Do you remember how long Andy Reid and Marty Mornhinweg took to get the plays in from the sidelines to Eagles quarterbacks, Donovan McNabb, Kevin Kolb, Michael Vick and Nick Foles? It took forever and seemed like the Eagles were always dodging delay of game penalties.
If Eagles tight end Brent Celek is to be believed, that’s not going to happen anymore. According to Celek the communication methods of Chip Kelly will revolutionize the way coaches communicate with their players on the field.
“From a communications standpoint, it’s going to change the league,” Celek said yesterday after practice. “I’m not going to tell you guys how, but it will. Just the way that they can communicate plays in and get us the stuff, it’s pretty cool. It’s something that I never even thought was possible in the NFL. Seeing the stuff he’s doing, he has a reason why he does everything that he does, and a reason why each play is called what it is. And it all makes sense.”
“I can’t say that we’re going to be super successful, but from a communications standpoint, it’s insane. I think it’s awesome.”
We all knew Kelly was up to something when his offense would come to the line of scrimmage in college and look to the sideline. He would have one of the backup quarterbacks holding huge posters with different things on them.
A NFL source told me that the communication methods which Kelly was going to use would help make things easier for Michael Vick, who struggled under the system which Howard Mudd brought with him from Indianapolis. Vick had mastered Reid and Juan Castillo’s system, but had to then learned Mudd’s system and he wasn’t able to consistently get the Eagles into the right blitz pickup.
I was told that the Birds would be need only one or two words in the huddle or at the line of scrimmage to call the next play. Celek says it’s not that simple.
“Yeah, but it’s deeper than that. Like I said, I’m not going to get into it, but there’s a reason why he calls everything the way he calls it,” Celek said. “It’s pretty cool. It’s all thought out to the Nth degree.”
For years I always wondered why offenses didn’t use the no-huddle offense more because the big defensive linemen get tired from pass rushing (rushing the passer takes up more energy than anything else on the defensive side of the ball) and the pass rush stops when they get tired and the quarterback has all day to throw the football. Think about how many offenses you’ve seen start to move the ball once they get into the no-huddle offense.
“It’s almost like you don’t even have time to think about the last play because you’re on to the next one. It’s just forget about it, forget about it,” Celek said.
We can only hope that the Eagles are eventually doing what Kelly’s Oregon Ducks were doing to opposing defenses by beating them to the lineup of scrimmage while the defense is sucking for air because the offense is running the plays so quickly, while the Birds are putting up 40 and 50 points on a regular basis.
Love the Up-Temp, but do remember that the Ducks didn’t have a QB turning over the Ball as often as Vick Does.. I am afraid with 80-85 Snaps a game on Offense, that will Vick will cough it up 5-6-7 Times meaning the other Team
is putting up 40-50 pts a game against the Eagles Defense..
The signs on the sideline are the thing I’m looking forwrd to most.
Watching Vick get balsted on one of his runs and seeing the ball bounce backward 15 yards is the thing I’m looking forward to least.
Do you think he will still use that picture of Big Red here in Philly.
So Howard Mudd is the one that caused Mike Vick’s problems?
Hmm, I thought it was Dan Reeves…er…Greg Knapp..er.. Jim Mora… er… Quanis Phillips …er… Purnell Peace… er.. Andy Reid.
Will anything ever be Vick’s fault?
Agree Irish. Vick never mastered Andy and Marty’s system. In 2010, I think Vick became a better passer while defenses continued to play contain against him given that he could still run. When defenses starting sending the house (Minnesota), you saw the real Michael Vick. Teams now continue to tee off on him because he can’t pick up the blitz and can’t run like he used to.
Not if his Idol worshippers, have anything to say about!
Wow anytime anyone says anything positive about Vick here comes the constant badmouthing. But hey I guess Chip Kelly doesn’t know anything.
Irish,
You forgot Marty Mornhinweg, the oline(s), the playcaling, the Wrs, the lack of a running game (phi), the over-reliance on the run game (atl), Arthur Blank, the women in the Ron Mexico case, airport screeners, Marcus, the media, the “man”, white people in general, Peta, the NFL for rescheduling the MNF game, his quitter teammates, anyone who won’t let him “do my thing”…
There’s has got to be a few more……
You forgot global warming, the melting ice caps, the polar shifts, sun storms, & alien abduction!
Maybe he had too many vaccination shots?!? What do you think Songs, you make every other excuse for him?!?
Who would have thought that Al Gore & Mike Vick would make a Good Ticket.. I could see M Vick giving Tipper a big old smooch on stage.. Too Funny, while Vick’s Wife slaps him on the back of the head…
While you clowns continue to degrade the man that has the best shot at quarterbacking the Eagles in 2013, I will support him and hope he handles his business out there and delivers a Lombardi trophy.
No Birdo they will say they are just keeping it real. Whatever hate on fellas hate on.
How are we degrading Vick? No one has said anything about him as a person or questioned his character. A lot of us are just not fans of his play on the field; which if you watch the games, I don’t see how you could think he’s very good. If anything Birdo, you’re the one degrading people by calling them clowns.
BTC, MORON….Chip Kelly watched the games, with a better eye for talent than any of us have and a much better understanding of the game of football than any of us have…..and he STILL wants to keep Vick. What does that say?
What options did Kelly have BIrdo.. Come into Camp with only Foles??
If Foles is the future, why not?
Why does that make me a moron and why are you so charged up on a chat board? You really need to take it easy there fella.
Just because Chip Kelly is keeping him around, doesn’t make Mike Vick a Superbowl winning QB. If Chip was so high on Vick, why was Vick forced to take a substantial pay cut?
IT SAYS NOTHING. THEY GOT THE GUY TO TAKE HIS 15+ MILLION 2013 SALARY AND REMAINING YEARS ON HIS CONTRACT AND CONVERTED THAT TO A ONE YEAR DEAL WORTH UNDER 8 MILLION. IT SAYS THEY WANTED OPTIONS AND THATS IT. CHIP DOESNT HAVE DOWN SYNDROME, HE KNOWS HE SUCKS JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER SANE PERSON WHO HAS WATCHED HIM PLAY
Its actually $3.5 million. With the other half based on completely unmakeable incentives (most notably playing 90% of the snaps and winning the SB)
Vick went from $15 to 3.5 million. I think $3.5 million is about 24th in the NFL for starting QBs base salaries….which makes sense because he was about the 24th rated QB.
not sure if that is true the 3.5 rotoworld words it weird and cant find the true details anywhere:
2/11/2013: Signed a one-year, $7.5 million contract. The deal included a $3.5 million signing bonus. Another $2.5 million is available through incentives based on playing time and playoff appearances. 2013: $3.5 million (+ $500,000 in per-game roster bonuses), 2014: Free Agent
Lombardi trophy & Vick, in the same breath, is both stupid & asinine. And Big, if you are referring to me as hating, you again are wrong! I don’t have anything against the man personally, he just sucks as a QB, PERIOD! Keep idol worshipping, your false Messiah fellas! Maybe someday, he’ll make your dreams come true! BTW, I ALWAYS, KEEP IT REAL! It’s fools like you, who are deluded & live in fantasy La-La land, that can’t except reality & the truth! Keep hope alive, he’ll be GREAT, for his next team.
Exactly what DCar said.
Dcar I am referring to the same ridiculous comments over and over from the usual suspects, you will rightly come down on everybody who doesn’t perform so this wasn’t addressing you. But anytime anyone praises Vick here come the same stupid comments from the same crowd who considers themselves Eagle fans but bitch about who the coach decides who the Qb is. Again if Foles is the better guy during camp he’ll start, I don’t think he’s any good but I won’t be watching hoping he fails like most of these clowns who consider themselves true fans.
So you can’t be a flyer fan and bitch about the fact that mgmt hasn’t been able to find a goalie over the past 15 years?
You can’t be a Raiders fan and bitch that they threw away 2 drafts for Carson Palmer?
You can’t be a Browns fan and bitch thet they drafted a 28 yr old QB?
You can’t be a Cowboy fan and bitch about having to watch Romo choke for the next 4 years?
According to Mhenski, you can’t be a fan and bitch about a coach’s (and I’m assuming mgmts) decisions.
SO I better not hear any more bitching about Danny Watkins or Nate Allen. Lets all hush about Nnamdi and the trade for Dominic “no one wants me” Cromartie.
And most certainly, you can’t be an Eagles fan and bitch about another year on the same merry-go-round that is “the Mike Vick experience” You just have to sit back and cheer on every 12 step drop and spin into the DE, clap for the turnover you know if coming every half, and say “good try!” 4x a game watching attempted quick slants ricochet off a defender’s facemast because the mini-man can’t see over their shoulder pads.
As long as Eagles’ coaching has decided……
Got it.
BTW – just to be clear….they was just jokes….everyone on here is so serious all the time.
Vinnie when did I ever say you can’t bitch about a coach’s decisions?????????????????????
anyone who praises vick is an idiot, there is nothing about his game praise worthy NOTHING
**NFL NEWS**
Dolphins Front Office talking with Chiefs OT Brandon Albert about a long-term deal if agreed up, then Chiefs will trade Albert to Dolphins for probably their 2nd Round and an additional pick… Dolphins have to replace LT Long who bolted for the Rams and RT Jonathon Martin (last years #1 Pick from Stanford) is a shakly RT at best and no match to play LT…
The only reason I bring this up for it appears to me that Eagles Could probably trade Todd Herremans to Chiefs anf get a 4th Round in Return
Chiefs will Draft LT Joeckel, and then Play Herreman’s at RT.
Eagles should jump all over this..
Jonathon Martin was a 2nd round pick, one pick behind Cordy Glenn — funny how both slipped into the 2nd when many mock drafts had both going in the 1st.
and both did not look very good their Rookie Season’s and especially Jonathon Martin who was overmatched physcially all season long at RT, showed poor technique.. If you recall, some had the Eagles grabbing him
in last Years Mock’s..
Vick wearing a heart monitor? Eagles fans need one every time he takes the field.
And big, stop with this “hate” lingo, “don’t be hatin'”, unmanly
Nick foles smoothie front and center until geno’s concoction brewed up next week
GENO WILL NEVER WEAR AN EAGLES UNIFORM EVER
Geno Smith and his Football Marketing Team just Purchased
“Geno’s Steaks” in South Philly and will start serving Chicken and Pork Sandwiches and ditch the Cheese Steaks, souces from Morgantown,WV stated at a WWF Qualifying Wrestling Match..
Just tired of the same tired comments Jake.
If you’re tired, take a 5 hour energy! LOL!!!!
LOL, I need one right now!!!
Notice Nick Foles cup is right next to GJ Kinne’s. Not a good sign. LMAO
Celek would be kissing the back side of Gus Bradley if he was named head coach — why aren’t the media bugging him about losing his job to James Casey, the 1st target of free agency
Celek hasn’t lost his starting job, James Casey is an H-back, a hybrid fullback, thats used as both a receiver, and blocker. Both will be on the field at the same time E0S……
100% Correct GMCliff..
Oregon may have ran 80+ plays a game…But you have to realize how different the play calling was from what we are accustom to as Eagles fans. Not just the calling of plays, but the design of the plays, routes, blocking, screens….
Oregon vs Arkansas St game last season…Kelly used 2 QB’s…they attempted 39 passes. They carried the ball 4 times each. Oregon ran the ball 49 times, 57 if you count the QB touches.
Oregon vs Tenn Tech – Oregon attempted a total of 33 passes. Oregon ran the ball a total of 36 times (removing the QB scrambling or called rushes)
Oregon vs Arizona – Oregon attempted a total of 36 passes. Oregon ran the ball a total of 45 times (removing the QB scrambling or called rushes)
Oregon vs Kansas St – Oregon attempted a total of 24 passes. Ran the ball a total of 37 times. (removing the QB scrambling or called rushes)
Oregon vs Oregon St ran the ball a total of 64 times passed 24
Point of the above statistics is to show that the run game will be a bigger part of the Eagles game than years past….Kelly will run the ball. This will be big for Vick especially with the weapon the Eagles have at RB.
Things are going to be different, coaches, different system, different pass protection…Jason Peters returning to the O Line, a different O Line coach, different play calling…All of those things considered could impact Vick’s performance positively…I’m looking forward to see Vick play on a team that will use him in accordance with what he does best, what the team does best.
can Vick succeed in a run 2 times throw once offense?
@RealTalk,
Oregon vs Arkansas State – The score was 50-10 at halftime and the whole first team sat out the second half. Of course they ran the ball 57 times.
Oregon vs Tenn Tech – Marcus Mariota threw for 308 yards and four touchdowns before the starters were pulled. Final score 63-14…. jeezz did you expect them to keep passing?
Oregon vs Arizona – Oregon was winning 43-7 at halftime. Even the QB caught a TD pass… I guess they had to run the ball or they would have scored 100 points….
Oregon vs Kansas St – De’Anthony Thomas ran back the opening kickoff, Mariota threw for 2 TD, and the ducks lead the whole game… No need to pass the ball…
Point of the above statistics – Kelly won’t be running over NFL teams like he did in college. The Eagles will have to pass the ball because they wont be winning by 30 at halftime every game.
Vick will still have to play NFL style QB.
@Irish
Give it a rest…I took the time to research the scores/stats, obviously I know the point spreads…The Eagles had leads in 2012 and did not run the ball. Oregon won a lot of games by a lot of points no doubt. But the running game was a major part of the game…
Oregon vs Arkansas State core was 50 -10 at halftime…yes it was..But what was the first play call of the game? A handoff….when’s the last time you saw that from the Eagles teams of the past? If you want to really be critical…Oregon called 14 pass plays and 11 runs, in the 1st quarter of the blowout….
Yes the score could result in more rushes…but before the game got out of hand it was still a very good mix of pass/run.
Vs Arizona – the first drive….Oregon called 3 run plays and 1 pass play. 2nd possession they called running plays….First two possessions they attempt 1 pass….
Oregon vs Tenn Tech – 10 pass plays, 6 rushes in the 1st quarter…another nice mix of run and pass…
Oregon vs Kansas State – 1st possession 2 called passes…(2 QB carries, possibly scrambles or play call) 4 rushes total. Total for 1st half 12 pass plays, 13 rushes…(3 rushes by the QB in the 1st half, possibly called or scrambles)
Also you don’t mention that many of the pass plays were short passes, WR screens, quick passes, screens, basically could be rushes, considering how close to the line of scrimmage the ball was being received…
Before trying to correct me…due your homework and get all the facts….The running game will be utilized.
@Real
The fact is that the Eagles will not be up 30-40 points in the second half of many games like Oregon. It’s ridiculous to think that the pass/run ratio in Philly will be the same as it was in Oregon. Oregon averaged 53 runs and 29 passes per game last year. That will never happen in the NFL.
Yeah, no shit Kelly will run the ball more than Andy Reid. It would be hard to run less. But he won’t run nearly 70% of the time like he did in Oregon. And the Eagles will need a different type quarterback than Oregon did, which is the point of this post. Michael Vick will not be running the Ducks offense. He will still need NFL quarterback skills,, which he does not possess.
When did I say the pass/run ratio would be the same in the NFL? Never! I simply stated that more of a running game would benefit Vick. Lets be real, the problem you have with my comment, is that I am being optimistic in regards to Vick, in a new system, philosophy, new coaches etc….if I said what I said earlier and replaced Vick’s name with Foles…I bet you wouldn’t of even commented.
Lets be real, the problem you have with my comment, is that I am being optimistic in regards to Vick, in a new system, philosophy, new coaches etc…
That’s partially true… But the real problem I have with your comment is that you seem to by implying that Vick will be in a system that doesn’t require him to have great NFL quarterback skills. And for that reason you think Vick will be successful.
If a NFL team could hang 50+ points on the board every week, and only throw the ball 35% of of the time, like the Oregon stats you posted, then Vick, or Dennis Dixon, or anybody could be our starter – I agree with that.
And my point is that the Eagles will not run 81 offensive plays a game (like Oregon), they ran 64 offensive plays a game last year. The Eagles won’t be leading in every game, and they won’t have a 35/65 pass/run ratio (like Oregon). So the stats you posted are irrelevant.
I agree that the Eagles will run the ball more, but nothing like the Ducks. I think the Eagles will get more first downs and run more offensive plays next year, but nothing like the Ducks. AND – I don’t think running the ball more will cover-up Vick’s shortcomings as a quarterback or as a ball carrier.
As far as Foles goes – Nothing about the Oregon system benefits him.
First off, you stated that the reason why Oregon had so many more runs than passes was because of the score of the game…you implied that they only ran the ball because of the score…that is partially true…running numbers were inflated greatly because of the final score…
But as I also pointed out Oregon ran the ball early and often, even in those games that were eventual blowouts. Playing Vick to a skill set that benefits him means this. More movement of the pocket, get Vick on the move….this is where he is best, when you speak about “QB skills”…thats a skill that some QB’s don’t have! Also mixing from run to pass, not allowing the defense to pin their ears back and get after him on every down. There are so many “new” things in 2013 that could positively impact Vick’s performance, starting with the coaching staff, JP returning to O Line, luck and etc…
You believe what you want to believe…and I’ll continue to support and believe that Vick will have a solid 2013 season based on what I expect to see from the Philly offense
I’ve stated when Kelly was hired that Chip Kelly/Pat Shurmur will employ 2 Offenses and that both Vick and Foles will see snaps during the Games based on Opponent, Score who has the hot hand, etc.. I am not sure avick has the Ego to handle it though, hence, the signing of Dennis Dixon..
It will be an interesting Camp this Summer for Kelly doesn’t see to care about Coddling to Players feelings.. Just Win Baby…
sis boom bah –
it’s the sport of kings, better than diamond rings — football
Hey dcar I love how clowns like you and the rest the trolls constantly shit on this vick and have the audacity to say others who primarily CALL OUT your obsessive hate are worshippers. That’s what hate filled assholes say as a weak cover. Most of these geniuses had kevin kolb’s nuts in their mouths with no real basis. 5-6 years later and 500 teams; he still sucks. NEWSFLASH some of us only really accept vick BECAUSE HE’S OUR TEAM’S QB. What you and most of these broads do is waste no opportunity to bash and hate. At least your boy jake is proud of being a bigot.
Nah brewski DCar is a equal opportunity basher if you suck he’s calling you out. What I don’t like is dudes being critical before one down has been played. I guess most of them I’m looking at you Vinnie will be happy with 4-12 as long as young Foles is behind center.
Hey brew, you have ZERO clue of what spews out of your imbecilic mouth! Where am I wrong, with any comment about your Idol Vick, sucking? He does! Where have I bashed, or hated on your boy Vick? No where, I just state facts, that he sucks! I don’t take personal attacks on him! Where, EVER, did I EVER say I liked KOLB?!? No where, EVER! He’s a bum! Jake ain’t my boy! You are the only clueless, ignorant, racist, bigot, in this conversation! I’m Black, Italian, & Cherokee, so your a f^#@ing ill-advised, smacked @$$! Go back to kneeling, in front of your false God, & fraud QB! BTW, NO you only except Vick, is because he’s of a certain color, not because he’s with our team. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be getting sand in your vagina, when someone criticizes him, because you wouldn’t care about the name on the back, you’d be caring about the future & betterment of the team, in which Vick is not the answer. So don’t lump me in with your reverse discrimination garbage, to hide your own racism. Pretty funny how you falsely mentioning us as loving Kolb & Foles, who are white, & say we hate Vick, who is Black. If you any sort of a f^#@ing brain, you’d have seen, I said on many occasions on here, that Randall is my favorite all time Bird QB, with Jaws 2nd, McPuke 3rd! But, like many of your close-minded, ignorant, ill-advised, cohorts on here, you don’t know WTF you are talking about. I’m a equal opportunity criticizer, & bash indiscriminately!
can we stop with the Vick trolling he is not the best QB not the worst. I hate turnovers like the next man but I’m not going to ignore that a lot weren’t his fault and neither was how bad the team was. I liked the way Foles played and I think he can be a really good QB if given the chance, but that doesn’t make me look at Vick in a different light. people up here act as if he didn’t win games before philly like he wasn’t the first player to walk in Lambo and win a playoff game against Bret Favorite. How do you get as much attention and a second chance like Vick has being a Bum? obviously professional coaches staff front office people value his game when they watch it as well as the players. Shit crumbs up her really have no clue and want make people talking about his ego and what it can and cannot handle, yet he shared time with Dmac coming off prison or not all players want to play. When I watched the Birds last two year it didn’t matter if it was Vick or another player T.O. happened sometimes for no reason at all. sure handed players would turn it over at the worst time (see Avant and Maclin) the turnovers didn’t stop when Foles took over either. so let’s shut the fuck up and accept he is on the roster like you accept that Kelly is the coach. last I checked Andy’s run was ending before Vick got here and gave him two more years on life support that Andy fucked up again anyway ignoring giant holes in the roster and over analyzing, making knee jerk reactions and desperation decisions as well as overvaluing talent.
Proud of speaking my mind coldbrewski, you don’t know me from jack, nor do I know you, so stay off the labels my friend, I can see from a closed minded perspective you would call me a bigot, you need to broaden your horizon, but in the end compared to what’s going on in this world with Boston, sandy hook, we share much more in common than with which we disagree
So my man DeAndre Hopkins is one of the guilty fools who got caught spreading their feces on their hotel room walls. I thought we had no chance to get him in the 2nd round since he was rising up boards but now he might even last to the 3rd. I would def still try to draft him. Hell Vick has done much more degrading things than that and Lurie didn’t seem to mind.
Schedule is out. 9 wins will be good enough to win this division. If you think Eagles schedule is tough just look at the rest of the division. I see 7 wins at best for this Eagles team right now
Of course he denied it Pheags, he said he was already checked out and gone from the combine when this supposedly happened who cares anyway just youthful stupidity.
As well as my boy Marc Harrison of Rutgers
GMCliff..
What do you think about Rutgers OLB Khaseem Greene..
He’s got a 3rd to 4th Rd Round Grade and is 6-1′ – 241lbs.. maybe a Special Team and Back-up Potential to start out.. read some pretty good yhings and some things about his deficiencies .. What’s your thought’s
I think he is a special teams contributor for a couple of years with the potential to compete for a starting position afterward if he works hard enough. He is a tweener OLB/SS, so I wouldn’t draft him higher than 4th Round. I like Sio Moore OLB, from Connecticut, a lot better who I believe could be an All-Pro SS. Fast, hard hitting, instinctive, and can cover.
These 240-250lbs LB’s are not going to make the transition to an NFL Safety, they are not quick enough or as I say sometimes, not enough good hip action, to play the Safety Position at the NFL Level.. but that’s just me.. I do like SIo Moore and think he has potential to be a Good NFL OLB in 2 Years time
I say screw hip action, he is a baller. Sio Moore ran a 4.56 at the combine, that is plenty quick enough…I say he could be a All Pro- Strong Safety. he is 235lbs, and is athletic enough to play the position at a high level.
As an OLB, he would have to gain weight, which would result in loss of speed…..SS, IS HIS POSITION
They had him playing SS at the Senior Bowl, and he was knocking the snot bubbles out of the top TE’s, RB’s, and WR’s in the draft, and had an interception…….I disagree Paul….
@DCar aka ddouchebag
you are arguably the most negative poster on this site. you rarely post without flaming other posters. i also never stated ‘you” specifically endorsed kolb. asshole reread my post. you’re all over the place as usual. deflection at its best lmao. yeah i’m the racist because i point out bigoted comments displayed daily on this site? you flame daily about vick. somehow that’s not obsessive. but because i point this out, i’m a vick defender? what’s even funnier is that vick has never been a favorite of mine. i can think of SEVERAL qbs that i’d rather have over him. i just know obsessive hateful comments when i see it. as to your racial make-up. go fuck yourself. even if true, it doesn’t excuse your behavior.you can dish it out but you definitely can’t take.
coldbrewski, aka POS, know nothing, scumbag-
I don’t give a f^#@, what you think, or have to say about me. You don’t know $#!t about me, nor are you accurate about anything you say! I’ve never been racist, have never attacked your boy, nor am I obsessed with him! I have NEVER, in the years I’ve come on here, have stated bigoted, or racial comments, about anyone. I rip everyone, when warranted. I’m sick of hearing about the bum, sick of the constant, back & forth with his deluded worshippers, like you. Again, if you were a fan of the Birds, you would care about the future, & betterment of this team, in which Vick is not part of, & has failed to do, over & over again! As for my racial make-up, by you saying “go fuck yourself” shows YOUR ignorance, classlessness, bigotry & racism. So you go F^#@ YOURSELF, scumbag! I can take as much as you can give septic swimmer! You are the 1 bringing up, bogus accusations, of racism, & hateful obsession, not me. If a QB sucks, he sucks! I’ve reprimanded posters, on bot sides of the issue! So stay classy, clueless & useless, because you don’t bring anything else to the site, but your BS accusations, & I never see you on here, bringing anything of value, or conversation wise, on any other topics, just your BS!!!! How about conversing with us, when we talk about topics, instead falsely accusing people, when you disagree! Again, You can GO F^#@ YOURSELF!
@jakedog
nah bruh. your post/statements reflect what typr of person you are. if not, why the need to constanty race-bait. but in your defense i see why it’s probably no biggie. you see many(not all) on this site are enablers for your type of behavior. you make comments often injecting race UNSOLICITED and only a few bother to call you on it. but let a person point the racial bias in protest and the thread is flooded with complaints about playing the race card blah blah blah. your enablers are far worst than you. their hypocrites. your just a bigot comfortable being so. it’s cool.
Your funny coldbrewski, have one one me, if you are cool with me as a bigot, that shows tolerance, a good trait, but if you knew me and what I do you would have a different opinion, but thats irrelevant, I am not here to change your mind, I don’t back down from anything I said, nor am I here to win popularity contests, you are correct though that I have injected race into the convo, not to bait anyone, just my belief that decisions are made based on things other than talent
@biglion
i hear you, but he seems to like to dish it out but can’t take it. i’m all for trying to understandfellow fans and posters, but the venom and hypocrisy on this site is beyond ridiculous. it’s one thing to disgree or have a spirited debate. but what’s been going here is simply hateful trolling.
Again, I will say that the QBs are so “great” on this team, that they are looking to draft one. Why do we keep arguing about them? Some people don’t like Vick and some don’t like Foles and no one knows what to think about Dixon. That tells me that we are a long way from settled at this spot and will probably have a different starter next season.
Bingo!!!
Anyone going to talk/post about Football..
This Vick talk has me sick to my stomach..
In 4Seasons with Eagles, he’s Failed to win a Playoff Game and failed the last Seasons to even have a wiing team, I have seen enough of him and wanted the Franchise to completely move forward this Season
With a new Coaching Staff (which they have) and a new leader at QB
And Not the same old crap.. (Vick) .. Opportunity Lost z
Your sick about Vick and yet you write an entire paragraph about him LOL, tell you what paulman I get tired of idiotic mock drafts and nonsensical trade scenarios that’s why I won’t comment on them. Just joking my man when are you posting your final mock? So I can compare mine to it.
I will have final Mock this week, some changes among the 1st Round
I think Eagles will Eagles will select OT Lane Johnson at #4
Vick stinks and Foles is worse — Howie is a jerk for making us watch another year with both of them –
I am changing my one and only mock, the eagles will draft fisher in the 4 spot, but will trade up to nab ej Manuel with their second pick, a far better prospect than geno smith, it will be foles and Manuel, a good combo right there, Vick is waived or traded, enough of him
There you go paulman, just sent you some kaeopectate, no more discussion on Vick, we are with you, he’s done
Thank for the Kaeo, my Stomach and Digestive Tract Salute You..
Paulmans Top #5 Picks
1) Chiefs – OT Luke Jieckel
2) Jaguars – OT Eric Fisher
3) Raiders – DT Shariff Floyd
4) EAGLES – OT Lane Johnson
5) Lions – DE Ziggy Ansah
I am ok with this..
Jakedogs first three eagles picks
1. Eric fisher
2. Ej Manuel
3. Dj swearinger
Great start , smell my balls fellas , who could pick a better three
ME……
1. Dion Jordan
2. Jonathan Cyprian – (better than Swearinger)
3. Larry Warford
gm, if that is who they pick with their 1st 3 picks, that will set back the team 2-3 years. I have no problem with Cyprian, but he was a 3rd-4th rounder before the BS Senior bowl hype, & we DO NOT have the luxury, to draft a reach in Jordan, at #4. Warford isn’t going to last until the 3rd, & even if he does & we do draft him, what are we doing for the entire right side of the line & with Mathis? No way Watkins starts at RG & no way is Herremans is a RT! You trading Mathis?
DCar you know that my choice is to trade down, and draft Ziggy Ansah. I usually mock my choice with potential trades. Without trades I think politics will rear it’s head. So, thats why you see Dion Jordan.
I think Cyprian is more of a Brian Dawkins clone than some think Matt Eam is, plus, Cyprian is better in coverage, and a better athlete than Swearinger.
Warford, I project to the 2nd Round as well but, some mocks have him forcasted as a 3rd Rounder. That was just to counter Jakes weak mock. this is what I want:
1a, Ezekiel Ansah
1b. Sheldon Richardson
2a. Jonathan Cyprian
2b. Larry Warford
2c. Jamie Collins
3a. Quinton Patton
3b. Cornelius Washington
3c. Brandon Williams
3d. Blidi Wreh Wilson
4a. Matt Scott
4b. Montori Hughes
4c. Da’Rick Rogers
4d. Brian Schwenke
5a. Alvin Bailey
5b. Michael Williams
Yes , I have said I think Mathis is just as much of a problem on the line a Danny Watkins; I want both replaced with Fluker, and Warford at Guard.
Howard Eskin reported the Eagles have no interest in Dion Jordan or Geno Smith — he is a professional Philadelphia Eagle butt kisser so I usually believe is info and sources
and he has been flat out inaccurate as well. He said last year that Vick wouldn’t be here last year, and wouldn’t be the starter the year before…..
Take what he says with a grain of salt……
And they are not going to draft EJ Manual
First 5 Selections made by Eagles
1) OT Lane Johnson (Oklahoma)
2) DE Tank Carradine (Florida State)
3) Guard Larry Warford (Kentucky)
4) CB Leon McFadden (San Diego State)
5) ILB Nico Johson (Alabama)
if you are going to take a guard from Kentucky I wish you were mocking for basketball LOL — I like your position targets I don’t know anything about that CB McFadden
McFadden 5-10″ 195lbs, solid, physical, fast, and excels in man-to-man coverage Great leaping and ball hawk skills.. Many Scouts and myself are rally high on him.. He has that swagger and physicality that you like to see at the CB Spot.. I see him as Nickel back/Special Teamer in 2013
And a Starter in 2014 opposite of Cary Williams..
Larry Warford is a tailkicker, in the mold of Larry Allen……Watkins can’t touch him…..
Fisher, Joeckell, Flyod, Milliner — in that order make it happen —
Worst fear is a HOF 4-3 DL gets selected by Detroit at number 5 playing the wide nine who Howie doesn’t select because he switched to a 3-4.
or worse Joe Banner at number 6 —
Howie has a lot of pressure considering who pushed out the door all around him -Andy Reid at 1, Gus Bradley at 2, Wide Nine at 5, Joe Banner at 6 —-
Some NFL News
Jets have reached a Deal with TB Bucs sending CB Revis for their 1st Round
Picks and future Picks lending a Physical which Revis is scheduled to take Monday with Tampa Medical Staff
This makes my big trade proposal with the Jets a moot issue
The other news Ild that QB Geno Smith & CB Dee Milliner continue to slide down the Big Board making it very unlikely any Teams want to Trade up with the Eagles at #4 fimr euther if these Olayers
It appears that the 3 OT’s (Joeckel, Fisher and Lane Johnson) are the most coveted Players in this Draft.
I have Joeckel & Fisher going 1 & 2 in the Draft to the Chiefs and Jaguars
With the Raiders selecting DT Shariff Floyd,out of sheer necessity, since they lost DT’s from their Roster in Free-Agency/Salary Cap moves
Leaving the Eagles at #4 with the last top OT on the board in Lane Johnson who is coveted by the Chargers,Panthers and Dolphins big time since theseTeams are struggling for an OT.. Should be interesting as the Eagles should get some offers for Him…
Top 10 draft Selections
1) Chiefs -OT L Joeckel
2) Jaguars – OT E Fisher
3) Raiders – DT S Floyd
4) EAGLES – OT Lane Johnson
5) Lions – DE E Ansah
6) Browns – OLB D Jordan
7) Caedinals – Guard C Warmack
8) Bills – Guard J Cooper
9) Jets – CB Dee Milliner
10) Titans – DT Star Lotuleile
Jets trade Revis to TB Bucs and replace
him with Millner
I guess Andre Smith, Tyson Clabo, and Winston are licking their chops at your mock
These 3 OT’s will sign Deals shortly after the Draft
Most likely landing Spots/Teams that will sign them
Chargers, Jets, Panthers & Lions
It appears the Chiefs will Trade OT Brandon Albert to Miami Dolphins for a 2Nd Rounder and Draft OT Joeckel with 1st Pick and get their 2Nd Round Pick from Dolphins for Albert to replace the Pick that went to the 49ers for QB Alex Smith.. Chiefs have had an excellent Off-Season and Coch AR has a great Staff, if Alex Smith plays well, watch out for them in 2013..
I still think Andre Smith is play for the Eagles……as a Guard, and Possibly Winston, as the new RT, unless they draft Fisher.
LT- Jason Peters
LG- Larry Warford
C- Jason Kelce/ Brian Schwenke
RG- DJ Fluker
RT – Eric Fisher
This would be the makings of an awesome and dominate OL,Cliff
GM, Paul,……But you know Howie doesn’t listen to us. So lets see how this years crop of draftees goes. How about this LB Core:
ROLB – Ezekiel Ansah
RILB – Jamie Collins
LILB – Myckal Kendricks
LOLB – Dion Jordan
Starting 3 man front:
DE – Fletcher Cox
NT – Kevin Williams
DE – Star Lotululei / Sheldon Richardson
Is Kevin WIlliams still playing.. Is he a Free-Agent ..
from th VIkings ??
He hasn’t signed with anyone yet. Yes he is an UFA…..I have him play in front of Sopoaga, and draft Brandon Williams, and Montori Hughes, for depth…..and I cut Antonio Dixon……
I want:
OT 1st
CB 2nd
OG 3rd
C 4th
but best available takes precedence. I want points and lots of them this season. A backup TE in James Casey addition combined with 17 points a game last year still is a vote of no confidence. I liked Howie and was in his corner up until the Billy Davis hire — the 2012 draft ( Cox, Kendricks, Curry drafted for 4-3 by GM) and switch to 3-4 bothers me.
I think a big DE is needed by the 2nd/3rd Round to anchor the 3-4
DE Position.. I believe Cole, Curry and possibly Graham will all be gone by 2014 since they are not a natural fit for this scheme..
I expect Cole to be Traded or released,
Gragam will get this season at OLB and Curry this Season at DE since they are still young, relatively cheap and really not much to lose to see if they adjust
to the new schemes, but Tent Cole is a goner..
On OL, I believe they give Watkins a final chance,
But if it’s apparent that he struggles with new schemes and OL Coach, then he’s a goner, if Watkins looks good and takes to new schemes, than
Todd Herremans is the odd-man, Player out..
Trade down with Miami- #4 for #12 & 42. Trade Cole to Tennesse #70.
#12- NT/DE Star Lotulelei ~ NT/DE Sheldon Richardson
#35- CB Jonathan Banks
#42- RT Kyle Long
#67- OLB Jaime Collins
#70- SS/FS DJ Swearinger
#101- ILB Kiko Alonzo ~ FS Bacarri Rambo
draft week – can’t wait until Jon Hart posts trade details so I know what is really going on at the end of the week
To DCar,
Miami is about to acquire OT Brandon Albert from the Chiefs
Why would they want to trade up with the Eagles for their #4 Pick
Who are after that they would want to move up for..
Not unless he lessens his contract demands, they ain’t. Dude is asking for top LT $$$$. Dude is flat out delusional & insane!
I believe LT B Albert was graded as giving up 1 Sack last year on a Team with Poor QB Play.. So he had a Great Season last Year..
Also is a very good Run Blocker..
One thing for sure about the TB Bucs acquiring CB Revis
To go along with Safety Goldston, 2nd Year Safety Mark Barron
And CB Eric Wright is that they have addressed their weak spot
Of a poor Secondary in recent Years.. They have 3-4 First Round Picks along their DL and if they get some LB Play, they could be a pretty good Defense
And a Playoff Contendors even in the High-Scoring NFC South with Falcons, Saints and Oanthers Offenses & QB’s..
QB Josh Freeman is in Contract Year and has big incentive $$$ wise to have his best season.. TB Bucs have a lot of Talent