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Baldinger: Kevin Kolb Hasn’t Proven He Can Start In The NFL

NFL Network analyst Brian Baldinger is on 97.5 The Fanatic this afternoon with Johnny Marks and he hasn’t had much good to say about Eagles backup quarterback Kevin Kolb, who is one of the most talked about players in the league, right now.

Baldinger had been a big proponent of Kolb’s last off season when the quarterback was named the starter, but the Eagles backup quarterback didn’t impress him with the way he played a year ago.

He said he didn’t like the way Kolb had played when put under pass rush pressure this past season. Baldinger pointed out that Kolb was sacked at a higher percentage than any other quarterback in the league. Number 4 was sacked 16 times this season while only throwing the ball 189 times. That’s a huge percentage and not far from being sacked 10% of the time.

Most onlookers blamed poor offensive line play for the sacks which Kolb suffered, but the former Eagles offensive lineman said Kolb caused some of the sacks because he didn’t stand strong in the pocket

Baldy pointed out that Kolb would try to escape from the pressure rather than stepping up and delivering the football.

The NFL analyst doesn’t have confidence that Kolb will stay in the pocket when under pressure, take the hit and deliver the football. He stated time and time again that he didn’t think Kolb was ready to be a starter in the league right now. That’s very strong to say that a guy who the Eagles had named the starter a year ago isn’t ready to be a starter in the NFL right now.

Baldinger doesn’t think the Eagles can get a first round pick for Kolb. He took issue with Paul Domowitch’s belief that the Birds will easily be able to acquire a first round pick for the backup signal-caller. With all of the teams who need a quarterback in the league, if Kolb can’t fetch a first round pick now, he’ll never be able to be worth one.

I hope none of the teams who were considering trading for Kolb hear what Baldy had to say because if they did, they might reconsider doing it.

GCOBB

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Stevo
Stevo
February 28, 2011 4:49 pm

Shhhhhhh baldy dont point the obvious out till we trade the guy pleaaaaaase!!!

nev856
nev856
February 28, 2011 4:55 pm

this cba is definatly not helping our situtation here.!

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
February 28, 2011 5:07 pm

Someone tell him to shut up. He’s gonna mess up his trade value LOL.

No but seriously, I don’t think Kolb has proven he can be a starter BUT that’s not his fault. He was drafted to backup the staple of the organization for the past decade and then got supplanted by one that was clearly better (which I suppose would be Andy’s reason) at this point in time and has great potential. So it’s not Kolb’s fault but he hasn’t proven anything. But the thing is that it’s a lot safer to go with him than any QB in the draft. There are no QBs in the draft that are lock franchise QBs. So even though Kolb hasn’t proven himself either way, he most likely has a better shot at being successful than anyone in the draft and he’s the less risky players and most ready to play an NFL game right now.

scorpiodsu
scorpiodsu
February 28, 2011 5:12 pm

Baldy is right though, Kolb broke from the pocket way too early at times. Once he gets hit, it’s downhill from there. If he doesn’t get touched and is playing a non-aggressive defense like the Falcons he looks great because he can pick that apart. But playing against an aggressive defense, he runs away too early and gets shell shocked after being hit. He definitely couldn’t (probably still can’t) just stand there in the face of a oncoming hit and deliver the ball and get back up with the same confidence. But the rest of the league doesn’t need to know that.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
February 28, 2011 5:35 pm

Kolb has started 7 games and has two offensive player of the week awards. I think he’s proven that he can start in the NFL more than any rookie coming into the league that gets a starting job.

ozzman
ozzman
February 28, 2011 6:27 pm

Only the local hacks in the media here believe Kolb is worth anything. Everyone else knows the kids is a tomato can.

paulman
paulman
February 28, 2011 6:30 pm

Kolb played like a QB who lacks game experience and trust behind his OL
which is normal for a QB who has only 6-8 Starts in the NFL..
To say he’s worth a 1st Round pick is probably a stretch for I don’t believe has that “it” factor, but to say he is a bust and no good at all is not accurate either.
If the Eagles can get a 2nd Round and a 4th Round, I take it as GM Paulman, If I can get a better deal then so much the better.. I we have to exchange 1st Rd picks.. like give up our #23rd Overall pick to get a Top #12
pick ad another pick in return (3rd or a 4th Rounder) as GM, I would take it..

pheags88
pheags88
February 28, 2011 6:31 pm

“I hope none of the teams who were considering trading for Kolb hear what Baldy had to say because if they did, they might reconsider doing it.”

GCOBB really. I hope you were not serious about this statement cuz i know your smarter than that.

Baldy also said that Samuel and D. Patterson(yes Dpatterson) were the best corner tandem in the league this year at one point….I guess he didnt foresee the Eagles giving up the most passing tds in redzone history this year? If you really thinkg NFL organizations listen to Baldy you must be insane or high on something.

pheags88
pheags88
February 28, 2011 6:33 pm

The fact is noone can know if Kolb is a future NFL starter after only 7 starts. I wonder what Vicks,Rodgers,Bradys,Manning, stats were at after 7 starts? Kolb has played against NFL defenses and put up 2 offensive player of the week awards in 7 starts, which is much better to what anyone coming in the draft can say. Kolb may be rly good…he may rly suck…but noone knows yet
and teams will rather give up a number 1 draft pick on a QB who will make basically nothing next year and who has atleast some playing experience against NFL players and who has had success at times as well over the lack of talent in the Qb draft this year who are complete mysterious and who are going to cost more money.

paulman
paulman
February 28, 2011 6:43 pm

One thing that a team in need can count on about Kolb which is a plus for the Eagles is that he will work hard, be a good teammate and has a strong deisre to be a leader and a winner in the NFL..
With any QB you draft out of College, you cannot be certain of these qualities which are paramount if you want to be a face of the Franchise..
So I do give him a leg up on these real uncertainties that many of these QB’s have that are in the draft..

MaybeTheyCan
MaybeTheyCan
February 28, 2011 6:47 pm

@Paulman – Well said. Like others have pointed out, there is much more to go on than any QB in the draft. Because there is so much more to see of Kolb in the NFL for a few years and saw that he still shows good potential makes him much less of a risk than any other QB on the draft board. I think he’s absolutley worth a high 2nd round and a 3rd if not a 1st round pick.

jott1972
jott1972
February 28, 2011 7:17 pm

haha..i agree with Baldy… Kolb has done nothing special and we are talking 1st rounder in return …. I would take a 2nd rounder and be happy.

jott1972
jott1972
February 28, 2011 7:18 pm

@paulman…I would package Kolb and #23 to get a stud defensive player not an o-lineman like Reid would pick…

paulman
paulman
February 28, 2011 7:21 pm

Not to change gears.. Here are some big names released from their Current teams and are free to sign a deal with another team by Thursday.. You will see a bunch more released tommorrow on 3/1

Jets release 4 players — OG D Woody, DE V Gholston, DT K Jenkins and
LB J Taylor
Redskins release RB C Portis

Many Veteran players due a nice roster Bonus this Spring, who are now on the downside of their careers or coming off a major injury or maybe lost their Starting job to a younger players can expect to see the name on the Waiver Wire in the next 48 hours

paulman
paulman
February 28, 2011 7:25 pm

I stated a package of Kolb, the Eagles #23 Pick to the 49ers for their #7 Overall
and their 3rd and 4th Round picks would be a great move..

With the 7th pick I would select CB Peterson if still on the boad, and if not,
then DT M Dareus, and then DE C Jordan..

paulman
paulman
February 28, 2011 7:43 pm

Not to be cruel to anyone,
But you may see the Eagles release FB L Weaver and DE V Abriami tommorrow…

drummerwinslow
drummerwinslow
February 28, 2011 8:45 pm

Considering where/how Kolb was drafted, coupled with the time he was given to learn the system, I’m convinced that he’s no franchise QB.

In his best game, we ran the ball 54% of the time, which says a lot about how Reid viewed the guy.

Additionally, when Reid anointed Kolb the starter then did a complete reversal, that was a very clear message that he just didn’t believe in Kolb.

If Kolb were a good QB in the making, Reid would have stuck with him. After all, Kolb had youth and “marketability” on his side and Reid had a 3-year extension and a patient fan base working for him.

The team took a huge risk in naming Vick the starter, especially after hyping Kolb and trading McNabb. They had no idea whether Vick would ever be accepted. In fact, based on previous fan reaction, there couldn’t have been much optimism.

I don’t think the team would have risked alienating its fan base if Kolb had showed signs of greatness. Instead, he showed signs of a great mess – throwing into coverage, putting the ball up for grabs, missing open receivers and bailing on plays before they could develop.

All the talk about a quick release and quick reads taking the pressure off of the offensive line was just that – talk. And once the league saw that he couldn’t go deep, Kolb’s fate was sealed.

Kolb lacks arms strength, quickness/escapability, toughness and polish. What’s he going to lean on when the offense comes to rely on him?

I doubt he’ll be a starter for very long, but some team will probably pay highly for his services.

BigE
BigE
February 28, 2011 8:53 pm

You would think he would be ready with Andy Reid,” the greatest QB coach of all times” showing him the ropes for all those years, not to mention Kolb’s hog hunting with just a knife would indicate that he is tough under fire.

hot97x
hot97x
February 28, 2011 10:08 pm

Paulman: so you don’t think Kolb is worth a 1st, which i agree with, but you think the niners would trade what equates to a late 1st round pick (#24 to be exact using the nfl draft value chart) plus a 3rd and a 4th? that deal ends up being equal to #24, #71, and #103 for Kolb. not gonna happen.

Beijingjake
Beijingjake
March 1, 2011 6:21 am

Remind you guys, that a player’s “worth” is whatever another is willing to give up for him…

nsidious
nsidious
March 1, 2011 9:04 am

G:
I won’t say that it’s nonsense because I respect Brian Baldinger and his opinions. I will say that he’s wrong. But I don’t care that he’s loweing the value of Kolb. I’d rather keep Kolb because Mike Vick WILL get hurt this year if there’s a season, and Kolb has proven that he can win some games for the Eagles. Did he beat Green Bay? No. But he ran the offense well.
Unless we get at least a first rounder and a high third rounder forget it. He’s more valuable to us. And I don’t care that he wants to start. He’s getting more money than my entire 5 sibling family and me make over a couple of years. And that’s to stand and wait until the inevitable happens. Deal with it and take advantage of opportunity.

paulman
paulman
March 1, 2011 9:12 am

You are correct BeijingJake..
Who would have thought that OF Jason Werth was “worth” $120 Million as an example…

runtheball09
runtheball09
March 1, 2011 9:53 am

This coming from the same man that liked Jamarcus Russell. His eyes tell me all I need to know.

pheags88
pheags88
March 1, 2011 1:01 pm

Baldy also said that McNabb was one of the most overrated Qbs in NFL History

paulman
paulman
March 1, 2011 1:11 pm

H

paulman
paulman
March 1, 2011 1:28 pm

I would have to agree with Baldinger on that one..
McNabb a good NFL Qb but never in an Elite Class adn defintiely not a HOF
by Paulman’s Standards..

MosbergSwerve
MosbergSwerve
March 1, 2011 3:40 pm

Hey awesome, SHUT UP! I sell loads of this guys cards on eBay and all they hype has made his stock jump over 200%. Keep the commentary positive! Besides that I am still excited for the guy and believe he will do great wherever he goes, as long as he get’s the opportunity to prove himself. I’m a smart investor or at least would like to believe so. I wouldn’t have shelled out $3,000 if I thought otherwise. GO KOLB!

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 1, 2011 6:04 pm

When they drafted him …we all said, “KOLB WHO”?

A team that needed a few playmakers to get over the proverbial hump instead traded down and got a player who could not help the team of the “then” present, and labeled the quarterback of the future.

Well Folks……This is the future the organization was talking about.

The talent that could have helped us immediately has helped another team while we’re wondering what we can get in return for a player we shouldn’t have drafted in the first place.

Philadelphia

How long will we let this organization sell us their grand plan for the future?

Remember we were told this guy would have the accuracy we sore missed with Mcnabb and we will finally see how the WCO is run?

The new number “4” with grit.

Here’s the future folks.

I gave this loser a two game leash which was generous.

Get him the hell outta here!!!!

He only reminds me of another failure this organization sold us instead of picking the player we needed.

wheel barrel..READY

pheags88
pheags88
March 1, 2011 7:19 pm

Songs you must be McNabbs mom or sumtin…everyone is this city has been completely over and for the most part happy over McNabbs departure except you. No one in this city misses the guy. I have respect for what the guy did over his tenure and wish him well. But the man let this city down and down again with his flaws in big games for over a decade. Over a damn decade. This whole city needed a new QB no matter who it was and the situation we have here now with Vick and (Kolb for potential trade bait) is a positive. Anyone with a brain that looks at that trade knows the Eagles got the better deal. The redskins are going to be miserable for atleast the next 5 years or more.

If you cant let go, just go root for the redskins.

Actually nevermind he prolly wont be on that team anymore cuz they couldn’t stand the flaws that we lived with for over a decade after only 1 season..he will prolly need that wheel barrel you keep talking about

SONGSRME2
SONGSRME2
March 1, 2011 8:59 pm

Pheagss……why don’t you read the comment I posted again and answer to the content within the comment.

Again…you’re the only one here mentioning Mcnabb or his mom.

I gave an Eagles comment

The Eagles would have been a better team if we actually picked a player who could help the team win instead of KOLB!

Is that true or false?

Deal with the comment instead of shifting and ignoring the point.

paulman
paulman
March 1, 2011 9:18 pm

To Hot97x
Maybe the Eagles can throw in WR Chad Hall and RB Eldra Buckley in my proposed deal to the 49ers.. That should seal the deal..

hot97x
hot97x
March 1, 2011 10:43 pm

what use would the 49ers have for either of those players? do you think eldra buckley and chad hall are worth 3rd and 4th round picks? why would any team trade picks for those guys when they can get higher skilled players with those 2 picks? nothing you have suggested here makes any sense whatsoever. futhermore, im not sure a team like the 49ers, with a QB guru for a coach wouldn’t rather just select a guy in the draft that they can control for 4-5 years and coach up himself.

paulman
paulman
March 2, 2011 12:02 am

I’m kidding Hot97x
I wouldn’t think any team in the NFL would be all that interested in Hall/Buckley
I Agree that Coach HArbaugh wants a QB he can coach up himself but the 49ers have spent a ton of $$$ the last 2 seasons and don’t have time to draft a young guy and wait 2-3 to develop, they are built to win now and are missing a legitimate NFL QB which Kolb could be that missing piece or maybe Carson Palmer or even a D McNabb. The 49ers have 10 total Draft picks this Draft which is shaping up to be a mediocre and pretty weak one after the 4th Round so why not take a chance if your the 49ers and in the weak division that they play in, it shouldn’t take too much to become a Divsion winner relatively quickly..

FanSince1960
FanSince1960
March 2, 2011 12:08 am

Eventually the wheelbarrow comes for everyone. It just came about 4 years late for McNabb. BigE, I loved your comment above. It was vintage BigE. And I’m glad you referenced Kolb’s wild boar-stabbing skills. No one ever mentions it!

pheags88
pheags88
March 2, 2011 12:16 pm

“Remember we were told this guy would have the accuracy we sore missed with Mcnabb and we will finally see how the WCO is run?”

Songs, I mentioned McNabb because you mentioned McNabb in your post above. You basically mention McNabbs departure in almost everyone one of your posts in some way. In reference to your statement above that was in your post..the entire city was ready for another QB no matter who it was. No one here could go through another season of balls being thrown behind,over, away from receivers or in the dirt anymore. And then on top of that a QB blaming others like the youth of the team when he is the QB. One thing I like about Vick is that he takes responsibilty of the Eagles loosing when he plays bad unlike #5. I just dont get why you continue to mention McNabb in most of your posts when the situation we have here now with Vick and Kolb for trade bait is far better than what we would have here if we still just had McNabb. McNabb can keep waiting for that resurrection of his career to happen but it wont be in the NFL. And the Eagles are far better off without him right now.

pheags88
pheags88
March 2, 2011 12:29 pm

Also, everyone on here that has obviously read your posts know that you have no faith in the Eagles FO or Reid. And you have a right to feel that way if you want. But what doesnt make sense is for you then to assume if the Eagles didn’t draft Kolb they would of drafted some other player that would have helped them immediately get over the hump and win a super bowl. Because based on your logic you never have faith in the FO/Reid to pick the right players but you have all the faith in the world that if they didnt draft Kolb they would have. Thats contradicting logic right there.

If the CBA could get done, the Eagles could move Kolb now that his value is as high as it will ever be. In which we could possibly get something better like a number 1 or multiple draft picks.

jakedog
jakedog
March 2, 2011 12:37 pm

well done pheags, are you a lawyer or something with that cross-exam of songs?

hot97x
hot97x
March 2, 2011 1:46 pm

Paulman, i don’t see that the 49ers are built to win now at all. they CAN win now with even a decent quarterback in that division, but most of there more talented players will be in there primes for another 8 years. heck, they could have won the division this year with any reasonable offensive coaching in place. they haven’t really spent all that much money the past 2 years either. they have signed patrick willis and vernon davis to long term deals but they are still in a very good cap situation (assuming there is one still).

if they are looking to bridge the gap for a rookie, they would probably go after a josh johnson, someone harbaugh made into the most efficient passer in the nation while at SDSU, and they could probably get for a 4th round pick or less. furthermore they have other very pressing needs on defense for a CB and pass rushing OLB that they very well may need that #7 pick to obtain. im not saying they wouldn’t be interested in Kolb, but my feeling is that Harbaugh would rather get HIS guy in the draft rather than give up that #7 pick for Kolb who may only be a slightly above average QB.

none of this is going to matter if there is no cba in place before the draft.

Thiklan
Thiklan
March 2, 2011 4:17 pm

Said it last year after attending Flight Night (only part of camp I saw live) and I’ll say it again: you practice like you play. #4 was scrambling with the red jersey on over half of the snaps when there was no QB contact allowed. He developed that bad habit not wanting to commit the turnover and holding the ball too long, even in PRACTICE. Dude needs to stay in the pocket, step up, learn to place his throws in safe spots, so if coverage is tight, there’s only one guy who has a chance at the ball. Brees and even Sheli at times can read a route and defender and go back shoulder or otherwise away from the defender, Kolb tries to hard for the “in stride” yards after catch placement, and it isn’t always there on a silver platter.

I’d trade him for anything worthwhile – then the Eagles can waste more picks on undersized LB’s again…

YouNeedJesus
YouNeedJesus
March 4, 2011 6:36 am

Kolb cant play, he’s too jittery, has no arm and is basically another version of AJ Feeley. Thats what he is, No way comparable to Aaron Rodgers or lol Brett Favre which is what I heard when he was drafted. The Eagles will find a sucker and dump him, they will also draft a QB this year and try again to develop him for the future.