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Changes The Eagles Need To Make

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Chip Kelly’s statement after signing a deal to be the Birds new head coach, “Big people beat up little people”, was never more true than on Saturday night at Lincoln Financial Field when the Saints were pounding the Eagles defensive line and the New Orleans defensive line was putting the brakes on Shady McCoy and holding him to 77 yards on 21 carries.

I saw that Eagles defensive coordinator Billy Davis game planned to stop the New Orleans passing game, which left his run defense susceptible, but that’s still no reason why our run defense got gutted for 185 on 36 carries.

I think the New Orleans Saints did us a favor by showing Kelly and crew that we need to get bigger and stronger.  I like the job rookie nose tackle Bennie Logan did all season, but he’s an undersized nose tackle at 295 pounds.  I want to see him get bigger and stronger or we will need to move on.  The Saints mammoth center and guards were moving him out of the there, as they pounded the ball down the throats of our defense.

We have two really big defensive linemen and they are Fletcher Cox and Clifton Geathers.  Cox is a guy we can build around, but we must continue to get bigger and stronger upfront.  We want more big guys on both the offensive and defensive lines because we didn’t win the battles upfront in our last two football games.  The Dallas Cowboys won the battle upfront with us and so did the Saints.

We have a very good offensive line, but there’s still no reason why we’re not trying to get bigger and better.

When playoff time arrives each year, the weather turns cold and the team that wins the battle upfront usually wins the football game.  We need to continue to add big, tough and physical players, who will help us win in the playoffs.

The Eagles secondary did a good job against the Saints.  The same can’t be said for the front seven of the Birds defense versus the run, but the strongest part of the New Orleans offense, their passing game, was held in check, but their running game beat the Birds.  New Orleans started out the game winning the battle on the ground and they never stopped until the game was over.

Trent Cole and Brandon Graham registered sacks against the Saints, but the Eagles pass rush was missing in action for most of the night.  Going forward the Birds need a dominant pass rusher, who is going to guarantee them some pressure on the opposing quarterback without blitzing.  Cole had a big second half of the season, but you never can get enough pass rushers.  The Birds need a pass rusher, who registers 12 to 16 sacks a season.  If you can’t get to the passer in this league, you’re at the mercy of the opposing offense.

The Eagles must upgrade the safety position.  I heard NBC’s Cris Collingsworth talk about how Sean Payton felt they could run the ball on the Eagles because their safeties were poor tacklers.  The Birds need better play from the safety position versus the pass and versus the running game.  Payton must have looked a reel of Patrick Chung plays.

Why does Chung always seem to be at the scene of the crime?  Every time an opposing player makes a big play, Chung is the guy getting beat.  I can almost guarantee he won’t be back next year.  All Eagles fans would like to see him wearing another teams jersey next year.

I think there’s a good chance that Eagles kicker Alex Henery won’t be back next year.  Henery doesn’t have a leg strong enough to boot the ball out of the end zone on kickoffs and it really cost the Birds last night.  That kickoff return by Darren Sproles and the subsequent penalty on Cary Williams helped to cost the Birds the game.  It was like a turnover.  The Birds won the turnover battle, but last the game on a change of possession, which put the Saints in Eagles territory to start their winning drive.

Henery also missed a field goal, which could have been the difference in the game.  Yes, Nick Foles took a foolish sack, which made the kick much tougher, but a good kicker makes a 48-yard field goal in the playoffs.  After the game when Kelly was asked about Henery’s future with the team, the coach said he would talk about the status of individual players and the roster at a future date.

The Birds will need to make decisions at the wide receiver position opposite DeSean Jackson.  Both Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper have contracts expiring before the next season.  I supposed they will bring both of them back because Maclin won’t be able to demand a big contract until proves he can perform they way he did in the past and Cooper must prove he can continue to be productive.

I’m confident that as we get better talent, Kelly is going to be able to make our offense even more explosive than it is already.  We need to get faster and bigger at the wide receiver position.

GCOBB

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Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 5, 2014 11:30 am

Good fair and balanced article G. Henery and Chung must go!

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 5, 2014 11:56 am

Bring in Tim Tebow!! lol

Everz11
Everz11
January 5, 2014 12:28 pm

Offseason should consist of the following trade Curry for a mid-round pick (like him doesn’t fit D) . Release Cole, Chung, Allen, Henery, graham, Herremans. In FA add Orakpo as a rush OLB and either TJ Ward or Jarius Byrd at safety. Draft needs in no particular order, a monster DT for the nose, ilb to eventually take over for Ryans, safety to pair with Byrd/Ward or learn from the Byrd/Ward/Wolff tandem, CB, OG for Herremans spot and a kicker who can boot it through the endzone. The young starters need to continue to work and grow and Kelly, who exceeded my expectations has to incorporate a power running wrinkle between the tackles with a fullback. Future is bright IMO

daggolden
daggolden
January 5, 2014 12:35 pm

If Jarius Bryd hits the FA circuit being a Oregon Alumni hopefully helps. Drafting a safety and pass rusher is fine but this team is a few moves away from really contending and having a veteran playmaker is a must. Don’t want to wait for that rookie to develop and go through growing pains. They can develop behind Bryd. We need a step in ready to play playmaker. .

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2014 1:01 pm

Some real good Safeties in Free Agency this year

1) J Byrd – Bills
2). TJ Ward – Browns
3). D Whitner – 49ers
4) my Dark Horse – Mike Mitchell of Panthers

Both Byrd and Ward played at Oregon and are familiar with Kelly and vice versa.. I prefer lWard over the older and often injured Byrd
And believe Whitner is a 1-2 Year Player at his age
This Mike Mitchell has come out of nowhere, is young and will not command the type of $$$ that the Top 3 will get and is only 25 years Old

There a few good OL out there as well
My favorite is Guard Jon Asamoah from the Chiefs who I liked I out College (University of Illinois if anyone remembers)

A big Run-Stuffing DT is needed,
Though Bennie Loagan had a fine Rookie Season, I am not so sure he’s a 50 snaps a game DT.. Eagles need Depth at DT

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 5, 2014 1:09 pm
Reply to  paulman

I’d prefer the Eagles get their O and Dline acquisitions this off season via free agency. I like Byrd..I’d just be extremely surprised if they (Eagles)parted with the $ he is going to command this off season. I still prefer the Eagles draft Either Calvin Pryor III or Deone Bucannon for the SS postion and Johnathan Dowling for their Free safety position.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 5, 2014 7:45 pm
Reply to  paulman

Byrd and Ward are the same age, both are 27 years old, Byrd has him by a month or two. Clearly the better player is Byrd and if im the eagles gm I consider signing him day one. I ll be honest, id give him the money before I give Maclin his money and just draft his replacement at wr this upcoming draft. Maclin is way too injury prone. Get a bigger, more physical corner that’s tough and durable… And this is if they don’t have the funds to sign both guys long term..

NuGreembol
NuGreembol
January 6, 2014 8:16 pm
Reply to  paulman

I would love TJ Ward here!!!

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2014 1:08 pm

When you look back at the Game and think that the Eagles D
Held Brees to 230 Yards Passing, and 2 Int’s and the Seconday held TE Graham and WR Colston in check for the most part, well something had to give and it was the Saints Rushibg attack..
Maybe DC Billy Davis and many Players and the Media being so focused on TE Graham, kinda of let the cat out of the bag so to speak and allowed HC Payton to focus in a game plan based on a more Power Rushing attack instead catching the Eagles a little unprepared and since it was working for the Saints,
They stayed with and won the Game because of it
Lesson here as a Coaching Staff, don’t focus or tip your cap to who or how your going to Defend, keep your comments gauge and give credit to your opponents, but it’s a Team Game and the Saints proved to be more balanced than most expected..

E-money
E-money
January 5, 2014 1:25 pm
Reply to  paulman

Spot-on paulman. Sean Payton outcoached the Eagles (not the first time). With their leading RB out, he knew that we would be even more focused on the passing game. Ingram, Sproles and Robinson had an easy time running the ball last night. The Saints were able to take the weakest part of their offensive game and turn it into a strength.
The game was lost in the trenches, the Saints offensive and defensive fronts outplayed our offensive and defensive fronts. Honestly, the same thing happened last week for most of the game. The difference last week as that the Cowboys got gassed and Shady was able to run. The Eagles need much better line play next season.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 5, 2014 1:31 pm
Reply to  paulman

Right Peyton didn’t realize that the eagles were going to focus on the passing attack until graham opened his mouth… One of the stupidest things ever on this site. Peyton is an exceptional coach I guarantee he never even heard Graham’s remarks.
As for ‘out coached’ I think it was a pretty damn even game… One stop of those 4thquarter drives and it’s a different story. Very good game, anyone who thought the saints weren’t showing up is a fool

pheags88
pheags88
January 5, 2014 2:00 pm

Something a lot of people aren’t considering is how much a 3rd down chain moving small and shifty receiving RB would help this offense tremendously. Its obvious we have an All Pro in Shady but Polk doesnt do enough for me coming out of the back field.

Look at what Woodhead/Sproils/Vereens even McCluster do for their offenses. How easy they make tough situations for their vet QBs. Getting that type of guy in here l could help as much as getting Maclin back.

You think Chip takes De’anthony Thomas if he is there in 2nd-3rd round?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 5, 2014 2:17 pm
Reply to  pheags88

Pheahs88, Not taking him that early..to many other needs. You can find a small shifty back later. Check out Dri Archer from Kent State RB/ 5’8″ 175 4.34.40 time. Shifty and cat quick. He will bearound in the 5th round. Catches out of backfield, returns punts and runs the ball out of the back field. Don’t get caught up on names and draft high because of the name. This kid is one of the fastest players in this upcoming draft!

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2014 11:21 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Excellent Research Eagle!!! He will be talked about a lot at the combine.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 6, 2014 2:02 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Welcome back Cliff!

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
January 5, 2014 3:02 pm

I’ll take tj ward or antrell roll, and give me Jason world as my olb young fast had 10 sacks this year and trade Fletcher cox he just doesn’t fit the 3-4 he would be a beast in the 4-3 defense

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2014 9:20 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Every OLB in the Steeler Scheme gets double digits Sacks..
Name a DL on the a Steelers the last 30 Years who has gotten 10+ Sacks
It’s the Scheme for them… (coach LeBuea uses his DE to crash in a collapse with looping his athletic, faster OLB to rush the passer to get Sacks..

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2014 11:23 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

I like that suggestion Smitty…

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2014 11:26 am
Reply to  gmcliff

gmc, where you been? Feeling ok? Been missed by the boys on here!

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2014 12:01 pm
Reply to  DCar

Been on Vacation with my kids, and my Granddaughter DCar. We went to the Turks, & Caicos Islands for 3 weeks at Sandals. I needed a break Brother.

Good hearing from you. I’m ready to get back into my routine.

We need some pass rush DCar. I know we can take care of our Secondary needs in FA, but we will have to find pass rush, and a Big fast WR in the draft, sense you guys don’t want to go after Josh Gordon. But we will have to be lucky, and have someone drop far enough for us to trade up for him….my target Khalil Mack

If we can’t get him, I trade down for more picks in the 2nd Round, where we could select from the following:

OG – Cyril Richardson 6-5 335 Baylor
OG – Gabe Jackson 6-4 322 Mississippi State
CB – Kyle Fuller 6-2 210 Virginia Tech
OLB – Jeremiah Attaochu 6-4 268 Georgia Tech
WR – Jaelen Strong** 6-4 205 4.45 Arizona State – If he comes out

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2014 12:11 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Would love to get Ha Ha Clinton Dix as well

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 6, 2014 2:08 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I don’t think Jaelen Strong is coming out. I’ve been watching WR Martaivis Bryant from Clemson 6’5″ 205 4.43-4.48. He took a third seat to Sammy Watkins and Tajh Boyd running the ball. He would be a great pick as a complement to Desean Jackson.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 6, 2014 2:23 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Eaglelanded, we know for sure that the Eagles want a big receiver on this team. How? Do you recall a guy by the name of Ifeanyi Momah? A 6’7 WR that looked promising early on in camp, but then fizzled out, started dropping passes..They want a beastly sized WR out there. Rest assured, they may not get one that’s 6’7 but thru this draft I see them getting one 6’4 6’5 at least..

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 8:21 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Happy New Years Cliff,
Sounds like your Holiday Trip was a Great
Ono… Glad to see you back…
What’s your call in tonight’s BSC Championship
I like Florida Stare winning going away
48-26

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2014 11:57 pm
Reply to  paulman

Its Beautiful out there Paul. But at 1200 per night, you can only stay so long.

I definitely recommend that you take the Misses for your next honeymoon, if you can stop sitting on that $12,000 you hide in your sock jar….”sniff” ahhhh woolite….

DCar
DCar
January 7, 2014 12:39 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Very nice gmc. Good to hear you are ok, & spending time with the loved ones. Welcome back. Now is the time of the year when we can shine. Draft time, my man! It’s a shame we are done, but for once, my expectations were exceeded, & I’m over being upset now, with the loss. Yeah, Byrd, Ward, & Orakpo in FA, & draft WR, CB, OLB, NT, K.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2014 9:47 am
Reply to  DCar

I would be fine with Ward and or Byrd. But I am not a fan of Orakpo; He’s too injury prone for playing a position known to be physical.

I pass on Orakpo. There may be some cut cap casualties that may be available that perhaps, we aren’t expecting like : Haloti Ngata, Malcolm Jenkins, Julius Peppers, Mario Williams, .LaDarius Webb, Roddy White, etc…You never really know…

But I do think there are gems in the draft that can be had at WR, OL, OLB, CB, and Safety.

paulman
paulman
January 8, 2014 11:11 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Your right GMcliff.. I think we will see lots of big names released due to Teams who are tight with their Salary Cap Issues
One thing that’s a little different this Off-Season is that the Draft takes place in Late May as opposed to late April as in Years past which means the Free-Agency Period will last really from March to mid-may Where Teams can decide on who to add and who to release from the Rosters..
A well-Prepared Team should be able to identfy some Key Players in the Free-Agency Period for updgrades, and then Supplement your Depth with the Draft with your eye on Future Players/Starters …

I bet we se a lot of Big-Names out there this Free-Agency Period for Salary Cap Reasons on top of Free-Agency

Giants – Justin Tuck, Center D Bass ,CB P Amukarama
Cowboys – Brandon Carr , MIles Austin , Kyle Orton
Redskins – WR/s Hankerson, Moss, RB Helu
Bears – J Peppers , L Briggs
Lions – Nate Burleson

Etc

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 12:43 pm
Reply to  DCar

Word on the Streets is that GMCliff spent the Holidays as a Guest
of Ziggy Ansah’s from the Detroit Lions who was home for the Holiday since he and his Lions Teammates choked down the Stretch of the Regular Season..

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2014 1:57 pm
Reply to  paulman

Yeah Paul. He and I watched the Lions – Eagles Game and after closer review, he never went one on one with Lame Johnson. Johnson went up against James Young all game. Ziggy was matched up against Jason Peters, after recording 4 sacks in 2 games.

Ziggy said his game would have been maximized against an inferior opponent like Lame Johnson.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
January 5, 2014 3:41 pm

Trade cox move Bennie Logan over to de and get a big fat dt to man the middle then trade Cary Williams and release fletcher

DMAN
DMAN
January 6, 2014 3:11 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Wow really? You obviously haven’t been paying close attention to what has been going on buddy. Williams and Fletcher have played fairly well all season…Safety is what we need. And trade Cox? Not sure about that one either

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2014 4:25 pm

Hold on hold on….wasn’t it the Game Managers fault? Lmao in the short time I ive been on here I notice certain people go incognegro when they cant post their bias agenda and when GCobb expands on something opposite…not a peep or a post. LMAO FRAUDS.

andrew p
andrew p
January 5, 2014 4:27 pm

Did anyone see how bad Andy Dalton played today? Everyone said he along with Flacco and Matt Ryan where the future elite QBs, I wouldn’t take any of them over Foles! Luck, Wilson and Foles are the future elite QBs of this league.

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 12:45 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Don’t be surprised if QB M Vick signs a 2 Year Deal with Bengals and competes for their Starting QB Position next Summer Camp.. It actually would be a smart move for Vick and for the Bengals whose Coach Marv Lewis
works well with Players with a checkered past and whose Coaching job depends on some Playoff Success that QB Dalton seems unbable to hurdle

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 6, 2014 2:04 pm
Reply to  paulman

If this happens, with that great defense and good run game, they could go far in the playoffs..

DMAN
DMAN
January 6, 2014 1:54 pm
Reply to  andrew p

I agree

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 8:25 pm
Reply to  DMAN

It’s a perfect fit for him, with those weapons and if Marv Lewis
Wants to keep Coaching the Bengals
It already appears the DC Mike Zimmer will get an opportunity to become a HC as he is set to interview with the Vikings,Titans &
Browns

mimitaro
mimitaro
January 5, 2014 5:56 pm

I don’t want to get into a glass half full/glass half empty debate but…

Was our pass defense in the first half really that good? Or was Brees just wildly unaccurate. If you think about the play where Sproles was wide open being covered by Barwin, that was a TD with an accurate throw. And then the intercept was well overthrown. I think it was more a case of Brees being unaccurate than anything we were doing.

In saying that, we did a good job of taking Graham out of the game. We didn’t have anyone who could cover him, so next best option? Push him on his ass at the LOS.

mimitaro
mimitaro
January 5, 2014 6:01 pm

Oh and in relation to the article, we need some monster DTs and DEs. How many time did the Saints convert the QB sneak last night?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 5, 2014 6:10 pm

Dalton is the red headed Romo

ChuckRob
ChuckRob
January 5, 2014 7:21 pm

As smart as Foles is and as mistake free as he plays, can he please take this offseason and work just a lil on his athleticism and arm strength. I don’t care what anyone says, Nick is not the perfect QB for this system. If Foles is the QB of the future than they better tailor the offense to the system Brady runs, because they share similar athleticism. I have no problem with that… again, I have no problems with Nick, but build a system for his talents. Teams pay zero attention to his run threats.

haveacigar
haveacigar
January 5, 2014 7:29 pm
Reply to  ChuckRob

That is in the works.

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2014 7:53 pm

With the Packers losing,

The Eagles will now have the 22nd Selection in the 1st Round
And with this Pick, Select DT Sha’Reed Hageman from the University of
Minnesota .. 6-6″, 315lbs ..
The KC Chiefs are now on the Clock

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 5, 2014 8:04 pm
Reply to  paulman

OK whose spot is he taking…Cox, Thorton, if the Eagles are going to move into the 3-4, Hageman is a DE…the Eagles need a space eating wide body for the middle. Hageman has a simular build as Cox. Howie says that they want diversity. Hageman is a 4-3 tackle or a 3-4 D End. Will he be the best available player on the board @ 22? I don’t see it. However, if they want a pass rusher from the middle…then maybe. They need a pass rushing OLB too.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 5, 2014 8:43 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

We definitely need a better nose tackle than Logan…Cox and Thorton are fine…we need someone who can hold the point of attack better than Logan.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 5, 2014 8:12 pm

3. Philadelphia quarterback Nick Foles saved one of his worst games for last. Once again, his stat line (23-for-33 passing, 195 yards through the air, 2 TD passes) looks better than he played. He struggled to pull the trigger on a number of throws and held the ball too often. From NFL.com Gregg Rosenthal

jakedog
jakedog
January 5, 2014 8:18 pm

Just another idiot, low life like you with agenda

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
January 5, 2014 8:41 pm
Reply to  jakedog

LOL…jakdog your a jerk! I do have an ‘agenda’…winning a Super Bowl! Unlike many of your jerks…I’m tired of falling short, not making it, excuses, and other lame azz reasons on why we cant win the big one.
Jakdog, Vinniethevic, havablunt…you guys are not true Eagle fans…so winning the Super Bowl is not important as long as you ‘like’ the QB…as long as you can say he’s a “good guy”
Gregg Rosenthal is on the money about Foles: “Once again, his stat line (23-for-33 passing, 195 yards through the air, 2 TD passes) looks better than he played.”
We need a winner in this town!! Bottom Line!

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 6, 2014 9:17 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

Didn’t Foles lead them to a TD that put them ahead with about 4 minutes left?

Did Foles short kick to Sproles and then horse collar tackle him? Did Foles then allow the Saints to get convert 1st downs to run out the rest of the clock?

I would like to see tape on this game to see how the coverage was, buy how come no DJAX until the 2nd half. What did Chip Kelly do to get him involved in the game? Where was the creative playcalling and mismatches in the first half? Foles didn’t have a great game, but he played well enough to put his team in a position to win. They just didn’t win. He wouldn’t have been the sole reason that they would have won if they did, just like he wasn’t the reason that they lost.

paulman
paulman
January 5, 2014 8:20 pm

Hageman can like up all over as a Pass rusher and at 6-6″
315lbs, he has the frame to put on 10-15 in 2 years time easily
Kelly and D-Line Coach like versatility, size,length
And love to rotate 5-6 Players along the DL..
And with a pretty weak DT/DL Draft Ckass, I think the Eagles pull the Trigger and get one early.. There are Good DB’s,WR’s LB’s available in the 2nd , 3rd
& 4th Rds where there are not many DT/DL at all this Year

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
January 5, 2014 8:22 pm

Cox should be traded a 1st rd pick even if it’s for the 2015 draft he doesn’t fit the 3-4 scheme he is a pass rushing dt that needs to be in a 4-3 scheme

frankdialogue
January 5, 2014 8:51 pm

The Eagles simply lost to a team that was a little better and a little more experienced.

I turned on the radio a little while ago, and I have been listening to a media whore on ‘the Fan’ called ‘Phil from Mt. Airy’…Prostitute Phil is now throwing stones at Kelly and Foles who he gushing in support of all season: His questions for the fools who call up these talk shows tonight is: ‘Who lost the game for the Eagles: Chip Kelly or Nick Foles?’.

Now, when you work for corporate media stations like WIP or ESPN, you are given a script before each program, and are ‘handled’ by the producer…The ‘script’ is designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator or mentality, and to agitate and cause controversy…If you deviate from the script you are handed to regularly, you lose job…Simple…’Mt. Airy Phil’ was most likely a Post Office employee for 20+ years, and has retired with a pension…Somewhere along the way, he made a few media contacts, and was a weasel enough to score a job with ‘the FAN’ where he probably makes about $1500 a month and a lot of free lunches and some free drinks to occupy his retirement time…Not a bad little gig, but you can’t say anything of real intelligence, and people who listen to this drivel are badly deceived.

‘Eagle Nation’, in 2014, the only big winners from the NFL playoffs are the billionaire owners and Las Vegas…Simple.

Have a blessed New Year, and take care of you loved ones and yourself the best you can…And focus always on the True Message.

jakedog
jakedog
January 5, 2014 9:05 pm
Reply to  frankdialogue

Are you serious Frank, some one in the media is dumb enough to blame Foles for this loss, after. Leading his team from a deficit of 23-10 in the third quarter, to.take the lead at 24-23 in the fourth, let me guess the color of this scrum

frankdialogue
January 5, 2014 9:22 pm
Reply to  jakedog

jakedog
January 5, 2014 – 9:05 pm

“Are you serious Frank, some one in the media is dumb enough to blame Foles for this loss, after. Leading his team from a deficit of 23-10 in the third quarter, to.take the lead at 24-23 in the fourth, let me guess the color of this scrum.”

“Mt. Airy Phil” the football groupie, is African-American, but it’s not about color with him, because now he is talking about ‘one of the greatest nights of my life, when I partied with Andy Harmon, and listened to him tell dirty jokes’…He’s just a weasel and pussy who managed to finagle a job at ‘the Fan’…He is just a two face who reads from a script.

See, I am a proud European-American, or White, but I just puke when I hear these media whore spewing their crap…It could be ‘Mt. Airy Phil’, Tony Bruno, Angelo Cataldi, ‘Spike’ Eskin or any of their crew…They’re all on the payroll.

Have a happy and healthy New Year, neighbor.

jakedog
jakedog
January 5, 2014 8:58 pm

Rosenthal also said in that piece of garbage that the eagles were manhandled up front but you leave that out because of your single purpose to discredit what will be the best eagles quarterback in history and one of the greatest to ever play, but agenda keeps you and those who want career in journalism from speaking the truth

Butch007
Butch007
January 5, 2014 9:08 pm

A better safety is critical, a young talented corner is too, but I’m going to go the opposite direction on the LB situation. The Eagles have a lot of guys that can rush the passer, but they don’t have enough OLBs that are effective in coverage. If they get a legitimate 3-4 LB that can cover they could use all of the pass rushers they have (Cole, Graham, Barwin, Kendricks) to…actually rush the QB more often. It also will probably be easier to find an athletic LB that can cover well than one that can can rush the passer well and cover well.

pheags88
pheags88
January 5, 2014 9:35 pm
Reply to  Butch007

Butch, Barr is the ideal pick for the Birds but its likely that wont happen. Orapko will likely be available. He was rated as a top 5 outside linebacker in 3-4 this year, still young too. I think Cole is gone. getting better safeties in here will help the our coverage…You cant win a Superbowl with a combo of Chung/Allen. Don’t need All-pros there. Just give me average to above average at the safeties at least

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 5, 2014 10:34 pm
Reply to  pheags88

Anthony Barr is the perfect fit for the eagles…but he will go to high for the Eagles… If we can pull off a Brandon Graham trade up to grab him…It must be done. I think a more likely OLB would be jeremiah Attachou, Kyle Van Noy and maybe Khalil Mack. Only thing about Orakpo is that he can’t stay on the field…oft injured.Safeties…Johnathan Dowlin, Calvin Pryor III, and Deone Bucannon. Birds need to draft two of them!

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 5, 2014 11:00 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I really liked Van Noy since a season ago, the kid makes plays. Khalil mack is a baller as well. A lot of productive OLBs in this draft to look at…

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 12:51 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Both Barr & Khalil Mack will be long gone (Barr a Top 6 Pick and mack a Top #12-#14 Pick) long before the Eagles get to select at #22

Van Noy is an interesting, versatile player with good upside and projects as a Mid 2nd Rounder..It’s Probably too early to grab him at #22 and could be stll on the board at their 2nd Round Selection at #55 but most likely will be gone in the 45th-50th Selection Group

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 6, 2014 12:58 pm
Reply to  paulman

All depends on what he does at the Combine. He has the potential to jump into the 1st round..

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 2:15 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

With more and more Juniors Declaring for the Draft, He may actually fall down the Draft Board to a late 2nd Round Pick would be my guess…
UCF’s QB Bortles Declares for Draft
Oregons RB Anthony Declares for Draft
Probably a couple from Florida State & auburn will Declare this week also..
Typically the more Skills Players that Declare for the Draft
(QB’s,RB’s,WR’s,CB’s) the further LB’s Drop down the Draft Boards since their Position is simply not as in Deman as the Skills Positions are…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 5, 2014 10:57 pm
Reply to  pheags88

pheags no more average safeties. That’s what we currently have minus chung whos a complete bum. If were gonna do this, lets do it the right way. Sign Jarius Byrd who Im sure is eager to leave the woeful bills. Hes one of the very best safeties in the NFL. TJ ward is good as well but hes not on the same level as Byrd.. Draft one other safety, draft 2 corners, draft a pass rushing/cover OLB, get a new kicker (preferably a veteran kicker with a resume) and draft a big 6’4 6’5 4.3 4.5 WR, there are a few in this years draft. Draft a big space eating NT and we’d be a legit contender going into next season, esp if Nick works on his game which I “think” he will…

But like you mentioned pheags, if we can get Barr here, hed add a totally different dimension to our defense. He adds serious physicality, toughness, smarts, instincts. He’s a cant miss prospect, but may go too high in the draft..

Butch007
Butch007
January 6, 2014 7:21 am
Reply to  pheags88

Barr will be long gone by the time the Eagles draft and Orakpo is the Mike Vick of LBs…can’t stay healthy. Honestly, I see the Eagles drafting Justin Gilbert and moving Cary Williams to safety, but I suspect the Eagles draft will be DB centric though so how it shakes out is anybody’s guess. I’d like them to draft either Kyle Van Noy or Trent Murphy in the second round if either is available.

I actually wouldn’t mind seeing them snap up Justin Tuck to rotate at NT/DE. Cole has another couple of years in the tank, even at OLB. The dude has progressed far more than a lot of converted DEs and that bodes well for him.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
January 5, 2014 9:20 pm

Jason worlds

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2014 9:51 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Yes Smitty!! Jason Woirlds

That’s the name to be focused on to replace Cole, allowing the draft picks to develop gradually.

Butch007
Butch007
January 5, 2014 9:27 pm

Nick Foles…the best QB in Eagles history…you serious jake? Wait you can crawl out of his #%#$ now. No one will comment on the fact that you’re blushing…well at least not much anyway.

I like Foles but step back into reality for a minute and recognize that it’s takes 10-13 years like the work McNabb put in year in and year out to get the all-time Eagles QB title…playoff appearance after playoff appearance after playoff win…3,000+ yard season after 3,000+ yard season. A lot can happen in 10 years to a football player and not all of it has to be great, but that’s why they actually play the games.

I remember when quite a few characters on this forum were constantly chirping about how much better Kevin Kolb would be than McNabb.

mimitaro
mimitaro
January 5, 2014 10:23 pm

Kool why are you avoiding my post on the other thread?

“Rodgers looked just like Foles in this game. Slow start (Rodgers no completions in first quarter). Less TDs than Foles. Less yards than Foles… (was it kool who said 195 yards won’t cut it in a playoff? How about 177?). Rodgers leads his team back in 4th qtr just like Foles. Packers defense couldn’t make a stop just like the Eagles defense.

Is Rodgers just a game manager now too? Answer that kool.”

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
January 5, 2014 11:00 pm

Brian orakopa is a free agent

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 5, 2014 11:11 pm
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Brian Orakpo is 27, he’ll be 28 on July 31st of this year. Still playing at an extremely high level. He’s gonna yield a lot of offers on the open market. We don’t want the dream team 2.0.. Lets not throw a lot of money at numerous high priced FA when we can go a bit cheaper and draft and groom the player to their liking. I prefer that option. Unless its a Safety.. Nomore mediocre fly by night guys anymore. The safety position is now turning into the way the LB position was neglected for years and years after Trott.. Cmon guys lets get this right this time.. sheesh

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 5, 2014 11:21 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Orakpo stays hurt to much….he’s a good name, but how does that help us when he can’t get on the field! I’ll pass. Draft your guy….Vic Beasly is a very productive and effective pass rushing OLB from Clemson! No to Orakpo!

Butch007
Butch007
January 6, 2014 6:52 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Brian Orakpo has played something like 20 games in the last 3 years I think. Not good enough.

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 7:07 am
Reply to  Butch007

I don’t like Orapko that much either, even when he’s healthy,
There are questions about his motor and work ethic also
Stay away from a big contract and Draft/Develop a younger,
Healthier Player..
Vic Beasley from Clemson has a lot of upside, but definitely needs to
Get bigger for the NFL and very good possibility he’s on the Draft Board when Eagles Select at #22

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 6, 2014 7:54 am
Reply to  paulman

Vic Beasley will be there at 22 I’m quite sure. He earned a second round grade from the NFL grading commission. Some mocks have Barr and Mack falling some. If Either one of them fall to that 15-17 spot…I have to trade up and get them.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2014 11:59 pm
Reply to  paulman

I don’t care for Orakpo either Paul…..

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 6, 2014 3:32 am

I think Chip will draft Brett Hundley from UCLA…this guy can be the long term answer to get the Eagles over the top.

Chip is still plugged in to the college game and get his guy and I pray it’s Brett Hundley.

mimitaro
mimitaro
January 6, 2014 4:03 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

2 problems with that theory:

1. Chip doesn’t do the drafting.

2. If you knew anything about Chip, he says he doesn’t have a prototype QB. He takes the personnel you give him, and he creates the offense to suit. Thats what makes him great. Most coaches have their own styled offense, and then try plug it with players to make it work. Chip does it the opposite way, and thats why it works so well.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 6, 2014 4:30 am
Reply to  mimitaro

That’s fine and dandy if you want to have 1st round exits, but if you are looking to get that ring the QB position must become more than functional.

Foles is a stop plug not the answer.

mimitaro
mimitaro
January 6, 2014 4:45 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Did you say that about Peyton Manning after his first 16 games when he went 26 TD and 28 INT and finished with a 3-13 record?

Butch007
Butch007
January 6, 2014 7:25 am
Reply to  mimitaro

That’s not exactly accurate as there more than a few mighty ducks in the Eagles system that absolutely would not be here without Chip Kelly pulling the trigger.

mimitaro
mimitaro
January 6, 2014 4:27 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Heres the link for reference…

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/chip-kelly-says-he-doesnt-need-a-mobile-quarterback/

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 6, 2014 4:31 am
Reply to  mimitaro

and yes, chip don’t need a mobile QB but he prefers one if they make smart decisions.

mimitaro
mimitaro
January 6, 2014 4:49 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

How many of those are there in the league? How many of the last 20 super bowls were won by mobile QBs? Maybe 1. How many have been won by pure pocket passers? 19.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 6, 2014 9:23 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

I was big on Hundley before the season too Songs as I am originally from CA and a big UCLA fan. He is staying in school and unless he makes huge leaps he is not the guy either.

In their 3 biggest games of the season: Stanford, Oregon and ASU, he pooped the bed big time. They design that offense for him to get rid of the ball fast and he rarely has to throw downfield or check down to WRs. When that team is behind and he needs to make a play, he tends to stare down WRs. He threw huge INTs against Stanford and Oregon when they were still in the game.

He needs to grow up a lot in the next season making better decisions and show that he can throw the ball in the pocket or else he is not going to be a very good pro in my opinion.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 6, 2014 4:27 am

damn Hundley is waiting until next ear’s draft…..well, just hope we some how get this guy.

HE’S A BEAST.

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 7:23 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

He’s another Jason Campbell type,
Needs another year in College,
Could be a good one, does not run all the much and more of a pocket passer like a Josh Freeman type..

daggolden
daggolden
January 6, 2014 5:12 am

We all have overlooked the most important off-season acquisition needed, backup QB. Even if the Eagles didn’t add 1 player this offseason the team should be 1 year better with development. So that leaves us with the most important FA signing this offseason is backup QB. The odds of Foles or any starting QB staying healthy all year is a MAJOR gamble. What ha[ppens if Foles goes down for a few weeks? Who in the hell has confidence in Matt Barkley. A veteran bacjkup QB is crucial. Ask GB.

daggolden
daggolden
January 6, 2014 5:15 am

Eagle fans Backup QB. Give me some names of vet backup QBs you would trust to come in here. Who trust Barkley? What vet backup QBs are available and would you like to see here running Chips offense?

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2014 11:31 am
Reply to  daggolden

Brian Hoyer, Josh McCown, and Michael Vick just to name a few.

I told everyone that Matt Barkley was not an NFL QB

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 8:41 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

QB Thaddeous Lewis would be a perfect Back-up for the Eagles.
He’s was on the Bills Roster due to Injuries they had with EJ Manuel,Kolb etc.. He’s smart,athletic and has good leadership skills

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 6, 2014 8:51 pm
Reply to  paulman

I concur..ThadeousLewis would be a good back up.

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 9:23 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I also liked Safety George Iolokka from FresnoI State,
Cam Chancellor from Va Tech 2 years ago and Tony Jefferson
From Oklahoma last Draft who ended up going undrafted and made the Cardinals Roster this year..
I liked LB Kiko Alonso last Draft also, didn’t thing he would star right way like he did, but thought he would be a Soecial Teamer and groomed for 2 years down the road and he had a fantastic Rookie Season for the Bills..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 6, 2014 9:42 pm
Reply to  paulman

I too liked tony Jefferson and Kiko Alonso…I didn’t think he was going to ball like he is though!

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 6, 2014 11:58 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Byrd has actually been relatively durable besides this year, he only played 11 games this year, but his previous 3 years he played all 16, and his 1st year in 2009 he played 14. Btw, in 2009 he had 9 ints and only played 14 games as a rookie. This year in 11 games he had 4 ints and 48 tackles..

TJ Ward is more of a hitter, hes physical and plays on a very aggressive defense with the Browns. He had 112 tackles 2ints this year, But he hasn’t been very durable, hes actually been up and down injury wise. This was the first 16 game season hes played in 2 yrs..

My opinion, Byrd is a better all around safety but we couldn’t go wrong with either guy.. They’re both waaay better than what we have..

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 6, 2014 10:00 pm
Reply to  paulman

Cam Chancellor is one of the best safeties in the NFL. I really like his game.. I see the birds not playing around this off season in regards to addressing this safety position. I think right now they just want guys better than what they currently have. Which is almost 90% of the NFL. But when I heard Howie mention Brian Dawkins tonight and how its been a hole there since he’s been gone, that tells me that they already have a plan in place to get their main guy. I think its Jarius Byrd 5’10 203pds runs a 4.6. But it could be T.J. Ward whose also 5’10 211pds runs a 4.5.. Jarius Byrd is a better player but Ward isn’t too far off. I think in this scheme either guy would flourish..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 6, 2014 10:45 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Byrd is good in coverage but not intimidating by no means. Not physical. Chip stated hewants to get bigger and stronger..interpret that as more physical!

paulman
paulman
January 7, 2014 9:26 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

I think Eagles resign Nate Allen and keep him as the FS or “Cover Safety”and the sign TJ Ward as the Enforcer at Strong Safety,
Then they Draft a Free Safety in the early Rounds and still have Eric Wolff to Coach up as Back-Up which is an upgrade over the current Safety Corps without breaking the bankx
And releasing Chung, and letting Coleman leave via free-agency

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 7, 2014 9:32 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

No…the Eagles need to upgrade at safety, Nate Allen is not a play maker. He is a good backup, not a starter…I’ve seen enough of Nate Allen.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 7, 2014 10:25 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Guys they draft a safety as well. Sign Byrd or Ward (Imagine them gutting the entire safeties unit and signing both of these guys? Sheesh, wishful thinking and very expensive.. They sign 1 and draft 1. Lets just get this position righted this time, no more games..

daggolden
daggolden
January 6, 2014 5:20 am

With the 22nd pick in the 2014 draft the Philadelphia Eagles select DeAnthony Thomas WR/RB/KR University of Oregon.

daggolden
daggolden
January 6, 2014 5:24 am
Reply to  daggolden

Theres your slot receiver, punt returner, 3rd down specialist. Just imagine on 3rd down,-Djax, Shady, Maclin, Cooper and DeAnthony Thomas in the slot with a LB or safety covering him.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
January 6, 2014 5:48 am
Reply to  daggolden

DeAnthony Thomas will be limited with a stationary QB behind center.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 6, 2014 8:12 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Then Deanthony Thomas is not worth having….you said the same thing about Shady…how’d that turn out? You make statements based off of your opinion but you say it as if it’s fact. Where’s your proof of this. have you really watched Deanthony Thomas play? If you did you wouldn’t say that. Do you think D. Thomas would agree with your assessment?

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 12:55 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

That’s too high to Select a Returnman, Scat Back who may tough the ball 4-5 Times a game total with the Eagles other Weapons (McCoy/D-Jax) I do believe they need to Draft an All-Purpose Returnman/WR/RB type of Player, but you can get those in the late Rounds

daggolden
daggolden
January 6, 2014 6:20 am

Need to see the “IT” factor. Waiting on Foles defining moment. Next year he needs to show the “IT” factor. Andrew Luck may throw 20 INTS in a year but he has the “IT” factor. Foles will out statistic Kapernick but Kapernick has the “IT” factor. Russel Wilson will never be a league leader in stats but he has the “IT” factor. Rothlisberger has it. Andy Dalton, Carson Palmer, Romo don’t have it. Stats are fine and dandy just want to see Foles next year grow into that role. Then theres Brady, Manning, Brees and Rogers who have it all. lol

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 6, 2014 8:18 am

Chip kelly is talking on WIP now. He was asked if Nick Foles his guy? He said Yes..that Nick did a remarkable job this year…that people forget how young he is and that he will continue to grow with more experience under his belt. In a nut shell…Nick is his guy…(maybe next year Nick will do something to make him change his mind) He made it sound as if he expects Nick to be the QB of the future ! Some of you guys may have to just come to that reality. He also said that the Eagles must get bigger and stronger.

bfdaking215
bfdaking215
January 6, 2014 8:26 am

The “it” factor is leading your team from 13 down and giving them a 1 point lead with under 5 minutes to play. How about Alex henery or the defense get the “it” factor. Nick foles was the best player on the field that night for us. Sean Payton didn’t put the ball in Bree’s hands that last drive…they ran the ball down our throats!! That’s y we lost!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
January 6, 2014 8:26 am

Having a mobil QB does guarantee excitement…extending plays and escapability, but I want to know if a mobil QB guarantees a superbowl anymore so than an immobile QB? Last year Flacco and Kaepernick were the starting QB’s on to pretty evenly matched teams. Who won that game? The eagles have been to a superbowl with a mobil and immobile QB, how many rings do we have? So does it really matter as it relates to the bottom line game?…Nope it doesn’t. Give me a QB that is smart, pocket savvy, accurate and can make all the passes, if he’s mobil, it’s a bonus, if not, be savvy enough to lead the team. Tonight Florida State and Auburn will play…a mobil QB against an accurate, pocket savvy good decision making QB (Jameis Winston) with a strong arm. Lets see how they do and who wins. maybe this year a mobil QB wins the bowl, but people on here act as if being mobil not only gets you there but guarantees a win. History says otherwise!

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
January 6, 2014 8:55 am

I was just throwing orakpos name out there I rather have Jason worilds anyway and one of there biggest needs is a fat DT

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2014 9:19 am

FA
FS Jairus Byrd, SS TJ Ward, OLB Brian Orakpo.
Draft
WR, CB, NT, DE, K
Let all our FA’s go, except Cooper. Thornton, & Jones.
Trade Peters, & Cole, while they still have some sort of value. Cut Chung, Herremans, & Avant. Since we need additional cap room, those moves would save us about $26.702 M. None will give us a cap hit upon release, but Coles $1.5M signing bonus, for the next 3 years.

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2014 9:24 am
Reply to  DCar

Cut Hennery, & possibly Casey also.

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2014 9:27 am

Hundley isn’t coming out, so it’s a moot point!

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 6, 2014 9:30 am
Reply to  DCar

Plus his numbers were very deceiving. He played awful in their 3 biggest games: Stanford, Oregon and ASU.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 6, 2014 9:29 am

Yeah, Casey is stealing money. He is a good blocking TE, but that is too much money for that guy and Ertz/Celek are the starting TEs.

Henery may be cut first.

I see what you are saying about Peters, but I don’t see it happening. Kelly likes Peters too much in my opinion that he thinks that him being on the field 80% of the time is better than another dude 100% of the time.

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2014 9:48 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Kelly can like Peters all he wants, but not at $10M+ a year, with many holes, & need of more cap relief. He’s going to be 32 in a few weeks, & do you really want to take another chance with his size, age, & Achilles tendon? I don’t. Either he renegotiates, or he goes, Pro Bowl or not. Business is business.

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 9:54 am
Reply to  DCar

L Peters at LT for $10 MIllion is a Steal, there’s no way that you move on from him… Look at what Free-Agent LT’s are getting on the Open Market these Days and th eBig Deals they are signing $12-$15 Per Season – Jake Long,Bushrod, etc,etc…
much samarter to get another Season from Peters at least and then look to move Lane Jonson to LT come 2015 and Draft an OT this Year to grrom at RT or keep Barbree/Dennis Kelly for RT ..

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2014 10:02 am
Reply to  paulman

Too much $$$ paul, with too many risks. Yes he had a Pro Bowl year, with no setbacks, but do you want to take another chance on a 32 YO, making $10M? I don’t, especially when there are no salary cap repercussions from cutting him, or trading him.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 6, 2014 10:15 am
Reply to  DCar

But when you trade him, you just create another big hole. I am not saying that I disagree with your thinking, but I don’t think that he is gonna trade his LT.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2014 11:36 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Especially when Lane Johnson is NOT a LT….

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 1:10 pm
Reply to  DCar

That’s too high to Select a Returnman, Scat Back who may tough the ball 4-5 Times a game total with the Eagles other Weapons (McCoy/D-Jax) I do believe they need to Draft an All-Purpose Returnman/WR/RB type of Player, but you can get those in the late Rounds

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 1:15 pm
Reply to  DCar

Peters is in his final Year of his Contract is 2014, so you ride it out and hope he performs at the high level he has during his Eagle’s Career
We all know what the impact, the instability and black hole of running an offense is without having a Reliable and Solid LT like the Eagles had to go thru in 2012 when Peters was Hurt..

No Sense in going thru that again…

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
January 6, 2014 9:35 am

They can sign tj ward and Nate Allen to be the safety’s Jason worilds to play olb if it was me I would trade cox and try to get another 1st rd pick for him move Bennie Logan to cox spot have him add on 10-15lbs of muscle get a better right guard trade peters get a 3rd pick for him and if he becomes a free agent Sam shields, tramon Williams, Antonio cramartie,or revis don’t really want him csn u say Nandi but I know he is better than Cary Williams they need a slot cb so that Boykin can start next year it’s no reason why Cary bums ass Williams should be on the field more than Boykin.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2014 9:39 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Is this Madden or real life?

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 6, 2014 10:10 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

Gloomy, you have great sounding scenarios but a bit unrealistic. They’re not going to trade their talented at times dominant 2nd year Dlineman Fletcher Cox, cmon man… He was a top 15 1st round pick himself almost 2 years ago so they’re not going to try and get another 1st rounder for him.. Id go Jarius Byrd first, his speed fits what this defense needs but Ward may probably be cheaper. Sam Shields is another Boykin, he plays the slot. They’re both too small to play outside. Remember what Kelly said, he wants corners on the outside that are tall, long and physical. Neither guys fit that profile.. he wants corners 6ft and taller on the outside. Richard Sherman 6’3 Brandon Browner 6’4. He wants guys that big and long. Id take a shot at Browner if or when he hits the market. He’s the same age as Cary Williams and who wouldn’t take him over Cary?. I know he’s suspended but regardless he’s a talented talented corner. Tramon Williams hasn’t been playing that great since their SB run a few years back. Id stay away from him, and the rest are just big names at this point, guys full off the big money contracts they have. They’re not hungry anymore.. Its best to go young and hungry over in their prime and full unless they haven’t received that big deal yet… Draft 2 new corners, draft a safety, sign Byrd or Ward..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2014 9:39 am

The Eagles are just fine. All they need to do is continue to draft with the mindset of the best player available. Reaching for need etc is the reason Reid imploded and we had the likes of Matthew Jarrett and Teo Neshiem. Foles is more than adequate at the QB position right now and you have to be an idiot to think you will just pick any mobile QB and do better. The agenda driven morons on here would have been the first ones that disappeared during the middle of the season when Kapernick struggled mightily this year. Take away that loaded defense from the Niners and ask CK to drop back more and they would be a different team that struggles. There is really no such thing as a true mobile QB that makes great decisions. Luck Rodgers are 95% of the time pocket passers who if all fails and have to run will…but first and foremost see the entire field. Until Wilson CK Subway Bob etc win a Superbowl your bias mobile QB viewpoint is laughable because you spout winning it all yet not one of them have done it.

DCar
DCar
January 6, 2014 9:52 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

So you think their safeties are fine? You don’t think we need another big WR, even if we do re-sign Cooper? You think our pass-rushers are fine? You think Cole, is worth keeping at his price as an old, out of position, situational pass-rusher? Changes need to be made every year. Teams have too many holes to fill, with just draft picks! Especially when none of them are guarantees.

btc24
btc24
January 6, 2014 9:40 am

This may be a stupid question but why can’t Michael Kendricks play OLB and rush the passer? Seems like that’s where he excels and he seems to be a liability in pass coverage.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2014 9:49 am
Reply to  btc24

There are not complex problems for the Eagles moving foward. Continue to build through the draft and plug in cost effective free agents until you find those that fill glaring needs. There are only or two key free agents out there under 30 that can help this team. Their main target if anything should Jarius Byrd because he is under 30 and still has better days in front of him. Then you do your due diligence to find some true run stuffing NT for the 3/4. In the 3/4 outside of LB that is the premier position and if you Haloti Ngata type that maybe THE premier position.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 6, 2014 10:14 am
Reply to  btc24

I don’t think that it is stupid at all btc. I have wondered that a lot myself. Moves him to his natural position where he could excel at what he does best.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
January 6, 2014 3:10 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Bugsy with his politically correctness…

BTC…not stupid but just spoken like a person who has no clue about defense!…Kendricks got to the QB on the blitz this season, not from rushing the passer…Kendricks is the best coverage LB on this team by far! Where he made some plays in coverage.
OK move Kendricks to OLB and replace him at the ILB with who? from this current team? Why because he gave up a pass completion or two, or what seemed to be his fault, and not the soft ass zone coverage being called.
As far as the NT, Logan is youngster and by all accounts he did a pretty good job this season. I don’t think you’ll see a move there and I wouldn’t be upset about that. Chung has to go. Ealges gotta get deeper in the secondary and LB…CB Carmichael, I’m not impressed…wouldn’t mind if the Eagles held onto Fletcher and Williams, but if we can get a stud corner in free agency or the draft, gotta do it! …Cole, I respect for his work, but his contract is too much for what he is going to bring to the table. OLB will definitely be a position of need for next season.

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 7, 2014 9:59 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

I pretty much have been saying the same things all year Real. Those things you stated are just so obvious.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 7, 2014 10:23 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

Real, excuse me but what the hell are you talking about? My political correctness means that I listen to other people’s opinions and I don’t think that I am right all of the time or that people are stupid if they disagree with me?

Neither I nor BTC thought that Kendricks didn’t play well at ILB, but he seems to create problems when is let lose to disrupt play in the backfield. Also neither of us said that their was an answer on the team to replace him, but the Eagles are going to have to draft a LB no matter what, so it could be in the middle or on the outside. If you feel that he is better suited to stay in the middle, so be it, but you don’t have to be an ahole about it. If that makes me politically correct than so be it, but I prefer to think of it as respect.

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
January 7, 2014 10:33 am
Reply to  bugsyhawk

Firstly, I stated your political correctness for exactly what you said…you listen to opinions and were very polite about it…Me on the other hand I wasn’t going to be politically correct with BTC, because I just don’t like his ass…You on the other hand I was giving some respect too… If you full read my comment then you see I was speaking directly to BTC and not you! But considering how you just reacted like a little bitch, fuck you too!

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 7, 2014 10:44 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

Got it. Have a good day man.

mhenski
mhenski
January 7, 2014 10:29 am
Reply to  RealTalk777

The Philadelphia Inquirer reports Eagles OLB Trent Cole is “destined to be jettisoned” this offseason.
In other words, Cole is expected to be released. The 31-year-old is due a $5 million salary, and all of his guaranteed money is off the books. We wouldn’t be so quick to write Cole off. He started all 16 games, recorded eight sacks, and was nails as a run defender — grading out as Pro Football Focus’ No. 2 3-4 run-stopping outside linebacker. The Eagles could choose to keep Cole around for another season before his salary soars to $10 million in 2015. Jan 6 – 10:37 PM
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News

paulman
paulman
January 7, 2014 10:38 am
Reply to  mhenski

I believe T Cole, T Herremans, J Casey and J Avant will all be asked for
Re-structures of their Deals and the Team would like them back for 2014 but only under new Contracts….
I believe Pat Chung & Brandon Graham will flat out be released

I think the Eagles will Re-sign both Cooper,Maclin, DE Thornton and Safety Nate Allen and Special Teamer Colt Anderson and allow the other Free-Agent;s Vick, Coleman, Hunt, to walk in Free-Agency

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
January 7, 2014 10:48 am
Reply to  paulman

How does Coooper, DJax and Maclin play out. Both Cooper and Maclin are gonna wanna be the #2 guy on the outside with DJax. I know that Kelly doesn’t put that sort of emphasis on players as everyone seems to play their role for the benefit of the team, but the players may have a hard time accepting a lesser role.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
January 6, 2014 9:47 am

Other fa cb’s are drc,alterrena verner hope I spelled it right Dout it though cb from the titans,aqib talib, Brent grimes, vontae Davis,

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
January 6, 2014 9:53 am

If the browns can trade Trent Richardson for a 1st rd pick why can’t the eagles trade cox for one and I believe you need a trio of safety’s to be good that’s why I say tj ward Nate Allen and earl Wolfe would be a good trio for us

paulman
paulman
January 6, 2014 9:56 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

No way is Fletcher Cox returning a 1st Round Pick from anyone..
He’s a Good all-around Player, but not an Impact player, He’s not a pure Pass-Rusher nor a complete Run-stuffer, he’s a good all-around and versatile Player..

gmcliff
gmcliff
January 6, 2014 11:40 am
Reply to  gloomysmitty

How about this trio Smitty?
Jarius Byrd, Malcolm Jenkins, and Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

I don’t pursue Ward, I cut Nate Allen, and relegate Earl Wolfe to Special Teams where he belongs

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2014 9:58 am

Richardson was a panic move by Irsay for a RB which is a skill position and he at least showed flashes of game changing potential in Cleveland. Fletcher Cox is on the Broderick Bunkley path to bust city. No one is giving you anything above a 4th rounder if that. 3/4 DL are a hot commodity but Cox has done nothing in both the 3/4 and the 4/3. Up to this point if you did not know where they were drafted you would think Cedric Thornton was the first round pick.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
January 6, 2014 10:11 am

I wouldn’t trade cox to a 3-4 team he would get traded to a 4-3 team where as a rookie he had 5 1/2 sacks he is a pass rusher that’s the problem with him in the 3-4 he is just a run stopper and he isn’t great at that it may not be a early 1st rd pick it can be mid to late 1st rd pick to a team like the rams who have two 1st rd picks and could use a pass rush dt and cox is only 22 so yes they could trade him and get a 1st

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
January 6, 2014 10:26 am

Ive watched Fletcher Cox take on double teams play after play after play this year. He’s a 2nd year guy doing this.. You don’t trade a guy like that, I don’t care if you guys think he doesn’t fit in the 3-4.. He has potential to become beastly in this defense. His third year will be the real tell all.. I wanna see him and hopefully Cedric Thorton, if they bring him back, in year two of this defense.. Recall who got the push and pressure on RG3 in their last game? Cox. Cox was in RG3s face on that last second heave to the endzone where Boykin picks him off.. He’s maybe the only one on that Dline with the speed to keep up with a RG3 or at least catch up to him from sideline to sideline. (Maybe Trent Cole too but he’s getting long in the tooth now) One of the main reasons why they drafted him..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2014 10:34 am

Their not getting a first for a DT. They are a dime a dozen. 5 1/2 sacks is not awe inspiring stats and if you were to put him next to Dontari Poe who was drafted one spot ahead of him he would look inadequate. If he was a dominating pass rusher 3/4 or 4/3 would not matter. Jay Ratliff dominated at the NT position even though he was undersized. Then compare to Sheldon Richardson and Star Lotuleie(spelling) it gets worse. His value is to the Eagles and hopefully he can get better. The Rams need no help on the DL if anything they have an abundance of DL talent.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
January 6, 2014 10:37 am

I live in Ashburn and watch the Redskins all the time…everyone gets pressure on the Redskins up the middle. I saw Cox get blown off the ball constantly in the last 2 weeks. He has to get stronger to play the 3/4. Not saying he doesn’t have talent…but was expecting A TON more production. To many games this year you didnt call his name out for anything.