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  • Mark Sanchez three for 292 yards and two touchdowns in his final start of the year. What we saw today from the veteran was more of what we’ve seen all year. He can come in and facilitate the offense, but can’t be leaned on to make plays when the team needs it most. Sanchez threw another interception, and could have easily thrown at least two more had the Giants’ defenders made a play on the ball. 
  • LeSean McCoy finished his year with a 99-yard performance. What’s next for McCoy? The Eagles need cap room, and his contract is one that screams for a restructuring.
  • Jordan Matthews capped a solid rookie campaign with eight catches for 105 yards and a touchdown. Can’t wait to see what he can do in year two.
  • Chris Polk took seven carries for 38 yards and a touchdown that gave the Eagles the lead for good.
  • Nice to see Brent Celek find the endzone before the year was over. Celek’s a hard worker and a team player, it was fitting that he was given a chance to score before the year ended.
  • Jeremy Maclin logged just three catches for 49 yards in the finale. Its been a great year for Maclin, but defenses really limited the damage that he could do in the second half of year. Maclin had just two games in the final six where he had over 65 receiving yards, and scored just one touchdown in that stretch. I wouldn’t read too much into those numbers, however. I put a lot of that on the ineptitude of Sanchez before I put it on Maclin.
  • Jason Peters was beat all day by Jason Pierre-Paul.

Defense

  • How many interceptions did the Eagles drop today? I counted at least two by Malcolm Jenkins, and one by Cary Williams. 
  • Jenkins has dropped at least half a dozen picks in the second half of the season. The former Saint has been a good signing for this team, and he desperately needs some help in the defensive backfield, but he’s left some big plays on the field.
  • The dropped pick by Williams was an absolute joke. It doesn’t get any easier than that, and Mr. Big Mouth/Penalty Machine couldn’t get it done.
  • Jaylen Watkins saw a lot of snaps for the first time all year, and had some good and bad moments. Watkins was able to break up a couple of passes, including a long one intended for Odell Beckham. However, Watkins also fell and left Beckham wide open for his 63-yard touchdown.
  • Nate Allen came down with an interception to seal the game. May he never put on Eagles’ green again.
  • Bennie Logan has quietly been one of this team’s more pleasant surprises. The nose tackle spot has not been one of this team’s problems.

Special Teams

  • James Casey came up with a blocked punt that Trey Burton was able to return for a touchdown that really gave the Eagles the momentum for good in this one. Its a shame that such a marvelous special teams unit was wasted on this team. 

Final Thoughts

I’m so glad that Chip Kelly put a priority on winning this football game today.

I mean, who cares if LeSean McCoy narrowly avoided a serious knee injury at the end of the game, Chip’s got his second straight ten-win season!

And who cares about draft position? After all, its not like picking two-four spots apart makes much of difference. Its not like the Eagles missed out on guys like Haha Clinton-Dix and Brandin Cooks in last year’s draft by one or two picks, and had to make a panic move, trade back, and take a project that never saw the field in 2014. Nope, that certainly didn’t happen. Marcus Smith was great this year! Come on guys, Chip finished the year strong and got his second ten-win season!

With nothing to play for, Chip Kelly’s offense came back to life on their way to a win over the New York Giants. They sure came up painfully short against the Seattle Seahawks, Dallas Cowboys, and Washington Redskins when they had their season on the line, but Chip and company really set the tone for 2015 with a solid win over the G-Men, there are no meaningless games in this league, and as Chip made it a point to say after the game, its not easy to get ten wins in the National Football League, so hats off to Chip for getting it done, bravo coach!

If you can’t tell, this season has left me with an extremely bitter taste in my mouth.

The way things played out over this season brought back all kinds of unpleasant memories of the final years of the Reid era. There were a lot of mistakes, arrogance, and stubbornness that played a role in this team’s December implosion.

The job of the head coach is to put his team in the best possible position to win every week, and Kelly didn’t do that.

With a turnover-prone backup quarterback, Kelly leaned too heavily on the pass and didn’t use his running game nearly as much as he should have.

Several years ago, everyone and their brother knew that the Eagles were asking for trouble when they went into Green Bay with Greg Lewis as their primary punt returner. Lewis muffed multiple punts, and would turn out to be the difference in the game that the Eagles lost. This year, everyone and their brother knew that Bradley Fletcher needed to be benched after that Dallas game. Kelly and Billy Davis wouldn’t even consider a change, and Fletcher was burnt in several key spots by DeSean Jackson last week, playing a critical role in an Eagles loss.

During the final years of the Reid era, we picked up high draft picks that sat on the bench and gave the team nothing. This year we got Marcus Smith. But hey, maybe Jeffrey Lurie will absolve Howie Roseman and Kelly of any and all responsibility of the pick. Joe Banner hasn’t been around for a couple years, but maybe we can pin the blame on DeSean Jackson for the Smith pick.

In 2011, Reid put a priority on winning the final four meaningless games of the season to pad the team’s record and “finish strong”. We saw Kelly do the same thing today.

This team finishes 10-6, but I don’t believe they’re nearly as good as that record suggests.

The reality is that this team got off to 3-0 start by the skin of their teeth. A bounce or two the other way, and they could have easily been 1-2. If this team didn’t live off of special teams and defensive touchdowns in the first two months of the year, we could be looking at a radically different picture right now.

The Eagles played a much more difficult schedule this year than they did in 2013. I think this club is much closer to 8-8 or even 7-9 than they are 10-6.

There’s much work to be done in the off-season, and Kelly and the front office better not fool themselves into thinking they’re better than they actually are.

Denny Basens

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andrew p
andrew p
December 28, 2014 8:54 pm

Laurie, davis n chip all said they know where they need to upgrade, that’s encouragimg considering I never heard that before, like i said in the other post, that tells me their going to spend big in free agency, I say that cause they don’t draft for need, if they claim they need to address certain areas then they have to do that in FA. I didn’t like hearing Laurie giving Howie an endorsement, I think something is going to happen if Gamble leaves, that’s Chips guy, Laurie was asked about the rift between Howie n chip n he didn’t deny their was one, all he said was he hopes they can work together, that’s not gonna work, if Gamble leaves expect Chip to follow within a season or two.

mhenski
mhenski
December 28, 2014 9:11 pm

“The Eagles need cap room, and his contract is one that screams for a restructuring.”

Cap room is not an issue with the Eagles my friend. Especially after cary Williams is cut

mhenski
mhenski
December 28, 2014 9:24 pm

I for one am happy as fuck we didn’t lay down today against a division rival. Fuck laying down , nobody does that shit and no players want to. Bottom line is 10-6 is a very good record, we could’ve been better but who cares we weren’t winning a super bowl with Nate allen, Cary sconce Williams and Bradley shouldn’t be in the nfl fletcher

Fuck haha Clinton Dix and fuck that smurf cooks. Haha may be good but cooks isn’t shit and never will be. cooks wasn’t that good at all with Brees and its Brees who makes everyone look better. Saw haha get burned way more than make plays and I believe he got benched multiple times this year

Last give smith a pass – he may be good he may be great or he may be a bust. Our DC has 0 clue how to coach a d and identify talent smith could be a beast for all we know. He probably had a better year than the #4 pick dion Jordan did last year who the entire city was begging for us to take…

U gotta do better than this Denny

mhenski
mhenski
December 28, 2014 9:29 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Remember when the city was calling cox a bust???

mhenski
mhenski
December 28, 2014 9:44 pm
Reply to  Denny Basens

Flags for sure about smith no doubt that. But I have 0 confidence bill Davis has any clue about talent and scheme

mhenski
mhenski
December 28, 2014 9:50 pm
Reply to  mhenski

How many snaps did it take for Davis to bench Bradley ??? 600+ snaps????

And his injury designation today was bullshit/fake… He got a healthy deactivation today

E-money
E-money
December 28, 2014 10:01 pm
Reply to  mhenski

I can’t remember such an empty 10-6 as this one. Ray Rhodes went 10-6 his first 2 years, but they made the playoffs. This 10-6 feels more like Kotite’s last season here. As much as losing to the Saints last year in the playoffs hurt, at least we felt like we were moving in a great direction. Now, I have no idea what’s next. Who is our QB? How long will Chip stick around? Has the league figured out the play calling? Does our DC know what he is doing?

mhenski
mhenski
December 28, 2014 10:19 pm
Reply to  Denny Basens

That Dallas smashing on thanksgiving was fucking nice!!!! Everything else from there was shit. But what do u expect with Sanchez?????

mhenski
mhenski
December 28, 2014 9:26 pm

I might add I’m a little sad Nate Allen is leaving as I wanna see his sister again. Chick should be a super model. Hallie berry looks …

andrew p
andrew p
December 28, 2014 10:21 pm

I know one thing, it won’t matter what corners we pick up if we keep our secondary coach, the techniques he taught our guys on when to go for the ball was ridiculous.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
December 28, 2014 10:37 pm
Reply to  andrew p

True indeed. To coach players not to look back for the ball is shocking. How can the HC and DC agree with this practice.

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 28, 2014 10:46 pm

Williams was asked to watch beckham all day ,but told coach he was winded ….thank The Lord above this clown “I don’t care if I come back or not” his last gesture to philly…can you be more of a giant dickhead?

CaliBoy
CaliBoy
December 28, 2014 11:58 pm

So much negativity. What happened to all of the “let’s give Chip 3 years, it’s a rebuilding time…”. Ridiculous some of the stuff that is posted here. Our #1 MIGHT be a bust, but our #2 Williams is certainly not. And, we can now get rid of Cooper. The draft always has issues, if it didn’t we’d have twice as many teams! We have a 3-headed running monster in Sproles, Polk and Shady. Mac had a great year, when all I heard early on was that he is heading down the gimp aisle. DeJean, may be a mistake, but he’s a cancer, and it’s obvious. How ’bout giving Chip a bit more credit in only his SECOND year. Quite possibly a few of mistakes are on him, but he does learn from them and still has one of the brightest minds in football. It’s obvious when many teams are copying his offensive strategy. Yea, we won a few we possibly should/could have lost, but we also lost a few we should/could have won – let’s not forget missed FG’s, injured starting QB, injured Defensive Captain. We are on the cusp, I feel very positive we WILL fix the secondary, and maybe a LB or two, plus a healthy QB for 2015. Everything else is either great, excellent or serviceable. MOST teams in the NFL wish they had our problems!

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 12:00 am

Can we sign Rex Ryan to the largest d coordinator deal in nfl history?????

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 29, 2014 12:41 am

hey guys!

Lurie……

A year later on the final day of the season, a 34-26 win over the Giants Lurie sounded much different when asked about Foles.

“We didn’t go from Peyton to Luck, let’s put it that way,” Lurie said in the visiting locker room at MetLife Stadium, a reference to the Eagles’ not yet finding an heir apparent to five-time Pro Bowler Donovan McNabb.

It was not a resounding vote of confidence in the 25-year-old Foles.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
December 29, 2014 1:27 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

very revealing!

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 1:36 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Yup totally revealing Eagles have a trade in the works to get Arron Rodgers !!!!

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 29, 2014 12:43 am

More….

Asked if he believes the Eagles have the quarterback on the roster now who can take the team to the Super Bowl, Lurie said:

“It remains to be seen. It’s very hard to answer that until you accomplish that. You can point to people that have accomplished it, you know, Aaron (Rodgers) and Tom (Brady) and Peyton (Manning) and Drew (Brees) and those guys, and that’s the elite of the NFL, and until you accomplish that you can’t say you have it.

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 29, 2014 12:45 am

The best part!

Lurie was asked how a team lands an elite quarterback capable of leading a Super Bowl run if they don’t draft high in the first round.

“It’s not easy,” he said. “You’ve got to really catch a break. You’ve got to find the players that are undervalued. That’s what happens, you know?

“Obviously with Aaron, Green Bay, they got an undervalued player at [No. 24]. That has to happen for a franchise to have that type of situation.”

Essope
Essope
December 29, 2014 1:20 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

Sounds like he’s alluding to Foles in that last quote. 3rd round pick. You don’t value him that highly… Fits perfectly!

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 29, 2014 1:30 am
Reply to  Essope

you’ll see what he’s saying.

The Eagles will draft Foles replacement this draft and he will have speed, athleticism and a serious strong arm.

I’m taking bets.

Essope
Essope
December 29, 2014 1:55 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

I just feel that we have greater needs than at QB right now. Unless you want to shake it all up again and wait a few more years til this new guy you have in mind gets up to speed with things. I am for drafting a QB but not before we address other needs, mostly defensively.

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 8:57 am
Reply to  Essope

Bet it ??? So what you could welch out at the end like you did with our foles getting benched bet?

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 29, 2014 10:16 am
Reply to  mhenski

??

Did Foles come back and start?

Did Sanchez go to the playoffs?

What the hell are you talking about?

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 10:20 am
Reply to  SONGSRME2

im pretty sure you bet me that foles would be benched for sanchez for performance only. you said if he wasnt benched this year you were out and if he was i was out…

it will take a while but ill find the bet details

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 29, 2014 1:40 am

I would love for the Cowboys to win it all this year so the Eagles fans can wake the hell up.

I said when Cowboys were a laughingstock that they would eventually build from nothing and win it all before the eagles get one and people here laughed.

Well, don’t look now.

They build from nothing and kick our ass out the playoffs have a team that can beat the Seahawks.

Again….

Champions are never satisfied with a consolation prize.

Eagles organization brags in mediocrity.

CULTURE

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 10:18 am

all i hear is marcus smith is a bust and all i see is everyone crying about him and saying the eagles cant draft….

lets look at all the potential busts from this years first round

3 pick – blake bortlers
6 pick *- jake matthews
8 pick – justin gilbert
10 pick – eric ebron
11 pick taylor lewan
14 pick – kyle fuller
15 pick – ryan shazier
18pick calvin pryor
22 pick john manziel
23 pick dee ford
24 pick darqueze denard
26 pick marcus smith

thats 12 of 26 that an argument could be made are busts… and maybe there are more that i dont know about it. is verret a player? james juwauN?

if those 2 stink thats 14 of 26…

i know everyone thinks brandon cooks is awesome but he isnt… he will be a marginal player and matthews will have a better career…

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 29, 2014 10:51 am
Reply to  mhenski

The draft is a crap shoot… That is why all the rants, bickering and fury whining about draft picks I’d comical. There were people on here yesterday actually bitching about the win because we now draft 20 instead of 17… Like there is a difference!

zilents44
zilents44
December 29, 2014 10:54 am
Reply to  haveacigar

I agree with u hac after the top 5 picks its really a crapshoot

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 29, 2014 11:03 am
Reply to  zilents44

Hmmm after the top five? Meet j. Russell, v. Young, sanchez was 6… It is all a crap shoot… Top five offers a better percentage… The nfl as a brand has driven the hype up for the draft… The draft is now a top rated tv show… It’s all a lot of hype about nothing

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 10:19 am

Songs ..it’s a new year ,very soon ,make a resolution..STOP..with the foles Pom Pom rants..it’s maddening…

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 10:21 am

And lastly why am I not surprised you songs want for Dallas (in our division) to win it all? You are mad …

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 29, 2014 10:37 am

Look at the reason for the Jets GM dismissal.

Idzik did a fine job cleaning up the salary cap mess he inherited from former G.M. Mike Tannenbaum, but he failed to address major needs at cornerback and wide receiver while sitting on ample cap space.

This dude would have received a bonus along with a new 10 year deal in Philadelphia.

A guy who goes into the season with ample cash to spend ignoring glaring holes on the football team?

What owner would fire that guy who allow that cash to roll over into coffers?

He would get the Maxwell award in Philly!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
December 29, 2014 2:40 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

the Jets GM John Idzik was fired for drafting Geno Smith and signing Mike Vick at the QB position. The exact same 2 player you endorsed.

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 10:48 am

Songs …. Record does matter ..if you have a vision towards needed resigning $$ ..on in house assets …you are devoid of any fiscal sense ..why am I not surprised

Everz11
Everz11
December 29, 2014 10:56 am

Songs, the question remains, who is this available mystery QB that is on par with Rodgers, Brady or Manning? Is he a free agent? In the draft? Is he in the Canadian or Arena League? Why is he still undiscovered, if he possesses so much ability. Remember, we don’t need a straight running QB, the whole pure read option, college offense ship has sailed. Defenses caught up to the R/O scheme and the QB’s that had one, maybe two successful years are now exposed as inadequate when forced to play from the pocket, or too banged-up to run anymore. Even the next wave of R/O QB’s showed very poorly when they played this season (think Manziel). Wilson (whom you always refer to and has been wildy successful) is an outlier. In addition to being a smart, heady and athletic QB- he throws more than he runs and is able to rely on a supremely physical RB in Lynch and the best D in all of football two years running. Listen, Nick Foles is not my son, brother or father, so I have no vested interest whether he starts or not, but as an Eagles fan, I think of first building a nasty defense (of which we already have the front 7 in tact) and riding with Foles. The thinking here is that he is neither as good as 27-2, nor is he as bad as he looked at times this year before his injury and having played behind a banged up O line. The O-line is not an excuse, its a fact. Mccoy had a poor year as well behind the same slop on the line. The real Foles is likely somewhere in the middle and with a nasty defense, I believe the birds can win it all. To continue to have a revolving door at QB in hopes that a HOFer drops in you lap (at pick 20) and ignore the other holes on this team is crazy. It’s perpetually being in rebuild mode until you uncover a once in a generation talent. I think the odds are better that the birds build a dominant defense before a HOF QB appears on the roster. Foles has a career winning record and 2-1 td/int ratio in his young career. If nothing else he is leader and players are quoted on the record as believing in him and prefering to catch the ball he throws. Have some patience.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
December 29, 2014 12:46 pm
Reply to  Everz11

Everz11..we are not talking about getting a QB on par with Rodgers, Brady, or Manning. We just need an upgrade from Foles/Sanchez who led the league in turnovers.
You cant ride with an injury-prone, QB who does have mobility, an average arm and struggles to read defenses.
If we want to win we need to upgrade…that does not mean getting Brady…it means getting someone better than Foles…

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 12:54 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

who is that you dumb shit? who are you going to get better than nick foles?????/

your prior answers were manziel, taj boyd, and mark sanchez.

who is your choice this offseason?

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 11:05 am

SONGSRME2
September 22, 2014 – 7:23 am

Nick Foles showed me something I never thought I would see with him at QB.

GUTS!!!!!

I’m Foles worse critic on here and will be honest in what I see.

Mike Vick with all his athletic ability would have not made it out of that game. A quarterback must stay on the field to win and it’s evident Foles is resilient.

Now, he still leaves too many wide open TD’s on the field, now if he can hit those wide open TD’s there will be no argument him being titled “the franchise QB”.

Yes, I said it.

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 29, 2014 11:10 am
Reply to  mhenski

Oops

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 29, 2014 11:13 am
Reply to  haveacigar

LOL

Bet he regrets that one.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
December 29, 2014 11:13 am

Again Songs with no understanding of the difference between the salary cap and real wages paid to players.

I am no Lurie apologist, but this “he’s cheap – hoarding $$” business is bullshit.

Eagles have been in the top 10 in payroll to players ever single year since he has been the owner.

That they have pretend “cap” money is just because they have an intelligent accounting team who know how to manipulate that fake $.

The $20 million in “space” is an illusion. It is an accounting $ only.

Lurie does not “save” nor “bank” it nor let it “roll into his coffers”….because it IS NOT REAL $$.

F-ing idiot.

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 11:19 am

This foles ad-nauseam by song/Kool..we are now dissecting Jeffrey luries blabber as if that matters…we are reading between the lines on sound bites..here’s a fact re foles….he’s signed and allows the opportunity for 3/4 million bucks to create a competition..that’s it …the defensive backfield,was something Jeff Lurie pointed fingers at …he also addressed red zone inadequacies ,and the obvious 600 pound elephant Turnovers..we have no idea ,what Foles sitting and watching a half a season did for his learning curve?Jeff did make mention of 12-4 (foles record as a starter under chip) ..it’s blabber ..stop trying to uncover CSI clues to give you the outcome you covet…

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 11:19 am

SONGSRME2
October 1, 2014 – 11:00 am

I don’t care if we have a black mobile QB.

So, don’t go there.

Give me a damn Caucasian from the Caucasus with mobility and a strong arm and I’m all in with him.

Copy and paste that so that’s not used as an diversion going forward.

Getting back to the original point.

Do you want to make a bet that Foles don’t get yanked before the season is done?

If Foles make through the season as the starter I’ll never post here again.

Do you or anyone here want to take me up on this and honor the bet non-like Vinnie who whiffed after he lost?

mhenski
October 1, 2014 – 11:37 am

SONGS I WILL TAKE YOU UP UP THE BET AND TAKE FOLES NOT GETTING YANKED THIS YEAR AS LONG AS WHEN YOU LEAVE U TAKE UR KOOLBREEZE ALIAS WITH YOU.

THE BET WOULD BE I TAKE FOLES IS NEVER BENCHED FOR A START…

YOUR CALL
SONGSRME2
October 1, 2014 – 12:33 pm

BET!!!

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
December 29, 2014 12:32 pm
Reply to  mhenski

he didn’t get yanked fool!

He got injured before the yank came.

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 12:39 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

thats your problem. you bet he would be benched and you lost. i clearly stated below that i got no benching excluding injuries where you bet he gets benched and thats it.

you lost the bet

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
December 29, 2014 1:08 pm
Reply to  SONGSRME2

If Vinnie is still here there there is no need for you to go anywhere for what amounts to a technicality.

Ignore him. He didn’t try and run Vinnie off the board and Vinnie actually lost his bet.

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 1:34 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

A bet is a bet between 2 parties. I wasn’t on this site when Vinnie bet whatever he bet and that had nothing to do with me or you so why don’t you just shut the fuck about it ?

And there are no technicalities on a bet it’s either a win or a loss. Clearly I stated injuries would not count as a benching and he agreed to those terms. He could’ve said the bet would be void if he had a season ending injury if he wanted to but didn’t. That’s on him.

I do love how your a scum bag though and condoning people from not paying their debts/bets up.

I can see it now if ts was a gambler. “Sorry bookie but I’m not paying because my cousins cousins neighbor didn’t pay this bookie that you don’t know. “.

Classless piece of shit with no integrity

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 29, 2014 6:27 pm
Reply to  mhenski

You were on this site when Vinnie made the bet it was last year between him and real talk. Please with that bs.

mhenski
mhenski
December 30, 2014 9:52 am
Reply to  Biglion821

that bet wasnt last year. no way. and if it was my mistake i guess i just missed. that shit got nothing to do with anyone but real and vinnie, so why dont you stop being a rubberneck and mind your own business

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 31, 2014 2:21 am
Reply to  mhenski

You are flat out wrong stop acting like a little bitch, don’t you have some people to stalk or posts to spellcheck? So is Songs and kool the same people?

mhenski
mhenski
December 31, 2014 10:23 am
Reply to  mhenski

Very emotional Biglion, I am here for you. It is ok to cry, let it out.

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 11:21 am

mhenski
October 1, 2014 – 3:00 pm

as indicated when i said

THE BET WOULD BE I TAKE FOLES IS NEVER BENCHED FOR A START…

that would not count nor would injury. if he is benched and doesnt start b/c of a benching i lose otherwise i win and songs and his alias koolbreez is gone

SONGSRME2
October 1, 2014 – 6:34 pm

bet

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 11:26 am
Reply to  mhenski

title of the article where it was agreed

“Malcolm Jenkins Shows Roseman’s Improvement As GM”
Tuesday, September 30th, 2014

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
December 29, 2014 8:47 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Im not apart of any bet you asswipe

So leave me out

Fool

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 11:27 am

YOU LOST NOW LEAVE

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 11:28 am

Song it’s fiscal insanity to start lauding a qb who you already have under contract ,coming off an injury..in so many,ways,it’s a perfect scenario,for the organization..resign studs on defense…cut bait with garbage …adress by spending big on creating a solid defense front and back..special teams already fixed,and offensively put another wide out opposite Maclin(who we all agree ) is a must sign..the 3rd year of chip ,will bear witness to his abilities as a coach to add pieces and empower his defense ….the glass is half full..

paulman
paulman
December 29, 2014 11:54 am
Reply to  deserteagle

The biggest thing that concerns me about this Chip Kelky WR
Is his lack of insight on the Defensive side of the ball and putting all his trust and the future success in mediocre DC Billy Davis
The Eagles QB situation is not what’s holding this Team
Back, it’s the talent Level and Schemes of this Defense and as I sit here
Dec 29th, 2014, I have little confidence that Billy Davis is going to get this Defense into the Top Half of the NFL let alone a Championship Level
Defense which is reminiscent of AR’s Final Years post Jimmy Johnson’s death..
The QB & Offense are not holding this Franchise back,
It’s the Defense,Defense,Defense!!!
This needs to be addressed this Off-Season
Or Kelly’s Tenure won’t last beyond his 5 Year Contract

paulman
paulman
December 29, 2014 12:08 pm
Reply to  paulman

Meant to say in the “Chip Kelly ERA”

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
December 29, 2014 12:24 pm

Ya’ll still arguing about Foles and Sanchez?

Only on GCobb.

Foles may and I stress the MAY start next year by default. But he’s not getting another contract to stay here. If they can fidn a guy they are happy with this offense then Foles will be the backup next year.

It’s not really anymore complicated than that.

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 12:41 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

yep thats exactly right

unless of course we decide to pick a superstar qb off the magic superstar qb tree

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
December 29, 2014 12:28 pm

I don’t think Foles is going to have the job handed over to him next year, as he did this year, but I don’t think they will be moving up in the draft to take a QB.

I see the Eagles making Foles compete for the job again next year – with whoever….

By the way – you boys forgot to congratulate me for winning the GCobb fantasy football league.

Denny, send the check to Songs as a going away present. Lol

paulman
paulman
December 29, 2014 1:36 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Good Job Irish on the FF League..
I was middle on the Pack and never had
Any steady QB Play all Year long..
I missed the Draft and got all RB/WR with
No QB/TE or Defenses and struggle all Season
Just to compete.. I did pick up a few Pkayers who shined
RB Forsett & CJ Anderson but my QB’s
Were Alex Smith & RG3, then I got Kyke Orton? Derek Carr,
Cousins, Glennon & Even Sanchez..
Ha .. There’s always next Year ..

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
December 29, 2014 2:57 pm
Reply to  paulman

I lost the first 3 games, then tied the 4th game, then I won 11 weeks in a row. Strangest season I ever had in fantasy sports.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
December 29, 2014 2:52 pm

8 head coaching hires in 2013 including Chip Kelly in the NFL.
Browns Rob Chudzinski and Bears Marc Trestman have been terminated so far.
Mike McCoy ( Chargers), Andy Reid ( Chiefs) Chip Kelly made playoffs last season but all 3 missed playoffs in 2014. Bruce Arians made playoffs this season but his team is sinking like an anchor entering playoffs. Doug Marone and Gus Bradley still have yet to make the playoffs.

Everz11
Everz11
December 29, 2014 3:02 pm

Songs my Brady, Manning, rodgers scenario was because that was who you said Laurie was speaking about in his post season comments and implying that Laurie didnt endorse Foles going forward because he wasn’t one of those HOF QB’s. My point is, those types of QB’s are one every 10 years and often luck factors into it getting one. Why stay in a perpetual rebuild mode, hoping the next guy is the “one” until he isn’t Rodgers, or Brady or Manning and clamor for another QB, when all the while it doesn’t matter who the QB is when your secondary cant cover me. You speak of a QB better than Foles, but who is that guy? All the one’s you’ve clamored for on this blog are horrendous and thankfully we didnt get them in lieu of Foles or we’d be in reverse going into year three.

yojoe
yojoe
December 29, 2014 3:08 pm

Denny, you know as this year ends so disappointingly, I wonder if Kelly isn’t the issue… Could he be the offensive version of Rex Ryan who only really cares about the offensive side of the ball??? They needed defensive help last year too and we failed at accomplishing true repair… I really could see this guy going receiver, RB, QB in the draft / free agency before D help… Yeah maybe he’ll grab 1 or 2 D players but I really do wonder… Another thing… Did KELLY screw FOLES up this year? I thought I heard or read that they wanted Foles to take MORE CHANCES so this year comes along and he’s throwing bad balls??? DAMN, go back to who he was last year… He lost a tough coach or something? Damn go get another tough guy to push / develop him… Point is… Could it be Kelly??? Rhu-Rho…

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 3:27 pm

thanks to Dcars free agency wish list i found the solution to the offense

MIKE IUPATI!!!!!!!!!!!!

LT Peters
LG Mathis
C Kelce
RG Iupati
RT Lane

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 3:29 pm
Reply to  mhenski

thats instant run game improvement and instant passing game improvement!!!!!!!!

GET IUPATI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i have no answers on D

mhenski
mhenski
December 29, 2014 8:19 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Build the wall!!!!!!

DCar
DCar
December 30, 2014 12:02 am
Reply to  mhenski

mh, Iupati has to stay healthy though. He’s been banged up the last 2 years, but he is a beast!

paulman
paulman
December 29, 2014 5:31 pm

I likes Iupati big tine out of College but with a broken tubular last year and knee injuries/issues this year I am not very high on him moving forward
And would be a risk to Sign for big $$$ in my opinion..
I like Guards James Carpenter of Seattle
Who played under the Eagles OL Coach while at Alabama
And Guard/Tackle Clint Boling of the Bengals

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 7:12 pm

Pman I’m in agreement ..bill Davis is not the championship calibre DC…so who’s next is the question?

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 29, 2014 7:36 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

I call bullshit… As a DC you play who your bosses draft, sign etc…
I thought he did a nice job considering the slop that is fletcher and Allen…
‘A championship caliber DC’ what the F does that mean? As of right now he hasn’t won a championship so of course not… Was Jim Johnson? It is total bullshit to speak in absolutes like that. I would say 30 of 32 nfl head coaches are championship caliber if things break their way, if a player or two bust out as phenoms. Belicheat was a dismal failure, john harbaugh a special teams coach… It takes lightning in a bottle… F.ing Todd Bowles was brutal in philly and now he is the best thing since sliced bread… You cannot speak in absolutes in this business

DCar
DCar
December 30, 2014 12:05 am
Reply to  haveacigar

Really, havenoclue, so why, his entire career, has not one of his defenses been ranked higher than in the 20’s???? You are the one talking nonsense, & BS! Keep it zipped, front office lackey! Every time you speak, you expose your stupidity even more. You try to irrationally rip everyone else, & you are CLUELESS!!!!!

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 30, 2014 9:55 am
Reply to  DCar

Jim Johnson was 17, 20, 25 in points allowed as a d coord with the colts before taking over the eagles… I know those pesky facts always seem to get in the way

DCar
DCar
December 30, 2014 11:54 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

What pesky facts, the one’s you make up in your know nothing, irrational brain?? Who the fuck cares what JJ did, prior to the Birds? We’re talking about Davis assclown! And in case you haven’t noticed, he’s been here 2 years now, rated at the bottom of the league. 2 YEARS AT THE BOTTOM! So that’s even worse than before he came here! What JJ did, & what Davis, did, & has done, is completely irrelevant, you imbecile! Davis has never been rated above the mid 20’s before coming here, & has been rated close to the worse in the NFL, for 2 years in a row now! Don’t let those “PESKY” facts, get in the way, you useless f^#@!

DCar
DCar
December 31, 2014 12:09 am
Reply to  haveacigar

2013-
Rated 29th in total DF.
Rated 29th in yards.
Rated 14th in most points allowed.

2014-
Rated 28th in total DF.
Rated 28th in yards.
Rated tied for 9th most points allowed!

Yeah those pesky facts, sure are a BITCH, aren’t they dumb f^#@?!?!?

gmcliff
gmcliff
December 31, 2014 12:59 am
Reply to  DCar

LOL!!!

paulman
paulman
December 30, 2014 12:08 am
Reply to  deserteagle

A couple on my Short List I think could be good fits and have experience in the “3-4” Scheme ‘are the Following

1) Vic Fangio – DC of 49ers (who is still under Contract
With 49ers thru 2015 Season as entire Staff is
Only Harbaugh has left so far..
2) Eric Mangini – TE Coach of 49ers but former DC
Of Patriots,Jets & Browns
3) Ken Norton Jr – LB Coach of Seattle
4) Mike Trgovac – DL Coach of Packers
5) Ed Donatell – Secondary Coach still under Contract
With the 49ers

With Eagles having DL Coach Jerry Azz
I believe a DC with more Secondary Experience is Pass Coverage Schemes
And Teach would be a good fit with Jerry Azz

Eagles DC Billy Davis was previously a LB’s
Position Coachvwgich is where is specialty lies..
Eagles Jerry Azz has done a nice Job up front
And I would like to see a Coach who specializes with the back end to complement the front 7

gmcliff
gmcliff
December 31, 2014 1:03 am
Reply to  paulman

Love Ken Norton Paul on your list.

But Chip is too prideful, and stubborn to make that necessary change.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
December 31, 2014 1:11 am
Reply to  gmcliff

No doubt!

jakedog
jakedog
December 29, 2014 7:36 pm

Listen to the foles’ press conference

He went first

He was asked by some reporter that never wore a sweaty jock strap, like songs, koolbreeze and Ts

Why he thinks he will be the starter next year without the endorsement of his coach, owner. His response is classic and bitch slaps the reporter and these race baiters

The other thing of note was how tactfully he answered the question whether the eagles would have made the playoffs had he been the qb the entire season

Again he silenced the reporters eith his brains and tact

Do not be fooled by the race baiters

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
December 29, 2014 8:23 pm

KOOLBREEZE…READ WHAT JOHNNY MANZIEL’S COACH THINKS OF HIS BEHAVIOR:

Browns coach Mike Pettine didn’t put Manziel’s transgression in the same category as the actions of Gordon and Justin Gilbert (who was deactivated Sunday after showing up late for a team meeting), but he said that quarterbacks are seen differently.

“I’m not writing off his behavior as acceptable — it is unacceptable,” Pettine said. “Especially, we said that we hold the quarterback to a higher standard than everybody else. That just comes with the territory, the position. Has his behavior been disappointing? Absolutely.

“We’re going to take our time here. We’re going to step away from the emotion of it all, get some time off, come back. We’ll have all the players written up and evaluated, and in a much less emotional environment, evaluate the roster, talk about each position, what changes need to be made.”

It’s pretty much official: Johnny Manziel’s first season in the NFL is a dumpster fire. Being a first-round pick affords additional rope, but Jimmy Haslam’s comments Sunday tell us the organization is extremely displeased with the behavior of some of their highest-profile players and could be set to take drastic measures.

If Manziel doesn’t shape up, his Browns career could be over in a blink.

This is not just about culture. His behavior is directly interfering with his performance…secondly the Browns brand. You think Chip would stand for this? Manziel’s horrific play only makes it worse!!! Manziel has “it” though huh?…LOL.
Read what Skip Bayless said about Manziel today. Bayless has been an ardent supporter of Manziel, even he has seen enough of this clown bust of a prospect!!!

jakedog
jakedog
December 29, 2014 8:38 pm

Great stuff eagles, exposing another fraud,

Biglion821
Biglion821
December 29, 2014 8:52 pm

Johnny Manziel is a non talented idiot ass rich kid who wouldn’t know hard work was if it slapped him in the face.

jakedog
jakedog
December 29, 2014 9:19 pm

Haha big, in my day we scrimmage against a wide out we thought was good., very good, he turned to be a hall of famer, Andre Reed

recently, He called Johnny Manziel, not Johnny football, but “Johnny rookie bitch”, he took a lot of heat for that but he’s dead on

Andre Reed, great athlete, I played college football with his high school teammates, one tough sob

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 9:28 pm

Have a cigar ..firstly I’ve had close exposure to bill Davis being here in Az during his time here ..I’ll explain why I said what I said ,and measure my response..there is no disagreements between you and I ,that the players make the coach…I really believe his lack of recognition to the obvious mismatch ,singling up fletcher firstly against Green Bay on Jordan ,then Dezz game 2 ,desean ,and his defense of his moves ,showed me that he was guilty of the exact same stubbornness as a cardinal…also his desire not to mess with his nickel and dime packages ,even though a guy like Boykin might have been a better fit outside ,given the chance …I know size matters…Carroll wasn’t the answer yesterday ,I get that ,but the field seemed a little more spread out ,when they weren’t attacking fletcher constantly…what make a championship DC ? A top ten ranking ..he’s never sniffed one across the board ..points allowed and x plays are his weakness..they were in AZ and they are in philly…I’ll give him credit for fixing the front 7 ,but yesterday they had zero sacks vs eli…I usually allow a coach 3 or 4 drafts before evaluating them ,however to me bill Davis is mediocre …at best …now why don’t you try to convince me ,he did a good job..I’m willing to listen

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 29, 2014 9:34 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

He has to run all personel changes past chip. I don’t know if he is good, after watching Carroll it is 100% clear his options were limited.
Should he have played a safety over the top, maybe… What hole would that have created?
I think he has done great with the front 7… I know Bowles was terrible here and now a sexy name… The difference is fleeting

Stevo
Stevo
December 29, 2014 9:46 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Great points Desert. It’s nice to see some smart on this site for once. I’ll take a jab at your q…

Davis stays because… He has not only made the front 7 mean for the first time in a billion games… He also did so with a bunch of guys he didn’t order. We have to let it play out. We have to give him time. If they actually spend on some Cbs and he still looks like this… Then it’s time to give him the boot. 1 more year. Graham has improved. Cox looks great. Move on from Allen and Fletch. Sign 2cbs.. Draft like 7 and see what we get. 1 more year.

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 29, 2014 9:38 pm

You allow 3-4 drafts? In two drafts since Davis has been here they had one high pick for D and he didn’t get on field…

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 9:48 pm

Have a cigar ..it’s the coaches job to put the guys he does have to succeed…he’s not blameless for singling up week after week ..desean called them (eagle dee) arrogant ….they do what they do …that’s why he was run out of the desert..he was stubborn ..bullheaded and his yds allowed were 30th ..I think this year we the eagles were in the high 20s …the x plays of 40 yds or more ,we led the league …there is no greater indictment than stats …you may feel he deserves some slack ..you can’t tell me he didn’t have his fingerprints on the crime scene of over the top touchdowns that along with turnovers were our downfall this season..he never made an adjustment until .. Desean danced on our corpse ..it embarrassed the whole organization…please don’t try to tell me he will change ..he’s like sanchez ..his stat line is abysmal

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 29, 2014 9:58 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

You are worried about what a loud mouth WR says? Talk about thin skin. Desean had an ax to grind… He wasn’t much in game one… Embarrassed the whole organization? Are you on crack? A stupid WR embarrassed a billion dollar brand? Do you live in the real world… Desean is insignificant… Team finished what 5-11 or something? They were in shambles, put together a good game while they were going down in flames.. So the F what ? Why would anyone care what he says?
Never made an adjustment? I would contend you can only see the most obvious adjustments and that the dozens of adjustments that are made by every team every Sunday are too subtle for you to recognize

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 9:53 pm

Stevo…I can’t say I’m not usually in agreement ..patience is a virtue..but look up this guys stat lines everywhere he has been ..he’s a bottom feeder..he’s had more jobs and more teams under some really good coaches ..but he always does one thing consistent..he under..performs and he’s terminated …I’d rather for the sake of continuity be patient ..but not here ..not with this guy

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 29, 2014 10:02 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

I’m not trying to defend the guy but he had no secondary… People were actually on here saying ‘why didn’t he bench fletch for Carroll ‘ ? Yikes Carroll blows! He is not a corner… Not close… But people want change for the sake of change. Give the guy credit for putting together a decent front fitting square pegs in round holes… Also what talent did they draft to improve the d?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
December 29, 2014 10:32 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I’m not trying to defend the guy but…LOL.

DCar
DCar
December 30, 2014 12:10 am
Reply to  haveacigar

OOOOOOOOH, but you ripped me for my truthful criticisms of the drafting, & free agent signings, by your boy Weaselman, & you touted & slobbered over the prize off-season signing of Jenkins, who was abducted by aliens, after week 3! GTFOH, you clueless, condescending fraud!!!!! You don’t don’t know shit!

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 31, 2014 10:29 am
Reply to  DCar

Jenkins played very well. He was assigned much more run support . He isn’t a ball hawk . But he played much better than your more expensive pick.

Stevo
Stevo
December 29, 2014 10:06 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

That’s fair. I did not want him here. If we had a chance to land somone top notch. Proven. I’d be in. It seems as though however that the players believe in him.

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 10:03 pm

Jerry azzinarro …will be named DC ..I believe …I know chip endorsed bill Davis for next year …but the improvement of the front 7 has Jerry’s hand all over it…well see how it all plays out…on another note jake dog…I listened intently to nick foles…he’s not deterred by any questions regarding his leading this football team next year …I admire him …he’s nimble on his feet ..when asked if he were healthy would the birds have made the playoffs …he deftly side stepped and said that’s not the reality ,and mark did a great job…he’s a leader ..he is the opposite of Johnny football..he took total responsibility for his turnovers …promised to learn from his mistakes and evaluated how valued his time was ,observing from the side lines ..not one ounce of false b.s. Or bravado..just straight talk..I got this ..this is my team ,and these are my guys…

greenfan
greenfan
December 29, 2014 10:27 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Hey desert….had to take some time off after that implosion of our season. Good points. I think that Davis has done some good and some bad things this year with the defense, but you touched on something that I have believed for a while. I really believe that Coach Azz is a far bigger part of everything done on the defensive side. Obviously he has got his defensive line playing at a much higher level this year, but from what have heard he has a much bigger part to running the overall defense. I think that Davis will survive, but look for a bigger role for Coach Azz.

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 10:09 pm

HAC …I hear you bro..but here’s where we differ…I truly believe he needed to sit his ass down…sometimes by not showing the guys around him any discipline and culpability it breeds an environment of mediocrity being acceptable..that’s the championship DC I’m alluding to…why did it take DeZ X in the cameras ? Desean dancing and kicking his eagle dance ? Before a change was made ? Do you really believe fletch was injured Tuesday? When asked to trace beckham all day ..williams said he was winded and begged off …that’s the IT I’m referencing….think Hopkins would have said that to jimmy J ? Never …he’d run through a wall for that guy..why? Because he respected him…

haveacigar
haveacigar
December 29, 2014 10:17 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Wes Hopkins did not play for JIM (not jimmy) Johnson so no your analogy is flawed big time

Stevo
Stevo
December 29, 2014 10:25 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

They don’t have players. Williams complained because be was beat. What else was he going to say? Fletch is trash.. We all know that. The only one I care to hear speak is Jenkins. He was kind in his interview.. Made sure not to trash his teammates but he was rather clear.. “sometimes we need to win the 1 on 1 matchups”. Here’s what I think will happen… Chip is smart. I trust him.. I do. I think he looks at all of it and gets us some friggin Cbs. I think he also says… Get it right or your gone.

But ya know what… Either way I’m good. Just get some damn players.

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 10:22 pm

HAC I’m not defending the desean decision or even debating it..but the DC watched his guy in single coverage bringing a safety up in the box and playing single high safety vs Green Bay ..when questioned he focused on stopping Lacey …wtf? Who does that when Rodgers is the qb..bill Davis that’s whom…when dezz called the birds cheap after the thanksgiving beat down ,he promised revenge ..so what does Bill Davis do ..he employs the same strategy as Green Bay to stop Murray and watches fletcher get lit up like a Xmas tree. After that sobering beat down in Washington he singles up fletcher again vs Djax..c’mon man …it’s indefensible …and yes his strategy or lack of allowed the eagles the most X plays in the whole nfl…he sullied the brand …he exited the playoffs …as did every sanchez pick …they both sucked ass…and I’m home watching Dallas ..

Stevo
Stevo
December 29, 2014 10:26 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Can’t argue that. Dead on. Making me a believer.

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 10:23 pm

My bad on hop you’re right ..but you get my jist ..he was a guy ..guys respected and ran through walls for..not that they were winded

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 10:25 pm

Let’s see how it all plays out …I say he’s 86ed..

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 10:27 pm

Stevo..williams is a bum ass ..you really want a guy saying in post exit interviews ..if if come back fine ..if not ..fine…see ya …

Stevo
Stevo
December 29, 2014 10:29 pm

No excuse for leaving fletch alone with any of these players.

And Desean… Its fun to watch him run his mouth when his team blows so bad.

deserteagle
deserteagle
December 29, 2014 10:33 pm

Green …I’m not over it by a long shot …from 9-3 the high of turkey day vs Dallas ….I’m still in denial …I’m angry now and want a piece of some guys …Nate the late Allen see ya …williams winded too tired …see ya …fletcher …I’m stealing $$ …see ya .. There was a pivot point in this season ,I still haven’t been able to grasp what went wrong ? Something upstairs? It will unwind in months ahead …but for now get these dudes out of green ..

Stevo
Stevo
December 29, 2014 10:36 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Agree.

They have to pay for stars. Overpay for start. Give 3 guys huge bonuses. They can use the money they were going to give Foles until he led the league in turnovers or whatever.