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Eagles Will Begin With Eric Rowe At The Cornerback Position

EricRowe7The Eagles had the worst secondary in the National Football League a year ago and I don’t think it was just the players, I didn’t like the job defensive coordinator Billy Davis did of calling the coverages.  He played so much man-to-man with ineffective safety Nate Allen sitting in the middle of the field, it would have taken a couple of Pro Bowl corners out there to have a good year.

In my opinion, they need to mix up the coverages more often.  They did an awful job of disguising the coverages in 2014 and that must improve.  If a quarterback knows what coverage you’re in, then he knows where he’s going with the football.  You must do a better job of keeping the quarterback guessing.

From a personnel standpoint, I think they’re going to try everybody they can out at the cornerback position.

I think the Eagles are going to start rookie second round draft pick, Eric Rowe, off at the cornerback position.  They’ll find out early if he’s good of an athlete to survive out there.  You can always move a cornerback to safety, but it’s not as easy to make the move vice versa.

Covering wide receivers man-to-man is definitely the toughest job a defensive back has to do in the NFL.  A good cornerback has tremendous value with the way teams are throwing the ball so much, and the disadvantage corners have because of the rules on pass interference.

Rowe runs a 4.45 and he’s very physical, so he will play somewhere for the Birds and they hope it will be at the cornerback position because that’s still the hardest position to find and to play.

If he can handle the deep routes, he’ll be a starter at the beginning on the season.  With his size and aggressiveness, he will be fine on the short and intermediate routes, but you’ve got to play the deep routes as well. There’s no doubt he will play somewhere right away.

Of course Byron Maxwell will be one of the starting corners and he could be a mentor to Rowe.  He knows Walter Thurmond because they played together in Seattle.  Maxwell played the right cornerback position in Seattle, but they could put him on the left side because most teams are right handed.

Thurmond has some experience and played in the man-to-man press technique style in Seattle, so that should give him an advantage.   Thurmond stands 5’11 and weighs 190 pounds and will probably start off at the other cornerback spot.

I don’t see any way veteran Brandon Boykin wins a starting cornerback position.  The Birds aren’t going to resign him because of his height, 5’9″ at best, but he will still get a shot at the nickel back position.  He had a bad year in 2014 and he will need to improve dramatically or he will hit the road.  He’s got one foot out of here.

I think Nolan Carroll is probably ahead of Boykin at the nickel back position right now.  He will need to prove himself this year and could get a shot at the safety position.

Jacorey Shepherd has some great coverage skills, but like Rowe he’s got to prove he’s fast enough to run with the deep routes. I like the tape I saw of him, but I don’t know if he’s fast enough to handle the speedier receivers in the league.

First team: Byron Maxwell, Walter Thurmond
Second team: Eric Rowe, Nolan Carroll
Third team: Brandon Boykin , JaCorey Shepherd
Denzel Rice

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paulman
paulman
May 5, 2015 3:23 pm

Rowe is going to have to learn awful fast to be a Starting CB to open the Season but I do like the Fact that the Eagles brought in a new Secondary Coach in Corey Undlin who was Coaching at Denver the last few Seasons and has done a nice Job with mixing coverages and developing CB’s A Talib, Chris Harris, Tony Carter and last Years Rookie Bradley Robey into a well-coordinated Group to go along with their Safety’s..

We’ll have to wait and see of Rowe is an NFL CB or better suited to Safety
He has the Size, Athleticism and Ball Skills to really excel at Safety in my opinion more so than at CB..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 5, 2015 3:30 pm
Reply to  paulman

He doesnt need to be a starter at the beginning of the season. He just needs to be a significant contributor by the end of the season. Alot of his play will rely on the play of the opposite safety to Jenkins. They wont put Rowe out there to fail if the back end is a mess. Carroll is going to be penciled in and groom Rowe as his replacement. Boykin is going to have to fight tooth and nail with Thurmond this offseason. I guarantee if Thurmond stays healthy they will hype him up like they did Carroll during last offseason.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
May 5, 2015 3:38 pm

If Rowe can’t start in this secondary he can’t play in the NFL. This secondary is bad, real bad, really really bad, flat out the worst in the NFL.

zilents44
zilents44
May 5, 2015 3:43 pm

he better start somewhere

paulman
paulman
May 5, 2015 4:12 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Lets not rush the guy out there if he can’t handle it yet and then ruin him for his Career

I see Byron Maxwell & Nolan Carroll as the Starting CB’s
Thurmond as the Nickel CB and Eric Rowe as the 4th Safety
and getting on the Field in some Sub-Packages & Sehpard as the 5th CB
Depending how Nolan Carroll plays, then I see Rowe moving into a Starters Role maybe by mid-season

At Safety, I see M Jenkins and J Watkins being the Starters
with Couplin, Maragos and Prosinski as the Back-ups
with Nolan Carrol getting Reps and willing to Play Safety if emergency

I see Boykin a Goner, a See Earl Wolff as a goner…

6th Round PIck Evans I see landing on the PRactice Squad

It’s Usually 10 DB’s that make the 53Man Roster
5-6 CB’s with 4-5 Safety’s including a Player or Two who can Play Both

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 5, 2015 4:13 pm
Reply to  paulman

Agreed Paulman.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 5, 2015 4:14 pm
Reply to  paulman

Boykin will have high value in solidifying a position on the roster in the preseason that is weak going on or weakened due to injury.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 5, 2015 3:53 pm

CB is a confidence position that can get erased quickly. If Jaylen Watkins is the starter there is no way you can start Rowe there day 1. If I am not mistaken the Bears didnt start Kyle Fuller day one. I believe he took over for Tillman once he got heart and they were working him in at the same time.

Look at Clairborne as well in Dallas. Etc.

That safety position is going to be key in taking shape of who plays where. If its Watkins I think they play it safe early which means more vets on the field. I think they are bringing in another vet here soon or during cuts.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 5, 2015 4:00 pm

Safeties- Jenkins/Watkins-Wolff/FA pickup backups

Corner- Maxwell/Carroll Outside Rowe 1st backup to both outside spots.
Thurmond/Boykin winner Inside other backup to slot.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
May 5, 2015 4:11 pm

Last year all preseason the Chipper pretended Brad Smith was 1st string slot receiver until the real games started and Jordan Matthews was inserted into the starting lineup week one at slot receiver. Rowe will be a starter regardless of what nonsense they say in the preseason.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
May 5, 2015 5:27 pm

I repeatedly stated I think Billy Davis was the secondary’s biggest problem…I think he left Bradley Fletcher hanging out to dry against some of the best receivers in the league with very little help, no mixing up of coverages.
He sat back and watch the guy get burnt over and over again with little to no help.
If we see the same thing this upcoming season its time to consider getting rid of Billy Davis!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
May 5, 2015 6:22 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

And if that was allowed to happen Chip would have to be called on the carpet for letting Davis do that. Hopefully that will not be an issue.

paulman
paulman
May 5, 2015 9:56 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

This single fact that Chip did not make a change from DC Billy Davis when the plan for wholesale changes were about to occur with the Secondary & LB Corps could very well define His Tenure in Philly…
This was the off-season to bring in another DC..
Vic Fangio, Ken Norton Jr, Dick LeBeau & others were out there
Time will tell but the Eagles will need to make tremendous strides just to improve to middle of the Pack in Defensive Stats and this will be difficult to achieve with 4-5 New Starters, with new Secondary Coach etc..

paulman
paulman
May 5, 2015 10:12 pm

Patriots release CB Alex Denard after selecting some DB’s in the Draft
Denard was originally highly rated a few years ago from Nebraska, I believe and then had some off the field issues and dropped in the Draft, then had violated the NFL Policy and never got his NFL Career on Track

paulman
paulman
May 5, 2015 10:22 pm

KC Chiefs Release QB Aaron Pryor who has tried to play for 3 Teams in the NFL (Raiders, Seahawks & Chiefs) with the continued concern that Pryor just has a hard time of learning and picking up NFL Playbooks, despite his natural athleticism ..

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
May 5, 2015 10:44 pm
Reply to  paulman

That’s Terell (Spelling) Pryor. Run don’t walk away from any thought of him.

paulman
paulman
May 6, 2015 2:18 pm
Reply to  RegalEagle

I think I’ve mis-stated Aaron Pryor instead of Terelle about every time..
Boxer Aaron Pryor was a beast in his day and had some Wars with
Alexis Arguello, Boom Boom Mancini back in the day when Boxing was actually exciting to watch

paulman
paulman
May 5, 2015 10:32 pm

I forgot about Eagles picking up CB EJ Biggers earlier this Spring..
Eagles will have lots of Players competing for their Secondary

zilents44
zilents44
May 5, 2015 11:54 pm
Reply to  paulman

Damn pman forgot all about biggers….luv competition

daggolden
daggolden
May 5, 2015 10:45 pm

“According to multiple NFL sources, LSU offensive lineman La’el Collins will receive interest from seven teams.

He has already received interest from two initially, starting with Buffalo and the Miami Dolphins. However, those teams are going to wait until the investigation by Baton Rogue police is completed and to see if Collins is completely cleared in the murder of a former acquaintance and that acquaintance’s baby girl.

Now, those seven teams that have expressed interest, aside from Buffalo and Miami … you have Detroit, St. Louis, Baltimore, Philadelphia, New Orleans. Those five in addition to the initial two, again, Miami and Buffalo.

Another eight teams are expected to express interest in Collins along the way, who is an undrafted free agent. While there are limitations on what NFL teams can do in terms of signing him, and he’s not going to expect more than a 5,000-10,000 signing bonus, there are some other things such as guaranteeing his three-year salary that NFL teams could do.

And so that he reaches a restricted free agency after three years and perhaps unrestricted free agency after four years. Again, all of this is dependent on how the investigation in Baton Rogue concludes.”

This doesn’t come as a total surprise. Chip Kelly said Collins wasn’t on Philadelphia’s draft board, but the team did show some interest in him leading up to the draft. Not only did they have him in for a pre-draft visit but they also worked him out privately. Kelly personally attended LSU’s pro day as well.

Collins is free to sign with any team he choose. He won’t be motivated by money due his undrafted free agent status; his potential rookie contract is capped. It could help the Eagles that former LSU player Bennie Logan is seemingly trying to recruit him. It could also help that Collins once said Eagles left tackle Jason Peters is a player who he patterns his game after.

Collins played left tackle at LSU but the Eagles could look to slot him inside as a guard in the NFL. Collins was expected to be a first round pick before this criminal investigation emerged last week. Collins isn’t considered to be a suspect.

Time will tell where Collins lands

paulman
paulman
May 6, 2015 10:56 am
Reply to  daggolden

It will likely not be Philly for Collins
He wants to play close to home (Louisiana) and with some of his other former LSU Teammates if Possible…

1) Dolphins with Jarvis Landry, Center M Pouncey making a big Push and where he could likely be a Day 1 Starter at LT which is where he wants to Play
2) TB Bucs with QB J Winston making a Push for him to go with their other Young Talent and again, where Collins can be a Day 1 Starter at LT
3) Titans, Texans & NO Saints can all use help of a Day 1 Starter at OT whether it’s Left or Right to start out his Career

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 10:59 am
Reply to  paulman

He wants a 3 year guaranteed contract with roster bonus elevators etc. Whatever team puts him in a better situation to get a better contract after year 2-3 is the team he will go to.

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
May 5, 2015 10:53 pm

I am Interested in seeing a year out of Sam Bradford at the helm of this offense.
In 2009 I wanted the eagles to have a bad enough season to draft him in the spring as I was tired of the McNabb/Reid Era and Kolb/Vick did not seem like Great Options. Wanted a new Coach and QB for 2010… Had to wait a few years but now I have both 🙂 Lol

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
May 5, 2015 10:57 pm

If they can convince him to come in they MUST get Collins in here. I would completely understand Wasting money and cutting him if he were later found to be involved with the Murder of two people. I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt and sign him. If he is innocent and sticks with the Eagles this was a fantastic offseason as you basically get a second 1st rounder.

Oldphillyfan
Oldphillyfan
May 5, 2015 11:09 pm

Teams will fall over themselves to get a Legit 1st rounder on the cheap. In the case of the Eagles, it is more than a cheap upgrade, it’s filling a major need after failing in the draft. Let’s hope the combination of Jason Peters, a starting position, blocking for DeMarco Murry and playing for a Chip Kelly and a contender is enough to have him pick Philadelphia.

paulman
paulman
May 6, 2015 11:01 am
Reply to  Oldphillyfan

It’s not happening fellas, La’el Collins wants to go a Team that is close to home and where can compete from Day 1 as a Starting LT and not play inside as a Guard… Its the Dolphins, TB Bucs, Falcons, Saints or Titans with the Bills and Salesmanship of Rex Ryan an outside chance

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
May 6, 2015 11:22 am
Reply to  paulman

please..Peters will be retiring in a year I suspect. I would tell Lael that as soon as Peters is done the left tackle position is his…plus he would get to learn from Peters. Lane is better suited for the RT position. Where did you read Collins wanted to stay close to home?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 11:30 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

La’el Collins said Peters was the guy he patterned his game after.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
May 6, 2015 11:55 am
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

I would use Peters as a selling point..learn from the guy you pattern your game after. Hell…be his roommate during camp.

haveacigar
haveacigar
May 6, 2015 12:27 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

hell yeah– if Collins somehow makes it here… there are some SEC roots here in stoutland and marynowitz

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 1:44 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Stoutland could be key in this HAC very good point.

paulman
paulman
May 6, 2015 1:03 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Which is why Collins wants to Play LT from Day 1 and not learn another Position (Guard) or sit for a Year or Two..
He will be signing with the Dolphins, Bucs, Falcons,Titan or Saints

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 6, 2015 1:24 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

He didn’t Eagle. Paul, is my man, but sometimes get caught in his vision, and is stubborn in moving from that. He never said that.

I don’t agree with E0S EVER, but he is correct when he stated that Collins idol was Jason Peters. Peters to me has one more good year after this one.

The Eagles can also look into drafting his LSU teammate Vadar Alexander to play the Left Guard position in next years draft. He is a 6-5 345 lb road grader.

Biglion821
Biglion821
May 6, 2015 1:32 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Cliff, Vader Alexander is a future perennial pro bowler an absolute monster.

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 6, 2015 2:23 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

I agree Biggie…He also has the aggressiveness, along with the agility that Chip Kelly looks for in his O-Lineman…

Paul, it has been verified by Jeff Mosher, that one of the Lineman that was drafted before the Eagles could take him, that Chip Kelly focused on was Jeremiah Poutasi, who was 6-4 330lbs……FYI

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 1:40 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

I suggest you move along with your subtle shots before I air you out on this blog.

Move along……

paulman
paulman
May 6, 2015 2:15 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

Chip Kelly does not like the Big, Fat OL type …
Alexander at 345lbs does not fit the Chip Kelly Profile
He likes his OL & DL to be long and lean
Why doesn’t anyone listen to me…. Ha

paulman
paulman
May 6, 2015 2:22 pm
Reply to  paulman

For the Record
Jason Peters is signed Thru the 2018 Season and won’t be going anywhere until his Contract Is Up unless the Eagles Cut him first.

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 6, 2015 2:33 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paul, brother I say the longer they have to learn from Jason Peters the better…….

Biglion821
Biglion821
May 6, 2015 3:58 pm
Reply to  paulman

Long and lean like David Molk? Hahaha c’mon paulman stop it, he’ll take them short fat tall lean just as long as they can perform.

paulman
paulman
May 6, 2015 4:05 pm
Reply to  paulman

To Biggy,
David Molk won’t even make the 2015 Roster and was pressed into action last year when Center Kelce went down and the planned back-up Center J Vandevelde was nursing a bad back and recovering from surgery and was out of commission late Summer/Early Fall
Molk gave all he had but he doesn’t have much of a Future in Philly for he doesn’t meet Kelly’s Player/Position Profile

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 6, 2015 2:18 pm
Reply to  IzzellJenkins

You don’t suggest jack to me…….you just move on with your empty threats…….

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 2:26 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Fake Jawan Carters Dad….please get off this site and just stop embarassing yourself with your constant lies and nonsense. No one cares or believes…

Hell even Jawan Carter doesnt care….lmao and Jaylen Brown says youre a liar too…

Oh the internet….when you can make up lies…and get your lies unearthed with just a click of a mouse.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 2:28 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Now go tell us how you had another heart attack…and beg Jeff Kolsky to ban me too….or go after Z or anyone else who doesnt listen to your endless bullshit lies and calls you out on them.

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 6, 2015 2:43 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

You mean all you who bring up the same bull under different profiles???

….Why should I sweat, and worry about whether YOU believe, or not who may children are??….and that includes all of your phony profiles….

Keep your empty threats to yourself, and talk sports. I told you that YOU will never know the story behind that – even with the click of your mouse – It is what it is……

Stop being jealous, and hating, and YOU just move on….when I asked Jeff to ban E0S; I was talking about you, and all the rest of your profiles…..All I hear is YOU calling me a liar in those forms of yourself………..Who cares about what you think??

I know that you, and those profiles are the ONLY ones that will speak on those subjects constantly; because you’re one in the same. Kiss my ass

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 2:51 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

In lying about yourself….you couldnt even find the right information about Jawan Carter so you made up a lie. Its posted below….except he never worked for Nike…I spoke to him directly…how? I found him on LinkedIn….hes a District Manager Trainee for Hertz……….

gmcliff
April 22, 2015 – 5:10 am

I have 4 boys

My Oldest played for St Joes his freshman year, and transferred to University of Delaware. He Graduated a few years ago, and is currently working for Nike in some marketing capacity in Chicago.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 2:51 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Just look up Jawan Carter Delaware LinkedIn…..

BUSTED……DONT EVER POST YOUR LIES AGAIN…..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 2:54 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Jaylen Browns mother is MECHALLE….not MIchelle….lmao

His dad Marselles….he has a brother….

His name is Quenton and he played football at UCF. I talked to Jaylen on Twitter…..

His exact response “Man another one of these fools that says they knew me to tell blogs what school I’m going to…” I did that before he picked a school….

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 2:56 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

You should of just kept at EOS and left me Z and anybody else you were paranoid with out of it.

FRAUD.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 3:00 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

You wanted EOS banned by Jeff Kolsky because he kept poking at you and was the only one that kept harping on your obvious lie. If you noticed no one really kept bringing it up because it was so outrageous of a lie no one cared…..

But when your pathological….you cant help yourself…..

YOU PLAYED YOURSELF BADLY.

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 6, 2015 3:26 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

No you played yourself…..LinkedIn doesn’t provide updated information, especially if they are no longer associated with Linkedin. He did work there – his junior year in college -…..get your facts straight….

I KNEW you were posting as Concrete Marley when you first asked that question to me about his mothers name. That’s not even her first name, and it is how you spell it. I’ve noticed a few reports that have spelled it differently – but they are wrong, and so are you…..What is her first name??…I know….do you??

Your a liar about speaking to my son Jaylen as well.

I’ve been through this with you before when you went on bantering about how you contacted the contractors about my development having a certain amount of Bedrooms, and bathrooms as Eagles0Superbowls, and lying about that while I live in what it is………just looking for something to make it seem like you have some insight while you have none….

Your the lying fraud, and you’ve been exposed

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
May 6, 2015 3:41 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

LOL, wait I’m Concrete Marley too?
I’m everyone on this site.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 4:26 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

YOU PLAYED YOURSELF LYING ASS FOOL.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 4:27 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

BUSTED.POINT.BLANK.PERIOD

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 4:37 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Dont misdirect you lying ass fraud. No one cares about your house etc…just like we didnt care about your fake sons.

Except you do…and played yourself….lmao

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 4:38 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

LMAO YOU PLAYED YOURSELF…GOT CAUGHT BY LINKEDIN.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 4:40 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Oh so lets talk about Jaylens real dad Marselles…you know the real dad who is 6’11 played a little basketball is a boxer….

LMAO YOU PLAYED YOURSELF.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 4:55 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Now go do your classic misdirection…claim everybody is someone else….then try and pull in people into your nonsense etc…

LinkedIn lmao

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 6, 2015 5:03 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

And again all I hear is talk from IzzellJenkins, with no proof – as usual – Bantering talking about an outdated LinkedIn profile, and talk about my sons stepfather, and trying to save face because he didn’t have his facts straight.

But I do know you are Concrete_Marley, Invinvertius, Canttakeitanymore, Zilents44, ChipsEgo, and Eagles0Superbowls….

what gave it away was your question about how his mothers name was spelled:

concrete_marley
April 23, 2015 – 8:22 am

With all due respect Cliff this sounds kinda like BS. You’re saying that you are the father of two HS All Americans of the same age? Two kids that I have never heard were related and I cover HS ball for a living. There is plenty of info out there about who these kids parents are and none of them sound like you. You didn’t even spell Jaylen’s mom’s name correctly. Please elaborate on this as I would definitely like to do a story on you if indeed you are their father……..

Your full of crap trying to deflect from the bullcrap you’ve been spewing for months….

Your screaming fraud result from your not having anything of substance……….YOU HAVE NOTHING, AND YOU KNOW IT… Stop being jealous, because you balls don’t have what it takes to pro create anything elite….

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 5:07 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

BUSTED YOU LYING ASS FRAUD…..BUSTED.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 5:08 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Typical GMCLiff misdirection post when caught in another of his lies.

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 6, 2015 5:11 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Then you hypocritical ass always tries to keep his other profiles in the loop to try to throw people off of the fact it’s you.

eagles0superbowls
April 22, 2015 – 6:51 pm

IzzellJenkins- did you read what GMCliff wrote today? He is claiming he is the father of the #2 ranked NCAA basketball recruit and also a top 50 NCAA basketball recruit also who is going to Oregon…

You can’t help yourself. You’re a jealous bastard. You will never know the story, and answer my question about Jaylen’s mothers first name…..You’re a lying, deceitful asshole.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 5:13 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

IP addresses dont lie. ONLY LYING ASS GMCLIFF DOES.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 5:13 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

BUSTED YOU LYING ASS FRAUD.

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 6, 2015 5:14 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Busted on what??…..your bantering???…..Negro please….

Keep trying. I’m still waiting for proof…

and stop lying about talking to my sons – because they are completely aware of who I am…

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 5:15 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

LMAO YOU PLAYED YOURSELF.

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 6, 2015 5:19 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

If you have a problem with that..LOL!!

Then that’s your problem…

and you, and I know you won’t answer my question – ala E0S – WHEN HE DOESN’T HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON – Because you have zero ammunition – so you lean on calling me names in hopes someone believes you….Lying fraud….

I’ll let you talk. I’m going to call my sons…..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 5:21 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Another bring up another persons name misdirection post. Classic GMCliff.

zilents44
zilents44
May 6, 2015 5:38 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Cliff you are a sad individual I hope you get help, I would like it if you stop bringing me up with these profiles situation…..JEFF KOLSKY IF YOU SEE THIS SHIT THE ONLY ONE YOU SHOULD BAN IS GMC, HE CLEARLY THINKS THAT ME IZELL EOS AND SEVERAL OTHERS AND EVERYBODY KNOWS HE IS LYING LIL BITCH

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 5:39 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Preach Z.

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 7, 2015 7:03 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Awwwww…..is the multiple profile man pissed because his research has gotten him nowhere, and reality still is what it is????

Don’t come to me with weak research like that about any step parents, adoptive parents, or former places of employment, and think you’ve proven anything…

I have the child support payment receipts, and copies of the birth certificates – and there is NOTHING you can say to change that

No one would be that offended, if they weren’t who I say they were, and notice it’s ALWAYS the same 3…..and as I told you before, name calling doesn’t bother me……You seem more bothered, that I’m not bothered……..and that’s your problem

Keep Digging, and keep trying……There is nothing you will find to support your claims you jealous bastard.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 7, 2015 8:14 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Fake Jawans Carter dad is talking. I wonder why you haven’t yelled for Kolsky to ban us. I mean we are talking about your “son”….I know why…because if they look at the profiles it’s anxiously not the same people lmao.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 7, 2015 8:17 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Another of your theories shot to shit. Hertz Rent A Car 2015-present.

BUSTED LIAR.

Learn how to use the Internet properly.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 7, 2015 8:25 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Got Eeem…..Got Eeeeeeeeeem

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
May 7, 2015 9:25 am
Reply to  gmcliff

IzzellJenkins – he has a twitter ( @chefcwjr) and a linkedin ( C Wayne Dorsey Jr) page too —

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 7, 2015 7:47 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Right E0S. and neither is up to date, because just like my son, I don’t use either anymore…..

I have a friend who moved to South Carolina, and her information is still showing current, and she hasn’t worked at the places displayed in over 8 years…

Sorry, I know you want to hang on to that but information is inaccurate, because it isn’t current…….and he is still my son

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 7, 2015 9:23 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Your hole is dug….stop digging. Only someone who doesn’t know how to use a tool like LinkedIn would say something as dumb as you just did.

Busted.

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 7, 2015 9:35 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Your boring me….Is there anything further you’d like to get wrong???

There is nothing you can say or do to change reality. It is what it is accept it….and get over it

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
May 7, 2015 10:12 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

Which son Cliff?
Are you as interested as I am for the Cal Berkley and Oregon men’s basketball 2015-16 schedules to be released?

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 7, 2015 10:18 pm
Reply to  gmcliff

EOS leave it be. He played himself badly.

gmcliff
gmcliff
May 8, 2015 8:08 am
Reply to  gmcliff

Your one in the same you lying jackass. Stop playing YOURSELF….

Remember I was the one that told you it was going to be Michigan, or Cal, when you were mentioning Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina, and Duke…

This is a mute issue to talk to one guy with multiple profiles, and a jealous hate that has NO CLUE how stupid he is to try to tell another man who his children are…

YOU!! get some help. This conversation about my sons is over, and I would appreciate from this point on into the future E0S, if you wouldn’t make homosexual innuendos using my sons name……you jealous bastard..

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 8, 2015 8:15 am
Reply to  gmcliff

EOS can do his own thing. If I wanted I would post Jawan Carters office number at Hertz. But that kid doesn’t deserve nonsense because of a pathological liar online.

If notice….NO ONE IS DEFENDING YOU. Lmao they hope you would just shut the fuck up about.

Now go lie some more…and don’t forget to ask Kolsky about those IP addresses before you try and get me banned lmao.

haveacigar
haveacigar
May 6, 2015 11:36 am

lesean mccoy is at it again… the dude can’t let it go…somebody needs to tell him he’s a bill. the reporters are playing him like a fiddle…

Biglion821
Biglion821
May 6, 2015 12:06 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Shady can say whatever he wants he doesn’t play here anymore but it’s obvious he has issues with the LLCB, funny thing is LLCB never uttered one word about wanting a one cut runner but everyone else has, but Shady is firing shots right at Chippy.

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
May 6, 2015 4:08 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Like I said…

I just want McCoy to keep talking…it’s hella entertaining. I’m enjoying every minute of it. Dude is SALTY ’bout how they handled his exit.

I once told a guy friend he’d have a lot less woman trouble if he’d just stop being a Dick. Like walk folk to the door, send a quick text to see if they made it home okay…simple shit.

But nope…he was always a Dick and he ALWAYS had woman trouble for it. This drama with McCoy reminds me of that. All Chip had to do was show him a little courtesy and let him know he was going to be traded. And he wouldn’t have had shit to say later.

But now LLCB (lol) was a DICK and now McCoy is acting lie the woman scorned.

It is all SOOOOO entertaining. lol

Biglion821
Biglion821
May 6, 2015 4:37 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

LOL and he won’t be the last one because Chippy thinks he’s bulletproof.

IzzellJenkins
IzzellJenkins
May 6, 2015 5:18 pm

“My son Jawan works in marketing for Nike”….Jawan on LinkedIn….I work for Hertz Rent A Car….2015 to the present….BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA