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Sixers Draft Night Equates To Another Year Of “Waiting”

embiidWho is the best player coming out of college for the 2015 NBA draft?  The Sixers most certainly have an idea.  Following the college game this year could be what Sixers fans turn to for basketball entertainment as they prepare for round two of “tanking.”

Remember when you still felt confident that with the 3rd and 10th pick, 5 picks in the 2nd round, the Sixers would maneuver throughout the draft; add a minimum of one player that would give us a reason to watch for the upcoming season?

I’m not sure we will ever know what the Sixers offered Cleveland to move up to that number one spot.  After Wiggins and Parker, the mostly likely scenario were taking Embiid or drafting Exum and then finding a new home for MCW.  Once Embiid was selected, fans went to a familiar place, the same course of action that was familiar from last season’s selection of Noel, and then quickly turning their attention to the 10th overall pick.

Much like when the NFL announcers made mention of Clinton-Dix one pick before the Eagles were drafting, the NBA guys had to speak of Vonleh, who went one pick ahead of the Sixers to the Charlotte Hornets.  This is where a lot happened in a very short period of time.

The Sixers selected another point guard, not a shooting guard, but another point guard.  Before we could familiarize ourselves with this small school prospect, we were hearing our “face of the franchise” and 2013 rookie of the year Michael Carter-Williams speak about his unknown future with the Sixers.

Carter-Williams and Sixers fans soon found out that Elfrid Payton was heading to the Orlando Magic, for a player who may never suit up for the Sixers.  A minimum of a two year wait for the outcome of whether Dario Sarik will come to Philadelphia.

When the Sixers made the trade with the Magic, they received a 2015 2nd round pick, a future first round pick and a “wait and pray” that Dario Saric will one day be part of our “rebuilt and revamped” roster.   Was Hinkie outsmarted by the general manager of the Denver Nuggets last night?  The Sixers could have drafted Doug McDermott, and been the team to then acquire the 16th and 19th picks this year in addition to a 2015 second round pick.  The Sixers could have selected two players to suit up “this season” to go along with MCW, Noel and Thad Young.  MCW would not have been interviewed, forced to answer questions in an uncomfortable manner with taking McDermott, if the plan was to acquire future assets with their 10th pick.  Sarik might have been their guy all along, any maybe one day he will be “our” guy as well.

I’m not touching on the additions in the second round, not because I don’t believe in the guys we selected, more to do with the fact that at this present moment, I’m left to hope that maybe we see an actual minute of playing time this season from one of our “2” first round picks.

Here is what I make out of our draft last night.

– I hope Noel plays well for the Sixers this season; it will provide relief to fans that sometimes the “wait” can pay off.

-I hope the team sent MCW a care package with an apology card for the interview he had to do last night.

-I hope the team picks the “correct” mascot.   Parents need a reason to spend their loose change for a last second “stub-hub” ticket purchase.

-There needs to be more “dollar dog” nights for the fans, half-cooked beef will ease the pain of losing streaks.

-Big Macs must be rewarded for when the Sixers score 90 points in a game.

We are talking another year of tanking, background noise when you are finishing your list of household chores or paying bills.

19 wins last season.  A 26 game losing streak and a list of players who will never set foot on a NBA court again.

All of that, for no immediate reward; patience is what is being asked, but for how long?

 

Jeff Kolsky

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andrew p
andrew p
June 27, 2014 8:36 am

Bottom line is, they should of gave Cleveland what they wanted n took Wiggins, they offered the #3,10,32, Cleveland wanted two number twos, for an extra number two the Sixers walked away from the player they wanted all along, I think it was stupid! We could of saw MCW, Noel and Wiggins playing together THIS year along with a couple quality free agents watched them grow together. I’m very disappointed right now, hope some moves are made soon to change that.

dtime
dtime
June 27, 2014 9:37 am

Wake me up when the 76er put up a decent product and I’ll consider putting money into buying a ticket. I don’t have a problem with their 1st pick but you need to get something at 10 to help the team this year. It smells of a guy that thinks he’s smarter then everyone in the room and he hasn’t done anything yet.

mhenski
mhenski
June 27, 2014 9:57 am
Reply to  dtime

100000000000000000% agree dtime. ill go to see Upenn hoop this year probably a handful of times but would never entertain the thought of giving this bullshit team 1 cent of my money

greenfan
greenfan
June 27, 2014 9:46 am

Look at it this way. I think the Sixers have given themselves a real shot to break the receord that they share with 26 straight loses and own the record out right. That is one of the positives that I took from last night.

I am ok with the longterm plan. The question still remains about the health of these 2 big men, and if they will be able to actually meet their expected playing potential.

You make a good point Jeff, MCW has been treated pretty badly with all of the rumors and then the drafting of Payton….not usually how you treat the reigning Rookie of the Year. By the same token, Thad has had his name floated in so many trade rumors that he may well be water-logged at this point.

Brett Brown is going to lose all of his hair before this plan starts to show promise. He does not have anything close to enough players to remotely compete in the East. By the end of the season he will be tired of making the same old statements after every loss. Hinke and the owners are clearly in it for the long run. Hopefully Embid will turn into Akeem the Dream like he has been predicted and we will all start seeing what they had in mind….just not anytime soon.

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 10:26 am
Reply to  greenfan

Coach Brown was reportedly seen Jogging early this morning over the
Ben Franklin Bridge, Not sure if he’s returned from the Camden side as of yet.. Details to Follow…

greenfan
greenfan
June 27, 2014 10:36 am
Reply to  paulman

He will be on the Camden side a lot in the future, that is where they are buildig their new practice facility.

With all of the injured drafted by this team maybe they should build it next to Cooper Hospital to save on time and gas.

dtime
dtime
June 27, 2014 11:13 am
Reply to  greenfan

What? You don’t have a problem with the possibility of losing 26 straight games! For what more ping pong balls? This is like Joe Banner winning the salary cap game each year. At least Joe won something. It might be ok to tank one year to collect assets but you don’t get two years. The fans deserve more and so do the assets that are currently on the team (Brown, Carter Williams and Young) they played their hearts out last year. The trading for the 10 pick for a guy that wouldn’t play in 2 years showed a real arrogance that is unacceptable to this fan.

andrew p
andrew p
June 27, 2014 11:19 am

Guys, read this below, it looks like the Sixers threw a smokescreen on everybody and got the guy they wanted all along.

As it turns out, Philadelphia never made a run at Cleveland’s No. 1 overall pick, league sources tell Yahoo.—
Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) June 27, 2014

mhenski
mhenski
June 27, 2014 11:25 am
Reply to  andrew p

all respect to Adrian Wojnarowski but he is just guessing. sixers front office doesnt talk man…

andrew p
andrew p
June 27, 2014 11:36 am
Reply to  mhenski

Who said he heard it from the Sixers? Did u ever think he Could of heard it from Cleveland?

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 11:40 am
Reply to  mhenski

I am sure many Teams talked to the Cavs about that #1 Pick, now whether any discussions ever got serious with any Teams is another story and a moot point..
The Cavs obviously wanted Wiggins or they wouldn’t have chosen him #1st Overall …
I Hope they ditched that Suit Jacket though, even Don Cornelius from the old “Soul Train” Show wouldn’t be caught wearing that ugly thing…

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
June 27, 2014 11:48 am
Reply to  paulman

Think about the timing. The Sixers just drafted Embid. They want him to feel wanted, so what better way to do that then to say “we never wanted Wiggins. Embid was always our guy.”

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
June 27, 2014 11:39 am

He heard it from whoever it serves best. Maybe the Sixers wanted to save face about not getting Wiggins, so they leak this?

daggolden
daggolden
June 27, 2014 11:44 am

NBA fixed? Observers are wondering why the Charlotte Hornets decided to trade Shabaaz Napier to Miami for two 2nd round picks and give the Miami Heat and Lebron James exactly what they wanted. lol. It made no sense for Charlotte to accommodate James and the Heat. Didn’t Charlotte want James to possibly leave Miami and possibly get him out of the conference. Something sounds awfully fishy with this transaction.

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 11:53 am
Reply to  daggolden

The Hornets did get SG PJ Hairston in the Deal which is a good Move for them.. They already havve a small Guard on their Roster in Kemba Walker
who had a nice Season last Year and a smallish back-up Guard in J Pargo… You can’t play both Walker and Napier who are both barely 6′ Feet tall for you wouldn’t be able to match up
Hornets got the better of this Deal.. PJ Hairston doesn’t get suspended and then leave UNC and played, He was probably a Top #15 Pick and Hairston got a huge advantage of the NBA game by playing a 1/2 Season in the D-League which at least gives him some experience in a more NBA style of Game with bigger,faster Players… I expect Hairston to have a solid, nice NBA Career …

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 1:15 pm

Here’s a Couple of Free-Agents that may be able to Fill-out the Roster and
fill some Needs

Guards
PG DJ Augustin – Chicago Bulls
PG Eric Bledsoe – Phoenix Suns
PG Patty Mills – San Antonio Spurs
SG Luke Ridnour – Charlotte Hornets

Forwards
SF Josh McRoberts – Charlotte Hornets
SF Marvin Williams – Utah Jazz
PF DeJaun Blair – Dallas Mavs
SF Andrea Bargnani – NY Knicks
SF Rudy Gay – Sacramento Kings
SF Gordon Hayward – Utah Jazz
PF DJ White – Charlotte Hornets

Center (A Veteran to help work with Noel & Embiid)
Emeka Okafor – Phoenix Suns
Ryan Hollins – LA Clippers

None of these Players are game changers but could be nice complement Players to buy a Season or Two at Reasonable Salaries and show the many Young Players the Ropes of being an NBA Player.
The Biggest Sale to many of these Players is the Opportunity of Playing Time
and for the older Veterans, a last chance to remain in the NBA and be mentors

mhenski
mhenski
June 27, 2014 1:20 pm
Reply to  paulman

PG Eric Bledsoe – Phoenix Suns IS A HUGE GAME CHANGER and isnt a roster filler he is a stud and probably gonna make 15-20 mill this year

gordon hayward resigned i think
gay did resign
bargnani is not a free agent

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 1:43 pm
Reply to  mhenski

There’s a few on this list that are Starter/Larger Type Contracts
as you mentioned (Bledsoe/Hayward/Gay when healthy)

Gay did Opt in so he stays with Kings
Hayward received an Extension but I don’t know if he’s accepted it or not
Bargnani still shows as UDFA on NBA Free-Agent List as of this morning

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 27, 2014 6:29 pm
Reply to  paulman

Rudy Gay opted in take him off your list.

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 28, 2014 1:08 pm
Reply to  paulman

I’ll take Gordon Hayward

mhenski
mhenski
June 27, 2014 1:24 pm

Hinkie said embiid out 5-8 months aka he isnt playing this season

he also said Saric CANNOT come here until at least 2 years and he expects he wont come here until later than that. my thoughts HINKIE IS A FUCKIN IDIOT, DRAFTING A GUY THAT WONT COME HERE UNTIL 2018 OR LATER AT TEN??????????? JACKASSES

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 1:45 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I saw DCar at the Basketball Courts on 33rd & Lehigh at lunch time working on his Game, he still struggles going to his left…

DCar
DCar
June 28, 2014 2:32 am
Reply to  paulman

LMFBO!

taylorrandy
taylorrandy
June 27, 2014 1:48 pm

I was surprised that with all of Hinkies analytics he could not find someone to fit our system at the 10th pick. Getting to draft picks for that spot was ugly. Curious to see what he does in free agency?

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 2:24 pm
Reply to  taylorrandy

SF D McDermott, Ty Warren , R Hood, or SG Gary Harris should have ben the Pick at #..
Then they could have always traded back into the Mid-Late 1st Round for Sarcic, who is untouchable for at least 2 Seasons, since he just signed a
3-Year Deal to remain with his Current Team in the Turkish Basketball League. International Basketball Rules allow a Play under Contract to be able to leave in his Final Year of his Deal, Sarcic signed a 3 Year Deal meaning he can leave his Turkish Team after 2 Years of Service & Play
Same Rules apply in the NBA when a Foreign Player may want to Return Home while under Contract with an NBA Team

daggolden
daggolden
June 27, 2014 3:14 pm
Reply to  paulman

So basically we got one #1 pick this year Nerlen Noels. We have two number one picks next year Embid and another lottery pick plus a extra # 2 pick. In 2016 we have two # 1 picks, our own plus Orlandos (Bostons), Then in 2017 we have two number one picks Sarcics and our own. Look at it that way. Quite honestly we can bitch all we want that’s the only way we can look at it.

mhenski
mhenski
June 27, 2014 3:57 pm
Reply to  daggolden

or u can look at reality and see that we gambled on a 7′ guy with screws holding his ankle together who wont play this year (im fine with that gamble).

then didnt use any assets to trade up and get someone that can play and give us fans something to watch

then drafted a guy who wont be playing in philly/nba for minimum 2 years and likely more (per hinkie himself). aka we burned a lotto pick for a “stash guy” while all other teams do that in the 20s and 2nd round

and no nerlens is not a #1 this year, he is our pick last year and a bad lotto pick at that. the nba is a scoring league and noel has zero offensive game. so we spent a lotto pick last year on a guy with a major injury that cant score and is at best case scenario sam dalembert 2.0. 10 pts game, 8 rebs a game, 2 blocks.

we have had 3 lotto picks in the passed year and none of them will give us any offense this year. thats embarassing and disgusting im sorry

that saric pick is completely unacceptable imo. you couldve had guys with skills that can play now and give fans something…if embiid pans out this draft was a win if he is anything but an allstar it was an epic fail

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
June 29, 2014 12:54 pm
Reply to  taylorrandy

This is where I’m hot with the Sixers! Drafting Saric who won’t be available for 2 years if at all was downright stupid

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 3:33 pm

A few Players that 76ers will be checking out for the 2015 Draft

Guard – Emmanuel Mudiay (SMU 6-5″ – Coached by Larry Brown)
SF – Anthony Johnson (Arizona 6-7″ – Leading Scorer on 18U USA Team)
PF – Montrezl Harrell (Louisville 6-8′ – Returning to Louisville this Year)
SG – Mario Hezonja (Croatia 6-7″ – One of the Top Outside Shooters)
SG – Caris LeVert (Michigan 6-6″ – Looks to replace Stauskus as Scorer)
SG/F – Kelly Oubre (Kansas 6-6″ – Another promising Wing Players)
Center – Willy Cauley-Stein (Kentucky 7-0″ – Shot Blocker/Rebounder)
PF – Cliff Alexander (Kansas 6-8″ – Another tough & talented Kansas player)

mhenski
mhenski
June 27, 2014 3:42 pm
Reply to  paulman

Sixers are tanking for

Mudiay – smu
Okafor – duke
Myles Turner – kentucky
Karl Towns – kentucky
Stanley Johnson – Arizona

next year is very deep on 4s and 5s so the prize will be mudiay for us

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 4:00 pm
Reply to  paulman

For the Record and keeping up with GMCliff Policy..
This Above 2015 NBA Prospect belongs to Paulman since I stated them first and no one can use them as GMCliff did with his Eagles/NFL Prospect List in the Spring …. Good Grief…

CT
CT
June 27, 2014 3:36 pm

Daggolden Amen! Somebody has some damn sense. it doesn’t matter if we got Wiggins Parker and Embiid in this draft. we’re not winning the NBA finals next year or the year after that. I thought as Sixers fans were intelligent enough to know that. Remember what are moto was was together we build. I wouldn’t trade our situation for another young up-and-coming teams for anything. I know it’s hard to hear but patience is what we’re going to have to have right now now we will b we will be contending

andrew p
andrew p
June 27, 2014 3:43 pm

You guys missed the real deal we wiffed on, the trade with the Bulls was the trade Hinkie missed, the pick after us took McDermott for them for the Bulls two first round pick instead of a first in 2017 n a second next year, how do you justify that Dagg?

daggolden
daggolden
June 27, 2014 4:27 pm
Reply to  andrew p

Fans just don’t get it. The #10 pick means nothing. Dougie McBuckets, Mcsixpiece or whomever it would of been.It doesn’t matter. The whole Sixers future depends on Embid. Every other draft pick can be found on every other team in the NBA. Embid on the other hand cant be if he is what they think he is. A 7 foot rim rattling, shot blocking, dream shaking Olejawan clone. He is the only thing that matters. We get caught up with these other picks who realistically are dime a dozen players.

daggolden
daggolden
June 27, 2014 4:28 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Now if Embid doesn’t pan out then the Sixers are in trouble.

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 4:53 pm
Reply to  daggolden

If any of the Big-3 Noels, MCW or Embiid don’t Pan out, then the 76ers are back where they Started..

mhenski
mhenski
June 27, 2014 4:37 pm

my crystal ball

so as of now mcw and noel are developing.

noel will be shit but learn and improve but always be shit offensively

if embiid comes back in 2015-2016 he will start growing.

2015 draft we will get a lotto pick and pending he is a guy that can play, is not injured or a stash guy he will start growing in 2015-2016

in 2016-2017 we will get saric (hopefully) and he will grow

pending health in 2017-2018 mcw embiid noel saric and 2015 lotto pick will finally get to play together and gel together

2018-2019 they will finally make it to .500

2019-2020 these guys will be firing on all cylinders and start dominating the nba.

somewhere between now and 2020 when we get rolling the sixers will be forced to move as philadelphia really starts hating hinkie and ownership so with 100 million already invested in camden they will move there and in 2021 the CAMDEN CRACKHEADS WILL BE YOUR NBA CHAMPIONS

SHOW YA LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

daggolden
daggolden
June 27, 2014 4:43 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Mhenski so give me the way we were winning a championship before 2020 anyway? What other scenarios were the Sixers going to be better than any of the mega teams that will be formed? What scenario were the Sixers going to be better than Chicago, Indy and the 8 teams in the West? You act like there was some kind of other moves that would of made us a NBA powerhouse? What moves are they? We are 32 years behind friggin Washington for crying out loud. Fans act like we were winning a championship in the next few years by some magical potion. It really doesn’t matter.

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 4:57 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Wiggins and Exum will sign as Free-Agents with 76ers in 2018 after their Rookie Deals are up per Jon Hart proving that the 76ers Owned this 2014 Draft…

daggolden
daggolden
June 27, 2014 5:51 pm

Just listened to the Hinkie interview with Mike Missinelli on 97.5. He said Saric will be here in 2 years. He is a stud. A 6 10 great rebounding, great passing, high IQ big man who is a Lamar Odom type minus the Kardashians. They are over 30 million under the cap and have developmental players in leagues all over the globe. They will bring in a shooting guard via trading assets or through FA. But make no mistake when they are ready to add the FA firepower down the road, when its time, that’s what they will do. He sees Noel being in the same mold as Noah with him and Embid protecting the rim. The other Serbian player is almost as big as MCW and will play overseas for atleast this year but is a very very good prospect. They are really high on KJ McDaniels. the ACC player of the year with his 17 points 7 rebounds and 3 blocks per game.

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 6:55 pm
Reply to  daggolden

McDaniels is the Wild-Card of this Draft for 76ers
He will get ample opportunity to not only make the Roster, but actually play and contribute unlike the buns in recent Years
With Royce White, Arnett Moultrie & the Draft Pick from Florida a few years back whose name escapes me, that were all immature and had questionable work ethics
McDaniels is a high energy, good kid who I watched a lot of at Clemson
Living here in ACC Country where he seemed to step up his game versus the better Teams (Duke,UNC & Virginia) who a game planned to slow him down..
He’s a very good weak side Rebounder also and runs the floor very well
I like him to make the Roster and be a contributor
His Rookie Season ..
The other PF Grant from Dyracuse I am not so sure about and may need a
Season or 2 in the D League before he’s ready though it helps having
MCW who played with Grant or at least knows him well to help keep him
Focused..

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 6:57 pm

Saric’s game per most reports compares to
Keilenko who has had some good Seasons with Utah Jazz
when he was younger and healthy..

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 28, 2014 1:04 pm
Reply to  paulman

actually is translates into Detlef Schremph

paulman
paulman
June 28, 2014 2:03 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I lived in Indy from ’87-’93 and was a big
Detlef Shremph fan who was a very good all-around Player
And on of the first Foreign Players to really make it in the NBA
I’m not so sure that Saric is as physical yet as
Shremph was..

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 28, 2014 7:46 pm
Reply to  paulman

you wouldn’t………but in two years he may begin to start getting to that level.

paulman
paulman
June 27, 2014 7:07 pm

That should be “Krilenko”

skayne
skayne
June 27, 2014 9:36 pm

People should realize that Hinkie is trying to build an organization in the mold of the Spurs and Rockets where he worked under Morey.

Embiid was always the guy they wanted people. They never were interested in Wiggins, and the Cavs would have picked Embiid had he not suffered that injury. They panicked and overreacted by not picking him. More’s the better for the Sixers. For a guy who’s supposed to be this super freak athlete, Wiggins was only slightly above average for his position in getting rebounds, steals, blocks and got virtually no assists. Embiid was off the charts in those categories.

If you’re wondering why that matters that’s because for analytics guys what they found out is that the statistics for college players that translate to the NBA level is rebounding, steals, high ast/to ratio, high free throw att/fg att., just to name a few things that they value. High shooting efficiency has a very low correlation to NBA success, so if you have sparkling shooting numbers with none of the things mentioned above the analytics guys won’t draft you. That’s why McDermott was never coming here.

Guys like Hinkie believe their statistical model give them a much higher hit rate when drafting players than other NBA teams. But they also recognize that the model is not foolproof and after the top 2 or 3 guys in most drafts you might as well flip a coin. They want to stockpile picks because more ammunition in the gun gives you more chances to hit the target. Ammunition being draft picks and the target being productive NBA players. Understand that they liked Payton and Saric, Payton a little better. Those two guys hit the metrics that they want, but when you add the bounty of a first and second round pick, it was a trade they couldn’t pass up. They want multiple chances to get productive NBA players. Just read Bill Simmons piece on Grantland about how the draft is a crapshoot other than the most elite prospects. Some years the the best players in the draft come from the bottom of the first round and even in the second. Hinkie wants to have as many opportunities as he can to get good players.

As for wanting guys who shoot, or more offense, when these guys get in the NBA they have all the time in the world to refine their offensive game. Some have a higher ceiling than others. It’s more important to have the factors I mentioned above. Kawhi Leonard couldn’t shoot when he came out of college. Now if you leave him open at the 3 pt. line he makes the shot. He also gets offense from his superior defense and rebounding. Anthony Davis was the MVP of the Wildcats while not shooting that much. He was off the charts in the metrics that analytics guys value. He gets in the NBA he averages 20 points a game with efficient shooting numbers. The offense will come when you can devote hours a day to refining your game.

PhillySupremacy
PhillySupremacy
June 27, 2014 10:21 pm

Wow no one here knows what they’re talking about…. Start following Liberty Ballers

paulman
paulman
June 28, 2014 2:24 pm

Reports have Pendibg Free-Agents
Lance Stephenson & Leoul Deng coming
To Philly next week to meet/talk with 76ers
Stay Tuned for more moves by Hinkle…

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 28, 2014 7:47 pm
Reply to  paulman

no to both of them………

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 28, 2014 2:47 pm

Dario Saric has good potential that translates well to the NBA. Many believe if Saric didn’t sign that contract that he would have been a top 5 pick

Very easily the surprisingly early pick of Aaron Gordon more than likely would’ve been Saric if he was going to play in the NBA this season so this really fell the Sixers way

Very possible, the Sixers may have worked out a deal with Saric and his agent ahead of time stating to them that they’d draft him if he decided to stay overseas for a few years. Almost like a guarantee

Remember, Hinkie said they’ve been tracking this kid since he was a teenager so years and years of observing and analyzing, talking to him along with his agent

So in addition to Embiid, I think we have another special special player, that has versatility and athleticism thru the roof

Guys hes a 6’10 Small Forward that can pass, shoot, defend, blocks shots etc..

Just another piece to the puzzle

paulman
paulman
June 28, 2014 4:00 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Paulman had Saric on the 76ers Radar back
In Feb/March, most of you guys stated I didn’t know what I was talking about..
Hinkle is going to build a Roster of fundamentally sound, high Basketball IQ Players..
I also believe that his recent signing with his Turkish Club
Had him fall a few Spots for sure…
Selecting Payton for the Magic and then Dealing him
For Saric an extra Picks was genius…

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 28, 2014 7:53 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paul, they drafted him because the guy they wanted Noah Vonleh was drafted by the hornets………what are you bragging about..lol…..

They only drafted Peyton for Orlando, to get their previous #1 back for next year, a future #1 2016, or 2017, and a #2 next year….

You may have mentioned them, but apparently they weren’t really on their radar. Heinke didn’t even speak with Saric’s team until after they drafted him……Relax bruh,,,you still don’t know basketball,….but football will be here in a month Buddy!!!!!!!!!!

paulman
paulman
June 28, 2014 8:32 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Wrong again as usual GMCliff
Everyone had Vonleh going anywhere
From 4th-7th so the fact he went 9th just before the 76ers pick
Means nothing for Hinkle did not expect him available at #10..
Also I mentioned Saric dozens of times all Spring as a Player
They would target and I was correct…
No bragging Cliff, just calling it like it is and like how it went down..

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 28, 2014 9:13 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I somewhat agree with you Cliff not only because I had them interested in Vonleh but also because they wanted to take another look at both Voleh and Randle the week of the draft.

But drafting either guy would make very little sense since they have Joel & Noel the twin towers and both the PF and C position on lock for the next 10-15 years

Saric may have been their target all along.

It also means losing some more instead of winning right away by drafting a guy that wont be here for another year or two which is Hinkies plan next season

Hinkie said they’ve been scouting Saric for years, since he was a teenager

I like that were finally stashing foreign players, foreigners who come here more skilled and more intelligent than most NBA players today

Very exciting times that don’t appear will end for the foreseeable future

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 28, 2014 9:50 pm

This rebuild should of happened after the 83′ run.

Us drafting Allen Iverson was almost like putting a huge durable bandaid over a open flesh wound

Then they surrounded Allen with strictly rebounders, defenders and guys with very little offensive ability except being able to look Allen’s direction and pass him the ball. It was a very cheap cheap run with nothing to show for it but 1 year of memories, what a fluke

That’s what we have to cling to which just isn’t enough

So Hinkie is building something that has sustainability, like what the Spurs have

We fully expect the Spurs to make another run at the title next year while the Heat need their stars to opt out in order to have enough cap room to fit everyone in there

Just different organizations and different ways of doing it.

I like the heat players but id prefer sustainability over short term short lived success, so the Spurs model is more appealing to me and appears to be for Sam Hinkie

Keep building Hinkie, no matter how long it takes (I say 2 years)

phillyreaper
phillyreaper
June 29, 2014 4:05 am

Beware of The Twinjured Towers!

pdiddy
pdiddy
June 29, 2014 9:44 am

Just let these young fellas ball, if they stink naturally so be it. No more intentional tank jobs tho.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 29, 2014 12:24 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

They’re going to let them play Diddy and I think they will be pretty competitive once Embiid gets out there, but believe me they will be in the lottery again unless somehow someway they get Bron and or Melo here (doubtful at this point) to come here. Though I will say the GM Hinkie never said it was out of the realm of possibility, they have the cap room to sign two max guys (Still doubt it)

The guy the Sixers will target is Guard Emmanuel Mudiay whos an absolute beast in next years draft

Hes a scorer, yes he runs the point but he can score 6’5 210

pdiddy
pdiddy
June 29, 2014 2:12 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

I want Stephenson, not saying he’s great but he is way better than anything we have at the two guard now. He is only twenty three no reason not to take a run at him. Plus he has some attitude, something we lack.

pdiddy
pdiddy
June 29, 2014 2:16 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

I am not saying give him max money, but make him an offer. Him an McW would make a nice backcourt. For those who says he stinks, we’ll name someone better on this roster than him.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 29, 2014 3:12 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

They won’t make a long term commitment to anyone that may make them better right now unless it involves Lebron James.

The Sixers want to lose until they’ve made this roster in Hinkie’s likeness, the likeness of the San Antonio Spurs, a team and organization with staying power, longevity, sustainability

I like Stephenson’s edge, hes a bit of a nut, but Its very unlikely that Hinkie or Brett Brown would want someone like him on this team or to invest in him long term

paulman
paulman
June 29, 2014 3:33 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

I agree, I am not so sure that Stephenson is the type of Player that Hinkle or Coach Brown want around a lot of young Players at this point, though he’s a heck of a Pkayer
I could see a couple Veterans who may fit in nicely
With the Young players the 76ers have.
Maybe a 3 Year Deal offer to Leoul Deng which brings him
Close to the end of his Career and can set the table until
Saric arrives… A hard working, no nonsense type of Player who may actually enjoy being a 2nd Option with the 76ers as opposed to his role while with the Bulls..
Maybe a Veteran Center (Okafor or Haywood) simply to provide an experienced mentor to both Noel & Embiid as they begin their
NBA Careers
Then a Veteran Back-Up Guard to provide sone stability to the 2nd Unit

paulman
paulman
June 29, 2014 10:19 am

A 76ers Line-Up of

PG – MCW/Wroten
SG – Lance Stevenson/J-Richardson
SF – Thadd Young/Leoul Deng/McRoberts
PF – Noel/McDaniels/Grant
C – Embiid/Hawes/Sims

Could be competitive come 2nd half of Season

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 29, 2014 10:43 am
Reply to  paulman

Aren’t McDaniel/Grant small forwards? Just asking.

paulman
paulman
June 29, 2014 11:03 am
Reply to  Biglion821

McDaniels is for sure a SF at 6-6″ and not a PF
Free-Agent can Play a little PF at 6-9″/6-10″

Grant at 6-8 210lbs has a frame to put on
10-15lbs in 2 years time easily and can be a role Player at PF
Down the road..

Lots of versatility and mix-match lineups with
This Group…

Stevenson can pkay SG or SF
J-Rich can play SG or SF
Noel can play PF or Center
Deng can play the #3 or even a little #4
Hawes can Pkay #4 or #5

May not be a bad way to go for a Season or 2 until more Draft Picja next Year and when Saric is ready to come over

paulman
paulman
June 29, 2014 11:29 am

****NBA Rumors

LeBron James, C Bosh & U Haslem all sign with the Lakers
Lakers then Trade Kobe to the Knicks who also sign Center Gasol
Heat resign Wade and Free-Agent Carmelo Anthony

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 29, 2014 2:24 pm

Here’s a question..

Did most Sixers fans think we’d be contenders this year, or feel like we were 1 or 2 pieces away?

Let’s be realistic here, the Sixers are two maybe three years away from being serious contenders

Having Saric come here this season would do what? Leave him over there and let him grow, no reason trying to bring him over now and we will benefit from this bc he will come over ready to start at SF

Speaking of SF, I think Nerlins can play 3 positions, SF PF & C

He has the speed and the frame to do it

But again make no mistake about it, they’re gonna be a lotto team again, top 3

And 1 other smart move by Hinkie, the trade with the Magic gave them back their 2015 1st rounder. Smart smart move

paulman
paulman
June 29, 2014 2:47 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

That Selecting Guard Payton at #10 only to Trade with Orlando was the move of the Draft.. Hinkle knew the Magic were very high on Payton and wanted him bad, hence the deal for Saric.. Of course this probably means very little to impatient Fans, but those 2 Picks and Saric in 2 years time will be the real turning point of the 76ers…
76ers can add a few cheap short-Term Free-Agents to fill out the Roster
But this Franchise moving forward will be built
Around Embiid,Noel,Saric & MCW with Hinkle’s eyes on upgrading the Guard/Wing Positions (SG/SF) the next 2 Drafts …

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 29, 2014 3:49 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

I expected to be watching 2 lottery picks playing alongside Nerlens and MCW and maybe a legit free agent and trying to be relevant, obviously I was expecting too much. So I’ll check back in 2016 after a 12 win season another lottery pick and Embiid playing alongside Nerlens and MCW if Hinkie decides to see if they can play together.

paulman
paulman
June 29, 2014 4:16 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Tapes of the 76ers 2014 & 2015 Season’s are on the way Biggy…..
(They are only a few minutes each a Season)
Enjoy

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 30, 2014 7:22 am
Reply to  paulman

Thanks paulman better than bathroom reading I guess.

tua14768
tua14768
June 29, 2014 5:14 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Not A True Fan…Pure Frontrunner.

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 30, 2014 7:19 am
Reply to  tua14768

Please with that true fan crap, every damn fan of every damn sport is a front runner. By all means go out and purchase Sixers season tickets this year and help bank roll this crap.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 30, 2014 7:55 am
Reply to  Biglion821

BigL, I think tua was calling Paul a frontrunner and not a true fan if I’m not mistaken and he’s accurate if he was

Paul openly said he doesn’t care about basketball or the Sixers but once the Sixers get a gang of draft picks and flexibility he jumps on the bandwagon

Hes the definition of a front runner fraudfan

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
June 30, 2014 8:33 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Someone who is in here every day all day talking about every little aspect of every Philly sports team even though he lives in NC. Yeah, you are right, he does sound like a front runner or a fraud.

No one cared about the Sixers last year. Look at their attendance. It has been bad management and basketball in this city for about a decade now. That is hard to swallow.

Are you at every game there superfan?

Give it a rest.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 30, 2014 12:22 pm
Reply to  bugsyhawk

I’m at the majority of the games Bug brain, and im here in Sixers articles after every game spilling knowledge un-hypocritically because I’m there or I’m watching all freakin year win or lose

Youre not a true fan either, hence you protecting fraudfan from criticism

You give it a rest

He openly said he didn’t like Basketball or the Sixers, now hes giddy over them having draft picks? Now hes on every Sixers article?

That’s not a front runner? Give me a break

“Noone cared about the Sixers last year”

Hashtag “What fake front running fans say”. Fraudfan said the same thing you did

IF YOU’RE A TRUE FAN YOUR A FAN EVEN WHEN THEY SUCK NOT ONLY WHEN THEY GET DRAFT PICKS AND A NEW COACH AND GM!!!

Come on you sound idiotic, that’s common true fan sense that you obviously don’t have

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 30, 2014 10:51 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Jon, for the record I don’t think paulman is a front runner, just full of nonsense but not a front runner which I think is a ridiculous phrase. Give you a example, because of my busy schedule with my family and running a business I cannot devote the time to watch or follow every move of my hometown teams. The Eagles play once a week so they are an easy follow. So I guess I’m a front runner as well because if the games aren’t important or the team blows I’m not going to devote too much time to them.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 30, 2014 12:28 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

BigL, please don’t defend this guy. He openly said he didn’t like NBA basketball or the Sixers and even said “JH is the only guy on this site that even cares about the Sixers”

That’s why I call him a front running fraudman fraudfan

Now he has you defending him haha he wouldn’t defend you bro

Real recognizes real BigL, you should see that hes a fake sixers fan hopping on the bandwagon

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
June 30, 2014 1:30 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Look at the attendance last year Jon, did it go down or up? They were second to last in attendance and in % fill to capacity and the 2 games that I went to last year had no where near the 13K that they said that they had in the place.

The bottom line is that this has been bad basektball for years here in Philly. Do you deny that? Why pay for a bad product?

You may be the guy that wants to go cheer on D League players for 34 bucks, but count me out. If that makes me a front runner than fine so be it.

And PS, the only person sounding idiotic is you. Bugbrain? Really. That the best you got?

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
June 30, 2014 1:32 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

And you generally don’t write Hashtag dude, just use this #.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
June 30, 2014 1:40 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

And one last thing, how the hell can you call someone who is interested in the 76ers right now a frontrunner? They won 19 games last year, drafted a guy who won’t play for the majority of next year and another guy who may not be here for another 2 years. They are due to be in the lottery next year, so in what way are they in the front? It is believed that they are heading in the right direction, but they certainly haven’t won anything nor are due to win anything for another couple of years at the very least.

Biglion821
Biglion821
June 30, 2014 3:18 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

That just makes him a hypocrite Jon, I couldn’t care less if he ever defended me I call him out constantly for the stuff he posts. I hate that front running phrase, that only applies when someone decides to become a fan after said team wins multiple championships. Or when you have a bunch of Philly born folks who say oh yea the Steelers are my team.

paulman
paulman
June 30, 2014 6:33 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

#1) I’ve probably been a 76er Fan longer than JH has been alive so you have no right or insight to challenge my Fandom..
I began watching the 76ers in the early 70’s, yes when they sucked and won a NBA Worse 9 Games in 1972 , then they Drafted Doug Collins, Signed Free-Agent George McGinnis which was big news back then, then Dr J which was truly off the Charts, Traded for World B Free, & Caldwell Jones,Steve Mix, Bobby Jones and the Team and City were Jumping, then they had some Great Drafts with Mo Cheeks & Andrew Toney, and added missing Piece Center Moses Malone and they played Great Ball thru most of the 80’s and had some Classic Basketball Rivalries with the Celtics, Lakers & Knicks and then Ownership Changes that went from Dixon, to Harold Katz and things began to change as the “Purse String” were getting tighter and tighter. and poor Coach and former 76er Great Billy Cunningham got simply burned out, and then there was a lack of stability and focus by the Front Office and GM, Charles Barkley had his great moments but again he was allowed to walk when his Contract came up and never built a strong Roster around him.. then Pat Croce took over and brought back some excitement back to the Franchise, they Drafted Allan Iverson, traded for Mutombo, and were really a blue-collar Team that was tough to watch some nights, but really battled for 48 minutes every game out without a talented Roster other than Iverson (Eric Now, Aaron McKie, Tyrone Hill, George Lynch)
Anyways after about 2005, I lost hope and interest in the 76ers with Billy King at the helm, with his Terrible Contracts, Terrible Draft’s, Lack of focus & Leadership and no real plan of how to rebuild this Franchise and became pretty much the same garbage year after year and even I got a little excited again when Doug Collins first returned to bring some stability but was short-lived as we all saw that his plan wasn’t much better as they scrapped a young promising Team to go in and try to Win now with the Bynum Deal which again set the Franchise Back..
When GM Hinkle was Hired, I was very excited for I read up on him and was familiar with his Time and what he accomplished in a relatively short time in Houston and liked his background, his knowledge of Stats and Metrics to help Build a Team and I also like Coach Brown from the San Antonio Spurs who has the Patience, Teaching and Coaching Ability to raise the level of young Players.
At the same token, I am very similar to many other Basketball Fans who not only lost Hope for the 76ers, but even the NBA Game in General where Fundamentals, Passing, Playing Solid Defense, Rebounding, Foul Shooting have almost become a lost art and emphasized, for many of Today’s Players for too many are worried about highlight clips on ESPN and great Dunks, Throwdowns, 3 PT Shots from way downtown.. but the fundamentals, and Coaching has become further and further diminished where the Sport is basically run by the Top 5-6 Superstars, where Coach’s come and go every Season, where young PLayers don’t have a chance to really develop, Coach’s don’t have the luxury of playing Young players at the Teams expense if his job is on the line and Yes, I don’t enjoy this kind of Basketball, this Isolate the Court, stand around, let the clock go down to 6-7 Second and then and go one on one, the Pick & Roll .. I hate this style of Basketball but It’s slowly evolving back to a more Team Oriented Sport and even the BIg Men are starting to make a little comeback.. I belive the Sport has changed a bit also like Baseball has where many of the GM’s and Front Office People are smarter, are more patient and hire better Coach’s who are Teachers of the Game and not simply retreads who bounce around Franchise to Franchise and these wave of Younger GM’s who know how to hire the right people and let them do their jobs and know what they want and how to evaluate who fits their schemes and team chemistry,etc,etc is now coming back into all Professional Sports and I for one am happy to see it.. It’s still a Players Game and the Athletes Rule the Sport, but there has to been a plan, a scheme , system about making the Team player better All Around Basketball then the individual sum of its Parts (or just having Talented Players)
I believe that this is the school of thought that Hinkle believes and will build this Time around.

2) So in a Nutshell, Yes, I am following the 76ers a lot close now that I really like what Hinkle & Co are doing which is to rebuild from ground up and if it means 2-3 Shitty Years, then so what, for the 76ers have been crappy for most of the last 15 Years anyways
3) and my Last Point, who really gives a “Flying Belgian Waffle” whether I am a die-hard fan,a season ticket holder or a casual fan, or a newbie fan… What does that matter to anyone anyways and the fact that I do live out of State and the Team has sucked for so long, it’s not like I even get too many chances to see them on TV for the 76ers get very few “National Broadcasts” each Season …
4) JH Continues to show his immaturity which is pretty much expected… You and other may think I know nothing about Basketball and about the College and NBA Sport, but you are wrong, I do follow it, just not as passionately as I do the Eagles (Football in General) and the Phils (and Baseball) but the 76ers and Flyers, who I also keep an interest in for they are all my Home-Town Teams for crying out loud and have followed all Philly Teams since the early 70’s when I was about 8-10 Years old making me 50 Years old now…

So there you have it JH.. You are wrong about me as you are about many other things… but your young and you’ll learn and mature perhaps..just like many NBA Prospects, Time will Tell…

tua14768
tua14768
June 30, 2014 11:25 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Every fan is not a front runner. You should not watch the season. You should “check back in” when they begin to do well.

tua14768
tua14768
June 30, 2014 11:49 pm
Reply to  tua14768

That was directed at Big

Biglion821
Biglion821
July 6, 2014 12:15 am
Reply to  tua14768

Oh I’ll check whenever I want to it’s the beauty of being a front runner. Sheesh dude grow up.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 29, 2014 4:21 pm

Im hearing that Nerlins has developed a 12-15ft jumper that B Brown is anxiouslylooking forward to seeing and looking forward to us seeing it in action come summer league in a few weeks

We know Embiid has a jumper and will continue to hone it, but I had no clue that he can shoot the 3 as well

In a workout back at KU he went 321 for 402 from 3. That’s 80% of his 3s made

Granted, it was a workout with no one covering him but its still impressive

If Embiid can develop this into his repertoire consistently along with Nerlins 12-15 footer, that spells serious matchup problems for teams and wide open lanes to the basket for our scorers

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 29, 2014 5:42 pm

David Aldridge said that Dario Saric has the chance to be the best player in Europe in the next year or two

He said that Dario may come here in a year

I honestly think it comes down to where this team is at the time that will determine whether he comes over in a year or not

But picture a 6’10 PG.. Toni Kukoc type player with waaay more athleticism, court vision, physicality, toughness, quickness, speed etc That’s Dario Saric

Don’t think we’ve seen a guy like Saric in this league yet..

I think Dario would be a productive player in the league right now but were not ready to contend yet so keep him over there

daggolden
daggolden
June 29, 2014 5:59 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Yeah Im listening to Kwame on 97.5 also. Acaller said Kukoc was average at best so stop the Kukoc comparisons. He later said who would you rather have Sarcic who is compared to (Kukoc) or McDermot who could be(Chris Mullens)He makes a point. lol

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 29, 2014 6:18 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Hes better then Kukoc Dagg, Kukoc doesn’t even compare to the athleticism that this kid has

Saric and Embiid may go down as all time greats. Im not exaggerating. They have a lot a lot of superstar potential, especially Embiid

But Saric will be waay better then Kukoc

I ll say it again, I don’t think we’ve seen a player like Saric in the NBA ever.

A 6’10 PG SF? That’s something we’ve yet to witness. Closest was Magic whose 6’9

paulman
paulman
June 29, 2014 6:22 pm
Reply to  daggolden

As GMCliff mentioned the other day
Think more of a “Detlef Schremph” than Tony Kukok
When making a comparison,
Shremph was a very good Player for the Pacers in late 80’s-early-mid 90’s
And was more physical than Kukok ever was
Saric has some toughness and natural strength
In his game which was not Kukok’s game.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 29, 2014 6:28 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Long term Saric will be better than McDermott.

Plus Mcdermott is 24 and the Sixers have a youth movement happening here and seem to be staying away from 24 25 year olds unless theyre very productive players like Thad or maybe a Lebron or Melo etc

Saric is 19 20, and in 4 year he’ll be McDermott’s age and McDermott will be 28 nearing 30

Smart move by Hinkie

paulman
paulman
June 29, 2014 6:29 pm

For the Record, Paulman had Saric on the 76ers Radar way back in the Winter time… He’s the Type of Player with Skills, Fundamentals and Basketball Smarts that Hinkle wants…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 29, 2014 6:49 pm

Hinkie doesn’t make many mistakes player wise

Analytics play a huge role in all of his player decisions, of course other attributes too but analytics big time

Hinkie is quickly becoming a top GM in the league that is well respected by his peers

#InHinkieWeTrust

paulman
paulman
June 29, 2014 7:30 pm

76ers had to Pick Embiud at #3
GM Hinkle played his Cards correctly and did not sell the Farm to move up to the 1st Pick for Wiggins as others suggested or wanted him to do..
He stood pat, held his ground, avoided temptation and got the Top Prospect in the entire Draft in Joel Embiid who only fell to #3 due to foot injury
And likliehood that he will miss 2014
Hinkle also pulled off the best trade in the Draft
By swapping with the Magic for Guard Payton for Saric and 2 Draft a Picks in return, again, Saric only fell to #12 due to his recent signing in the Turkish League and the face that Aaron Gordon and Guard LaVibe went earlier
Than projected helping to push Saric down
I believe Hinkle would have liked him at #10 but saw an opportunity to get some “Assets” back by selecting Payton for the Magic and then making the Deal
A brilliant move by GM Hinkle…

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 30, 2014 8:03 am

I absolutely ‘UNDERSTAND’ the rebuild model…every year teams take lottery picks as a quick fix but usually that quick fix is to mediocrity. This is a very tedious and methodical rebuild which as i say I understand but I think it leads to why the NBA is such an atrocious league, hard to watch and tons of uncompetitive games. Its brutal.
As for JH’s comments about Saric and Embiid being all-time greats…um, can they put on NBA uniform before you make those comments. Further…isn’t the injury that Embiid has the same one that Ming had???????

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 30, 2014 12:36 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

“Saric and Embiid may go down as all time greats”

I said “may”

And yes they have that kind of potential, they have superstar potential. I’m not exaggerating

I know a young guy with strong superstar potential when I see it

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 30, 2014 12:44 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Hinkie was with the Rockets while Yao had that bone issue. This isn’t nearly the same thing or anywhere near it

Hinkie wouldn’t have taken that chance since he knows some stuff about foot injuries

Also they had the best doctors around the US look at the injury and they all said he will heal and it wont impede his playing career

#InHinkieWeTrust

haveacigar
haveacigar
June 30, 2014 1:22 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

He was with the rockets when Yao went down but even he admits it’s a calculated risk ! Like I said he is doing the right thing long term but it speaks to the shit that is the NBA product….

BigE
BigE
June 30, 2014 12:25 pm

There is a good chance that these two guys could never play for the sixers. More of I know better than you do. Shades of Eagles drafts.

concrete_marley
concrete_marley
June 30, 2014 9:16 pm

Anybody that says Noel will never have an offensive game is just being ridiculous. He is super athletic and fluid in his movements so there is no reason he can’t become a serious offensive threat if he puts the work in. We are not talking about Greg Ostertag or any of the other slow footed doofuses we’ve seen come into the league. This dude will get 10 points per game just off putbacks and hustle. If he develops even one go to move, look out!
There have been many young big men that came into the league with no real offensive game to speak of. In fact just about every center that I can think of drafted in the past 25 years has had the same rap, so stop it. Let’s see him play one season before saying he stinks.

paulman
paulman
June 30, 2014 10:09 pm

I agree CM,
There is no reason he can’t be a double-double
Guy every night and develop a 16-17 Pts per Game to go along with
10-12 Rebounds Average…
Pair him up with Embiid by 2015-2016 Season
And you have 2 Young Players Averaging Double-Doubles with very high Ceilings.. Plus Noel should Block 3-4 Shots and
Who knows how many shots he will alter, change
And be rushed by opponents who try to go to the rim

On a side note, Veteran Guard Jameer Nelson
Was bought out of his Contract by the Magic and will
Become a Free-Agent tonight at midnight
He’s a 10 Year Veteran and may be able to play
10-12 minutes a game and spell MCW and more importantly be a nice mentor for him as far as running an Offense
76ers should talk to Nelson..

gmcliff
gmcliff
June 30, 2014 11:21 pm

He can’t play Concrete. You’re rationalizing. He has NO Offensive Game. Every Pro ball Player, is an athlete, but not all are even relatively elite. Noel is in that category.

His ceiling is Caldwell Jones,

tua14768
tua14768
June 30, 2014 11:31 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

If Embiid comes back healthy next year and if Embiid is as good as some say, Noel will only have to worry about defense and rebounding. If Embiid is good offensively Noel may not have to worry about being an offensive weapon. I think Noel is a few years away from avg. 15 pts/game.

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
June 30, 2014 11:37 pm
Reply to  tua14768

I’ll take 10/gm. Which he can EASILY get with his speed, hustle,

gmcliff
gmcliff
July 1, 2014 10:50 am
Reply to  tua14768

You are entitled to your opinion………

coldbrewski
coldbrewski
June 30, 2014 11:35 pm

Trust me most of those who are saying he can never develo offensively are either bias or basketball ignorant. And you are right, you can count the bigs on one hand damn near, who have developed into anything special offensively. Nerlens other strengths far outweigh any offensive defeciency. You can work hard and develop a 10-15 ft jumper; occasional jump hook. But as stated, he can get 10-12 off dunks and put backs alone.

gmcliff
gmcliff
July 1, 2014 10:57 am
Reply to  coldbrewski

Brewski, he isn’t playing against Valdosta State, Oklahoma A&M, and DeVry anymore, this is the Big time, and if anyone has paid attention to his game, his ceiling is Caldwell Jones.

Will he score sure he will, but not like you think he will, for him to average double figures, the game would have to run through him at some point in Brett Browns offense, and he is not a real offensive option, so I don’t see that happening…..His First Summer League Games will bring some people back to Earth….

John Nash, supported my reasoning, when he himself said, that he had serious DOUBTS, that Noel would be able to play on this level……but some think otherwise…we’ll see….

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
July 1, 2014 1:05 am

**Sixers Free Agency News**

Free Agency began at 12:01 AM July 1st 2014 and I’m hearing that the Sixers have already reached out to SG Avery Bradley formerly of the Boston Celtics, a very good lock down defender and with the ability to knock down big shots

He’s 23 years old with a lot of potential. I think signing him would be a good idea. Let him grow along with this young core of players. He would definitely add toughness and veteran leadership to this team which is much needed

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
July 1, 2014 1:17 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

He is a restricted FA so Boston can match any deal that hes offered

paulman
paulman
July 1, 2014 8:25 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Bradley goes about 6-3, 180lbs and averaged
About 14-15 Pts a game last Season for the Celtics
And played a lot of minutes due to Rondo’s injury
A good solid Player from the University of Texas
Can run the point, shoot a little and is still young,
Word is that Celtics would love to keep him as well
Since Rondo’s long-term days with Celts is a ?

Also, Cavs signed, extended Guard K Irving
To a 5 Year $90 Million Deal keeping him in Cleveland
For a while..,

gmcliff
gmcliff
July 1, 2014 10:58 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Didn’t he also have a knee injury JH???

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
July 1, 2014 1:31 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

No it was a dislocated shoulder that required surgery Cliff

The Celtics would have won the title that year if he didn’t get injured

He’s actually been pretty durable and I don’t think hes nearly tapped into his potential yet

paulman
paulman
July 1, 2014 2:36 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

Correction on Height – Bradley goes 6-2 & 180lbs

He’s averaged 58 Games Played over the last 3 Seasons and has Average 27 Minutes per game though he had career high #’s last Season since Rondo missed most of last Season with the Celts

From last Season
Shot 44% from the Field and almost 40% from 3 Pt Line though he’s not a big 3 Pt Shooter only averaging 3 attempts per game
and Shot 80% from the Free-Throw Line but again only averaged 2 Foul Shot Attempts a Game so he’s not a Driver of the Basketball nor a Deep Threat or a realy Playmake or Distributor of the ball with the following Stats ..
Bradley averaged 1.5 Assist’sPer Game and 1.6 Turnovers per game to go along with 4 Rebounds per Game while averaging almost 15 Pts per game last Season as these were all Career Highs

After further checking, I am not sure he really fits the mold of what the 76ers are looking for at Guard since he doesn’t Penetrate well, or Dish off and Pass Well, nor does he Shoot the Deep Ball real well, but what do I know, I’m a Football guy….

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
July 2, 2014 10:08 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

Avery Bradley decided to resign with the Celtics

paulman
paulman
July 2, 2014 10:34 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

As was expected, for both He and the Celtics have stated publicly that he was a priority to re-sign with them and that he wanted to stay with the Team… I would not be surprised to see the Celtics try to move Guard Rondo who does not seem to be a good fit for Coach Brad Steven’s System and apparently has some Locker Room, Leadership, Attitude issues that they are not real happy about

mhenski
mhenski
July 2, 2014 10:37 am
Reply to  paulman

sixers arent signing anyone that can help them win fellas. its tank part 2. #Togetherwetank #showyaluv!!!!!!!

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
July 2, 2014 11:00 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

4 years 32 million Avery got I’m hearing. I’m elated Hinkie passed on that

paulman
paulman
July 2, 2014 11:35 am
Reply to  Jon Hart

He’s not worth that for the 76ers, Good News & Deal for him though
Wish him well …

tua14768
tua14768
July 1, 2014 10:26 am

I think the Sixers need to really target Gordon Hayward. He is a wing that would add a nice shooting touch to a team the desperately needs it.

I like Bradley as well.

gmcliff
gmcliff
July 1, 2014 10:59 am
Reply to  tua14768

I agree Tua…..

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
July 1, 2014 12:26 pm

I support them signing any guy who can actually shoot and Hayward can be a less expensive option.

paulman
paulman
July 1, 2014 12:44 pm

Lebron James wants a “Maximum Contract” – could this be the end of the Big 3 of the Miami Heat… I believe Lebron is moving on as well as Haslem
with Wade & Bosh to remain in Miami who may pursue Carmelo Anthony to join them,,, It should get interesting

paulman
paulman
July 1, 2014 12:47 pm

With the Cavs locking up Guard Irving for 5 more Seasons could a deal be struck where LJ with Haslem joins Kyrie Irving, Dion Waiters, Tristan Thompson & Anthony Bennett and #1 Pick WIggins to form a pretty competitive Team in the Wide-Open Eastern Conference…

paulman
paulman
July 2, 2014 11:50 am

**Recap of around the NBA** (Per ESPN)

Guard Lance Stephenson has rejected Pacers Offer and will be hitting the Market and talking to other Teams

Center Gortat has resigned with Washington Wizards on a 5 Year – $60 Million Deal … (Just think what a real bargain the 76ers have in Noel and Embiid on Rookie Deals)

San Antonio Spurs Guard and Free Agent Patty Mills announced he will have Shoulder Surgery which will put him out until January of 2015 thus hurting his chances on the Free-Market

Guard Kyle Lowry is mulling Deals from both Houston Rockets & Toronto Raptors and says he will make his Decision by the weekend

Golden State has Signed Guard Shaun Livingston of the Brooklyn Nets to a reported 3 Year Deal at the “Full Mid-Level Exception”
(Terms to be announced July 10th)

Brooklyn Nets to Announce the Hiring of Lionel Hollins as their Head Coach replacing the Departed Jason Kidd who went to the Milwaukee Bucks earlier this week for 2 2nd Round Draft Picks (2015 & 2019)
Coach Hollins will reportedly earn $4 Million per Season

mhenski
mhenski
July 2, 2014 1:02 pm

AWWWWWWWWWWWW SHIT

LINSANITY

The Sixers and Rockets are engaged in “fluid trade talks” about Jeremy Lin, according to Jake Fischer of LibertyBallers.com
It’s been reported that the Rockets have a deal in place to unload Lin’s contract if Carmelo Anthony agrees to join them, so it’s possible that the Sixers are the team on the other end of that deal. A move to Philly wouldn’t be the worst thing for Lin’s fantasy value, if it happens, since the Sixers’ need a SG and they have no veterans in the backcourt.
Related: 76ers
Source: Jake Fischer on Twitter
Jul 2 – 12:58 PM

paulman
paulman
July 5, 2014 10:01 am

***NBA News****
Clippers sign C/F Steven Hawes to a
4 Year $26 Million Deal which is a steal for
A big man who shoots 41-42% from 3 Pt Line

daggolden
daggolden
July 5, 2014 2:26 pm

Sixers guard Pierre Jackson ruptures Achilles in summer league day.The small but instant offense guard goes down in summer league game. Nobody was able to guard him up to that point. Noels looks active and can jump out the gym.. Whats amazing in summer league games is that court is the same size but it looks so much different than in a rena. It looks so small.

paulman
paulman
July 5, 2014 3:05 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Bummer to hear about P Jackson,
He’s probably out for a good while and possibly the Season
Good to hear about Noel’s bring Active and Playing

Biglion821
Biglion821
July 5, 2014 4:09 pm
Reply to  daggolden

The story of the Sixers, on a positive note Pierre will be ready when Saric and Embiid hit the court. SMDH.

daggolden
daggolden
July 5, 2014 5:04 pm

Jeremy Lin to Philly. Talks heat up as Philly is looking to take Jeremy Lin off the hands of the Houston Rockets so the Rockets can clear cap space for potential FA. Of course for the 76ers to help out the Rockets they would receive the Rockets 1st round pick. The Sixers then hopefully would trade Thad during the season to a team for there 1st round pick and possibly have a lottery pick, a mid round pick and a late 1st round pick. Hopefully.

paulman
paulman
July 5, 2014 6:16 pm
Reply to  daggolden

Thadd Young is not going to return a Mid-Round
1st Round Pick On his Own…
The Deal for Lin is supposedly a done deal as the Rockets clear his
$8 Million per Year to Sign Melo or possibly even LeBron…

daggolden
daggolden
July 5, 2014 6:47 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paulman seriously? A 25 year old, good locker room, high character, very skilled player in Young cant get you a 1st round pick? That’s hard for me to believe. My goodness Thad right now if he went in the draft would of been a 1op 12 pick without any question marks. He has no developing to do.

paulman
paulman
July 5, 2014 7:32 pm
Reply to  daggolden

I disagree about Thadd
Poor ball handler & passer, his Defense is average at best
And would be a Role Player 15-18 Minute a Fame Pkayer on the Top
10-12 Teams in the NBA
He had a nice season last year for .76ers no doubt,
But Playing 35 Minutes a game on one of the worst Teams with very few scoring options helps TY Personal Stats for who else was going to score for the 76ers last year???

He would make a nice 2nd Team Scorer and Energy guy on a good Team
And that’s about it…

gmcliff
gmcliff
July 5, 2014 10:24 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paul, the next team Thaddeus is on he will be a starter guaranteed to your objection. You have always underestimated his talent, and have been wrong.

His contract is the only stumbling block to receiving a 1st round pick in return for him…

gmcliff
gmcliff
July 5, 2014 10:27 pm
Reply to  daggolden

The Sixers will have 2 #1 picks next year, 2 in 2016, and 2 in 2017….

By 2016, if they can build this roster with talent, they could make a push for Kevin Durant, and contend for a Championship.

haveacigar
haveacigar
July 5, 2014 6:51 pm

I’m waiting for JH and his sources to report the Lin trade

concrete_marley
concrete_marley
July 6, 2014 8:42 am

Not gonna get carried away with one summer league game, but I must say. I do not see the stiffness in Noel that gmc and DCar so vehemently claim. This kid has two things u cannot teach, supreme athleticism and great hands. If he stays healthy there’s no way he’s cauldwell jones. I’m excited by what i saw yesterday; as any sixer fan should be.

pdiddy
pdiddy
July 6, 2014 9:18 am

Agreed Nerlens looked good.

daggolden
daggolden
July 6, 2014 10:47 am

LMAO Caldwell Jones. Blast from the past!

pdiddy
pdiddy
July 6, 2014 9:20 am

Nerlens better watch himself, Hinkie will hit him in the knee if he causes us to win more than 19 games, Hinkie gonna sick Tonya Harding on that ass lol.

paulman
paulman
July 6, 2014 9:37 am
Reply to  pdiddy

How can this be? GMCliff said that Noel was a bust and would only
Improve his game as good as “Caldwell Jones” .. And Cliff knows his Basketball….

pdiddy
pdiddy
July 6, 2014 9:53 am
Reply to  paulman

Granted it is just one summer league game, but you can see the kids an athlete tho. That you can see, plus he can push the rock for a big man too.

paulman
paulman
July 6, 2014 10:01 am
Reply to  pdiddy

The kid at 19-20 is way more Advanced Offensively, Athletically
Than Caldwell Jones ever was and is just another stupid comparison
By Guru in his mind,GMCliff, who has now fallen out of the Top 10 in his assessments… Ha

paulman
paulman
July 6, 2014 1:44 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

And that’s right from GMCliff’s fingers about Noel’s Ceiling as a Player,
from a few Posts above.. And he tells me to stick to
Football… Good Grief Cliff!!!!!

gmcliff
gmcliff
July 6, 2014 8:58 pm
Reply to  paulman

Please Paul, I stand by my assessment of Noel. I wasn’t impressed a little bit with Caldwell Jones. ….Oh, he is not a center, or a Power Forward….you have to physically be a MAN inside….which he is not….again my wang is thicker than he is…..

Again, I stand pat on my opinion of him. That’s okay, if you were impressed, because opinions change on here frequently when posters reality sets in….

paulman
paulman
July 6, 2014 9:54 am

Other Notables from Summer Games

#4 Overall Pick Aaron Gordon Shot 3-11
With 7 Turnovers (How the Magic took him at #4
With N Vonleh on the Board is a real head scratcher and a missed
Pick that they will regret big time)

#6 Marcus Smart shot 2-8 from the field

Shabazz Napier struggled all Game per Everyone who was there

gmcliff
gmcliff
July 6, 2014 9:04 pm
Reply to  paulman

Shabazz Napier struggled all Game per Everyone who was there

FYI, He’s a bum too…

gmcliff
gmcliff
July 6, 2014 9:05 pm
Reply to  paulman

#4 Overall Pick Aaron Gordon Shot 3-11
With 7 Turnovers

GMCliff said he was a bum too

gmcliff
gmcliff
July 6, 2014 9:08 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

a lot of these guys are JUST college ball players,,, but not SERVICABLE impact NBA PLAYERS…..Those are Pauls guys…They will enjoy the bench.

Biglion821
Biglion821
July 6, 2014 8:44 pm

Okay I like what I saw from Nerlens yesterday but you dudes need to pump the breaks just a little. He’s not even allowed to go back to back in summer league games, before you say oh they’re being careful, please he needs to be on the court playing ball.

gmcliff
gmcliff
July 6, 2014 9:03 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

That’s okay Biggie. Kelly Olnyk looked good in Summer League too, watch out Boston may have another Sabonis on their roster….LOL!!!!

i DON’T CARE WHAT HE SCORED…..He looked like an average player to me…Hes playing against mostly NBDLeaguers – wake up all you rationalizers – …….He is Caldwell Jones……

Biglion821
Biglion821
July 6, 2014 9:18 pm

I guess this Bader guy shoots it too well to make the team.