Foles Overcomes Awful First Half
Chip Kelly will never admit it, but he had thoughts about turning to Mark Sanchez to start the second half.
How could he not?
In the first half of Sunday’s game, Nick Foles played one of the worst halves of football that I’ve ever seen.
Foles was rattled early, and it took him a long time to calm down and regain his confidence. He was sloppy and careless with the football. He held on to the ball way too long at times and was indecisive. He missed open receivers throughout the day. In the first half, he was just a complete trainwreck.
The turnovers were all completely inexcusable, and caused major momentum shifts. Against a better team, Foles’ careless interception in the endzone might have been the final nail in the coffin that cost the Eagles’ the game. He’s got to a better job feeling the pass rush around him, and protecting the football when defenders close in around him. You’re just not going to win many games in this league when your quarterback is a turnover machine. Foles was so bad at protecting the football in the first half, and I haven’t seen an Eagles’ quarterback play so poorly in that regard since Michael Vick against the Cleveland Browns in the opener of the 2012 season.
However, to Foles’ credit, he was able to finish strong and do enough to help the team mount a furious comeback in the second half. He looked considerably more settled, and began to make some better reads and throws. The most important moment came when he found Jeremy Maclin wide open for a 68-yard strike to break the tie and give the Eagles their first lead of the day.
In the second half, Foles went 15/21 for 183 yards and two touchdowns, a remarkable improvement from his first half struggles.
Defense/Special Teams Deserve Most Credit For This Win
Give the Eagles’ defense and special teams all the credit in the world for their efforts in this win.
The Jaguars had all of the momentum in the first half, and there was potential for the situation to really get out of control.
However, the defense was up to the challenge today, and shut down the Jaguars after they went up 17-0.
The defense did an absolutely tremendous job in big moments, their third-down efficiency was off the charts today, holding the Jags to just two successful third down conversions on 14 attempts. I don’t care if it was just Chad Henne and the young Jaguars, it is never an easy thing to hold an opposing offense to such a low rate in this league.
Special teams also more than did their fair share in the win.
Only one game into the year, and its time to rave about punter Donnie Jones again. I don’t think the Eagles have ever had a punter this good. He pinned down the Jaguars deep in their own territory several times, which was key in helping the Eagles keep field position manageable until the offense woke up from their funk.
Darren Sproles supplied the spark that really woke the offense up today, but he also contributed a big punt return that helped set the Eagles up for their second score of the day.
Brandon Bair came up with a blocked field goal.
Finally, rookie kicker Cody Parkey was faced with a 51-yard field goal attempt in the second half to tie the game, and the inexperienced kicker came through.
Quick Thoughts
Offense
- LeSean McCoy was limited throughout the day by the Jacksonville defense, but still managed to accumulate 115 yards from scrimmage.
- Fantastic debut for Darren Sproles, who finished with 11 carries for 71 yards and a touchdown. Sproles is a big-time player that makes game-changing plays. That’s been his trademark throughout his career. We saw today just how much of an impact-player he can be.
- Zach Ertz came down with three catches for 77 yards and a touchdown.
- Quiet game for Riley Cooper, who had just four catches for 29 yards.
- Very nice performances from backup offensive lineman Andrew Gardner and David Molk, who were pressed into service when Evan Mathis and Allen Barbre went down.
- Jordan Matthews caught two passes for 37 yards in his NFL debut.
Defense
- Mychal Kendricks was tied for team lead in tackles with six, and also picked up a sack in the first quarter.
- Malcolm Jenkins stuffed Toby Gerhart for a loss in the first quarter. The Eagles’ run defense was solid through most of the game.
- Cary Williams was beat by rookie Allen Hurns for a touchdown in the first quarter.
- Brandon Graham played what I thought was his best game as an Eagle. He was active throughout the game, and had a big stop on Toby Gerhart at the end of the first quarter.
- Nate Allen got to Chad Henne on a safety blitz to kill a drive on 3rd down with a sack.
- Connor Barwin always knows when to get his hands up. He batted down a pass on third down.
- Fletcher Cox was tied for the team lead with six stops, and also ran a fumble back for a touchdown.
- Trent Cole got the sack on Cox’s fumble recovery.
Special Teams
- Cody Parkey converted both of his field goals, and was also solid on kickoffs.
- Donnie Jones does a tremendous job with his punts, but give credit to guys like Brandon Boykin and Bryan Braman for getting in position to down them as well.
Final Thoughts
It was a great character win for the Eagles today, but there are a great deal of concerns about this team moving forward.
The biggest right now is the offensive line. With both Evan Mathis and Allen Barbre down, the Eagles could be in a really rough situation at this position next week.
One of Nick Foles’ best qualities has been his ability to bounce back from rough performances, and he’s going to need to do that in a big way if the Eagles are to stand a chance against the Colts on the road. Foles can’t go into a shell for a half like he did today.
I’m really excited about what the defense and special teams were able to do today. They rose to the challenge and played with a great intensity that helped this team come back. A much steeper challenge awaits them next week.
We have to come to grips with reality here.
This is becoming a reoccurring theme for Foles.
He looks completely lost for an entire half which digs a hole for the team the 2nd half.
How long will Chip deal with this?
The Jaguars are shit!
A real franchise Quarterback comes in and take care of business against shit teams not do everything in his power to keep the opposing team in the game.
Foles will get his clock cleaned and seriously injured if he continue to come out like a deer in headlights again.
Give me a quarterback who want to play before the 2nd half, not a deer in headlights looking to fight back after being the root cause for the team being behind.
Reality is, you are not an Eagles fan, you hate Foles because he ain’t dark enough for your liking, & you are a fucking fraud. Go root for the Skins, Seahawks, Niners, or whatever your soup du jour is today! He looked lost early, but managed to win. Try worrying about the real abortion on the the team- The defense! Go get some inoculations & go away!
Hahahahahahahahaha.
No seriously, hahahahahahahahaah.
I am still laughing about how pathetic the Redskins were. I knew the Songs would be back on here trying to pour gasoline. Predictable troll, go pay attention to the train wreck on your beloved ‘Skins and RGIII.
Giving Foles too much credit for that comeback.
On to the Colts. Should be fun.
The Jags are not shit. I posted a comment a few weeks back stating that Gus Bradley has his D playing well. I knew this wasn’t going to be a cake walk. But kudos to our D for not giving up, they could have easily thrown in the towel. Next weeks game should be a shootout
I’m putting it out there right now. The Eagles will not. I repeat.”I WILL NOT”give Nick Foles block buster money in a new contract.
Some can argue that Foles is slowing up the progress of Chip Kelly’s offense and the Eagles could easily have 2 more TD’s a game with a QB who is not afraid to pull the trigger when receivers are running wide up down field.
When are we going to see a long pass to a reciever running in stride or in tight coverage?
Foles is scared and I pray Chip Kelly see what we see here.
Foles is a backup QB.
Beat it, fraud boy! You have LESS than ZERO credibility on here!
Seriously songs why you hate foles so much clouds your judgement everytime plz root for the skins you fucking racist fuck (coming frm a black dude)
All we can say is the Eagles are fortunate to be 1-0
But they did rallied, hung in there and got the “W”
Which at the end of 60 Minutes, is all you can ask for
This is how it is in the NFL, a couple of plays here or there usually make the
Difference between Winning and Losing.
Foles and the entire Offense played like crap in the 1st Half,
Defense gave up big plays, but the Eagles kept Playing
Big Games Defensively by Cox,Graham, Kendrick’s,
Barwin and both Safeties Jenkins & Allen..
A great Game by the Punter & Special Teams
Sproles with the big Play on 4th & 1 which finally woke up the Offense..
Maclin,Ertz,Sproles & McCoy all were active
Now time to get ready for Colts, check where the
O/Line is and prepare for a shot-out with the Colts
Who stuffed the Broncos Running Game for the most part
and Eagles will have to beat them thru the Air with the Pass
Do note that the Following “Good Teams” are all 0-1
After yesterday
NFC – Packers,Saints,Bears,
AFC – Patriots,Colts, Ravens,Chiefs,
So lots of Big Games next Week for no one wants to Start
At 0-2…
How can you say the entire offense played like crap in the first half when receivers were running free and Foles right out miss fired or patted the ball until the linemen got to him?
how long do you expect the offensive line to hold their blocks?
It wasn’t the whole offense.
There were plays when every player did their job on offense only to have to play implode because of Fole’s indecisions, so if we’re going to give credit to Foles when the offense clicks against the likes of the woeful raiders last year, then we must place the blame on him when the offense stalls due to his first half jitters.
This is now something we can come to expect from Foles and that’s not good.
I look at the quarterbacks drafted in his class and have matured and take full control of their offenses.
This Eagles offense would be explosive if we had a Russell Wilson, Kaepernick,or even RG3 guided by Chip Kelly.
Mark Sanchez is better option because he slides in the pocket better when there’s pressure.
Foles is just not the guy who can get this team on to the level to compete for a Championship.
We don’t need just a guy who looks to limit mistakes…You need an assassin at quarterback that have the stuff to rip a team’s heart out.
Foles is not that guy and I’ll be here to say I told you so when we finally get that guy in place.
Hoying was not the guy!
Rodney Peete was not the guy!
Mcnabb was a franchise Quarterback with all the tangibles but was caught with Reid as a stubburn head coach who had no respect for the run game.
I told everyone that Kevin Kolb was shit when everyone here was touting him as the next Joe Montana. He was shit…”Had a stronger arm than Foles” mind you.
Michael Vick had the tangibles yet refused to learn how to protect himself.
Now, we’re here with Foles who is just good enough to beat bad teams.
Foles has an average arm, still plays scared, and lack the accuracy or deep balls.
The running game hides Foles and opposing teams know this.
Foles didn’t bring us back. ok?
Sproles brought us back.
This offense flows from the run game, so why not get a QB to compliment the run game?
Foles is a liability in this offense.
Anyone with common sense reads to the above and agrees with knows nothing about football.
Get a quarterback to compliment the run game?
Mike Vick had the intangibles?
McNabb was only held back by Reid.
PURE STUPIDITY AT ITS FINEST.
you missed a few.
Hoying was shit, so was Kolb, but when I mention those you guys called me a racist.
I was right then and I’m right about Foles.
He is what is.
Foles is everything we seen in the 1st half and everything we seen in the 2nd half.
Not good enough to win against playoff caliber teams and you must win against playoff teams to win it all.
I think you missed those points, so don’t just pick points out of context from my comment…address the whole.
Foles is not the answer if we are looking to contend for a Super Bowl.
The defense have improved and has the special teams.
Foles is the weak link on this team.
First your full of shit….this site wasnt even up when Bobby Hoying was playing so youre just stating something to make up for the nonsense you posted.
Second no one in this team really warmed up to Kolb and as soon as Vick stepped in the game and won the town was done with him.
So again…youre just stating nonsense.
And now your suddenly on the defense special teams has improved tip and like Chip Kelly?
And the award for the 2014 GCobb.com Golden FlipFlop Award goes to…….(drumroll)
SONGSRME2!!!!
BAMMA
your on the money Songs! It should also be mentioned that Jax lost their best player on defense, Jonathan Cyprien AND his backup…and suddenly Foles can hit a few passes. Foles is ok when all of these factors are working:
a. no pressure and he can sit in the pocket all day to find receivers
b. wide receivers are wide open
c. the running game is working well
But dont look for Foles to beat the good teams for you. He is choking under the pressure…a number of observers say that Sanchez outplayed him in camp and if it was a competition he would have lost…
Foles is a very nice kid, a team guy…
He’s not a leader that can we can win the big one with…he chokes!
c. when
Eagles lost two linemen.. It’s all part of the game
The Blocked FG by Bair was a huge Play also
You don’t make judgments of a quarterback on a half of football any more than if he throws 7 touchdowns. All this article does is brings out all the cockroaches that wish their hero was coming back to the Eagles from the Jets
Another thing…
For all you losers who claim is a black or white thing.
Romo is the best quarterback in the NFC East….HANDS DOWN!
Eagles have the better “TEAM” and “COACH”.
I seen all the NFC East games and Foles is 3rd behind Romo and RG3 as far as talent goes from the quarterback position, and this offense would be unstoppable with either of those 2 in an Eagle’s uniform.
You lost all credibility when you posted Mike Vick had all the intangibles but didnt protect himself.
Stop posting your Madden knowledge of football. Youre an idiot.
ROFL…. Are you serious? Did you see what Romo did against the Niners? SONG I have been reading this blog for years and I have never seen anyone write the idiotic comments as well as you do. Romo iis being torched by the Dallas media right now. RGIII couldn’t put together a drive to save his life
I liked you more as a racist wagon jumper now you’re just an idiot.
BTW first time posting have been viewing this blog for years. I love it and I bleed Kelly Green! GO EAGLES!
Welcome Epidemic.
GO BIRDS !!!
For posting the following:
“Mark Sanchez is better option because he slides in the pocket better when there’s pressure.”
Shows you watch football with the eyes of 15 y.o with a joystick in his hands. Anyone who agrees with is just a negative agenda troll looking to latch on.
That may be the dumbest insightful analysis about football I have ever seen.
Sanchez slides from pressure and is better in the pocket……
SANCHEZ WHOLE DAMN CAREER IS SLIDING IN THE POCKET INTO A BUTTFUMBLE.
STUFUCKINGPIDITY!!!!
round 1 goes to Jeremy Maclin vs Desean Jackson –
Maclin -4 catches for 97 yards and a TD
Jackson – 8 catches for 62 yards
If Foles was even 15% more accurate in the first half Maclin could have had a monster day. He got behind the defense more than once and they werent all busted plays on the defenses part.
Watching DeSean in Washington he had 10 targets and caught 8. They were definitely trying to get the ball in his hands in space.
His true impact wont come until they can pass block long enough to get down the field. Right the Skins can’t hold for 5-7 step drops. Subway Bob was getting murdered.
Although he has a cannon his downfield accuracy is suspect as well.
Desean had 5 first downs, 3 catches that went for zero yards each, and a reverse that lost 9 yards. He didn’t play bad just average, his QB couldn’t get him the ball in full stride ( dink and dunking ) In the west coast offense( Gruden’s offense) the number one wide receives has to catch slants and DJax doesn’t venture over the middle.
To be fair he had a couple of shots he got behind the defense but Bob was out of the pocket or on his back.
Washington was going up against a monster defense there in Houston…Watt is a beast and when we play Houston we will see why Washington had such a problem
But they lost Clowney, isn’t that just like the excuse you gave the Jags?
Blasphemy!
Songs:
“Romo is the best quarterback in the NFC East….HANDS DOWN!”
LOL
Romo
22 of 37 281 1td 3 ints….offence scored 17 pts
Foles
27 of 45 322 2td 1 int (2 fumbles)…offence scored 27 pts
RGIII
29 of 37 267 0td 0int (2 fumbles)….offence scored 6 pts
Keep screaming that the other QBs are better than Foles. Maybe if you scream loud enough, what you hope for might come true.
RG3 couldn’t convert 3rd downs ( 3-12 ) that is why Washington only managed 6 total points.
Nick Foles,27-45, 322yd, 60%, 2TD, 1int, 5sack, 87.5 QB rating @win, 2 fumble
Tony Romo,23-37, 281yd, 62%, 1TD, 3int, 3sack, 60. QB rating @loss, 0 fumble
RG3 ———29-37, 267yd, 78%, 0TD, 0int, 3sack, 96.7QB rating @loss, 2 fumble
Romo and RG3 played against better teams.
The Eagles would have lost against both the 49ers and the Texans if Foles would have come out against them like he did against the hapless jags, so please, stuff your stats up yours.
Kirk Cousins wouldn’t of went 3 for 12 on 3rd down yesterday with a weapon like Desean Jackson on the team.
and I already know Nick Foles wouldn’t go 3-12 on 3rd down if still had Desean Jackson on the team —
Just saw the Ray Rice video of him punching his lady.
He should be suspended indefinitely.
DISGUSTING.
and his team mates should shun him, have a big meeting discussing how they don’t want to play with this scumbag, they should threaten to kick his a$$ at practice….
john harbaugh should be suspended for his defense of him… criminal…
Dont always agree with you HAC but that is 100% on point.
Wow.
And he doesn’t even pause after hitting her. No hands to the head…”what did I do?” type reaction. Just right to dragging her out of there.
The league HAS to revisit the suspension after that…..coonduct detrimental to the league….whatever.
Take on the union over this.
Yeah whatever he’s suspended for one more week and the police saw the same damn video, you want to be mad at something be mad about if it were you or me our asses would be in jail. Again in 10 years daddy will have some explaining to do to his daughter.
So to review your position….
You were on here for 6 months ripping at Cooper over and over. (Disgusting remark…worth of being ripped)
But for this disgusting action – far worse in my humble opinion, your response is, “Yeah, whatever”??????????????????
“Just a little explaining to do”???????????????????
Baltimore Ravens should cut him post haste and eat the cap implications.
‘Yeah whatever’ …unfortunately a bad word trumps this pussy, disgusting deed…agree, cut him make a stance.
What I’m saying is Ray Rice like Riley Cooper and all the rest of these idiots have been dealt with, the only people Ray Rice needs to worry about is his family and how he makes amends to his wife. All this oh he should be suspended for life is grandstanding shit. Like I said be mad because the double standard that allows him to be out of jail doesn’t apply to me or you.
Just saying why not the moral outrage from the league and the AA community. Sticks and stones (and a grown mans fist) break bones but you know what they say about names
Terrance knighton from the broncos is the first nfl player to comment on rice… Good for him. Now let’s hope so e of his team mates show their disgust!
Hey if it makes you feel better go picket the NFL offices or stop watching football because you know there are some terrible guys playing this game. Woman beaters, drunk drivers, racists, dog killers and the list can go on and on.
Why would the AA community have to speak out? Why would his teammates have to speak out ? How do you know that haven’t spoken to him privately.
Team mates and the community had a lot to say about the infamous cooper… Why isn’t al sharpton on CNN talking about the injustice perpetrated on this poor woman?
HAC you need to tread lightly with this race thing don’t start something you can’t finish, sharpton really
But on this situation she smacked him 1st but no reason to hit her so hard and act like he doesn’t care…..HE needs to be banned for life
Poor woman? She’s doing just fine after all she married the asshole.
Zilents…’finish what i start” not sure what that means–
I am done with social commentary- there is an obvious double standard in our society, not just our sports society. certain words, phrases, emails bring about the fall of dynasty’s, violence is just accepted in certain circles.. enough with social commentary
nice win birds
It means you forever talking out your Ass about race especially against black peeps why don’t you say what u really want and say u getting tired of these niggas doing what they want like blacks are the only FUCK ups y is big Ben still playing he raped a girl
Violence is accepted in certain circles? Like the Italian Mafia or the Russian mafia? WTF violence is never acceptable in anybody’s circle or maybe it’s just you and your circle.
hmmm i’ve ripped ben more than any other player in the league. i think he is scum.
as for treading lightly– two NBA owners gave up their franchise because of a sensitive word or thought…
but again, i’m done with social commentary.
in days past the mafia was very violent– see very few murders nowadays associated-
but all for naught…. ravens locker room turning on Rice- very very good– I was asking for that weeks ago- better late than never! This is going to spiral out of control for rice…
Well how bout this I won’t brineg up race if you don’t how bout that
It’s going to be a long year on gcobb if the usual suspects who either lack football knowledge or for some reason dislike our QB for unknown reasons besides just not wanting to admit he’s a top notch quarterback.
We routed an NFL team 34-17. Ya’ll act like we are Alabama and the Jags are Florida Atlantic or something… no… the Jags are an NFL team, there are only 32 teams that are filled with the best players in the league. We routed an NFL team 34-17. Our QB who last year had the 3rd best season in NFL history, came back from a piss poor first half (the entire offense played terrible in the 1st half) to throw for a 70% completion rate and 2 touchdowns in the 2nd half.
Our special teams looked better than I’ve ever seen them, and we have a kicker who will constantly kick the ball to the back of the endzone on kickoffs, and a dangerous return man in Sproles, and possibly the best punter in the league.
Also the Defense flat out played good football. The only two touchdowns the Jags scored came off short fields, and we stopped the run very well and put a lot of pressure on the QB. Very good defensive effort that looks promising for the future.
So we routed an NFL team and showed some excitement on D and Special Teams, yet ya’ll just bitch like women on here. The only worry to take from this game is if Evan Mathis will be okay.
There is your daily dose of reality, now continue with tearing the 1-0 Philadelphia Eagles apart.
*meant best players in the world, not best players in the league
good points antitrust.
One thing to point out about the defense however, is that they were playing against Chad Henne and 3 out 4 rookie recievers. True, we shut them out in the second half, but if the special teams had not bailed the out by blocking a field goal, and the Jags miss another, it could have easily been 23-0 at halftime.
Second thing is that regardless of the outcome, Foles did not play well overall. I believe that the Jags and Gus Bradley have got a good defense, so that may be part of the reason, but we will be playing many more good defenses this year and we need to have a reliable and consistant QB to lead them. I would expect that Foles will come out very strong next week, at least based on how he performed last year he seems to follow up a poor performance with a strong one. To his credit, Nick came back out and played better in the second half, but it was not the desired way that I wanted to start the season.
Lastly, Kelly will need to look at his play calling. The league has caught on to his double screen play. I want to see more mis-matches with Ertz and a stronger running attack up front to help open things up. Aside from Sproles TD, I thought that Shadey and Sproles had to fight for every yard they got, not the large holes like last year.
Next up is the Colts.
GO BIRDS!!
There are going to be ups and downs in every game. The only thing that matters is a W or a L. The whole offense struggled in the first half, and the line had a tough game, but we came back strong and routed an NFL team who I can see being bothersome in a lot of games this year (Jax has good coaching, especially on D). There are many more positives to take from this game than negatives. We know our offense will be good.. but the way our D played, especially the front 7, was very encouraging. Kendricks, Cox, Barwin, Boykins.. are all top NFL players and will just get better. Plus our special teams unit has a chance to be really special. Overall, I felt really good at 425 pm yesterday!
A win is a win……doesn’t matter how you get the win as long as you win.
Songs, let me introduce myself. My name is Igglessb and when I decide to troll someone, you, I tear them apart and make them look like a fool.
Are you serious about RGVick and Homo being better QB’s then Foles? Clearly you have ZERO football knowledge!!!! What is the MAIN stat that matters as far as regular season stats for QB’s goes? WINS
Foles-1
Homo-0
RGVick-0
You have stated over and over again how great RGVick is and how the addition of DJax was going to take the Red Potatoes over the top. Well….they scored 6pts against a team that went 2-14 last season AND lost the best defensive rookie in the league to an injury in the 2nd Quarter. What does that tell us? RGVick is a NFL back-up at best right now. Maybe with some good coaching he can be a decent starter in this league.
As far as Homo goes, HE IS the reason the Cowpokes lost yesterday. End of argument.
So since you don’t want stats showed to you to show who is better, I showed you why Foles is the best QB in the NFC East. Oh btw, the Texans played against the team that had the #1 pick in the draft soooooo how are they better then the Jags? Remember you can’t use any stats to prove the Texans are better.
Your turn fool………
Haha…It was so funny reading the posts during the game…some of you cats were all over the place with your comments.
Ugly first half, pretty good second half. But still a lot of questions/concerns, across the board.
Starting with the WR corps…Had the Eagles not made a real effort not to get Cooper the ball on screens and quick outs he’d have no catches. He’s no threat after catch, 30 yards receiving? Give Matthews his spot!
Had the Jags corner received safety help like he thought Maclin would of also had a 30 yard receiving game. Ertz needs to see more passes come his way.
Overall the Eagles defense played ok..But the Jags offense isn’t good, they were able to capitalize on the Eagles mistakes, but they will struggle to move the ball 80 yards down the field against any team. Eagles defense is still suspect, will have a better idea next week. Cary Williams , poor 1st half, he’s better when he’s in press coverage, he’ll give up that deep ball. The 1st half was all on the offense, 90% Foles….even read posts where Paulman wanted Foles sat down…haha…for Sanchez…haha…wow…the first half of the first game??? haha..
Eagles got some good play from Barwin, Graham, Allen, Fletcher, Kendricks.
Real….Fletcher Cox was a problem yesterday. I dont want to hear about the 3-4 defense change. JJ Watt makes plenty of plays from the DE position in the 3-4.
Ive been waiting for that for a while. He doesnt need 15 sacks. He could have 8 and be a beast this year blowing up the run demanding doubles and freeing up our linebackers.
Disagree with you on Cooper. His size in this offense present problems and he had more then a few open plays in the first half.
Foles atrocious first half with his mediocre second left a ton.
Scary thing….he still threw for 300 and they still had play 4 plays over 20 yards in the passing game.
Definitely awful in the first. Would have cost them the game against a better offensive team.
2nd half mediocre? 15-21 for 183 and 2 TDs.
Little bit of stat filler in those numbers Bugs. He still missed some passes badly and he made some checkdowns even though he had people open in the middle of the defense and Maclin behind the defense.
Sproles touchdown opened up the game, without it. I dont think he was bringing the birds back because he was off. Again it was dirty ugly win and I will take it. I wouldnt have sat Foles. But all in all he was a C at best.
Sproles TD….was yet another breakdown on the defensive side of the ball for the Jags…didn’t even look like they had enough players on the field…haha…its all good, Eagles win….We’re undefeated! hahaha
That’s chip coaching he wants the advantage and his tempo creates problems so breakdowns is part of it. Shit we were in breakdown mode the whole 1st half lol
I am not saying that he played well, but I thought mediocre was a bit much for his 2nd half. I thought that he moved better in the 2nd half extending plays after he got pounded in the 1st half (some his own fault).
I think that C or C- is fair considering the huge size disaster that was the first half.
Yes Cox was…. Curry was solid too, in a limited role…Caught a glimpse of Curry coming out the game, his body language showed some frustration….
What open plays did Cooper have in the first half? I must of blinked…I missed them…I didn’t hear his name til the second half….The ball has to be thrown and the ball has to be caught, that’s what making a play is…Cooper made no plays!
3 of thes 20+ yard plays going to Ertz…..makes sense, not gonna find a lot of LB’s to cover Ertz….I think you’ll start seeing teams try throwing a CB his way from time to time…But then his size will then present a problem with smaller CB’s…”pick your poison” I guess.
Foles had a solid second half…But he won’t get “kudos” from me or the endorsement that he “led the Eagles to a victory”….
The game ball should go to the defense! Put in a bad spot from the beginning of the game, only allowing a field goal in the last 3 quarters….yeah, the defense gets my “kudos”…gotta give it while I can, the D is still suspect.
The play calling and the pace of the game really helped Foles in the 2nd half..He didn’t have to do too much, he was able to get the ball out quicker, didn’t have as much pressure coming at him.
Cooper got open on a long ball but didn’t track the ball fast enough but he was open some not as much as maclin
They all looked like they didn’t have many reps together in the pre-season which they didn’t. Hopefully, they will be on the same page next week, because they will need to be.
now hopefully Cooper tracking the ball is rust….for the Eagles sake I hope so…But Cooper just isn’t that good….he’ll have a game or two where he scores a TD or two….soley because the other defense is keying on the other factors of the Eagles offense…But send Cooper out to make a play 1 on 1….it aint happening…
Look if cooper get 50 catches and 7 tds and 500 yds that’s good enough for me cuz he ain’t our main one ERTZ is the the truth and sproles will be the best addition we made before parkey
haha….Parkey gets some kudos from me…that’s a personnel decision that looks to be moving in the right direction…As for Cooper…7TDs…haha…one step at a time, Zilents! But since he is making 1 mil this season not slated to make most of his money til next season, I guess 50 catches 500 yards is cool…But what about next season when he’s making a 3 mil more putting up the same types of numbers….
that’s the up to coaches real if they feel he can produce more then he better or he will be cut….but hey they actually might like him to keep the same numbers
Garbage to sit Foles after one bad half of football. That is exactly what Boomer Esiason said at halftime. Let’s create a QB contreversy after the first week and basic ruin any chance of Foles developing. He responded and played well in the 2nd half.
Andrew Luck has had a lot of bad first halves of football and then brought Indy back too. I am not saying that Foles is Luck, but what I am saying is that you have to give the guy a chance to play.
Real, I agree about Matthews. I think that it will play out at some point in the season and Cooper will be gone next year. I don’t think that he does enough to warrant that contract. I think that Biglion said that he woulda taken Benjamin at that spot and he had a huge 1st game while Smith was inactive.
Jags offense is not good, but anytime you shut down any NFL offense for a half, I will take it.
Honestly they should go to Ertz until the defense stops it. He should have a huge season which will draw some pressure away from the outside WRs and the RBs out of the backfield. They have 2 really good TEs that they can use to dominate.
Was Really great to see Sproles out there on kicks and in the offense. Love that guy! I hope he can stay healthy all season, because he is a real difference maker.
Bugs…Smith was active, but didn’t get playing time….Which I am wondering about? You have to let the kid see some action…sitting and watching doesn’t help a players growth…if this is how they are going to handle Smith, then I am about to change my tune and call it a bad pick!
I agree with you about that. I didn’t see him at all, so I figured he was inactive. Should have put them in there on some situational plays to get his feet wet.
SONGS WHY DON”T YOU GO SUCK RG3 DICK. He does have talent but why does it matter if you can’t use it. Romo better then foles…..ha you know you sound stupid….please believe me most cowboys fans are so sick of homo they would give their left nut to get manziel or anybody but him. Yes the comments betwween 1 and 4 yesterday were crazy…Foles played like shit but pman im dissapointed, not sure if you were serious about the sanchez thing but come on you know better. OH yea REALTALK all the if and buts don’t matter with maclin cuz if foles didn’t play like like shit in the 1st half maclin would had a monster day he was open a lot
haha…I’m a Maclin fan…think he can be a game changer…But Maclin didn’t do ish…he was thrown to one time and looked scared to break on the ball….Maclin didn’t do much of anything yesterday…When evaluating the team if and buts do matter…especially when a player score a touchdown because a player just lets him walk down the field…come on…being open doesn’t equate to making plays…and from my perspective, Maclin was open 2 to 3 times…not a lot
Does your TV offer that off the screen perspective? if so I need to get one, thats how I must of missed Maclin being open as much as you state.
this website I watch the game on allows me to pinpoint the whole field so I can see maclin run his routes he was open for about 8 to to 10 more pass plays, and when I say open I don’t mean that safety forgot his shit open but 1 to two steps. I’m not a maclin fan….I’m a eagles fan and he did play soft as shit dropping one easy one and breaking late… but he will be ok
Thanks for the comments zilents, you could not see that from the TV shots. I also thought that he was not getting open. I hope that he and. Foles will get more on the same page, Cooper also for what it is worth.
Watching Manning last night brought back one of my biggest concerns with Foles. He just seems too deliberate, takes too long to get rid of the ball. Manning and some of the other top QB’s will be getting the ball out so quick that it negates any attempt at a pass rush. I know that you need quick recievers who can get separation immediately, but it is something that I want to see Foles make improvement. I had hoped they would have addressed it in the off season, but it didn’t look like it against the Jags.
And Matthews was wide open on crossing routes at least 3x in the game.
The good side of this is this wasnt the offense being figured out….this was all self inflicted.
I think you see a more run heavy look with screen etc the next 3 weeks until they get healthy or get Lane back.
Long slow developing may not work with backups. However I do want to see Tobin at RT.
Firstly ,kudos to songs ..I have one wish for this Xmas ,that some how some way we learn with technology how to block songs on G Cobb site. It’s a pleasure to read some of the passionate insightful comments ,however from the true fandom…we all understand that as Eagle fans who truly bleed green ,we are many times jaded by hopes ,desperation ,and starvation for a Lombardi trophy..like others I agree ,how bad it looked early on for the franchise ,it’s fortunes at QB ,it’s defense was also on its heels …That’s why they play 60 minutes and why football in its entirety is such a stage for drama queens to act out there frustrations snap by snap…a coach is more focused on the goal ,continuity and staying the course..myself included ,we’d all be better for it with that evil word patience..paulman had a quick hook ,and admittedly so did I..it was that bad early on..guys like Koop and songs are just haters ,so we all filter there comments based upon a bias and in songs case a predjudice…I thought Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier a half century ago? Let’s not lose sight ,the skins ,and cowgirls are as bill parcels said it best ,what there records say they are ,and tonight a G men team learning a new system ,will as per the norm take time to absorb it all ,and with she li at the helm we can only hope that the birds sit atop the east ,I truly believe the best thing happened yesterday ..NFL games across the league (with the notable exception of Seattle) looked similar,and let’s all be real here ..if not for shipping pencil neck henerey ,we lose this game …5touchbacks ,two field goals ,including a 51 harder to tie the game …this is why instead of a home opener L,we didn’t hear (I gotta do a better job) we have a coaching staff with kuhonies ,they addressed the thin leg ,and replaced him with clubber lang…noticeable contributions ,from Barwin who is a force ,always around the ball…graham who perhaps either justified his lofty pick and or is increasing his value as a commodity to others ..the back end is still a concern ,and with a better pass rush (where was ) currey? It’s a drama ,with songs as the court jester ,and we all must admit ,Sundays ,Mondays and Thursdays are now relevant again..it’s going to be fun..this is just week one and already we’ve shot the sheriff and then brought him back …foles is like the thrilla video ,he’s resurrected …and so is our season ..thanks to chip for Cody Parker ..my Xmas in sept ..
SONGS… I don’t know if you noticed but in the Cowboys game there was a lot of Red jerseys. Fans here in the DFW (Dallas/Fort Worth) have had enough of the Romo mistakes and would rather sell their tickets then go to the game. Romo has no excuses this time. His offensive line is above average and he has good weapons. Romo could have never bounced back like Foles did last night. RGIII is just horrible. New coach same results as last year. Eli… Well Eli is declining. Was it me or did anyone see Dez quit? That guy is in top shape and the reason he walked to the locker room was because of dehydration.
I am not happy with the 1st half. But Foles rebounding and deliver the “W” is a good thing to see. I can’t remember the last time I felt good about our QB. McNabb was the closest we had to a franchise QB and after hearing him in the broadcast booth I don’t know how we won so many games. He’s not the brightest light in the room. Defense adjusted and played very good throughout the game. All good teams adjust to what the opponent is doing. Special teams were stellar. And our kicker was very good.
LOL, wait I didn’t see a 4:00 game after I left the Linc I went to dinner before heading home. Dallas’s stadium was all 49ers fans. is that what I just read? LOL
Yo paulman we are about to find out about that oline depth, wouldn’t that big UCLA guard look good in the first round instead of Smith? With Brandon Graham playing like he did yesterday Smith may not see the field this year.
No doubt Biggy, but Smith looking more and more like a long range project, we could probably list half a dozen players or more that could be helping this team right now. I know that you can’t make EVERY move correctly, but with all the time and energy spent on scouting and drafting, your First Round Pick needs to see the field in the first year. It is still early and maybe he will surprise us all (I hope he does) but at this point you cannot help but be disappointed and look at the other players who could be helping us now.
CB Bradley Roby for the Broncos at #31 was a Steal.. He looks like a Player ..
San Diego draftees on display tonight ( CB Verrett, OLB Attaochu)
Cardinals SS Buccannon and TE Niklas
Lions TE Ebron and LB Von Noy
NYG WR Beckham and OG Richburg
Keep an Eye on Cardinals Draft Pick John Brown from Pittsburgh State (Kansas) – This kid is very exciting and a playmaker, He will handle some Punts/Kick-Offs and is a 4th/5th WR, and will get some bubble routes, end around, .. He had a very nice Pres-Season and has a bright future in the NFL..
NY Giants WR Beckham is out for tonight’s game Fyi..
Nice Game-Winning TD by my man, Cardinal WR John Brown…
Gice this kid a half a Season to get under his belt and he will be making Plays…
I though this kid would have been perfect fit in Chip Kelly’s Scheme..
and had him Mocked many times as a 5th/6th Round Pick
Argh!!!
Good call PMan- it also looks like Michael Floyd is Carson Palmer’s #1 option. Attaochu, Richburg, Buccannon, and Verrett all looked like NFL players last night.
No, but Larry Warford – drafted last year in the early 3rd – would look a lot better at that position, and Jeremiah Attaochu would look better than Marcus Smith right now….
Hindsight being 20/20…..If you move up, and draft Ha Ha Clinton Dix, and make a move to get Jordan Matthews in the 2nd, without giving up our original spot in the 2nd – We could have drafted Jeremiah Attaochu, and the looks of an even stronger draft…..
Your boy Benjamin had a big game Big.
That kid can play, he should have never gotten to Carolina.
wow for someone to NOT be a REAL EAGLES FAN (Songs), you sure do read and comment on a ton of the articles posted on this site…I think you just like to moisten your britches (no offense to the other ladies who read this). Who is your real team because you are truly not an eagles fan.
The Eagles are thin at RB, will they sign the woman beater Ray Rice?
Someone will take a chance on him
Carolina and San Francisco might want him, they have women beaters on their team right now.
Panthers have 4 Healthy Backs on their Roster and have no Need for Ray Rice nor would they sign him for Owner is old school when it comes to obtaining Players with legal issues/baggage hanging over them
Great move by the Ravens. Goodell needs to suspend himself 6 games for being a dumbass.
just reading box scores and Matt Ryan torched the Saints for 448 yards and 3 touchdowns, ouch! Jarius Byrd got 28 million guarantee 6 year 56 million for that?
Eagles 0 very good call….I know the bluster bunch will somehow defend that secondary but sometimes a good signing is the one you don’t make…
And izzel I agree with u
Jet box score has Mike Vick with an incomplete pass . must have been a Morningweig failed trick play.
Vick had a designed Rollout down in the Red Zone, He rolled out to his left, and had Eric Decker by 2 steps and throw just a tad ahead of him,, went off Decker’s hands and was a catchable ball if Decker dove for it, but he was open for an easy TD Pass.. on the Next Play, Vick scrambled to his right and then cut back towards to endzone and got creamed at the 3 Yard Line and Fumbled the ball.. Same old Vick…
what? Mike Vick is horrible in the red zone everybody knows that.
That was Smith who fumbled the ball at the 3 yard line….Know your facts…Vick was lined up as a WR on that play you reference…
If anything its the same ol Marty!
I stand corrected – It was Geno Smith who Fumbled at the 3 Yard Line,
When asked what happened after the game on the play. Geno Smith replied. “I want to be like Mike Vick” … enough said….
Dolphin box score doesn’t register Dion Jordan with any stat? hurt or just a bench warmer ?
I beleive he is serving a suspension- cant remember exact details
*****Hear it here first*****
The Eagles will sign LaMichael James this week and cut Trey Burton to make room for James.
Back L James is another Kajon Barner in my opinion and simply not tough enough to contribute at the NFL Level…
**NFL News****
Colts Robert Mathis tore his Achilles earlier today and will be out for the Season
Should the Eagles Call Colts and Offer DE Brandon Graham for WR Hakim Nicks straight up ?? Both Players are Free-Agents after this Season, and will probably move on to new Teams anyways and could be a good Fit for both the Players and Teams… Make the Call Howie…
I wouldn’t. Even Graham isn’t a monster in the puss rush why would the Eagles take away from their already thin pass rush only to add a WR that will leave at the end of the year. Plus we have enough possession receivers on the team.
Brandon Graham will be leaving the Eagles after 2014 Season as a Free-Agent and will get a nice Contract Offer from some Team that employs a 4-3 Scheme.. I am not sold on Maclin’s Knee or toughness to last an entire 16 Game Schedule.. Nicks would be a nice addition to the WR Corp as its the teams weakest link right now… Plus Nicks would love to get back at the Giants and knows the NFC East and NFC Conference very well .. A No-Brainer Deal in my opinion..
Curry still has 2 Years of his Rookie Deal, Graham is bolting on the 1st Day of Free-Agency..
no way… we need pass rushers more than receivers right now.
***More NFL News***
KC Chiefs lost LB Derrick Johnson and DE Mike DeVito both for the Season to Torn Achilles Tendons….
Chiefs are in need of a DE… (Brandon Graham or Vinny Curry..)
I wonder if Coach Reid told the KC press yesterday that he has to do a better job getting his players in a position to make plays after that big home loss.
Eagles0 yes he did lol. He said it was negligence on his part to only give Charles 7 carries. I’m glad those days are behind us.
Johnson blew out his Achilles Paul….
But you are correct, great time to get SOMETHING for Graham, that you wouldn’t get at the end of the year in a trade….
I stated a “Torn Achilles” for both Johnson and DeVito ?
My bad, just getting back from vacation Paul….bear with the old man brother…lol…
****More NFL News****
Dolphins Place LB Daniel Ellerbe of Season Ending IR List due to a Hip Injury
Are David Molk and Andrew Gardner NFL starters now?
It appears so… Barbre to miss 3-4 Weeks with High-Ankle Sprain and
Mathis closer to about 7-8 Weeks..
Lane Johnson out 3 more Weeks so Eagles will likely have Molk at Guard
then Gardner at RT with D Kelly as a roving back-up with Matt Tobin who is still expect to be out another Week or so…
Eagles may want to look at RT Eric Winston for the short Term..
Winston was a final Cut from the Seattle Seahawks a couple of weeks ago and is a 10 Year Vet and at least is in Football Shape…
A win is a win, but…….how many of you still think this is a 10, 11, 12 win team??
I still say if you fix the Defense, and we will have a better chance at being elite…
What do you think???
Look around the NFL GMCliff
Look at all the Teams that lost and are 0-1 (are they still 10,11,12, Win Teams…)
Now Look at the other Teams that Won and are now 1-0, but how many of these Teams as 10,11,12 Win Teams..
The 2 Surprise Teams in the NFL in 2014 are the Dolphins and Vikings
the 2-3 Real Disappointing Teams will be the Chiefs, Ravens & Cowboys
lets see the 4 Teams tonight for their could be a surprise team like the Chargers or Lions come out of the 1st Week flying high…
Saints D gives up 37 pts,
Bears lose lead at hone versus Bills
Steelers D gives up 27 to Browns Offense
Patriots give up 250 Yards on teh Ground
Broncos cling on to a 24-0 Lead at Home
There are no more good Defenses around the NFL
Take Seattle and then a drop off to the Panthers, Bengals, 49ers, Cardinals and maybe add the Vikings under Zimmer and
who has shut down Defenses ?
I believe the 2nd half Eagles defense is who they really are and thats a top 5-10 defense
They’re certainly not the Seahawks or Niners but the Birds have alot of potential to climb the defensive charts this year
For me, even if I accepted that reasoning, that still is no reason, or excuse to not shore up the Defense…..make no mistake about it – It’s not…
Because if they did…..They would be a much better team – from top to bottom.
To accept that Paul to me is asinine – You mean to tell me that just because the majority of Defenses around the league are average at best, …..that we(The Eagles) should just be content with mediocrity – and appreciate it – and not improve the talent base huh???……
LOL!!! I don’t accept that logic at all…That’s just dumb…
So you’re saying, you still see a 11-12 win team Paul???
Bring in Incognito for a look see, the positive definitely will out weigh the negative he is worth the gamble.
Ray Rice cut and suspended indefinitely….
What he did was bad and I think he deserves to be punished. It’s very unfortunate that his career could end over a single act of rage.
NFL is just trying to cover their ass now that the other vid has been made public. All that “they didn’t see it” is bullshit.
He’s getting thrown under the bus. But I can’t feel sorry for him.
It’s all a bunch of bs, nobody gives 2 shits about Ray Rice or his wife, all the sudden domestic abuse is gonna end, just like drunk driving and dog fighting stopped.
I think domestic abuse in elevators will drop-off significantly. But lowlifes will always abuse those who are weaker and can’t defend themselves.
What it proves is our society has a selective indignation in regards to violence. Too easy to hurl shame tactics. we are a nation of laws. The laws are clear in regards to individuals who either assault or have been assaulted. The video showed just what I expected. Two people in a physical altercation with one getting the worst of it. If he was the agressor his ass would be under the jail. He wasn’t. She was. It’s unfortunate, but I don’t need ray Rice and his now wife to OPEN MY EYES about domestic violence. I grew up with it in my own house. I know friends and family who have as well. We all just like to politicize and sensationalize it based on the status of those involved. Meanwhile some regular asshole in everyday America is either stomping the shit out of his/some female or some female is doing the same to some dude because she can. Welcome to America where we act surprised and offended by shit we see or pretend not to see everyday.
Um…he hit her first in the elevator. She hit him. Then he cold cocked her.
What are you talking about?
actually TS she hit him right before they got on the elevator you gotta watch it from the begining
She didnt hit him…that shit was nothing. He HIT her.
I did.
That wasn’t a hit. That was more like “leave me the fuck alone” She basically just swiped him out of the way.
You calling that a hit?
Also don’t underestimate the power of antagonizing someone, that shit will eat away at people and I bet she said some shit to get under her skin, again he should be mature enough to handle it but obviously he can’t control his anger and abusive ways and maybe she knew he would do this or maybe she didn’t but makes you think
I would bet you a MILLION bucks….he waited to get in the elevator because his dumbass didnt think anyone would see. Not realizing cameras everywhere in a casino…which only shows that he is a cold blooded evil dude who has done this more than once.
You probally right it was not really a hit and Izell i’m not defending him at all cuz after he knocked her out he just stood there as if he didn’t give a shit what he did to her and that made me think this dude is fucked in the head
I mean his skin
Thank you brewski for making sense, again nobody feels sorry for Ray Rice I just shake my head at all the posturing and bs on this and every site on the internet.
Doesn’t matter it’s justified. And speak for yourself because I take domestic violence seriously. Ask one of my sisters boyfriend after me and my brother beat the living shit out of him.
I feel and give a shit about Janay. She is the victim. She had been publicly humiliated and it will follow her forever.
The rhetoric on this to prove a point is sickening. This girl got brutally beat. Nothing else matters.
Totally missed my point Izell but you are correct it was totally and completely justified.
My no problem man….I have been reading some real sickening shit regarding this today. I have a huge problem with dudes who put their hands on women and kids…I grew up in a woman heavy family. Saw this alot growing up.
Its sickening and it pissed me off when people said well maybe she hit him etc etc.
Stephen A Smith should just crawl under a rock right now.
There are separate issues at play here.
1. The NFL is lying about not seeing the video. And the fact that they gave him 2 games after seeing the video says to me that Goodell is full of shit about “The Shield” and moral high ground and needs to resign ASAP.
2. The CBA is clear about double jeopardy. I respect the ACLU b/c they often defend scumbags b/c of the larger civil liberties at play – it becomes a slippery slope. NFLPA allows this to stand (which they are punks they likely will) it says a bad precedent that other players can get ensnared in for much lesser offenses.
3. No one feels sorry for Ray Rice.
It was reported by mortensen months ago that this pussy hot her twice in the elevator, she got on the elevator fine and was unconscious getting off… A dirty corrupt cover up.. ..covering for a total POS
Agreed nobody will feel sorry for Ray Rice but the players association better think twice before consigning on this shit storm.
Lol do u watch trailer park boys big shittastrophy
LOL oh yeah Zilent.
Omg my favorite episode is when lahey is talking about shithawks and bubbles is freaking out about them “shitty this and shitty that” lol
Disagree TS…I think it is a mistake to assume anything right now because I think there was cover up or blind eyes all around. I think the Ravens hoped the NFL would do something and then the NFL thought the Ravens would do something.
I think Ray Rice and his team leaned on the Casino a bit…I think the prosecuters turning a blind eye or whatever the fuck they were doing help put the ball in motion.
It don’t matter now his career is over and the dumb bitch still married him. He’s a dumbass and she is to
Careful.
People stay with abuser for a lot of reasons. They have a child and I’m almost positive her family is pushing her to stay. Her DAD was at the mea culpa tour he was making.
If she left she may have no where to go. AND about a quarter of women are killed by their abusers AFTER they live. She may really fear for her life. Fear she may lose custody of her child. Fear she may not have a safe place to turn.
Very True TS.
Careful? can’t say bitch
Well guess what TS I was in a abusive relationship also when I was younger, and guess what the female abused me. I use to get hit all the time just for not putting my shoes in the shoe pile so it goes both ways. I was weak then and thought it was ok for her to do it cuz she is a girl and i’m a man so I just have to deal with it
Of course you can say Bitch. It was the context of what you said.
And my cousin (female) used to beat the shit out of her guy (he used to beat the shit out of her too). So I know domestic violence happens the other way as well.
However about 85% of cases are men on women. So let’s not act like I’m overreacting to the situation.
k u right the context just pisses me off when the make the female seem so weak…like they can’t stand up for themselves….but ray rice is fucked in the head for real and he will regret this for the rest of his life
Its also being reported out here on twitter radio etc. that Ray Rice was telling teammates that she hit him the elevator and he was attacked etc and he said the same thing to the Ravens.
Question for anybody so if the nflpa get this drug abuse thing done do we get lane back
Not if his suspension was for PEDs.
If it was for substance (weed, molly, amphetamines, etc.) than yes.
It was reported MONTHS ago about what was on the tape. So there is PROOF that they knew what was on the tape. And TMZ has said they are releasing evidence tomorrow that shows they KNEW what was on the tape.
No assumptions. They KNEW and gave him a sweetheart deal anyway.
Still think we win 10 games.
I think we have seen Nick Foles work to play better and we will see it again. As bad as it was his final stats are NFL starter Stats. The whole offense (not just Nick) looked like they were not ready to deal with the intensity of the Jaguars. Second half they scored 27 points. If we full games played the way the O played we will see the 40+ and 50+ offensive games.
I think if we hadn’t set the idea in our heads that we would score a Million against the Lowly Jags reactions would be more tempered.
In the End We are 1 and 0
Billy Davis get a clue. Amazing how Brandon Graham plated more in the 2nd half and all of the sudden there was a pass rush and plays being made all in the backfield. Graham ended up playing about 25 snaps which still is comical. Boykins is fucking out of here he played 23 snaps. Unbelievable. 23 snaps. He is gone.
Graham also played for Conner Barwin who I am also starting to question what he does. I know I know he knocks some passes down and supposedly drops back well but as far as making game-changing plays and hearing his name called he really needs to be replaced on passing downs. I never see him following a TE down the field so Im wondering how “dynamic” he is. Eagle fans have been clamoring for Graham, Curry and now Boykins to play more. It looks like we have been right all along. I have no problem with Cole coming from one side and Graham and Curry from the other with Kendricks blitzing.
Yeah man, he keeps balling and they keep talking about the scheme and how he doesn’t fit. In this league it’s far more important for your OLB to pressure the qb than cover, they don’t let you cover in this league anyway.
If you don’t know what Barwin does then you need to watch closer. He’s the best coverage LB, he sets the edge and is very good against the run. He disrupts the passing game and gets good pressure.
Dag, Ive been saying that about Connor Barwin since last year, and many of the homers, felt he deserved to go to the Pro Bowl….
I watched the games, and barely heard his name called in most of them ……For what!!????
Brandon Boykins is a slot corner only, just like Earl Wolfe is strictly a special teams player, and not a starter either…
Dag I’ve long given up on trying to understand a switch to a 3-4 with 4-3 players. But there is still no excuse to not find a way to get your best players on the field more. I give the D credit for remaining stout after being placed in a hole by the O’s turnovers, but I’m also aware of who we played. But a win is a win and I take them anyway I can. Season’s still early for Billy Davis too.
Graham played both the ‘Jack’ and and the ‘Predator’ positions yesterday. He subbed for both Cole and Barwin.
I’m surprised you are questioning Barwin after the game he played yesterday. I was at the game and it looked like he was all over the field making plays.
He knocked down two Chad Henne passes on third down in key spots. Those are game changing type plays. He also defended a pass 15 yards down-field on a third down. I thought he played well yesterday.
I know what he is saying Irish, Those were plays he made, but they in no way can be classified as game changing.
No one is worried about Connor Barwin. He’s okay for what he is asked to do, but I agree with Dag, we need an upgrade from him , because he is not a game changer.
The Eagles envision Marcus Smith at his position – he is his backup – and I think they know Barwin is serviceable, but not impactful.
Look for them to pursue getting Randy Gregory, and Benardrick McKinney in this year draft to solidify our LB core of the future with Kendricks, and finally get real Pass Rushers – something else Barwin isn’t very good at.
Graham changed the whole defense when he entered the game. He destroyed RBs, he destroyed the OT he was a force. He is better than Cole, he is better than Barwin. He plays the run and is your best pass rusher. Its that simple.
Yep, Graham played well too.
No he’s not. He had a good game. Let him build in it before we crown his ass. Cole was a force run and pass and he killed Henne more than once. His strip sack sealed it and he did it in the 4th playing double the snaps.
Graham’s been balling with the few opportunities they gave him. He had the same number of hits and hurries of the qb, and tackles in less than half the snaps.
He’s been balling, they’ve been holding him back.
Brandon Graham stinks, his play has held him back…..I haven’t seen any consistency from him to believe anything else.
He is a tweener whose role should be a back up.
I do hope he continues to play well this year, as he did on Sunday, so we can trade him, and get a decent draft pick in return for him…
Graham is in his final Year of his Rookie Deal
If Eagles are going to Trade him to get anything in Return
it has to be over the next 3 Weeks before the Trade Deadline passes
Word is in the Graham Camp that he is bolting once Free-Agency comes and is looking to go to a Team that runs a 4-3 to give him an opportunity to Start and to play in a System where he can make more plays and eventually get a bigger $$$..
This is Brandon Graham’s Final Season as an Eagle regardless of what he does on the field…
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Paulman kindly let me know your assesment of Davis as a d.c. I may have missed it, including his last 2 stints as d.c. Thanks Paulman
Hey Patrik,
My Assesment on DC Butch Davis is that his Schemes are a
Basic, Read & React type of Defense.. He does not Blitz often nor does he change looks very often… I don’t like his sit back and react passive posture and wish the Eagles were a more attacking and aggressive Defense and especially with their
Front 7.. I will be honest and think that with all the changes last year going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 may have had something to do with him being conservative and cautious approach, but now in 2014 with virtually the same starting line-up in Year 2 of his Defesen, I want to see more pressure, more exotic looks, blitzes, players moving around and just overall a more attacking style of Defense which I understand comes with some risks
but I just go nuts when Watching the Eagles Play a un-mobile or inexperienced QB’s and allow that QB to remain Comfortable and get into a Rhythm.. and going back to last Year, we saw lots of QB’s like Rivers,Alex Smith, Matt Cassell, Carson Palmer,Scott Tolzien and Kyle Orton just stand back and be comfortable in the Pocket… I believe you have to attack young & un-mobile QB’s early and often in games to get them uncomfortable and moving around where they are likely to make poor throws and decisions..
As far as Butch Davis prior 2 Stops before coming to the Eagles (Browns & Cardinals) I simply did not watch those Teams enough to see if there is a similar pattern to his Schemes and Philosophy, though I feel there probably is..
Overall I wished the Eagles had a more aggressive DC but I will give This Season to see the Improvements in Year #2 under Davis.. They have to insrease the Pressure for the Eagles go against a lot better QB’s this Season than last and they will have to bring their “A” Game and get more pressure and not be so Predictable to the Top QB’s
Eagles will face A Luck,Kapernick,Cam,Newton, C Palmer, R Wilson, A Rodgers as well as Eli,RG3 & Romo Twice so the Bar will have to be raised…
Graet!, I would trade him then…
Yo Cliff Kelvin Benjamin looking pretty good so far my friend.
“so far”….. is the operative word Biggie, but he absolutely had a big game.
If it makes you feel any better Biggie, I have him on my Fantasy team…..LOL!!!….What other receiver does Newton have??? So, I figured he has to do something fantasy wise…
Now me and Cliff don’t agree on much but you are 100% correct on Graham. This overvaluing after 1 game is nonsense. Let him have 5 sacks by mid season and lead in hurries etc. This role is perfect for him. He’s a tweener and not a full time player. More than like he will double d it this year, dominate then disappear depending on matchup.
GM….you gotta get playing time in order to establish any type of consistency…Graham was solid this past weekend…and in the minimal role he was used for last season, he was better than most give him credit for. He needs to get more opportunities.
BG balls when he gets in period, they believe the system is more important. He had only two less sacks than Barwin last year with only a quarter of the snaps. Pro Football Focus had both Curry and BG getting more pressure on a per snap basis than everyone on the team, but nah, the scheme is most important.
The same way it’s more important to keep our best corner in Brandon Boykin on the bench while the other dbs get roasted…yeah, it’s more important to have size on the outside than skill.
Brandon Boykins is STRICTLY, a slot Corner – He gets burned religiously when he plays on the outside. Stop it, that is his role in the NFL…PERIOD
And again I like Brandon Graham…if he can continue his play this year then they have an option to move on from Cole. He is more of a threat to Cole then he is Barwin. They are two different types of play and I dont see the comparison.
Just like when in Houston and set free to rush with JJ Watt Barwin had 11 sacks under Wade Phillips. Lets just calm down though.
What’s up Real!!
He was given an opportunity. After his sack barrage 2 years ago many felt he would lead the league in sack the following year – and he was penciled in to start – but lost his spot during training camp, because his pattern of inconsistent results revealed he just wasn’t that good…and I agree bruh….
He had a good game; He’s had good games before, and it’s meant nothing in terms of his overall season….I’ve seen this from Brandon Graham before…it never last.
He was never penciled in to start…they signed Barwin to start and made Cole the other starter…meanwhile our OLB’s had the worst pressure percentage as 3-4 linebackers. It wasn’t Cole or BG who Pro Football Focus named as the culprit,it was none other than Barwin.
He never plays on the outside, stop making things up.
ProFootball Focus also had the Redskins offensive line and the 3rd best line in the NFL. Their stats are highly subjective and IMO flat out wrong at times.
If you saw the Redskins play you saw that was a bullshit stat aided by inflated numbers.
In the 3-4 both OLBs are not pass rushers only. Barwin does more in run defense and pass coverage then Cole does and its not close.
As for Boykins he excels in the slot. He is able to make plays with his speed and hands. On the outside its an entirely different world and his play may not be as well.
Stop it with the scheme nonsense. Every god damn coordinator in the NFL has a scheme. Yall act like every 3-4 is the same etc. Brian Orakpo is a better pass rusher than Graham and he got 10 chances to rush in the Texans game because of matchups.
This dumbass Madden logic that you put every pass rusher on the field etc etc is nonsense. What is Grahams instincts on the run? How does he play screens. Can he diagnose the flat at all?
But hey just start him and let him rush the QB all day because thats all that matters.
So you watch and chart every play, and every player, and their responsibility on every play, like PFF does? Do you also get paid by NFL teams like they do? Sorry they have more credibility than you.
The Madden logic would be not getting your best players on the field. Pass rush is the first step to good pass defense, and not getting your best rushers on the field led to them being bottom 5 in pass defense, and bottom10 in points allowed. I’ll remain skeptical until they can manage a respectable ranking.
Pass rush in the 3-4 is not only at the OLB spot. JJ Watt is the most disruptive 3-4 pass rusher in the league and he plays DE. Most 3-4 defenses feature one outside pass rusher. In this defense right now its Trent Cole. If Trent Cole was playing doodoo brown then I would say put in Graham but he isnt. Both Cole and Graham on the field in base 3-4 would get exposed in the passing game because they are beyond limited in coverage.
If you think ProFootball Focus gets paid by the NFL your nuts. If you think they know what assignments certain players have your nuts. Hence some of their out of wack analysis on offensive play and pressure.
They are trying to do sabremetrics in football where its much more subjective than baseball where the numbers dont lie.
My buddy scouts lineman for Bleacher Report. He loves Lane Johnson out of the top 10 lineman drafted last year. Many on here think otherwise. I happen to agree with him. However he will be the first to tell that scouting lineman on both offense and defense is subjective since you dont know their assignment.
Let Graham breathe. If he continues his play it will be hard to keep him off the field. However more than likely he will be up and down all year dependant on matchups.
He was expected to start over an aging Trent Cole, and he couldn’t get it done..
Boykins has had games he has started, or stepped in, due to injuries to the starters…He can’t play outside …period
Izell, you don’t even recognize the difference between JJ Watt’s system and this one. You know why JJ Watt is blowing shit up? He plays in a one gap 3-4, not a two gap like the one the Eagles run. Ask JJ Watt to two gap and his numbers would drop, and they would be wasting his talent.
Like they waste the talent of Cox, Curry, and Graham in this two gap system.
Skayne, I understand the difference between a one gap and two gap…its the exact reason I dont go over the top on Fletcher Cox and pass rushing numbers. All I want from Cox is to be active and disrupt and he will be beyond valuable. Dont need 15 sacks from him in this scheme.
As for Graham I agree with Cliff…his competition is Cole not Barwin. Barwin is not asked to be a primary pass rusher that job is put on Cole and Davis ABSOLUTELY LOVES blitzing and rushing Kendricks, Who in IMO is a superior talent to Graham and I would want the defense schemed around him.
I said in beginning of the year the two most important players on the field defensively are Cox and Kendricks. That is what Bill Davis is scheming for with this defense. I think it is fairly obvious the player on defense that this defense is built around is Kendricks.
Brandon Graham and Vinny Curry played 35% of the plays as the 2nd teamers —
Agreed. His name is dirt based on when he was drafted and who we passed up (HE WHO RESIDES WITH THE SEAHAWKS). I blame the eagles for how this kid has been yo-yo’d and mismanaged. Linebacker, Dlineman, salary cap adviser, cheerleader ambassador, doorman; you name it.
Okay the NFC East is terrible
Looking to be worse than the AFC South.
Eagles might go 6-0 in the division.
Geez it’s bad.
I told you TSJ
The Titans,Texans at least have decent Defenses
And solid Running games… If Jake Locker actually stays healthy
The Titans may surprise.. Colts will not runaway this year
They just aren’t that good outside of QB Luck & WR’s
Lol looks like Eli is pulling well a Eli giants are terrible
I don’t know what’s worst Eli’s play or the continued excuses the national media makes for his piss poor play. They’re are going to run out of olineman and recvrs to blame soon. even with his bad start, I’d take Foles over him. eli is the worst qb in our weak division.
Like I said we win the division easily its real bad
Agreed.
Look, the NFC East isn’t at its strongest, but for how bad everyone thinks the the other teams are, we only had one victory in the East last year with the final score larger than a single possession.
The giants are the worst in the division and it’s cuz of Eli pman u were wrong about the giants
Hence the comment that the NFC East is terrible. Including the Eagles gotta keep it real Skayne.
Hahahaha The Eagles are terrible now?
Izell, terrible is maybe too strong like TS said the best of a bad bunch. I root hard for my birds but this defense is going to get torched by any good offense. I do think they beat the Colts but it may be a shootout.
I wasn’t leaving the Eagles out of that comment. lol. Eagles just the best of a bad bunch.
Boy oh boy after that first series I will bet anyone a c note that Carson Palmer throws a couple of picks tonight.
I also witnessed my sister get here ass handed to her by her boyfriend to the point where he threw her down a flight of hotel stairs and she was all bloodied. I at 14 years old beat the living shit out of him and threw him down a flight of stairs. I didn’t understand now but all I knew my sister was hurt and I got angry but soon after that she got mad at me and protected him and come to find out she hit him first and started the whole thing but hey a man hit a woman and that’s what we think is wrong. Double standard I don’t know it’s a fucked world
Wait.
So are the defenses that good or are these offenses that bad?
Last thought on this crap, how did releasing that tape help Ray and Janay Rice?
Was it suppose to help them Big I thought it was just to get ray rice released and make the nfl look dumb as shit
Agree.
I think it made her life even MORE difficult. TMZ is the fucking devil. But it’s not just about Rice. Her life and their child’s life is at play too.
Too have to relive that. To be FURTHER embarrassed months later. Just not cool.
Yea seriously she will always be known as the woman to get punched and then marry the asshole and people will never know the reasoning why she did what she had to do, and the kid will suffer to
I beleive this “Oh we have a deal on the drug testing” has a lil something to do with the NFLPA agreeing not to press the Rice issue.
It’s just too convenient. I know they’d been working on it, but they still had some good distance. Now it’s “Oh yeah we’re gonna vote on it” – yeah. okay.
CONSPIRACY I TELL YOU, nah for real that sounds about right