Current Status
Several “health” questions surrounded those responsible for keeping the quarterback upright heading into the 2013 season. Peters, Heremanns and Kelce were all coming off of major injuries. Add in the addition of a rookie and the post Howard Mudd blocking scheme, there was some definite hesitation with how formidable this group would turn out to be.
When all was said and done, the Eagles offensive line was the healthiest and one of the best producing in the entire NFL. It took a little time for Lane Johnson to get his feet wet but we saw by seasons end why the Eagles selected him with the fourth overall selection. Herremans had a slow start to the season and Peters dealt with a few nagging injuries along the way, but both veterans had solid years. Kelce although undersized at the center position, could be seen time and time again making tremendous blocks down the field. Mathis was again stable, reliable and consistently got the job done.
The group as a whole made the transition from a running style quarterback to a pure pocket passer, with a little Matt Barkley sprinkled in. They opened up streets for the running backs to run through, playing a major role in the Eagles leading the league in rushing.
The Eagles offensive line will only improve in 2014. Another year removed from surgery for Peters, Herremans and Kelce. Johnson is no longer a rookie, and there is a tremendous jump in talent comes the sophomore season. The picture is clearer, “for now,” with what type of player will be taking snaps from the center.
Moving Forward:
There are three offensive linemen who are 31 or older, so the Eagles need to take into consideration the future at the offensive line. I don’t feel it is necessary to draft any players in top five rounds as there is some “young” talent already on this roster. The Eagles have Tobin and Kelly, in addition to a physical specimen but definite “project” in Bamiro. They could even decide to resign a veteran already on their team in Barbre or sign a player or two at low cost with high upsides. This is not an area of need, but rather one that could use some additional depth.
The offensive line played reasonably well this year…however, one has to be disappointed in their playoff performance against New Orleans…they did not dominate in the run game in the way we need to against the Saints!
Yeah, that over-drafted Lame Johnson came on the end of the year, giving up 10 sacks, many hurries, & looking like a revolving door. Man that guy is good, & coming into his own…….
Peters is getting old, & cannot be counted on again, especially at his age, & what he’s slated to make. Herremans is now a liability in pass coverage, has been for some time now, & needs to go. The right side of the O-line, was swiss cheese again, for the umpteenth season now, & needs to be upgraded. Johnson should have never been taken, & Lotulelei should, as I stated then, as I’m still stating. Another move that will haunt them, just like not signing pot-roast, like I said they should have. But hey, that Sopoaga was a beast, so no biggie………
Oh yeah, that over-drafted, non-playmaking, out of position, Logan was a monster too…….
LOL!!!….. No DCar, over 20 sacks. Some of those sacks were classified as hurries, and should not have.
Even worse then. Remember when we wanted Star, or a trade down for additional picks & Ansah?
yup, I do…
I wanted Sheldon Richardson as well, or Latululei, along with Ziggy Ansah.
A lot of people were saying that when the Lions came to play the Eagles, that Lame Johnson dominated him. I DVR’d that game, and he wasn’t even on the same side as Johnson. He went one on one with James Young for the majority of that game. Ansah went up against Jason Peters….For the Eagles sake, he better had
Ansah, is the better pro, as well as Richardson…..Star was a major factor to the dominance of that Panthers defense.
Absolutely 100% agree gmc. Lets hope this year, with Gamble, & Kelly a full year in, the strategy is better, & they sign in FA what they need on DF, & draft weapons, playmakers, & depth. That would be the smartest strategy to take, since mostly all of last off-seasons moves were queefs!
Check out the kid Justin Ellis if you have time to watch the Senior Bowl tomorrow. 6’2″ 347. Pretty quick and agile for a man his size.
Nose tackle
GMCliff wants to see him at Safety..
Said the kid has great HIps and can make al the moves in Pass-Coverage
I think they can get a 3&5 rd picks for peters and I would do that in a heart beat and move Johnson to lt and sign Michael oher to play rt or let Dennis Kelly play there
Michael Oher had a terribleseason last year. lane johnson is not ready to handle the duties and responsibility that comes along with the left tackle position. He needs more seasoning.
seasoning perhaps, and way more power, and skill.
Johnson is not a LT, …….he can barely play RT. But you want him to replace a perennial Pro Bowler?
You should really stop thinking he is better than he really is.
If he could play LT, you don’t put Dennis Kelly there coming off injury. You would have to replace him with another high draft pick like Antonio Richardson from Tennessee – who is better at playing LT than Lame Johnson right now.
Dennis Kelly was recovered 100% by mid-Season
After his Summer Knee Scope a Surgery and should have no lingering effects going into 2014.. He was never Activated during the Games for the Eagles liked Alan Barbree’s versatility to play left Or right side at either OT or Guard..
RT Lane Johnson had an overall solid Rookie Season but is not ready for
The demands of LT at this point n his Career And could very well end up remaining at RT
Peters is under Contract for 1 more Season and the Eagles have some Depth along their OL as opposed to many other Teams, so I keep the Unit intact and maybe Draft an OT in the mid-rounds for the Future
There are a lot of good OL in this Draft…
That sounds good to me Paul. There is some talent in the late rounds that will be available at OT
I’m hearing great great things so far about CB Keith McGill. He is really turning heads during this Senior Bowl week. Hes 6’2 215 was a former WR now playing CB. If this is worth anything, he reminds Mike Mayock of the Seattle Seahawks CBs. I want the Eagles to draft this kid anywhere from the 1-3 rounds…
JH, Keith McGill, has been beaten like a drum of the majority of plays he has been in at CB. Yesterdays report on him was that he was battling cramps.
He has good size, but not every tall CB, can play the position, and his speed is average for a CB, at 4.57 at best. He may be moved to Safety.
He is NOT the same athlete that Stanley Jean-Baptiste is. He runs a 4.47, with physical cover skills. Some GM’s have taken him off their early round boards. McGill may not be taken until the 4th – 5th Rounds
Tall does not mean skilled.
All better look at Kyle Fuller, a much better prospect than Keith McGill.
I stopped reading his comments at “I’m hearing”. Dude is a flat out deluded imbecile. Don’t even respond to him gmc, he is another attention craving butt miner, like songs. 2 peas in a deformed pod!
And your still craving to respond to anything I say. Get a life dcar.. shesh
I heard the same thing that McGill was battling cramps yesterday. Why mention a day he was battling cramps and struggled? Doesnt make sense. Talk about all the other days that caused Mike Mayock and others to compare him to both Brandon Browner and Richard Sherman.. Now I did hear that he needs to get a little more physical at the line, other than that I’ve heard nothing but positive comments about McGill..
With all due respect GM, just because your not liking a player too much doesnt mean he cant play or isnt a possible player. You’ve been way off in the past buddy.. no offense.. so lets take a wait and see attitude instead of casting the kid off..
I AM TALKING ABOUT ALL THE OTHER DAYS……
Mike Mayocks feelings about a prospect don’t always impress me. He’s been wrong about so many prospects in the past – I don’t take anything away from him – but he is wishy washy, and inconsistent with his praise and criticism of thses prospects, and when he sees potential, he saves face by saying, I have to go back and look at the film…..LOL!!
McGill has been very inconsistent with his skill level. All you hear is how big he is, He’s been getting torched by most of he WR’s at the Senior Bowl….That has nothing to do with me LIKING them. I like him, I just see that he’s not as talented as some others that I wouldn’t even draft……
I get it, but I think it’s the other way around. You are being critical of me, only because you sing his praises – WHICH honestly you are basing on the opinion of Mike Mayock – He’s been way off, not GMCliff – I haven’t been way off on any player except Luke Kuechly – What do you mean Brother?
Relax JH, I wasn’t really being critical, I was educating you on the reality of McGills Potential, based on not just my opinion, but of those who have worked closely with him….Your opinion is still appreciated.
GM, I mentioned Mayock but hes not the only one speaking highly of McGill. The kid needs work but he has alot of potential. Check out what a nfl scout had to say who wad observing him during Senior bowl practice..
The corner with the highest ceiling looks like Utah’s Keith McGill. At 6-3, 214 pounds, he moves with tremendous fluidly through transitions and impressed during T-step redirect drills. He’s not a natural hands guy and continued to drop interception opportunities. Nevertheless, the length to affect the catch point is still overwhelming for some of the South receivers he faced. When lined up in press man, he flashed the ability to mirror and wall receivers to the sideline, but will require further development with his hand usage through the release.
As you can see Mayock isn’t the only one speaking highly of McGill. And their are others but I wont post their remarks.. So we ll see how well he plays today, though hes been battling cramps..
McGill has been clocked at 4.49 in the 40. I haven’t seen him play but I will definitely be watching him in the senior bowl. Reports from the senior bowl practice was that the Eagles were paying a lot of attention to ILB/OLB Christian Jones and S Deone Bucannon.
Reports last year were they were paying close attention to Lane Johnson, and they ended up drafting him first overall.. Bucannon is a very good prospect, but I wanna see more
I’m a Deone Bucannon fan. I’ve been watching him and Calvin Pryor alot this year. I thought about the Eagles taking them 1 and 2, but that’s not gonna happen. We definitely need 2 safeties though.
Deone Buchannon is a player, and better prospect than Christian Jones, Calvin Pryor, or McGill
JH, They wanted to draft Dion Jordan, but he was taken by Miami, who moved up to take him first.
Lane Johnson was the 4th option, because if Eric Fisher, or Luke Joekel fell to them they would have chose them rather than him as well.
Lane Johnson, wasn’t even rated in the 2nd Round before the Combine. Stop acting like drafting him was on purpose when everybody knew Dion Jordan was their desired pick.
I like Bucannon, Pryor and Jones. I can’t speak on McGill as I’ve not seen him play enough. The three aforementioned I’ve seen play a ton. Jones is very good in space, coverage andagainst the run. Can rush too. Pryor and Bucannon aren’t that different as they both are big hitters and have good ball skills.
Okaay JH, I gave you the opinions of the coaches seeing these players upfront, – Not the evaluations of bad scouts who don’t know what they are talking about, but you want to be stubborn because you are stuck on a guy. Fine.
He WILL be moved to safety. Also, he doesn’t have the highest ceiling of the CB’s at the Senior Bowl; He is just one of the biggest in terms of size.
My question to you is will you admit you were wrong when he doesn’t pan out?
If this kid doesn’t pan out I won’t mind admitting I was off.. But GM you too must admit it when your wrong about him as well. But remember im not here saying hes the next Richard Sherman im just pointing out that his height, length, weight and athleticim is intriguing and I like how disruptive his length can be at the line on receivers.. .
I always do….But I’m rarely wrong, so don’t hold your breath….LOL!!
Your still my boy JH, but Keith McGill will probably make a pretty good Safety in a few years, and you will be a pretty good talent evaluator when you brush up on those skills too.
So Richard Sherman runs a 4.54, is he not the best corner in the NFL? Haha c’mon GM.. theyre not that far off.. The kid is not average or slow by any means..
He is average JH……all your stuck on is his size. He is NOT Richard Sherman, that’s the problem with your analogy.
I actually like Keith McGill as a Safety, more so than a CB…
Hes actually 6’3 215.. not 6’2.. Tallest corner out of all the seniors there for the bowl game..
As long as he is no Curtis Marsh, I’m all ears with your scouting report. CB is a position I’m comfortable addressing in free agency and rounds 4 and later. I’m looking for safety/outside lb and either a WR or a 3-4 d-line guy. Look, Thorton and Logan both played really well, but we need a stud opposite of what Cox brings to the table. Cole and Ryans I envision will be back for 1 more season each. We need a big time LB, it will only provide more room for Barwin and Kendricks to make plays. You saw what the addition of drafting a first round safety has done for some of the elite teams in the NFL (Sea, SF, NO). We have failed with taking safeties in the second round with Jarrett and Allen. We have to get it right this team, we are not going to shell out the $$ for Byrd or Ward, and I see Whitner back in SF or getting more than his worth from a team even more desperate for safety than us.
Good stuff Jeff. But I do see the Eagles getting this safety position right this off season, possibly thru FA. I don’t feel that they have a problem putting money into a specific position like safety, a position they’ve tried correcting through drafting and signing below average free agents . They surely wont go hog wild like in years past just signing everyone imaginable.. A Jarius Byrd and or TJ Ward are strong possibilities… We’d then have the 1st or 2nd best Safeties tandem in the NFL, next to the Seahawks.. The fan in me says sign them both, just get the position righted once and for all…
Signing both is not financially feasible…
The more I see of Louisville’s Safety Calvin Pryor,
The more I like him.. He won’t last past the first around and
Pryor & Clinton-Dix are the top 2 Safeties and will both go 1st around,
And are quite ahead of the other Safeties
though, I do like Deon Buchanan but won’t think he will last to the Eagles
2nd Pick @ #55
I don’t know. I haven’t seen any mocks placing Bucannon higher than 55, although that means nothing. I think how he performs today and at the combine,i.e. 40 time and agility drills will determine where teams place value on him at. The Eagles do like him though.
The Safety Position has become an important piece to a Teams Back Line of Defense and I think a lot Teams have needs at Safety pushing
The Top 5-6 Safeties all slide up a half-round “Draft Value Wise”
I think Bucannon will be there at 55. Call it wishful thinking. The Eagles also showed interest in Ahmad Dixon from Baylor.
Ahmad Dixon is the proto-type Strong Safety and can really lay the wood.. Not real strong in deep passing routes but down in the box, against the run game, short, intervene duarte routes across the middle is a player and forces a lot turnovers (fumbles)
Not so sure about his play making ability on the ball while in flight and would have to be paired with a very good Free-Safety
He physically reminds me of a young Ed Reed/Brian Dawkins when they came out of College ball but without the ball skills just yet..
He’ll get bigger, stronger and is a live wire..
and sometimes let’s his emotions get the best of him,
He has had a lot of personal flag penalties in his Career while in Baylor.. Paired with a Veteran True Free-Safety and he could be a good one as he matures..
what up GCobb and his friends!
I can’t believe GMCliff and DCar are still pecking with Howie Roseman’s stellar draft. Howie Roseman delivered ( New Coach, great draft, good FA)
2014 Howie might draft an OL in first round again — his strategy is to take best player available regardless of position and since he is one of the few top notch NFL talent evaluators, it will be the right move.
e0, the only thing he got right, was the coach! “great draft”??? “good FA’s” REALLY???? Lets see….
FA
Barwin- Good signing. Was onboard from the get go.
Casey- Touted to be all purpose weapon- He was a waste, & invisible.
Sopoaga- Waste.
Chung- Horrific.
Williams- Overpaid, unspectacular, mediocre.
Fletcher- Solid, but injury prone.
Both Phillips- Injury risks, wastes.
Benn- Injury risk, waste.
Momah- Injury risk, major ????. Waste.
Vick 2.0- Stupid waste.
Draft
1st- Johnson- Over-drafted. Inexperienced. Not a need, when better options were in FA.
2nd- Ertz- Luxury pick. Not a need. Did nothing until 2nd half of season.
3rd- Logan- Waaaay over-drafted. Not an NT. Not a playmaker.
4th- Barkley- Wasted pick, on a mediocre QB.
5th- Wolff- Too small. Injury prone. Soft (Cleared to play, & refused).
7th- Kruger- ?????
7th(2)- Poyer- Gone.
7th(3)- King- Gone.
So where is the f^#@ing great, good, & stellar in last off-season??? If it wasn’t for the great coaching by Kelly & Davis (in which I was wrong about), we would have been a 6 win team. You can even argue Kelly’s early stupidity of bringing back Vick, & not playing Foles earlier, making us win even less. Put the pom-poms down, & think with your brain, if you even have one!
I’m glad someone else said it DCar……Finally, an objective view of reality.
Except you forgot to mention Barwin would disappear in many games. He can be upgraded too…..
ouch! that free agent pile doesn’t look too good – maybe you are correct about Wolfe’s size, I wasn’t aware he declined participation after clearance —
Howie shined in 2013 and I feel real confident in him for the 2014 off season.
More of Tom Gambles strategy…Is that what you mean?
Howie Roseman is far from a top notch talent evaluator…….That’s hilarious!!!
OL and one of the NY Giants leaders Dave Diehl announced his Retirement
The other day making the Giants needs at RT, C & LT Critical
This off-Season.. They have almost no Cap-Space and going to have to Coach up and Draft some OL real quick next Season with a new OC who employs a West-Coast Offense which is probably not Eli’s natural rhythm as a QB
A big off-season for the G-Men…
Other Defenders playing well this week and increasing their Draft Status
DT Aaron Donald (Pitt 6-3″ 298lbs). Very quick and explosive
DE/Pass Rusher – Dee Ford (Auburn) a Great 1st Step
Day Run Stuffer – D’Quan Jones (Penn State 6-3″, 325lbs)
Best Pass-Rusher from OLB – Jeremy Attaouchu (GT 6-3″ 250lbs)
Day Run should be DT Run Stuffer (D’Quan Jones)
no thanks…..
Reports from NovaCare Ctr is that The Eagles are not interested on Re-sisdig bing WR Coopemr and are prepared to let him walk..
Looks like a 1st or 2nd Spick will be used for a WR in the Draft
I am not sure I like this move for I simply don’t trust
J Maclin’s health moving forward.. This also means that Hason Avant will be back and to be honest. – a WR Corps of D-Jax,Maclin , Avant & Rookie is just tough enough…
If this is true paulman, it’s more to this then just money. Cooper can play a little no reason to let him walk and keeping Avant.
Its False guys…….. Both Cooper, and Maclin will be re-signed, and they will still draft another WR somewhere in the draft..
Paul is this one of those reports that start in your mind?
yeah..let Riley Cooper walk…we can use another big young…and faster WR…like Texas A&M Mike Evans.! (or we can go for a blockbuster…make some trades and grab Johnny Manziel…this would be the move that sets us up really good!
Manziel will be a terrible pro. A poor man’s Doug Flutie.
im not so sure manziel will be a terrible pro. i think he will be better than kaepernick as he is already a better thrower and his running ability is insane. he has huge hands which is huge for scouts. but that runaround nonsense gotta get fixed…
I saw it this morning on one of the Sport Links..
“Fansided.com” whoever they are,posted an article on Riley Cooper
Written by a Josh Sanchez…
Well cooper has turned into a nice player. Really as a second or third wide out he is perfect. I was surprised he stretched the field so well.
I would Re-Sign Cooper to a 3 year Deal, he’s finally had a breakout Season that we all have been waiting on..
D-Jax with 1,300 Yards – Cooper with 850 Yards
Then Offer Maclin a 1 Year Prove it Deal, and still Draft a Receiver
And the WR Corp’s is Set for a while .. Avant take a pay-cut and their Set for 2014.. If Maclingets a multi-year deal from another Team, then let Maclin walk..
With the Draft Pick WR to assume his duties …
I would think more Teams would be interested in Cooper in a multi-year Deal
Since she’s been healthy and also can play some Special Teams where Naclin doesn’t.. I could see Teams like the Colts, Chiefs, Vikings, Panthers,
Jets, Titans and others needing upgrades at WR that Cooper can bring them
I never heard of that dude being associated with Eagles reporting. The complete opposite is actually being reported by the local Philly reporters stating that the buzz from the Senior Bowl is that Eagles will bring back Cooper and Maclin. I guess we will see. Cooper and Maclin can obviously be upgraded but thats a lot easier said then done.
The WR draft class is very good but it usually takes WRs 2-3 years to make an impact.
And the only reason they wouldn’t bring back Cooper or Maclin is because of money. They must really like Cooper to hold onto him when all that shit was going on and at that point he did absolutely nothing on the field. Now he played very well in the system. I also think smart organizations will do what it takes to keep players around that work well with their young QB.
But at the same time if Cooper’s Agent is asking for big money, Im not doing it. The Eagles have all the bargaining power when it comes to Cooper and Maclin and they need to use it.
I agree 100%,
These Players want to Play in Kelly’s System
That articles this Josh Sanchez wrote was quoting a CSN-Philly
Source for sone of his info..
Jeff Lurie has certain reporters that he leaks info to – Howard Eskin is one of those reporters, Hugh Douglas used to be one but his career imploded – and of course our very own insider JON HART!
**Confirmed Eagles News**
According to my source, any reports that your hearing about Jeremy Maclin and Riley Cooper not signing back with the Eagles is false. “Don’t believe it”
Cooper will resign in philly NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. Terms of the deal will be approximately 3 years $11 million
Guaranteed Cooper resigns. Guy spends 3 1/4 years with nada for production.
Then he gets a QB who looks his way and boom. He knows where his bread is buttered. Add to that he is a downfield blocking machine for Kelly’s screens and short stuff, and you’ll see him resigned.
Dude shows his TRUE colors earlier in the year with using a racial slur
pays no price for his remarks..no suspension by the team or league..no fine by the team or league nothing at all..
a downright slap in the face to every Black Player and Fan of the team
Dude down in Miami gets kicked off his team for “Bullying” and using the word towards another player…At Least he said it was used in the same way other Blacks use it towards eachother…Not Coop tho….there was venom and an elistist overtone to his use.
Hey but our “Future QB” likes throwing the ball to him so it’s all good baby….LMFAO
Lurie needs to save face by not tendering the dude a contract and letting him walk off quietly…no one needs to know exact reason why…just let him walk…Make that statement to your team and fans !! That type of behaviour will no the tolerated.
You going to apply that same standard to McCoy and his treatment of women, or Desean and his Homophobic statements on the radio?
Just wondering.
Here is the answer to that Vinnie you’ve followed sports for a long time. McCoy and Jackson = Pro Bowl. Cooper = replaceable. Does that make it right? Nope but it’s always been that way and it won’t change.
this is america…even convicted felons get a second chance—
cooper said a very mean word– move on
Ha move on…ha like so many have done in the case of a particular convicted felon…a few weeks back numerous folks were still bringing up their distaste for the man because of his past…tell those clowns to move on
Just think there are bigger issues than a name caller in the AA community.
I live outside of wilmington delaware– affectionately nicknamed ‘Killington”– that is something to be concerned about, not a derogatory name by some whiny whiteboy with a ponytail!
most people talk about that felon at this point because of his poor qb play== i think as an overall community he has been admired for his turnaround.
Real talk if they don’t bring him back this will be Jeff Lurie’s call. That report didn’t just come from out of thin air in my opinion they are hoping someone makes him a really good offer so they won’t have to explain themselves.
Teams will view Cooper as a potential locker room distraction… Nobody will give him a good deal to leave town.
IMO the Birds will sign him on-the-cheap.
3 years $11 mill vs 2 years $6 mill isnt that different…either number is ridiculously cheap for a #2 WR…i say 3 years is better because if foles to cooper wasnt a fluke connection we will be set for a while for real cheap. if im cooper i want a 1 or 2 year prove it deal
give Cooper $11 million??? He’s not worth it…give him a 2 year deal at about 6 million…cap friendly…guarantee about 4 million…we should draft the best available receiver or make a bold move for Johnny Football!!
Should be a no-brainer Vinnie..
Not to change gears, here, did anyone watch the Senior Bowl Game
Who looked good, bad, indifferent..
How did the Receivers look, Safeties, CB’s, LB’s
DE Dee Ford from auburn played really well, has been disruptive all week long and nothing changed on gameday, he has a very quick first step, I like this kids game, hes definitely gonna shoot up the draft boards. CB Peirre Desir was rarely targeted, had blanket coverage on receivers and had an INT in the endzone. My guy CB Keith McGill also played well and had an INT during a crucial moment in the game.. CB Nevin Lawson had an INT, LB Kyle Van Noy played good had a sack.. Their were others that played well too but I paid close attention to the defensive side of the ball..
That Dee a Ford is a quick one , I am not sure he will be a full time Player (DE) due to lack of Size..and could be very effective in a 3-4 and strictly as a stand-up pass rusher and should get
Double digit sacks.. He’s not as effective with hands down, and way to light in the pants to play a standard 3-4 in run Defense..
He reminds me of a cChris Clemons, Bruce Irvin of the Seahawks,where they play so-30 snaps a game and do one thing, and that’s rush the Passer
I think the Eagles need to look at him though
He outplayed Alabama’s. All-American OT Okuanjulo big time when they faced each other the guys a Player and will get you 8-10-12 Sacks the next 8 Seasons as a Rotational Player…
Yeah he plays DE and OLB hes not strictly a DE. He really opened eyes this week, just dominated the competition. I know he definitely got the Eagles attention..
T wasn’t impressed…..
I’m with Cliff on this one, his game won’t translate well on the next level. And I wouldn’t draft a rotational pass rusher with a first or second round pick.
That’s your experience Biggie…Looking beyond the obvious.
I can see that the Lineman he went up against were not exactly top notch – although some may develop into Pro Bowlers- They aren’t there now, and he took advantage of them, ……..
but I can also tell he wasn’t very fast coming off the edge when he was blocked correctly, or efficient dropping into coverage…..He similar to a young Trent Cole.
G, where is the article on Foles being named Pro Bowl MVP? Can’t wait for all the haters to come out.
Was he?
That’s too funny.
Nick foles nick foles nick foles nick foooooooooles nick foles
“This is not an area of need, but rather one that could use some additional depth.”
Totally agree with that assessment..just from watching games not looking at any stats…I’d have to say Herremanns was the most disappointing lineman this season. Lane being a rookie played much better than expected. Kelce is solid, my favorite lineman. He has a lot on his plate at the center position on this team, as far as calling out blocking assignments and handling his business after snap…For the Eagles to get him in the 6th round, that was a hell of a pick….
The Eagles will probably draft a few o-linemen in the later rounds. They should go strong after safety Jairus Byrd in free agency…I’m not excited about the linebackers coming out this year..there has been some talk of possibly trading for Dion Jordan. The best move the Eagles can make is to have Johnny Football fall in the draft and the Eagles snatch him up! He is the real deal and he fits the system.
The Eagles should not listen to any outsiders singing Foles praise…if Manziel is available…grab him!
Johnny Manziel is not an NFL QB Breezy…….Strictly a College QB
The GM that drafts him is going to be fired in 2 years; Neither he nor Marcus Mariota, He can’t touch Nick Foles right now….
LOL!!! I think you, Mel Kiper, and a lot of so called talent evaluators, are overvaluing someone who is TOTALLY overhyped.
Exactly!!!
I can’t believe that the hating imbeciles on here, are STILL talking about draftin a QB high in the draft? F^#@ING @$$puppets!
koolbreeze don’t you understand that any QB drafted for the next 5 years will suck in Eagle fans eyes. Bridgewater, he sucks, Manziel he sucks, Carr he sucks, Mariota he sucks. lol Eagle fans will put down any QB not named Foles just because. Foles was a 3 rd rpound pick which came out of nowhere to have a great year. How dare a 1st round pick be able to do the same. Its simply ridiculous with the fans. All QBs will suck for the next 5 years in the draft according to Eagle fans.
I’d rather a first round pick that actually shows up in the first half of an Wild card game at home.
Like the way Kap showed up in both his playoff games this year? (oh wait, is throwing 2 (luckily for him) dropped pick 6s, 50% and barely any points before folding even worse the 4th) “showing up?
This is one area I just don’t get Dag. Any compliment another QB gets on this site is seen by some as a slight towards Foles.
It’s not the NAME Dag….It’s strictly the experience, and SKILL level in comparison to Foles.
um, no. Those QB’s do not suck. They would just be wasted draft picks for the eagles when we already have a QB as good or better than any mentioned. Doesnt mean they wont help out another team.
Kool, all Johnny Football is going to do on the next level is get a GM fired if he gets drafted in the top 10. He will not be healthy enough to accomplish anything on the next level.
I agree with that. He is so small and I believe that a lot of the plays that he made in college will not work out in the pros.
One thing you can admire about the kid is that he never gives up on a play or a game. He was damn fun to watch in that Duke game and in most of his games. No matter how much of a DB he seems to be.
Injuries happen to many QB’s…size aside….My thought process is the same..We’ve been waiting too long for a SB as Eagles fan…drafting a rookie QB from this draft…”this draft” being key words…I’m not impressed with any of the QB’s coming out this year…Eagles need to focus their attention on defense in the early rounds.
Well said Real…I 100% agree….
Same here.. Both GMCliff & I wanted more Defense in last Years Draft also..
You weren’t the only 2.
Yes you are correct DCAR, should have mentioned you as well… my bad..
No biggie paul, no need for recognition. Was just showing my agreement with you 2 cats.
dag, I’ll take every guy you just named over Foles…Chip would be unstoppable with those QB’s. Foles folds under pressure.
What Eagles’ fans recognize is that the majority of drafted Qbs fail. The majority of the crop coming out this year will not be on NFL rosters in 5 years, (perhaps hanging on as backups in Buffalo or whereever)
Eagles have a 16 start QB who was setting NFL records and there’s a crew here who still want him replaced.
They can’t possibly want him replaced because of production – because he was awesome. There has to be another reason. Must be his personality.
They want him replaced with a rookie, even though the majority of rookie QBs fail.
Again, they want a guy who helped turn the moribund franchise around, who led the team to an 8-2 record, who had an insane td/int ratio, who set records, and who when he left the field, had led the Birds to a lead in a playoff game…..
They want him replaced by a draftee who, more likely than not will not be in the NFL in 5 years.
That, my firends, is pure comedy.
There is nothing that makes me feel better than coming to this site and seeing guys like SONGSRME2 and koolbreeze suffer.
It is absolutely killing these two guys to know that Nick Foles will be the starting quarterback for the Eagles….LOL
The funniest part is seeing them scramble to get in here with their unenlightened and childish reasoning to explain Foles success.
The only QB I see having sustained success in the NFL from this Draft Class is
Bortles from UCF, but it’s going to take him 2-3 Years to adjust
His game for the NFL.. He’s big 6-4, 235lbs, built a lot like Andrew Luck with a good arm and good feet and more athletic than meets the eye..But he will need time and get with a good Coaching Staff, but feel that within 3 Years time will shine above the other QB’s of the 2014 Class
I take Foles over any QB this Draft Class,
Remember that Foles is only 25, with what, only 16-18 NFL Games under his belt at the NFL.. With his work ethic, smarts, good coaching, leadership & team first attitude, there is no reason to believe that he won’t continue to get better & better…build a solid Defense & Special Teams around him along with Playmakers McCoy,D-Jax who are still young and the sky is the limit..
Eagles should dominate the Dysfunctionable NFC East for the next few Seasons with an eye of catching the Seahawks,49ers,Packers,Saints
Who are all more complete Teams than the Eagles but have some issues of their own upcoming..
1) Packers Defense has had a ton of injuries the last couple of Seasons and need to rebuild their Front 7
2) 49ers are getting some age also, Gore,V Davis, Boldin, J Smith, D Whitner, C Rogers,P Willis have played a lot of tough games. Over the years
They also have Bowman, Iupati with serious injuries that will impact their readiness for 2014
3) Brees is not getting any younger, Contract squabble with TE Graham,
Sproles cannot stay healthy over a full season anymore
4) Seahawks have a lot of Free-Agents and will not be able to resign everyone
WR Percy Harv, can he ever stay healthy.. WR Rice, Tate have underachieved
Beast mode am Lynch is getting up there and has had a lot of carries the last 3-4 Seasons…
Eagles are primed and 3-4 new Faces on Defenses
(2 via Free Agency & 2 in this Draft ) and they can be right in the mix
For 2014
I said all this several weeks back.
1 – The 49ers are getting old on offense and they don’t have a QB. Their D will keep them competitive for a bit yet.
2 – The Seahawks will have to deal with the negative consequences of the NFL discovering their massive steroid program (shhhhhhhhh) next year
3 – Pack have no D or Oline
4 – Saints are over the hump and Brees old.
I like the spot the birds are moving in to. Good time to be on the upswing. I still don’t think they’ll be SB team next year, but its certainly possible. I’m really looking to the following season. Foles will be entering prime (for QB that’s about 27-31) and they should have their D pieces in place. Should be set for a 3 or 4 year run at that point. Lets hope they can squeeze a SB or 2 outta that.
And thank god we’re not drafting a QB and delaying the process another couple years. And thank God we had our Bart Scott moment this year accelerating the process a year.
A strong defense on this team is even more valuable than in the past…due to this being a fast paced offense…Especially if the offense is struggling early on in games…We need a defense that goes on the field and gets turnovers or 3 and outs so the offense can get the ball right back…if our defense allows long drive after long drive…the offensive philosophy won’t matter. Normally in the past I felt we just needed a bend but not break defense…But on this current team a bend but not break defense is not what we need!
I have been saying that Real for the last 4 years now
I know GMCliff..you’re one of the posters who’s comments I read whenever posted. Due to you possessing a football knowledge that many on here lack… Paulman too…even though he rubs me the wrong way at times he also has the football knowledge that can be appreciated.
I think Foles has done enough to warrant being the starting QB next year. I don’t know how he’ll play, but the first step is helping your QB be successful. GM you know this..That begins with surrounding him with a solid team on both sides of the ball.
I’m pulling for Seattle to win…To prove that a solid defense can win the big one…We all know who the better QB is going into this game. But the better team is to be determined.
GMCliff? that dingbat was wrong the entire year; every week from the coach, draft, wins, general manager, everything – the only he got right was Nick Foles
I’d like to see someone different win the SuperBowl for a change Real.
I will be rooting for Seattle -which has the formula for a Championship Team – an effective Combination of Offense, and Defense.
Real, I want Khalil Mack, but he may be out of reach.
So,I have been Mocking Koni Ely DE/OLB from Missouri 6-5 275lb’s 4.6, as the draft pick I want as our pass rusher,……
Kyle Fuller, and Pierre Desir as my CB Targets……
Deone Buchannon, and maybe one of the top Free Safeties Dix, or Pryor, if they drop into the 2nd Round…..
gm, although Ealy is a freak of nature, he is not a 3-4 OLB, nor a 3-4 DE. He is a natural 4-3 DE. He cannot drop in coverage. Buchannon should be there in the 2nd, but noway Dix & Pryor drops to the 2nd. I’d take them with our 22nd pick.
DCar, you are correct my friend he IS a freak of nature. Watch his highlights, and pay attention to how he moves, he CAN play as a 3-4 OLB – Just like Aldon Smith does for San Fran – I promise you we will regret not drafting him, if we are in a position to get him…I would try to pair him with Jeremiah Attaochu on the other side who may be available in the 3rd.
Howie says he is building through the draft, I hope he’s smart and starts stockpiling draft picks…..Kyle Fuller, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, and Pierre Desir bring size, speed, and aggressive coverage that we don’t have on this team at CB.
I have seen at least 3 mocks – although not all – that have Dix, and Pryor in the top (Dix) to mid (Pryor) of the 2nd Round. Both are Free Safeties, Buchannon is a Strong Safety and will be there for the Eagles in the 2nd, which leads me to BELIEVE that Jarius Byrd may be in their plans as a young FS.
The key to this draft DCar actually is between the 3rd, and 6th Rounds. That’s where you earn success in the draft….and a little luck in the 7th…
every year at least 4 pass rusher go in the top 20 – if Kony Ealy runs a 4.6 he won’t last past the top 15 picks
I like Ealy alot also and think he will be a very productive NFL Player.. and think he be Drafted between the 10th-15th Selection and gone by the time the Eagles Pick at #22
There are not many natural Top Pass-Rushers in this Draft
Clowney,Barr,Mack & Ealy are the Top 4 by most accounts and all 4 will be off the Board by the 15th Selection in my opinion
which is why I think Eagles may go Safety here at #22
Clinton-Dix or Calvin Pryor are the 2 Top Safeties in this Draft and 1 of them should be on the Board at #22 or the of the DT’s (Nix or Hageman)
Cliff, I like Ealy’s pass rushing skills too. However,I agree with DCAR. He doesn’t fit the criteria of an OLB in a 34 that can both rush and cover. Ealy may be quick, but it takes more than that for a man his size who did not cover in college to understand pass coverage responsibilities. I definitely like both Pryor III and Bucannon. I’m a little higher on Stanley Jean-Baptiste than I am on Desir. I think Baptiste’s skills are more developed at this point in man coverage than Desir’s. The drawback on Baptiste is there is some question of his willingness to stick his head in the pile to make the stop during the run game. I know you don’t like them, but reports were that Chip appeared to be intrigued by Dee Ford and the eagles paid a lot of attention to Christian Jones. I liked christian Jones all year for his diversity. I did not know about Dee Ford until the championship game, I don’t know if he can cover, but, he can get after the QB. A superior first step will get the job done on the edge…he has a superior first step. I would think that he needs to demonstrate some coverage ability like Jones has though.
Thanks for responding fellas, good to hear from you.
Guys I respectfully disagree about Ealy’s ability to cover. I have video of him playing in coverage. I think you maybe referring to Sams that plays on the other side who will have some issues adjusting to the OLB responsibility….Ealy has been clocked at 4.64.
I don’t think a lot of GM’s are as high on Calvin Pryor as some on GCobb.com including GMCliff. I have seen 1 mock that had Pryor going in the end of the 1st…..All the others have him going in the middle of the 2nd, and Buchannon in the 3rd.
Paul, I hear all that you say, however their first pick should be Ealy, not Pryor….Clinton-Dix will come off early as the best Safety in this draft. I feel it would be in their interest to sign Byrd as their FS, or draft Stanley Jean- Baptiste and convert him to be a FS, and draft a Strong Safety – Deone Buchannon.
Eagle, Desir, wont come off the board until the mid – late 3rd round. Jean-Baptiste, will come off in the late 2nd – early 3rd, they both can be had if they want them. My top CB is Kyle Fuller(2nd)
I don’t get caught up in who they liked, and who they talked to sometimes that s all smoke screen.
I wasn’t impressed with Dee Ford – he has NOTHING on Kony Ealy, who is the better prospect.
Christian Jones is OK, but there are better prospects that are superior in talent, and tenacity…….
Pass rushing trumps coverage – if Early can get to the QB especially from the QB’s back side who cares if he has no coverage ability – you don’t want your best rusher in coverage anyway — Eagles are in desperation mode for a pass rusher ( Fletcher Cox and Trent Cole couldn’t get to the QB from the edge fast enough )
Pryor is a 2nd Round Pick DCar…..
Could be. I really love the size, & the way Ha Ha, Pryor, Dixon, Loston, Sunseri, Buchannan, Dennard, Desir, Jean-Baptiste, Roberson, Fuller, & McGill all play. All fit our needs, & scheme fit also. We have to come out of this draft, with at least 2 of them. I agree with you, that the Birds will sign either Byrd, or Ward.
My prefence for this off-season, & it will probably change again.
Sign Ward, Linval Joseph, Nick Folk/ Graham Gano.
Trade Graham & lower pick, to Miami for Dion Jordan. Trade Curry for 3rd & 5th/ 6th rounder.
Draft
1st- FS Ha Ha.
2nd- OLB Jeremiah Attaochu.
3rd- CB Desir/ CB Jean-Baptiste.
3rd(2)- Martavis Bryant
4th- NT Daniel McCullers.
5th- SS Vinnie Sunseri.
5th(2)- De Anthony Thomas.
7th- OG Ryan Groy.
That’s right DCar…If we can get a combination of some of those you’ve mentioned in your mock draft – That I love by the way – We would be in good shape.
But Attaochu will be available in the top of the 3rd round, as will Deone Buchannon, so I go Kyle Fuller in the 2nd, and Kony Ealy, in the 1st.
DCar are you saying you want Dion Jordan!!?????
Cliff.. You want to make a “Gentleman’s Bet” that Pryor goes in the 1st Round …
Whoever loses has to treat the other to Lunch to their favorite “Pulled Pork Sandwhich” Restaurant on your next visit down to NC..
I’ll take that deal Paul…..
When’s your next Visit down to NC GMCliff ..
The Springtime is beautiful down here as you probably know ..
gmc, I don’t want Jordan, but he’s a fit, & Graham is a bust in the 3-4 that doesn’t. I think he can be a solid 4-3 DE in Miami. Jordan I don’t really like, but maybe as situation rushing OLB, rotating with Cole for a year, while he learns the league, maybe he can be something more than physical specimen with tools. Ealy cannot drop back & cover, & you don’t waste a 1st rounder on square peg, in round hole, situation pass rusher.
yes he can DCar… let me find the film, and I will post it for you to see….fair enough?
DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE is what we need to address this offseason.
For all of the talk about the QB on here, the one thing we have learned about him is that he (Foles) does not turn the ball over very often. While I believe that it is unlikely that he would continue on the crazy low rate that he did last year, I would also not expect him to become a turn over machine.
Provided that Foles continues to progress with Kelly and his offense, and that the offense is able to get a healthy group of recievers to go along with our Beast in Shadey, having a stronger defense is the logical place to address in the draft and FA.
The Eagles are in a very good place right now. They do not need to try and move up to take a QB that may or may not work out. We have a young QB who had a terrific year this year, who is still on his rookie contract, and we can watch progress or hopefully not, degress. But we do not need to go after a QB this year and we can address the obvious needs on defense. If Foles continues his high level of play, we are a stronger playoff team and will look to challange for the conference title. If Foles comes back to earth and proves to be a “one year wonder”, then we are no worse off and we can look at next years draft for another QB. The Birds are in a very good place right now. This will be an exciting off-season and I look for them to take some giant steps next year.
GO BIRDS!!!
I’m pulling for Seattle to win…To prove that a solid defense can win the big one…
Solid defenses often win the big ones…
Every super bowl win the Steelers have was won on the backs of their defense.
Take away the “Tampa 2” defense and the Eagles win in 2002…
The Ravens defense won two super bowls.
And it goes on….
Please note that Ravens Defense of last years Super Bowl Team was not very good and was ranked middle of the pack and was nowhere as dominating as in Ravens Defenses of the past…
Remember that they almost blew a 24-3 lead from the 3rd quarter on and had to hang on to the last play of the game to secure a win over the 49ers
By no means a dominating Defense last Season from Ravens
***Dallas Cowboys News***
Cowboys Promote DL Coach Rod Marinelli to become the full-fledge Def/Coordinator while giving a new Title of “Asst Head Coach” to Monte Kiffin who essentially has been demoted, but will be kept on the Staff for 2014
They also Hired Scott Linehan (fromer HC of Rams/OC of the Detroit Lions to move into the OC/Play Calling Role for the Cowboys while demoting Bill Callahan back down to OL Position Coach..
On the Surface, most would say who cares.. but underneath, this goes to show the continued ‘dysfunction” of the Cowboys Organization
Callahan and Kiffin are long-time Veteran Coach’s and if they are not going to have the “Authority” then they should have been Fired and Removed..
but then again both Kiffin/Callahan are high Paid and under Contract for 2014 and will collect their big paychecks from Owner Jerry Jones.. .
Marinelli is very close to Kiffin, and If Kiffin were fired, chances are that Marinelli would have quit and left the Cowboys too, leaving them to switch to a 3rd Def/Coordinator in 3 Years which we all know as Eagles Fans is a Train Wreck (McDermott/Castillo/Bowles)…..
So to keep Rod Marinelli, the Cowboys had to keep and pay Monte Kiffin thru 2014, to honor his Contact and to keep Marinelli happy
You’re right Paul, who cares…;)
Cowboys problem is nepotism in the personnel department –
Paulman’s Mock Eagles Draft 2014 (1st thru 5th Rds -Version #7)
I am going on the assumption that the Eagles Re-Sign both WR’s Riley Cooper & Jeremy Maclin and use this Draft to Focus on Defense,Defense..
1st Rd (#22) DT/DE Tim Jernigan (Fla State 6-2″- 300lbs)
2nd Rd (#55) Safety D Bucannon (Wash State 6-1″ – 216lbs)
3rd Rd (#87) OLB Jordan Zumwalt (UCLA 6-4″ – 240lbs)
4th Rd (#118) ILB Christian Jones (Florida St 6-4″- 240lbs)
5th Rd (#150) CB Walt Aikens (Liberty 6-1″ – 2015lbs)
6th/7th Rounds used for OL & WR Depth
Love the Walt Aikens pick Paul…….You can have Jerrnigan, and Zumwalt though..
I am high on Jordan Zumwalt from UCLA…
Anthony Barr gets most of the Press from UCLA’s Defense, but this Zumwalt is very athletic, a great tackler, fundamentally sound, good in pass coverage, a 3 down LB and has the frame to put on 10-15lbs in 2 Years time in a NFL Conditioning Program..
I am not that crazy about Jernigan to be honest.. just threw his name out there.. A much better Selection would be Scott Critchon from Oregon State at 6-3′ – 265lbs — a 3 Year Starter at Oregon State
51 Tackles for losses with 22.5 Sacks
Jernigan only Started 1 Season at Fla State
I stated in an earlier post that Critchon, wasn’t someone that I coveted as a potential Eagles draft choice.
Zumwalt may make a roster, but I ‘m not high on him either…
I love Walt Aikens, he should be there in the 4th….
Zunwalt is one NASTY dude! Eagle fans would love him. I agree with Paulman’s Christian Jones pick, but not Jerrigan (doubt he could make it through Chip’s high tempo training camp). Good player, but better options should be there at 22. Would love Aikens in the 5th, but no way he gets past the 3rd, He was the best cover corner at the Sr bowl. Not sold on Bucannon’s cover ability. Hope we get a PROVEN safety in free agency (sure Chip knows which one he wants). I would like to see us pick up a safety in free agency and another in the draft to go along with Allen and Wolfe.