high level of class and leadership, something that the VICK-TROLLS know nothing about. I could go on, but anyone familiar with this board knows the guys and girl that I am talking about.

So I will continue to call you a little girl, the same way you call others bitches. You think that your opinion is the only one that is REAL….well guess what, you are simply fooling yourself. Soon all of the trolls will disappear and we can get back to debating the full issues this team has, not just the backup QB. So pull out your MV doll and have a tea party little girl, the Eagles are getting ready for the Redskins and we don’t need to hear about why our QB is a fraud. He isn’t, but you are.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 1:01 pm
Reply to  greenfan

haha you dumb ass….The fact that you don’t understand that every QB has his favorite targets

WTF did you think I was referring to when I said Avants number have gone down while Coopers went up…you stupid fuck…you don’t read or comprehend shit, that’s your problem!

greenfan
greenfan
November 11, 2013 1:17 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Maybe you wrote that about Avant in another post, because it isn’t in the posts I responded to……or maybe Denny changed your post to make you look stupid…..did you call yourself a name again….lol what a stupid shit….hahaha

mhenski
mhenski
November 11, 2013 1:19 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

UNREAL Head COach Chip Kelly just said Cooper was just as open in all the other games where Nick Foles was NOT the starting QB.

Thats crazy. WOW

antitrust32
antitrust32
November 11, 2013 1:15 pm
Reply to  greenfan

Hey greenfan, I’m a girl and I believe I can talk football with the best of ’em! I’ve been reading this site for years, almost daily, especially during football season. I wish we could all enjoy Eagles victories. Though the media wants to sell papers (or in this day in age, get clicks on a website) so I guess I get it! Either way, this team seems to be playing with some heart, and we even had some bounces go our way yesterday (when’s the last time our team is the one to get some lucky breaks!!).

greenfan
greenfan
November 11, 2013 1:21 pm
Reply to  antitrust32

great…congratulations….no doubt there a millions of female football fans….and a ton of female Eagles fans. As far as I am concerned the more Eagles fans the better!! From your name I assume you are an attorney?

antitrust32
antitrust32
November 11, 2013 2:04 pm
Reply to  antitrust32

I work in the insurance business.. the screen name is the name of my favorite race horse when I used to work at the racetrack as a kid. Went to my first game at age 6 (the snowball game), then my father got season tickets when I was 10, i feel like I grew up at the Vet and the Linc. Also, I’m a University of Arizona grad, and I’m more than trilled my fellow alum Nick Foles is an Eagle! I live far from Philly now but still try and make it to 2-3 games per year. I bleed so much green that my Monday happiness is determined by Sunday’s results! Go Birds!

greenfan
greenfan
November 11, 2013 3:10 pm
Reply to  antitrust32

I agree antitrust….there is nothing like waking up on a Monday morning after the Eagles win on Sunday!! You can have the worst day or week ahead, and it does not matter, it is a great morning!!

Sadly, the converse seems to be true also after a loss!! But today it was a win!!! GO BIRDS!!

Zukny
November 11, 2013 12:19 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Vick is a 10 year veteran and Foles is a 10 game starter. That’s your first difference.

The second one is that Vick would have passed for 120 and ran for 75. He would not have passed for 230 because he wouldn’t have been able to find Cooper. He checks Djax and if he ain’t open he runs!

Just needed to point that out

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 12:29 pm
Reply to  Zukny

haha…yea he may have found Celek and pretty good chance he would of found Avant, considering Avant was Vick’s second best target behind DJAX…something you cats forget to realize…

Zukny
November 11, 2013 3:30 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

Quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The stats show that Avant & Celek have not seen any decrease in passes since Foles has been the Quarterback. Also note 2 of Celek’s 3 touchdowns came while Foles was the QB.

skayne
skayne
November 11, 2013 12:32 pm
Reply to  Zukny

If Vick was the Qb Desean would have been running under the pass, instead of catching it off the hands of the Packers DBs.

Find Cooper? He was hardly open in the games Vick played. If he was as open as he was against the Packers, he would get the ball. The real difference is that with Vick, Cooper wouldn’t have hurt himself coming back for the ball, since the throw would have the strength to make it to the endzone. Vick has made ton of those throws, the post route away form a single safety are his bread and butter. The receiver doesn’t have to twist himself backwards cuz the throw lost steam.

All these replies to me, when it was Kapernick I was comparing Foles to. And since he’s supposedly better than Vick, he can get us to the playoffs right? Vick and Kapernick were able to do it their second year.

antitrust32
antitrust32
November 11, 2013 12:45 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

If Vick went 12-18 (66%) and threw for 3 TD’s and a 149 QB rating, and the Eagles won, we’d all be thrilled! Or at least I would be. Foles played terrific yesterday (not his fault only 18 pass plays were needed). As did Shady, and the defense. Been really impressed with Nate Allen lately also, if he can continue his improved play we might not need to upgrade that spot. I love when the Eagles win and yesterday was an entire team victory!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
November 11, 2013 12:57 pm
Reply to  antitrust32

I believe you would of been thrilled Antitrust32…unfortunately, there’s 5-10 others posters on here, that would be finding some fault in the game…for the record, I’m happy with Foles and especially happy that the Eagles have a real shot at the playoffs!

Like you I love when the Eagles win…I’ve really enjoyed watching this Eagles defense as of late..haha, I haven’t been able to say that in years! haha!

antitrust32
antitrust32
November 11, 2013 1:05 pm
Reply to  RealTalk777

You know whats the best? They actually TACKLE!!! When we have a one on one situation, I actually expect the Eagle to make a good clean tackle! For the past few years you knew it would be a 50/50 chance at best that a tackle was made. I dont know what it is, but the fundamentals have really seemed to improve. All this talk about Chip Kelly being an offensive genius… well maybe some of his defensive practice techniques are genius! I swear i read that he doesnt have the players hit as much during practice, maybe it is helping to keep those bodies strong and not bruise up all week long tackling your own teammates. I could be reaching with that but I just love the improvements on D!

Zukny
November 11, 2013 3:33 pm
Reply to  antitrust32

The last time Vick had a QBR of 130 or better was in 2009 against the Atlanta Falcons.

Vick went 2 for 2 and had a QBR of 158.3

Stevo
Stevo
November 11, 2013 11:45 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

relax Irish… same team same team!!!

I agree with you. look over the thread again to see what I was talking about.. hint- the media.

skayne
skayne
November 11, 2013 12:02 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

NEWSFLASH!

Foles faced the Packers defense, which isn’t very good. Yet our offense could only muster a Foles wounded duck that bounced off a Packer into Desean’s hands for a td, and a field goal at halftime. Foles is so good, he knew it would bouce off the Packers DBs and into Desean’s hands. As I said, he can tell the future.

Multiple times he threw up prayers while getting hit or pressured. Riley had to hurt himself getting back to one. The fumble was also a great play. Another example of clairvoyance. The Packers did what every team with sense does when they play us. Play up tight and take away the built-in screen, smoke and hitch routes. Force him to make stick downfield throws. Other than the first td to Cooper he couldn’t make those throws. Luckily for us none of the prayers got picked off. But his boxscore numbers were great. That means I’m supposed to ignore what actually happened.

Writers like Tommy Lawlor, Sheil Kapadia, and Jeff McClane said essentially the same thing. We got the win. But another great performance? Nah, I actually watched the game, not a boxscore.

DCar
DCar
November 11, 2013 12:23 pm
Reply to  skayne

Beat it fraud! You ain’t a Birds fan. After all of the fights you Vick apologists had with vinnie, & you all show your hypocritical colors, & do the same $#!t! You just aren’t happy, that your hero isn’t getting the wins. Sickening! Listen, in no way, do I think Foles is the next superstar in the NFL, but some of you cats are nauseating phonies!

skayne
skayne
November 11, 2013 12:43 pm
Reply to  DCar

Hey nimrod, my first post was about Kapernick and Foles, who the Vick haters were whining about not getting the credit Foles deserves. My post said Vick is most likely not starting again.

But the Vick haters, like you, BorishEagle, and others brought up Vick, because any post that says Vick isn’t coming back, while talking about what Kapernick actually did last season, is all about Vick! My issues with Foles has nothing to do with Vick. It’s a weak arm, limited upside. But the Vick haters bring every post to Vick, even when the comparison was Kapernick and Foles. You haters always have him on the mind, being the fraud fans you are.

So get some reading comprehension. The first post was about Kapernick and Foles. The Vick haters, like you, bring everything to Vick if Fole’s gold doesn’t get adequate

skayne
skayne
November 11, 2013 12:44 pm
Reply to  skayne

kudos, in your mind.

pheags88
pheags88
November 11, 2013 1:06 pm
Reply to  skayne

NEWSFLASH to the idiots out there…

-Foles is not perfect (esp with the inexperience he has)
-No true Eagles fan expects him to be perfect on every play, every throw, every read, however…
-Foles is by far the best QB on this team right now
-Foles is likely better than any of the QBs coming out in college up to this point
-Foles is putting up historic NFL numbers
-TD/Int ratio is ridiculous
-QB rating is I think the best in the league (btw it was the best ever by an opposing QB at GB but yet lets just focus on the small negatives)

And the only people that would consistently talk about an under thrown pass (which every NFL QB will throw here and there) or his fumble (ONLY turnover of the season) are either mentally challenged or racist toward the white QB. Anyone with a brain can see what really bothers you about the guy. Seriously, what eagles fan out there would be ignoring all the amazing things he is doing so far to just talk about an under thrown pass (in a game we won btw). There is just no other logical reason to explain people like that.

skayne
skayne
November 11, 2013 1:36 pm
Reply to  pheags88

Anyone with a brain can see your issues, since race wasn’t mentioned by me. Just you. Vick would have gotten crucified for that TO, even in a win. He had more than one duck pass. Two of those duck passes luckily landed in Eagles hands. Plus he had a TO. So he was okay not great. Without the lucky duck passes, his stats would have been bad.

Foles isn’t the best qb. He’s the healthy one. Since he lost when it came to a real competition, he didn’t have to play the Chiefs or Broncos. Maybe Vick should have lost in TC, let Foles play the Chiefs and Broncos, and played the soft part of the schedule so his stats could inflate. I’m looking at the amazing things the team is doing as well as Foles. The line has gotten better. The defense is playing better. If Foles takes us to the playoffs, like other young qbs then I’ll be sold. Not until then.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
November 11, 2013 2:23 pm
Reply to  pheags88

Co Signed!

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 1:03 pm
Reply to  skayne

But the Vick haters, like you, BorishEagle, and others brought up Vick,

No RealTalk brought up Vick and Cooper – I only mentioned Vick only in response to RealTalk.

I brought up Kapernick – and what I said was Kapernick just had a worse game than Foles had against Dallas. So apparently even proven great quarterbacks can have a bad game.

Instead of responding to that remark, you went off on a history lesson about Kapernick’s wins.

You’re a Foles hater plain and simple….

skayne
skayne
November 11, 2013 1:19 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

You were whining about the credit Foles wasn’t getting in comparison to Kapernick. That nobody is criticizing Kapernick. That’s cuz he has rope to struggle, given a SB run. Beating good teams, good Qbs, even on the road. Foles has yet to help our team to such a win.

The history lesson was to mention what Kapernick has done since you seemed to have no clue why he’s not getting criticized.

I guess pointing out Foles’s shortcomings makes me a hater. As long as you can stop pretending you’re not a Vick hater.

andrew p
andrew p
November 11, 2013 12:32 pm
Reply to  skayne

Skayne
NEWSFLASH
Foles is 3-1
Foles is the first QB in history to have a 149 or higher QB rating in 2 consecutive games
Foles is in the HOF for that 7TD game, in only 3 quarters no less
Foles is 3rd in NFL history to start the season with 16TDs n no ints
what is your problem? what ever it is, get over it! this is about the EAGLES! Your suppose to root and support the QB no matter who it is, unless your not a Eagles fan and just a Vick fan. We finally played two COMPLETE back to back games and your sitting on here complaining, if theirs anyone to complain about it should be our kicker, he’s definitely the weak link on this team right now.

antitrust32
antitrust32
November 11, 2013 12:52 pm
Reply to  andrew p

amen, man. We need to have a kicker we can have some faith in. Though I will say I’ve read a few articles that said the stadium yesterday was VERY windy, which could be the reason both kickers were having trouble. It also helps explain how one or two of foles passes caught up in the wind and hung up a little. I just dont understand how some people think he has a weak arm. Even Kelly is baffled by that assesment when asked about it. Foles has the ability to make every throw an NFL QB needs to make! Go Eagles!

greenfan
greenfan
November 11, 2013 12:59 pm
Reply to  antitrust32

YES…..we need a kicker that we can depend on. For too many years we were spoiled by Akers. This guy has been leaving too many points off the board. If we get in a close game that will haunt us. Good point andrew

skayne
skayne
November 11, 2013 1:02 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Andrewp

NEWSFLASH! The EAGLES are 3-1, not just Nick Foles. Anytime anyone points out the contribution of other players, doesn’t make them a fan of only Vick. I said this team would make the playoffs, theTEAM was good enough.

I didn’t complain about jack! People were whining that Foles isn’t getting the same attention as Kapernick. I pointed out he hasn’t lead his team to the SB, and didn’t get lucky to face one winning team missing its top 2 Qbs. Read the posts. I’m responding to those who brought Vick into the conversation. Blame them for bringing up Vick.

I want Foles to win, since he’s the starter. But if he’s compared to Kapernick, he hasn’t lead a team to the playoffs. If it’s Vick, Vick would have crushed losing teams too, and took his team to the playoffs his 2nd year as well.. But chastise the Vick haters for turning Kapernick vs. Foles, to Foles vs. Vick. I’m responding to the Vick haters, not starting it.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 11, 2013 1:29 pm
Reply to  skayne

Vick had a different hat on the sidelines again – and the logo was off center to the left. I wonder what hat Vick will wear next game?

andrew p
andrew p
November 11, 2013 2:00 pm
Reply to  skayne

I think u better look at what Kap is doing this year, he’s a below average QB.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
November 11, 2013 5:25 pm
Reply to  skayne

Excellent points Skayne! I don’t get why Vick is interjected into this discourse…he is hurt…he is not playing…His injury is going to keep him out at least another 2-3 weeks and by that time he is ready to play his timing will be off…so we might as well ride it out with Foles and see if he can lead us to the playoffs! If he cant…we need another QB

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
November 11, 2013 3:38 pm
Reply to  skayne

Funny. I said the EXACT same thing yesterday. Even pointed out the other writers who said as such.

Stevo told me to stop being biased. And well, you can guess what the others said.

I guess it sounds better coming from you. lol

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 11, 2013 10:33 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

The same Packers that Kaepernick shredded in week 1? The same Kaepernick who has struggled this year? Hmmm.

lewdoggie20
lewdoggie20
November 11, 2013 12:19 pm

I think Foles is working for everything he has accomplished this far, is a superstar….don’t think so. is he efficient? Yes. He doesn’t turn the ball over a lot and can can the ball into the receivers hands. I think he is starting to turn into a bit of a Joe Flacco type player time will tell. Just loving knowing we have a chance at playoffs after 10 games. Beat the skins this week and hitting the bye week on a high.

runtheball09
runtheball09
November 11, 2013 12:28 pm

Good grief. Yeah let’s burn a draft pick on another one of those running QB’s who last all of 10 games in the NFL. I’ve had fast food burgers that have longer shelf lives than running QB’s. Bottom line is that they don’t last and defenses can contain. QB was and ALWAYS will be a passing position.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 11, 2013 2:15 pm
Reply to  runtheball09

great line about the burger.

Zukny
November 11, 2013 3:54 pm
Reply to  runtheball09

Philly having an actual pocket passer QB is nice! I love Foles and I think he can be the franchise, but part of me worries that Chip wants to draft his own guy no matter what

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 11, 2013 1:12 pm

the offense played very well and there is very little to complain about but this is negadelphia, so here it goes:
1st and goal on the ten yard line with a minute and 33 seconds left in the half. Nick Foles runs out of bounds for two yards, throws two incompletiions which leads to a field goal. Gives Green Bay the ball back with time outs and a minute and nineteen seconds left. Ultimately GB also kicked a field goal but had 3 chances in the end zone. Horrible clock management by both Kelly and Foles which is a repeat of the San Diego game.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 1:19 pm

At his news conference today – Chip on quarterbacks: “Sixteen touchdowns, no interceptions. Why would we change?”

greenfan
greenfan
November 11, 2013 1:38 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Obviously he does not frequent GCobb com, …because there are plenty of posters on here that will tell him why….lol.

Sounds like Kelly is getting more and more comfortable with his team each week. That is a good thing Birds fans, that is a good thing!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 11, 2013 1:32 pm

Eagles are a below average TEAM, they are more entertaining than they would be if andy reid had them 5-5 or Mike Vick just went 1-3.
They have beaten last seasons record and for that: I tip my hat to Lurie, Howie and Chip. Good job

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 11, 2013 2:13 pm

Skayne: “Foles isn’t the best qb. He’s the healthy one.”

Candidate A:
1 win 4 losses
77 of 141 (55%) 1215 yrds 5 tds 3 ints 15 sacks 4 fumbles

Candidate B:
4 wins 1 loss (don’t care what anyone says, I’m giving the win to the guy who played the majority of the game and who led the team to more points)
86 of 136 (63%) 1256 yrds 16 tds 0 ints 10 sacks 1 fumble

Damn! I completely see what you mean. Don’t know what I could be looking at to possibly consider Candidate B to be the better QB. A it is…all the way.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
November 11, 2013 2:27 pm

Didn’t Chip say that you can usually just know who the starter is? Well After the Pre Season it was a Tie (yes bitches a Tie Vick won nothing in Pre season). After the games started to count—- See Vinnie’s post above!

jbird
jbird
November 11, 2013 2:31 pm

The one thing that needs to happen now is Kelly just has to stop playing games and tell Foles and the rest of the world that he is the starter. It’s over for Vick and Foles and the rest of the team need to stop focuisng on these foolish QB questions. The kid tied and NFL reecord and is second all time for most TDs without a pick. He is obviously a legitimate NFL starter. Not saying he should be fitted for a yellow blazer. Just saying he can start and win in this league and maybe even be pretty damn good one day. SO stop dicking around and name him the starter. I mean what are you going to do if he struggles with the Skins? Go back to Vick after the bye? That is pointless. Let him ride it out and see if you can save yourself a shitload of draft picks trying to chase after Mariotta.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 4:24 pm
Reply to  jbird

The one thing that needs to happen now is Kelly just has to stop playing games and tell Foles and the rest of the world that he is the starter.

I agree, but I don’t think Kelly will ever say Michale Vick lost his job and Nick Foles is now the starter.

First – I don’t think Vick did anything to lose his starting job. He got injured, he didn’t play poorly (this year) until he got injured…

Second – for Kelly to name Foles the starter would be admitting that he made a 10 million dollar mistake, and wasted the first four games of the season.

Third – Kelly can say Vick is not fully recovered until the season ends if he wants too. Why embarrass Vick by benching him (for the second year in a row) if he doesn’t have to?

jbird
jbird
November 11, 2013 2:36 pm

We may as well win the division if we can at this point. We are too far back to get a QB or the only 3-4 pass rusher (Barr) and we don’t need a top ten OT. It is WR or DB at this point and just try to create a winning atmosphere the rest of the way and see how far Foles can take us. This kid is better then Rodney Peete and he sure as hell is not another Bobby Hoying. We have done more with less.

Stevo
Stevo
November 11, 2013 2:37 pm

This is why I love GCOBB….

Birds win… Foles is the QB and the simpletons still cant let it go. Talking about what hat he wore? Sheesh- get a life guys.

WHO CARES WHO THE QB IS??? I think this will be on my grave, been saying it for like 5 years.

To review… I loved seeing our LB’s attack the LOS… when was the last time we have seen this? It felt a little like the old buddy ryan 46 D days.

To review… Our WR’s played very very well. This is not about either QB but… Djax and Cooper had to make a play on the underthrown balls (relax guys.. im not slamming foles).. and they did.

To review- 2 or 3 weeks in a row that our CB’s looked solid.

To review- Foles is making great reads and very very good throws.

To review- Chip is calling good games.. i dont care what Pman thinks this week or last week or last month or tomorrow.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 11, 2013 2:43 pm
Reply to  Stevo

“who cares who the QB is”

Well, in a QB driven league where you must have a 65% 3 to 1 td/int guy to compete….

I care.

Stevo
Stevo
November 11, 2013 3:09 pm

you STILL miss it…

The eagles this year have scored 30 points or more over and over with both QB’s. Scoring points was not the problem. Keeping QB’s from scoring IS/WAS…

So again…. we have QB’s who can score. Both of them can. I see 2 good QB’s.

So.. WHO CARES WHO THE QB IS??!!!!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 11, 2013 3:55 pm
Reply to  Stevo

“WHO CARES WHO THE QB IS??!!!!”
everyone but you ( Stevo ) here on GCobb.
Mike Vick puts a lot of effort in selecting his sideline hat and I for one appreciate it.

Stevo
Stevo
November 11, 2013 4:07 pm

and thats what makes you simple.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 11, 2013 4:11 pm
Reply to  Stevo

agreed, but you’ll be looking at the hat next game on Vick’s head now LOL —

Stevo
Stevo
November 11, 2013 4:13 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Your obsession is hurt.. and out.. and yet.. you cant get enough. You need him i guess.

If i said at the start of the year that the eagles would score 30 points MOST weeks- would you NOT have been happy?

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 11, 2013 4:23 pm
Reply to  Stevo

5 wins coming off a 4 win season is a success.
No doubt I’ll miss Vick, just like I missed “feets McNabb” and his cliches

Zukny
November 11, 2013 4:09 pm
Reply to  Stevo

Losing Kendricks was HUGE!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 11, 2013 2:42 pm

And for Realtalk

In response to someone pointing out how cooper has “improved” (like magic) you got all hiss and saying things like….what has happened to Avant? What about Celek!

Well, what about them. (granted I might be off by a catch or 2 because I didn’t do the play-by play on the Vick disaster vs NYG when he left after a couple plays or the 4th Q of the Dallas game)

Anyway…this is pretty accurate:

Avant:
With Vick 13 catches for 152
WIth Foles 14 catches for 158

Celek
With Vick 4 for 74 1 td
WIth Foles 8 for 100 2 tds

Desean
With Vick 23 for 456 2 tds
WIth Foles 24 for 488 5 tds

Cooper
With Vick 13 for 162 yards & 1 td
With Foles 15 for 393 yards & 6 tds

Damn! Just about everybody better with Foles at the helm….I wonder why that might be?

Wait I forgot….Skayne says Foles isn’t better, just healthier…..so somehow I must have it all wrong!

Zukny
November 11, 2013 4:10 pm

97.5 the Afternoon guy Mike Douchebag mica;slfj Says: Stats DON’T MATTER! We need a “mobile” QB because Chip Kelly needs one to run his system.

Foles is NOT the future nor the Franchise. He can be a good back up somewhere else.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 6:05 pm
Reply to  Zukny

Mike Missanelli is a halfass lawyer who works as a sports talkshow host. Everything he knows about NFL quarterback talent evaluation could fit into an ants ass.

What’s Ron Jaworski say?

jbird
jbird
November 11, 2013 2:42 pm

Sunday’s game is enormous. We can’t keep losing at home. We can’t drop another division/conference game. And we need to stick a fork in the Skins. No matter how you slice it though, we have to beat Dallas on December 29th. There is no chance to win the division another way. First quarter we were 1-3. Second quarter, 2-2. Third quarter 2-0. We need to keep that trend going and finish at least 3-1 and then 4-0 in the fourth quarter. These next two home games decide the season. We can finish the Skins and pass the Cards for a possible WC. If we win the next two we are going to the playoffs.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
November 11, 2013 2:47 pm

Agreed Jbird. Gotta break the streak and get another division win.

Remaining schedule
Birds:
11 – Skins
12 – bye
13 – Cards
14 – Lions
15 – @Vikes
16 – Bears
17 – @Cowgirls

Skins, Cards, Vikes are all very winnable games. Lions, Bears and Cowgirls should be good tests.

Zukny
November 11, 2013 3:18 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

people are underestimating the cards.. VERY Good Defense on that team!!!
I say:
Skins = W
Cards = L
Lions = L
Vikes = W
Bears = L
Cowgirls = W

That’s 8-8 record

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 11, 2013 3:48 pm
Reply to  Zukny

anything can happen- I never would have thought the eagles would beat Green Bay or Washington before the season and penciled in Kansas City as an easy win.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
November 11, 2013 11:42 pm
Reply to  Zukny

Good breakdown though I have the Cowboys in the toss up category. You never know what’s gonna happen with them.

DCar
DCar
November 12, 2013 1:44 am
Reply to  Zukny

We ain’t beating the Cowgirls at home Zuk. I hope so, because that game more than likely will come down to making the playoffs, or not, but I can’t see it right now. We have to see how we are playing at that time.
Skins = W
Cards = L
Lions = L
Vikes = W
Bears = L
Cowgirls = L

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
November 11, 2013 3:42 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Don’t be so sure ’bout the Cards. Their defense is legit and Palmer has been playing better ball the last couple of weeks.

paulman
paulman
November 11, 2013 4:02 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

You right TSJ,
Palmer has been playing much better and their Offense has been rejuvenated by Rookie RB Andre Ellington, & WR Andre Roberts who have been stepping up making Plays for them.. .
Coach Bruce Arians is a solid Coach who knows how to scheme and game plan with the best of them…

larrwd
larrwd
November 11, 2013 2:55 pm

Vinnie GTFOH a few of us actually liked foles from the start.. Instead of just “hoping the see something in him ” your words exactly.. So basically get of his dickk and stop with your diatribes..

DCar
DCar
November 12, 2013 1:48 am
Reply to  larrwd

Those don’t sound like useful, enlightening words, from the MENSA master. For shame!

frankdialogue
November 11, 2013 3:24 pm

I think all of this QB controversy is driven by media, and not only that, the media at the present time is the worst I can ever remember as far as sports, all mindless chatter without insight.

Any football man or fan knows that ‘franchise QB’ simply means one who has a huge contract or one who has truly showed consistency over a period of time…Eli Manning, who is similar to Foles in a number of ways, was considered a bit of a joke until he won a Super Bowl, then he gets anointed by the media (although in Manning’s case, the media never did and still don’t like him).

A real franchise QB is simply one who has the support of the organization behind him, for better or worse.

As far as Riley Cooper with Foles vs. Vick, I think there is simply a better chemistry with Foles, as he takes his time more than Vick letting receivers get open…I think Cooper did OK with Vick, but has blossomed more with Foles, simply because he gets the ball more: common sense.

BTW, I like how Michael Vick has simply kept his mouth shut during all of this, as it is a sign that he has matured…Vick will get another shot in the NFL, but as a backup, which will help him as far as not getting pounded every week.

I don’t think he would enjoy the colder weather in the CFL, although he might have a big year if he hooked up with the right CFL squad.

paulman
paulman
November 11, 2013 3:49 pm

INjuries around teh NFL to Report
Cowboys MLB Sean Lee Severe Hamstring Pull, expected to miss 3-4 Weeks and has been the most consistent Player and Signal Caller for a reeling Cowboy Defense.. Ernie SIms expected to replace him…
Bears CB C Tillman placed on 8 Week IR List for Torn Tricep
(Would be eligible for Post-Season if Bears make it that far)
Bears QB J Cutler with High-Ankle Sprain and could miss 2-3 Weeks of Action
NO Saints Safety Kenny Vacarro out with Concussion for at least 1 Game
Titans QB jake Locker injures Foot and is likely out for the Season

Packers annouce QB Scott Tolzien as the Starter for next Week
Packers also expected to bring in MAtt Flynn for a Workout since Seneca Wallace may miss 2-3 Weeks with Hamstring Pull …

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
November 11, 2013 4:53 pm

Coach Kelly does an excellent job in making adjustments! The offense line has taken their game to another level…opening up holes for Shady, So instead of running everything from the shotgun…he had Foles take snaps from under center….to help the running game. Foles made a few good plays and sometimes it is much better to be lucky than good! Big game against Washington next week! Redskins defense is extremely porous…we need this win at home to give us a leg up on the division!

greenfan
greenfan
November 11, 2013 5:22 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Koolbreeze, you hit it on the head. This team has started to play more together. We forget that these were new players in a new scheme with a new coaching staff. After 10 weeks we are seeing a more consistant team. The OL has improved and of course the defense is keeping teams out of the endzone. Kelly had those 2 weeks where his offense did not score a touchdown, but now he is looking like the adjustments he made are paying off. There were some big injuries on this team that could be the difference between a 7-9 team and a division winner in the playoffs.

Stevo
Stevo
November 11, 2013 5:16 pm

btw- Kap is like 15-5 as a starter…. i thought record is all the simpletons look at…. did this change?

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 5:30 pm
Reply to  Stevo

I’ll respond Stevo, even though I don’t consider myself a simpleton – you jackass….LOL

Actually he is 11-5 with unquestionably the best collection of talent in the entire NFL around him, particularly on defense.

And basically, his record is all that matters. He is a great athlete and a great quarterback. Which supports my original comment – even a great player like Kaepernick can have a game worse than Foles’ Dallas game. It happens…. Tom Brady has had games worse than Foles’ game against Dallas..

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 11, 2013 5:21 pm

Like I said before it is amazing how you jokers cannot get Vick off your minds, Foles and Vick don’t give a damn about all this nonsense because they are teammates in the true sense of the word. Foles continues to play well and Vick will root him on. In case of injury or ineffective play he better be ready to step in and play. The only people concerned about the QB position is the media and the nitwits on GCobb.

Stevo
Stevo
November 11, 2013 5:23 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

yes!!! thx… WHO CARES WHO THE QB IS????? yes big yes!!!

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 11, 2013 5:46 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

And I would add to that list 99% of the Eagles fans and the Eagles owner.

Most people who have any interest at all in the Eagles, have a very definite opinion about who the starting quarterback should be.

That 1% of Eagles fans who claim to not care who the starting quarterback is, are lairs.

Stevo
Stevo
November 11, 2013 5:49 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

lol- simpletons. They have a bias so.. everyone has to have a bias.

I want wins. And i think we have qbs that can get that for us.

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 11, 2013 10:41 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

No Irish people who are obsessed with who the QB is and more about whether they are right are sad people who will always find something to be unhappy about. Case in point Denny’s article about Desean.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 11, 2013 5:52 pm

Howard Eskin has reported via tweet that Nick Foles will be the starter for the remainder of the season and Vick, when healthy, will be the backup. This comes from one of Eskin’s sources inside of the Eagles staff. Take it for what it’s worth. It only makes sense though.

paulman
paulman
November 11, 2013 7:05 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Paulman already stated this 2 Weeks ago, when Foles was cleared of his Concussion, and when Owner Lurie simply stated, “we need to find out about the young QB’s on this Team or will have to go Draft one next Season”.
His Statement was perfectly clear to me, that Mike Vick would never Start another game for the aeagkes, barring an injury to Foles..
Why is this News now ?

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 11, 2013 10:44 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Eagles profootballtalk reported last week that Vick knew it was Foles job and he would be the back up. Why would we need confirmation from Eskin on something that we all knew?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 11, 2013 10:49 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

(Clearing my throat)Ohh Ohh excuse me, for now on I will seek my news from you guys first LOL

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 11, 2013 10:53 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Just giving you a hard time, but yeah check with me first. LOL

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 11, 2013 11:05 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Ok who are we taking in the 2014 draft? LOL will do.

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 11, 2013 11:39 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I gotta check with GMCliff first Eagle. LMAO

paulman
paulman
November 12, 2013 11:13 am
Reply to  Biglion821

With the 17th Overall Pick of the 2014 NFL Draft
The Philadelphia Eagles Select DE/OLB Trent Murphy from Stanford University ..
At 6-6 261 lbs, Murphy fills the need for a good Run Stuffer, Pass Rusher from the DE in a 3-4 Scheme and can also Rush the Passer from standing up from all across the formation similar to a JJ Watt, Paul Kruger, etc,etc..
His not a Drop-back and Cover LB, he is more of an attacking Pass-Rusher who also can play the Run… A Solid Pick

gmcliff
gmcliff
November 13, 2013 10:47 am
Reply to  Biglion821

GMCliff says he doesn’t know who Howie will pick.

MY Choices would be depending on where we are drafting:
Defense:
1a. Khalil Mack – 6-4 246 4.56
1b. Ha Ha Clinton Dix – 6-1 212 4.53

Offense:
1a. Mike Evans 6-5 220 4.52
1b. Austin Safarian Jenkins – 6-6 278 4.54

gmcliff
gmcliff
November 13, 2013 6:14 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

But Most Stanford players don’t make good Pro’s….MOST.

There are exceptions like Andrew Luck, but most are college system players exclusively.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
November 11, 2013 11:51 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

If folk weren’t so obsessed there’s no real scenario where it makes since for Vick to be the starter again…even if Foles plays badly.

We’re down to the last six games of the season and Vick still isn’t likely healthy enough to play even after the bye. You’re gonna start a guy that’s missed the bulk of the season, that’s on a one year deal over the guy who “may” be the starter next year this late in the season?

It’s common sense at this point…but folk still have Vick on the brain.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 12, 2013 3:32 am
Reply to  tsjohnson5

It was common sense week 1.

andrew p
andrew p
November 11, 2013 6:09 pm

Lets give some credit to Bill Davis, here’s a guy who turned around a D we all can agree that is below average, we had Sean Mcdermott here who couldn’t do anything, now he’s flourishing in Carolina, we had that D back coach from here last year, I forgot his name, who was worse then Castillo, he goes to Arizona and is doing good, not one of those guys could cut it here or turn these players around, that goes to show how well Davis has been as our D coord.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 11, 2013 6:20 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Todd Bowles, the climate here was just hard, players that did not care (DRC-Nnamdi) and coaches and coordinators who had their own agendas, Mudd and Mr. Wide 9, to much upheavel and lack of chemistry destroyed any chance of a competent cohesive defensive unit coming together. Bill Davis said to trust him, so far he has done a very good job. I must admit, I wasn’t fond of the Davis hiring, but he is performing well…Kudos!

mhenski
mhenski
November 11, 2013 8:29 pm

-Foles – 12/18, 228 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 149.3 rating…Eagles win 27-13
-It was the biggest margin of victory by an opposing team at Lambeau Field in seven years.
-149.3 passer rating is the highest ever by an visiting quarterback against the Packers – either at Lambeau Field or at County Stadium in Milwaukee, where the Packers used to play three times a year.
-Foles in the 2nd half: 6/6 for 113 yards and 2 TDs
-Foles became the 1st QB in NFL history to record a passer rating of 149 or better in consecutive games (13th QB to do it twice in a season)
-Foles has 16 TDs and 0 INTs on the season [only Peyton Manning (this season) has thrown more TDs in a season before his 1st INT ever]
-Foles has a 132.5 passer rating after 10 games, that’s the 2nd highest ever among QB’s who’ve thrown at least 100 passes (Brady had a 134.0 after 10 games in ’07)
-Foles has 10 TDs and 12 incompletions in the last two games
-QB’s this year with 16+ TD passes: Manning, Brees, Romo, Stafford, Rivers, Dalton, Wilson, Ryan, Foles. That’s it. Foles has played in 4.5 games.
That about settles it, right? Nick Foles is the best of the young quarterbacks and in time probably the greatest to ever grace an NFL field. Just like that guy who got beat up by Hugh Douglas says — numbers never lie.
Maybe it’s the high of a spectacular two-game winning streak over the powerhouse Raiders and the Packers on their practice squad quarterback, but Foles has the opportunity to truly create something great this season. Something bigger than statistics. Much of the NFC is sliding (Cowboys, Niners, Falcons, Bears, Packers) and the enigmatic (and underrated) Eagles are in a place where they could do damage if they get hot late in the year. Closing the regular season and clinching the division at Dallas before starting a playoff run doesn’t seem out of the question. An improving defense, top-tier running game, wildcard coach, and red-hot quarterback? The world is in your hands, Nick!

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
November 11, 2013 9:58 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I’m all in.. E.A.G.L.E.S. EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jakedog
jakedog
November 13, 2013 7:45 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Is that your work mhenski. Compiling those stats, excellent work man, and it leads to the obvious question, statistically there’s no or little argument that Nick Foles is the best young qb to debut but you hear he’s not this or that notwithstanding his superlative record, why is that, I am seeking knowledge like Diogenes the dog, onto, because I know the answer

The opportunists, the money people, the media know that to get ahead in their business it’s about the black qb, stuffed down our throats, it’s the promotion and it’s sickening for blacks and whites who care about integrity. equal opportunity for all based on ability

mhenski
mhenski
November 13, 2013 9:59 pm
Reply to  jakedog

nah copied & pasted from barstoolsports

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
November 11, 2013 10:19 pm

The focus on Foles really undermines what is really at the basis of the Eagles improvement. The Eagles have the best running back in the NFL…Shady McCoy! Shady is the key to the emergence of the Eagles offense! Kelly’s has done an excellent job of making adjustments and calls to help the running game…the offensive line has stepped up giving Foles all the time in the world to scan the field and forcing cornerbacks to cover much longer.
We have yet to see Foles in a tough game where he is challenged to produce under pressure. Shady running has effectively taken a lot pressure off of Foles and he is leading the Eagles offense to new heights. Foles in this last game once again showed that his arm is weak…he barely ducked throwing numerous interceptions…but once again…every team and QB needs a little luck…the bottom line is the O-line and the running game…that’s what’s going to get us over the top!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 11, 2013 10:46 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

So Foles’ performance is compromised or delegitimized because the O line and running back is doing their job? (Wow…OK). He still has to execute the plays by making the reads and delivering the ball. I don’t know to many QB’s who is going to perform well under duress because their O line is a siv (have you seen Ben Rothliesberger behind that swiss cheeses line?) Stop looking to detract from his performance because the team is getting better all around, that’s how it’s supposed to work. Every team he has performed well against this year was supposed to have a solid D, Green Bay does have a stout D and he set records against them. Those ducks you speak of..got caught up in the wind, notice how that didn’t happen in Oakland where he threw 7 TD’s, something not many QB’s have ever done…if it was easy even against mediocre to subaverage defenses it would happen more often so no one can be so dismissive of that performance. Do you like Drew Brees? He threw a long pass that was a little short,however, his receiver adjusted and went to get the pass. Foles will start for the rest of the year, if your an Eagles fan just enjoy the ride and root for the team. Posts like yours reeks of an antogonistic disposition you have towards Foles…..Just saying. If Vick performed like Foles has this year; if he could stay healthy, I highly doubt you would have the same conviction, more likely calling for an extension. For the record,when Mike was playing, I rooted for him, now Nick is in there, I’m rooting for him! TEAM FIRST!!!

mhenski
mhenski
November 11, 2013 11:06 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

lmfao. ur stupid koolbreeze. totally clueless

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
November 12, 2013 1:43 am
Reply to  mhenski

Mhenski your a jackass lmao! The Green Bay game was the most dominant performance of our offensive line all year! Foles only had 18 pass attempts! Watch the game stupid!

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
November 11, 2013 10:22 pm

Indeed, listen to what the Redskin players are saying…”yeah Foles is doing ok…but we need to focus on No# 25 to stop the Eagles”

deserteagle
deserteagle
November 11, 2013 11:04 pm

G Cobb you are the only guy I know who gets to ask the questions and answer them at the same time…chose one…you ask if nick foles with the right people around him can succeed ? As opposed to what ? Then you ask can he perform at a higher level ,when those around him are not…you know this is a team game ,was that rhetorical? C’mon… now in game 10 of his career you’re. Wondering if he’s a franchise guy? Yes he’s a franchise guy ,he s the property of the philadelphia eagles and if that’s all you give a shit about …well ..thanksgiving is coming so according to G we should all bow our heads and pray …come on man …enjoy the ride …blah blah blah otherwise …and by my eyes ,if not freaking yelling at the dog as much so stop rocking my green boat..

deserteagle
deserteagle
November 11, 2013 11:27 pm

G name me one quarterback ,franchise or otherwise rises above the dog shit pile and comes out smelling roses? So absurd to dissect this guy ,he is in game freaking ten ….and what my eyes tell me ,is he’s confident ,not cocky ,he takes a hit and shows commitment ,he threw some balls in better weather ,that were ,eye and mouth openers.Nobody is enshrining the guy in less weeks than a hamsters born ,so why not just wonder if he can bring a win on Sunday …the Super Bowl question can be enticing but this team not unlike the Boston Red Sox,can possibly go with improvement ,and commitment to a new coaching foundation from top to bottom , a new business of any ilk takes time to ferment and meander ,it’s natural growth.Of late this team seems to be smiling and enjoying themselves …so am I …so take the negadelphia ..attitudes and questions that need not be pondered ,and put on your number 9 jersey …

jakedog
jakedog
November 13, 2013 10:19 pm

Thanks for posting those stats mhenski

jakedog
jakedog
November 13, 2013 10:24 pm

Just read you post desert eagle , beautiful , just right on man