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Thoughts On The Latest Eagles’ Draft Rumors

CarsonWentzatCombineRumor and speculation continues to surround the Philadelphia Eagles as draft day approaches.

Despite the L.A. Rams already making a deal for the top pick in the draft, the Birds are reportedly still in hot pursuit of a quarterback, currently negotiating with the Cleveland Browns for the second overall pick in the draft.

The latest rumored proposal has the Eagles shipping the eighth pick, both 2016 third rounders, and first and third round picks in 2017 to Cleveland for the second pick.

Here’s some of my takeaways from those rumors.

The Eagles Would Receive Very Little Impact From The 2016 Draft

Thanks to Chip Kelly’s Sam Bradford trade from last season, the Eagles were already going into this draft with low ammunition thanks to the lack of a second-round pick.

If the Eagles lose both third rounders along with the eighth pick to move up and get a quarterback, its going to mean that the team will receive very little significant impact from the 2016 class.

Carson Wentz/Jared Goff would sit on the bench for the majority of this season while Sam Bradford and Chase Daniel play things out, meaning that the second overall pick in this draft wouldn’t get a real shot to make a difference until 2017, at the earliest.

Meanwhile, the team would receive no further help at any other positions until the fourth round. That’s right, the top three rounds of the draft would provide the Eagles with no help to speak of.

The Eagles Could Forfeit A Potential Top-10 Pick Next Year To Make This Trade

With no significant help coming through the draft, if this trade were to go down, the Eagles would be very hard-pressed to improve in a number of key areas.

The team would likely be stuck with injury-prone Ryan Mathews as their top running back instead of adding Ezekial Elliot in round one. They’d have to count on an aging Jason Peters to make it through an entire season healthy and effective instead of replenishing the offensive line depth in round three.

Depth at corner, linebacker, and defensive line would all not be properly addressed either, leaving the team with a great deal of holes.

Given the fact that Doug Pederson is a rookie head coach taking over what was already a mediocre team, the lack of incoming talent in the draft could make it very hard for the team to win more than six games, meaning that next year’s forfeited first-round pick would also likely fall somewhere inside the top 10 in the draft.

Whether the Eagles draft a quarterback or not, they’ve already committed to Sam Bradford as their starter in 2016, and if he falters, they have too much money invested in Chase Daniel not to give him an opportunity either. The rookie quarterback will not play meaningful snaps until the Birds are well out of playoff contention.

So either way, this is a team that will finish somewhere between six and eight wins, and have another high draft pick next year.

Is it worth it to throw that away on iffy quarterback prospects this year, or have a little patience, let things play out with Bradford/Daniel, build up other positions this year, and make a run at a better prospect next year.

I’ll take the latter.

It’d be one thing if I thought Wentz or Goff were great prospects. While I like Wentz, I don’t think he’s worth the kind of package it would take to get him.

Put it this way, no team in the league has been more desperate to find a quarterback than the Cleveland Browns. They’ve drafted three guys (Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Johnny Manziel) in the first round in the last 10 years. If they’re now passing up an opportunity to draft a supposed elite prospect with the second overall pick, that doesn’t exactly speak too well about the kind of prospects Wentz and Goff are.

Teams in need of a quarterback don’t pass on the opportunity to draft one. And if they do, there’s a good chance that said prospect is much more likely to be as successful as Robert Griffin instead of Andrew Luck…

Denny Basens

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CT
CT
April 20, 2016 12:42 am

Two 1st round picks and the best interior defensive linemen in foot ball arguably, and even more draft picks more then likely for a rookie out of North Dakota state??

What is wrong with u people?

Bradford was on pace to throw for 28 tds and 8 ints 65% the year he got hurt in STL when he was getting comfortable with his knee. Add on the final 7 games of the sEason when he threw 10 tds with about 5 more dropped/called back bc of dumb penalty and he was looking like the guy who was gonna have a pro bowl year in 2013.

Jesus. Build around the guy. Don’t mortgage ur future get rid of ur best talent on D for a rookie who played no one

Christian H impressed coach dougie apparently during their workout. Take him in the 3rd with one of ur picks and call it a day if we’re gonna waste a pick on a qb this year.

We should just draft a qb next season In the 2nd or 3rd and address other needs this year which are all over. DE, DT, LB, WR, LINEMEN.

C`mon man…..

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 20, 2016 8:50 am
Reply to  CT

they aren’t trading cox… no one wants him as part of a package for a top pick– no one!
as for the bust possibility… we are already in qb hell shouldn’t we take a chance to get out????

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 8:54 am
Reply to  haveacigar

I thought Howie cleared all of this trading Cox nonsense up. He is not going anywhere. He will not be a part of a trade package.

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 20, 2016 9:54 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

“Bradford was on pace to throw for 28 tds and 8 ints 65% the year he got hurt in STL when he was getting comfortable with his knee. ”

No he wasn’t.

Waqterford was able to benefit from facing 3 pathetic teams over the first 7 games. He threw 9 of his 14 tds against the 4-12 Falcons (at home) the 4-12 Jags and the 2-14 Texans. Against the other 4 teams that he he had a pathetic 5tds and 4ints (and -4 record of course).

Had he played he would have been eaten up by the 2 seattles, Colts, Saints, SF and @Arizona that were coming up.

Sammy Sideways had 3 good games against pathetic competition that inflated his numbers – have we seen this before??”
” Add on the final 7 games of the sEason when he threw 10 tds ”

First of all….10 tds in 7 games is NOT IMPRESSIVE. He never once threw for more than 2 tds after week 5.

And of that so super-amazing 10 tds. 2 were in the completely irrelevant last game when the Giants, who had a horrific defense to begin with, didn’t try. 1 in the last 4 mins of a 21 point blowout against the Skins, 1 in the 4th Q of a 27 pt beatdown vs Arizona.

Those are the 10 ‘hollowest’ tds I’ve ever seen….racking up tds at the end of blowout losses or in meaningless final games when the other teams is already on the bus.

What’s that? Good stats against pathetic competition that inflated his numbers – have we seen this before??

Just stop already. Its pathetic.

CT
CT
April 20, 2016 12:49 am

ow many SB’s being won by great Defenses does it take before it sinks in you can win with Trent Dilfer, Eli Manning, Doug Williams, Jim McMahon, etc.? Rodgers has as many SB’s as Joe Flacco and Jeff Hostetler. They all have one more than Dan Marino.

The jury is out on Andrew luck but I admit he’s pretty damn good. But 8th overall, TWO 3rd rd. picks in a year where you have no 2nd rd. pick, and your #1 next year, which will be in the top 12 and another high 3rd rd pick? Is Andrew Luck worth that? Is Wentz ranked higher than Luck was?

Andrew luck has feasted off the weakest divison in football like Peyton did the first few years in his career. He was guaranteed 6 wins right off the batt and only had to go a measly 5-5 to go 11-5 and make the playoffs. Do I think he sucks? No.

He has no talent around him. No offense or running back that has eclipsed 100 yards in how many games? No offense or receiver help and does not have a defense at all to shout about. It doesn’t mean he sucks, it means his team does and that front office with grigson. Trading away first round picks for trent Richardson…lol

A qb is only as good as his supporting cast.

What if this kid who had how many(?) starts at North Dakota state, turns out top be Tim Couch? Then what do you do? Do the same thing all over again in 2019?

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 20, 2016 7:51 am
Reply to  CT

Sams PR man… never heard such dribble– luck took over a 1-15 team and took them to the playoffs–
as for the mortgage the future trade– i get it but without a QB you have nothing– as for him potentially being a bust– every player drafted has that potential…

DMAN
DMAN
April 20, 2016 1:54 am

Remember guys, the Eagles are smarter than all of us..they will most likely mortgage the future on a QB that has the potential to be a bust! The Eagles would be in such better shape if they just stayed at #8 and draft the best player available, or trade back and acquire more picks. But, the Eagles will probably pull off some BS trade, and f**k for another 5 + yrs..

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 8:00 am

Don’t forget that the Eagles were very active in Free-Agency Singing 2 OL in Brooks/Wisnewski to take over the Guard Positions
They Signed 2 WR’s to give them solid #3 & # 4 options and they also Signed 3 Defensive Players who are familiar with Schwartz Schemes in McKelvin, Brooks & Bradham along with sign Safety McLeod & Resigning CB Nolan Carroll

Where are any 2016 Draft Picks going to play from Day 1 ?
Even if Eagles Draft OT Stanley or Conklin, they are not playing in 2016 unless an injury ova curs to Peters/Johnson??
The only Draft Pick from this Class who could potentially make an impact would be RB Z Elliot since Ryan Matthews cannot be counted on.. Thats about it .. Any 3rd/4th Round Selections will be competing as /Rotational at Best but most likely Backups/Special Teams whether they are OL, RB, WR,CB.LB or DL

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 8:20 am
Reply to  paulman

pman, do not forget about G Malcom Bunche. I believe he will be challenging for that LG spot..at the very least he will be the 1st back up G in the rotation.

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 9:35 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Yes, Malcolm Bunche, Brett Boyko, & Josh Andrews will compete with Wisnewski & Brooks

Barbree & Gardner & Tobin & Kelly and Draft Pick will compete as Back-Ups to Lane Johnson and Jason Peters..

Don’t be surprised to see former Alabama Center Barrett Jones shine this Camp at Center & Guard… Jones played for Alabama and was Coach by Jeff Stoudtland .. Jones was a 4th Round Draft Pick by the Rams in 2013 and started some Games before Injury and was a late season pick-up last year by the Eagles — At 6-4 310lbs, Barrett Jones has the Size/Power that Kelce lacks and which Doug Pederson will like… Doug Pederson, similar to AR likes his OL to be Big,Nasty and still light on their Feet and not as finesse and proto-type super athlete as Chip Kelly did..

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 9:54 am
Reply to  paulman

I forgot about Barret Jones. I am not a big Jason Kelce fan because i do not think he possess the power to hold his own. Finesse will not get it done in the trenches. If Barret Jones can come in and perform better than Kelce, then sit Jason.

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 11:00 am
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

Guess what Team needs a Center really bad … that’s right the Cleveland Browns who lost their Center Alex Mack in Free-Agency..
Could Center Kelce be a Part of a Deal Offer to the Browns…

Eagles Starting 2016 OL (from L to R)
Jason Petes,Brandon Brooks, Barret Jones, Steve Wisnewski, Lane Johnson ..

This would be a much bigger and more physical Group that suits both HC Doug Pederson and OL Coach Jeff Stoutland’s Philosophy..

Chip Kelly Had OL Coach Jeff Stoutland Coaching Pulling Techniques which is not what he did at Alabama.. Those OL while he was there were Maulers and the not the Finesse Schemes that Chip Kelly ran with his “Horizontal Rushing Attack” …

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 11:08 am
Reply to  paulman

nah they got their center

Sophomore C Cameron Erving said he is approaching this offseason as if he is Alex Mack’s replacement.
With Mack gone to Atlanta, Erving is the logical next man up at center. The No. 19 overall pick last year, Erving was dreadful at both guard spots as a rookie, but the Browns will hope a full NFL offseason and a switch to his natural position will lead to improvement. Having lost Mack and RT Mitchell Schwartz, Cleveland’s offensive line took a step back this offseason. Apr 19 – 11:55 AM
Source: Nate Ulrich on Twitter

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 12:11 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Cam Erving may project as a Better RT than Center at the NFL Level
He played all 5 OL Positions at Florida State and was probably best at Center and RT… Is he headsy enough to handle the calls, lining up teammates, etc,etc that NFL Centers are required to do, is the big question …

jphalines
jphalines
April 20, 2016 8:41 am

I have no problem trading many draft picks for a Ferrari. Goff is significantly better than Wentz in my humble opinion, but Goff is closer to a Lexus. Wentz is a real nice prospect that has a better chance to fail than succeed just to be a starting caliber QB. I will be sick if they make a huge package to go up to pick 2.
Wentz did start last year with 2 losses and got hurt. His backup won 7 straight to keep them in the playoff hunt. Is that kid a pro QB? What about the NDSU State QB that won the 3 previous championships before Wentz, Where is he?
This isn’t the year of great QB’s, there is plenty of talent at other positions out there that the Eagles need.

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 8:55 am
Reply to  jphalines

I trust paid professional scouts and talent evaluators and they have wentz & goff every bit as talented as marriota & Jamis. People act like like last years top 2 qbs were a luck type prospect. They weren’t and had warts. I’m not sold Winston is a quality qb but what I love about him is he is a leader of men on the field.

Similarly I love wentz for who he is and what he is made of. The kid is humble and all about working. He is strong and fearless he loves being a teammate , loves pumping his guys up on and off the field. He is the anti Sam. Sam comes to philly looking like a wimpy out of shape ball boy. You don’t see or here about him off the field. You see no fire from Sam on the sidelines. Sam just seems like a guy that plays qb (poorly at that) he isn’t a leader or qb off the field. I want my qb to be a leader on and off the field and to have supreme confidence in his guys not be a nice dry guy with no fire. Sam is a loser man I fkn hate everything about that ball boy

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 20, 2016 9:30 am
Reply to  mhenski

And now we read about the great Ertz and matthews “visiting” Bradford this spring.

And it was Matthews who called up Bradford and basically invited himself and Ertz over to Waterford’s house. (from SBs own words). And what did they do? They “hung out” playing vids and “getting to know each other”

Well, Kumbaya.

Throwing? Well, that will be “nice” to do in the summer…”maybe”.

Does this sound like a guy being given his last chance, after being traded from his first team, handed a no confidence one-year deal, and standing among swirling rumours about his replacement???

The guy was about to retire 14 months ago, and his heart isn’t in it.

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 9:38 am

yea that ertz, matthews, bradford camp was laughable… seemed forced… the real qbs and leaders are inviting (not being invited) all their playmakers for intense workouts… you never questioned mcnabbs desire to win and compete at the highest level b/c of the work he put in, how he invited all his teammates out and had the stars of the nfl there with them working their asses off to build them up, gel as a team, learn new shit, focus on working their asses off to be in top shape come camp… this shit in oklahoma was a joke

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 9:57 am

Even Mark Sanchez invited the Broncos receivers out to practice with him. I thought Bradford invited those guys out to his place..leadership indeed!

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
April 20, 2016 10:14 am

I just love this “they’re going after a top QB” narrative.

Doug is Andy 2.0, so were now taking it way back, Andy got his QB in Donovan early on, now Doug is looking to get his QB the first year in.

This was expected but still very fascinating.

If Bradford struggles, like in the case with Doug, Wentz (or Goff) will be put in..

I hope Bradford succeeds with us because that means we’re succeeding as a team..but man I’d love to have that franchise qb for the future..

I really like Wentz

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 20, 2016 10:39 am

Let’s go Howie get your fucking guy

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 20, 2016 11:42 am

What a team though eh?

Mike Mamula, Williams vs McNabb, the fireman, rats at the Vet, McDougle, they’re coming to rape your wives and girlfriends, Mike Vick, coach’s kids dealing and dying, Howie vs Kelly, situps, for who for what, team moving to Phoeinix, team moving to LA, puking in the SB, wide nine, Santa Clause, kitchen sink for Mariotta, Wentz v Goff, toxic front office, getting rid of all the good black players, Riley Cooper, Smokescreens, time’s yours, Pederson’s extramarital affairs, stadium courthouses, “franchise” qbs given 1 year deals,

Does any other franchise deal with this shit? Seriously? The Eagles are a never ending soap opera. Its unbelievable really. And I don’t know if its the media, or the FO, or some combination of both, but its an endless barrage of toxic news and rumours and.

I still question if a team can function properly in an environment like the one that surrounds the Birds. This happens to no other team on the scale it does with the Philadelphia Eagles.

Crazy.

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 12:18 pm

Jesus when u list it like that Vinnie it sounds horrible…… To be a eagles fan

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 12:25 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I think we are trading up now no smoke screen, as soon as I saw the frame work is in place for eagles on draft day to get the 2nd pick, it will get done,the next two years the eagles will build thru free agency, its gonna happen, I feel it now, gloomy u can be happy

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
April 20, 2016 12:32 pm

Carson Wentz is overrated and a very huge risk. The guy has only played in 23 games at Division 1-AA. Does he have all the physical tools…sure..but the NFL’s history is filled with guys who had all of the ‘physical tools’ and were flat out busts.
To take a kid in the top ten of the draft, based on how good of interview he is, how he looked in shorts or on a limited Senior Bowl is simply ridiculous.
What is this kid’s football character?
Not his character in the ‘locker room’, his ‘interaction with teammates…I’m talking about his character when he is smacked hard by one of those NFL defensive lineman at NFL speed. How about when the defenses are swirling around him…will this kid be able to recover when he is shook up? Will he lose his confidence.
With this kid we have absolutely nothing that even gives us the slightest hint about that at all…maybe he has it…maybe he doesn’t!
What can we look at from Wentz that tells us that this kid can run a west coast offense? Where you have to be able to sit in the pocket under a pass rush go through progressions and hit a receiver accurately.
Scouts looking at the kid say one of his weaknesses was holding the ball a little too long not going through his progressions
Again…MAYBE the kid can do all of this…MAYBE but it is a huge risk and one that I’m not taking and it doesn’t make sense for the Eagles to take that risk either!

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
April 20, 2016 1:14 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

What can we look at from Wentz that tells us that this kid can run a west coast offense? Where you have to be able to sit in the pocket under a pass rush go through progressions and hit a receiver accurately.

You talk such BS koolbreeze… The beauty of the WCO is that it matches the quarterback’s feet to the receiver’s route… Every pass is a timing route. There is no sitting in the pocket waiting for receivers to get open….

We don’t know if the kid will be a good NFL quarterback. We don’t know if the Eagles even want him…We can only hope that the people evaluating talent pick the right player to draft…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 1:18 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

We don’t know if Zeke, Ramsey, Tunsil, Jack or any of the guys in the top 10 will be able to play at the level they are expected to in the NFL…plenty of so called can’t miss prospects missed. It’s all a gamble.

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 1:24 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

if ya got all the tools, with 4.0 smarts to boot, and youre a dual threat qb and you work your ass off so much so youre now in position to go 1st or 2nd in the NFL draft coming out of North Dakota im pretty sure every fuckin box is checked

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 12:42 pm

“Carson Wentz is overrated and a very huge risk.”

“Does he have all the physical tools…sure”

LMFAO. HOW CAN 1 PERSON CONTRADICT THEMSELVES SO QUICKLY???????

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 12:48 pm
Reply to  mhenski

Go ahead give them your 1st this yr and both 3rds and the 1 next yr, its only 1 draft, gotta get that QB of future

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 12:46 pm

the kid is a built like a linebacker not like a highschool waterboy like sam, he aint gonna be scared in nobodies pocket thats for damn sure

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 12:55 pm
Reply to  mhenski

The Kid (Wentz) is a Winner, I would take my Chances on Trading up to get him.. When you look at it, the NFC Conference is in a Transition right now with the Top Teams Seahawks,Panthers,Cardinals still getting used to handling the Bulls-Eye, the fame and expectations and contract squabbles that arise from Super Bowl contending Teams …
The Packers have taken a Step Back and Aaron Rodgers is another Year Old… The Saints are rebuilding arounf an aging Drew Brees and the 49ers are really rebuilding….
Teams on the Rise are Vikings, Redskins & TB Bucs

Why not roll the Dice in a Weak 2016 Draft Class and Take a Shot on a Future Franchise QB.. They have Bradford who they can Trade next Off-Season to get something back and Chase Daniels to help mentor,back-up the Young Wentz…
What’s to lose if Eagles Win 6-8 Games Under Wentz in his first Year opposed to Winning 7-9 Games under Sam Bradford ?
New Coach with Pederson and Staff… Go get who he believes in for the long-term which is not Sam Bradford… If Roseman already had that Deal with Dolphins (Alonso/Maxwell) to get all the way to #8, the Eagles likely would not have even re-signed Sam Bradford, but that’s water under on the Ben Franklin Bridge now ..

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 12:51 pm

4.0 student
Winner
has all the physical tools
work out warrior
loves the game of football
loves his teammates and loves pumping them up
photographic memory
well spoken

HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE RISK LMFAO

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 12:56 pm
Reply to  mhenski

flawless footwork
quick release

HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE RISK

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 1:20 pm

WHILE SAM BRADFORD TAKES 6+ MONTHS TO MEMORIZE CHIPS 10 PLAYS THIS FUCKER MEMORIZES EM IN 2 SECONDS

https://youtu.be/psUuk19ZFfg

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 1:24 pm
Reply to  mhenski

love the kids answer on what he wants to do after football…

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 20, 2016 1:52 pm
Reply to  mhenski

LOL….Mid-November and Sam Bradford is admitting he still couldn’t figure out the difference between the “S” and the “2”…and Koolidiot is worried about Wentz running an offence????

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 1:33 pm

I have no Problem with the Eagles going all In for QB Wentz this Draft…
I am not a Jared Goff Fan and would not go all in for him, but for Wentz, yes
I would so as long as the Rams Select Goff then the Eagles are good to go…
I see only the 49ers Moving up and screwing this up for the Eagles but they still have the Kaerpernick Issue and must move him first by Trade to someone.. The Jets may end up with him for chump change…

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 1:34 pm
Reply to  paulman

Kaepernick – Or to the Bills who would love to have him and reunite with OC Greg Roman…

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 1:44 pm

Listening to 97.5, Cleveland reporter Tony Grossi ESPN.com who covers the Browns is saying that the Eagles have offered the Browns a 1 and 3 this year, and a 1 and 3 in 2017. He states that the Browns really do want to get out of 2nd pick, but they are mulling the trade offer over and waiting to see if another team comes with a better offer. Trade may happen before draft..depending on interest. Grossi further states that he does not believe the cowboys or 49ers are interested in trading up into the number two spot.

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 20, 2016 1:48 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

That isn’t as bad as the original report–
There is a chance he is bust but at some point when you are in position to get a QB who you like… do it.. just do it– get a 4th for sam

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 1:50 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

HAC, I said earlier today that the pick was not going to cost them as much as it was reported.

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 1:47 pm

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 1:47 pm

Breaking news…Eagles have acquired the # 2 pick in the 2016 Draft!!!

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 1:47 pm

ITS A WRAP SAMMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 1:48 pm

WIP is reporting the Eagles have traded with the Cleveland Browns, the eagles get the Browns #2, Browns fall back to 8.

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 1:48 pm

It’s being reported on the Eagles twitter account!!!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 1:49 pm

So much smoke…FIRE!!!

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 1:50 pm

UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!!!!

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 1:51 pm

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS PENDING WE GETTING A QB, I CANT STOMACH BRADFORD!!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 1:52 pm

Gee, I wonder who the Eagles are looking to acquire with that move up to the 2nd pick?!?!

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 20, 2016 1:52 pm

unbelievable… Kool, CT??? thoughts…sideways ba bye!

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 1:53 pm

SMOKESCREENS SMOKESCREENS SMOKESCREENS!!!!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 20, 2016 1:57 pm

Giddy Up!

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 20, 2016 1:58 pm
Jon Hart
Jon Hart
April 20, 2016 1:59 pm

ITS A DONE DEAL

CONFIRMED!!!

EAGLES HAVE THE 2ND OVERALL PICK!!!

CARSON WENTZ IS A LOCK!!!!

WE WILL NOW HAVE OUR FRANCHISE QB GUYS!!!!

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 2:07 pm
Reply to  Jon Hart

I called it and felt it today, I got off the smoke screen train just in time…..lol

Eaglehaslanded
Eaglehaslanded
April 20, 2016 2:16 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Z44, LMAO. Yes, you did call it and you did get off the smokescreen train just in the nick of time!!!

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 2:19 pm
Reply to  Eaglehaslanded

I surely did, feels good to join the wentz train, but truly when I saw that word frame work in a report today I knew it was getting done

vinnietheevictor
vinnietheevictor
April 20, 2016 2:01 pm

What they gave up not too terrible either….

Swap firsts this year. + a 3rd and a 4th.
Next year a 1st, but get back a 4th
A 2nd in 2018

Now trade away Sideways for another 4th or something (fingers crossed).

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 2:14 pm

agree vin. not deferring that 2nd until 2018 is huge!!!!!!!! can easily find a way to get that back. imo we didnt give up too much at all. still have a 3rd this year… next year only impacting us 1 round same the following…howie will get that back anyways… only thing i dont like is the browns likely will have 2 top 10 picks next year

Epidemic
Epidemic
April 20, 2016 2:03 pm

With the 2nd pick in the 206 draft… The Philadelphia Eagles select….. Carson Wentz

Oh how history repeats itself

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 2:13 pm
Reply to  Epidemic

History surely does mcnabb with Andy and now wentz with dougy

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 2:15 pm
Reply to  zilents44

I’m not gonna lie I’m way more excited then I thought i would be, I shed a tear of excitement

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 2:17 pm
Reply to  zilents44

So is it a guarantee Sammy is traded this year? And Howie will get a pick if he wants it, not worried about what we lost

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 2:22 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Where is gloomy he should be shitting himself with excitement right now

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 20, 2016 2:24 pm
Reply to  zilents44

they didn’t even need to give up Huff!!!

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 2:27 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

NO HUFF IN THE DEAL UNREAL

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 2:27 pm
Reply to  zilents44

No Guarantee in moving Sam Bradford, in fact most Teams by this late in the Off-Season do not have Cap Space to take on Bradford’s Current Contract or at lest the Broncos and NY Jets don’t ..
I expect the Bradford plays the Good Soldier for he’s getting paid a ton to do so and plays 2016 and then gets traded after the 2016 Season for a mid-round Draft Pick based on how he plays, etc,etc..
A Wildcard Team could now be the 49ers who won’t be getting Goff or Wentz and really have too toxic of a situation to have Kaepernick return
The 49ers have 12 Draft Picks in the 2016 Draft, maybe if the 49ers can move Kaerpernick to the Broncos/Jets, then the Eagles can move Bradford to the 49ers for a 3rd and 6th Round PIck or something..
Then the Eagles can go into the 2016 with Chase Daniels as Starter with Wentz waiting in the Wings…..

Anyone see or check in on Koolbreeze…

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 2:21 pm

I wasn’t too far off in the Trade Compensation

Eagles Give up in 2016 #8th (1st), #77 (3rd) & #100th (4th)
2017 – 1st Rounder
2018 – 2nd Rounder

Eagles Receive the #2 Overall Pick in 2016 Draft
and the Browns 4th Round Pick in 2017 (which should be in the 104-108th Range)

The Eagles Offered WR Josh Huff and the Browns said No Huff

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 2:23 pm
Reply to  paulman

Lol had to throw in Huff pman

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 2:36 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Just for Henski…. Ha

greenfan
greenfan
April 20, 2016 2:28 pm

Pederson will have his QB just as Reid had McNabb. Lurie has clearly been trying to return to the Reid recipe. Howie will need to be held accountable for the players chosen and the moves made. Hopefully the birds will not have a draft pick within the top 10 for many many years to come, so now was the time to make a move to get a franchise QB. I have no idea if one of these guys can be a franchise QB, but no doubt the birds are putting in the time to be sure. Ultimately, the trade seemed like a decent deal for both sides. Let’s try and get something for Bradford and let Daniel play the part of Pederson in the recreation of Reid’s plan.

GO BIRDS!!!

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 2:33 pm
Reply to  greenfan

Get a 4th for Sammy and sign our cox

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
April 20, 2016 2:47 pm
Reply to  greenfan

Wentz is no McNabb..trying to ‘recreate’ stuff is foolish

To give up all of the draft picks also hurts…especially giving up a first round pick next year because if Sam Bradford gets hurt and the Eagles lose a bunch of games that pick can be another top ten pick!

Its stupid…its dumb

Its ridiculous!!

greenfan
greenfan
April 20, 2016 2:59 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Lol songs…..now you are predicting that Sam was going to get hurt? Too funny.

The fact is, that the odds that the Eagles would have a draft pick this high any time soon was not good. The division that they play in stinks, and with Schwartz running the defense, this team will be better in the long run. This was the year to make a move, and they did.

The fact that you cannot see the similarity to Reid’s first season tells me that you cannot be intellectually honest on any level.

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 20, 2016 2:37 pm

Wooooooooooooooooooooooo

gloomysmitty
gloomysmitty
April 20, 2016 2:38 pm

Let’s go time to coach the kidd up get this bum the foh

Biglion821
Biglion821
April 20, 2016 2:38 pm

So we gave up all that for one of these stiffs? Wrong year to go all in dammit.

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 2:44 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Big don’t sour all day…..we didn’t give up much when u think about it, pretty much a 3 Rd this yr and 1st next year and 2nd in 2018, Howie will get that back in 2018

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
April 20, 2016 2:46 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Big,

I think one of the two will be a pro-bowler one day… I just hope we get the right on!

Biglion821
Biglion821
April 20, 2016 2:51 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

I hope so Irish, I’m thinking Wentz but with our luck we’ll wind up with Goff who I’m not impressed with at all.

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 20, 2016 2:42 pm

Wow they really want Zeke pretty bad. Sike gnaw I hope their right tho.

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
April 20, 2016 2:44 pm

They are wrong…they have fucked up

If we were going to go in…next year would have been better…

This is a sucker move…and dumb move and we will regret this day for years to come…

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 2:45 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

Lol kool its OK man it might be tunsil or zeke

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 20, 2016 2:54 pm
Reply to  koolbreeze

I agree Kool but hey I hope their right

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 20, 2016 2:45 pm

I agree Big but it’s a done deal now. I just hope their right.

IrishEagle
IrishEagle
April 20, 2016 2:48 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

Roseman said they will take a QB with pick #2 in round #1

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 2:55 pm
Reply to  IrishEagle

I don’t want goff, gotta be wentz

koolbreeze
koolbreeze
April 20, 2016 2:56 pm

Hell no its not tunsil or zeke…its Wentz or Goff..

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 20, 2016 2:58 pm

They made this move for Ronnie Stanley that all world right tackle. Sorry I had to there

Biglion821
Biglion821
April 20, 2016 2:58 pm

So LLCB ties up millions at the RB position and here comes Howie the snake to undo that and tie up millions at the QB position. Gotta love this damn team.

haveacigar
haveacigar
April 20, 2016 3:10 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Who can they not afford to sign this year because of the QB money? who is out there? If they don’t trade sideways then his number comes off the books next year. And his number next year makes him more attractive to potential bidders.

Biglion821
Biglion821
April 20, 2016 4:16 pm
Reply to  haveacigar

Yep it’s all good The Gimp will miss a game or 3 anyway

antitrust32
antitrust32
April 20, 2016 3:55 pm
Reply to  Biglion821

Big,
Honestly its a million times better strategy to tie up all that money in QB’s than it is with RB… look what we got for Bums like Kolb in trade value.. even Sanchez we recouped a pick for. We can probably unload Bradford for a pick this year or next year.

RB which is purely predicated by the O-line, is maybe the worst position to tie up millions to. It showed that Chip really had no idea what he was doing.

Biglion821
Biglion821
April 20, 2016 4:23 pm
Reply to  antitrust32

Yes 32 keep Bradford healthy and they should be able to flip him.

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 20, 2016 3:07 pm

A lot of guys on here said you can get running backs in any round. I hope y’all right lets get that 4th round back.

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 20, 2016 3:17 pm

C.J. Prosise we need how to figure out a way to get him.

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 3:19 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

Dude he runs like shady gotta get him diddy

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 20, 2016 3:21 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Agreed maybe it’s the other 3rd round pick we have he will be there.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
April 20, 2016 3:26 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

CJ Prosise is more WR than RB. He can’t take hand offs. He is a 3rd down scat back David Megget Type.

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 20, 2016 3:20 pm

He’ll give me Derrick Henry

zilents44
zilents44
April 20, 2016 3:24 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

No Henry another Alabama bust

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 20, 2016 3:27 pm
Reply to  zilents44

Prosise is the target if they can get him now you have your Qb and Rb for the next 5 to 6 years

CT
CT
April 20, 2016 3:25 pm

It’s not like I’m a bad fan of wentz. I actually stated about a month or two ago the more and more I watch him the more I like him and think he will be a great quarterback.

But instead of taking an impact player on defense such as defensive tackle cornerback or a pass-rusher or even a Elliott to help us win in 2016, we took a reach quarterback by forfeiting more draft picks in the top rounds. If we’re wrong this could really really set us back for years.

The good news about this situation is that Wentz is going to be able to learn for a season or two. He is a bright guy and has never had a b in school.

I pray to God that we chose correctly and that Carson ends up being a pro bowl-caliber quarterback

Go Eagles

RegalEagle
RegalEagle
April 20, 2016 3:27 pm

Now, with a QB under contract (soon) for at least 5 years we are building something.

eagles0superbowls
eagles0superbowls
April 20, 2016 3:29 pm

Sam Bradford and Chase Daniels are both on the trading block.
Will accept a:
2016 2nd or 3rd rounder,
2017 1st rounder,
2018 2nd rounder

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 3:33 pm

New Eagles Mock Draft after Browns Trade (Version #1)

1st Rd – #2 – QB Carson Wentz (N Dakota State)
3rd Rd – #79 – OLB – Jordan Jenkins (Georgia 6-3 259lbs)
5th Rd – #153 – CB – Zach Sanchez (Oklahoma 5-11 190lbs)
5th Rd – #164 – DT – DJ Reader (Clemson 6-3 325lbs)
6th Rd – #188 – OT – Willie Beavers (Western Michigan 6-5 320lbs)
7th Rd – #233 – DE – Drew Ott (Iowa 6-4 275lbs coming off Knee Injury)
7th Rd – #251 – ILB – Josh Forest (Kentucky 6-3 249lbs)

UDFA
RB – Brandon Wilds – (South Carolina – 6-1′ – 220lbs)
RB – Peyton Barber – (Auburn 5-10 220lbs)
WR – Paul McRoberts – (SE Misouri State 6-2 205lbs)
WR – Bralon Addison – (Oregon 5-9 198lbs)
TE – Jake McGee – (Florida 6-5 250lbs)
FB – Quayvon Hicks – (Georgia 6-1 255lbs)

pdiddy
pdiddy
April 20, 2016 3:41 pm
Reply to  paulman

No Rb drafted at all Paul?

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 3:46 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

damn we still got 7 picks this year. still have some room to maneuver…

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 3:59 pm
Reply to  pdiddy

The Good RB’s will be gone by the 4th Round …
Unless the Eagles use their #79 Pick to Draft a Alex Collins, Paul Perkins,Kid from Cal, etc,etc..

But the 2017 Draft is big time loaded with RB’s … Eagles will have to get thru the 2016 Season with a RB Group by Committee…

Look at 2017 RB Draft Class
Lawrence Fournette – LSU
Dalvin Cook – Fla State
Nick Chubb – Georgia
Samaje Perine – Nebraska
Royce Freeman – Oregon
Elijah Hood – UNC
Corey Clement – Wisconsin
James Connor – Pitt
Kareem Hunt – Toledo
Justin Davis – Southern Cal

paulman
paulman
April 20, 2016 3:37 pm

NFL Mock Top #10 Draft after Trades

#1) – Rams – QB J Goff (California)
#2) – EAGLES – QB C Wentz (N Dakota St)
#3) – SD Chargers – DB J Ramsey (Fla State)
#4) – Cowboys – DE J Bosa (Ohio State)
#5) – Jaguars – OT L Tunsil (Ole Miss)
#6) – Ravens – OT R Stanley (Notre Dame)
#7) – 49ers – DL Deforest Buckner (Oregon)
#8) – Browns – RB Zeke Elliot (Ohio State)
#9) – TB Bucs – DE Shaq Lawson (Clemson)
#10) – NY Giants – OT Jack Conklin (Mich State)

mhenski
mhenski
April 20, 2016 3:46 pm
Reply to  paulman

RAMS BEST BE TAKING GOFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!