• October 5, 2022

Andre Iguodala For Monta Ellis: Does It Make Sense For Sixers?

The trade rumors involving the Philadelphia 76ers’ Andre Iguodala have surfaced once again and this time they may stick. According to ESPN’s Ric Bucher the Sixers would send Iguodala to the Golden State Warriors for shooting guard Monta Ellis in what would be a straight-up deal.

Financially, the deal works for both teams and gives the Warriors a perimeter defender in Iguodala and the Sixers would get some much needed scoring punch in Ellis who averaged 24 ppg. last season.. Bucher also states that Iguodala would be open to a trade. At this time no deal is
imminent.

And as much as I would like to see Iguodala moved, lets look this deal over before we make any sudden decisions.

First the cons of the deal:

1. With Jrue Holiday at 6’4″ and Ellis at 6’3″, the Sixers would have one of the smaller backcourts in the NBA again this season. And while Ellis is a dramatic upgrade from Jodie Meeks, But without a perimeter defender, the Sixers would be outmatched when it comes to dealing with some the bigger two-guards in the league.

2. Is Ellis much different than Lou Williams? Williams is the same type of streaky shooter as Ellis, and would probably produce close to the same numbers if he played 40 mpg.

3. We saw last season how productive Holiday, Meeks and Evan Turner can be when they have the ball in their hands. There’s a possibility that the addition of Ellis, who attempted over 1,600 shots last season could disrupt that.

4. The Sixers are still in need of front court help…

Now the pros of this deal:

1.The Sixers would gain a needed scorer and “go-to” player down the stretch in close games. Gone would be Iguodala dribbling the clock down to hoist that fading 19-footer.

2. The thought of a backcourt of Holiday and Ellis – smallish, yet entertaining.

3.Thaddeus Young gets a well-deserved contract and a chance at the starting small forward spot. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that Young could be just as effective as Iguodala as a perimeter/post defender?

4. Good for cap space. Ellis deal is $11 million over each of the next three seasons, while Iguodala’s is at $13.5 next season and will increase by $1.2 over the next two seasons. With the Sixers current cap situation any loose change helps.

5. A good young team. Ellis is 25 and would be on one of the better younger teams in the NBA.

6. Believe in Collins. Doug Collins worked miracles without a primary scorer last season, I’m sure he’ll get Ellis to buy into whatever he’s selling if it ultimately means winning.

Stay Tuned…

Ron Glover

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sullybleedsgreen
sullybleedsgreen
June 7, 2011 4:51 pm

I love it Pack Iggies bags and send him to Cali !!!

paulman
paulman
June 7, 2011 5:36 pm

Sixers trade Iggy and J Kapono to the Warriors for M Ellis and PF Vladi Radmonovic..
(The Salaries are pretty close between both players for each team)

Erock
Erock
June 7, 2011 5:45 pm

Your losing some defense but D.c. would manage that. Good point Paul get a banger…would eleviate the defensive loss.

Ron.How would they look with Nene?

RonGlover
June 7, 2011 5:56 pm

Erock, I’ve been beating the drum for Nene or Greg Oden since March/April. Nene and Ellis would change the look of this team drastically. We would be talking challenging for the division.

DDCar
DDCar
June 7, 2011 6:01 pm

There are zero cons to this deal! Get this overrated, inflated ego, waste of sperm off of this team! I’m sick of his wanna be fade away’s, him dribbling through 5 guys, & his self proclaimed greatness. I’m also sick of his Pete the Puma underbite. He sucks Rhino balls & if were GM, I would trade him for a rack of basketballs. I’d even drive his loser ass to Philly International. Get Ellis, then you’ll have Jrue, Ellis, & Thad at 1 2 3. Work in Turner as a 2 3 swingman, Lou Williams at 2. Hopefully they can get someone dumb enough to get Eltons ass out of here too. Who cares about the back courts size. It’s like you have 2 6 footers. 6’4″ & 6’3″ is just about average. They too get these bad contracts out of here & start over.

RonGlover
June 7, 2011 6:18 pm

DDCar, I’m impressed with the Pete Puma reference, “I don’t like tea, it gives me a headache.” LMAO!

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 7, 2011 6:42 pm

A very smart poster by the name of Eagles Bird Gang mentioned a long time ago that the sixers should ship iggy outta town, and look to acquire Greg Oden in the off-season… I agree with that, as long as we get equal or greater value for iggy. Monte ellis is a good scorer but that makes our back court on the smallish side. Holiday is 6’4 and monte ellis is 6’3 but can score the ball. I fear teams will take advantage of our lack of size there…

Id prefer them look into acquiring someone like Gerald wallace who can score the ball and defend. actually if all went well last year the sixers could have traded Thad young and elton brand for gerald wallace and greg oden bc the numbers matched up… that would have been a great deal for us…

But again Iggy does need to get traded, its about that time. I see nomore upside for him. Hes had his opportunity to improve his offensive game yet still in his 7th year hasnt done that, it seems to me that he doesnt really wanna be back here… so hopefully the sixers are serious about moving him… but for the right deal not just for the sake of moving him…

DDCar
DDCar
June 7, 2011 6:43 pm

1 LUMP OR 2. LMBO! God IGGY has a rough grill, man.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
June 7, 2011 8:53 pm

OMG — and I don’t usually use that acronym, but if this happens….man…Ellis is a baller and ready to be a SUPERSTAR in this league.

I like Jrue, Ellis, Thad, Elton Brand and…..insert free agent/draft center here.

We will definitely have a go-to scorer too….haven’t had one since Iverson, love it. Make the deal.

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
June 7, 2011 9:24 pm

Hmmm… the 6ers need a good shooter. Ellis is a good shooter. He also makes less money than Iggy. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 7, 2011 9:32 pm

Birdo, Iggy for gerald wallace would be better… but i agree with the monte ellis point bc this guy is capable of putting up 30, 40 points on any givin night, i can count on my hands how many times iggy cracked the 30 point mark… Alot of the games we lost last year n previous years was due to the fact that they needed a consistent scorer but didnt have that… I wouldnt be mad if the deal was made…

bugsyhawk
bugsyhawk
June 7, 2011 9:48 pm

Wallace is about 4 years older and he is a 3. I would rather have a strong SG and give Young more minutes.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 7, 2011 9:58 pm

Nah Bugs wallace can play both positions, he defends sg and sf. Hes allstar caliber SG. he can do it all on the court… Hes another iguodala but can score way better and more consistently…

SportsBum
SportsBum
June 7, 2011 10:05 pm

It wouldn’t be a big deal if we had Monta and Jrue as our back court. The 76ers did the best when they had either Jrue/Jodie, Jrue/Lou, or Lou/Jodie in the back court anyway, and they were all a small back court.

paulman
paulman
June 7, 2011 10:34 pm

Anyone hear if the Flyers released any other “Goalies” from their Organization
today…. Good Grief…

Phantastic_Phour
Phantastic_Phour
June 7, 2011 11:13 pm

Why does everyone hate on iggy? Its not his fault that he was made the go to guy when he is more of a secondary option. I like this idea, but doubt it will get done… and j. Holliday isn’t undersized. But if we get monta, then what do we do about lou?

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 7, 2011 11:18 pm

Id rather have Marc or Pau Gasol, gerald wallace or rudy gay. Monta ellis can be a good player for us but in order to contend in the east we need size. The heat have a big squad so we need size and athletisim… losing iggy would be huge so we need equal or greater value…

SportsBum
SportsBum
June 7, 2011 11:31 pm

I’d rather have Kobe Bryant, Lebron, etc. No one is gonna give up that for Iggy. We aren’t getting any Gasol, Wallace or Gay for Iggy. We are lucky that GS seems to be willing to part with Monta for Iggy. We need a scorer and this is the best we are gonna get. We aren’t getting smaller, because we played Meeks at SG anyway. We are just getting better scoring and losing some D.

DDCar
DDCar
June 8, 2011 1:13 am

Let’s face it guy’s, Iggy for Ellis is a steal for us if it goes through. You get rid of this overrated, over payed stiff, & you get a guy who is a natural 2, scores 25+ a night, is younger & cheaper than Iggy. Also don’t you think playing under a real coach like Collins will benefit Ellis in getting better in his all around game. If I hear about Iggy being a shut down defensive player again, i’m going to puke. HE F^@&ING SUCKS! GOODBYE!

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 5:39 am

Wallace would be a nice fit but Portland isn’t giving him up. Knowing that Brandon Roy can go down at any given time Wallace can move to the “two” if needed. I think he’s an exceptional rebounded for his size. He spent some time at the “four” in Charlotte. Portland has a multi-faceted player in Wallace and for a good price for the next season or two.

paulman
paulman
June 8, 2011 7:12 am

Wallace a very underrated players and very versatile and will turn 29 next month, but has a good 3-4 years left as he’s had very little injury issues during his career.. An excellet defender, good rebounder and a good locker room guy who can bring energy,experiences and score from almost anywhere on the court but is at his best slashing to the bucket but can hit th eoutside jump shot too..

zoltek
zoltek
June 8, 2011 9:19 am

I think that the warriors are going to have to give up more than just ellis to get iggy. Many people hate him, for whatever reason… but he is a better overall player than ellis, I dont think they need the salary to match up as much as the sixers want to match up talent wise. Ellis can just score, he’s not a great passer, shooter, or defender… Dont get me wrong, I’d have no problem with the sixers getting him, but people that would be happy for a straight swap, dont know much about ellis.

DDCar
DDCar
June 8, 2011 9:46 am

They can’t give much more, the salaries have to be comparable, & Ellis is only a million + less. The only way to get more is to make the trade multi player. BTW, what do you mean “just Ellis”. IGGY is an overrated, over paid, bum. Ellis is twice the player he is. Give me a break with these IGGY lovers.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
June 8, 2011 9:55 am

Zoltek, you’re an effin idiot. Seriously. To have the audacity to come on here and say Iggy is a better player than Ellis, you need to just find the highest bridge you can find and jump off.

And all this talk about Iggy’s defense is overhyped. His defense was real legit on D-Wade and Lebron in round 1 wasn’t it? SMH. Shawn Marion is showing what a true defensive player is capable of. Team defense is more important than individual defense in the NBA. If the old and short Dallas Mavs can do it and be succesful, we can too.

DDCar
DDCar
June 8, 2011 10:06 am

You talk about Ellis’s all around game. Lets discuss Iggys. The worst 3 point % in NBA history (documented), horrible outside game, doesn’t take the ball to the hoop or get fouls, can’t make clutch shots or pass, & makes absolutely no one else around him better. OOOOH he dunks alley oops & is a solid defender. BIG WHOOPTY FREAKEN DOO! Ellis averages 25 a game, 5 assists for a 2 guard, 2.5 steals, he is lightning quick, gets to the line often, creates his own shot, & his FG % is better than any 2 guard we have. Is a natural 2 that we don’t have. Not to mention younger & cheaper. Put Ellis with Collins & he instantly better. Iggy & Collins do not get along because Iggy won’t change or listen. Good by good bye don’t let the door spank you. Go younger & cheaper.

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 10:06 am

The salaries can’t get much closer without adding other players or another team. Ellis aveeraged 5.6 assists last season and about 4 for his career. Not bad for a guy that puts the ball up.

Swing this deal and dangle that #16 pick and whatever else at Memphis for Marc Gasol.

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 10:08 am

Or Nene.

DDCar
DDCar
June 8, 2011 10:17 am

Ron how sweet would it be if they could get Nene in a separate deal? I’d take a chance on Oden too, 10,000 injuries & all. Man I wish we could get an ass clown to take Brands contract off our hands.

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 10:32 am

It would be nice, I can deal with Brand for another season as long as I don’t look at what he’s gettin paid. I softened up on him when I found out about the broken hand but if a taker came along, I’d hold the door open for him.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 8, 2011 10:54 am

As i said before Gerald Wallace would make more sense then Monta ellis.. I said before they could have traded Brand and Thad young for wallace and oden if everyone was healthy and if wallace was already on the roster this yr… Id take wallace over ellis anyday of the week. Hes 28 going on 29 yrs old n its no big deal, Wade is 28 n we dont make a big deal about it… Wallace would be a huge upgrade from iggy on the offensive side of the ball, this guy has come a long way with his game, he can defend, score rebound block shots he has the complete game… There is certainly life after Andre Iguodala…

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 8, 2011 11:05 am

Ron, but have you noticed that brand is never fully healthy? He has the body of someone thats been hit by a mack truck 10 times, i cant really sympathize with him anymore, we need a consistently durable PF, not a guy walking out there with limbs falling off… i do want Oden but im more willing to take a chance on him because he has the chance to be a game changing center if healthy, his defense alone is something to talk about, then hes 7’0 and a force in the paint on defense. Something we need…

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 11:20 am

I’ve seen Brand all season, and I would move him given the chance but he’s probably not going to come off until next season. I’m being realistic about this, I don’t deal in fantasy.

zoltek
zoltek
June 8, 2011 11:58 am

Kobe is not known for passing the ball, and he averages 5 assists a year, so that doesnt mean anything. I am not even an iguodala fan, I’m not a hater either, he takes horrible shots constantly, and would put up 23 a game if he just went to the basket more… regardless, you are getting a 1 dimensional scorer, for a guy that can put up double-doubles every night if he had his head in the game. All I’m saying is that iggy is a better overall player than ellis, and is exactly what I said… I would like to see him grow more under collins personally.

Andre has been the only player (besides now thaddeus every now and then) with any sort of offensive game on the sixers for the last few years, he draws the defense, every game… the warriors however have curry, lee, ellis, and wright who can all put up 20 a game. I just feel that iguodala will be missed more than people think.

The sixers have a good core of young guys, and I agree that he should be traded… but I think they could use a guy thats more of a shooter than a guy that gets to the basket and needs the ball to produce, and that plays zero defense, and not just jump on the first trade offer.

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 12:09 pm

When you said that he wasn’t a good passer you meant as far as assisting the ball right? I think averaging 5 assists for a two guard is decent since all he does is shoot.

Some of what you’re saying is in the piece

Iguodala isn’t going to grow under Collins, neither is anyone else if he stays here. I’m not saying jump at the first deal either but I believe that it’s time for Iggy to go.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 8, 2011 12:21 pm

You said you softened up to him after learning about his hand, uh what about all the other seasons hes been here and has been hurt? This is no different.

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 12:26 pm

He couldn’t play with the shoulder injury. He played and started in 81 games this season and played with a broken hand since March.

Feel free to gush about LeBron on the latest post. I see you avoid them after loses.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
June 8, 2011 12:57 pm

LMAO @ Ron — anyways Jon Hart? Your boy Lebron is exactly what I said he is, LEBUM. When someone of his size guards him and can ALMOST match him athletically, he can’t produce. He made his living picking on defenders smaller then him, you see what happens in a 7 game series when the defender he’s facing is legit. Best player in the NBA my azz — not even close.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 8, 2011 1:16 pm

Ron, you still make no sense with the fact that brand is known for being ijury prone, now your impressed with him playing with a bum hand? That makes no sense whatsoever…

zoltek
zoltek
June 8, 2011 1:18 pm

well I mean his passing skills are not his strong point… at golden state, he would drive the lane, if he got caught up, he would kick it to wright, or lee to finish the play off… he is not a play maker unless he has the ball… he’s not like a rondo, or rose type guard, even though they are both 1’s

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 8, 2011 1:23 pm

Im not avoiding them at all, it was a tough game all throughout. Lebron didnt play his best, he ll be ready for game 5. The name calling of lebron is absurd. He is the 2nd best player in the NBA. He just needs to calm down and play his game. Lebron dominates whoever defends him wtf are you talking about? He just had a off game relax…

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 1:34 pm

No one is denying Brand is injury prone people said he was doggin it with the bum shoulder and all, I was just giving him props for gutting it out with a broken hand. I could care less what makes sense to you. That’s what you need to come to grips with.

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 1:35 pm

I feel you on that zoltek.

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 1:37 pm

I will go out on a limb and say that their most consistent player in the playoffs has probably been Bosh.

There Jon, you can make him your #1 player in the NBA for this week.

BirdoBeamen
BirdoBeamen
June 8, 2011 1:38 pm

Lebron hasn’t dominated this series. He gets matched up against smaller guards/forwards most of the time due to him bringing the ball up, thats when he dominates. He can’t do it against Marion, who has outplayed Lebron thus far the entire series. Chosen One? Please.

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 1:52 pm

There was a play where Jason Kidd was on him an cut off the driving lane and he passed off. Whatever happened to shooting over a guy, Kidd is 6’4″ at best. I guarantee you I get some polykinetic reason why James didn’t take advantage of that matchup.

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 8, 2011 3:08 pm

Oh suck a nut Ron you sound like sucha dummy, remembering bad plays bron bron made now hes not one of the best in the league bc of a bad game? Your a hater to the max, when he comes out next game n drops 30 or more i dont wanna hear anything hater

RonGlover
June 8, 2011 3:41 pm

You sound like a bitch in its highest form, “Bron-Bron” WTF he isn’t above reproach. “Name calling of “Bron-Bron” isn’t called for” man grow a pair and put some base in your voice, I laid off you for a couple of days cause you had your legs up in the air for Plaxico now Ima turn this up a notch cause now you’re starting to come off like a real man bitch. First time someone doesn’t agree with you wanna go to namecalling or somebody’s a hater F that, what do u have invested in Lebron other than a wet dream…nothing FOH Clown!

RealTalk777
RealTalk777
June 8, 2011 4:19 pm

LMAO!!

paulman
paulman
June 8, 2011 4:20 pm

Lebron has been a big disappointment thuse far in the NBA Finals
Anyone with any Baskeball IQ can see this..
Top Performers for the NBA Final Series so far

#1) Dwayne Wade (the Series MVP)
#2) Dirk Nowitzki (the 2nd best player of the Series)
#3) Chris Bosh (has been very consistent through-out the Playoffs)
#4) Tyson Chadler (brings rebounding and physical nature,points are bonus)
#5) Jason Terry (brounght energy and turned the game arouns in the 4th)
#6) Lebron James (Has disappointed,seems unfocused and out of rhythm)

Jon Hart
Jon Hart
June 8, 2011 4:32 pm

Wah wah wah why dont you pull your skirt down hoe bag, you have this hatred for Bron Bron and its starting to sound juvenile. You have no logic behind your comments you just wait until he has a bad game to say stupid stuff like “did you see the way he walked away after he shot the ball in the 3rd quarter”… stupid stuff like that… cmon, give it a break the guy had a bad game big deal… Hes one of the driving forces behind them being in the finals, cmon man i ll run circles around you, you need to stick to writing those lil articles you do for the site before i take your job bum