After turning in the best season of his career and expressing a clear desire to remain in Philadelphia, it was thought that Jeremy Maclin and the Eagles would be able to come to an agreement on a new contract, and it would only be a matter of “when” and not “if”.
Now, there’s some legitimate concern about whether or not the Eagles will be able to get a deal done with their top wideout.
Adam Caplan of ESPN spoke to 97.5 and expressed some concern about the team’s ability to get something worked out.
“Well, here’s the deal. So, about a month ago, I was asked — on I think it was NFL Insiders on ESPN — about the status of Maclin’s contract. I said “Don’t worry about it. He’s not going anywhere. The Eagles want him back. He wants to be back. This [deal] will get done.”
That was before Maclin changed his agent from Ben Dogra, who’s done a ton of deals going as far back as Jon Runyan. I mean he must have easily done two dozen contracts with the Eagles over the years. The Eagles have a great working relationship with him.
Now, Dogra broke off from CAA, and his partner was Tom Condon. Ironically, Tom Condon now represents Maclin. And Condon… I just get the sense he doesn’t have the same relationship with that Dogra did. I’m not saying the deal won’t get done, I’m just not nearly as optimistic as I was before. “
The Eagles still have plenty of time to work out a deal before free agency begins, but the reports of talks hitting any kind of snag is concerning.
Don’t think that Chip Kelly isn’t afraid of letting Maclin go. He didn’t hesitate to push DeSean Jackson, another Pro-Bowl receiver, out the door a year ago. If the Eagles and Maclin are too far apart on an appropriate number, it wouldn’t surprise me at all to see the Eagles move on from their top wideout. (Without receiving any compensation. For the second year in a row.)
The Eagles do have other options to address the receiver position, should things go south with Maclin. They have the franchise tag at their disposal, and if nothing else they can place the tag on Maclin and keep him under their control while working out a deal with one of the other top receivers in a deep free agent class.
Maclin is getting Jordy Nelson money. If he thinks hes a top tier wideout and wants Dez Bryant money….theres the door Maclin thanks for everything.
I am a Maclin fan. Would hate to see him go but he isnt invaluable. Randall Cobb Jordan Matthews and another rookie would do me just fine as well. With the ability to pick up a vet if available like VJax etc.
I wouldnt blow the purse strings on Maclin. Hell I would let Maclin walk if it meant McCourty and another top tier FA on defense.
Paulman would you swap Maclin for Cobb?
I would take Cobb over Maclin any day…
He’s quicker, stronger and more Versatile…
He also played QB in Kentucky and could be a “Wildcat” type of QB in certain situations as a Surprise Element to opposing Defenses…
God no…please no more wild cat crap.
EHL every time I hear “wildcat” I think of Ronnie Brown…and instantly get depressed….
Bad Memories of Ronnie Brown and that whole Damn Team..
Anyways, I would take WR Cobb over Maclin
They’re very statistically similar..Cobb had 12 touchdowns to macs 10.. But one guy has Aaron Rodgers ,throwing them the ball… And mark sanchez the other …so in the 8 games played with sanchez vs foles …his stats dropped off…one had 1200 plus yards one a tad more at 1300 plus…Cobb is more compact at 5-10 …Mac 6ft….Maclin will get paid .its incumbent on the eagles to not let another primary receiver walk out the nova care center ..with nothing to show for himself…that would be asinine …and destructive towards building any continuity…he’s a good dude ,I’d say he’ll get a fair buck ..and play into the big picture …but I wouldn’t sit around too long …Last I looked Andy got zippo production from his wide outs…so as Andy would say …Times Yours…
These very reasons are why I observe Chip…now in a new role…not just coaching up Mac ,he now is the sheriff ..saying wether you stay or go…he’s got to navigate this ,deftly ,and carefully …bruised egos and agents ,are a toxic combination …(rosenhaus and TO) it’s a minefield ,loving a dude on your roster and in a ny minute ,you re trying to take $$ out of his pocket …this is why I hope a capable GM can at least run interference for Chip…he’s navigating waters at the Nova Care he’s never swam in …he best know there’s more predatory agents than a piranha tank…and show he has the dexterity to be a dual role executive…the money always is an issue …for him ,now ,it’s a whole new ball game …
I’m in the camp that he has too much on his plate ..pick the players ..mold your roster ..play sheriff and decide who stays and who goes,..most importantly ,pick the right players in the right slots in the draft …what will chips style be…? With no shackles will he feel incredibly bold . .? We really don’t know,will he mortgage the future ,will he hit them all out of the park..will he pick a bust way too soon? This draft is mo re important to this city ,then the liberty bell..which upon no symbolism is lost …the cracks …and all it’s splendor ..will culture be a course he keeps or is talk cheap ,and he brings in some bad ass players …I can’t wait …I’m fairly confident this is an unprecedented wager by Jeffrey and this team…it’s no pun intended ,with all th eChips in the middle of the table…roll them bones …
Thought it might be interesting ..Seattle is out here in Az …lots of fans crowing about wearing the good guys ..white hat vs
New England …the deflate gate bad guys …black hats …culture matters…who wins ? It’s pick em in Vegas …
DesertEagle I am a Maclin fan, been singing his praises when most on here called him a bust etc…
But he doesn’t deserve break the bank money. He’s comparable to Jordy Nelson and I have no problem with that…but if Andy wants to give him Dez Bryant top 5 money I’m sorry you have to walk away on him.
lol I will admit I would let him walk to Kansas City if it means they can’t sign Justin Houston …
The 2014 season isn;tover yet right?
All the Wrs are going to be annoyed this year because too many of them are available….
Bryant, Thomas, Cobb, Maclin,Smith….and a host of lower level guys.
I think this might be a while simply because teams are going to want to wait out the market a bit. No team is going to want to be first to sign a wr for fear of overpaying….all will want to wait to see what the market is this year……
Pressure is on the players here because they know there are other options out there to replace them…..
If I were the Cowboys I would get Dez Bryant signed immediately. If another player signs for “Dez Bryant” money, Dez Bryant will want more because he believes he is the best in the game and should be paid so. However, I do fee that he has some loyalty to the Cowboys. But, if there is another player that signs for big money they (The Cowboys) will have to pay more than what they want.
Dez has already put them on notice, there won’t be any hometown discount and if they Franchise him it’s going to be a problem….he’s going to the highest bidder.
Maclin was a bust for his 1st 4 years in the league. He was soft, injury prone and ridiculed by a lot of fans. This year he was spectacular. He was tough, clutch and quite frankly as good as it gets at WR IMO. He really showed me and millions of fans a lot. There is noway I would take Cobb over him. I wouldn’t take D Thomas over him either. Now if you say Beckham, Dez, Calvin, Megatron or AJ Green that’s a different story. Get the deal done.
Maclin was far from a bust his first four years. Injury prone most definitely… soft hell no. People forget the 10tds rookie ore second year. Forget how he was clicking with Vick as his go to in the clutch and possession catches before he got hurt.
I have Dez and D.T a first tier then Maclin as top of the 2nd tier. Those two will set the tone of the WR market.
Maclin was soft when he first came aboard the starship Eagle. As soon as a defender came close to him he fell to the ground to avoid contact, hence the well earned nick name “Self Tacklin Maclin”. I don’t think he was soft due to the injuries and missing games because of illness, that’s just a physiological trait that can’t be helped. As far as him fighting for extra yards and blocking…he was soft like baby wipes!
Maclin is still soft! your not going to see him breaking tackles for yards after the catch and he’s not going across the middle much….I like Cobb better! Maclin played well this year and stayed healthy but I question him long term…it may be better to let him go if you can get Cobb or Thomas…both of them are tougher and more reliable as receivers
I am not sure how anyone can say WR J Maclin was a Bust for his 1st 4 Seasons
Take out his lost 2013 due to ACL Injury and Maclin has missed 5 Games over 5 Seasons of Playing..
Career Stats are 343 Receptions – 4,771 Yards & 36 TD’s
When averaging his Production over 5 Seasons of Playing
That’s 68 Receptions – 950 Yards and 7 TD’s per Season Average
How does anyone call this a Bust as a #2 WR behind D-Jax for 4 of his Playing Seasons…
Maclin was/is not a bust, just injury prone and soft. hopefully the injury bug is gone for good. It was a wise business decision not to play in the pro bowl.
He was not as soft this year though.
I agree Eagleshaslanded…that injury bug and softy play he has shown in the past could come back after he signs a fat deal!
Koolidiot…you make it too frikkin’ easy….
“Maclin is Soft and injury prone!” missed 19 games to injury in 6 years to injury.
“Cobb is tougher and more relaible!” Missed 12 games to injury in 4 years due to injury.
They’ve basically been injured the exact same % of games.
“Cobb is better – more productive!”
25 for 375 and 1
80 for 954 and 8
31 for 433 and 4 (missed most of eason injured)
91 for 1287 and 12
This with freekin’ Aaron Rodgers throwing him the ball.
Maclin
51 for 773 and 4
70 for 964 and 10
63 for 855 and 5
69 for 857 and 7
0 – missed year with injury
85 for 1318 and 10
Maclin has been MOOR productive
And this with a finished McNabb, overrated Vick, Concussed Kolb, rookie Foles and pathetic Sanchez throwing him the ball!
This is soooo typical of Koolidiot….pining for the “flash” of the new player. Steady, reliable production is irrelevant for Breeze as long as there is the dream of something new on the horizon…..
Foles? Winning QB in the NFL. But he doesn’t pound his chest….the next college guy is better!
Maclin? racking up solid yards and tds with scraps at the QB position? Cobb is better!
Cobb has had one good year. This year. In his contract year.
God….I almost hope Koolidiot gets his wish.
Mariotta throwing to Cobb. 38 catches for 565 yrds and 3 tds on tap.
The lesson, as always, Koolbreeze is an idiot.
I agree Paulman…its more perception than actual reality. Top that with the fact that he was a posession receiver in the Reid offense task with short and intermediate routes yet saddled with both Vick and McNabb who struggled mightily in that area.
If McNabb could throw an outright with accuracy and consistency than the Eagles would have beaten the Cardinals in Arizona.
All of this speculation is stupid. Same with either Foles or Maclin or Graham, the better question is who are their agents dealing with, Howie or Chip? First of all Chip has been at the Senior Bowl or meeting with potential GM’s and Howie is the salary cap contract negotiator so like I said who are these agents supposed to be dealing with. Still a dysfunctional situation if you ask me.
It is dysfunctional. What personnel guy who is looking to be a real GM wants to come here under these conditions? It is really just a DPP position, most guys who are interviewing already are in that position so it would just be a lateral move..for what? To come work at the NovaCare…please.
According to reports from Jeff Maclane, GM’s and coaches at the senior bowl were saying they did not even know who to call to discuss trades, and they did not even have Chip kelly’s #. JefLurie can’t have his cake and eat it too!
Spot On EHL,
Deserteagle and I have been talking about this very issue since the Front Office Shake-up…. Players Agents don’t deal with Coach’s, they Deal with GM”s and when Coach is going around the Country Scouting Potential Players.. He is not as accessible… No one is going to reach out for Howie since everyone know’s he has zippo authority and is out of the loop…
I stated when this all went down that not having a GM in the Front Office that has experience and knows Players Agents, how Free-Agency Works and Salary Cap Skills would be a huge blow to Coach Kelly being able to not only re-sign some Eagle Players, but would make it very difficult to attract quality Free-Agents for the communication process just isn’t there yest without having a GM..
This all falls on Jeff Lurie. I don’t blame Howie or Chip. Jeff needs to be the CEO or COO..whichever title he goes by and establish a clear set of personnel title positions and definitions. This whole thing is quite ambiguous and even more confusing than before the shake up. Jesus, I bet Christina Lurie could exert better control. Jeff should give her a shot while he continues to go balls deep in the new wife.
On second thought and I don’t know which one of you guys said this but Howie needs to go period this can’t work, he shouldn’t even be in the building.
that is true you can’t demote/promote a guy who has lost a power play… its impossible. fire him, pay him and apparently they have a guy that is good with the numbers in waiting– make him asst. to a real gm..or something…
Do the Eagles have a Vice President? If not give that job to Howie, he can just be Jeff’s errand boy. It appears Jeff wants to keep Howie around, but he should not be in any personnel/contract decision making capacity. I agree, though, he should just go. It would open everything up and make the search less complicated and more attractive.
Paul man and I are gratified ,that finally ,everyone EHL ,are now focusing finally on the Big Picture …Macro-football…Forget the childish Foles vs Anybody else debate..that will play itself out …as we transition from the Gold standard (tongue in cheek) to who knows what? We are clearly backed into this position by Jeffrey Lurie ,who completely allowed this mess under his watch to take form..you allowed Chip to draw a line in the sand and handed him everything ,without merit..how can you give a season ending state of the franchise oratory ,and a weekend later flip flop ? It isn’t really now a question of wether maclin worth the $$ but …does he want to immerse himself In this malaise . . ? These players have options…if no GM wants any piece of this structure ,who is to say a layer wants in on this business model…
Player not layer …wants any part of this .
not sure if this has been posted here or not
PHOENIX – The Eagles interviewed the Seahawks director of college scouting, Scott Fitterer, for their personnel executive opening, but he decided to stay in Seattle, Seahawks general manager John Schneider said Tuesday.
ESPN had reported that the Eagles were expected to interview Fitterer, but there was not any confirmation that a meeting had occurred until Schneider answered questions Tuesday at Super Bowl media day.
“He spoke with the Philadelphia Eagles, kept it on the down low,” Schneider said. “He’s staying with us.”
The Eagles have interviewed at least three candidates for a job that could have the general manager’s title. Chris Polian, the Jaguars director of pro personnel and a former Colts GM, recently had a second interview and is considered a serious contender, according to an NFL source.
“He’s going to be a good GM for someone,” said Tony Dungy, the former Colts coach who worked with Polian in Indianapolis. “The thing that we did – and I think Chris was really good at and his dad [former Colts president Bill Polian] was good at – is it’s one thing to be able to evaluate talent, but it’s another thing to say, ‘What does the coach want? You tell me what you need, and I’ll go find that. Not the player that I think is good, but the player that fits with you.’ ”
Dungy confirmed that Eagles coach Chip Kelly reached out to him at the beginning of the GM search after owner Jeffrey Lurie gave Kelly authority over personnel earlier this month. He said Kelly asked for his take on a few potential candidates.
Brian Gaine of the Texans also interviewed earlier this month, but before the Eagles were able to have a second interview, Houston promoted him to director of player personnel.
The Eagles requested interviews with the Chiefs’ Chris Ballard and the Buccaneers’ Jon Robinson, but they were denied the opportunity by both teams. Sources close to both situations said neither was interested in meeting with the Eagles.
The Dolphins’ director of college scouting, Chris Grier, is believed to have interviewed with the Eagles and remains a candidate. The Eagles’ assistant director of player personnel, Ed Marynowitz, has been mentioned as a possibility, but he said last week at the Senior Bowl that he had not had an interview.
The Eagles have not commented during the search, although when asked at the Senior Bowl for a time line for finding a new GM, Kelly said: “When we find the right guy.”
THIS IS UGLY, WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO COME HERE TO BE CHIPS BITCH?
no need to panic..things will work out
If its Chris Grier I would be more than happy. The Dolphins have found some real gems defensively and havent done a bad job scouting wise….they suck in personnel management and coaching but thats another story.
BigL/EHL….IMO I dont see the GM Search being as big as it made out to be because the main focus of the power struggle was to remove Howie from personnel decisions. That has been accomplished and I dont think that the whole plan was just to get rid of Howie and after that nothing. Chip probably already identified who in the Scouting department was loyal to who etc. gameplans for the draft, free agency etc are already in place….I think Chip is looking for the guy who understands his vision and that he can trust.
I also don’t see Howie being as big a pain in the ass as most think for the simple fact is that he has been publicly cast aside by both the coach and owner. If he continues to be a pain in the ass he will move further and further out of the spotlight.
IMO Howie will be gone as soon as he finds the right opportunity for him to climb in another organization. I see guys like Howie in the corporate world all the time…they never sit in the cut waiting for another chance in the same place. He is going to go somewhere else and regain his power.
Just my two cents….and I can understand the perception of dysfunction but I dont think its the reality at NovaCare. If the stories were true the level of distrust everyone started to have with Howie if anything bonded and united what was left.
toast i think that is a pretty good assessment of the situation
Paulman- to your point above about F/O structure. Could it be plausible that Marynowitz is already de facto GM and he is in tandem with Chip on also hiring someone to come in and run the department etc?
Could very well be IJ,
If this is the Case, then they probably should announce it..
I am not sure what Rick Mueller’s Role still is who interviewed and may not
be a “Chip-Man”
**Eagles Trade News**
Trade News via my source, Nick Foles could be on the move.
The Eagles may be in talks with the St Louis Rams for Nick Foles
The trade could involve the Eagles 20th ovr pick with Nick Foles and the Rams 10th ovr pick in this years draft
***Confirmed***
um…jon…i hate to break it to you but this story has been out for over a week– we all have that source… it was nj.com i believe…
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
“Could” and “may”, but it is confirmed.
I believe the Titans and Texans were mentioned in that same article as Teams interested…
The Texans would be a very good fit for Nick Foles
HC O’Brien loves those big, pocket QB’s and and utilizes a Vertical Passing Attack with a Strong Running Game
I believe the Eagles can get a 2nd Round Pick in 2015 and a 3rd/4th Rd in 2016 for Foles…
they could do much better than that!
What do you think they could get in return HAC?
With this years weak QB Draft Class & QB’s in Free-Agency, they could very well get a 1st Round Pick in Return
all but about 10-13 teams need to upgrade the QB– the qb position is the key to it all– and as we know the draft is NOTHING MORE THAN A CRAPSHOOT– coaches are in a win now mode (which is why kelly would be a fool to trade him)– he has proven he can win with a crappy defense… a team with a good defense would give up a fairly high one at minimum– he is cheap for this year, seasoned, a winner– a one for sure!
I am sure Foles would have to get a NEw Deal by his New Team
I see the Texans,Rams,possibly the Bronco’s if Peyton retires,
and the Cardinals, if Carson Palmer has a set-back in Rehabbing his knee as all logical Teams that would be good landing spots for Foles
I don’t see Tampa Bay/Titans who have the Top Picks giving up High Picks on “Future Potential QB’s like Winston, Mariota” for a Foles type for those Teams are not close to winning in the short -term…
Breaking News..Osama Bin Laden has been killed by a team of Navy Seals!
Just busting your stones Jon, but that Nick Foles to the Rams trade rumor is old. We were discussing it on this forum last week.
**Barack Obama becomes the Nations First Black Elected President***
**Gasoline Prices will be about $2.00 a Gallon in early 2015**
“Johnny Fotball Manziel will become the biggest Draft Bust since
Tim Tebow” says Paulman from April of 2014
Paul I am loving the gas prices. I swear I never thought I would see gas prices below $2.00 again. i have a sports car that requires premium so the pump has been quite painful.
Aren’t you a tad old for a Sports Car?? Ha
It sure is nice to fill up my Subaru Outback Wagon for about $26-$28 a tank full…
Subaru are such underrated cars. nice selection paul
They are great Cars for here in the Blue Ridge Mtns of Western NC
Goods Gas Mileage, All-Wheel Drive, Great Visibility & Handling and relatively inexpensive Maintenance Costs..
I bought my 2002 Model in 2005. Paid it off in 2008 and still have it and use everyday for my Work Commute or Driving around town, taught both kids how to Drive with it… It’s Great in the Snow, has nice Roof Rack for Kayaking, Skiing in the Winter Time…My Next Car will probably be another Subaru .
I have a Subaru Forrester and a Jeep Cherokee and the Subaru all wheel drive has been much safer on bad driving conditions than the Jeep’s 4WD.
Those New Forrester and Outback Models are really nice..
Reasonably Priced also in comparison…
Subaru makes a Great Car..
Lol…not at all. I am looking into getting an suv now though. The sports car is crap in icy conditions. I am looking into the infinity Q 70, test drove it and I was impressed. I liked the Toyota fj cruiser but they discontinued them so that is out. My sister had a subaru. She liked it.
Funny. I used to own a Forrester. A ’99. Good little truckster.
My Wife really liked those Toyota FJ Cruiser’s when they came out, I checked them out and they had a horrible “Maintenance Record” and just really poor Visibility and Handling.. She decided to stay with the Ford Family and the “Expedition” Model
She’s had 3 Of them now since about 1998 or so and just loves them… My son uses her old 2001 Model that we still have for running to school,soccer,around town…
I never test drove the FJ Cruiser, the later models received good reviews. I think I am sold on the Q70 anyway. Thanks for info on vehicles though. Appreciated!
That’s a no-brainer….do that deal in a heartbeat!
***Chip Kelly NEws***
Chip Kelly seen down at the University Of Penn – Wharton School of Business taking “Union Law/Contracts” Course.. Sources state that during Lunch Break,
Chip Kelly’s tells a fellow Student, “This is Bullshit, I came here to Coach and not have to deal with this mumbo-jumbo, Contracts, Agent talk”…
**** Eagles news
According to my source
The Philadelphia Inquirer’s Jimmy Kempski mentions OLB Jason Worilds as a free agent the Eagles could target.
Interestingly, ESPN’s Adam Caplan tweeted back in August that Worilds “would have signed with the Eagles” had he not been slapped with the transition tag by the Steelers last offseason. It indicates there was mutual interest from both sides. The Eagles will be on the hunt for a starting outside linebacker with Brandon Graham heading for free agency and Trent Cole a lock to be cut.
Related: Eagles
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News Jan 28 – 9:19 AM
I swap out Cole/Graham for Worilds in a heartbeat
You mean for someone who has actually played in a 3-4. You are crazy Izzell.
lol
Bugsy I am NOT a Brandon Graham fan at all.
Hopefully that pans out.
I was checking out the Free-Agents from the Houston Texans since the Eagles seem to Sign one of their Former Players every year..
So Far I have come up with the Following
1) OLB – Brooks Reed
2) ILB – Akeem Kent
3) CB – Kareem Jackson
4) Safety – Kendrick Lewis
Kareem Jackson wouldnt be a bad 2nd corner if they target a better 1st.
K Jackson has played pretty well the last 2 Seasons after a rocky start in the NFL…. He’s a solid Player, No shutdown Corner for sure, but a viable #2 CB…
I think the Eagles will groom Nolan Carroll as their #2 CB…
We can scratch msxwell off the list, it’s being reported the Seahawks are in talks about extending him.
Andrew that may be true but at some point they are signing Wilson to 20$ million…Sherman, lynch, Thomas etc…
If you can’t sign Maclin long-term. Franchise him and trade him for 2nd and a 4th. Doubt we’d get a 1st out of him.
2015 draft picks (if this plays out)
1,2,2,3,4,4,4,5,6,7
However, this does put WR back as a position of need.
I don’t believe you can trade a Player who gets a “Franchise Tag” on them.
Either you pay that Player the “Franchise Salary” for the 2015 Season or both sides have to Sept 20th to sign a Long-Term Deal…
For the Record, No Team is giving up a 2nd & 4th for WR Maclin
This is a deep WR Free-Agency where Teams don’t have to give up Picks at all to sign a WR, plus this Draft is pretty good at WR..
Marcus Mariota – QB – Player
ESPN’s Adam Schefter says there’s a “real sense” Tampa Bay has its sights set on Oregon QB Marcus Mariota at No. 1 overall.
Schefter concedes that “many NFL executives and scouts believe Florida State’s Jameis Winston is the best pro quarterback prospect in this draft.” But perhaps the Bucs and new OC Dirk Koetter see things differently, placing more stock in Mariota’s mobility and clean off-field resume. More likely, there’s just a lot of speculation out there right now with the draft still three months away. We’re skeptical the Bucs have come close to making up their mind yet.
Related: Buccaneers
Source: ESPN.com Jan 29 – 11:06 AM
Don’t believe a word of this Mhenski
HC Lovie Smith hates playing young,inexperienced QB’s
I expect them to either Trade Back or grab that Big DT L Williams to play alongside Gerald McCoy or the Top Pass Rusher on the Board (Randy Gregory) that they are so desperate for ..
Lovie Smith has to first wake from his coma before he makes a decision.
I think you are mistaken….Lovie won with Rex…hes not afraid to go with a young guy. On top of that drafting a young QB may give him a year or two extra to rebuild.
I will keep saying it but there is no way Marriotta is outta the top 5 let alone the top 10.
Hell Jameis Winston better hope that his rape accuser looks like a total liar in that film that is coming out before the draft or he could drop like a rock…..
How about a Bet IJ,
I say that Mariota falls below the Top 8 in the 2015 Draft
I’ll take that bet Paulman.
Check it out IJ,
Rex Grossman was Drafted in the 1st Round (# 22nd Pick)
and did not become a Full-Time Starter until his 4th Season in the NFL (2006)
2003 – Played 3 Games (behind Kordell Stewart & Chris Chandler)
2004 – Played 3 Games (behind Chad Hutchinson,Craig Krenzel and Jonathon Quinn)
2005 – Played 2 Games (behind Kyle Orton)
2006 – Played all 16 Games as their Starter
2007 – Played 8 Games and Split time with Brian Greise
2008 – Played 4 Games and behind Starter Kyle Orton)
Rex Grossman was Drafted in 2003 and became the Full-Time Starter
om 2016, in his 4th Season…
My point with Lovie is a rookie wouldn’t scare him…because honestly his main focus is always the defense. So he gives Koetter what he needs and he concentrates on the defense. Look at those names ahead of him Rex.
Lovie would draft him just to say…”give me time…I have a young team”
As I listed above,
Rex G was in his 4th Season once he got the Starters Job,
So hardly a youngster… Locus Smith does not have that kind of time
In Tampa.. They signed J McKnown last year
To a 3 year Deal and will probably add a QB this Draft
But not early in the Draft
They need Pass-Rushers, RB & OL & LB
That Lovie Smith wants first & early in Draft
I can hear Koolidiot pounding his keyboard and screaming “No! No! No! No!” from here.
Asked if he expects to return as the Eagles’ starter in 2015, Nick Foles responded “(I plan on) being in Philly.”
“I only listen to the people at the (Eagles’) facility,” Foles said. “(Coach/GM Chip Kelly is) the one that will make the decision.” It’s certainly notable that Foles wasn’t unequivocal when asked if he’ll be starting. Heading into the final year of his rookie contract, things are completely up in the air for Foles. He could be traded, benched or retain his starting job.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News
Jan 29 – 1:32 PM
I think Kelly will be Trading QB Nick Foles to the Houston Texans for their 2nd Rd Pick (#48th Overall) and OLB Whitney Mercilus (6-4 258lbs)
I think Kelly will be Trading QB Nick Foles to the Houston Texans for their 2nd Rd Pick (#48th Overall) and OLB Whitney Mercilus (6-4 258lbs)
Then what? Play quarterback himself?
There’s not a chance in hell that Nick Foles will go anywhere unless someone besides Matt Barkley is on the roster.
If you see the Eagles re-sign Mark Sanchez on March 10th (free agency), you will know that Foles might be gone. If the Eagles sign someone like Brian Hoyer, Floes will not be traded.
Kelly won’t start the season with nothing but a rookie (Mariota), and a couple backups. Kelly needs Foles/Sanchez even if he drafts Mariota…
I do believe Kelly Signs Sanchez or possibly a Jake Locker as a Free-Agent
then will Draft a QB and go to Summer Camp with Sanchez/Locker, Barkley and Draft Pick …
Eagles Picks thru the 1st 4 Rounds
1st Rd (20th) QB – Brett Hundley (UCLA 6-3 227lbs)
2nd Rd (48th) WR- Devin Smith (Ohio State 6-0 192lbs)
2nd Rd (52nd) Safety -Anthony Harris (Virgina 6-1 195lbs)
3rd Rd (84th) Guard – John Miller (Louisville 6-3 315lbs)
4th Rd (from BIlls) CB – Steve Nelson (Oregon St 5-10 200lbs)
4th Rd CB – Kevin Johnson (Wake Forest 6-0 180lbs)
Don’t be trying to steal my thunder with Devin Smith Paulman…..
That’s a bad draft paul, ugh
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What’s bad about JH?
I see 3-4 Starters/ Contributors in 2015
(D Smith, A Harris,J Miller & S Nelson)
With QB Hundley grooming for 2016
Devin smith is the only prospect I like so far out of all the players you listed.
Hundley is not a QB, hes a runner at this point
Like JH has been saying for the past two years, in order for this offense to reach its full potential, zone read etc, we need a QB that has the ABILITY to take off and run for 10 plus yards not just 2 maybe 3, but not just a running QB. We need brains, arm strength, accuracy etc..
Honestly Mariota is all those things but I dont see them trading away the whole draft for him
But I wouldn’t draft Hundley either, too much of a project and wants to use his athletic ability way too much, run run run
I like the idea of drafting defense early, and draft a WR or 2 late
I agree Hundley is needs coaching but could be a monster under Chip’s Tutelage for years to come without the need to rush him into the line up.
If Mariota is to far up to get then Hundly would be a great pick up because we won’t have to “sell the farm” like these losers keep claiming and we’ll have a young player with all the physical tools for Cip to mold as the future for the Eagles once Foles don’t pan out.
This season will be Fole’s last shot and we’re not scrambling for answers if he falters again.
Hundley, and Devin Smith are both reaches as potential starters IMHO – don’t like either AT ALL. …Both will be over drafted,………. but I give the rest of the draft a C
Well getting Hundley would still give the Eagles options with the rest of their picks opposed to giving up the farm right?
Hundley isn’t a good prospect at QB at all, so I wouldn’t waste my time with him. This is really a weak QB draft class – that includes Mariota for me.
Our QB prospect is in next years draft
Hey Paulman….Gamble is head of Personnel in SF…and Ed is a Gamble guy….
Maybe they talk to SF about that gut of LBs that they have…..
Not gonna happen Izzell unless…
They want us to take Chris Borland off their hands lol 24 year old stud MLB
49ers have 6 Quality ILB’s
2 are Free-Agents (J Whilhoite and D Skuda)
Have an aging High $$$ in Patrick Willis
And fallen out favor Ahmad Brooks
To go along with N Bowman and young stud C Borland
3 of these Players will be available
Both Free-Agents and I believe the 49ers cut
P Willis for Salary Cap reasons and replace him with Borland
Eagles should pursue Willis,Skuda or Whilhoite
To replace Ryans
Getting rid of 2 ProBowl players in 2 years seems counter-productive.
Hopefully the Eagles will re-sign Maclin.
It may be more of Maclin saying Bye to the Eagles
Then the other way around..
Free-Agents have earned the right to Test the Market and
See what their Maximum Value Range is…
There is nothing wrong with Players doing this as
This is their one chance to determine who
And where they play for….
still dumb, and counter productive on the part of the Eagles to even play with the process, and not get it done.
Don’t give me Randall Cobb as a replacement, when he would be getting the same type of money……
and may not be the same receiver outside of Aaron Rodgers, and you would still need a viable #1 with or without Maclin, or Cobb…
Sign Maclin, be done with it, and hopefully we can draft, and develop that viable #1.
Another thing, spare me with the Chris Borland being a stud LB crap – He played well in Patrick Willis absence, but just because he played over his head, doesn’t enshrine him as a stud – he’s a little more than average LB – at best……. stop it.
Why do some of you guys keep confusing
The notion that’s it’s up to the Eagles to Re-Sign
J Maclin.. Players wait their entire Careers to
Test the Market as “Free-Agents”
It will be up to Maclin to decide if had wants to remain
In Philadelphia and not the Eagles Decision
Either way, Maclin will most likely wait until D Thomas & D Bryant’s
Sign Deals to establish a Market.. Then Maclin will make his move
Paulman’s Eagles 2015 Mock Draft (Version #16)
After adding CB’s and a Safety in Free-Agency
The Eagles Draft the Following
1st Rd – OT – Ereck Flowers (Miami 6-5 325lbs)
2nd Rd – Guard – Tre Jackson (FLa St 6-4 325lbs)
3rd Rd – WR/DB – Tony Lippett (Mich State 6-3 195lbs)
4th Rd – Guard – Ali Marpet (Hobart 6-4 310lbs)
4th Rd – LB – Zach Hodges (Harvard 6-3 245lbs)
5th Rd – CB – Chris Mager (Texas State 6-0 191lbs)
6th Rd – DE/OLB – Shaquille Riddick (West Virginia 6-6 240lbs)
7th Rd – Safety – Detrick Bonner (Virgina Tech 6-1 205lbs)
I knew you could do better…..
I will have 20 more between now and Draft Weekend… Ha
The more I look at this Draft, the better the OL Position Group looks to me and is probably the Strength of this entire Draft Class and the Eagles really have to address their aging OL this Draft knowing that it takes a Season or 2 to get a Young Player up to speed at the NFL Level
I think Herremans is already a goner and needs replaced this Season, and I believe Peters has 2 Seasons at best and Mathis maybe 1 more Season..
Look at the Eagle main Rivals in the NFC East with the Cowboys and Giants having addressed their OL’s in recent Drafts..
1a. Vic Beasley – OLB – 6-2 245 4.63
1b. Ereck Flowers – OT – 6-5 332
2a. Quinton Rollins – CB – 6-0 202 4.52
2b. Shaq Thompson – S – Fmr. Baseball player can play centerfield – 6-2 225
2c. Benardrick McKinney – ILB – 6-4 245 4.64
3a. Stephone Anthony – OLB/ILB – 6-2 245 4.67
3b. Jordan Phillips – NT – 6-6 335
4a. Laken Tomlinson – OG – 6-4 330
4b. Doriel Green Beckham – WR – 6-4 220 4.47
4c. Jacoby Glenn – CB – 6-0 190 4.51
5. Terry Williams – NT – 6-2 340
6. Jarvis Harrison – OG – 6-4 342
7. Brandon Bridge – QB – 6-4 225 4.73
To Critique GMCliff’s Mock Draft
I do not like Vic Beasley at all for the Eagles or the NFL for that matter…
I see another Clemson Player who is small and strictly a speed Pass-Rusher who simply is not big or strong enough to be an every down Player and that’s former Eagle Pick Billy Sapp… Stay away from Beasley as a 1st Round Selection…
2A – CB Rollins I like big time, but he’s going late 1st/early 2nd Round and no way is He on Board at # 52 in the 2nd Round for the Eagles
3A – LB Stephone Anthony has some nice upside, struggles in pass coverages and Rd #3 is a Round Early
3B – DT Jordan Phillips will be another late 1st/early 2nd Round Pick and will not be on the Board in the 3rd Round at #84 for the Eagles
4A – Guard – Laken Thompson of Duke is a solid Player with nice Upside and will be gone by the 3rd Round so not availiable for Eagles in the 4th Round at the #120 area Selection
4B – WR – Doriel Green Beckham simply does not fit the Culture and will be off Draft Board by the 2nd ROund anyways and not Available in the 4th
5th thru 7th look good and I really like NT T Williams and Guard J Harrison
So to Recap, once I take out the Players that most likely will be off the Boards from where you had them listed, I come up with a more realistic GMCliff Mock Draft as Follows
1st – OT Ereck FLowers
2nd – Safety Shaq Thompson
3rd – ILB Stephone Anthony
4th – CB Jacoby Green
5th – NT Terry Williams
6th – Guard Jarvis Harrison
7th – QB Brandon Bridge
Not Bad Cliff.
I disagree with you on Vic Beasley. He offers a higher upside than both Cole, and Graham, and can actually drop into coverage.
……and remember Paul, I want to trade Barwin, and trade down a couple of times as well meaning Quinton Rollins would be in reach as would Benardrick McKinney……
Jordan Phillips is not going in the 1st, or early 2nd at all with his history of back issues, and I find a way to get Tomlinson on my team – He, and Harrison would be the eventual successors to Herramans, and Mathis who I would also trade
I would draft Green Beckham in the 4th – screw culture. This is my mock, not Chips. Mine would be better for the Eagles in the long run, and I boycott all Oregon Prospects.
These mocks you’re referring to, also only offer a supposition of where these players will be drafted – not an exact position.
You say Trade Down a Couple of Times for Additional Picks every Draft and every Year and it never occurs. My Mock Draft Reflect where the Eagles Actually Pick
1st – #20
2nd – #52
3rd – #84
Then the Start of Compensatory Picks after the 3rd Round which will add 5-10 Selections after Rounds 3,4,5,6,7
4th – from Bills (Approx #115-#120)
4th – (Approx #125th)
5th – (Approx # 160)
6th – (Approx # 200)
7th – (Approx # 240)
It never occurs because the Eagles are not capable of identifying what they really need in player personnel – the right personnel, the right prospects – and aggressively pursuing the deals that would it take to acquire the right talent ….never have…….
They overvalue mediocre talent, and until they remove that mindset , they will never win a SuperBowl…
They need more picks, to acquire the talent they need at their weak positions, and trading down is the way to go…that’s why I say it
Every Team wants more Draft Picks, but the “Supply Side” of other Teams willing to Move up while Trading Picks away is usually not
there to make these deals work…
Coach them Up— Look at New England & Seattle’s Success
If these Teams Success doesn’t reflect on Great Coaching, then I don’t know what else to say… Lots of Mid to Late Round PIcks having Success, Lots of Castaways on Patriots Roster year after year and they make it work…
Why can’t Chip Kelly and his Staff…
Not true…..trades like that happen all the time, if a team is aggressive enough, and knows what’s best for their team….that’s not true at all.
New England traded down consistently in consecutive years, and in years they didn’t count on late picks because they would have multiple 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks – Seattle did the same thing….you’re making my point – It wasn’t just coaching….
and what late round picks do you think they have that are having success????
Chip, and his coaching staff don’t have the eye for talent, nor the pedigree of success to do the same, …..and he isn’t Belicheck…
Well he has only been there two years and… Um he has won some games and before you say it was ARs talent (you were critical of AR too) he has some of his own guys contributing for sure…
Seahawks – Wilson a 3rd Rounder, Sherman a 4th or 5th Rounder
Chancellor a 6th Rounder
Patriots – Half their OL & Secondary are late Round Picks
Belecheck brought in RB Blount, TE Wright, LB Casillas, LB Ayers all in with Trades or off the Streets
WR B LaFell, no one wanted and T Brady helps turn into a good Player..
Ciggy, I never make a big deal about Andy Reid’s so called talent. Anytime he has drafted a decent player, he always went against the grain of his thinking – Shady , DeSean, Maclin etc…they’re the exception, no the routine for him…..
Kelly has won some game, and could, and should have won more with more of a focus on the Defense.. That’s where the pedigree of common sense would come in to balance the efficiency of both equally….
He hasn’t won enough to get that, but SHOULD learn from it going forward instead of focusing on a Marcus Mariota – but we will see…
@Paulman – again the exception not the rule – It happened one year, and you haven’t seen it since with the Seahawks.
The Patriots can identify talent, and place average players in their systems and be successful, but that doesn’t mean you put the majority of your eggs in the basket of the mid to late rounds, and put their development on the coaches – and notice you couldn’t give me any prospects that have been successful lately of the mid to late draft picks over the last few years….. FYI
Revis, McCourty, Chung, Collins, Jones, Mayo, Wilfork, Hightower, and Logan Ryans are 1st, or 2nd Round picks..
Vollmer, Mankins, Solder, Cannon, and Gronkowski – although drafted in the 4th, would have been drafted earlier if not for his illness – are not mid to late round picks; they’re 1st, and 2nd round picks…..
Cannon drafted in the 4th, not Gronkowski…..
check out the latest on Green Beckham, he is dropping like a rock because of his off field issues, – The Eagles, and the Texans have alredy taken him off their boards completely
– but that could be a smokescreen
and also because he hasn’t actually played football for some time so he could be available between the late 3rd- late 4th Rounds
DGB was Arrested Twice for Marijuana Related Crimes and was then Investigated on a Burglary/Assault Case all while at U of MIssouri and then was booted out of their Program…
Compares Talent,Skill and Athletic Wise to a AJ Green of the Bengals
He will never wear an Eagles Uniform regardless of what you, me or any other Poster thinks about him, Talent Wise.. Jeff Lurie would never have this kind of Player representing his “Eagles Brand”
It is what it is… Owner Lurie tells Chip Kelly and Scouting Dept,
there are over 250 WR’s in this and every Draft, So do your Homework and find another one for the Team… That’s how he is…
I get it Paul…..But that won’t deter teams from drafting Jaimeis Winston #1, or #2……That is what you expect from kids their age though….
It’s a fin line, I understand, but I do think the Eagles would benefit from the talent, as opposed to drafting some prospect with lesser talent that gets cut, or put on the Practice Squad, after wasting a draft pick on them while Green Beckham matures, and develops into a star….
A big Difference between Maturity Issues/Poor Judgement and a Pattern of Criminal Behavior
The Story of Winston’s time with the woman who was thinking of filing Sexual Assault Charges charges is the classic “He Said-She Said” Story with a person or party who has a lot to gain financially by making the story public for an out of court settlement..
It all depends what the Ownership and Organizational Attitude is towards staying away from Players with the “Red-Flags” are
The Eagles under Ownership Jeff Lurie have been very consistent with staying away from Players with a History or Pattern of “Criminal Activity”
They took a chance on D-Jax and in their Minds, the Damage or Detriment outweighed the Talent and the Benefit..
and I am not saying any of this is right or wrong, but I am saying that this is how the Eagles under Jeff Lurie have operated and I don’t expect this to change just because Chip Kelly is now over-seeing the Player Personnel/Drafting & Scouting areas
Big difference between Stud, and scrub too…..Jeff Mahael, Josh Huff, Devin Smith, etc…scrubs…..Chip Kelly’s preference……wrong choices……can’t blame anyone else when left out of the playoffs of the elite, when they keep bringing in mediocrity……
Winston has been protected by politics. If that were you, or I we would be in prison.
Coach them Up and Find other Players is Owner’s Jeff Lurie’s and almost every other NFL Owner response.. These are Billionaires who remain Billionaires whether they Win or Lose but one thing they do have in common, is that they are not going to allow a handful of what they think are “Slugs or Thugs’ bring their Brand Name down or damage it…
Dude Pman that draft right there is the best one youve had so far i would take my man vic beasley over erick flowers in 1st….people sleeping on vic but the guy has the ability to get the qb constantly
This is Cliff Z….
We need some young OLB’s considering the lack of depth, DeMeco, and the uncertainty of Cole, and Graham. That is more of a priority than Cornerback in my opinion.
Beasley will get manhandled by NFL OT’s and Blocking TE’s in my opinion
as a lot of these 235-245 LB Pass-Rushers in this Draft will be
Randy Gregory, Shane Ray, Shaq Thompson and V Beasley I pass on all of them in the 1st Round… I think they will be solid Rotational Players as designated Pass-Rushers but not every down Players their first 2 Seasons to warrant an Early 1st Round Pick..
Again, I disagree with you. Somebody always has a criticism of these prospects. Cam Chancellor had his shortcomings going into the draft as well, but I guarantee you those same critics would love to have him now….
I like Shaq Thompson, as a Strong Safety – not so much as an OLB. He has the speed, and range to play the position.
I think you’re wrong on Beasley Paul. Last year I would have agreed with you.
hat isn’t Pauls’ Mock….He isn’t that good
I love addressing the oline the cowboyz did it and that made them a playoff team instantly
Where is DCar???
Chip Hired DCar as an “Advanced Scout” so he no longer can comment on here on GCobb for Chip has Ed Marynowski watching his every move…
HAHAHAA!!!! WOW!!…..
I ‘m happy for my homie DCar
Unfortunately he was fired after repeatedly referring to lane Johnson as LaMe and saying ertz was a luxury. When discussing it with chip he went on a violent outrage using %~~>%{€¥# profanity, calling chip a gimmick , he further went on to be critical of lurie, mentioning something about having a limp wrist
Paulman’s Eagles Mock Draft on what I think Chip Kelly will do
1st Rd – DL Arik Armstead (Oregon 6-7 296lbs)
2nd Rd- CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu (Oregon 5-9 185lbs)
3rd Rd – OT Jake Fisher (Oregon 6-6 300lbs)
4th Rd – Center/Guard Hroniss Grasu (Oregon 6-3 300lbs)
4th Rd – OLB Tony Washington (Oregon 6-3 250lbs)
5th Rd – ILB Derek Malone (Oregon 6-2 225lbs)
6th Rd – Safety Eric Dargan (Oregon 5-11 215lbs)
7th Rd – CB Troy Hill (Oregon 5-10 175lbs)
sad but true
Eagles Finish 7-9 in 2015, then 6-10 in 2016 and finally 4-12 in Kelly’s Final Year in 2017… It’s back to the Drawing Board for Lurie & Smolenski…
Kelly in his 5 Years with the Eagles finishes a disappointing 37-43 in his 80 NFL Game Career as a NFL Head Coach after a promising start winning only 35% of his Remaining Games after a 20-12 Start in his 1st 2 Years with mostly Andy Reid/Howie Roseman Players…
Good Grief!!!!!
LOL!!
Go DUCKS!!!!!!!