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sanchezChip Kelly Is An Absolute Disgrace

For the second straight week, Chip Kelly’s miserable offense actually managed to get off to a fast start.

The Eagles began the game with a very efficient drive, marching right down the field for 86 yards on seven plays, capped off by a beautiful 39-yard catch and run by Josh Huff to put the Birds up 7-0.

And then, the bottom fell out.

Billy Davis and his defense were completely outmatched by Jameis Winston and the Tampa offense, allowing big play after big play on their way to getting torched for 28 points in the first half alone.

Meanwhile, the offensive guru’s fast-paced scheme went into the tank, generating just seven points in the rest of the half while at one point punting on four straight possessions.

All year long, the Philadelphia Eagles have played poorly.

There have been constant mental mistakes, errors, and penalties.

There have been numerous turnovers. There have been countless three and outs.

Most of all, there has been a painful lack of creativity in the offense. Week to week, its the same stale plays. The swing passes to DeMarco Murray’s. The zone runs. The dinks and dunks.

The wide receivers still aren’t doing anything. And the head coach will continue to deny that there’s a problem as the guys that he spent first, second, and third round picks on continue to be nothing more than average.

I haven’t seen a single new wrinkle, unique formation, or anything remotely innovative (or far that matter effective) all season long. Wasn’t Chip Kelly billed as some brilliant offensive mind that was supposed to revolutionize the game?

Good lord, I don’t see it. And what’s more, I don’t see it getting better.

More and more, Chip Kelly is proving to be exactly what I feared him to be when he first arrived in 2013. A gimmicky coach, with a flawed system, and an overinflated ego.

This uptempo, fast-paced offense isn’t something that is going to work in this league. Seriously, there’s absolutely nothing special about this system, and its time that we accept that.

This scheme is the like an NBA team that tries run a lot and score on the fast break. Those NBA teams rely on speed, athleticism, and finesse to create mismatches and get a leg up on their opponents. However, when it comes time to bear down and play a traditional half-court offense, those athletic teams struggle to match up, and the gimmicky style of attack only carries them so far.

The same is true of Kelly’s offense. Time and time again, its been proven that it doesn’t work against the better defenses in this league. Chip’s offense has only been able to put up numbers on mediocre teams. Richard Sherman said it best a year ago when Seattle came to down and dominated Kelly’s attack: “It’s a very basic offense”.

This is not a product that’s going to improve over time, its only going to get further exposed. Now the only question is how long will it be before Jeffrey Lurie comes to that realization and does what needs to be done?

Quick Thoughts

Offense

  • DeMarco Murray began the game by fumbling a ball away, but fortunately the Eagles actually managed to force a second fumble on the play, and recovered. He played a a very disinterested, “for who, for what” kind of game.
  • Today marked just the first time Darren Sproles had caught a touchdown pass as a member of an Eagle. That speaks just to how egregiously Chip Kelly has misused the talented running back during his time in Philadelphia.
  • Mark Sanchez started out the day decent enough, but crumpled as the game went on. Sanchez threw a key interception at the end of the half that denied the Eagles an opportunity for points, and tossed a miserable pick-six to Lavante David when the game was well out of hand.
  • Matt Tobin was beat badly by Gerald McCoy for a sack in the first quarter.
  • At least Brent Celek showed up. Seven catches for 79 yards.
  • Miles Austin was good for another drop, and an illegal substitution penalty. Seriously, why is he still on this roster?
  • And Chip’s hand-picked receivers? Nelson Agholor, 3 catches for 11 yards. Jordan Matthews, four grabs for 13.

Defense

  • What happened to the Eagles’ once great run-defense? Doug Martin gashed the Eagles for nearly 200 yards by halftime, including a 58-yard run on a third and one, and an 84-yard scamper, both setting up Tampa touchdowns.
  • The team also gave up a critical fourth and one first-down run to Martin before the end of the half, setting up Tampa’s fourth touchdown.
  • Of course, the pass defense wasn’t much better. Winston tore them to shreds in the first half, throwing for four touchdown passes.
  • Nolan Carroll had easily his worst game as an Eagle, getting beat for three touchdowns and also looking particularly feeble trying to bring down Doug Martin during his 84 yard run.
  • Former Eagle Russel Sheperd caught one of the four first-half touchdowns.
  • On Tampa’s opening drive in the third quarter, the Bucs were faced with a 3rd and 16, however the Eagles’ defense allowed them to convert.
  • On the same drive, the Eagles got the Bucs backed up into a 2nd and 20, and again allowed the Bucs to convert.
  • The drive capped with Winston’s fifth touchdown pass, a drive that took 10 minutes off of the clock.
  • Haven’t seen anything positive from Kiko Alonso. This team really misses Jordan Hicks.

Special Teams

  • Nice play by Darren Sproles in the first quarter to lay out Tampa gunner Mike Jenkins on a punt. With the ball not returnable, Sproles delivered a blow to Jenkins and denying him a chance to down the ball inside the 20.

Final Thoughts

Two straight home games against a couple of mediocre teams, and Chip Kelly’s Eagles respond with two miserable let downs.

But this week, they didn’t even pretend to be competitive.

Kelly entered the day with the silly idea of improving to 5-5 and moving into first place in the division, but once again the coach couldn’t deliver.

They now sink further towards the NFC East basement at 4-6, with a looming match against a Lions team that has gritted out a winning streak against some decent teams in the Oakland Raiders and Green Bay Packers.

Don’t even talk about the ridiculous notion that the Eagles are “still in it”. This is bad, poorly coached football team with deep-rooted issues. Things may only get worse from here.

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BigE
BigE
November 22, 2015 5:05 pm

Chip Kelly as I said before belongs in college coaching. He is a poor judge of talent in drafting. Josh Huff is stupid. Mark Sanchez is horrible as are the receivers and offensive line. The play calling is putrid both on offense and defense. Lourie keeps making poor decisions. Get some NFL people who can coach and draft. Get rid of Howie and Chip. It’s going to take more than one draft to fix this team and with Kelly that may never happen. All of Kelly’s changes have made the Eagles one of the worst teams in the league.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
November 22, 2015 5:07 pm

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paulman
paulman
November 22, 2015 6:39 pm

I am on record since last week that the Eagles will not Win a Game the remainder of the 2015 Season leaving Owner Jeff Lurie with some defeinite decisions to make concerning Chip Kelly..
Does he simply fire him and pay him almost $14 Million over the next 2 Years not to Coach? Very Doubtful..
I think Lurie forces Kelly to make Coaching Staff Changes (Billy Davis, OL Coach & WR Coach all have to go)
Lurie may also make Kelly give up his GM/Player Personnel Authority and strictly Focus on putting a better Staff and Game Plans and simply back to focusing on Coaching and allow another Person to “Buy the Groceries” so to speak .. Maybe that’s Ed Marynowitz, maybe someone new from the outside or evenHowie Roseman from behind the scenes though I don’t believe Chip Kelly could work under that arrangement …
With the Eagles 4-6 and Playing a fired up and confident Luons Team on Thanksgiving which is like their Super Bowl, I expect the Eagles to fall to 4-7 with another NFC Conference loss making them 3-6 in NFC Conference Games meaning they have no chance for a wild-card spot as too many Teams are ahead of them..
At this point with a 10 Day Break before the Patriots Games and the Final 5 Games of the Season I believe we will see changes and some older Players released and more playing time for some of the younger Players as well as possible changes among the Coaching Staff which is hard to do this late in the Season..
Veteran Players like Peters, Ryans, Austin, Sproles are very likely playing their Final Games as Eagles and we will likely see younger Players activated and getting more Playing Time..
One thing I am pretty sure about is that there will be a lot of activity, Drama & Rumors coming out of NovaCare
In the end, Chip Kelly bit off more than he could handle in a single Off-Season and the lesson here should be not to attempt replacing 10-11 Starters including your Secondary and Offensive Backfield in the same off-Seadon and especially not making any acquisitions to the OL via Free-Agency and or the Draft for 2 Years Ina Rown now which is just plain stupid, stupid, stupid…
You cannot rely of making Starters out of un-Drafted OL and hope you find a diamond in the rough.. You have to invest in Top Talent along the OL and thenCoach them up as a cohesive, versatile group as the good Teams do..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 22, 2015 7:16 pm

Listening to Matt Lombardo on 97.5 the fanatic. He said today was the first time in the locker room he heard players openly question Chip Kelly’s plan and Chip the coach. #Culture means nothing when you lose. He is losing this team and shuttling in and out players will not correct the problem.

deserteagle
deserteagle
November 22, 2015 7:40 pm

Why didn’t the team compete?What is the underpinning of that erosion in the cultural experiment that has now gone wrong?Mark Sanchez completely has no heart and brains.Why did chip overvalue that as a a commodity? Sam ? Trading a non conditional 2nd (which now is a plum ) Kiko? Matthews as a number one receiver? Murray as a feature back ? Agholor starting ..?Many of “his guys” let him down by week 10.What compelled him to wear all the hats? And fail so miserably? He has competed against AR and is trending backwards .Perhaps those shoes were too big..He retained a sub par defensive coordinator with a trend towards respectability ,only to completely be dismantled by a rookie QB and a back not named Hayley Sayers ,that looked like him..Why did they quit ? What’s really going on here ?

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
November 22, 2015 9:01 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

Kelly has to take the blame…one can question the players he brought in but the real question marks are surrounding players that have been here…today the Eagles were manhandled by Tampa Bay’s offensive line…it was humiliating

The front seven was supposed to be a strength of the defense

The team is down 21-14…we just scored…

Tampa goes on a 80 yard drive where we cant get off the field

To open up the second half, we cant get the offense on the field because again we are getting manhandled up front.

The major problems of this team this year has been in the trenches where we have lost…we lost in Miami despite good QB play because the offensive line got dominated and the defense could not make timely plays

This week our front seven gets manhandled…the Eagles have no spark no fire…

This falls on the Coach and gives credence to something that Cary Williams was saying last year…the Coaches ‘training regiment’ wears the players out…

I dismissed Williams last year…it makes sense now…

The Coach is losing the team

paulman
paulman
November 22, 2015 9:49 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Many of those long runs up the gut were poorly played by #59 DeMeco Ryans who should retire. Watch the Replays and see how poorly he’s caught out of position and the does not have the quickness to make up for a poor read or angle .. Get Ryans off the Field…

E-money
E-money
November 22, 2015 7:40 pm

They’re still in it.

Things went south quickly for Kelly here. Ray Rhodes had two 10 and 6 seasons, followed by 6 and 10, 3 and 13, and out the door.
It has that kind of feel right now.

deserteagle
deserteagle
November 22, 2015 7:49 pm

How many piss poor personnel decisions can one guy make ? I’m including Maxwell as a poor decision on a business and personnel scope.Every high injury risk player has drank the sport science drinks while rehabbing.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 22, 2015 7:56 pm

OK. Just home.

First off the Redblacks won the Eastern FInal and are headed to the rey Cup – so I am happy.

But….

I wasn;t able to make it home sans knowledge of the game. About 15 people I knew kept coming up to tell me the news. Fuck hand held technology. 45-17???

Holy shit.

So I am about to watch the game on PVR and apparently its going to be a disaster.

Kool, Songs, and other Kelly apologists…..I am going to unleash on you apologists fucknuts in about 2 hours.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
November 22, 2015 11:30 pm

oh boy…i’m shaking in my boots

Please, Vinniedalosing ass lame

Your a hypocrite..a lame ass who always contradicts yourself

“I hated every single offseason move and was right about each and every one of them.”

Bullshit…that’s not the description you gave of the move…you claimed getting Bradford was a ‘win’ for you since he’s not a mobile QB that would scramble around

“Now Bradford is here and I am all good. I though they gave up too much in the trade, that’s true, but I am fine.
Eagles have a tall, immobile pocket-passer running the show. No stupid scrambler. Foles, Bradford. Don’t care really as long as he’s not running around like a scrambling idiot.”

But now…fast forward…the Eagles aren’t doing well:

“I hated every single offseason move…”

Flip-flopping, ducking and dodging…

I’m fine with Bradford…back then…”I hate every move” Now..

Flip-Flop

Yup…you are ready to “unleash”…another torrent of delusional flip-flopping to get us all dizzy

lame ass Vinniedafool!

Everz11
Everz11
November 22, 2015 8:09 pm

Again, Kelly is a college coach which is why I so much wanted Gus Bradley from the onset. This Eagles team is soft as marshmallow, finesse on both sides of the ball. The whole league knows it and plays two tight end smash mouth, play action offense, sprinkle in some downhill defense and this team folds. What a complete joke. Two ten wins seasons “weren’t Good enough” so he replaces half the players that won those games and than denies making wholesale changes. The only bright spot I see is after Detroit embarrasses them on Thursday, an interim coach can get 3 extra days to prepare to close out the season. Think of how nice that second round pick we gave up for the privilege of witnessing this disaster will be in the spring (mid thirties) I’d guess. Pathetic.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 22, 2015 9:08 pm

I told you 3 weeks ago that the “improved” defense was only an illusion because they had played a litany of terrible offenses and quarterbacks.

I hated every single offseason move and was right about each and every one of them.

This team is a complete mess created by a guy who is always in “WIN NOW” mode and has absolutely no long term vision of how to build a franchise.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
November 22, 2015 9:54 pm

Bullshit Vinniedafool

“I hated every single offseason move and was right about each and every one of them.”

You “hated” every oft-season move…but you were the guy who told us back in March:

“I don’t have a problem with the McCoy deal. From what I understand there was a little more going on behind the scene with McCoy (and with Desean too). A little eye roll during a film meeting. The odd barley perceptible “sigh”. A well placed “couch” when Kelly was at the podium….from what I’ve been told there was a little of that going on….nothing overt….but there.”

Now…presto…suddenly you “hated every single offseason move…” and you was “right” about each and every one of them.”

You guys kill me with the ‘flip-flopping’ and lying

You never want to stand like a man behind what you state…you want hit and run…duck and dodge..

Vinniedaloser tells us in March:

“So a guy like that’s gotta go. So no problem with that trade. Lets cross our fingers that Alonzo works out.”

But today…You just “hated” all of the oft-season moves..

You are full of shit, Vinniedafool…busted again!

Everz11
Everz11
November 22, 2015 10:54 pm

The normal trajectory is you win 10 games in consecutive seasons and add to that successful nucleus. Keep shady, Maclin (who cares if you overpay- rather overpay a proven performer in your system than someone Iike gutless maxwell) and foles and draft an o-lineman in the 1st ,you could still get Rowe and hicks and add o-line depth and pass rush in the later rounds. Iupati was out there for all to sign and they passed on him too (he’s too physical). There’s no way staying the course and building onto what you aleady had would be anywhere close to as bad as the slop chip has compiled here. Now we get to start all over again when Laurie finally concedes this colossal mistake.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 22, 2015 11:19 pm

Chipper is in Trouble –
The empty stadium is a bad omen –
Jeff Lurie is a very patient man until he sees disinterested fans on game day in his house.
Shady McCoy next up at the Linc after Thanksgiving Detroit away game.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 23, 2015 12:27 am

Nick Foles had a record of 6-2 last season –
I’m not sure the combined effort of Bradford & Sanchez will equal 6 wins total this season.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
November 23, 2015 12:49 am

EOS…spare me…the continuous whining about Nick Foles is nauseating!

Foles stunk he was leading the league in turnovers

He was consistently missing open receivers

6-2 record had very little to do with Nick Foles…we won in spite of Foles with special teams and defense scoring points…bailing the ineffective offense out!

Foles stinks…which is why we got rid of him

Foles stinks…which is why Fisher benched his ass and will probably cut him

Bottom line..Foles is gone, done, and finished as a starting QB in this league

Get over it!

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 23, 2015 7:33 am
Reply to  koolbreeze

No Excuses!,
Bradford / Sanchez combo has to win 10 games.

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 23, 2015 12:56 am

Chip Kelly needs to go, where is all that in Chip we trust shit? Told this damn site 3 years ago this asshat only values his system. This dickhead actually thinks you can plug and play in the NFL. I am pissed beyond words, what was that smartass comment last year? System over talent any day boys, well take a look that team he made that comment about is UNDEFEATED meanwhile we’re left with this shit. On another note Winston is the real deal Mariota is losing games to the Jags. Foles/Bradford/Sanchez cannot win with that shit, like I said the LLCB completely dicked the entire NFL over and you cats all bought the shit he was selling.

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 23, 2015 7:16 am
Reply to  Biglion821

Let me correct myself the quote on the sideline was culture beats talent any day. How’s that damn culture doing today?

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 23, 2015 7:43 am
Reply to  Biglion821

The ultimate test of culture is like what Chip said about the QB, it’s like putting a tea bag in hot water. Well, this teams culture is proving to not be good due to losing, and losing is the hot water, it is a losing culture. Talent trumps scheme and culture, it also trumps a pompous, foolhardy, overmatched, fast talking, snake oil salesman shyster, Barney Rubble looking LLCB coach who is getting his ass handed to him on a silver platter. He’s gotta go!!!

Rhino
Rhino
November 23, 2015 1:12 am

Man!!!.. Enough of this. Bradford stinks..Foles stinks..Sanchez stinks..Kelly stinks..Eagles stink….Stink stink stink!!!!! Do i have everything covered??

Biglion821
Biglion821
November 23, 2015 7:13 am
Reply to  Rhino

Yes.

daggolden
daggolden
November 23, 2015 6:03 am

Kiko Alonso killed the Eagles yesterday. I never saw a ILB go low to take out a Olineman like he was a db. Are you kidding me. WTF was he doing. Jordan Hicks not being there has killed this defense. Alonso was horrible.

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 7:06 am
Reply to  daggolden

Kiko looked horrible and has not been right since his early season injury and he’s playing at 3/4 speed to protect himself which isn’t helping anyone and probably should have been placed on the IR List..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 23, 2015 7:25 am
Reply to  daggolden

Kiko’s lack of speed is more surprising to me. I don’t know what he entered the NFL with but I do know he has none now. He is too slow to play in the NFL. His lack of speed is so noticeable to me I wouldn’t feel comfortable putting Kiko on special teams. There is nothing there. Kiko Alonso does not reach the minimum speed requirement. He is a turtle.

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 8:30 am

Was damaged good as Chip Kelly was snookered once again in a Trade
Kiko should be IR so at least he has a shot of being healthy next Spring/Summer s he is likely to have a very short NFL Career as I stated when they obtained already having 4 Surgeries (2 ACL, 1 Hip and 1 Shoulder) all by the Age of 24 Years Old… His body is that of a 32 Year Old..
Speed/Explosion was his Game and if he lost that, he’s toast

RB LeSeam McCoy will run 150 Yards on the Eagles as HC Rex Ryan will name him Captain for the Game and will rub in Chipster and the Fans Face all Game Long, there is little doubt about that ….

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 23, 2015 9:05 am
Reply to  paulman

Didn’t Chip call Rex seeking a trade, and Rex offered Alonso.? With the way Alonso played in his rookie season, and for Rex to offer him (Alonso), Chip should have said wait a minute, let me think about this. Rex stated that he could not believe Chip was willing to trade him straight up. Rex was laughing his butt off all the way to he airport to pick Lesean up. Way overmatched. i think Chip said the trade was done in a matter of minutes.

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 9:08 am

Paulman’s NFC Power Rankings

1) Panthers (10-0) – Cam Newton Playing at a Pro–Bowl/MVP Level
2) Cardinals (8-2) – Carson Palmer Playing at Pro-Bowl/MVP Level
3) Packers (7-3) – Bounce Back and Beat Upstart Vikings on the Road
4) Vikings (7-3) – Disappointing Game at Home, Injuries along the OL starting to pile up which doesn’t bode well moving forward
5) Seahawks (5-5) – Getting back to Basics with Ground & Pound with 5th String Undrafted RB Rawls…
6) TB Bucs (5-5) – Winners of 2 in a Row, Defense is Creating Turnovers & QB J Winston has been playing better and better as Season has gone along

The Bottom 5
Eagles,Saints,Redskins,49ers & Eagles again as the other Bottom feeders were not expected to do much in 2015 to begin with

Worst Coach in the NFC
Chip Kelly

Worst GM in the NFC
Chip Kelly

greenfan
greenfan
November 23, 2015 9:09 am

As bad a game as I have seen since the last game of the Reid era when the team quit. Can even begin to say how depressing it is to be a longtime fan of this team.

The failure of this team at the end of last season and this season fall squarely on Kelly. Many on here can rightfully claim that they have been calling that for a couple years.

Too many comments to make, but to watch a defense give up 280 rushing yards is unbelievable. Do we have a wide receiver capable of beating a d back? Losing by 21 points late and we still refuse to throw deep, but continue to dink and dunk…pathetic.

Kelly has lost HIS team….and he can talk all that he wants about culture, but when you continue to lose culture goes out the door.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
November 23, 2015 10:21 am

Let me ask a you guys a question:

I have watched football all my life (which is a long time). In all those years I have seen many teams try to come back from a 21 point defects in the fourth quarter, many times.

Never in all my life have I seen a team try to come back from that far behind without once throwing a pass over 20 yards downfield.

I don’t care if you have the worse receivers in the league – you have to throw the ball deep downfeild and hope for an interference call. That is just what you have to do….

I’ve seen Brian Mitchell the Redskins RB forced into action as the quarterback in “The Bodybag Game” – and at the end of the game he was airing-it-out to WRs downfield…. Because that’s what you do…..

I’m I right about that?

deserteagle
deserteagle
November 23, 2015 10:48 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

Irish..you are correct .In order to mount a comeback the hell bent attitude of going for broke must prevail.Its the antithesis ,however ,of pinochipio ,as taht would be tantamount to admission of panic and despair.His whole M.O. Is to look you straight in the eye and tell you he has the talent to compete ,he believes in his guys,he is confident .That and the collegiate Pom Poms have been scattered in the. Wind .The bed checks and sports science have Been collapsing under the weight of complacency.The guys that knew of ARs regime were shown the door ,to be replaced by warm bodies devoid of equal talent ,but ,plugged into Chips systematic approach.Its an abject failure ,and I truly believe he has no plan B.it matters not wether one poster on here or another got this right …it changes nothing to stand on a soapbox and crow how smart you are ..We have had our team dismantled like a used Chevy on broad street ..It’s now up on crates with no transmission and the wheels are long gone..The off season of change has been replaced by the season of discontent ..This experimental lab scientist is the emperor with no clothes ,and a burning laboratory ..He’s been exposed in full view ,as now he’s taking the defensive spirit and extinguished that as well.His own arrogance,has bit himself and now he’s been public ally humiliated ..We all know when a bully is bullied ,he cowers..he doesn’t throw long ,he dinks and slithers away

greenfan
greenfan
November 23, 2015 10:49 am
Reply to  IrishEagle

yes

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 23, 2015 1:47 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

Dude…Redblacks Ti-Cats tied with 1 min to go. After a chop block, its 2nd and 25 for the RBs deep in their own end. Into the wind. Game looked over. never get the 25, and have to punt into the wind right??

So they line up and its soo clear the right WR is in 1-on-1 (why? Who knows, but thank you Hamilton)

Burris sees it (obv) drops back and cranks one down the right sideling. 40 yards into the wind for a jump-ball. Both guys go up, Ellington (wr) comes doewn with it, defender falls to the ground and Ellington scampers 92 for the winning TD.

Grey Cup time.

Sometimes you have to take a shot.

Bradford and Sanchez have never, and will never take that shot. They could see 2003 Randy moss lined up 1-on1 against 2014 Carey Williams and they wouldn’t chuck it.

Not how they’re wired.

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 10:57 am

Not much left to be said about the Eagles Performance the last 2 Weeks..

Here’s a list of the Top OL in the 2016 Draft ….
I believe the Eagles will need to select at least 2 Players from this List
to Rebuild their Declining OL

OT
1) Laremy Tunsil – (Mississippi 6-5 305 lbs) — A Top 5 Pick in the 1st Round
2) Ronnie Stanley – (Notre Dame 6-6 315lbs) – A Top 10 Pick in the 1st Rd
3) Taylor Decker – (Ohio State 6-7 315lbs) – Top 20 Pick in the 1st Round
4) Jack Conklin – (Mich State 6-6 318lbs) – Late 1st Round Pick
5) Germain Ifedi – (Texas A&M 6-5 325lbs) – Late 1st Rounder
6) Jason Spriggs – (Indiana 6-6 305lbs) – 2nd Round Prospect
7) John Theus – (Georgia 6-6 308lbs) – 2nd Round Prospect
8) Kyle Murphy – (Stanford 6-7 310lbs) – 2nd Round Prospect
9) Joe Haeg – (North Dakota State 6-5 300lbs) – 3rd Round Prospect
10) Denver Kirkland – (Arkansas 6-5 330lbs) = 3rd Round Prospect

Guards
1) Cody Whitehair – (Kansas State 6-4 310lbs) – 2nd Round
2) Vadil Alexander – (LSU 6-5 325lb) – 2nd Round
3) Landon Turner – (UNC 6-3 325lbs) – 2nd Round
4) Spencer Drago – (Baylor 6-6 320lbs) – 3rd Round
5) Pat Elfein – (Ohio State 6-3 305lbs) – 3rd Round
6) Greg Pyke – (Georgia – 6-5 315lbs) – 3 Rd Round
7) Christian Westerman – (Arizona State 6-3 305lbs – 3rd/4th Round

Center
1) Dan Voltz – (Wisconsin 6-3 305lbs) – 2nd Round
2) Nick Martin – (Notre Dame 6-4 305lbs) – 2nd/3rd Round
3) Ryan Kelly – (Alabama 6-4 300lbs) – 4th Round
4) Jack Allen – (MIch State 6-2 300lbs) – 5th Round
5) Evan Boehm – (Missouri 6-3 320lbs) – 5th/6th Round

I would love to see the Eagles Select OT Ronnie Stanley in the 1st Round as he would be a Day 1 Starter at RT while Lane Johnson Shifts to LT as Jason Peters Retires, then Select Guard Greg Pyke in the 3rd Round to be the Day 1 Starting RG..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 23, 2015 11:31 am
Reply to  paulman

All true PMan the birds need OL and that is a good plan.
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Very tempting to draft a QB with the 1st rounder.
Birds also have to replace Vinny Curry and Marcus Smith ( 2 bust high draft picks) Giving the team nothing, absolutely nothing. At least Taylor Hart and Beau Allen can give some snaps to rest the starters. Marcus Smith and Vinny Curry are incapable of doing that the talent gap downgrade is too large. Birds need to sign 2 backup edge rushers this off season.

mhenski
mhenski
November 23, 2015 11:24 am

” koolbreeze
November 23, 2015 – 12:49 am
Profile photo of koolbreeze

EOS…spare me…the continuous whining about Nick Foles is nauseating! ”

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THE ONLY PERSON THAT BRINGS UP FOLES IS U YA IDIOT

NOBODY CARES ABOUT FOLES UNLESS ITS IN THE CONTEXT THAT WE GAVE UP A 2ND FOR HIS AWFUL REPLACEMENT. YOU BRING UP FOLES NON STOP

FOLES FOR BREAKFAST
FOLES FOR SNACK
FOLES FOR LUNCH
FOLES FOR SNACK
FOLES FOR DINNER
FOLES FOR DESERY

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT FOLES YOU OBSESSIVE WEIRDO

HE GONE

THE EAGLES ARE DOGSHIT AND YOU OBSESSING ABOUT FOLES LIKE A LUNATIC

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
November 23, 2015 3:00 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Another flip-flopper is back…

I thought you were finished with this site Mhenski

This is what you said after your nasty and racist attack on G Cobb because he objects to your pornography obsessions!

smh…never fails…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 23, 2015 11:56 am

tonight 8:00 pm est in Minnesota. Both teams building through the draft tank plan.
——————————————————————————-
#1 Karl Anthony Towns vs #3 Jahlil Okafor 2015 nba draft.
also
#1 Andrew Wiggins vs # 3 Joel Embiid ( oh scratch) 2014 draft.
# 13 Zach LaVine vs # 11 Dario Saric (oh scratch) 2013 draft.
lets try this then —
#13 Zach LaVine vs # 8 Nik Stauskas
#19 Gorgui Dieng vs # 6 Nerlans Noel
#14 Shabazz Muhammed vs # 11 MCW ( oh maybe a 2017 LA Laker pick)

Everz11
Everz11
November 23, 2015 12:36 pm

Just listened to Chip’s press conference and he solidified how soft this team and his philosophy are. After Huff’s first drive TD he explained that Tampa went exclusively to a Tampa 2 defense, which “took away” his outside receivers. I have never seen a coach get his offense dictated to by a defense so much in my life. Could you imagine Pittsburgh saying, “Uh oh, there in Tampa 2, no more throws to A. Brown or M. Bryant.” Look at Tampa, they said were going double tight end, fullback, one receiver wide and were going to push you around on the ground and after your sucking wind from us pounding you in the run game, here’s a play action pass to a 6’4 receiver that will out-fight you for the football and my QB, nine games into his career will have all the time in the world to process the field. They did it all game and the Eagles couldn’t stop them. They told Chip, “you’ll eat it and you’ll like it”. Meanwhile, Chip says no more throws to the outside, not even a “show me” deep ball and we’ll dink and dunk with Sanchez who was under siege, for the remainder of the game, down by 14 or more points. Got dictated to on both sides of the ball and do every game that a team plays them physical.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 23, 2015 12:42 pm
Reply to  Everz11

Same thing happened to Oregon whenever they went up against a big-time school

patrik411
patrik411
November 23, 2015 12:43 pm

For any pro football team to trade for a head coach the chances are just about Nil. To give up a significantly high draft choice , comes under the heading ,nary a chance to happen!!!

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
November 23, 2015 1:08 pm

There is no more defending this team. Thoughts of playing the numbers and trying to stay alive are pointless.

Perception of what this year means has reverted back to the moment they signed Bradford. The number one goal going into this year was to see if Bradford would be worth making your Franchise QB. That got side tracked once we thought a SB run was possible after that preseason.

He started off sluggish but has come on late. If he continues to improve and get more comfortable than this year will be more successful than the record may show. When Bradford signed and we made all of the moves I thought this was a two year project. I got roped into the need for instant gratification, just like most fans, based on that preseason.

My focus from this point forward will be squarely on Bradford. If he fails down the stretch or sustains another serious injury than the year will be a complete waste.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 23, 2015 1:35 pm

Is he going to sign a one year deal for next year so we can once again “find out” if he’s good (he isn’t)???

He’s a free agent. He’s not going to sign for anything less than a 3 year deal. If the Birds mistakenly re-sign him in another pathetic “win-now!” attempt, then its another 2 years of nothingness with him as the starting QB for 6-10 games each year.

Just roll whoever our 3rd stringer is for the last 6, go 4-12 and grab hold of a top 5 pick. Grab a QB with the #1 pick, and 2 olinemen with the 2 third rounders. Next year take another olineman with the 1st, and another in the 3rd. Next year’s 2nd on a DE.

Pry they all work out and team becomes competitive in 2018.

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 2:32 pm

The Problem Canttakeitanymore is that acquiring Sam Bradford was basically going all in for this Year as there is no guarantee that he’s coming back to begin with even if he remains healthy, in fact, I think he takes the 1st Train out of Philly for another Team instead of remaining in Philly for a lame-duck Coach…
I believe Bradford already Turned down the Eagles Offer on a 3 Year Deal

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
November 23, 2015 3:28 pm
Reply to  paulman

Paul – You can’t believe everything that is reported as a lot of that comes from crap sources and contradicts other reports. Even if it were true, he turned it down because, if I remember correctly, the numbers would not have been top 10 QB money and he was betting on himself. Clearly, he has not played like a top 10 QB and there is no way competing offers will be out there that will pay him as such.

Furthermore, Chip Kelly is not a lame duck coach going into year four. He is on the “hot seat” with fans and media but not Lurie. You don’t give a guy that kind of control if you are not committed to seeing it through.

Finally, considering the teams that will be looking for a QB, we are more attractive or just as attractive than those teams. The only exception is if Denver decides Brok isn’t the guy (although he has always been touted as the Air apparent to Peyton).

The issue will not be Bradford not wanting us, it will be if we want Bradford. That is why I will be watching these last six to see if he is a guy that the Franchise would be willing to commit to.

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 3:46 pm

I don’t believe in everything I read CTIA which is why i make most of my stories up to begin with…but on a semi-serious note, there will be some movement in the NFL with QB’s as there always is.. The Texans & NY Jets, Browns, 49ers & Rams will all have Open QB Spots as well the Broncos for 2016.. The Redskins may have an opening after the Season and there are rumors about Drew Brees moving on from the Saints just as their is about their Coach Sean Payton , so in reality, Same Bradford will have some leverage out in the Market is he chooses ..
Believe me, I don’t think he’s worth it, but chances are, someone in the NFL like the 49ers, Browns Texans or Jets will think that he is …

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
November 23, 2015 3:52 pm
Reply to  paulman

hahahaha – Love the first line. We need some laughter today.

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 4:12 pm

We sure do after the way this Season has gone…
Eagles need to get back to basics and start Winning those 1 on 1 Battles and Build from there.. Scratch this gimmick shit plays out up get back to playing basic, fundamental, physical Football…

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
November 23, 2015 2:18 pm

Okay. The Eagles suck.

But SOMEBODY has to win the NFC East right?

So..this week…we need The Redskins to beat the Giants. And for Dallas to lose to the Panthers and we HAVE to beat the Lions.

That about sums it up.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 23, 2015 2:31 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

After listening to Chip’s press conference this morning, I just can’t stand him anymore. I want him gone. Never mind the NFC East title, if they lose every game for the rest of the season, perhaps Jeff will fire this clown. Jason Peter’s took himself out of the game in the 4th yesterday, the team quit on him. I love my team and will always be an Eagles fan, however, I dislike this head coach/ GM to the point where I would not flinch if they lose the rest of the way through…it was so bad yesterday I laughed when they showed Kelly on the sideline looking like a lost puppy as he had no answer or clue as to how to adjust to what the Bucs were doing. We can no longer say the Eagles should beat this or that team, other fans are saying that about the Eagles..I bet they are saying it in Detroit. This GM/Coach is a joke!!!

tsjohnson5
tsjohnson5
November 23, 2015 2:41 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I don’t disagree with anything you said.

For me at this point it’s just fun to see which hapless NFC East team will win The East and how many wins will actually take to do so.

So top being grumpy. Enjoy the (messy) ride. It is just a game afterall.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 23, 2015 3:21 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

The problem with that short term strategy is the messy ride never stops.

This team has been spinning its wheels in “win now” mode since 2006 and it has to stop.

Only idiot teams continaully pick up other team’s Garbage (Murray let go, bradford let go) overpaying them along the way.

There is no turning the ship around with this constant FA overpaying, wasting draft picks on “skill positions” and guys with “upside”

There is no turning the ship around.

You have to sink the ship and build a new one.

Look at Minnesota with 8 first rounders over the past 4 years. They’re not quite good enough yet, but they’re trending. The fanbase can see that and enjoy that ride upwards.

The fucking Jags picking 5th, 2nd, 3rd and 3rd in the past 4 drafts…every round….its a slow painful process…..the result….a team with the youngest offence in the league filled with promising young guys like Yeldon, Bortles, Robinson..

Will it work out for them? No one knows….but there’s promise there. Excitement. Potential.

What do the Eagles do??

Throw away 2nd round picks on other teams garbage.
Sign 500 carry backs.
Attempt to sign 30 year old backs.
Sign Miles Austin for GD sakes!!!
Overpay for 19 start backup CBs

All of these desperation “win now” moves.

No vision. No plan. No nothing.

“Win the NFC East” Eagles just lost back to back to the Dolphins and Bucs!!! At Home!!

Give it a rest.

This ship needs to be sunk post haste. Hit the damn reset button. Sell off any and all assets for picks.

1 – Win no more games this year. Grab a top 5 pick. Cringe when STL drafts a good player at 5 in the second, but move on. Top 3 picks all Oline.

2 – Roll with Sanchez all next year to 2-14 Top 3 pick every round.
Pick a QB with the #1. Take more O and Dline with other high picks.

3 – Start rookie Qb and roll to another shitty 3-13 record. Double down on oline, but begin thinking about upgrading “skill positions” in round 3-7.

4 – Struggle to a 5-11 record in rookie’s 2nd year. Time to draft the “shutdown CB” oand add a RB “high” in the draft.

5 – Hopefully enjoy 5 year window of making playoffs and running to SB before $150 million new QB contract fucks the team and the cap. Add 1 or 2 veteran free agents if and only if team is legitimately a strong playoff contender.

That’s it. Its slow, and its painful….but its the only way.

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
November 23, 2015 3:47 pm

Vinnie – That way doesn’t necessarily work. Look at the SB winners since the year 2000. Very few of those teams took the bottom out/high draft pick approach. Looking at the list I would say Indy and Seattle are the only two that fit your strategy. The rest were average teams that suddenly found their QB and took off (Giants, NE, Pitts, New Orleans, Baltimore, etc.).

That’s why determining if Sam Bradford is the guy is so important. Maybe you guys end up being right and he is terrible. But maybe I’m right and he is trending in the right direction. A franchise QB suddenly minimizes the rest of your issues.

This isn’t the NBA where middle of the pack is the worst place to be. In the NFL you can turn your fortune quickly.

Finally, most of the teams that try the bottom out method end up going through multiple coachs and GMs because there is no patience. Then you end up like Cleveland.

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 4:04 pm

Its not “Where” you Draft, but “Who” you Draft..
The Eagles don’t have an Real Identity under Chip Kelly

Look at Teams like the Steelers, Ravens, Packers, & Patriots who pick in the last 10-12 Positions every Draft but somehow remain competitive almost every Year and now you can add in the Seahawks, Panthers on the NFC Side as well as the Bengals from the AFC in recent Years.. What does these Teams have, Stable Coaching Staffs, Competent Front Office with GM’s & Player Personnel Depts that know who to Draft based on Talent and Players that best fit their Scheme and Locker Room and since these Teams are Good just about every Season, these Teams are not forced to Play Rookies or 2nd Year Players who are not ready to play yet and get to learn behind Good Veteran Players to learn their Craft and learn what it means to be a Professional and a Winner in the NFL ..

GM Ozzie Newsome knows what kind of Players that John Harbaugh wants
GM George Reese know what kind of PLayer that Tom Coughlin wants
GM Kevin COlbert knows what kind of PLayer Mike Tomlin wants
GM Ted Thompson knows what kind of Player Mike McCArthy wants

GM/HC Bill Belicheck know which Kind of PLayers to Draft bvased on Versatility, Smarts, Future Position of Needs and he always Drafts from the Position of Strength that that Draft Class has in a given Year..
1 Year he goes heavy with OL for that’s the strength of the Draft
the Next is DB’s, then it’s LB’s or RB’s ..

Eagles never seem to have a concerted, coordinated Draft Plan since Tom Modrack was forced out by Andy Reid in the 2000’s

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
November 23, 2015 4:47 pm
Reply to  paulman

Completely agree Paul. Its all about having a good staff making the picks. However, what do all of those organizations have in common…once they got their franchise QB then went from average to very good/great and all other issues became minimal (Flacco, Eli, Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben).

The point I’m making is that this year is now completely dedicated to seeing whether Bradford can be a Franchise QB. If he is, then the year was not an entire waste and the other problems (Not drafting an O-line, having a young WR core with washed up vets, etc) wont seem to be as much an issue. They can address some in the off season and others will begin to (hopefully) resolve with time – Nelson A.

haveacigar
haveacigar
November 23, 2015 4:18 pm

Did you just say Bradford is trending up and may be the guy? That is a knee slapping joke, right????? It has to be! Kind of like the guy on here yesterday who actually claimed that Sanchez ran the offense well…. Yikes!

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
November 23, 2015 4:43 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Not at all. I saw the issues yesterday just like everyone else. Bradford IS trending the right direction. If he is trending fast enough is an entirely different discussion. Anyone that has watched sees that in the last three games he has looked more comfortable in the pocket and in this system. Considering how he was playing in the beginning of the year, that means he is trending in the right direction.

haveacigar
haveacigar
November 23, 2015 5:02 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

You have to be jidding

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
November 23, 2015 5:30 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

I don’t jid.

He was playing awful the beginning of the year and has played his best three game stretch at Carolina, at Dallas, and home v. Miami. Considering he was awful early and playing his best ball late that means the arrow is going up. May not be going up fast enough or significantly enough for you but up, nonetheless. Gcobb doesn’t allow me to draw charts for you so I’m not sure how to explain it any better.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
November 23, 2015 5:57 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Over those 3 games the “uptrending” Bradford was a amazing

70 of 117 (59%) for 736 yrds 2 tds 1 int and 4 fumbles.

That isn’t “trending upwards”

That sucks.

Canttakeitanymore
Canttakeitanymore
November 23, 2015 6:04 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

The “fumbles” were strip sacks and I don’t think any where lost. Can’t really pin that on Bradford.

Gotta go inside the numbers for once there my friend. That Carolina game was much better than the numbers based on 7+ clear drops against a top defensive unit.

haveacigar
haveacigar
November 23, 2015 6:18 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Can’t take it…no give you an A for commitment but you are on here making excuses for Bradford…Sam Bradford is not good and Sanchez is worse.. There was a guy on here spouting about Sanchez running the offense yikes

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 3:51 pm

Damn Vinnie, I don’t know what kind of Calender’s you have up there in Canada, but I’ll be 6ft Under the Ground by the Time your 5 Point Plan works…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 23, 2015 5:33 pm
Reply to  paulman

LMAO

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 23, 2015 5:28 pm
Reply to  tsjohnson5

TSJ5, I hear you, but Barney Rubble pushes my buttons with his smugness. How are you going to be snide in your press conference after you just got your ass whupped? He needs to just answer the question instead of getting smart. The press conference questions were legit and he is getting smart like an adolescent middle school punk. This guy has no clue how to judge college talent, he got Hicks and Matthews(even a broken clock). He can’t coach as he is getting outcoached, his only game plan is tempo, wheel routes, screens and dinks and dunks. and he lets the other team dictate what he does on offense instead of looking to impose his will…he is soft and the team has taken on his spirit. Like Eddie Murphy said to Martin Lawrence in the movie LIFE..He is SOFT….I will spell it S-O-F-T-..Sofffftttt!!!

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
November 24, 2015 3:06 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

EHL…once again I have to admit…I am very disturbed by what I am seeing on the tape…Demarco Murray sliding…Alonzo refusing to take the halfback on and shying away from contact.
I said on an early tread…I’d take Hardy on this team with the quickness…he’d bring some toughness, some grit…the team seemed uninspired, lackluster, and without any fire
The team has to play better…starting Thursday…they are still in the playoff hunt…but something needs to happen behind the scenes to get a spark…
The whole division stinks…no one is any good and someone is going to win by default…why not us?

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 2:49 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Same here EHL,
I didn’t like the Hiring of Chip Kelly to begin with as I thought he was a Fraud and that his Coaching Style/Scheme would not work in the NFL just like when his Oregon Teams went up against Physical Teams, they would get their asses handed to them.. The Flash & Dash and Up-Tempo was exciting at first, but not sustainable to Winning at the NFL Level, you need a lot more than flash & dash or dink & dink…
He talks about Bigger People beating up Smaller People and he runs a
East-West Horizontal Offensive Attack which is basically Finesse Football
Eagles are into Year 3 of running a 3-4 Scheme and still don’t have the right OLB’s or DE’s to make it more effective in defending the Pass or in yesterdays case, Defending the Run…

They will get their asses handed to them by a hot, confident Detroit Lions who will show the Eagles no mercy in pounding them on National TV as they are Playing their “Super Bowl” at Home on Thanksgiving..

Then comes a 10 Day Break in which I believe some changes will be made
Some Veteran Players may see the Door.. Others may claim Injury and be placed on IR .. Some Coach’s may get re-assigned to replaced..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 23, 2015 3:18 pm

Big fight at the Nova Center – Tom Gamble vs Howie Roseman, police called security needed to escort Tom Gamble from facility. A week later Howie was giving a raise to do no work and sent to the attic; and the Chipper was giving full control of the roster and began searching for a head player personnel guy ( in house hire Ed Marynowitz ).
A month later the NFL GMs and player agents took advantage of the 2 rookies (Chipper and Ed Marynowitz) and purchased Manhattan for $24.

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 3:29 pm

***NFL News and More Paulman Rumors****

LSU Is close to Buying out HC Les Miles ..
I expect Les Miles to Interview for the Detroit Lions Job after the Season is over as he is from Michigan…

LSU is interested in Chip Kelly but reports are that Chip Kelly knows that his Smoke and Mirror’s System won’t have a chance against the Physical SEC and wants no part of Coaching against Top Teams Week in and Week out

USC or University of Texas appear to be the best landing spots for Chip Kelly…

mhenski
mhenski
November 23, 2015 5:23 pm

Lmfao Eagles reporters says chip attends 0 defensive meetings. Wtf the gm and nc never attends defensive meetings and defensive film sessions????

Wtf we got a hc and gm that’s doing the job of a oc only?

paulman
paulman
November 23, 2015 10:36 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Chip Kelly is very similar to Andy Reid in Terms of having little activity or care about what the Defense does or doesn’t do.. This Year Chip Kelly can’t even Coach his Offense at all..
What’s happened to the Eagles Special Teams …

BigE
BigE
November 24, 2015 12:58 am

1960 to 2015 = 55 years without a world championship. Too many Bad owners coaches and draft choices. Chip has not deviated from Eagle history. He is an arrogant know it all who actually knows very little about the NFL talent and strategy. This wise ass set us back another 5 years. Lourie take SOME ADVICE
FROM A SEASONED COACH AND PROVEN NFL WINNERS OR SELL THE TEAM TO SOMEONE WHO WILL. Chips culture is one of failure and excuses and swing passes and a long ball is 7 yards for his QB’s.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 24, 2015 10:58 am
Reply to  BigE

1963 the Eagles were sold. Here is the murderers row of the cheapo owners
————————
Jerry Wolman,( 63-69)
Leonard Tose, (69-85)
Norman Braman, (85-94)
Jeffery Lurie. (94-present)
_____________________________________
the first 3 were so incompetent none of them could even get a honorary plague at the Philadelphia Jewish Hall of Fame, (Jeff Lurie’s career is still incomplete and still has a chance although the horizon doesn’t look promising)

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 10:34 am

Reports by Mike Florio, state that Peyton Manning plans on Returning for the 2016 Season, though it won’t be for the Denver Broncos as they will be moving on from Manning …
Chip Kelly is trying to save his job and reputation and will make every effort to bring Manning to Philadelphia… Good Grief, the Madness never Ends at NovaCare..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 24, 2015 11:09 am
Reply to  paulman

If I was a current Eagles WR I wouldn’t want Peyton Manning, he gets his WR lit up -( Austin Collie and Wes Welker)

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 10:52 am

Anonymous Eagles Player questions the Effort and Heart of RB Demarco Murray claiming that he was sliding down before contact during the 2nd half of the Bucs Game to basically protect himself and not give 100%..

Wonder who it was as the “Inquirer” reports that it was a Player and not a Coach…

Team has a bunch of quitters and losers on it from its Head Coach, to its QB’s and big Off-Season Acquisitions in RB Murray and CB Maxwell..
What a Joke the Eagles have become in a short period of time.
I want Chip Kelly’s Smug Ass Gone!!!!

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 11:12 am

***2016 NFL DraftScouts.Com has the Eagles Projected to have the 10th Selection/Pick in each Round..
Right now the Eagles have the Following Picks in First 3 Rounds if Standing shape up like they are now …

1st Round – #10 Overall Pick
2nd Round #42nd Overall (No Pick-Sent to Rams in Bradford/Foles Trade)
3rd Round – #71st (from Detroit Lions Trade last Draft)
3rd Round – #74th (Eagles Own Pick)

Dang, the Eagles would have had 4 Selections out of the Top 75 Players
Now they go from 10th, all the way to 71th & 74th and miss out on the 60 Players in-between with that stupid-ass Bradford/Foles Trade..

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 11:32 am

Eagles Mock if They Did not Make Bradford Trade
(remember my Mock does not include and potential Juniors who may Enter the Draft early for we won’t know who they will be until after the College Season is over except for Ohio State’s RB Ezekial Elliot & QB Cardale Jones who both have stated that they will enter the 2016 Draft

10th – OT Ronnie Stanley – Notre Dame (6-6 315lbs) – Day 1 Starting RT
42nd – Safety Darian Thompson – Boise State (6-2 210lbs)
71st – Center/Guard Nick Martin – Notre Dame (6-4 305lbs)
74th – CB Cordrea Tankersly – (Clemson 6-1 195lbs)

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 24, 2015 12:01 pm
Reply to  paulman

I like cb William Jackson out of Houston. 6’1″ 175. He has room to add mass to frame. He can cover and is not afraid to tackle and hit.

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 2:00 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

He sounds like CB Kevin Johnson of the Texans who coming out of Wake Forest was about 180lbs and has turned into probably the Best Cover CB of last Years Draft Class.. Or at least among the Top 3 CB’s of last Year’s Class

Rhino
Rhino
November 24, 2015 6:21 pm
Reply to  paulman

Darian Thompson is the dude i want the eagles to get. That kid can tackle and is a ball hawk. Put him back there at Safety with Jenkins and have Thurmond go back to CB. Get all OL in the 3rd..and in the 4th get Dak Prescott or Carson Weiz, i think im wrong with spelling. Think he is from North Dakota. Brisett or Marquis Williams from UNC. Anyone of these as project QBs. Oh yeah..and get a pass rusher.

Everz11
Everz11
November 24, 2015 11:33 am

C’mon Paul it was a great trade. We had to add 12 million to our payroll and lose a 2nd round pick if we were going to get essentially the same player in return that we already had, albeit he was going to be cut, had a 5 year career resume of a losing record, inferior passing statistics and chronic knee injuries….he had a better pedigree! Chip Spurrier’s “system” was going to dispell 5 years of deficiencies that were put on tape. Just be thankful he balked at an extension before the pre-season. I don’t even hate Bradford, he is a serviceable back-up QB, I’m more disappointed Chip gave up too much to get him and put him in an impossible position (offense style/players) to succeed.

deserteagle
deserteagle
November 24, 2015 1:39 pm
Reply to  Everz11

This pro football business is judged by performance on the field and wins vs.losses.There is no way to sugar coat this.This is an abject failure; of epic proportions.Not only in the present; but in the near future.People were ushered out of the building for not being “chips guys” Now it comes to light , marginalized effort , has been pervasive.Quitting or lacking in motivation is something that we were attributing to the outcasts..perhaps it’s not the players but the environment of the nova care.

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 1:58 pm
Reply to  deserteagle

You are Correct DesertEagles
Chip Kelly and the Eagles are 7-10 over their last 17 Games
They have become a Below Average Team in the last 12 Months
They are what some of us thought they Were..

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 24, 2015 4:08 pm

Know it all media Johny come lately experts are feasting on the Eagles –
Bennie Logan is being harassed by the media for laughing with QB Winston.
Demarco Murray is being harassed by the media for sliding like a QB.
Jason Kelce is hiding and afraid to peek his head out of his hole.
Chip Kelly is being harassed whether he says yes or no.

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 4:13 pm

Check out Lane Johnson’s Comments about Not Having Home Field Advantage any longer when Playing at the Linc..
Jeff Lurie is probably calling Chip Kelly on the Carpet right now on that one..
Watch Kelly be forced to Bench Lane Johnson for a Game even though he has Zero Players available who can Play OT at the NFL Level this week….
This Shit is getting more ridiculous every day…

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 24, 2015 7:35 pm
Reply to  paulman

The media is going to burn this team to the ground. These players don’t have to stay. They have a nice crop of Unrestricted Free Agents coming up the next couple of years who were born in the south and Texas. These players already have a regional dislike for Northeastern loud mouth types. Lane Johnson and Bennie Logan will have plenty of suitors some with better weather, taxes and a much more pleasant media situation.

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 11:14 pm

The Eagles are now becoming an undesirable Franchise to Play for anymore ..
They’ve become like the Cleveland Browns in Terms of “perception” of the Team, their City, Fans & Media… Just brutal
Meanwhile last evening,Cam Newtons holds his Annual Thanksgiving Dinner for under-privilege Families in Charlotte and tonight the Carolina Panthers held a Tree-Lighting Ceremony at their Stadium with lots of events for Kids
The directions of these 2 Franchises and day & night right now…

deserteagle
deserteagle
November 24, 2015 11:39 pm
Reply to  paulman

To be fair Pman ,they’re on a short week preparing for a game ..Not doing turkey photo ops.On NFL showtime I found Phil Simms evaluation of chip Kelly’s interesting .His claim is that they. Run tempo in practice not allowing for ferocity on defense.That they don’t “game plan” ,for a specific opponent ,relying on the execution of very basic plays ..The interesting part of this decay ,is that it’s self inflicted.The arrogance and ignorance of Jeffrey Lurie on New Year’s Eve is now rearing its ugly head .When you do the unorthodox and trade and cut guys like a two minute drill ,it certainally put you in the medias glare,in the off season .When you do that and win you’re a genius..but when you truly believe a system is all that matters .you find yourself aware ,this is the NFL..

paulman
paulman
November 25, 2015 1:00 am
Reply to  deserteagle

To DesertEagle
I’m not sure if your aware that the Panthers are on a short week also as they travel to Dallas for the late afternoon Thanksgiving Game with thr
Cowboys..

deserteagle
deserteagle
November 25, 2015 10:31 am
Reply to  paulman

My bad ..you’re correct..Pman..no excuses .

CT
CT
November 24, 2015 5:36 pm

Stephen Curry will go down as the most special player to have ever played in the NBA. We are witnessing history as we speak. I do not think I have ever liked a Athlete so much out of Philly sports like I do Curry..

Rhino
Rhino
November 24, 2015 6:25 pm

I would ask Dawkins if he wants to be our Defensive Cor. I like his statement that he made about allowing Winston to pick us apart. Show that kid some different looks..dont let him know where blitz is coming from. Do we have some Jim Johnson tapes on file in the film room!! Davis needs to stay in that room for hours and pick some shit up!!!!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
November 24, 2015 6:40 pm

Adam Schefter tweets that signs are piling up that Chip Kelly is sick of the situation here and the Eagles are tiring of him and that he may not be back next season.

I would find that funny given the fact that the Eagles gave Chip what he wanted(full power).

I do not know what is happening at One Nova Care Way, but, with the way some players are speaking out, one, anonymously against D. Murray, Lane Johnson sniping at fans, players quitting on plays and putting forth a lack of effort, clearly this ship is taking on water fast.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
November 24, 2015 7:40 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

it is obvious who is leaking stories – Howie !

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 11:16 pm

Probably Chip Kelly’s Ex-Wife…

Rhino
Rhino
November 24, 2015 6:51 pm

So we finally take Kraus off practice squad and put him roster ..but why drop acho?!?! Why not just drop Austin..anyways hopefully him and Matthews form a good duo like they did at Vanderbilt..he ran a 4.37 at combine. Finally some speed at the WR position!

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 7:05 pm

Darren Sproles Announces a 10 Round Middle Weight Bout Versus Mark Sanchez on New Years Eve Held at the Linc by Roseman Productions
Tickets at $35 Each with $10 Going to Howie…

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 7:10 pm

Bradford was Limited again at Practice Today which Tells me it will be Mark Sanchez with probably Thad Lewis as the Back-Up on Turkey Day

Injury Report

Center Jason Kelce sits out due to injured Knee and Very Doubtful
TE Zac Ertz out with Concussion and will not Play
RB Ryan Matthews still out with Concussion and will not Play

paulman
paulman
November 24, 2015 7:22 pm

I tell you what, If I am Jeff Lurie, I am not sure what the hell to do..
Chip Has to go, so now you have to replace a GM and a HC & Staff…
I don’t think you can bring back Howie Roseman so who do you go with…

Have Howie & Ed Marynowitz split the GM Duties where Howie handles the $$$,Player Contracts, Salary Cap Management and let Marynowitz handle the Player Personnel/Scouting Depts and then go Out and Hire a Coach
Do you keep a Pat Shurmur around for 2016 Season to have some type of smooth Transition for the Offensive side of the Ball where maybe yuo keep QB Sam Bradford who has a good rapport with Shurmur and then go out fix your OL and WR’s …
Defensively, Go back to a 4-3 Scheme and junk this 3-4 Scheme as a Base Defense.. Build your Defense with Cox/Logan as your DT’s and Hicks as your MLB and keep Safeties Jenkins & Thurmond and Build from there
by adding Longer/More Athletic DE’s, with some true OLB’s and add more Cover CB’s

Let Nolan Carroll Walk, Let DeMeco Ryans Retire, Shift Alonso, Kendricks to the OLB Position
Hire a Perry Jewell (formerly of the Giants)

jakedog
jakedog
November 24, 2015 10:00 pm

The chip kelly empire is crumbling,

As it must

almost without exception. His off season transactions have put the eagles in a deficit

Who will bail it out

It is gone, far gone

deserteagle
deserteagle
November 24, 2015 11:42 pm
Reply to  jakedog

Jake ..it’s commupance ,and chips getting it by the gallon jugs ..

paulman
paulman
November 25, 2015 11:27 am

Word is Mike Shanahan Flying into Philly Friday to meet with Owner Jeff Lurie as his paychecks are about to end from Daniel Snyder
Mike Shanahan has always wanted to be a GM/Football Executive while having his Son Kyle be the HC

Lurie has scratched off any College Coach’s off his List (Les Miles, David Shaw, Kevin Sumlin, Mark Richt,etc) as he wants a HC with NFL Experience after the disaster with Chip Kelly…